From Martin.Arman-Addey at hadlow.ac.uk Thu Aug 7 16:59:55 2014 From: Martin.Arman-Addey at hadlow.ac.uk (Martin Arman-Addey) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:59:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Message-ID: <2F2802DBF8094B43B9E9CC3CBF2A3C061B993F9C@MBX-A-VM.Hadlow.local> Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. Thank you. Martin Arman-Addey IT Systems Co-ordinator Extension (244) Computer Services Forum Computer Systems Status -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hadlow College, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent. TN11 0AL Tel: 01732 850 551 Fax: 01732 853 207 Web: www.hadlow.ac.uk Please consider the environment before printing this communication Disclaimer E-mails are susceptible to interference. 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But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use - there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available at http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday30052014 In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no longer specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but that would need installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Arman-Addey Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. 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The Nottingham University Xerte page at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/toolkits.aspx contains a link to the getting started section and installation guide and the community site should have the relevant info too. But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use - there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available at http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday30052014 In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no longer specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but that would need installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. HTHRon From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Arman-Addey Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. Thank you. Martin Arman-AddeyIT Systems Co-ordinator Extension (244) Computer Services ForumComputer Systems Status Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College...www.hadlow.ac.uk P Please consider the environment before printing this communication Disclaimer E-mails are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that the contents originated from Hadlow College or that they have been accurately reproduced from their original form. 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Dave _____ From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:20:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi sorry you couldn't find the info but where did you look and what did you search for? The Nottingham University Xerte page at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/toolkits.aspx contains a link to the getting started section and installation guide and the community site should have the relevant info too. But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use - there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available at http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday30052014 In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no longer specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but that would need installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Arman-Addey Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. Thank you. 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Kind regards, Andrew Andrew P Smith Technology Officer Centre for Applied Linguistics University of Warwick Gibbet Hill Coventry CV4 7AL andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk Direct Line +44 2476528440 Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > On 7 Aug 2014, at 17:21, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" wrote: > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use > Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Martin Arman-Addey) > 2. Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to > use Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:59:55 +0000 > From: Martin Arman-Addey > To: "'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk'" > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > Message-ID: > <2F2802DBF8094B43B9E9CC3CBF2A3C061B993F9C at MBX-A-VM.Hadlow.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. > > Thank you. > > Martin Arman-Addey > IT Systems Co-ordinator > Extension (244) > Computer Services Forum > Computer Systems Status > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hadlow College, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent. TN11 0AL > Tel: 01732 850 551 Fax: 01732 853 207 > Web: www.hadlow.ac.uk > > Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > Disclaimer > E-mails are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that the contents originated from Hadlow College or that they have been accurately reproduced from their original form. Hadlow College accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. > > Confidentiality > The contents of this email are confidential to the sender and intended recipient. It may also be privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. It is important that you should not disclose its contents to any other person or photocopy it for your own or others uses. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:20:17 +0100 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is > required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > Message-ID: <001801cfb25b$7b2a1fc0$717e5f40$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > sorry you couldn't find the info but where did you look and what did you > search for? The Nottingham University Xerte page at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/toolkits.aspx contains a link to the > getting started section and installation guide and the community site should > have the relevant info too. > > > > But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use - > there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available at > http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday30052014 > > > > In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. > > I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no longer > specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but that would need > installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin > Arman-Addey > Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 > To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to > use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > > > > Hi, > > > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to > get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can > find no useful information. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Martin Arman-Addey > > IT Systems Co-ordinator > > Extension (244) > > Computer > Services Forum > > Computer Systems Status > > > > > Hadlow College Logo > > > Kent Excellence in Business Awards > > Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College... > > > > > > > > > > www.hadlow.ac.uk > > > > > Contact us now - we can help > jpg> > > P Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > Disclaimer > E-mails are susceptible to interference. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Aug 7 20:47:37 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:47:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006001cfb278$71e868f0$55b93ad0$@co.uk> Not sure if you've discovered this already but Xerte already has some LTI functionality configurable via the management page. Some basic notes in the documentation folder e.g. \documentation\LTI Documentation.txt However I don't think it has the automatic account creation functionality part of LTI so I'm not sure it currently works in the way you would want but could be wrong about that, it's quite a while since I tested this. Likewise if you require tracking of scores etc in the remote LMS I don't think that's possible with the current codebase either. However I know Tom Reijnders has been looking at, or plans to look at, Tin Can functionality so that might be a possibility for the tracking side etc in the future. Obviously it's open source so you could always add the functionality you require and if you do then share that back with the community. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Andrew Sent: 07 August 2014 20:23 To: Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and IMS LTI I have just discovered IMS LTI and it looks as if it is the solution to the problem we have delivering course content to other user's local LMS, without losing control of the content. The LMS end of the system looks straight forward but I am looking for any experience anyone has of setting up the LTI Tool end using course materials developed in Xerte. Is there a way to deliver Xerte learning objects as remote tools in an IMS LTI configuration? Has anyone done this already or am I going to have to start from scratch? Kind regards, Andrew Andrew P Smith Technology Officer Centre for Applied Linguistics University of Warwick Gibbet Hill Coventry CV4 7AL andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk Direct Line +44 2476528440 Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > On 7 Aug 2014, at 17:21, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" wrote: > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use > Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Martin Arman-Addey) > 2. Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to > use Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:59:55 +0000 > From: Martin Arman-Addey > To: "'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk'" > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > Message-ID: > <2F2802DBF8094B43B9E9CC3CBF2A3C061B993F9C at MBX-A-VM.Hadlow.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. > > Thank you. > > Martin Arman-Addey > IT Systems Co-ordinator > Extension (244) > Computer Services > Forum > Computer Systems Status > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Hadlow College, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent. TN11 0AL > Tel: 01732 850 551 Fax: 01732 853 207 > Web: www.hadlow.ac.uk > > Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > Disclaimer > E-mails are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that the contents originated from Hadlow College or that they have been accurately reproduced from their original form. Hadlow College accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. > > Confidentiality > The contents of this email are confidential to the sender and intended recipient. It may also be privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. It is important that you should not disclose its contents to any other person or photocopy it for your own or others uses. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > e7a88b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:20:17 +0100 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is > required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > Message-ID: <001801cfb25b$7b2a1fc0$717e5f40$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > sorry you couldn't find the info but where did you look and what did > you search for? The Nottingham University Xerte page at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/toolkits.aspx contains a link to the > getting started section and installation guide and the community site > should have the relevant info too. > > > > But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use > - there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available > at > http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday3005201 > 4 > > > > In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. > > I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no > longer specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but > that would need installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin > Arman-Addey > Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 > To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > > > > Hi, > > > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is > required to get xerte installed and working on a server side > implementation, but can find no useful information. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Martin Arman-Addey > > IT Systems Co-ordinator > > Extension (244) > > Computer > Services Forum > > Computer Systems Status > > > > > Hadlow College Logo > > > Kent Excellence in Business Awards > > Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College... > > > > > > > > > > www.hadlow.ac.uk > > > > > Contact us now - we can help > jpg> > > P Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > Disclaimer > E-mails are susceptible to interference. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Aug 8 09:26:04 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:26:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI In-Reply-To: <006001cfb278$71e868f0$55b93ad0$@co.uk> References: <006001cfb278$71e868f0$55b93ad0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C4EB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, we use it to provide access to toolkits from Moodle, although as Moodle's LTI implementation is pretty horrible we don't find many use it: you get to it by adding 'external tool' from moodle's menu which then let's you add a Xerte Online Toolkits item, which then allows you to login, which then allows you to select a LO to include. It is just horribly unintuitive. It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that directly in Moodle. These screens illustrate the LTI journey... [cid:image001.png at 01CFB2EA.C6E40F40] [cid:image002.png at 01CFB2EA.C6E40F40] [cid:image003.png at 01CFB2EA.C6E40F40] [cid:image004.png at 01CFB2EA.C6E40F40] [cid:image005.png at 01CFB2EA.C6E40F40] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 August 2014 20:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI Not sure if you've discovered this already but Xerte already has some LTI functionality configurable via the management page. Some basic notes in the documentation folder e.g. \documentation\LTI Documentation.txt However I don't think it has the automatic account creation functionality part of LTI so I'm not sure it currently works in the way you would want but could be wrong about that, it's quite a while since I tested this. Likewise if you require tracking of scores etc in the remote LMS I don't think that's possible with the current codebase either. However I know Tom Reijnders has been looking at, or plans to look at, Tin Can functionality so that might be a possibility for the tracking side etc in the future. Obviously it's open source so you could always add the functionality you require and if you do then share that back with the community. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Andrew Sent: 07 August 2014 20:23 To: > Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and IMS LTI I have just discovered IMS LTI and it looks as if it is the solution to the problem we have delivering course content to other user's local LMS, without losing control of the content. The LMS end of the system looks straight forward but I am looking for any experience anyone has of setting up the LTI Tool end using course materials developed in Xerte. Is there a way to deliver Xerte learning objects as remote tools in an IMS LTI configuration? Has anyone done this already or am I going to have to start from scratch? Kind regards, Andrew Andrew P Smith Technology Officer Centre for Applied Linguistics University of Warwick Gibbet Hill Coventry CV4 7AL andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk Direct Line +44 2476528440 Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > On 7 Aug 2014, at 17:21, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > wrote: > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use > Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Martin Arman-Addey) > 2. Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to > use Xerte as there is nothing on your website (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:59:55 +0000 > From: Martin Arman-Addey > > To: "'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk'" > > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > Message-ID: > <2F2802DBF8094B43B9E9CC3CBF2A3C061B993F9C at MBX-A-VM.Hadlow.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is > required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. > > Thank you. > > Martin Arman-Addey > IT Systems Co-ordinator > Extension (244) > Computer Services > Forum > Computer Systems Status > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Hadlow College, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent. 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The Nottingham University Xerte page at > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/toolkits.aspx contains a link to the > getting started section and installation guide and the community site > should have the relevant info too. > > > > But perhaps the JISC TechDis Xerte Friday I delivered in May is of use > - there's a recording as well as a copy of the presentation available > at > http://jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/events/detail/2014/xertefriday3005201 > 4 > > > > In short though - historically any webserver with PHP and MySQL. > > I say historically because in theory the very latest code base is no > longer specifically MySQL and could be used with other options but > that would need installation expertise so the easiest is MySQL right now. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin > Arman-Addey > Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 > To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' > Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > > > > Hi, > > > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is > required to get xerte installed and working on a server side > implementation, but can find no useful information. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Martin Arman-Addey > > IT Systems Co-ordinator > > Extension (244) > > Computer > Services Forum > > Computer Systems Status > > > > > Hadlow College Logo > > > Kent Excellence in Business Awards > > Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College... > > > > > > > > > > www.hadlow.ac.uk > > > > > Contact us now - we can help > jpg> > > P Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > Disclaimer > E-mails are susceptible to interference. 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[cid:image001.png at 01CFB2EB.70741C30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Arman-Addey Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. Thank you. Martin Arman-Addey IT Systems Co-ordinator Extension (244) Computer Services Forum Computer Systems Status [https://webmail.hadlow.ac.uk/images/HAD_footer/image295.png] [https://webmail.hadlow.ac.uk/images/HAD_footer/KEiBA-2014-Sponsor-Logo-Web.png] Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College... 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On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > If you google ?installing xerte?, the top result is a pdf called ?Xerte > Online Toolkits ? Installation Guide?. It?s also included in the download > zip. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Martin Arman-Addey > *Sent:* 07 August 2014 17:00 > *To:* 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required > to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website > > > > Hi, > > > > I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required > to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can > find no useful information. > > > > Thank you. > > > > *Martin Arman-Addey* > > IT Systems Co-ordinator > > Extension (244) > > *Computer Services Forum > * > > *Computer Systems Status * > > > > [image: Hadlow College Logo] > > [image: Kent Excellence in Business Awards] > > *Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College...* > > > > > > > > *www.hadlow.ac.uk * > > [image: Contact us now - we can help] > > P Please consider the environment before printing this communication > > *Disclaimer* > E-mails are susceptible to interference. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 08 August 2014 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website I did the same to test, but didn't feel snarky enough to post to the list :) I also got slightly scared the install guide has 2009 on it - almost 5 years old.... I think it was January 2009 we showed it to the elearning community? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you google ?installing xerte?, the top result is a pdf called ?Xerte Online Toolkits ? Installation Guide?. It?s also included in the download zip. [cid:image001.png at 01CFB2F4.D8DA8E40] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Arman-Addey Sent: 07 August 2014 17:00 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Could I just have a simple answer to what is required to use Xerte as there is nothing on your website Hi, I have just spent the last 35 minutes trying to find out what is required to get xerte installed and working on a server side implementation, but can find no useful information. Thank you. Martin Arman-Addey IT Systems Co-ordinator Extension (244) Computer Services Forum Computer Systems Status [https://webmail.hadlow.ac.uk/images/HAD_footer/image295.png] [https://webmail.hadlow.ac.uk/images/HAD_footer/KEiBA-2014-Sponsor-Logo-Web.png] Follow the 'Outstanding' land-based College... 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The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Aug 8 16:28:46 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:28:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00d401cfb31d$7302f1b0$5908d510$@co.uk> It suggests that the bug is with Chrome not Xerte! Haven't noticed this before - perhaps due to a Chrome or YouTube update and bizarre given that Chrome and YouTube are both Google owned! I was just doing some work in a moodle so quickly grabbed the same YouTube embed code and verfied that the same thing happens in Moodle on it's own e.g. captions fine in IE but only show when hovering over the clip in Chrome. Didn't try with another YouTube clip though but I doubt it's the clip iteself. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I?m relatively new to Xerte and have > been finding the discussions here very helpful. > > ?Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andrew.P.Smith at warwick.ac.uk Sat Aug 9 13:23:26 2014 From: Andrew.P.Smith at warwick.ac.uk (Smith, Andrew) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 12:23:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A34077B-3FA9-4898-8BCB-AE37D080FAE9@warwick.ac.uk> Our problem is not accessing content from our own Moodle, it is being able to give access to an agreed number of users for a fixed length of time in someone else's Moodle, so we need to give them a resource link that we can authenticate and control from the tool end. We have been looking for this type of solution for a while, experimenting with proxy server access to out course materials, but it looks as if IMS LTI is the solution and new standard other people are now using. I would have thought that the latest version of XOT would have been LTI compatible and provide the necessary interface to manage such resources in this way. Can I confirm if this has been implemented or even considered? It appears to be the way the market is heading. Kind regards. Andrew Andrew P Smith Technology Officer Centre for Applied Linguistics University of Warwick Gibbet Hill Coventry CV4 7AL andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk Direct Line +44 2476528440 Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > On 9 Aug 2014, at 12:07, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" wrote: > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Smith, Bradley) > 2. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Pat L (pgogy)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:51:53 -0400 > From: "Smith, Bradley" > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > >> On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that directly in Moodle > > Do you mean just add it as a ?url? resource in Moodle, or something more complex? > > What?s the advantage to doing it the IMS LTI way? > > Thanks to everyone on this thread. I?m relatively new to Xerte and have been finding the discussions here very helpful. > > ?Brad > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 455 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:38:41 +0100 > From: "Pat L (pgogy)" > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > LTI gives you some benefits - user details can be sent via the link and > authentication and so on > > > >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Smith, Bradley wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that >> directly in Moodle >> >> >> Do you mean just add it as a ?url? resource in Moodle, or something more >> complex? >> >> What?s the advantage to doing it the IMS LTI way? >> >> Thanks to everyone on this thread. I?m relatively new to Xerte and have >> been finding the discussions here very helpful. >> >> ?Brad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 > ************************************* > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From ashbrix at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 16:56:56 2014 From: ashbrix at gmail.com (Rick Ashby) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:56:56 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-forking-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > >> I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we >> have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using >> powerpoint to create this sort of thing: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 >> >> >> >> I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get >> right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and >> efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? >> >> >> >> What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this >> sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture >> of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process >> for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s >> more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. >> >> >> >> Ideas? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. 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Recording narration- Audacity Video Editing- Windows Movie Maker (I'll be trying Open Shot for my next video) File conversion- winff On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > In terms of ease of use, this is what I?m thinking: > > > > - Powerpoint or something is used to draw the graphics. A > background, and items that can move; > > - The presenter talks through the content and creates the > animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate > to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves > etc); > > - Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast / > move slow > > - Some sort of screen recording is made to capture the video of > the presentation; > > > > Does it sound like it might work? > > > > Does that work with your real world use cases? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught > *Sent:* 04 July 2014 14:30 > *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte discussion list > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > If it was easy for end user it would be great > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy) > *Sent:* 04 July 2014 13:13 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Would an animated gif maker be a good template? > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > > From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by > > ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page > dimensions) > > ? drawing the first frame > > ? duplicating the slide > > ? making the small changes needed for the second frame > > ? duplicating the second frame > > ? repeating > > ? save finished presentation as gifs > > ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no > admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. > > ? Save as animated gif. > > ? Add to any relevant Xerte page > > > > There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is > really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion > skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see > slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach > transect process is illustrated. > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then > add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a > predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to > tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do > something like that... > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 > > To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation > > > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we > have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using > powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture > of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process > for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s > more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > > > Ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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SC043946. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -- Visit my "Linked In," profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12702 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sat Aug 9 20:01:07 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:01:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get your ideas, as we are still at early stages ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby [ashbrix at gmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-forking-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: Maybe Popcorn? https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ Could make a popcorn module? On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. Ideas? Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -- Visit my "Linked In," profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sat Aug 9 21:09:31 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:09:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-forking-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From john at southcom.com.au Sun Aug 10 07:11:06 2014 From: john at southcom.com.au (John Doubleday) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:11:06 +1000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <53B693AF.2020703@gmail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <53B693AF.2020703@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi All, this thread is so long I have lost the beginning, but have just come across the use of Prezie and any video editing software to create an interesting 'animation' In this case *PREZIE AND CAMTASIA AND SCREENCAST * Lay it where Childhoood's dreams are twined In Memory's mystic band, Like pilgrim's wither'd wreath of flowers Pluck'd in far-off lands. Digital Teacher-Super Tech On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, John Bijnens wrote: > Thanks for sharing. > Very interesting. I hadn't thought about using software like Photoscape or > UnFreez to determine the frame delays. > Great idea. > > Best regards, > > John Bijnens > > On 4/07/2014 12:44, Alistair McNaught wrote: > > From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by > > ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page > dimensions) > > ? drawing the first frame > > ? duplicating the slide > > ? making the small changes needed for the second frame > > ? duplicating the second frame > > ? repeating > > ? save finished presentation as gifs > > ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no > admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. > > ? Save as animated gif. > > ? Add to any relevant Xerte page > > > > There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is > really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion > skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see > slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach > transect process is illustrated. > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then > add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a > predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to > tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do > something like that... > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 > > To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation > > > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we > have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using > powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? 