From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Tue Nov 5 00:58:54 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Message-ID: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some other method) Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a unique ID to each page in XOT... Thanks RonM2 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Nov 5 01:19:16 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 20:19:16 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: >Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? Since the point of the html5 is to dispense with the Flash plugin, that would sort of defeat the purpose.Hence, I don't believe there is an HTML/JS analog for "Insert Xerte content". Dave > From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 > Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some > other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 > modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the > appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of > the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it > using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a > unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Tue Nov 5 02:47:03 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:47:03 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> OK spoilsport - how then might I accomplish my dream of a real 'menu'? Any way? RonM2 :- ) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages >Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? Since the point of the html5 is to dispense with the Flash plugin, that would sort of defeat the purpose. Hence, I don't believe there is an HTML/JS analog for "Insert Xerte content". Dave > From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 > Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some > other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 > modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the > appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of > the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it > using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a > unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Nov 5 03:09:58 2013 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 22:09:58 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: A custom menu page and some global js to handle the page and state information.Something to sense when the page is a section end and on the next "Next Page", set some state info and then redirect back to page 1/menu. The state info can be used to hide /reveal checkmarks or what have you. From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:47:03 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages OK spoilsport ? how then might I accomplish my dream of a real ?menu?? Any way? RonM2 :- ) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages >Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? Since the point of the html5 is to dispense with the Flash plugin, that would sort of defeat the purpose.Hence, I don't believe there is an HTML/JS analog for "Insert Xerte content". Dave > From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 > Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some > other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 > modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the > appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of > the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it > using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a > unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Tue Nov 5 06:38:10 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:38:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Message-ID: There isn't just now but there are flash players written in pure js that are starting to become mature and similarly pdf and jmol viewers. We're nowhere near yet but in the future we could probably build a js equivalent of xerte standalone so you would import existing or create new xerte models directly in xot for ipad deployment... As for the other functionality you require Ron, most can be done by turning off linear navigation and inserting your own navigation images and using the pagelink functionality (rightclick selected text for context menu). For the checkmarks you would need to use js on the last page of each section to store a flag that a section was complete and then manually show ticks on menu based on flag. Relatively easy to setup but would need redoing for every LO. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett wrote: >Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? Since the point of the html5 is to dispense with the Flash plugin, that would sort of defeat the purpose. Hence, I don't believe there is an HTML/JS analog for "Insert Xerte content". Dave > From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 > Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some > other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 > modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the > appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of > the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it > using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a > unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Nov 5 10:18:09 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:18:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB055@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can upload .htm for use in the HTML5 output instead of a Xerte model... I can't remember which page type copes with it ATM, I'll get back to you later. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 05 November 2013 06:38 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages There isn't just now but there are flash players written in pure js that are starting to become mature and similarly pdf and jmol viewers. We're nowhere near yet but in the future we could probably build a js equivalent of xerte standalone so you would import existing or create new xerte models directly in xot for ipad deployment... As for the other functionality you require Ron, most can be done by turning off linear navigation and inserting your own navigation images and using the pagelink functionality (rightclick selected text for context menu). For the checkmarks you would need to use js on the last page of each section to store a flag that a section was complete and then manually show ticks on menu based on flag. Relatively easy to setup but would need redoing for every LO. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII Dave Burnett wrote: >Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? Since the point of the html5 is to dispense with the Flash plugin, that would sort of defeat the purpose. Hence, I don't believe there is an HTML/JS analog for "Insert Xerte content". Dave > From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:58:54 -0800 > Subject: [Xerte] xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or > some other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with > 8 modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to > the appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at > the end of the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then > insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way > to assign a unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 5 12:43:31 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:43:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control. The hotspot image connector page could be used to create your image based menu and the pagelink feature could be used in the last page of the sequence of pages to return the user to the menu page. You can change the navigation to use historical navigation so XOT does keep a stack (LIFO) of pages visited so you might be able to use that in your quest to flag up when a module is completed, but, assuming the html version of the hotspot connector page duplicates the behaviour of the Xerte flash based page, there is nothing currently in there to manipulate the hotspot images to show when a section has been completed. The simplest approach might be some mechanism for changing the image used for the hotspot to say the same image with a check mark super imposed. But that would require some programming. e.g. if you could check the LIFO stack for the last page visited when the Hot Spot Connector page first opened you could use that information to trigger the change of image where appropriate. You would need to take a copy of the hotspot connector model and xwd files and then modify them to achieve what you wanted. Not sure if that is any help. Just one view on how the problem might be approached assuming I have correctly understood your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 November 2013 00:58, KnowledgeWare wrote: > Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some > other method) > > Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 > modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the > appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end > of > the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a > 'done' > checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it > using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a > unique ID to each page in XOT... > > Thanks > RonM2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:26 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Possible bug in XOT Hi Folks Just in case this issue is more widespread (could just be my installation) - creating a new learning object using XOT (HTML5 version), adding a title page, then adding a background image property but not specifying an image URL causes a crash of load: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'css' of undefined preview.php?template_id=44:68 It caught me out when importing an object created by another user (who'd forgotten to set the media URL). 