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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the swf is just the sound file yes, but if the swf takes two movements, I think it can't.</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of jventola@verizon.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Fri 11/07/2008 19:50<BR><B>To:</B> Xerte discussion list<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Xerte] Using swf sound files and problem with drag and drop<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Thanks, Pat. That is helpful to know.<BR><BR>Does that mean there is no way to play that swf sound? Or that I could do this if I knew<BR>actioncript and eliminated the container and played it directly?<BR><BR>The file size difference between the mp3 and swf audio is truly amazing. I have one mp3 of<BR>22,668,200 bytes that becomes 4,268,606 bytes when converted. Since this is just for voice,<BR>any quality loss is inaudible, at least to my aging ears. So being able to load and play these<BR>would be good. <BR><BR>As it is, with the huge hard drives of today, it is not such an issue although I think I am<BR>limited in how much I can upload to my WebCT account. On the WebCT forum, I was told<BR>that WebCT is not meant for audio streaming! And years ago a 20 dollar program (Wicked<BR>Streaming Program) handled progressive download easily! With Xerte and SCORM, I can<BR>overcome WebCT's limitation, I think.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Date sent: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:46:43 +0100<BR>From: "Lockley Patrick" <Patrick.Lockley@nottingham.ac.uk><BR>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using swf sound files and problem with drag and drop<BR>To: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><BR>Send reply to: Xerte discussion list <xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><BR><BR>> Hello,<BR>><BR>> I can't answer the drag and drop question (though you are right about<BR>> application interface).<BR>><BR>> As for the swf streaming, Xerte will not handle any swf that uses some<BR>> preloader or container (we've tried bringing in swfs from other products<BR>> before).<BR>><BR>> Xerte detects the size of the container swf (which is usually very<BR>> small) and because it doesn't know there is a second swf on its way it<BR>> never resizes.<BR>><BR>> Hope this helps.<BR>><BR>> Pat<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> [<A href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</A>] On Behalf Of<BR>> jventola@verizon.net<BR>> Sent: 11 July 2008 00:02<BR>> To: Xerte discussion list<BR>> Subject: [Xerte] Using swf sound files and problem with drag and drop<BR>><BR>> Hi Julian,<BR>><BR>> Thanks. I will start using IE more for WebCT. I had already noticed<BR>> that the java HTML editor works better there.<BR>><BR>> I tried setting the streaming to 1, works great.<BR>><BR>> As for progressive download, I have an old program called Wicked<BR>> Streaming Program. <BR>> This takes an .mp3 or .wav file and converts it to an audio .swf (with<BR>> amazing compression) and adds a controller and an html page. You can use<BR>> dialup and still get good sound with very little latency. So far, no<BR>> success using this in Xerte I tried putting the sound and the controller<BR>> swfs in the project folder and inserting the controller swf as a<BR>> graphic. The controller shows up, but the it does not play the file even<BR>> though they are in the same folder.<BR>> Looks like it is not finding the file. Maybe I would have to use<BR>> script. But mp3 works fine now--just with hugely bigger files.<BR>><BR>> I am also having trouble reliably loading soundfiles into Xerte. The<BR>> startup tip says to just<BR>> select the page and drag the sound file into the "application window."<BR>> (No mention of<BR>> "application window" in the docs but I assume it means the Xerte<BR>> interface as a whole.)<BR>><BR>> Sometimes it seems I CAN drag an mp3 or graphics file in. Not today.<BR>> Nothing I try seems to work. But the Import Media item does work. Any<BR>> idea why drag and drop doesn't always work?<BR>><BR>> Date sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:12:25 +0100<BR>> From: "Tenney Julian" <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk><BR>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] RE: WebCT CE6 says "no content"<BR>> error but module runs<BR>> To: "Xerte discussion list"<BR>> <xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><BR>> Send reply to: Xerte discussion list<BR>> <xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><BR>><BR>> > I always use IE for WebCT. It has never worked well with FF in my<BR>> > experience.<BR>> ><BR>> > You can set the streaming property on sound icons to 1 - then the<BR>> > sound will start playing before the file has downloaded. It's not true<BR>><BR>> > streaming though - it's progressive download.