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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Exactly right mate&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>OK, must get back to our aircraft first
officer training course that is SCORM deployed &nbsp;&nbsp;:-O&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>p.s. No, I am not joking&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 December 2008 11:24<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Xerte
 discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Xerte] Quiz Security</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Like I said, if
passing the test puts you in control of an aircraft acrrier or nuclear power
station, then don&#8217;t use Xerte. In fact, don&#8217;t use computers. Even
if the system is secure (and very few are truly) then unless you can see who is
doing the test, how do you know the student isn&#8217;t cheating? How do you
know it&#8217;s the student you think it is? How do you know they are not
sitting there looking up the answers on aircraftcarrierexams.com?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Tomlinson, AC&amp;S Ltd<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 10, 2008
11:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Xerte
 discussion list</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Xerte] Quiz Security<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To be
quite frank, SCORM itself is not secure at all, never mind the eLearning tool.
&nbsp;I was shown at EeLS an html / javascript file that allows a user to set
what they want in the LMS while their course is running&#8230;. &nbsp;You want
a 100% pass&#8230;No problem, click a button!&nbsp; You want to show
&#8216;completed&#8217;&#8230;.. No problem, click a button!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 December 2008 11:02<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Xerte
 discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Xerte] Quiz Security</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
think it probably depends on what&#8217;s at stake. If passing the exam means a
huge payrise, then students have a big incentive to try and cheat. If the test
is simply a formative test to give them feedback on their learning, then you
could argue that, as long as the students get the feedback, they are continuing
to learn.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If
the test is high stakes, then Xerte probably isn&#8217;t the tool for the job.
Students would have to try quite hard, and be reasonaly tech-savvy, but they
could get at the data if they really wanted to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Leonardi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 10, 2008
5:13 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Xerte
 discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Xerte] Quiz Security<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello all, i'm new in
e-learning and scorm things... :)<br>
<br>
I have a question, if i create a scorm web based quiz using xerte does it
secure? Can the students somehow cheating and obtain the answer?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
Leonardi - <br>
<a href="http://dodollipret.wordpress.com">dodollipret.wordpress.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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