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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have a dilemna here I’d like the community’s input on. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I spent yesterday investigating some of these problems with
google maps and kml and discovered the component we use is no longer supported
by the people who wrote it, as google have released their own maps API for Flash.
From what I can tell, google are insisting that their API is the only permitted
method to access their mapping data. The problem is, it is only available as an
AS3.0 version, and so I can’t integrate it into toolkits in the same way as the
current component.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t really want to try and support an unsupported component,
and think we should probably not continue to use it in toolkits – so, what to
do?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Options:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Do nothing. Keep using the current solution and cross our
fingers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yahoo make an AS2.0 component for their mapping that I could use,
but it is also no longer supported by Yahoo. However, it is probably a better
solution than the existing one in that the component will probably continue to
work for some time. The drawback with the Yahoo solution is, basically, I think
people like google maps, and it doesn’t support kml. Rather it supports something
called geoRSS for overalying data onto your maps. I couldn’t get it to work
yesterday when I tried with geoRSS from a google map.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Open a new window from Xerte with the map in it. So perhaps we
have a clickable static map, that when clicked throws open a new window with
the interactive map in it. This window could directly contain a maps.google.com
map – you create a map at mymaps, and use the link as the url for the clickable
static map. The popup window contains the map itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Create an AS3.0 solution for the new window. This is basically
the same as the last one, but we would have control over the sort of
functionality the swf performed – i.e. nice looking interface, layers you can
toggle on and off, etc. This would take the most time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’d like to keep support for some sort of mapping solution
because I think it is sufficiently useful / interesting. I also don’t want to
re-create complex mapping tools for creating / annotating maps. I think google
maps is where the momentum is, and is my preferred option I think. I’d like to
settle on a solution before we release v1.0 of toolkits, which is quite close
now,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tyler Clair<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] Google Maps KML problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>I have the newest version (2.5). I followed the
directions Julian gave me and still nothing. They were a little different like
having to go to insert > misc > google map but i don't see how that would
be a problem.<br>
<br>
I have been looking at the actual KML files and they are completely different.
I took the Google Map KML and imported it into Google Earth then exported one
of the placemarkers and I noticed that there is not any Lat or Lon references
just coordinates:<br>
<br>
Created in Google Earth<br>
<Placemark><br>
<name>W
Wisconsin Ave &amp; N Plankinton Ave</name><br>
<LookAt><br>
<longitude>-87.91060997694737</longitude><br>
<latitude>43.03866589851576</latitude><br>
<altitude>0</altitude><br>
<range>182.6580423814871</range><br>
<tilt>0</tilt><br>
<heading>0.04980345284858622</heading><br>
<altitudeMode>relativeToGround</altitudeMode><br>
</LookAt><br>
<styleUrl>#msn_palette-30</styleUrl><br>
<Point><br>
<coordinates>-87.91058050017033,43.03879047695281,0</coordinates><br>
</Point><br>
</Placemark><br>
<br>
Created in Google Maps imported to Google Earth then exported as KML:<br>
<br>
<Placemark><br>
<name>W Wisconsin Ave &amp; N
Plankinton Ave</name><br>
<description>Originaly Grand Ave
and West Water St.<br>
Detective Peter Schmidt and Detective William McManus apprehended Frank and
Oscar on the corner of Grand Ave. and West Water St. Frank almost killed
McManus but his gun misfired and was wrestled to the ground.</description><br>
<styleUrl>#sn_blue-dot</styleUrl><br>
<Point><br>
<coordinates>-87.91120100000001,43.038757,0</coordinates><br>
</Point><br>
</Placemark><br>
The KML file from Google maps just links to the map and doesn't contain any
data.<br>
I have tried this on several computers with the newest version of Xerte and
still no luck, I can take the KML file contents and paste it into this
site: <a href="http://display-kml.appspot.com/" target="_blank">Display
KML on a Google Map</a> and they display fine.<br>
<br>
I have attached the xterte project if you would like to look at it as well.<br>
<br>
If I recreate the map in Google Earth everything displays just fine, its just
very odd to me that it works straight from Google maps for Julian but not for
me. is there a setting I'm missing?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tyler<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:29 AM,
Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Each
of those examples contains a single point, somewhere in Milwaukee.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Both
of them work for me. So we know we’re all running the same code, can you
install the latest Xerte and then follow these steps:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Open
Xerte</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Templates
-> Page Templates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Insert
-> Google Map</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Add
new KML layer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Browse
for and select the KML file – either of the ones you sent work</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Run
the piece</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Navigate
in the map so you can see Milwaukee.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It
works?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tyler Clair<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] Google Maps KML problem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:72.0pt'>Hi Patrick,<br>
<br>
I've attached the two files.<br>
<br>
I hope this doesn't scrub the attachments.<br>
<br>
Thank you so much! Ive been playing around with this for about a day and a half
and I and the hand full of instructors I have showed this to are very impressed
and excited with the features.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Patrick Lockley
<<a href="mailto:Patrick.Lockley@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Patrick.Lockley@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi
Tyler, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Could you send the
KML layers? Or let us know where we could find them?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Pat</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> on behalf of Tyler
Clair<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thu 05/03/2009 22:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Google Maps KML problem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Hello,<br>
<br>
I have been trying to create a google map page by using a KML file from a
google map I created. If I create a map in Google Earth the KML file displays
just fine but if I get the KML file from google maps nothing shows up. I have
even tried taking the KML file and importing it into Google Earth then saving
it as a different KML file but still nothing gets displayed. I just dont
understand why it would be different.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Tyler<o:p></o:p></p>
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