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Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? 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From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Does this folder exist: C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not seem to be happening. Help! From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query It appears not! How do I get it? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Does this folder exist: C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not seem to be happening. Help! From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Does this folder exist: C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not seem to be happening. Help! From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From shirinypom at hotmail.com Sun Aug 10 16:18:52 2014 From: shirinypom at hotmail.com (Shirin Pomeroy) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:18:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , ,,, , ,,,,,,, ,,,,, , , , , , , , Message-ID: I'm in and progressing, however, I've got to the attached page of the installation and wondered if I needed to worry about the flags. I can't seem to find a way to change them so I've come to a standstill again. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:58:52 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Check your drive for the xertetoolkits folder and see if it wound up somewhere else. Or re-follow the XOT zip download instructions from: "Accept the download by clicking on ?save?, then opt to save it to ?c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\?" onward From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query It appears not! How do I get it? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Does this folder exist: C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not seem to be happening. Help! From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:58:52 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Check your drive for the xertetoolkits folder and see if it wound up somewhere else. Or re-follow the XOT zip download instructions from: "Accept the download by clicking on ?save?, then opt to save it to ?c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\?" onward From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query It appears not! How do I get it? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Does this folder exist: C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not seem to be happening. Help! From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What doeshttp://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions?Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission.Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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I just came across it a few days ago. https://www.google.com/webdesigner/ On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Smith, John wrote: > I would be very surprised if there wasn't already (or in the pipeline) an > html5 editor and engine to rival what flash can do. Or it would make a good > github project that i think would attract developers. > > Regards > > John Smith > Learning Technologist > School of Health and Life Sciences > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > It would be an interesting project to build a simple but powerful > animation tool. I nearly did it with the drawing tools, because it struck > me that you have all the xml info to create graphics, so why not add a > timeline... > > ...but that seemed like a lot of work at the time. I reckon you could do > something easily enough using imported graphics and transitions for move / > scale / etc. I think the trick would be the FWS test. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 07 July 2014 10:08 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Hi, > > I don't disagree with Julian that Flash etc still often have their place > within the Xerte LO development cycle and some users (Alistair and Ron are > definitely near if not at the top of that list) are very innovative in > their use of different packages to create something to enhance the user > experience but I definitely agree with Ron's point that something that > allowed 'simple' animation would be a useful feature, especially for those > without Flash experience and who dislike PPT. What that looks like or how > complicated it gets i don't know yet... > > I think my bugbear with alternative solutions is that you then have to > somehow manage the support files. It's like PDFs - it's a regular occurance > that people lose the original Word doc and although there are good > converters back to Word, none are perfect and I doubt they ever will be... > it's the same when you start using support Flash files, PPTs, etc that then > get lost and need to be recreated. > > I also like the simple 'updatability' of some of the pages in Xerte. Some > could equally argue that the Table and Chart pages in Xerte are pointless > (other than for backward compatibility). You can create better looking > tables/charts in Excel, take a screenshot and import that but when you come > to add the latest year's data then you have to do it again... the benefits > with Xerte are that you just add a new line... > > People will always navigate towards tools that they know they can make > work in the time they have - I don't think that's a problem but could we > make it easier for those who have no experience of any package? > > Regards, > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 07 July 2014 09:35 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a > movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does > work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user > interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and > linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple > choice etc. > > I get that, but this is a non-technical user who has done something pretty > decent, and I don?t want to start pointing out shortcomings ? what I was > asking was about how to do this easily / more easily because I suspect his > process may be ?non-optimum? in that it is taken significant time to put > together. I wondered if there were any tools / approaches that makes this > quick and easy ? I can talk to him more about xerte and interactivity > separately, but there is a place for movies, obviously, and this is about > finding efficient ways to make them. > > Personally I?d use Flash, import a narration, and then animate on the > timeline to synch it all up, and then export a movie and run it through > format factory. What would be good would be a simpler timeline based > animation tool I suppose, or perhaps Flash is pretty good for this sort of > thing. The idea of doing it in ppt gives me the willies. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 July 2014 11:19 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Viewed this thread with interest at an event on Friday but no time to > respond until now. I'd add the following comments? > > Creating this sort of narrated and sequenced animation is a common reason > people say they prefer other tools like Captivate or Storyline or even > Camtasia Studio. Obviously we all know that these can be used together with > Xerte and no single tool does everything and obviously cost and arguably > the specialist skills required mean these tools aren't the option for the > majority. > > That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a > movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does > work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user > interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and > linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple > choice etc. > > Converting the PowerPoint with a tool like iSpring Pro does offer > potential for interaction and obviously these days the converted animation > can be html rather than Flash but because the output is multiple files and > sub folders can't easily be uploaded via XOT and needs to be uploaded > somewhere first. The same applies to creating this sort of thing direct in > Articulate Storyline or Captivate or similar. I've often thought it would > be good to upload and extract zip files via media and quota to make this > sort of use with output from other tools easier. But I guess there could be > security risks to that too and perhaps challenges with export. There's > quite a few different examples in the http://learningmathsonline.ac.uk > stuff. > > In my experience not everyone likes or takes to the custom animation > settings etc in PowerPoint but another way to do this depending on the > animation required is to add all the elements around the edges of a slide > and then use a tool like screencast-o-matic or screenr to record the > 'stage' area of the slide while you drag the elements onto the recorded > area e.g. for creating common craft style explanations. > > If the author has a tablet then apps like Explain Everything or Doceri or > the myriad of other annotation or animation apps provide loads of options > arguably much quicker and more flexible than PowerPoint and are very low > cost or free compared with desktop or online apps. e.g. > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_36?template_id=html5&_36#resume=2 > > It would be good even to just have some simple sequenced transition > effects in Xerte but if there were a way to strike the right balance > between ease of use and flexibility within Xerte itself it would add even > more value to the new editor features where adding mutiple images/graphics > to a page is so easy. > > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 04 July 2014 20:11 > To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte > discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Well if we were talking about cakes and icing I?d go for both options ? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) > Sent: 04 July 2014 15:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > recording and saving directly? Or uploaded MP3? > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> > wrote: > In terms of ease of use, this is what I?m thinking: > > > - Powerpoint or something is used to draw the graphics. A > background, and items that can move; > > - The presenter talks through the content and creates the > animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate > to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves > etc); > > - Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast / move > slow > > - Some sort of screen recording is made to capture the video of > the presentation; > > Does it sound like it might work? > > Does that work with your real world use cases? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 04 July 2014 14:30 > To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte > discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > If it was easy for end user it would be great > > A > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) > Sent: 04 July 2014 13:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Would an animated gif maker be a good template? > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> > wrote: > > From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by > > ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page > dimensions) > > ? drawing the first frame > > ? duplicating the slide > > ? making the small changes needed for the second frame > > ? duplicating the second frame > > ? repeating > > ? save finished presentation as gifs > > ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no > admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. > > ? Save as animated gif. > > ? Add to any relevant Xerte page > > > > There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is > really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion > skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see > slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach > transect process is illustrated. > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF99C6.840F18F0] > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then > add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a > predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to > tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do > something like that... > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk> where one of the School Learning Technologists will > pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly > as possible. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 > > To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>) > > Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation > > > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we > have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using > powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture > of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process > for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s > more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > > > Ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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URL: From ashbrix at gmail.com Sun Aug 10 16:55:17 2014 From: ashbrix at gmail.com (Rick Ashby) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E53A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD1EF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD237@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I love this idea. I've thought of doing a similar thing with high school students akin to forensic and debate tournaments only presented as multimedia rather than oratory. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > For years I?ve wanted to run a ?content creation circus? based around > exactly that idea? > > > > Get a bunch of creative people with a very varied range of technical > skills and set them some challenges - a bit like scrapheap challenge. They > could use any tools they wanted to provided they were free/open source. > They would have between one and two hours to create a learning resource. > The most valuable aspect of the circus wouldn't be the diverse range of > learning resources at the end of the session but it would be the commentary > that the performers gave as to why they chose to approach of the way they > did and how those choices contributed to the pedagogical approaches, > differentiation and skills development that the learner would experience in > the final learning activity. > > > > All I lacked was a budget J > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 11:00 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > > than it is to tweak lots of individual frame timings to fit the audio > > In powerpoint, yes, but not on a timeline. I?d much rather animate to the > narration. Maybe we should have a race! Actually thyat might be fun: take a > general subject like the water cycle and see which approaches work best? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 10:41 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I guess it depends on personal preference as well as context. My gut > reaction would be to create the animation first and then narrate it live > because it is considerably easier to add a pause or to speak a little > faster/slower where needed than it is to tweak lots of individual frame > timings to fit the audio. > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 10:30 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > > I?d want to see the assembly of the animation as a separate activity. > > > > Do you fit the animation to the recorded narration, or do you try and time > your narration to fir the animation? i.e. Record narration first, then > animate - or other way round? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught > *Sent:* 04 July 2014 15:42 > *To:* Xerte discussion list; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > - The presenter talks through the content and creates the > animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate > to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves > etc) > > > > That?s the bit I don?t really get. Whilst you are narrating you don?t want > to be fiddling around dragging in the next bit. I?d want to see the > assembly of the animation as a separate activity. Once it?s assembled and > working nicely then by all means narrate like the existing audio slideshow. > Animated gifs can be great but better still is something that allows a > control bar because you want to give the user the chance to pause and make > notes or reflect ? its also good accessibility practice.. > > > > - Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast / > move slow > Yes, they would be great. I think we need to be realistic about the sort > of things a user would need to take on board though. They?d need to think > about stacking order, frame delay, transparency etc. These aren?t concepts > everyone would be familiar with initially but if the tool was easy enough > to use maybe they could get it. > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught > *Sent:* 04 July 2014 14:30 > *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > If it was easy for end user it would be great > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy) > *Sent:* 04 July 2014 13:13 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Would an animated gif maker be a good template? > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > > From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by > > ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page > dimensions) > > ? drawing the first frame > > ? duplicating the slide > > ? making the small changes needed for the second frame > > ? duplicating the second frame > > ? repeating > > ? save finished presentation as gifs > > ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no > admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. > > ? Save as animated gif. > > ? Add to any relevant Xerte page > > > > There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is > really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion > skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see > slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach > transect process is illustrated. > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John > Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then > add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a > predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to > tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do > something like that... > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 > > To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation > > > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we > have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using > powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture > of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process > for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s > more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > > > Ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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I hadn't thought about using software like Photoscape >> or UnFreez to determine the frame delays. >> Great idea. >> >> Best regards, >> >> John Bijnens >> >> On 4/07/2014 12:44, Alistair McNaught wrote: >> >> From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by >> >> ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page >> dimensions) >> >> ? drawing the first frame >> >> ? duplicating the slide >> >> ? making the small changes needed for the second frame >> >> ? duplicating the second frame >> >> ? repeating >> >> ? save finished presentation as gifs >> >> ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no >> admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. >> >> ? Save as animated gif. >> >> ? Add to any relevant Xerte page >> >> >> >> There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is >> really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion >> skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see >> slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach >> transect process is illustrated. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] On Behalf Of Smith, John >> Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation >> >> >> >> I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then >> add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a >> predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to >> tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do >> something like that... >> >> >> >> John Smith | Learning Technologist >> >> Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | >> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA >> >> >> >> Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the >> School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that >> all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ >> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> >> Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation >> >> >> >> I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we >> have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using >> powerpoint to create this sort of thing: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 >> >> >> >> I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get >> right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and >> efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? >> >> >> >> What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this >> sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture >> of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process >> for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s >> more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. >> >> >> >> Ideas? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. 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I guess I am > looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions > and this does not seem to be happening. > > Help! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > > > OK, different error message than first reported. > > What does > http://localhost/ > give you? > > or > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: shirinypom at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > Thanks - very prompt! > I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be > shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and > ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is > not working it seems as per below: > > > Object not found! > The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the > referring page seems > to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page > about the error. > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster > . > > > Error 404 > > localhost > Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 > > Any other suggestions? > > Regards Shirin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > > I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission. > Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: shirinypom at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query > > Hi there > > Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my > laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I > was nearly there it seems the setup page > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me > to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? > > Regards Shirin > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Tom Reijnders schreef op 10-8-2014 18:18: > Where did you put xerte (in what folder?) and in what folder did you > put xampp? > > Shirin Pomeroy schreef op 10-8-2014 16:17: >> The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second >> generates the same error page as previously reported. I guess I am >> looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions >> and this does not seem to be happening. >> >> Help! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query >> >> >> >> OK, different error message than first reported. >> >> What does >> http://localhost/ >> give you? >> >> or >> http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: shirinypom at hotmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query >> >> Thanks - very prompt! >> I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be >> shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and >> ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is >> not working it seems as per below: >> >> >> Object not found! >> The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the >> referring page >> seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page >> about the error. >> If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster >> . >> >> >> Error 404 >> >> localhost >> Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 >> >> Any other suggestions? >> >> Regards Shirin >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query >> >> >> I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission. >> Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: shirinypom at hotmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query >> >> Hi there >> >> Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my >> laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I >> was nearly there it seems the setup page >> http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me >> to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? >> >> Regards Shirin >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the >> views of the University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ashbrix at gmail.com Sun Aug 10 17:34:11 2014 From: ashbrix at gmail.com (Rick Ashby) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:34:11 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD279@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD2AC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD31F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D909BD33A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The quality and style of narration plays a huge role in establishing the ethos of a presentation. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > > Why does the animation need audio? > > > > As the Zen saying goes > > > > ?Sometimes it doesn?t but sometimes it does? > > > > The problem is that on the occasions when the animation DOES benefit from > narration it is essential the two are in synch otherwise you can add > confusion. > > > > From an accessibility point of view being able to pause both animation and > narration on demand is very helpful. That?s why ? although I use animated > gifs in some LOs they tend not to be very complicated so I?ve never needed > to put narration alongside. > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat L (pgogy) > > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 13:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Animation makes a gif, you can add an MP3 alongside the gif if you like > > > > Why does the animation need audio? > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > > The existing SynchVideo page can do some really useful stuff with creative > tutors but the current timeline process is a bit clunky so any improvements > or evolutions of that page type would be great. > > > > A > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 12:57 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Maybe the idea we have for the video lesson template might be a starting > point: the idea is that we have timeline media (video / audio) and then you > can add further content in different panes on the screen, and then add > elements to those panes, and then do stuff with them ? like animate a > graphic from one place to another for example. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Alistair McNaught > *Sent:* 07 July 2014 12:54 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I guess it's all to do with matching ambition to competence. > > > > People with modest ambitions can be encouraged to fulfil those ambitions > with the competencies they already have. I could use PowerPoint with photos > scape/unfreeze to create water cycles, simple plate tectonics, ozone > creation/destruction, simple lab and field techniques etc. None of them > would be interactive, just simple linear animations showing the steps > involved. For a lot of tutors that would be an exciting stage beyond where > they currently are using little more than the skills they already have. > > > > Once you begin to move beyond modest ambitions the "time consuming at the > best of times" penalty becomes much more significant and time would be > better invested in learning to use a proper tool. > > > > One of the joys of Xerte toolkits is that it spans that whole spectrum, > allowing people with modest IT skills to create much more ambitious > learning objects than they would have expected, yet still allowing very > competent developers to create even more ambitious resources. > > > > From my perspective the ideal "inbuilt" animation tool within toolkits > would be oriented at helping the technically modest achieve something they > wouldn't have expected to achieve. To this end, possibly a better way of > thinking about an animation tool would be to consider pedagogical > scenarios. This might be as simple as > > ? building up a complex diagram element by element (and elements > may include labels) > > ? deconstructing a diagram element by element > > ? creating simple object paths with auto tweening > > The technically competent would already have a wide range of tools and > preferences open to them so focusing on the less competent would be a > benefit for usability. > > > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 07 July 2014 12:36 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Fair enough. > > > > But if you've got time to do animation, you've got time to learn some > decent tools to do it efficiently, because it's time consuming at the best > of times, and I'd hate people to be doing all that fiddling about in > PowerPoint when they could be using a timeline. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > > Sent: 07 July 2014 12:29 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Looks brilliant but not for the fainthearted and not for doing something > quick and simple - a tutor would need familiarity with layers, masks, > timelines, nested timelines, paths etc. For simple stuff like the Fieldwork > LO quoted earlier in the thread it would be overkill. > > > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 07 July 2014 11:46 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > http://animatron.com/ > > > > This is fairly close to what I had in mind. Not sure how easy it is to use > in reality though. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 07 July 2014 11:28 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > A visual editor for CreateJS. It doesn't see there is one already. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 07 July 2014 10:45 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I would be very surprised if there wasn't already (or in the pipeline) an > html5 editor and engine to rival what flash can do. Or it would make a good > github project that i think would attract developers. > > > > Regards > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health and Life Sciences > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII > > > > > > Julian Tenney wrote: > > > > > > It would be an interesting project to build a simple but powerful > animation tool. I nearly did it with the drawing tools, because it struck > me that you have all the xml info to create graphics, so why not add a > timeline... > > > > ...but that seemed like a lot of work at the time. I reckon you could do > something easily enough using imported graphics and transitions for move / > scale / etc. I think the trick would be the FWS test. