<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks Julian - I wasn't actually expecting you chaps to do it, as I have some coders here who could be usefully engaged in doing the necessary... however, what I am hearing is that it really isn't worthwhile and the gains for doing it will likely be small. What I suspect we will do is provide two versions of the object, should it be required... concentrating on the Xerte version for the full user experience, and a much more simple version using Javascript for the compatibility with the client's end browser capability.<div><br></div><div>I'd still like a sample file to explore which uses some of the interactivity icon tools without too much scripting ... is there anything like that available?<br><div><br></div><div>Hal<br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">--</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Hal MacLean</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Director of Learning</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">+44 (0)7957 538915</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><a href="http://www.cleveratom.co.uk">www.cleveratom.co.uk</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">+44 (0)845 868 9020</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Cleveratom Limited, </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Fenchurch House, </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">93 Springfield Road, Chelmsford,</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Essex, CM2 6JL.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">__________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Cleveratom Limited is a company registered</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">in England and Wales with company </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">number 6008130. Registered address is </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Shalford Court, 95 Springfield Road </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">Chelmsford, CM2 6JL.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5">__________________________________</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#7075A5"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8086BC"></font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 16 Mar 2009, at 16:07, Julian Tenney wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The best way to tackle it would be to have an HTML player for Page Templates .xml, and recreate a kind of native html based engine to parse it, but that would be hard enough to do. Having *any* xerte file fall over gracefully to html is a huge undertaking, and not one we are going to do.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The best I’d go for is some graceful error message if there is no Flash player,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 16, 2009 4:03 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Xerte] custom interfacy<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">>All in all Xerte looks to be extremely good, but I'd think could be improved by also providing an interface that doesn't rely on FLash - it'll not be as good looking, but may reach the elusive 2% :-)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hal<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br>It doesn't seem we are talking strictly about disabled user accessibility here. Flash is and continues to make gains in that area.<br><br>Unless I'm reading you wrong, it's really users who are not allowed to install Flash.<br><br>While I can empathize with your situation, adding that functionality to Xerte would be truly a "labour of love".<br><br>Dave<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br><br><br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009" target="_new" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Check it out.</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Xerte mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>