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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Apparently Mediawiki is :&nbsp; &#8220;</span><span lang=EN>almost
accessible for blind users&#8221;</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Mediawiki_and_Accessibility">http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Mediawiki_and_Accessibility</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The main issue I believe centres around the use of
Captcha.&nbsp; The one I integrated does not use the visual verification
method, but asks the user to solve a simple maths problem.&nbsp; I would assume
that a screen reader could read this, but I have not tested it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair
McNaught<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 21:09<br>
<b>To:</b> Julian Tenney; ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk; Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just catching up with this thread. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree that a collaborative area for creating support materials
is a great idea but I think we ought to exercise some caution before making any
single place the centre of the universe </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My main concerns are<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Vandalism /spamming etc. We love Xerte but if I was a commercial
developer making a tidy income from selling overpriced underfeatured software I
might not love the threat Xerte provided to my income. I suggest that some sort
of &#8216;trusted status&#8217; should be applied for access to the main
support materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Horses for courses &#8211; MediaWiki is fine and dandy for
coders but if we wanted to set up an area where teaching practitioners could
share ideas, applications, examples, simple questions etc we&#8217;d need a
much simpler system. I&#8217;m an experienced Tiddlywiki user but looking at
the help pages on formatting and conventions made me think&#8230; I can&#8217;t
be bothered&#8230; I haven&#8217;t got time to remember some obscure code convention
for placing an image on the page or italicising text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Accessibility &#8211; it would be embarrassing if the much
vaunted (by us at any rate) accessibility features of Xerte were documented on
an inaccessible wiki page. I&#8217;ve not yet had a chance to get a
screenreader user to test the page but I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to push
this out before having done so. There are 14 tests for assessing the
accessibility of web2 services (see <a href="http://www.web2access.org.uk">www.web2access.org.uk</a>)
and I&#8217;d want to be sure we could meet most of them before putting my name
to a Xerte centre of the universe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Certainly the wiki could be invaluable at putting together the <b>specifications
</b>for training and support materials &#8211; and it may well be appropriate
for <b>hosting</b> the materials themselves but I think there needs to be
rather more debate on the matter and this might be the sort of thing that is
thrashed out in relation to the XPERT project meeting in May.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Alistair<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Julian Tenney
[mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 12:22<br>
<b>To:</b> ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk; Alistair McNaught<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think we should concentrate on making wiki.xerte.net the
centre of the known universe. We need all the documentation &#8211; from us,
from the xpert project, from other contributers to live in one place where it
can easily be updated and maintained. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Apologies if this comes
through twice but I sent this at 10.40 this morning and it hasn&#8217;t
appeared on the list yet. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Apologies for not responding
sooner &#8211; was delivering Toolkits training all day yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When we were discussing the
use of a wiki off-list recently I was thinking that would be for developing the
spec for the support material rather than the actual support material. But as
has been suggested subsequently an installation of MediaWiki might do both <a
href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki</a>
as an example a lot of the moodle documentation is provided via MediaWiki <a
href="http://docs.moodle.org/en/Main_Page">http://docs.moodle.org/en/Main_Page</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I did quite a bit on <a
href="http://www.installationwiki.org">www.installationwiki.org</a> re toolkits
guidance, and then some spammer wrecked it and all my work got deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;ll see what I can
do&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:38<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I made an account as well, but
my inner pedant says Captcha?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 09:44<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jules<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think people can simply
create their own accounts??<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyone an expert on media
wiki on the list??<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2009 21:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think there needs to be
documentation for people developing the software, and documentation for people
using the software. It could be in the same place, or in different places as
the two groups will have quite different requirements. Googlecode happened to
have a convenient wiki which is what Pat has started to use today. Sourceforge
have also just approved my project request, so now is a good time for us to
decide google code or sourceforge once and for all. I might set up a project on
soirceforge anyway adn then we can vote or something.&nbsp;You can see the
google code pages already. I like the simplicity a lot - it fits well with our
FWS design principles for the software itself.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mark - how would we add users to the wiki you
set up? That (or something similar) should probably host the bulk of the user docs,
and be the one place for info on using Xerte in its various forms. I would love
it if someone were to step forward and take on managing that space.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We have several people primed to start
creating documentation and I'm keen it doesn't become fragmented. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Alistair and Ron: would a wiki meet your
needs? wiki.xerte.net in particular. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>J</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 27/04/2009 19:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>10 repositories.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1 for those that speak binary, 1 for those
that don't - or grom my take so far on the installs of XOT, we have the
sysadmin types who would want the scope to do whatever they wanted, and the
dabblers who want something a little more light.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 27/04/2009 17:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>
Totally your call, but I'm not sure about the facility of splitting
locations...<br>
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<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
&gt; Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:09:40 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Patrick.Lockley@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Can do both - I see the google one as the trouble shooter<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark<br>
&gt; Tomlinson<br>
&gt; Sent: 27 April 2009 17:06<br>
&gt; To: 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I spoke to Julian about this a while back and I did set one up then on:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; http://wiki.xerte.net<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I never got round to publicising it though :-(<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Mark<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick<br>
&gt; Lockley<br>
&gt; Sent: 27 April 2009 17:01<br>
&gt; To: Xerte discussion list<br>
&gt; Subject: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; http://code.google.com/p/xerte/w/list<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Your wish is our command, if your wishes are based primarily on wikis<br>
&gt; that is :)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Patrick Lockley<br>
&gt; IS Learning Team<br>
&gt; King's Meadow Campus<br>
&gt; Tel: 0115 84 68882<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My Page on Community - http://webapps.nottingham.ac.uk/elgg/cczpl<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Xerte mailing list<br>
&gt; Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Xerte mailing list<br>
&gt; Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Xerte mailing list<br>
&gt; Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
&gt; http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the
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