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 07 July 2014 10:08 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Hi, > > > > I don't disagree with Julian that Flash etc still often have their place > within the Xerte LO development cycle and some users (Alistair and Ron are > definitely near if not at the top of that list) are very innovative in > their use of different packages to create something to enhance the user > experience but I definitely agree with Ron's point that something that > allowed 'simple' animation would be a useful feature, especially for those > without Flash experience and who dislike PPT. What that looks like or how > complicated it gets i don't know yet... > > > > I think my bugbear with alternative solutions is that you then have to > somehow manage the support files. It's like PDFs - it's a regular occurance > that people lose the original Word doc and although there are good > converters back to Word, none are perfect and I doubt they ever will be... > it's the same when you start using support Flash files, PPTs, etc that then > get lost and need to be recreated. > > > > I also like the simple 'updatability' of some of the pages in Xerte. Some > could equally argue that the Table and Chart pages in Xerte are pointless > (other than for backward compatibility). You can create better looking > tables/charts in Excel, take a screenshot and import that but when you come > to add the latest year's data then you have to do it again... the benefits > with Xerte are that you just add a new line... > > > > People will always navigate towards tools that they know they can make > work in the time they have - I don't think that's a problem but could we > make it easier for those who have no experience of any package? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the > School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that > all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > > Sent: 07 July 2014 09:35 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > > That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a > movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does > work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user > interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and > linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple > choice etc. > > > > I get that, but this is a non-technical user who has done something pretty > decent, and I don?t want to start pointing out shortcomings ? what I was > asking was about how to do this easily / more easily because I suspect his > process may be ?non-optimum? in that it is taken significant time to put > together. I wondered if there were any tools / approaches that makes this > quick and easy ? I can talk to him more about xerte and interactivity > separately, but there is a place for movies, obviously, and this is about > finding efficient ways to make them. > > > > Personally I?d use Flash, import a narration, and then animate on the > timeline to synch it all up, and then export a movie and run it through > format factory. What would be good would be a simpler timeline based > animation tool I suppose, or perhaps Flash is pretty good for this sort of > thing. The idea of doing it in ppt gives me the willies. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 06 July 2014 11:19 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Viewed this thread with interest at an event on Friday but no time to > respond until now. I'd add the following comments? > > > > Creating this sort of narrated and sequenced animation is a common reason > people say they prefer other tools like Captivate or Storyline or even > Camtasia Studio. Obviously we all know that these can be used together with > Xerte and no single tool does everything and obviously cost and arguably > the specialist skills required mean these tools aren't the option for the > majority. > > > > That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a > movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does > work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user > interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and > linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple > choice etc. > > > > Converting the PowerPoint with a tool like iSpring Pro does offer > potential for interaction and obviously these days the converted animation > can be html rather than Flash but because the output is multiple files and > sub folders can't easily be uploaded via XOT and needs to be uploaded > somewhere first. The same applies to creating this sort of thing direct in > Articulate Storyline or Captivate or similar. I've often thought it would > be good to upload and extract zip files via media and quota to make this > sort of use with output from other tools easier. But I guess there could be > security risks to that too and perhaps challenges with export. There's > quite a few different examples in the http://learningmathsonline.ac.uk > stuff. > > > > In my experience not everyone likes or takes to the custom animation > settings etc in PowerPoint but another way to do this depending on the > animation required is to add all the elements around the edges of a slide > and then use a tool like screencast-o-matic or screenr to record the > 'stage' area of the slide while you drag the elements onto the recorded > area e.g. for creating common craft style explanations. > > > > If the author has a tablet then apps like Explain Everything or Doceri or > the myriad of other annotation or animation apps provide loads of options > arguably much quicker and more flexible than PowerPoint and are very low > cost or free compared with desktop or online apps. e.g. > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_36?template_id=html5&_36#resume=2 > > > > It would be good even to just have some simple sequenced transition > effects in Xerte but if there were a way to strike the right balance > between ease of use and flexibility within Xerte itself it would add even > more value to the new editor features where adding mutiple images/graphics > to a page is so easy. > > > > Ron > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > > Sent: 04 July 2014 20:11 > > To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte > discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Well if we were talking about cakes and icing I?d go for both options ? > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) > > Sent: 04 July 2014 15:46 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > recording and saving directly? Or uploaded MP3? > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> > wrote: > > In terms of ease of use, this is what I?m thinking: > > > > > > - Powerpoint or something is used to draw the graphics. A > background, and items that can move; > > > > - The presenter talks through the content and creates the > animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate > to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves > etc); > > > > - Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast / move > slow > > > > - Some sort of screen recording is made to capture the video of > the presentation; > > > > Does it sound like it might work? > > > > Does that work with your real world use cases? > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] > On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > > Sent: 04 July 2014 14:30 > > To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; Xerte > discussion list > > > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > If it was easy for end user it would be great > > > > A > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) > > Sent: 04 July 2014 13:13 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > Would an animated gif maker be a good template? > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> > wrote: > > > > From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by > > > > ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page > dimensions) > > > > ? drawing the first frame > > > > ? duplicating the slide > > > > ? making the small changes needed for the second frame > > > > ? duplicating the second frame > > > > ? repeating > > > > ? save finished presentation as gifs > > > > ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no > admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. > > > > ? Save as animated gif. > > > > ? Add to any relevant Xerte page > > > > > > > > There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is > really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion > skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see > slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach > transect process is illustrated. > > > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF99C6.840F18F0] > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] > On Behalf Of Smith, John > > Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > > > > > I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then > add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a > predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to > tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do > something like that... > > > > > > > > John Smith | Learning Technologist > > > > Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | > Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA > > > > > > > > Please address ALL support requests to > hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School > Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs > are completed as promptly as possible. > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk< > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [ > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >] > > > > Sent: 04 July 2014 09:48 > > > > To: Xerte discussion list ( > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > > > > Subject: [Xerte] Creating Animation > > > > > > > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: we > have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s currently using > powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture > of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process > for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s > more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > > > > > > > Ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query OK, different error message than first reported. What does http://localhost/ give you? or http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query Thanks - very prompt! I think I'm all good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready. I'm getting the error message that the host website is not working it seems as per below: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404 localhost Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11 Any other suggestions? Regards Shirin From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission. Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? From: shirinypom at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query Hi there Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? Regards Shirin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From antonio_vieira_1008 at yahoo.com.br Mon Aug 11 03:58:14 2014 From: antonio_vieira_1008 at yahoo.com.br (Antonio Vieira) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:58:14 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query In-Reply-To: <53E79BCD.8060406@tor.nl> References: , , , , , , <53E79B71.8030006@tor.nl> <53E79BCD.8060406@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1407725894.9990.YahooMailNeo@web125105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thank you for never having answered my questions and helped the difficulties with this program. Em Domingo, 10 de Agosto de 2014 13:21, Tom Reijnders escreveu: Sorry (I was too quick), just ignore my previous (and this) message. Tom Reijnders schreef op 10-8-2014 18:18: Where did you put xerte (in what folder?) and in what folder did you put xampp? Shirin Pomeroy schreef op 10-8-2014 16:17: >The first takes me to the welcome page for Xampp, and the second generates the same?error page as previously reported. I guess I?am looking for the Xerte online installer page as per the instructions and this does not?seem to be happening. >? >Help!? >? > > >________________________________ >From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com >To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:09:59 -0400 >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > > > > > >OK, different error message than first reported. > > >What does >http://localhost/ >give you?? > > >or? >http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/page1.gif > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ >From: shirinypom at hotmail.com >To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:57:28 +0000 >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > >Thanks - very prompt! >I think I'm all?good with the relevant permissions but happy to be shown otherwise. According to Xampp control Apache is all set and ready.?I'm getting the error message that the host website is not?working?it seems as per below: >? >? >Object not found! >The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. >If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > >Error 404 >localhost >Apache/2.4.9 (Win32) OpenSSL/1.0.1g PHP/5.5.11? > >Any other suggestions? >Regards Shirin >? > >________________________________ >From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com >To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:43:33 -0400 >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Local installation query > > > > >I think Apache throws that error when something is missing a permission. >Did you set all the relevant execute permissions? > > > > > >________________________________ >From: shirinypom at hotmail.com >To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:29 +0000 >Subject: [Xerte] Local installation query > > >Hi there >? >Thought I was doing well to download the relevant software etc to my laptop and following your website instructions. Just when I thought I was nearly there it seems the setup page http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup?is currently unavailable for me to get through the last hurdle. Is this a long term or short term issue? >? >Regards Shirin > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 09:39:02 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:39:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <4A34077B-3FA9-4898-8BCB-AE37D080FAE9@warwick.ac.uk> References: <4A34077B-3FA9-4898-8BCB-AE37D080FAE9@warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C905@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you use 'other' as the access setting, you can set a url, i.e. http://moodle.nottingham.ac.uk as the referring domain. Only links clicked from this domain are able to see the content in toolkits - so you can already control this from toolkits, although perhaps not as gracefully as you'd like? When you want to prevent access - at the end of a course - then you can make it private again. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Andrew Sent: 09 August 2014 13:23 To: Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 Our problem is not accessing content from our own Moodle, it is being able to give access to an agreed number of users for a fixed length of time in someone else's Moodle, so we need to give them a resource link that we can authenticate and control from the tool end. We have been looking for this type of solution for a while, experimenting with proxy server access to out course materials, but it looks as if IMS LTI is the solution and new standard other people are now using. I would have thought that the latest version of XOT would have been LTI compatible and provide the necessary interface to manage such resources in this way. Can I confirm if this has been implemented or even considered? It appears to be the way the market is heading. Kind regards. Andrew Andrew P Smith Technology Officer Centre for Applied Linguistics University of Warwick Gibbet Hill Coventry CV4 7AL andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk Direct Line +44 2476528440 Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > On 9 Aug 2014, at 12:07, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" wrote: > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Smith, Bradley) > 2. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Pat L (pgogy)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:51:53 -0400 > From: "Smith, Bradley" > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > >> On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that >> directly in Moodle > > Do you mean just add it as a ?url? resource in Moodle, or something more complex? > > What?s the advantage to doing it the IMS LTI way? > > Thanks to everyone on this thread. I?m relatively new to Xerte and have been finding the discussions here very helpful. > > ?Brad > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > 726f57/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 455 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: > 726f57/attachment-0001.bin> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:38:41 +0100 > From: "Pat L (pgogy)" > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > LTI gives you some benefits - user details can be sent via the link > and authentication and so on > > > >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Smith, Bradley wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney >> >> wrote: >> >> It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that >> directly in Moodle >> >> >> Do you mean just add it as a ?url? resource in Moodle, or something >> more complex? >> >> What?s the advantage to doing it the IMS LTI way? >> >> Thanks to everyone on this thread. I?m relatively new to Xerte and >> have been finding the discussions here very helpful. >> >> ?Brad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > d5a8c2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 > ************************************* > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 09:55:22 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:55:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 10:00:43 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:00:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C939@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Google web designer looks interesting. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby Sent: 10 August 2014 16:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Google Web Designer is an interesting new addition to this arena. I just came across it a few days ago. https://www.google.com/webdesigner/ On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Smith, John > wrote: I would be very surprised if there wasn't already (or in the pipeline) an html5 editor and engine to rival what flash can do. Or it would make a good github project that i think would attract developers. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Julian Tenney > wrote: It would be an interesting project to build a simple but powerful animation tool. I nearly did it with the drawing tools, because it struck me that you have all the xml info to create graphics, so why not add a timeline... ...but that seemed like a lot of work at the time. I reckon you could do something easily enough using imported graphics and transitions for move / scale / etc. I think the trick would be the FWS test. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 07 July 2014 10:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Hi, I don't disagree with Julian that Flash etc still often have their place within the Xerte LO development cycle and some users (Alistair and Ron are definitely near if not at the top of that list) are very innovative in their use of different packages to create something to enhance the user experience but I definitely agree with Ron's point that something that allowed 'simple' animation would be a useful feature, especially for those without Flash experience and who dislike PPT. What that looks like or how complicated it gets i don't know yet... I think my bugbear with alternative solutions is that you then have to somehow manage the support files. It's like PDFs - it's a regular occurance that people lose the original Word doc and although there are good converters back to Word, none are perfect and I doubt they ever will be... it's the same when you start using support Flash files, PPTs, etc that then get lost and need to be recreated. I also like the simple 'updatability' of some of the pages in Xerte. Some could equally argue that the Table and Chart pages in Xerte are pointless (other than for backward compatibility). You can create better looking tables/charts in Excel, take a screenshot and import that but when you come to add the latest year's data then you have to do it again... the benefits with Xerte are that you just add a new line... People will always navigate towards tools that they know they can make work in the time they have - I don't think that's a problem but could we make it easier for those who have no experience of any package? Regards, John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 07 July 2014 09:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple choice etc. I get that, but this is a non-technical user who has done something pretty decent, and I don?t want to start pointing out shortcomings ? what I was asking was about how to do this easily / more easily because I suspect his process may be ?non-optimum? in that it is taken significant time to put together. I wondered if there were any tools / approaches that makes this quick and easy ? I can talk to him more about xerte and interactivity separately, but there is a place for movies, obviously, and this is about finding efficient ways to make them. Personally I?d use Flash, import a narration, and then animate on the timeline to synch it all up, and then export a movie and run it through format factory. What would be good would be a simpler timeline based animation tool I suppose, or perhaps Flash is pretty good for this sort of thing. The idea of doing it in ppt gives me the willies. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 July 2014 11:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Viewed this thread with interest at an event on Friday but no time to respond until now. I'd add the following comments? Creating this sort of narrated and sequenced animation is a common reason people say they prefer other tools like Captivate or Storyline or even Camtasia Studio. Obviously we all know that these can be used together with Xerte and no single tool does everything and obviously cost and arguably the specialist skills required mean these tools aren't the option for the majority. That kind of animation from Nottingham done in PowerPoint, saved as a movie and then converted to mp4 or uploaded to a streaming service does work very well but obviously there isn't really any potential for user interaction via that route unless perhaps keeping the movies granular and linking to different next steps based on user choice via links or multiple choice etc. Converting the PowerPoint with a tool like iSpring Pro does offer potential for interaction and obviously these days the converted animation can be html rather than Flash but because the output is multiple files and sub folders can't easily be uploaded via XOT and needs to be uploaded somewhere first. The same applies to creating this sort of thing direct in Articulate Storyline or Captivate or similar. I've often thought it would be good to upload and extract zip files via media and quota to make this sort of use with output from other tools easier. But I guess there could be security risks to that too and perhaps challenges with export. There's quite a few different examples in the http://learningmathsonline.ac.uk stuff. In my experience not everyone likes or takes to the custom animation settings etc in PowerPoint but another way to do this depending on the animation required is to add all the elements around the edges of a slide and then use a tool like screencast-o-matic or screenr to record the 'stage' area of the slide while you drag the elements onto the recorded area e.g. for creating common craft style explanations. If the author has a tablet then apps like Explain Everything or Doceri or the myriad of other annotation or animation apps provide loads of options arguably much quicker and more flexible than PowerPoint and are very low cost or free compared with desktop or online apps. e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_36?template_id=html5&_36#resume=2 It would be good even to just have some simple sequenced transition effects in Xerte but if there were a way to strike the right balance between ease of use and flexibility within Xerte itself it would add even more value to the new editor features where adding mutiple images/graphics to a page is so easy. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 July 2014 20:11 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Well if we were talking about cakes and icing I?d go for both options ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 04 July 2014 15:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation recording and saving directly? Or uploaded MP3? On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: In terms of ease of use, this is what I?m thinking: - Powerpoint or something is used to draw the graphics. A background, and items that can move; - The presenter talks through the content and creates the animation live, either by dragging things around, or having things animate to where the mouse is clicked (click object -> click screen -> object moves etc); - Maybe some other actions like scale / vanish / move fast / move slow - Some sort of screen recording is made to capture the video of the presentation; Does it sound like it might work? Does that work with your real world use cases? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 July 2014 14:30 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation If it was easy for end user it would be great A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy) Sent: 04 July 2014 13:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Would an animated gif maker be a good template? On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alistair McNaught >> wrote: From a non technical viewpoint I do this sort of thing by ? setting up a bespoke PowerPoint slide (maybe 6 x 8 cm page dimensions) ? drawing the first frame ? duplicating the slide ? making the small changes needed for the second frame ? duplicating the second frame ? repeating ? save finished presentation as gifs ? use free tool like Photoscape or UnFreez (both portable so no admin rights needed to install) to determine the frame delays between them. ? Save as animated gif. ? Add to any relevant Xerte page There is real advantage in using PPT to create the frames because it is really familiar to people, flexible and easy to use. It doesn?t allow onion skinning etc but I?ve produced several things using this approach ? see slide 4 of http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_477 where the beach transect process is illustrated. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF99C6.840F18F0] A -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 04 July 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I've often thought that we could use a page type that allows you to then add sub elements (media) each with their own script to control or a predefined script (such as move to the left, etc) and possibly a timer to tell the page when to run the script... shouldn't be that hard to do something like that... John Smith | Learning Technologist Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA Please address ALL support requests to hlsblt at gcu.ac.uk> where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Aug 11 10:18:45 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:18:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 10:21:28 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:21:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 10:43:48 2014 From: Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk (WARD Pauline) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:43:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Oh yes, I've embedded the video in a very simple html page, and the same thing happens i.e. captions are fine in IE and Firefox, but in Chrome they disappear when the embed is not active. Well, I'm guessing there's not much Xerte can do about that. We'll just have to live with it for now. Thanks very much Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 10:57:42 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:57:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm afraid not. I expect it will get fixed at some point, Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of WARD Pauline Sent: 11 August 2014 10:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Oh yes, I've embedded the video in a very simple html page, and the same thing happens i.e. captions are fine in IE and Firefox, but in Chrome they disappear when the embed is not active. Well, I'm guessing there's not much Xerte can do about that. We'll just have to live with it for now. Thanks very much Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Aug 11 11:01:34 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:01:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 11:04:40 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:04:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 11:11:13 2014 From: Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk (WARD Pauline) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0501b44c0cbf47da861e8d100222ca3a@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Yes, hopefully. I've reported it to Google through the YouTube feedback feature, so they definitely know about it now. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 11 August 2014 10:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) I'm afraid not. I expect it will get fixed at some point, Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of WARD Pauline Sent: 11 August 2014 10:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Oh yes, I've embedded the video in a very simple html page, and the same thing happens i.e. captions are fine in IE and Firefox, but in Chrome they disappear when the embed is not active. Well, I'm guessing there's not much Xerte can do about that. We'll just have to live with it for now. Thanks very much Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 11:11:13 2014 From: Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk (WARD Pauline) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0501b44c0cbf47da861e8d100222ca3a@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Yes, hopefully. I've reported it to Google through the YouTube feedback feature, so they definitely know about it now. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 11 August 2014 10:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) I'm afraid not. I expect it will get fixed at some point, Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of WARD Pauline Sent: 11 August 2014 10:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Oh yes, I've embedded the video in a very simple html page, and the same thing happens i.e. captions are fine in IE and Firefox, but in Chrome they disappear when the embed is not active. Well, I'm guessing there's not much Xerte can do about that. We'll just have to live with it for now. Thanks very much Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Aug 11 11:43:26 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:43:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 11:44:29 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:44:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Aug 11 12:15:21 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:15:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with video.js e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just displays a blank screen. I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Aug 11 12:41:17 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:41:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C905@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4A34077B-3FA9-4898-8BCB-AE37D080FAE9@warwick.