[Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Fri Mar 13 09:57:27 GMT 2015


Depends what you deprecate... if you just don't allow adding then yes any editing of that page type will allow the extra tags to be put in but if you disallow adding and editing then what comes in from the legacy page should just be written back out...

But I think it would be better to just make them work... there are a few models where the introduction of html screws the parsing of the data up, similarly with carriage returns so they are going to need worked on anyway and solutions to those may indeed fix the others... for example we replace all carriage returns with <br /> but within a section of html or script we shouldn't otherwise it screws up the formatting of the page or processing of the script...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor

If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects.

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor

Hi John
overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one.

Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on <p> tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. <build></build> and change the model so that it builds based on that tag?

We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page.

Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-)
http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor

Hi Ron,

The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault...

What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to <p> tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

<table>
<tr><td>...
<tr><td>... etc

You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as

<table><tr><td>...</td><td>...</td><td>...</td><td>...</td> etc...

These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them...

If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA

Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible.
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03
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Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor

Hi all
a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick?

I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

Cheers
Ron




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