[Xerte] Re: Creating Animation

[Rick Ashby]

I love this idea.  I've thought of doing a similar thing with high school
students akin to forensic and debate tournaments only presented as
multimedia rather than oratory.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Alistair McNaught <
Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote:

>  For years I’ve wanted to run a “content creation circus” based around
> exactly that idea…
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> Get a bunch of creative people with a very varied range of technical
> skills and set them some challenges - a bit like scrapheap challenge. They
> could use any tools they wanted to provided they were free/open source.
> They would have between one and two hours to create a learning resource.
> The most valuable aspect of the circus wouldn't be the diverse range of
> learning resources at the end of the session but it would be the commentary
> that the performers gave as to why they chose to approach of the way they
> did and how those choices contributed to the pedagogical approaches,
> differentiation and skills development that the learner would experience in
> the final learning activity.
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> All I lacked was a budget J
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 07 July 2014 11:00
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> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> > than it is to tweak lots of individual frame timings to fit the audio
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> In powerpoint, yes, but not on a  timeline. I’d much rather animate to the
> narration. Maybe we should have a race! Actually thyat might be fun: take a
> general subject like the water cycle and see which approaches work best…
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught
> *Sent:* 07 July 2014 10:41
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> I guess it depends on personal preference as well as context. My gut
> reaction would be to create the animation first and then narrate it live
> because it is considerably easier to add a pause or to speak a little
> faster/slower where needed than it is to tweak lots of individual frame
> timings to fit the audio.
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 07 July 2014 10:30
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> > I’d want to see the assembly of the animation as a separate activity.
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> Do you fit the animation to the recorded narration, or do you try and time
> your narration to fir the animation? i.e. Record narration first, then
> animate - or other way round?
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught
> *Sent:* 04 July 2014 15:42
> *To:* Xerte discussion list; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> -          The presenter talks through the content and creates the
> animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate
> to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves
> etc)
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> That’s the bit I don’t really get. Whilst you are narrating you don’t want
> to be fiddling around dragging in the next bit. I’d want to see the
> assembly of the animation as a separate activity. Once it’s assembled and
> working nicely then by all means narrate like the existing audio slideshow.
> Animated gifs can be great but better still is something that allows a
> control bar because you want to give the user the chance to pause and make
> notes or reflect – its also good accessibility practice..
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> -          Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast /
> move slow
> Yes, they would be great. I think we need to be realistic about the sort
> of things a user would need to take on board though. They’d need to think
> about stacking order, frame delay, transparency etc. These aren’t concepts
> everyone would be familiar with initially but if the tool was easy enough
> to use maybe they could get it.
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught
> *Sent:* 04 July 2014 14:30
> *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> If it was easy for end user it would be great
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> <xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy)
> *Sent:* 04 July 2014 13:13
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> Would an animated gif maker be a good template?
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> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught <
> Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote:
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> From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by
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> ·         setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page
> dimensions)
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> ·         drawing the first frame
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> ·         duplicating the slide
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> ·         making the small changes needed for the second frame
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> ·         duplicating the second frame
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> ·         repeating
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> ·         save finished presentation as gifs
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> ·         use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no
> admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them.
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> ·         Save as animated gif.
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> ·         Add to any relevant Xerte page
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> There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is
> really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn’t allow onion
> skinning etc but I’ve produced several things using this approach – see
> slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach
> transect process is illustrated.
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
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> I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then
> add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a
> predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to
> tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do
> something like that...
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
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> Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48
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> To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)
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> Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation
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> I’m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we
> have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He’s currently using
> powerpoint to create this sort of thing:
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711
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> I think the results are really good, and it’s taken some time to get
> right. I’m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and
> efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others?
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> What I’m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this
> sort of thing? It doesn’t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture
> of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process
> for example. We’re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it’s
> more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do.
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> Ideas?
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> Thanks,
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> Julian
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