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C905@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If it was me, I would make a custom play url and add the code into that All of the control and so on. You'd need PHP, but not a lot of it Pat On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > If you use 'other' as the access setting, you can set a url, i.e. > http://moodle.nottingham.ac.uk as the referring domain. Only links > clicked from this domain are able to see the content in toolkits - so you > can already control this from toolkits, although perhaps not as gracefully > as you'd like? When you want to prevent access - at the end of a course - > then you can make it private again. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Andrew > Sent: 09 August 2014 13:23 > To: > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 191, Issue 9 > > Our problem is not accessing content from our own Moodle, it is being able > to give access to an agreed number of users for a fixed length of time in > someone else's Moodle, so we need to give them a resource link that we can > authenticate and control from the tool end. > > We have been looking for this type of solution for a while, experimenting > with proxy server access to out course materials, but it looks as if IMS > LTI is the solution and new standard other people are now using. I would > have thought that the latest version of XOT would have been LTI compatible > and provide the necessary interface to manage such resources in this way. > > Can I confirm if this has been implemented or even considered? It appears > to be the way the market is heading. > > Kind regards. > > Andrew > > Andrew P Smith > Technology Officer > Centre for Applied Linguistics > University of Warwick > Gibbet Hill > Coventry CV4 7AL > andrew.p.smith at warwick.ac.uk > Direct Line +44 2476528440 > Mobile No. +44 7746412190 > > > > On 9 Aug 2014, at 12:07, "xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" < > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Smith, Bradley) > > 2. Re: Xerte and IMS LTI (Pat L (pgogy)) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:51:53 -0400 > > From: "Smith, Bradley" > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and IMS LTI > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > > >> On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >> It's just a lot easier to log into toolkits, grab a url and add that > >> directly in Moodle > > > > Do you mean just add it as a ?url? resource in Moodle, or something more > complex? > > > > What?s the advantage to doing it the IMS LTI way? > > > > Thanks to everyone on this thread. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Aug 11 13:09:42 2014 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat L (pgogy)) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:09:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> Message-ID: is it a mozilla open source no mp4 / mp3 codec issue? On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with > video.js e.g. > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 > > The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool > has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy > enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code > for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 > which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte > example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the > point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on > iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it > were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just > displays a blank screen. > > I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say > stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test > against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, > > Cheers, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can > filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example > https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on > ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which > suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. > Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway > there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the > hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in > Xerte? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on > ipads (I wonder why not then?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being > triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker > displays an incompatibility message on iPad. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, > but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took > over Alice's homework...) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples > don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool > itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for > checking/testing on ipad? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > > Maybe Popcorn? > > > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> > wrote: > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and > efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this > sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture > of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process > for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s > more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > > > Ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 15:02:00 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:02:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CB6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Just to be clear though: we're using mediaelement with popcornJS so that's not using videoJS, right? So it should be OK? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 12:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with video.js e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just displays a blank screen. I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Aug 11 15:30:06 2014 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:30:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CB6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CB6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a901cfb570$c03fb940$40bf2bc0$@co.uk> Yeah sounds like it. Happy to test on iPad, Android and Windows tablets just share links whenever appropriate. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 15:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Just to be clear though: we're using mediaelement with popcornJS so that's not using videoJS, right? So it should be OK? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 12:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with video.js e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just displays a blank screen. I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 11 15:53:37 2014 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:53:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <00a901cfb570$c03fb940$40bf2bc0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CB6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cfb570$c03fb940$40bf2bc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CBCB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK cool, I'd like to get some sort of prototype together soon for comments and ideas, J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Yeah sounds like it. Happy to test on iPad, Android and Windows tablets just share links whenever appropriate. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 15:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Just to be clear though: we're using mediaelement with popcornJS so that's not using videoJS, right? So it should be OK? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 12:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with video.js e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just displays a blank screen. I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, Cheers, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in Xerte? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on ipads (I wonder why not then?) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker displays an incompatibility message on iPad. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took over Alice's homework...) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for checking/testing on ipad? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? Sent from my iPad > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > Maybe Popcorn? > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get right. I?m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others? > > What I?m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this sort of thing? It doesn?t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process for example. We?re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it?s more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do. > > Ideas? > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > -- > Visit my "Linked In," profile: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickashby > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ashbrix at gmail.com Thu Aug 14 17:45:22 2014 From: ashbrix at gmail.com (Rick Ashby) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:45:22 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CBCB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9077E2E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D91D9D96D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C928@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002a01cfb545$41a30f90$c4e92eb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C95C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004001cfb54b$3d7d4bf0$b877e3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007501cfb551$15f267e0$41d737a0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CA23@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007e01cfb555$8bbcfd60$a336f820$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CB6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a901cfb570$c03fb940$40bf2bc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210CBCB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think the KettleCorn fork of Popcorn could be an excellent starting point for a prototype designed specifically for educators. The Improved subtitles can easily provide accessibility and the ability for students to watch video without distracting or disruptive audio. The Lower Thirds Plugin is a standard element in video editing. The Restyled popup plugin offers more elegant icons. Creating a custom icon for popups may be one of the most important features for educators. The CKeditor interface is a fantastic upgrade. The End Card promo could function as a connector page. ___ Labeling three default timelines might help scaffold the process for new users:one for base media, and one for annotations, and one for narration. What I'd love to see: The ability to move an element from one location to another. The ability to change the size (zoom in/zoom out) on an element. Numbered pop-up icons could be useful for reinforcing the sequence of items being presented. Icons for pop-ups with definitions, paraphrased ideas, key concepts, and logical/semantic relationships could also be very useful. A plug-in to sequentially reveal sections of a diagram or image. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > OK cool, I'd like to get some sort of prototype together soon for comments > and ideas, > > J > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 15:30 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Yeah sounds like it. Happy to test on iPad, Android and Windows tablets > just share links whenever appropriate. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 15:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Just to be clear though: we're using mediaelement with popcornJS so that's > not using videoJS, right? So it should be OK? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 12:15 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with > video.js e.g. > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235 > > The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool > has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy > enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code > for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147 > which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte > example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the > point is it. It's almost worse that the the content appears to load ok on > iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it > were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just > displays a blank screen. > > I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say > stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test > against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere, > > Cheers, > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can > filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example > https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on > ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which > suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible. > Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway > there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the > hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in > Xerte? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on > ipads (I wonder why not then?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being > triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker > displays an incompatibility message on iPad. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much, > but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took > over Alice's homework...) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples > don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool > itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for > checking/testing on ipad? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads? > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > > > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get > > your ideas, as we are still at early stages > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby > > [ashbrix at gmail.com] > > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56 > > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation > > > > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution > > as the most robust solution to this. Notice how ellegantly the > > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism: > > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for > > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/ > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) > wrote: > > Maybe Popcorn? > > > > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ > > > > Could make a popcorn module? > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> > wrote: > > I?m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing: > > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He?s > > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing: > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711 > > > > I think the results are really good, and it?s taken some time to get > right. 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URL: From Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk Fri Aug 15 16:41:42 2014 From: Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk (WARD Pauline) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:41:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) In-Reply-To: <0501b44c0cbf47da861e8d100222ca3a@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> References: <01d901cfb316$51a73a00$f4f5ae00$@ed.