From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 22:18:43 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 23:18:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Problems displaying images Message-ID: <54F784C3.40207@gmail.com> A bunch of hopefully not too stupid questions. I'm running XOT 2.1 (update) on a Debian server. The xerte site is accessed through https. De URL in the database table sitedetails in the MySQL database is changed to https://... The ownership of all the files of the xerte installation is set to the Apache user. The authorization to the xerte site is done through Db. I create a new project. I create a Tabbed Navigator object. I add an image to this object. If I try to upload the image I get an error : "Upload failed: IOerror" I can upload the image through the project properties (Media and quota) e.g. an image with the name "grootte_schakel.png" I enter the following in the entry field of the image in the Tabbed Navigator object media/grootte_schakel.png I can see a preview of this image when I press the preview button. When I press the Play button the Tabbed Navigator object is not shown. If I do an "Export (Get Deployment Zip)" and open this in a browser the object is not shown either. When I remove the image the object is shown. Can anyone point me into the right direction to solve this problem ? In the database table sitedetails I see a field with the name "Apache". The contents of this field is "false". When I change this to "true" I get an error saying "preview2.php" is not available. What is the purpose of this field "Apache" ? Thank you very much in advance. Best regards, John Bijnens From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 23:01:31 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:01:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Problems displaying images Message-ID: <54F78ECB.8060201@gmail.com> > In the database table sitedetails I see a field with the name "Apache". > The contents of this field is "false". > When I change this to "true" I get an error saying "preview2.php" is not available. > What is the purpose of this field "Apache" ? I just discovered this is used to enable/disable the use of .htaccess. Best regards, John Bijnens From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 5 08:51:06 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 08:51:06 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problems displaying images In-Reply-To: <54F784C3.40207@gmail.com> References: <54F784C3.40207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ac01d05721$863e46f0$92bad4d0$@co.uk> Does a normal graphics and sound page work in terms of uploading and displaying images? I suspect not and you really need to resolve why uploading an image via the editor rather than media and quota isn't working. Directory permissions on USER-FILES. Also what browser? Does it work with a different browser? But anyway if you believe the image is uploaded correctly via media and quota try FileLocation + 'media/grootte_schakel.png' That's what the editot would store as the path. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 04 March 2015 22:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Problems displaying images A bunch of hopefully not too stupid questions. I'm running XOT 2.1 (update) on a Debian server. The xerte site is accessed through https. De URL in the database table sitedetails in the MySQL database is changed to https://... The ownership of all the files of the xerte installation is set to the Apache user. The authorization to the xerte site is done through Db. I create a new project. I create a Tabbed Navigator object. I add an image to this object. If I try to upload the image I get an error : "Upload failed: IOerror" I can upload the image through the project properties (Media and quota) e.g. an image with the name "grootte_schakel.png" I enter the following in the entry field of the image in the Tabbed Navigator object media/grootte_schakel.png I can see a preview of this image when I press the preview button. When I press the Play button the Tabbed Navigator object is not shown. If I do an "Export (Get Deployment Zip)" and open this in a browser the object is not shown either. When I remove the image the object is shown. Can anyone point me into the right direction to solve this problem ? In the database table sitedetails I see a field with the name "Apache". The contents of this field is "false". When I change this to "true" I get an error saying "preview2.php" is not available. What is the purpose of this field "Apache" ? Thank you very much in advance. Best regards, John Bijnens _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 10:16:59 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 11:16:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problems displaying images In-Reply-To: <00ac01d05721$863e46f0$92bad4d0$@co.uk> References: <54F784C3.40207@gmail.com> <00ac01d05721$863e46f0$92bad4d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <54F82D1B.3030909@gmail.com> Hi Ron, Thank you VERY MUCH for your reply. Uploading and displaying images by using a normal "graphics and sound" page doesn't work either. The permissions on USER-FILES and underlying folders/files are * USER-FILES : 755 (or rwxr-xr-x) * 2-name-Nottingham : 777 (or rwxrwxrwx) * 2-name-Nottingham /data.xml : 644 (or rw-r--r--) * 2-name-Nottingham /media : 755 (or rwxr-xr-x) * 2-name-Nottingham /preview.xml : 777 (or rwxrwxrwx) * 2-name-Nottingham /media/grootte_schakel.png : 644 (or rw-r--r--) I have tried FireFox 36.0 (on both Windows 7 SP1 and Linux Mint 17.1) and InternetExplorer 11. It doesn't work. I have just tested it with Google Chrome 40.x and surprisingly enough that does work without any flaws. This rules out any misconfiguration of the server. So my guess is that there is some JavaScript code that is specifically targeted to Google Chrome and doesn't work on other browsers. The workaround you suggested with FileLocation + 'media/grootte_schakel.png' works also. Thanks again for the fast reply and the solution for the problem. I couldn't have found the solution "FileLocation + ...." without a thorough (and much time consuming) investigation of the source code. I have asked the same question on the Xerte Forum. I will crosspost this answer to the Forum so other people can find the solution to this problem through the forum also. Best regards, John Bijnens On 5/03/2015 9:51, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Does a normal graphics and sound page work in terms of uploading and > displaying images? > I suspect not and you really need to resolve why uploading an image via the > editor rather than media and quota isn't working. Directory permissions on > USER-FILES. > Also what browser? Does it work with a different browser? > But anyway if you believe the image is uploaded correctly via media and > quota try > FileLocation + 'media/grootte_schakel.png' > That's what the editot would store as the path. > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens > Sent: 04 March 2015 22:19 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Problems displaying images > > A bunch of hopefully not too stupid questions. > > I'm running XOT 2.1 (update) on a Debian server. > The xerte site is accessed through https. > De URL in the database table sitedetails in the MySQL database is changed to > https://... > The ownership of all the files of the xerte installation is set to the > Apache user. > The authorization to the xerte site is done through Db. > > I create a new project. > I create a Tabbed Navigator object. > I add an image to this object. > If I try to upload the image I get an error : "Upload failed: IOerror" > I can upload the image through the project properties (Media and quota) e.g. > an image with the name "grootte_schakel.png" > I enter the following in the entry field of the image in the Tabbed > Navigator object > media/grootte_schakel.png > I can see a preview of this image when I press the preview button. > When I press the Play button the Tabbed Navigator object is not shown. > If I do an "Export (Get Deployment Zip)" and open this in a browser the > object is not shown either. > When I remove the image the object is shown. > > Can anyone point me into the right direction to solve this problem ? > > In the database table sitedetails I see a field with the name "Apache". > The contents of this field is "false". > When I change this to "true" I get an error saying "preview2.php" is not > available. > What is the purpose of this field "Apache" ? > > Thank you very much in advance. > > Best regards, > > John Bijnens > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 March 2015 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] Flashless Animation We've had a request to create some materials like this: animation of atoms / particles and so on. http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/diffusion/index.php I don't want to use Flash particularly, but I could do if necessary and export movies to play; any alternatives to Flash for this sort of thing? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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I'd prefer to use something open if I can, and even if I were using Flash, I'd prefer to do some of it with code, rather than endless nested timelines, and actionscript doesn't export to a movie? I was just wondering how others are doing this sort of thing these days. We do get these bespoke animation type requests from time to time From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 March 2015 13:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation Just wondering if the current/quickest workflow is to use Flash you could use Flash to create the animations then record the small clips to either video or animated gif and then build the sequencing in Xerte. Perhaps even using Fay's new Media Lesson page. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 March 2015 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] Flashless Animation We've had a request to create some materials like this: animation of atoms / particles and so on. http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/diffusion/index.php I don't want to use Flash particularly, but I could do if necessary and export movies to play; any alternatives to Flash for this sort of thing? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From John.Horton at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Mar 10 15:20:22 2015 From: John.Horton at nottingham.ac.uk (John Horton) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:20:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7784796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7784735@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009301d05b34$e0d1b090$a27511b0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7784796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Several (perhaps all) of the simulations at the URL quoted have sliders to control the parameters of the physical situation being simulated. A lot of pedagogical benefit lies in these - at least, it does for those students prepared to use them and think hard about what they're observing. This means the simulations almost certainly have to be written with code. I've started to wonder how much things like Mathematica can be used for this sort of demonstration. Although I've never used Mathematica, I presume it can produce the simulation and animation; also the sliders. This http://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/IntroductionToManipulate.html seems to demonstrate the sort of controls we're interested in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 March 2015 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation I've been thinking down the same lines, though for simple, abstract stuff, some of the js libraries might be sufficient? I'd prefer to use something open if I can, and even if I were using Flash, I'd prefer to do some of it with code, rather than endless nested timelines, and actionscript doesn't export to a movie? I was just wondering how others are doing this sort of thing these days. We do get these bespoke animation type requests from time to time From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 March 2015 13:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation Just wondering if the current/quickest workflow is to use Flash you could use Flash to create the animations then record the small clips to either video or animated gif and then build the sequencing in Xerte. Perhaps even using Fay's new Media Lesson page. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 March 2015 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] Flashless Animation We've had a request to create some materials like this: animation of atoms / particles and so on. http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/diffusion/index.php I don't want to use Flash particularly, but I could do if necessary and export movies to play; any alternatives to Flash for this sort of thing? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From brsmith at akamai.com Tue Mar 10 16:25:30 2015 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:25:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7784735@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009301d05b34$e0d1b090$a27511b0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7784796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1B37C710-19D1-4F73-A296-C2C9461ADACF@akamai.com> I haven?t gotten to use either in depth, but if you?re just looking for a way to create animations that doesn?t require Flash, there are a couple of tools I?ve been meaning to mess around with: http://www.synfig.org/cms/ (according to the docs, it can export animated gif, mpg movies, and more) http://antimatter15.com/ajaxanimator/wave/ (can export to animated gif or (it claims) flash, but doesn?t seem to be actively maintained. However, it?s web-based and open-source, so?) ?Brad On Mar 10, 2015, at 11:20 AM, John Horton wrote: > Several (perhaps all) of the simulations at the URL quoted have sliders to control the parameters of the physical situation being simulated. A lot of pedagogical benefit lies in these ? at least, it does for those students prepared to use them and think hard about what they?re observing. This means the simulations almost certainly have to be written with code. > > I?ve started to wonder how much things like Mathematica can be used for this sort of demonstration. Although I?ve never used Mathematica, I presume it can produce the simulation and animation; also the sliders. > > This > > http://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/IntroductionToManipulate.html > > seems to demonstrate the sort of controls we?re interested in. > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 March 2015 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation > > I?ve been thinking down the same lines, though for simple, abstract stuff, some of the js libraries might be sufficient? I?d prefer to use something open if I can, and even if I were using Flash, I?d prefer to do some of it with code, rather than endless nested timelines, and actionscript doesn?t export to a movie? > > I was just wondering how others are doing this sort of thing these days. We do get these bespoke animation type requests from time to time > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 March 2015 13:20 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flashless Animation > > Just wondering if the current/quickest workflow is to use Flash you could use Flash to create the animations then record the small clips to either video or animated gif and then build the sequencing in Xerte. Perhaps even using Fay's new Media Lesson page. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 10 March 2015 12:41 > To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > Subject: [Xerte] Flashless Animation > > We?ve had a request to create some materials like this: animation of atoms / particles and so on. > http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/diffusion/index.php > > I don?t want to use Flash particularly, but I could do if necessary and export movies to play; any alternatives to Flash for this sort of thing? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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Digital Teacher-Super Tech On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Just wondering if the current/quickest workflow is to use Flash you could > use Flash to create the animations then record the small clips to either > video or animated gif and then build the sequencing in Xerte. Perhaps even > using Fay's new Media Lesson page. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 10 March 2015 12:41 > *To:* Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte] Flashless Animation > > > > We?ve had a request to create some materials like this: animation of atoms > / particles and so on. > > http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/diffusion/index.php > > > > I don?t want to use Flash particularly, but I could do if necessary and > export movies to play; any alternatives to Flash for this sort of thing? > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 10:54:01 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:54:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 11:01:11 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:01:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB3.D978FA30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I?m not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB3.D978FA30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying ?The project data has not loaded.? This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I?m happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn?t matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I?m working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 11:16:22 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:16:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB5.799BBD30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB6.2E41C590] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 71262 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 11:32:41 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:32:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image003.png at 01D05CB7.C56670A0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image004.png at 01D05CB7.C56670A0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB8.6B8831D0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image004.png at 01D05CB8.6B8831D0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB9.A9378E80] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CB9.A9378E80] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB9.CF63BE30] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CB9.CF63BE30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 71262 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 11:49:37 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:49:37 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007e01d05cba$9edde8c0$dc99ba40$@co.uk> This is down to browser security. Firefox should work though? Are the videos .mp4? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: <007e01d05cba$9edde8c0$dc99ba40$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01d05cba$9edde8c0$dc99ba40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2B@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> The videos are .mp4 Only first two videos selected will play though - whichever ones are selected first. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 11:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. This is down to browser security. Firefox should work though? Are the videos .mp4? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.0CAA6E00] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.0CAA6E00] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.17E0C2B0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.17E0C2B0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 76969 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 71262 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 11:53:56 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:53:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.3838CA30] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.3838CA30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 76969 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 71262 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 11:55:03 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:55:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Loading "local" xml files is considered a security risk... from a server it is lower risk... This will only get worse as Firefox will eventually implement this blocking too which is why we should move to using JSON for data transport... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don?t think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I?ve found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get ?project data has not loaded? in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser ? only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security ?feature?? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They?re fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don?t have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the ?project data has not loaded? message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I?m not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying ?The project data has not loaded.? This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I?m happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn?t matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I?m working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:03:18 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:03:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <55018086.6080503@gmail.com> Hi, I did a quick nameserver lookup. Apparently uwe.ac.uk resolves, but xerte.uwe.ac.uk doesn't. So it seems it is only known to an internal nameserver. What you could try when you on the campus is the following Open a command prompt (cmd.exe) and type nslookup resolves.uwe.ac.uk The result should be an ip-address. Something similar to Enter this ip-address in your browser https://ip-address/ If it isn't blocked at another level than the nameserver and doesn't have a non-routable address you should be able to access it. Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 12:12, Smith, John wrote: > I think your server isn't available outside your network... those LOs don't load... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I?m not sure it is xerte related: > > [cid:image001.png at 01D05CB3.D978FA30] > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying ?The project data has not loaded.? This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. > > I?m happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn?t matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. > > These are the LOs I?m working on: > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Oli > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > . > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gfdighgc.png Type: image/png Size: 1100 bytes Desc: not available URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 12:02:24 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don?t think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I?ve found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get ?project data has not loaded? in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser ? only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security ?feature?? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They?re fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don?t have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the ?project data has not loaded? message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I?m not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying ?The project data has not loaded.? This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I?m happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn?t matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I?m working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:05:43 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:05:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <55018117.4010209@gmail.com> These urls work fine here. Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 12:17, Julian Tenney wrote: > > All looks good to me. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Oliver Haslam > *Sent:* 12 March 2015 11:16 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. > > Can you play the LOs from here instead: > > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm > > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm > > _____________________________ > > Oliver Haslam__ > > Learning Technologist > > Learning Innovation Unit > > Faculty of Environment & Technology > > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > > _____________________________ > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian > Tenney > *Sent:* 12 March 2015 11:01 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I?m not sure it is xerte related: > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Oliver > Haslam > *Sent:* 12 March 2015 10:54 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying ?The project data has not > loaded.? This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. > > I?m happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four > available, it doesn?t matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. > > These are the LOs I?m working on: > > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 > > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Oli > > _____________________________ > > Oliver Haslam__ > > Learning Technologist > > Learning Innovation Unit > > Faculty of Environment & Technology > > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > > _____________________________ > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 71262 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 12:07:15 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:07:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 12:09:13 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:09:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB715E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No. You need to tweak the security setting in the browser. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 12:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:18:49 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:18:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > What xml files do I run through the validator? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? > > I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Is this a browser security 'feature'? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. > > Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: > [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > All looks good to me. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. > > Can you play the LOs from here instead: > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: > > [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. > > I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. > > These are the LOs I'm working on: > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Oli > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 12:30:35 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:30:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301ED05@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks everyone for your help with this. I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > What xml files do I run through the validator? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? > > I've found this very useful on occasion: > http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Is this a browser security 'feature'? > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. > > Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: > [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > All looks good to me. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. > > Can you play the LOs from here instead: > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: > > [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. > > I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. > > These are the LOs I'm working on: > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Oli > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From johnbijnens1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 12:37:42 2015 From: johnbijnens1 at gmail.com (John Bijnens) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:37:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301ED05@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301ED05@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <55018896.7010904@gmail.com> I don't know what platform you're using (Windows, Linux, ...). For Windows you can open a command prompt (cmd.exe) and type the command chrome.exe --disable-web-security Press enter to execute it. If you want to avoid doing this all the time, you can do the following. Place a shortcut to Chrome somewhere on the desktop e.g. Select this shortcut (only one left mouse click), press the right mouse button to get the pop-up menu and select "Properties". You'll see an entryfield "Target". It will show something like "C:\Program Files\....\Chrome.exe" Place the mouse cursor to the end of this line and add --disable-web-security so it will look like "C:\Program Files\....\Chrome.exe" --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:30, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thanks everyone for your help with this. > > I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > You could try something like > > chrome.exe --disable-web-security > > Best regards, > > John Bijnens > > On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... >> >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam >> [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> What xml files do I run through the validator? >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? >> >> I've found this very useful on occasion: >> http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp >> >> >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Is this a browser security 'feature'? >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. >> >> Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: >> [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] >> >> >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> All looks good to me. >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. >> >> Can you play the LOs from here instead: >> http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm >> http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm >> >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: >> >> [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. >> >> Hi >> >> When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. >> >> I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. >> >> These are the LOs I'm working on: >> https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 >> https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks >> Oli >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number >> SC021474 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >> message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >> University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 12:48:43 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:48:43 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301ED05@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C50 0C858... 02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> There are two or three separate issues here... 1. I don't think the issue with your videos not playing locally is security related but could be wrong. 2. At the moment viewing Xerte LO's locally on a desktop or laptop does vary by OS, Browser version and settings. e.g. on my Win 7 laptop IE 10 and Firefox both work but IE prompts to allow blocked content first. The most reliable way to do this on laptops/desktops is to run a small local webserver and view the LO's via localhost. Doesn't have to be xampp which is overkill for just viewing - there are other smaller webservers like quickphp and others. You can then get local playback working via any browser but I'm not sure if there's a similar loacl webserver solution for tablets. 3. Offline on Android tablets and iPads does work but the solutions vary for each and again I'm sure vary by make, model, version of the device and browser etc etc. I spent a lot of time testing all this previously and trying different solutions on iPads, Android and Windows tablets and got offline working on each but the comibinations varied for each and I simply haven't had time to revisit and test more widely and then document and unfortunately don't at the moment either. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 12:31 To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Thanks everyone for your help with this. I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > What xml files do I run through the validator? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? > > I've found this very useful on occasion: > http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Is this a browser security 'feature'? > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. > > Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: > [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > All looks good to me. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. > > Can you play the LOs from here instead: > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: > > [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. > > I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. > > These are the LOs I'm working on: > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 > https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Oli > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 14:40:09 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:40:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EB39@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB70E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C50 0C858... 02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk>,<00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi, As Ron states below, it is possible to make it work but there is no one-stop solution. If you Google security settings for the browser/platform you are targetting then you should find loads of info Ron is spot on too about the videos not being related. Your videos are MP4 and should play fine but there is an ongoing issue with certain browsers, especially Chrome, where a video request is sent multiple times for a single video, often receiving small Partial headers back which then lock and use up all the available browser connections... You can see from the attached screenshot, while your video on Page 2 of the first LO loads fine, 6x requests are sent with the first 4 being small. It's still unclear why this happens but again it is a browser thing that has made it's way into multiple browser and platforms... you can try increasing the number of connections on some platforms but on other platforms this may not be possible... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 12:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There are two or three separate issues here... 1. I don't think the issue with your videos not playing locally is security related but could be wrong. 2. At the moment viewing Xerte LO's locally on a desktop or laptop does vary by OS, Browser version and settings. e.g. on my Win 7 laptop IE 10 and Firefox both work but IE prompts to allow blocked content first. The most reliable way to do this on laptops/desktops is to run a small local webserver and view the LO's via localhost. Doesn't have to be xampp which is overkill for just viewing - there are other smaller webservers like quickphp and others. You can then get local playback working via any browser but I'm not sure if there's a similar loacl webserver solution for tablets. 3. Offline on Android tablets and iPads does work but the solutions vary for each and again I'm sure vary by make, model, version of the device and browser etc etc. I spent a lot of time testing all this previously and trying different solutions on iPads, Android and Windows tablets and got offline working on each but the comibinations varied for each and I simply haven't had time to revisit and test more widely and then document and unfortunately don't at the moment either. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 12:31 To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Thanks everyone for your help with this. I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > What xml files do I run through the validator? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? > > I've found this very useful on occasion: > http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Is this a browser security 'feature'? > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. > > Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: > [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > All looks good to me. > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. > > Can you play the LOs from here instead: > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm > http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm > > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation > Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: > > [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. > > Hi > > When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." 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In-Reply-To: References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C50 0C858... 02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk>, <00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <5501A635.4050307@gmail.com> Hi, Do these multiple request have something to do with the prefetch function of Google Chrome ? You can find more info about this prefetch function at the following URL http://www.technipages.com/google-chrome-prefetch Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 15:40, Smith, John wrote: > Hi, > > As Ron states below, it is possible to make it work but there is no one-stop solution. If you Google security settings for the browser/platform you are targetting then you should find loads of info > > Ron is spot on too about the videos not being related. Your videos are MP4 and should play fine but there is an ongoing issue with certain browsers, especially Chrome, where a video request is sent multiple times for a single video, often receiving small Partial headers back which then lock and use up all the available browser connections... > > You can see from the attached screenshot, while your video on Page 2 of the first LO loads fine, 6x requests are sent with the first 4 being small. It's still unclear why this happens but again it is a browser thing that has made it's way into multiple browser and platforms... you can try increasing the number of connections on some platforms but on other platforms this may not be possible... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > There are two or three separate issues here... > > 1. I don't think the issue with your videos not playing locally is security > related but could be wrong. > > 2. At the moment viewing Xerte LO's locally on a desktop or laptop does vary > by OS, Browser version and settings. e.g. on my Win 7 laptop IE 10 and > Firefox both work but IE prompts to allow blocked content first. The most > reliable way to do this on laptops/desktops is to run a small local > webserver and view the LO's via localhost. Doesn't have to be xampp which is > overkill for just viewing - there are other smaller webservers like quickphp > and others. You can then get local playback working via any browser but I'm > not sure if there's a similar loacl webserver solution for tablets. > > 3. Offline on Android tablets and iPads does work but the solutions vary for > each and again I'm sure vary by make, model, version of the device and > browser etc etc. > > I spent a lot of time testing all this previously and trying different > solutions on iPads, Android and Windows tablets and got offline working on > each but the comibinations varied for each and I simply haven't had time to > revisit and test more widely and then document and unfortunately don't at > the moment either. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:31 > To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > Thanks everyone for your help with this. > > I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously > available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting > to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe > --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? > > _____________________________ > Oliver Haslam > Learning Technologist > Learning Innovation Unit > Faculty of Environment & Technology > University of the West of England > > 0117 32 88215 > _____________________________ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens > Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. > > You could try something like > > chrome.exe --disable-web-security > > Best regards, > > John Bijnens > > On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any > software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security > feature... >> Regards, >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam >> [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it > is browser security as they work online. >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> What xml files do I run through the validator? >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? >> >> I've found this very useful on occasion: >> http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp >> >> >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not > loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the > LO. >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Is this a browser security 'feature'? >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally > on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in > locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load > only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data > has not loaded' message. >> Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: >> [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] >> >> >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> All looks good to me. >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked > to users off-campus. >> Can you play the LOs from here instead: >> http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm >> http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm >> >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Julian Tenney >> Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. >> >> There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: >> >> [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] >> >> From: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> gham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. >> >> Hi >> >> When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the > downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The > project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the > Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. >> I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be > related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose > of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just > hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang > too. >> These are the LOs I'm working on: >> https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 >> https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks >> Oli >> >> _____________________________ >> Oliver Haslam >> Learning Technologist >> Learning Innovation >> Unit >> Faculty of Environment & Technology >> University of the West of England >> >> 0117 32 88215 >> _____________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 14:47:01 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:47:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: <5501A635.4050307@gmail.com> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C50 0C858... 02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk>, <00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> ,<5501A635.4050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi John, I don't think so as it is usually video and these partial 206 issues. It seems to be an issue within Webkit which is the engine that Safari and Chrome are based on and has been causing these types of issues for well over a year... You can see some issues here https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=234779 and also how to reproduce and identify... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens [johnbijnens1 at gmail.com] Sent: 12 March 2015 14:44 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Hi, Do these multiple request have something to do with the prefetch function of Google Chrome ? You can find more info about this prefetch function at the following URL http://www.technipages.com/google-chrome-prefetch Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 15:40, Smith, John wrote: Hi, As Ron states below, it is possible to make it work but there is no one-stop solution. If you Google security settings for the browser/platform you are targetting then you should find loads of info Ron is spot on too about the videos not being related. Your videos are MP4 and should play fine but there is an ongoing issue with certain browsers, especially Chrome, where a video request is sent multiple times for a single video, often receiving small Partial headers back which then lock and use up all the available browser connections... You can see from the attached screenshot, while your video on Page 2 of the first LO loads fine, 6x requests are sent with the first 4 being small. It's still unclear why this happens but again it is a browser thing that has made it's way into multiple browser and platforms... you can try increasing the number of connections on some platforms but on other platforms this may not be possible... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 12:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There are two or three separate issues here... 1. I don't think the issue with your videos not playing locally is security related but could be wrong. 2. At the moment viewing Xerte LO's locally on a desktop or laptop does vary by OS, Browser version and settings. e.g. on my Win 7 laptop IE 10 and Firefox both work but IE prompts to allow blocked content first. The most reliable way to do this on laptops/desktops is to run a small local webserver and view the LO's via localhost. Doesn't have to be xampp which is overkill for just viewing - there are other smaller webservers like quickphp and others. You can then get local playback working via any browser but I'm not sure if there's a similar loacl webserver solution for tablets. 3. Offline on Android tablets and iPads does work but the solutions vary for each and again I'm sure vary by make, model, version of the device and browser etc etc. I spent a lot of time testing all this previously and trying different solutions on iPads, Android and Windows tablets and got offline working on each but the comibinations varied for each and I simply haven't had time to revisit and test more widely and then document and unfortunately don't at the moment either. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 12:31 To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Thanks everyone for your help with this. I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 16:03:49 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:03:49 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Message-ID: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 16:47:47 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:47:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk>, Message-ID: Hi Ron, In actual fact Sarah Berthelemy has already logged this issue https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/211 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like
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... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 16:08:08 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:08:08 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010e01d05cde$bc7c6b30$35754190$@co.uk> Ok scrub that. Just viewed the source and removed the