<BR>> ><BR>> > You can load swfs into Xerte using the graphic icon or the component<BR>> > icon, depending on your needs. You can load up Flash files that do<BR>> > pretty much anything Flash can do (compiled for AS2, FP8).<BR>> ><BR>> > I am indeed a banjo player. I play old-time American folk, clawhammer<BR>> > style.<BR>> ><BR>> > J<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> > [<A href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</A>] On Behalf Of<BR>> > jventola@verizon.net<BR>> > Sent: 09 July 2008 20:18<BR>> > To: Xerte discussion list<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Xerte] RE: WebCT CE6 says "no content" error but module<BR>> > runs<BR>> ><BR>> > Hi Juliean.<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> > > Are you subscribed to the mailing list? Your message bounced, which<BR>> > > is<BR>> ><BR>> > > usually because you're not subscribed, or you are posting to the<BR>> > > list from a different address to the one you signed up with.<BR>> ><BR>> > That was it. I am using the right address now, I hope.<BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Let's be sure ..... Now right click the link you've created and<BR>> > > click preview.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Any better?<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes.<BR>> ><BR>> > What happened was that in Firefox 3, WebCT loaded the wrong file or<BR>> > misnamed it. My SCORM package was "xerte-test.zip" and it took a long<BR>><BR>> > time loading, as expected, but when I went to SAVE it within the CE6<BR>> > Create Scorm page, I noticed that instead of the zip file, it was<BR>> > showing an .swf file from my CE6 storage. I think the Java file<BR>> > requestor is munged. I tried in IE, and it worked fine. Is there a<BR>> > known problem with Firefox<BR>> > 3? Since the update<BR>> > t0 Firefox3, WebCT tests my browser each time, and complains..<BR>> ><BR>> > Another quetion: I notice that the mp3 has to load when I run the<BR>> > module in CE6. Is there a way to make it stream? Alternatively,<BR>> > could I load an swf version of the audio and a player?<BR>> > How?<BR>> ><BR>> > I know a little bit about Flash from using Kool Moves, which I found<BR>> > easier than Flash to come to grips with. So I was really excited to<BR>> > find Xerte, which seems to be Flash centric. I wonder if other Xerte<BR>> > also use Kool Moves.<BR>> ><BR>> > BTW are you a banjo player? I play English concertina and traverso.<BR>> > Love it.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > From: Jim Ventola [<A href="mailto:jimventola@gmail.com">mailto:jimventola@gmail.com</A>]<BR>> > > Sent: 09 July 2008 06:11<BR>> > > To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> > > Subject: WebCT CE6 says "no content" error but module runs<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > First, Xerte is really cool.<BR>> > > I made a module with text and an embedded mp3 and published to Scorm<BR>><BR>> > > 1.2. I impoted to WebCT CE6. When I run it, WebCT complains that "My<BR>><BR>> > > Learning Object" has no content. But it shows the link and clicking<BR>> > > it<BR>> ><BR>> > > runs the module. How do I fix this? Is it a problem with my tree<BR>> > structure?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Thanks.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > --<BR>> > > Cordially,<BR>> > > Jim<BR>> > > No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>> > > Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/">http://www.avg.com</A><BR>> > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date:<BR>> > > 7/9/2008 6:50 AM<BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Xerte mailing list<BR>> > Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> > <A href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</A><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Xerte mailing list<BR>> > Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> > <A href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</A><BR>> ><BR>> > No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>> > Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/">http://www.avg.com</A><BR>> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1544 - Release Date:<BR>> > 7/10/2008 7:37 AM<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Xerte mailing list<BR>> Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> <A href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</A><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Xerte mailing list<BR>> Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR>> <A href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</A><BR>><BR>> No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>> Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/">http://www.avg.com</A><BR>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 7/11/2008 6:47 AM<BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Xerte mailing list<BR>Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<BR><A href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte</A><BR></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>