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:26 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Possible bug in XOT Hi Folks Just in case this issue is more widespread (could just be my installation) - creating a new learning object using XOT (HTML5 version), adding a title page, then adding a background image property but not specifying an image URL causes a crash of load: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'css' of undefined preview.php?template_id=44:68 It caught me out when importing an object created by another user (who'd forgotten to set the media URL). 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Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can alter our set up on our server to allow the browsers to run Xerte without this security issue but keep security for authentication with LDAP? Regards, Adam Learning Technologies Adviser 07540668611 a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ ___________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by MessageLabs' Email Security System on behalf of the University of Brighton. For more information see http://www.brighton.ac.uk/is/spam/ ___________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Tue Nov 5 17:48:50 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 09:48:50 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <00f501ceda4f$498de2b0$dca9a810$@kccsoft.com> Thanks folks for all this info! I will try to digest. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 4:44 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control. The hotspot image connector page could be used to create your image based menu and the pagelink feature could be used in the last page of the sequence of pages to return the user to the menu page. You can change the navigation to use historical navigation so XOT does keep a stack (LIFO) of pages visited so you might be able to use that in your quest to flag up when a module is completed, but, assuming the html version of the hotspot connector page duplicates the behaviour of the Xerte flash based page, there is nothing currently in there to manipulate the hotspot images to show when a section has been completed. The simplest approach might be some mechanism for changing the image used for the hotspot to say the same image with a check mark super imposed. But that would require some programming. e.g. if you could check the LIFO stack for the last page visited when the Hot Spot Connector page first opened you could use that information to trigger the change of image where appropriate. You would need to take a copy of the hotspot connector model and xwd files and then modify them to achieve what you wanted. Not sure if that is any help. Just one view on how the problem might be approached assuming I have correctly understood your requirements. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 November 2013 00:58, KnowledgeWare wrote: Has anyone has built a graphical 'menu' using connector pages? (or some other method) Is there any way I could build a custom graphical menu (let's say with 8 modules - 8 hotspot images on the screen) that would jump a user to the appropriate page, then run through the pages in the part, then at the end of the 'part' navigate back to the main menu - and if possible turn on a 'done' checkmark on the menu? Could I build such a menu as a model then insert it using the 'xerte content' icon? I'm assuming there is a way to assign a unique ID to each page in XOT... Thanks RonM2 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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However, I've found that > parts of Xerte don't work due to default security settings on > browsers, I get a shield icon in the address bar and need to choose to > accept 'load unsafe script' under 'This page includes script from > unauthenticated sources' in Chrome and Firefox has 'Blocked content > that isn't secure' and I need to choose to 'Disable protection on this > page'. Allowing this lets parts of Xerte to show content and open > projects. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can alter our set up on our > server to allow the browsers to run Xerte without this security issue > but keep security for authentication with LDAP? > > Regards, > Adam > > Learning Technologies Adviser > 07540668611 > a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk > > https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ > > ___________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by MessageLabs' Email Security > System on behalf of the University of Brighton. > For more information see http://www.brighton.ac.uk/is/spam/ > ___________________________________________________________ > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. 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URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Wed Nov 6 00:19:38 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:19:38 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> So here come my (inevitable) dumb questions.. What specifically would I use to build a custom menu? JS? And.how would I 'insert' it to XOT? I was planning to use the desktop xerte so I become reasonably used to working with it and inserting what I needed, but since it seems to be sidelined, I need to be sure I can 'insert' a menu, custom pages, and some code to read/write to a proprietary dbase in HTML5 XOT. Does that all look doable? I'm willing to put in the effort unless I'm really swimming against the current here. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 7:10 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages A custom menu page and some global js to handle the page and state information. Something to sense when the page is a section end and on the next "Next Page", set some state info and then redirect back to page 1/menu. The state info can be used to hide /reveal checkmarks or what have you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Wed Nov 6 09:31:00 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 09:31:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Message-ID: Hi Pretty much anything is doable in xot, including all that you have mentioned. The only thing to clarify is what you mean by "proprietary dbase". Do you need the data to only persist for the session or while the LO is in progress or over multiple sessions? If you were able to flesh out the details a bit more and maybe mockup a few screenshots then i'll be happy to assist. Regards John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health and Life Sciences Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII KnowledgeWare wrote: So here come my (inevitable) dumb questions?. What specifically would I use to build a custom menu? JS? And?how would I ?insert? it to XOT? I was planning to use the desktop xerte so I become reasonably used to working with it and inserting what I needed, but since it seems to be sidelined, I need to be sure I can ?insert? a menu, custom pages, and some code to read/write to a proprietary dbase in HTML5 XOT. Does that all look doable? I?m willing to put in the effort unless I?m really swimming against the current here. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 7:10 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages A custom menu page and some global js to handle the page and state information. Something to sense when the page is a section end and on the next "Next Page", set some state info and then redirect back to page 1/menu. The state info can be used to hide /reveal checkmarks or what have you. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Nov 6 09:49:08 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 09:49:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): [cid:image001.png at 01CEDAD5.7035B420] Then you get your custom content loaded up: [cid:image002.png at 01CEDAD5.7035B420] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 06 November 2013 00:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages So here come my (inevitable) dumb questions.... What specifically would I use to build a custom menu? JS? And...how would I 'insert' it to XOT? I was planning to use the desktop xerte so I become reasonably used to working with it and inserting what I needed, but since it seems to be sidelined, I need to be sure I can 'insert' a menu, custom pages, and some code to read/write to a proprietary dbase in HTML5 XOT. Does that all look doable? I'm willing to put in the effort unless I'm really swimming against the current here. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 7:10 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages A custom menu page and some global js to handle the page and state information. Something to sense when the page is a section end and on the next "Next Page", set some state info and then redirect back to page 1/menu. The state info can be used to hide /reveal checkmarks or what have you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 112179 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 54602 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Wed Nov 6 12:04:55 2013 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Brane_=A9mitek?=) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:04:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Upgrade problems Message-ID: <015e01cedae8$68534ac0$38f9e040$@fov.uni-mb.si> I updated XOT based on the instructions in your documentation, easy option. After carrying out an update I have problems with the use of XOT. First page is as follows: Appearance of the login page is completely different as shown in your Show me instructions and in previous version. After login is the working page also different as in Show me What I've made wrong. Is the problem in setup, wrong template, etc. Any suggestions. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 27231 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Wed Nov 6 18:22:41 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:22:41 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> Thanks John and Julian! Once I get my ideas fleshed out John I'll post some more info. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 06 November 2013 00:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages So here come my (inevitable) dumb questions.. What specifically would I use to build a custom menu? JS? And.how would I 'insert' it to XOT? I was planning to use the desktop xerte so I become reasonably used to working with it and inserting what I needed, but since it seems to be sidelined, I need to be sure I can 'insert' a menu, custom pages, and some code to read/write to a proprietary dbase in HTML5 XOT. Does that all look doable? I'm willing to put in the effort unless I'm really swimming against the current here. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 7:10 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages A custom menu page and some global js to handle the page and state information. Something to sense when the page is a section end and on the next "Next Page", set some state info and then redirect back to page 1/menu. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 54602 bytes Desc: not available URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Thu Nov 7 02:32:51 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:32:51 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 14912 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEDBA5.1C3D76C0] The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEDBA5.1C3D76C0] In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEDBAA.B1F74A60] The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEDBAA.B1F74A60] In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Nov 8 01:36:48 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:36:48 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com>, , <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Thanks Julian and John for this info.and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen). They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls. so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available. any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page. You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh. The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else. the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back. I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections. So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc. I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.. Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en .html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,e n.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 8 11:40:15 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:40:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare wrote: > Thanks Julian and John for this info?and yes if I could detect the end of > a section using pageId?s and trigger a dbase write event I think that would > be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put > some more thought into how it might work from my end. > > > > RonM2 > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Hi, > > > > As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html > file. And to address the other items: > > > > As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are > generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can > only be changed by editing the xml (from what I?ve seen)? They all look > like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric > > > > Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added > to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid > spaces etc that get mangled in urls? so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 > > > > Then you also have deeplinking already available? any URL > play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to > deeplink to that page ? thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go > directly to that page? > > > > You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not > requiring the whole LO to refresh? > > > > The only bit that I see that might be ?difficult? is the database > connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, > so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else? > the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php > page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back? > > > > I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has > requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can > see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a > sections? > > > > So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are > fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and > pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a > decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc? > > > > I?m happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won?t be > until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what > you want?. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / > css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some > programming to resolve, one way or another, > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *KnowledgeWare > *Sent:* 07 November 2013 02:33 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > If possible I?d like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). > This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John > by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non > scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue > menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to > update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the > database, etc. > > > > > > The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it?s just a ?parts? module and > the sections are linear. It?s workable and probably much easier to do in > XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to ?insert? the menu, read the > ?parts? from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the > student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part > when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update > the database and return to this menu. > > > > > > In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then > gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is > ?p1id?, and for the modules inside it is ?p1m1id?, ?p1m2id? etc. It would > be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don?t > think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: > > > > *?If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page > automatically.* > > *You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text > boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run > the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what > is displayed in the pagelink control.?* > > If a client builds a course they?d need some simple method of identifying > a page that wouldn?t change, that would always remain the same in order > that the menu works. The page name wouldn?t be good and it may be changed. > > > > There?s another reason I?d like a unique page identifier ? I?m wondering > if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and > a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on > login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the > part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. > > > > That?s really what I?d like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like > above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a > piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. > > > Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I?m not in the > same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if > replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a > way to do this however I will work toward it. > > > > Thanks > > RonM2 > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an > .