and
tags presumably added by the editor and then it works like it does in 2.1. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 16:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Thu Mar 12 16:16:54 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 17:04:19 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:04:19 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk>, Message-ID: <011f01d05ce6$959fdda0$c0df98e0$@co.uk> Hi John hadn't spotted that and I'd replied to my previous message but it doesn't seem to have reached the list... Ok scrub that. Just viewed the source and removed the

and
tags presumably added by the editor and then it works like it does in 2.1. So basically adding the text in source mode and saving in source mode works as it does in 2.1 but switching back to the wysisyg mode and saving breaks it again by adding

tags and stripping the line breaks. I've added a few related points in the Trello board about this... Is there any way I/we can control editor options and/or what the editor strips away? A few examples: I added an image and as there wasn't any options in the image menu to configure hspace or vspace I added those tags via the source view which worked at first but get stripped away upon switching back to editor view and saving. Similarly I couldn't change image width to be a percentage via the image menu but again could via source. This also worked until getting stripped off by the editor. You'll see my post to the dev list about the bullets page. I can get that working as I want it (building the lines) via source view but if I switch back to wysiwyg view it adds

tags and strips away the line breaks. I'm hoping that as long as I don't make changes to that page it will continue to work without stripping the line breaks. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, In actual fact Sarah Berthelemy has already logged this issue https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/211 Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 12 17:16:01 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:16:01 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 08:37:24 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:37:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 13 09:38:08 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:38:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5502B000.5050606@tor.nl> I fixed it, by recognising

in the model. custom tags is not really a solution, because that's difficult for the user! Issue #216 is slightly different. Can't get the to work yet. Not in the old editor, not in the new. Julian Tenney schreef op 13-3-2015 om 9:37: > If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi John > overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. > > Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? > > We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. > > Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) > http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi Ron, > > The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... > > What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like > >

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>
... >
... etc > > You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as > > etc... > > These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... > > If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi all > a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? > > I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Mar 13 09:53:27 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 09:53:27 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002301d05d73$8f3016a0$ad9043e0$@co.uk> Why? As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere. Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great! So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective http://greensock.com/SplitText Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options. In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? http://greensock.com/gsap They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. http://greensock.com/products/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5754 bytes Desc: not available URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 09:57:27 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 09:57:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Depends what you deprecate... if you just don't allow adding then yes any editing of that page type will allow the extra tags to be put in but if you disallow adding and editing then what comes in from the legacy page should just be written back out... But I think it would be better to just make them work... there are a few models where the introduction of html screws the parsing of the data up, similarly with carriage returns so they are going to need worked on anyway and solutions to those may indeed fix the others... for example we replace all carriage returns with
but within a section of html or script we shouldn't otherwise it screws up the formatting of the page or processing of the script... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Mar 13 10:23:00 2015 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:23:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5502BA84.9050003@tor.nl> That's what I did for now. Just make them work. Smith, John schreef op 13-3-2015 om 10:57: > Depends what you deprecate... if you just don't allow adding then yes any editing of that page type will allow the extra tags to be put in but if you disallow adding and editing then what comes in from the legacy page should just be written back out... > > But I think it would be better to just make them work... there are a few models where the introduction of html screws the parsing of the data up, similarly with carriage returns so they are going to need worked on anyway and solutions to those may indeed fix the others... for example we replace all carriage returns with
but within a section of html or script we shouldn't otherwise it screws up the formatting of the page or processing of the script... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi John > overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. > > Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? > > We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. > > Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) > http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi Ron, > > The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... > > What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like > >

............
>
... >
... etc > > You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as > > etc... > > These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... > > If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi all > a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? > > I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 10:30:02 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:30:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <5502BA84.9050003@tor.nl> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <5502BA84.9050003@tor.nl> Message-ID: Should be easy to get most of them like that now since we now know what extra stuff the editor will be injecting... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 13 March 2015 10:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor That's what I did for now. Just make them work. Smith, John schreef op 13-3-2015 om 10:57: > Depends what you deprecate... if you just don't allow adding then yes any editing of that page type will allow the extra tags to be put in but if you disallow adding and editing then what comes in from the legacy page should just be written back out... > > But I think it would be better to just make them work... there are a few models where the introduction of html screws the parsing of the data up, similarly with carriage returns so they are going to need worked on anyway and solutions to those may indeed fix the others... for example we replace all carriage returns with
but within a section of html or script we shouldn't otherwise it screws up the formatting of the page or processing of the script... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University > Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi John > overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. > > Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? > > We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. > > Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) > http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi Ron, > > The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... > > What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like > >

............
>
... >
... etc > > You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as > > etc... > > These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... > > If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi all > a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? > > I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Mar 13 11:02:24 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:02:24 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <5502BA84.9050003@tor.nl> Message-ID: <005301d05d7d$30a10ae0$91e320a0$@co.uk> Thanks Tom for the fixes - especially the copy page issue - great that's working properly now - so much quicker to configure a page and copy it than to have to re-configure each time. The bullet fix sort of works but there's still a bit of an issue... If someone adds and populates a new bullet page - no problem. If someone plays an existing project containing a bullets page - again no problem. View an existing bullets page in the new editor without making a change and click play again no problem. But the minute you make a change with the new editor either 'plain view' or 'tools view' the text becomes a single line and no longer works until you manually re-add returns in the editor. I can live with having to reformat existing pages and I don't really have a good idea about how popular this pagetype has been todate. However I know it is used and popular for some and I suspect it will be more popular now that there is easy text formatting. So are we all ok with this partly breaking existing pages if edited? I think the benefits outweigh the downside of having to re-format but do we all agree? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 10:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Should be easy to get most of them like that now since we now know what extra stuff the editor will be injecting... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 13 March 2015 10:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor That's what I did for now. Just make them work. Smith, John schreef op 13-3-2015 om 10:57: > Depends what you deprecate... if you just don't allow adding then yes any editing of that page type will allow the extra tags to be put in but if you disallow adding and editing then what comes in from the legacy page should just be written back out... > > But I think it would be better to just make them work... there are a few models where the introduction of html screws the parsing of the data up, similarly with carriage returns so they are going to need worked on anyway and solutions to those may indeed fix the others... for example we replace all carriage returns with
but within a section of html or script we shouldn't otherwise it screws up the formatting of the page or processing of the script... > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi John > overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. > > Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? > > We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. > > Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. > It's almost animation! ;-) > http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi Ron, > > The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... > > What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being > converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the > new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar > to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor > like > >

............
>
... >
... etc > > You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you > need to put it in as > > etc... > > These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... > > If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi all > a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? > > I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 11:04:28 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:04:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 12:12:47 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:12:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <5502B000.5050606@tor.nl> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5502B000.5050606@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB768E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 13 March 2015 09:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor I fixed it, by recognising

in the model. custom tags is not really a solution, because that's difficult for the user! Issue #216 is slightly different. Can't get the to work yet. Not in the old editor, not in the new. Julian Tenney schreef op 13-3-2015 om 9:37: > If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi John > overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. > > Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? > > We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. > > Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. > It's almost animation! ;-) > http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi Ron, > > The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... > > What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being > converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the > new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar > to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor > like > >