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C757@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0b1c9617b20a48959376b8fb12ea845f@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0D9210C9B0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0501b44c0cbf47da861e8d100222ca3a@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <450d164b315c4fba92d3797d70aec827@DB3PR05MB411.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Good news - the bug appears to be fixed, my captions have stopped running away. I guess YouTube looked into it (even though they didn't actually email me back). Thanks v much for your help Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: WARD Pauline [mailto:Pauline.Ward at ed.ac.uk] Sent: 11 August 2014 11:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Yes, hopefully. I've reported it to Google through the YouTube feedback feature, so they definitely know about it now. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 11 August 2014 10:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) I'm afraid not. I expect it will get fixed at some point, Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of WARD Pauline Sent: 11 August 2014 10:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Oh yes, I've embedded the video in a very simple html page, and the same thing happens i.e. captions are fine in IE and Firefox, but in Chrome they disappear when the embed is not active. Well, I'm guessing there's not much Xerte can do about that. We'll just have to live with it for now. Thanks very much Julian. Regards, Pauline Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 August 2014 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) If you take xerte out of the picture, i.e. just embed the youtube in a simple html page, what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pauline Ward Sent: 08 August 2014 15:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] bug with YouTube captions vanishing in Chrome (under HTML5) Don't know whether others may have noticed this behaviour already, but here at Edinburgh we are just switching our Xerte learning object (the Mantra course) over to deployment as HTML (i.e. zip files), and a bug seems to have appeared. In Chrome, when you watch an embedded youtube video, the captions will only appear while the youtube menu buttons are up. When you move your mouse away, and the youtube menu bar disappears, the captions also vanish. Whereas in Firefox and Internet Explorer the captions seem fine. V strange! Any help much appreciated, thank you. The development version which is displaying the bug is here: http://datalib-at.edina.ac.uk/mantra/researchdataexplained/ And the live version which has the normal behaviour is here: http://datalib.edina.ac.uk/xerte/play.php?template_id=9 Pauline Ward Data Library Assistant University of Edinburgh Tel: 0131 651 1440 (Mon & Fri); 0131 651 5277 (Tues/Wed/Thurs). @PaulineDataWard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Once you?ve outputted your SCORM, we?ve manually gone into each > SCORM and changed the URL (couldn?t find how to change this within Xerte > itself), and we?ve had no reported issues since. > > > > Please treat this as an area to investigate rather than a solution! > > > > *Andrew Jack* > > *T* *+44 (0)113 205 4570 <%2B44%20%280%29113%20205%204570>* > *E* *andrew.jack at i-to-i.com * > *W **www.onlinetefl.com * > > [image: Description: signitures] > > > *i-to-i TEFL* | Woodside House | 261 Low Lane | Horsforth | Leeds | LS18 > 5NY | UK > > *i-to-i UK Ltd, registered office: TUI Travel House, Crawley Business > Quarter, Fleming Way, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 9QL - Registered in > England, number 4539983 - This email is confidential. If you have received > it in error, please notify us immediately at postmaster at i-to-i.com > delete it from your system and note that you may > not copy, distribute or use its contents.* > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wall > *Sent:* 21 August 2014 16:46 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Display issue on College Network > > > > Hi All, Across our College network Xerte has suddenly started displaying > oddly. All our Xerte objects are created in html5 format and we are using > an up to date version of Google Chrome and Internet Explorer but the issue > is the same on both browsers but displays fine on devices outside of the > College Network. The content of each learning object appears ok but without > the black heading/navigation bar at the top or bottom. Can anyone offer any > advice on what may be the cause of this? > > > > *Frank Wall* > > Head of Learning Technologies > > Waltham Forest College > > > > > > > > *Our Open Enrolment Days* > > Tuesday 26 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Wednesday 27 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Thursday 28 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Friday 29 August 2014, 10am to 4pm > > Saturday 30 August 2014, 10am to 1pm > > Monday 1 September 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Tuesday 2 September 2014, 10am to 8pm > > *Your first choice for vocational excellence - Enrol Now!* > > > [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] > [image: > Description: Image removed by sender.] > > DISCLAIMER: This message is for the named person's use only. It may > contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission or > retransmission. 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We DO use the SSL url, which is now defunct (as per July 31) You can patch the XOT installation by patching: /modules/xerte/player_html5/rloObject.htm Tom Andrew Jack - i-to-i schreef op 21-8-2014 17:53: > > It **may** be related to this: > http://www.mathjax.org/changes-to-the-mathjax-cdn/ > > We've had major issues with the display of HTML5 SCORMS on the back of > this -- basically a URL referenced in scormRLO.htm in the zip is no > longer accessible. Once you've outputted your SCORM, we've manually > gone into each SCORM and changed the URL (couldn't find how to change > this within Xerte itself), and we've had no reported issues since. > > Please treat this as an area to investigate rather than a solution! > > *Andrew Jack* > > *T**+44 (0)113 205 4570* > *E**_andrew.jack at i-to-i.com _**_ > _**W **www.onlinetefl.com * > > Description: signitures > > > *i-to-i TEFL*| Woodside House | 261 Low Lane | Horsforth | Leeds | > LS18 5NY | UK > > *i-to-i UK Ltd, registered office: TUI Travel House, Crawley Business > Quarter, Fleming Way, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 9QL - Registered in > England, number 4539983 - This email is confidential. If you have > received it in error, please notify us immediately at > postmaster at i-to-i.com delete it from > your system and note that you may not copy, distribute or use its > contents.* > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wall > *Sent:* 21 August 2014 16:46 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Display issue on College Network > > Hi All, Across our College network Xerte has suddenly started > displaying oddly. All our Xerte objects are created in html5 format > and we are using an up to date version of Google Chrome and Internet > Explorer but the issue is the same on both browsers but displays fine > on devices outside of the College Network. The content of each > learning object appears ok but without the black heading/navigation > bar at the top or bottom. Can anyone offer any advice on what may be > the cause of this? > > *Frank Wall* > > Head of Learning Technologies > > Waltham Forest College > > *Our Open Enrolment Days* > > Tuesday 26 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Wednesday 27 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Thursday 28 August 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Friday 29 August 2014, 10am to 4pm > > Saturday 30 August 2014, 10am to 1pm > > Monday 1 September 2014, 10am to 8pm > > Tuesday 2 September 2014, 10am to 8pm > > *Your first choice for vocational excellence - Enrol Now!* > > > Description: Image removed by sender. > Description: > Image removed by sender. > > DISCLAIMER: This message is for the named person's use only. It may > contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. > No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any > mistransmission or retransmission. If you receive this message in > error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your > system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must > not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy > any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. > Waltham Forest College and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the > right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any > views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized > to state them to be the views of any such entity. Email has been > scanned for viruses by Critical Software's email service. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. 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Frank From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 22 August 2014 08:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Display issue on College Network Yes you are probably right. We DO use the SSL url, which is now defunct (as per July 31) You can patch the XOT installation by patching: /modules/xerte/player_html5/rloObject.htm Tom Andrew Jack - i-to-i schreef op 21-8-2014 17:53: It *may* be related to this: http://www.mathjax.org/changes-to-the-mathjax-cdn/ We've had major issues with the display of HTML5 SCORMS on the back of this - basically a URL referenced in scormRLO.htm in the zip is no longer accessible. Once you've outputted your SCORM, we've manually gone into each SCORM and changed the URL (couldn't find how to change this within Xerte itself), and we've had no reported issues since. Please treat this as an area to investigate rather than a solution! Andrew Jack T +44 (0)113 205 4570 E andrew.jack at i-to-i.com W www.onlinetefl.com [Description: signitures] i-to-i TEFL | Woodside House | 261 Low Lane | Horsforth | Leeds | LS18 5NY | UK i-to-i UK Ltd, registered office: TUI Travel House, Crawley Business Quarter, Fleming Way, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 9QL - Registered in England, number 4539983 - This email is confidential. If you have received it in error, please notify us immediately at postmaster at i-to-i.com delete it from your system and note that you may not copy, distribute or use its contents. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Frank Wall Sent: 21 August 2014 16:46 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Display issue on College Network Hi All, Across our College network Xerte has suddenly started displaying oddly. All our Xerte objects are created in html5 format and we are using an up to date version of Google Chrome and Internet Explorer but the issue is the same on both browsers but displays fine on devices outside of the College Network. The content of each learning object appears ok but without the black heading/navigation bar at the top or bottom. Can anyone offer any advice on what may be the cause of this? Frank Wall Head of Learning Technologies Waltham Forest College Our Open Enrolment Days Tuesday 26 August 2014, 10am to 8pm Wednesday 27 August 2014, 10am to 8pm Thursday 28 August 2014, 10am to 8pm Friday 29 August 2014, 10am to 4pm Saturday 30 August 2014, 10am to 1pm Monday 1 September 2014, 10am to 8pm Tuesday 2 September 2014, 10am to 8pm Your first choice for vocational excellence - Enrol Now! [Description: Image removed by sender.][Description: Image removed by sender.] DISCLAIMER: This message is for the named person's use only. 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I created a new XOT, created a page, and added narration, but when the upload completes, I get an ?Upload failed: Check permissions? error. However, I can?t find any evidence as to why a failure is occurring: - Uploading images works fine - The web server has write permission to everything (as evidenced by images uploading without error) - There is nothing in xerte/error_log - There is nothing relevant in Apache?s error log If anyone can help me solve either of these problems I would appreciate the advice. Thanks! ?Brad -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Aug 26 23:30:32 2014 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:30:32 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Audio play and upload problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What's the size of the audio file? From: brsmith at akamai.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Audio play and upload problems Hello, I?m using Xerte 2.1 (git git-100-g1c55bea), and am having two audio-related problems: First, one of my users created a narrated page with auto-play on. In Chrome or Firefox it works fine, but in Safari it doesn?t play, automatically or otherwise. The player shows the correct length of the audio, and switches between play and pause without showing any errors in the javascript console, but no sound is actually made. The second problem arose when I tried to reproduce the issue. I created a new XOT, created a page, and added narration, but when the upload completes, I get an ?Upload failed: Check permissions? error. However, I can?t find any evidence as to why a failure is occurring: - Uploading images works fine - The web server has write permission to everything (as evidenced by images uploading without error) - There is nothing in xerte/error_log - There is nothing relevant in Apache?s error log If anyone can help me solve either of these problems I would appreciate the advice. Thanks! ?Brad This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Aug 26 23:35:30 2014 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Audio play and upload problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try: Safari - Preferences - Advanced - unchecked Internet plug-ins (Stop plug-ins to save power) >From what I read, Safari has some oddball power saving feature that demotes certain plugins depending on how they are embedded . From: brsmith at akamai.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Audio play and upload problems Hello, I?m using Xerte 2.1 (git git-100-g1c55bea), and am having two audio-related problems: First, one of my users created a narrated page with auto-play on. In Chrome or Firefox it works fine, but in Safari it doesn?t play, automatically or otherwise. The player shows the correct length of the audio, and switches between play and pause without showing any errors in the javascript console, but no sound is actually made. The second problem arose when I tried to reproduce the issue. I created a new XOT, created a page, and added narration, but when the upload completes, I get an ?Upload failed: Check permissions? error. However, I can?t find any evidence as to why a failure is occurring: - Uploading images works fine - The web server has write permission to everything (as evidenced by images uploading without error) - There is nothing in xerte/error_log - There is nothing relevant in Apache?s error log If anyone can help me solve either of these problems I would appreciate the advice. Thanks! ?Brad This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brsmith at akamai.com Tue Aug 26 23:55:51 2014 From: brsmith at akamai.com (Smith, Bradley) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:55:51 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Audio play and upload problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <760EE6B0-C0D6-4ADA-926C-0EA7E499999A@akamai.com> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > What's the size of the audio file? > Ah! Good catch. I was indeed running afoul of PHP?s upload size limit. I changed the limit and can now upload my test audio. Thanks, I should have caught that myself! This leaves me with the Safari issue, which I?m having with my test XOT, just as my colleague did. I?m guessing it must be javascript-related, because I cut/pasted the