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to > display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a > dummy ? it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use > in the content): > > > > > > > > Then you get your custom content loaded up: > > > > > > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Nov 8 11:53:44 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:53:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 8 12:04:15 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:04:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we > couldn?t easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn?t have a > pageID? but I don?t think that would be a good idea in this situation > anyway? > > > > Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, > as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for > example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for > completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you > would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change > and linkID is harder to get at? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to > enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be > used in a connector page to reference that page. > > pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, > which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to > provide the author with a list of pages to select from. > > In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the > pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file > were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. > > As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file > used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used > the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page > ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the > form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to > select a page from the list of pages. > > Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is > identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd > file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and > restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. > > The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this > has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the > connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none > connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain > compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare wrote: > > Thanks Julian and John for this info?and yes if I could detect the end of > a section using pageId?s and trigger a dbase write event I think that would > be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put > some more thought into how it might work from my end. > > > > RonM2 > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Hi, > > > > As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html > file. And to address the other items: > > > > As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are > generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can > only be changed by editing the xml (from what I?ve seen)? They all look > like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric > > > > Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added > to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid > spaces etc that get mangled in urls? so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 > > > > Then you also have deeplinking already available? any URL > play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to > deeplink to that page ? thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go > directly to that page? > > > > You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not > requiring the whole LO to refresh? > > > > The only bit that I see that might be ?difficult? is the database > connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, > so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else? > the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php > page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back? > > > > I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has > requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can > see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a > sections? > > > > So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are > fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and > pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a > decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc? > > > > I?m happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won?t be > until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what > you want?. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / > css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some > programming to resolve, one way or another, > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *KnowledgeWare > *Sent:* 07 November 2013 02:33 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > If possible I?d like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). > This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John > by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non > scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue > menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to > update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the > database, etc. > > > > > > The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it?s just a ?parts? module and > the sections are linear. It?s workable and probably much easier to do in > XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to ?insert? the menu, read the > ?parts? from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the > student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part > when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update > the database and return to this menu. > > > > > > In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then > gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is > ?p1id?, and for the modules inside it is ?p1m1id?, ?p1m2id? etc. It would > be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don?t > think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: > > > > *?If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page > automatically.* > > *You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text > boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run > the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what > is displayed in the pagelink control.?* > > If a client builds a course they?d need some simple method of identifying > a page that wouldn?t change, that would always remain the same in order > that the menu works. The page name wouldn?t be good and it may be changed. > > > > There?s another reason I?d like a unique page identifier ? I?m wondering > if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and > a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on > login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the > part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. > > > > That?s really what I?d like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like > above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a > piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. > > > Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I?m not in the > same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if > replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a > way to do this however I will work toward it. > > > > Thanks > > RonM2 > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an > .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to > display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a > dummy ? it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use > in the content): > > > > > > > > Then you get your custom content loaded up: > > > > > > > > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number > SC021474 > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Widening Participation Initiative of the > Year 2009 and Herald Society?s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html > > Winner: Times Higher Education?s Outstanding Support for Early Career > Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland > partners. > > http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Nov 8 12:28:52 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:28:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I've just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I'm using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more space to become involved again - you have so much knowledge of the internal workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how to do certain things - I'm sure there are others out there who would become involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step guide... As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn't even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be a 'good' idea - I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could add to the flexibility. I'd also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but no-one (including me) really understands it... and it has been asked for by several people... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Nov 8 12:49:09 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:49:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFA5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> My feeling is the connectors stuff could get too complicated, as you know we have had this discussion before, and my position hasn't changed. Ron's problem needs a programmer to solve it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I've just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I'm using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more space to become involved again - you have so much knowledge of the internal workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how to do certain things - I'm sure there are others out there who would become involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step guide... As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn't even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be a 'good' idea - I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could add to the flexibility. I'd also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but no-one (including me) really understands it... and it has been asked for by several people... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Nov 8 12:58:15 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:58:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFA5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFA5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No I understand that but I'm keen to see if what he needs can be incorporated into Xenith in my rewrite "easily" and actually benefit us all going ahead. If (when) I make Xenith Event driven and more OO, firing events at different foints in the page cycle (before load, after load, before unload, after unload, etc) won't incur any overheads when not used but will allow us to hook things into the LO which we can't easily do just now with the plugins in the core server side code... I think the thing is whether pageIDs going into the connectors to standardize things is ok... you can label every other page and deeplink to them using a pageID so why shouldn't you be able to do it with a connector page but still be able to do it with linkID=PG=xxxx or page=x... seems more nonintuitive to have pages where things aren't allowed if its an easy add... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:49 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages My feeling is the connectors stuff could get too complicated, as you know we have had this discussion before, and my position hasn't changed. Ron's problem needs a programmer to solve it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I've just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I'm using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more space to become involved again - you have so much knowledge of the internal workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how to do certain things - I'm sure there are others out there who would become involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step guide... As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn't even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be a 'good' idea - I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could add to the flexibility. I'd also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but no-one (including me) really understands it... and it has been asked for by several people... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages No I understand that but I'm keen to see if what he needs can be incorporated into Xenith in my rewrite "easily" and actually benefit us all going ahead. If (when) I make Xenith Event driven and more OO, firing events at different foints in the page cycle (before load, after load, before unload, after unload, etc) won't incur any overheads when not used but will allow us to hook things into the LO which we can't easily do just now with the plugins in the core server side code... I think the thing is whether pageIDs going into the connectors to standardize things is ok... you can label every other page and deeplink to them using a pageID so why shouldn't you be able to do it with a connector page but still be able to do it with linkID=PG=xxxx or page=x... seems more nonintuitive to have pages where things aren't allowed if its an easy add... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:49 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages My feeling is the connectors stuff could get too complicated, as you know we have had this discussion before, and my position hasn't changed. Ron's problem needs a programmer to solve it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I've just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I'm using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more space to become involved again - you have so much knowledge of the internal workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how to do certain things - I'm sure there are others out there who would become involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step guide... As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn't even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be a 'good' idea - I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could add to the flexibility. I'd also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but no-one (including me) really understands it... and it has been asked for by several people... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. 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URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Fri Nov 8 13:24:28 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:24:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFA5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I know that, but it's not just about the menu links, it's the signaling that a particular page has been completed... For example, Tom has a request in Github for a way to generate pdfs (for certificates - it's been asked on the list before a couple of times I seem to remember). Just now when the LO loads it would be relatively trivial to add &page=35 to the end of the LO to go straight to the certificate generation page... I'm not saying that it could be made foolproof for someone with intimate knowledge of the system but we could at least try to log that each page had been loaded, possibly even each activity completed... who knows... I'm not disagreeing with you just trying to look at the fuller picture... I know XOT has gone WAY beyond your wildest dreams - well I'm not 100% sure ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If you were coding up a custom solution, then it's easy enough to create links to pages based on whatever you want to use: page number, page title etc? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages No I understand that but I'm keen to see if what he needs can be incorporated into Xenith in my rewrite "easily" and actually benefit us all going ahead. If (when) I make Xenith Event driven and more OO, firing events at different foints in the page cycle (before load, after load, before unload, after unload, etc) won't incur any overheads when not used but will allow us to hook things into the LO which we can't easily do just now with the plugins in the core server side code... I think the thing is whether pageIDs going into the connectors to standardize things is ok... you can label every other page and deeplink to them using a pageID so why shouldn't you be able to do it with a connector page but still be able to do it with linkID=PG=xxxx or page=x... seems more nonintuitive to have pages where things aren't allowed if its an easy add... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:49 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages My feeling is the connectors stuff could get too complicated, as you know we have had this discussion before, and my position hasn't changed. Ron's problem needs a programmer to solve it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 08 November 2013 12:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I've just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I'm using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more space to become involved again - you have so much knowledge of the internal workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how to do certain things - I'm sure there are others out there who would become involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step guide... As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn't even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be a 'good' idea - I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could add to the flexibility. I'd also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but no-one (including me) really understands it... and it has been asked for by several people... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could not get rather confusing. There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds the pageID attributes. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we couldn't easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn't have a pageID... but I don't think that would be a good idea in this situation anyway... Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change and linkID is harder to get at... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be used in a connector page to reference that page. pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to provide the author with a list of pages to select from. In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to select a page from the list of pages. Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare > wrote: Thanks Julian and John for this info...and yes if I could detect the end of a section using pageId's and trigger a dbase write event I think that would be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put some more thought into how it might work from my end. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Hi, As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html file. And to address the other items: As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can only be changed by editing the xml (from what I've seen)... They all look like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid spaces etc that get mangled in urls... so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 Then you also have deeplinking already available... any URL play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to deeplink to that page - thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go directly to that page... You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not requiring the whole LO to refresh... The only bit that I see that might be 'difficult' is the database connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else... the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back... I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a sections... So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc... I'm happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won't be until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what you want.... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some programming to resolve, one way or another, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 07 November 2013 02:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages If possible I'd like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the database, etc. The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it's just a 'parts' module and the sections are linear. It's workable and probably much easier to do in XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to 'insert' the menu, read the 'parts' from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update the database and return to this menu. In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is 'p1id', and for the modules inside it is 'p1m1id', 'p1m2id' etc. It would be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don't think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: "If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page automatically. You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what is displayed in the pagelink control." If a client builds a course they'd need some simple method of identifying a page that wouldn't change, that would always remain the same in order that the menu works. The page name wouldn't be good and it may be changed. There's another reason I'd like a unique page identifier - I'm wondering if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. That's really what I'd like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I'm not in the same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. If there is a way to do this however I will work toward it. Thanks RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:49 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages You do it using media -> flash movie, and set an init object, then load an .html file instead of a swf (the init object is what trips the code to display this rather than the swf, so you need to sety one, even if just a dummy - it also allows you to pass json into the html page for you to use in the content): Then you get your custom content loaded up: Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education's Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society's Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education's Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 8 15:21:10 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:21:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: I would really like to see the Scenario page available as a html model. I don't have the familiarity with the html5 side of things and the javascript libraries you are using now. But I would be very willing to help someone who does, to develop a html 5 model for the scenario page. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 November 2013 12:28, Smith, John wrote: > I completely understand, things have changed a lot recently and I?ve > just learned enough about Github to be able to do what I want to do. I?m > using a GUI to manage the changes to the repository, commits, gitflow etc > which actually makes it really simple to do and track your changes and > would be more than happy to show you that way when you feel you have more > space to become involved again ? you have so much knowledge of the internal > workings of a lot of the system and its development that it would be a > shame for you to be locked out due to limited documentation we have of how > to do certain things ? I?m sure there are others out there who would become > involved too (even if just to correct spelling, do some more > internationalization, documentation etc) if only they had a step by step > guide? > > > > As for the pageIDs, I can get them added in again or ask Tom (I wasn?t > even aware of their omission from the XOT connectors) if it is agreed to be > a ?good? idea ? I know having several ways could confuse but it does/could > add to the flexibility. > > > > I?d also love for you to be involved in the migration of the last page > model, the scenario one, as it has an amazing amount of potential but > no-one (including me) really understands it? and it has been asked for by > several people? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 12:04 PM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > I can't help wondering if the different ways of connecting to a page could > not get rather confusing. > > There is nothing to prevent the adding back in to the XOT connector xwds > the pageID attributes. > > Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to do this as I have been > sitting on the sidelines whilst the XOT developments continue apace. My > thinking was that I would look at XOT once things had settled down. But at > present other aspects of life are limiting any time I could put into XOT. > With the changes from svn to github I no longer have access to the source > files or an understanding of how to go about editing them. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 November 2013 11:53, Smith, John wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Yes, thank you for that, this is an important thing to remember that we > couldn?t easily end a section on a Connector page since we wouldn?t have a > pageID? but I don?t think that would be a good idea in this situation > anyway? > > > > Perhaps though we should add the pageID into those connector pages also, > as I can see a situation where you have sections with a MCQ connector for > example (I know you can now do this using links in any text page, but for > completeness) and you want to deeplink straight to the section. I know you > would still have the option of linkID and page number but number can change > and linkID is harder to get at? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > The pageID optional attribute was originally included in xwd files to > enable the project author to give a page an identifier that could then be > used in a connector page to reference that page. > > pageID became redundant in XOT when Julian enabled the pagelink attribute, > which collected the page information from the projects xml file, so as to > provide the author with a list of pages to select from. > > In a Xerte project each page has its own separate xml file and so the > pagelist feature could not function in Xerte. Two versions of the xwd file > were therefore created one for use in Xerte and one for use in XOT. > > As an example the multiple choice connector page had a single model file > used by Xerte and XOT but xerte used the xwd file cMcq.xwd whilst XOT used > the file cMcq_XOT.xwd. In Xerte the form prompts the user with "Go to Page > ID" and the user inputs a page id into a text field. In the XOT version the > form prompts the user with "Destination Page" and the user is able to > select a page from the list of pages. > > Which xwd file to use when building the master xwd file for XOT is > identified by a parameter called "restrict" in the first line of the xwd > file. restrict="template" results in the xwd file being used for XOT and > restrict="develop" indicates the file is for Xerte. > > The key thing here with respect to your considerations is that unless this > has changed since I last worked with the xwds the XOT versions of the > connector pages no longer have an optional "pageID" attribute. The none > connector pages retained their pageID attribute just to retain > compatibility with Xerte rather than to create two xwd files for every page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 November 2013 01:36, KnowledgeWare wrote: > > Thanks Julian and John for this info?and yes if I could detect the end of > a section using pageId?s and trigger a dbase write event I think that would > be workable to do what I needed. Thanks for these suggestions, I will put > some more thought into how it might work from my end. > > > > RonM2 > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:16 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Hi, > > > > As Julian says, all the presentation can be done in the attached html > file. And to address the other items: > > > > As Jonathan states Unique IDs are generated for each page as they are > generated but these linkIDs remain with the page for its lifetime and can > only be changed by editing the xml (from what I?ve seen)? They all look > like PGxxxxxxx where xxxxxx is numeric > > > > Then you have the pageID (this is an optional property that can be added > to every page). This can be set to any key you wish (should probably avoid > spaces etc that get mangled in urls? so you can set it as Pg5Sec1 > > > > Then you also have deeplinking already available? any URL > play.php?template_id=1 can be changed to use either page/pageID/linkID to > deeplink to that page ? thus play.php?template_id=14&pageID=Pg5Sec1 will go > directly to that page? > > > > You can also use internal PageLinks to jump to specific pages, so not > requiring the whole LO to refresh? > > > > The only bit that I see that might be ?difficult? is the database > connection. At present there is no way to do something when a page is left, > so when a section ends you cannot trigger some code to do something else? > the actual communication to the db is probably trivial via a custom php > page but it needs triggering to know when to write data back? > > > > I plan to rewrite the HTML5 engine into more of an OO model and Tom has > requested some events to support SCORM and possibly TinCan later but I can > see that you might also need some custom events to be fired at the end of a > sections? > > > > So for example you have a section called Section1 and page_end events are > fired when each page is left. You could listen for a page_end event and > pass the IDs/page number into the event handler and from there make a > decision as to whether it was a section, subsection etc? > > > > I?m happy to work those events also into the rewrite (although it won?t be > until Christmas period) and that should pretty much allow you to do what > you want?. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:36 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > Well, when you load up the html page, you have all the HTML / javascript / > css you need to do that. You have a problem that is going to need some > programming to resolve, one way or another, > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *KnowledgeWare > *Sent:* 07 November 2013 02:33 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages > > > > If possible I?d like to get to a parts/modules menu as below (in blue). > This is xerte desktop with a flash menu inserted (thanks Julian/Dave). John > by dbase reading I mean the ability to read/write/update a proprietary (non > scorm, my own) database. For example, the parts and modules in the blue > menu below are loaded from the database. At the end of a module I want to > update the database, when all modules in a part done update the part in the > database, etc. > > > > > > The menu below (black) is in Authorware, it?s just a ?parts? module and > the sections are linear. It?s workable and probably much easier to do in > XOT than parts/modules. For this I need to ?insert? the menu, read the > ?parts? from the database when the LO starts, turn on checkmarks if the > student has completed the part, then jump to the first page for each part > when clicked, page through linear, and at the last page in the part update > the database and return to this menu. > > > > > > In the blue menu I coded the xerte icons with a specific ID which then > gets parsed to build the menu/parts. For example the page ID for part 1 is > ?p1id?, and for the modules inside it is ?p1m1id?, ?p1m2id? etc. It would > be very useful if XOT had a way to uniquely code each icon but I don?t > think it does, or as Jonathan stated it does but it may change at runtime: > > > > *?If I remember correctly XOT assigns a unique identifier to each page > automatically.* > > *You can use this by using the pagelink feature available in all text > boxes. However I think the assigned identifier changes each time you run > the project. What is constant is the page name this maps to which is what > is displayed in the pagelink control.?* > > If a client builds a course they?d need some simple method of identifying > a page that wouldn?t change, that would always remain the same in order > that the menu works. The page name wouldn?t be good and it may be changed. > > > > There?s another reason I?d like a unique page identifier ? I?m wondering > if I could send a student an email with a link with his login/password and > a set of pages somewhere in the piece to navigate to. For instance, on > login it would go to the part 3 summary pages, page through them, do the > part 3 quiz, then go to an exit screen. > > > > That?s really what I?d like to try to accomplish, some type of a menu like > above that my clients are used to, and if possible a way to jump into a > piece and navigate through a specific set of pages. > > > Are these things doable in HTML5 XOT? As many of you know I?m not in the > same league with many of you as a programmer so please bear that in mind if > replying, things like JSON etc. are beyond me at this point. 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URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Sat Nov 9 19:27:36 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:27:36 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages In-Reply-To: References: <000701ced9c2$33bab540$9b301fc0$@kccsoft.com> <001801ced9d1$4f01e6c0$ed05b440$@kccsoft.com> <003a01ceda85$e15fcaa0$a41f5fe0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FB519@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00fa01cedb1d$2e82c660$8b885320$@kccsoft.com> <004f01cedb61$a83ddbe0$f8b993a0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000f01cedc22$fe110490$fa330db0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFA5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C887FBFC5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007201cedd81$bf6d63e0$3e482ba0$@kccsoft.com> Hello John: I don't pretend to understand the architecture concerns you folks are discussing but wondering about this concept of 'deeplinking' - which I assume to be loading an LO and going directly to a specific page. When doing this would there be any way to pass authentication parameter to the LO (loginID, password, companyID) and then trigger an event to query a dbase to authenticate the user, then make a decision to allow/disallow? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte XOT HTML5 - graphical menu, connector pages I know that, but it's not just about the menu links, it's the signaling that a particular page has been completed. For example, Tom has a request in Github for a way to generate pdfs (for certificates - it's been asked on the list before a couple of times I seem to remember). Just now when the LO loads it would be relatively trivial to add &page=35 to the end of the LO to go straight to the certificate generation page. I'm not saying that it could be made foolproof for someone with intimate knowledge of the system but we could at least try to log that each page had been loaded, possibly even each activity completed. who knows. I'm not disagreeing with you just trying to look at the fuller picture. I know XOT has gone WAY beyond your wildest dreams - well I'm not 100% sure ;-) Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gunther.fleerackers at khleuven.be Sun Nov 10 09:55:06 2013 From: gunther.fleerackers at khleuven.be (Gunther Fleerackers) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:55:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Starting to develop new page templates Message-ID: Hi all, The past week I have been working on my first page template in Xerte, following the guideline ?Creating Templates" in the help-file. It seems to work, but it took long to make something simple. It was also my first experience with action script. A few questions came up when I was creating the page template : 1. Is there some information about the logic of the xerte-objects : properties, methods, ? For example in Numcalc.rlt i see that sometimes the property id is selected (ex. Progressbar) and in other object the property rs (ex. Judge button) is selected to identify the object in action script. Is there somewhere a file where the properties and methods are explained for these objects? 