............
>
... >
... etc > > You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you > need to put it in as > > etc... > > These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... > > If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor > > Hi all > a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? > > I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? > > Cheers > Ron > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Mar 13 12:45:13 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:45:13 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> Message-ID: <006601d05d8b$8e180300$aa480900$@co.uk> Cheers John that was just a test/demo page. I'm working on an LO to use during a webinar next week and using the opportunity to test the latest code at the same time. A bit risky but at least it makes a bit better use of all the time testing. I'll share the finished LO more widely during and after the webinar. BTW I've implemented an rsync script on a few installations now which backs up all project xml files each hour into separate hourly based sub folders so that in any 24hour period there's always a recoverable pair of xml files no older than hour. This is obviously triggered by cron and the paths will vary by system but at some point we'll have to discuss whether this should be included in some way. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 12:47:43 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:47:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <006601d05d8b$8e180300$aa480900$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> , <006601d05d8b$8e180300$aa480900$@co.uk> Message-ID: That sounds great, especially the backup script which would be great to include, even if disabled by default, in the new management pages... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 13 March 2015 12:45 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Cheers John that was just a test/demo page. I'm working on an LO to use during a webinar next week and using the opportunity to test the latest code at the same time. A bit risky but at least it makes a bit better use of all the time testing. I'll share the finished LO more widely during and after the webinar. BTW I've implemented an rsync script on a few installations now which backs up all project xml files each hour into separate hourly based sub folders so that in any 24hour period there's always a recoverable pair of xml files no older than hour. This is obviously triggered by cron and the paths will vary by system but at some point we'll have to discuss whether this should be included in some way. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 13:06:19 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:06:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <006601d05d8b$8e180300$aa480900$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <006601d05d8b$8e180300$aa480900$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB76F4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > whether this should be included in some way. I reckon so. Touch wood, we've never had a complete disaster on our hands, but we have had occasional data lost from an authoring session, and it's never a good moment. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 12:45 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Cheers John that was just a test/demo page. I'm working on an LO to use during a webinar next week and using the opportunity to test the latest code at the same time. A bit risky but at least it makes a bit better use of all the time testing. I'll share the finished LO more widely during and after the webinar. BTW I've implemented an rsync script on a few installations now which backs up all project xml files each hour into separate hourly based sub folders so that in any 24hour period there's always a recoverable pair of xml files no older than hour. This is obviously triggered by cron and the paths will vary by system but at some point we'll have to discuss whether this should be included in some way. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 13:11:49 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:11:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7700@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... One of my favourite things with this project is seeing things people do that had never even occurred to me. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 13:13:49 2015 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:13:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7700@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> , <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7700@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: definitely. It's a great enabler for people who aren't necessarily techy to produce great looking content... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 13 March 2015 13:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor > i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... One of my favourite things with this project is seeing things people do that had never even occurred to me. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 13 March 2015 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, I like that animation in your Learning Object, i'd have never thought of doing that with the bullets page... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 14:20:49 2015 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:20:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. In-Reply-To: References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EAA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBA6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB710A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EBE3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB711F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC2C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7141@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC3A@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301EC83@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <55018429.7010106@gmail.com> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C50 0C858... 02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk>, <00c601d05cc2$e0f46bf0$a2dd43d0$@co.uk> ,<5501A635.4050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8588301F9BF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Ron, John, John and Julian Thanks all, for your input on this. I think I'll have to ask my IT colleagues to see if they can take this forward. Best Oliver _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 14:47 To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Hi John, I don't think so as it is usually video and these partial 206 issues. It seems to be an issue within Webkit which is the engine that Safari and Chrome are based on and has been causing these types of issues for well over a year... You can see some issues here https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=234779 and also how to reproduce and identify... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens [johnbijnens1 at gmail.com] Sent: 12 March 2015 14:44 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Hi, Do these multiple request have something to do with the prefetch function of Google Chrome ? You can find more info about this prefetch function at the following URL http://www.technipages.com/google-chrome-prefetch Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 15:40, Smith, John wrote: Hi, As Ron states below, it is possible to make it work but there is no one-stop solution. If you Google security settings for the browser/platform you are targetting then you should find loads of info Ron is spot on too about the videos not being related. Your videos are MP4 and should play fine but there is an ongoing issue with certain browsers, especially Chrome, where a video request is sent multiple times for a single video, often receiving small Partial headers back which then lock and use up all the available browser connections... You can see from the attached screenshot, while your video on Page 2 of the first LO loads fine, 6x requests are sent with the first 4 being small. It's still unclear why this happens but again it is a browser thing that has made it's way into multiple browser and platforms... you can try increasing the number of connections on some platforms but on other platforms this may not be possible... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 12:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There are two or three separate issues here... 1. I don't think the issue with your videos not playing locally is security related but could be wrong. 2. At the moment viewing Xerte LO's locally on a desktop or laptop does vary by OS, Browser version and settings. e.g. on my Win 7 laptop IE 10 and Firefox both work but IE prompts to allow blocked content first. The most reliable way to do this on laptops/desktops is to run a small local webserver and view the LO's via localhost. Doesn't have to be xampp which is overkill for just viewing - there are other smaller webservers like quickphp and others. You can then get local playback working via any browser but I'm not sure if there's a similar loacl webserver solution for tablets. 3. Offline on Android tablets and iPads does work but the solutions vary for each and again I'm sure vary by make, model, version of the device and browser etc etc. I spent a lot of time testing all this previously and trying different solutions on iPads, Android and Windows tablets and got offline working on each but the comibinations varied for each and I simply haven't had time to revisit and test more widely and then document and unfortunately don't at the moment either. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 12:31 To: JohnBijnens1 at gmail.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Thanks everyone for your help with this. I've had a look at the settings in Chrome and can't see anything obviously available. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this is starting to get beyond my capabilities. Where would I do what John (chrome.exe --disable-web-security) is suggesting, for example? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Bijnens Sent: 12 March 2015 12:19 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. You could try something like chrome.exe --disable-web-security Best regards, John Bijnens On 12/03/2015 13:07, Oliver Haslam wrote: Does this mean it's not possible to play Xerte LOs offline? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 12:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Just to clarify, this isn't a Xerte issue... this would happen with any software producing an offline html5/xml package... it is a browser security feature... Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam [Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Yes, template.xml is fine in the validator. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. The template.xml file. But I don't think that is the problem. I think it is browser security as they work online. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. What xml files do I run through the validator? _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Have you ran the xml through an xml validator? I've found this very useful on occasion: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Not a feature that I can see. On the tablet I get 'project data has not loaded' in Opera, Chrome and the built in browser - only FF will load the LO. _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Is this a browser security 'feature'? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. They're fine when played from a webserver. But they need to play locally on machines which don't have internet connections i.e. tablet computers in locations with no wifi available. With Firefox on a tablet the LOs will load only the first two videos will play, other browsers get the 'project data has not loaded' message. Played locally on a desktop I get this message in Chrome: [cid:image001.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. All looks good to me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. Sorry - I think that may be because access to our xerte server is blocked to users off-campus. Can you play the LOs from here instead: http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Shear_box_NEW_TEST/index.htm http://fet.uwe.ac.uk/liu/Using_the_Heliodon_v3/index.htm _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 March 2015 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: The project data has not loaded. There is a problem, I'm not sure it is xerte related: [cid:image002.png at 01D05CBB.60391DA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 12 March 2015 10:54 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] The project data has not loaded. Hi When I try to play LOs in any browser other than Firefox (using the downloaded deployment zip) I get a message in the browser saying "The project data has not loaded." This occurs on desktop machines and the Android tablets I ultimately want to deploy the LOs on. I'm happy just to use Firefox on the tablet, the problem (which may be related?) is that only the first two videos chosen (whichever two I choose of the four available, it doesn't matter) will play. Subsequent videos just hang and when I return to the videos that worked a moment earlier they hang too. These are the LOs I'm working on: https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=314 https://xerte.uwe.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=303 Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _____________________________ Oliver Haslam Learning Technologist Learning Innovation Unit Faculty of Environment & Technology University of the West of England 0117 32 88215 _____________________________ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 15:27:31 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:27:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <002301d05d73$8f3016a0$ad9043e0$@co.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002301d05d73$8f3016a0$ad9043e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB77FA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Gsap looks cool: is the licensing OK for inclusion in Xerte? It says something about 'if you sell to multiple end users'. http://greensock.com/licensing/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 09:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Why? As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere. Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great! [cid:image001.jpg at 01D05DA2.38C4A180] So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective http://greensock.com/SplitText Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options. In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? http://greensock.com/gsap They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. http://greensock.com/products/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5754 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Mar 13 15:30:32 2015 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:30:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB77FA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002301d05d73$8f3016a0$ad9043e0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB77FA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think it's OK: as long as you don't sell it. This is where licensing can be tricky though: would we want to include a library that meant users downstream couldn't sell services built on xerte, even though distributing it for free is OK? I don' think that is compatible with Apache 2.0 and the no nonsense 'do anything you like' approach we have. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 15:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Gsap looks cool: is the licensing OK for inclusion in Xerte? It says something about 'if you sell to multiple end users'. http://greensock.com/licensing/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 09:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Why? As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere. Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great! [cid:image001.jpg at 01D05DA2.A4E376C0] So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective http://greensock.com/SplitText Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options. In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? http://greensock.com/gsap They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. http://greensock.com/products/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5754 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Mar 13 15:56:45 2015 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:56:45 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010301d05cde$21ce55d0$656b0170$@co.uk> <012001d05ce8$37ae9220$a70bb660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB74A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002301d05d73$8f3016a0$ad9043e0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB77FA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0DE7DB7802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <011201d05da6$4f947cb0$eebd7610$@co.uk> I don't think we need to distribute. Would be good if we could but nothing to stop us using it as part of materials development and document how others could too. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 15:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor I think it's OK: as long as you don't sell it. This is where licensing can be tricky though: would we want to include a library that meant users downstream couldn't sell services built on xerte, even though distributing it for free is OK? I don' think that is compatible with Apache 2.0 and the no nonsense 'do anything you like' approach we have. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 15:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Gsap looks cool: is the licensing OK for inclusion in Xerte? It says something about 'if you sell to multiple end users'. http://greensock.com/licensing/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 09:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Why? As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere. Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great! So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective http://greensock.com/SplitText Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options. In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? http://greensock.com/gsap They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. http://greensock.com/products/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

............
...
... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 15:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor I don't think we need to distribute. Would be good if we could but nothing to stop us using it as part of materials development and document how others could too. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 15:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor I think it's OK: as long as you don't sell it. This is where licensing can be tricky though: would we want to include a library that meant users downstream couldn't sell services built on xerte, even though distributing it for free is OK? I don' think that is compatible with Apache 2.0 and the no nonsense 'do anything you like' approach we have. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 15:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Gsap looks cool: is the licensing OK for inclusion in Xerte? It says something about 'if you sell to multiple end users'. http://greensock.com/licensing/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 13 March 2015 09:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Why? As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere. Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great! [cid:image001.jpg at 01D05DA6.6497AB00] So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective http://greensock.com/SplitText Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options. In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? http://greensock.com/gsap They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. http://greensock.com/products/ Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi John overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one. Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on

tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. and change the model so that it builds based on that tag? We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page. Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-) http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35 Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi Ron, The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault... What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to

tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like

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... etc You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as etc... These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them... If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues. Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor Hi all a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick? I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Tom On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:23:48 +0000 "Davidson, Andrew" wrote Hi We've noticed a bit of an odd behaviour change with the multiple choice page template (java version) when a scorm package is deployed in Moodle - when displaying/using the url version of the course the multiple choice allows for multiple attempts but when using the scorm file, the user is limited to one attempt even if advancing a page and returning to the multiple choice page. Again, in the url version, multiple attempts are fine. Any ideas whether this is a moodle or scorm/xerte issue, and whether there is a fix for this? Cheers, Andy This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Cheers Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 March 2015 16:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte multiple choice issue Hi, it's a Xerte feature. If tracking is enabled, it only allows fro 1 answer. If tracking is not important, switch tracking of at the LO level, or set the tracking weight to 0 at the MCQ level. If you need/want something else, let me know, and I try to help you along. Tom On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:23:48 +0000 "Davidson, Andrew" > wrote Hi We've noticed a bit of an odd behaviour change with the multiple choice page template (java version) when a scorm package is deployed in Moodle - when displaying/using the url version of the course the multiple choice allows for multiple attempts but when using the scorm file, the user is limited to one attempt even if advancing a page and returning to the multiple choice page. 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Performance impact of uploading and delivering direct obviously depends on numbers but I suspect in reality this will be most noticeable on mobile consumption via lower bandwidth connections where a streaming service is always going to povide better learner experience. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Naveed Hashmi Sent: 25 March 2015 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Emedding/delivering large video files in Xerte - performance impact? Hi, I'm a newbie to XOT ... we are planning on implementing the Xerte Online Toolkit Kits as a Univeristy wide service. One concern raised was around the possibility of uploading and delivering large video files embedded in the learning objects to many users. And the expectation that multiple users would view the video at the same time'ish. I expect there to be a performance impact due to bandwidth. 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URL: From info at pgogywebstuff.com Wed Mar 25 15:02:01 2015 From: info at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat Lockley (Pgogy)) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:02:01 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: =?utf-8?q?Emedding/delivering_large_video_files_in_Xerte_-=09?= =?utf-8?q?performance_impact=3F?= In-Reply-To: <007501d06709$91fb3370$b5f19a50$@co.uk> References: <007501d06709$91fb3370$b5f19a50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <93f761818a40196c713aae09cb4b8ecc@pgogywebstuff.com> Hello Depending on how techie you are / can get hold of, you could just install xerte to a server with streaming capabilities anyway. I am assuming Xerte stuff can be cached via apache settings and so on? Pat On 2015-03-25 10:39, Ron Mitchell wrote: > You are far better off providing a streaming service or getting users > to use an external service for large video files and embedding from > there. > > In the past when we only had the Flash player delivery of Xerte > content embedding from streaming services was a bit more problematic > but now with the html 5 player embed code can be added anywhere more > or less regardless of the service used. > > In some circumstance uploading small videos direct to an LO might be > justified but in most cases embedding from a streaming service is > always advisable. > > Performance impact of uploading and delivering direct obviously > depends on numbers but I suspect in reality this will be most > noticeable on mobile consumption via lower bandwidth connections where > a streaming service is always going to povide better learner > experience. > > HTH > > Ron > > FROM: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Naveed > Hashmi > SENT: 25 March 2015 14:24 > TO: Xerte discussion list > SUBJECT: [Xerte] Emedding/delivering large video files in Xerte - > performance impact? > > Hi, > > I'm a newbie to XOT ... we are planning on implementing the Xerte > Online Toolkit Kits as a Univeristy wide service. One concern raised > was around the possibility of uploading and delivering large video > files embedded in the learning objects to many users. And the > expectation that multiple users would view the video at the same > time'ish. I expect there to be a performance impact due to bandwidth. > What are others doing? will XOT cope? or do you provide a link to a > video streaming service which stores all your video files? > > Thanks, > > Naveed > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > > message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -- Pgogy Webstuff pgogywebstuff.com From Naveed.Hashmi at bristol.ac.uk Wed Mar 25 16:29:51 2015 From: Naveed.Hashmi at bristol.ac.uk (Naveed Hashmi) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:29:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Emedding/delivering large video files in Xerte - performance impact? In-Reply-To: <93f761818a40196c713aae09cb4b8ecc@pgogywebstuff.com> References: <007501d06709$91fb3370$b5f19a50$@co.uk> <93f761818a40196c713aae09cb4b8ecc@pgogywebstuff.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ron/Pat, we could store/deliver these videos via the following (recently purchased) ... http://www.sonicfoundry.com/mediasite/publishing Naveed On 25 March 2015 at 15:02, Pat Lockley (Pgogy) wrote: > Hello > > Depending on how techie you are / can get hold of, you could just install > xerte to a server with streaming capabilities anyway. > > I am assuming Xerte stuff can be cached via apache settings and so on? > > Pat > > On 2015-03-25 10:39, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> You are far better off providing a streaming service or getting users >> to use an external service for large video files and embedding from >> there. >> >> In the past when we only had the Flash player delivery of Xerte >> content embedding from streaming services was a bit more problematic >> but now with the html 5 player embed code can be added anywhere more >> or less regardless of the service used. >> >> In some circumstance uploading small videos direct to an LO might be >> justified but in most cases embedding from a streaming service is >> always advisable. >> >> Performance impact of uploading and delivering direct obviously >> depends on numbers but I suspect in reality this will be most >> noticeable on mobile consumption via lower bandwidth connections where >> a streaming service is always going to povide better learner >> experience. >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> FROM: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF Naveed >> Hashmi >> SENT: 25 March 2015 14:24 >> TO: Xerte discussion list >> SUBJECT: [Xerte] Emedding/delivering large video files in Xerte - >> >> performance impact? >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm a newbie to XOT ... we are planning on implementing the Xerte >> Online Toolkit Kits as a Univeristy wide service. One concern raised >> was around the possibility of uploading and delivering large video >> files embedded in the learning objects to many users. And the >> expectation that multiple users would view the video at the same >> time'ish. I expect there to be a performance impact due to bandwidth. >> What are others doing? will XOT cope? or do you provide a link to a >> video streaming service which stores all your video files? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Naveed >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. >> >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >> >> message or in any attachment. 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Join in with the Six Book Challenge. Follow us on Twitter @PetrocLTLS Petroc North Devon Campus Old Sticklepath Hill Barnstaple Devon EX31 2BQ T +44 (0)1271 338170 F +44 (0)1271 338121 phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk www.petroc.ac.uk DISCLAIMER - Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the individual and not necessarily Petroc. This communication and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the College are solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this communication in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. 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The full screen option only really works via play not preview because the preview window is set to pop open in a fixed size by default. If by any chance you are referring to older Flash playback and viewing offline it could be Flash Player security settings. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mcdonald, Phil Sent: 26 March 2015 15:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Full screen issues Hello, Hopefully a simple query, and probably one I should know the answer but just can't work out. We're having issues getting our published xerte objects to display full screen, even in the editor. Indeed, choosing full screen seems to shrink it ever so slightly, as if the object thinks that full screen is much smaller than the browser or screen it's actually opening in. Any suggestions on what we might be doing wrong, or how to adjust the settings so that it opens according to the PC screen it's being viewed on would be gratefully received. Thanks, Phil McDonald E-learning Coordinator Directorate for Quality and Performance I am currently reading Weaveworld by Clive Barker. Join in with the Six Book Challenge. Follow us on Twitter @PetrocLTLS Petroc North Devon Campus Old Sticklepath Hill Barnstaple Devon EX31 2BQ T +44 (0)1271 338170 F +44 (0)1271 338121 phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk www.petroc.ac.uk DISCLAIMER - Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the individual and not necessarily Petroc. This communication and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the College are solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. 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URL: From phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk Thu Mar 26 16:00:07 2015 From: phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk (Mcdonald, Phil) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:00:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Full screen issues In-Reply-To: <00e001d067dc$3a718a90$af549fb0$@co.uk> References: <82EC4D0B07521D4DA7118565B7F321AC02B18DBC557E@BPL-EX02.internal.petroc.ac.uk> <00e001d067dc$3a718a90$af549fb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <82EC4D0B07521D4DA7118565B7F321AC02B18DBC5580@BPL-EX02.internal.petroc.ac.uk> Hi Ron, Yes, it's HTML rather than Flash, and your play vs preview explanation has cleared this up for us, along with browser zooming issues we had during preview. All sorted now! Many thanks, Phil McDonald E-learning Coordinator Directorate for Quality and Performance I am currently reading Weaveworld by Clive Barker. Join in with the Six Book Challenge. Follow us on Twitter @PetrocLTLS Petroc North Devon Campus Old Sticklepath Hill Barnstaple Devon EX31 2BQ T +44 (0)1271 338170 F +44 (0)1271 338121 phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk www.petroc.ac.uk From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 26 March 2015 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Full screen issues Are you talking about HTML rather than Flash playback and viewing online not offline? Example link? The full screen option only really works via play not preview because the preview window is set to pop open in a fixed size by default. If by any chance you are referring to older Flash playback and viewing offline it could be Flash Player security settings. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mcdonald, Phil Sent: 26 March 2015 15:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Full screen issues Hello, Hopefully a simple query, and probably one I should know the answer but just can't work out. We're having issues getting our published xerte objects to display full screen, even in the editor. Indeed, choosing full screen seems to shrink it ever so slightly, as if the object thinks that full screen is much smaller than the browser or screen it's actually opening in. Any suggestions on what we might be doing wrong, or how to adjust the settings so that it opens according to the PC screen it's being viewed on would be gratefully received. Thanks, Phil McDonald E-learning Coordinator Directorate for Quality and Performance I am currently reading Weaveworld by Clive Barker. Join in with the Six Book Challenge. Follow us on Twitter @PetrocLTLS Petroc North Devon Campus Old Sticklepath Hill Barnstaple Devon EX31 2BQ T +44 (0)1271 338170 F +44 (0)1271 338121 phil.mcdonald at petroc.ac.uk www.petroc.ac.uk [https://www.petroc.ac.uk/_assets/EmailFooter/footer.jpg] DISCLAIMER - Any opinions expressed in this communication are those of the individual and not necessarily Petroc. This communication and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the College are solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this communication in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. 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