2. When I have made a page template how can I share it with my colleagues through Xerte Online Toolkits? So they can use the page without having know the program language. I have tried to put the .rlt-file into a template directory of XOT and then went to the management page in XET to update the templates but nothing happens. 3. When I put a Text Entry on the page and give the background the color white (#FFFFFF of #ffffff) or another color. It shows a black background? I?m probably doing something wrong here. Some technical information : I?m working on an Macbook Air. XOT is installed on the standard apache/php server of Mac OSX. Xerte 2.18 is running in een emulation window within Virtual box. Best regards, Gunther FleerackersBest regards, ----- Mr. Gunther Fleerackers Leuven University College Dept. Healthcare and Technology Herestraat 49 B-3000 Leuven Tel +32 (0)16 37 52 00 http:\\www.leuvenuniversitycollege.be Disclaimer : http:\\www.khleuven.be\Disclaimer-mail From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Nov 11 09:40:55 2013 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:40:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Starting to develop new page templates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C890C54A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You'd be better off building an HTML based template. The old .rlt files are no longer supported (we can't continue to support Flash when it's effectively dead). Templates built this way will still work of course, but you ought to really build an HTML one because it will be easier for you to understand and easy to implement in XOT. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Gunther Fleerackers Sent: 10 November 2013 09:55 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Starting to develop new page templates Hi all, The past week I have been working on my first page template in Xerte, following the guideline ?Creating Templates" in the help-file. It seems to work, but it took long to make something simple. It was also my first experience with action script. A few questions came up when I was creating the page template : 1. Is there some information about the logic of the xerte-objects : properties, methods, ? For example in Numcalc.rlt i see that sometimes the property id is selected (ex. Progressbar) and in other object the property rs (ex. Judge button) is selected to identify the object in action script. Is there somewhere a file where the properties and methods are explained for these objects? 2. When I have made a page template how can I share it with my colleagues through Xerte Online Toolkits? So they can use the page without having know the program language. I have tried to put the .rlt-file into a template directory of XOT and then went to the management page in XET to update the templates but nothing happens. 3. When I put a Text Entry on the page and give the background the color white (#FFFFFF of #ffffff) or another color. It shows a black background? I?m probably doing something wrong here. Some technical information : I?m working on an Macbook Air. XOT is installed on the standard apache/php server of Mac OSX. Xerte 2.18 is running in een emulation window within Virtual box. Best regards, Gunther FleerackersBest regards, ----- Mr. Gunther Fleerackers Leuven University College Dept. Healthcare and Technology Herestraat 49 B-3000 Leuven Tel +32 (0)16 37 52 00 http:\\www.leuvenuniversitycollege.be Disclaimer : http:\\www.khleuven.be\Disclaimer-mail _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Nov 11 09:45:12 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:45:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Starting to develop new page templates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5280A728.2000601@tor.nl> Hi Mr. Fleerackers, Gunther, Please be aware that the Flash based templates are deprecated. All new developments are concentrated on the new HTML5/javascript engine. Furthermore, most of the separate templates such as multiple perspectives are moved into the 'main' Nottingham pages template. (Numcalcs I am not sure about). See modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models_html5 for examples of the javascript model files. If you have any questions left, please don't hesitate to ask them, but I would suggest to ask them on the xerte developers list. See http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev. That's a more appropriate mailing list for these kinds of questions. Regards, Tom Gunther Fleerackers schreef op 10-11-2013 10:55: > Hi all, > > The past week I have been working on my first page template in Xerte, > following the guideline ?Creating Templates" in the help-file. It seems to > work, but it took long to make something simple. It was also my first > experience with action script. A few questions came up when I was > creating the page template : > > 1. Is there some information about the logic of the xerte-objects : > properties, methods, ? > > For example in Numcalc.rlt i see that sometimes the property id is > selected (ex. Progressbar) and in other object the property rs (ex. Judge > button) is selected to identify the object in action script. Is there > somewhere a file where the properties and methods are explained for these > objects? > > > 2. When I have made a page template how can I share it with my colleagues > through Xerte Online Toolkits? So they can use the page without having > know the program language. > > I have tried to put the .rlt-file into a template directory of XOT and > then went to the management page in XET to update the templates but > nothing happens. > > > 3. When I put a Text Entry on the page and give the background the color > white (#FFFFFF of #ffffff) or another color. It shows a black background? > I?m probably doing something wrong here. > > > Some technical information : I?m working on an Macbook Air. XOT is > installed on the standard apache/php server of Mac OSX. Xerte 2.18 is > running in een emulation window within Virtual box. > > Best regards, > Gunther FleerackersBest regards, > ----- > Mr. Gunther Fleerackers > > Leuven University College > Dept. Healthcare and Technology > Herestraat 49 > B-3000 Leuven > Tel +32 (0)16 37 52 00 > http:\\www.leuvenuniversitycollege.be > Disclaimer : http:\\www.khleuven.be\Disclaimer-mail > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From A.R.G.Bailey at brighton.ac.uk Mon Nov 11 10:26:24 2013 From: A.R.G.Bailey at brighton.ac.uk (Adam Bailey) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:26:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Load unsafe script browser issue In-Reply-To: <52795D3B.2010003@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hi Tom, Thanks you for your help and advice, that seems to have sorted most of the issues we were having. Regards, Adam Learning Technologies Adviser 07540668611 a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ From: Tom Reijnders > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:03 To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Load unsafe script browser issue Hi Adam, Could you please make sure that the value of site_url in management.php (Site->Site settings (HTML /Images) ->site url) has https:// (i.s.o. http://) Regards, Tom Adam Bailey schreef op 5-11-2013 18:29: Hi, We've recently installed Xerte toolkits to pilot. It is on a secure server https and authenticates through LDAP. However, I've found that parts of Xerte don't work due to default security settings on browsers, I get a shield icon in the address bar and need to choose to accept 'load unsafe script' under 'This page includes script from unauthenticated sources' in Chrome and Firefox has 'Blocked content that isn't secure' and I need to choose to 'Disable protection on this page'. Allowing this lets parts of Xerte to show content and open projects. Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can alter our set up on our server to allow the browsers to run Xerte without this security issue but keep security for authentication with LDAP? Regards, Adam Learning Technologies Adviser 07540668611 a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ ___________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by MessageLabs' Email Security System on behalf of the University of Brighton. 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Regards, Tom Adam Bailey schreef op 11-11-2013 11:26: > Hi Tom, > > Thanks you for your help and advice, that seems to have sorted most of > the issues we were having. > > Regards, > Adam > > Learning Technologies Adviser > 07540668611 > a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk > > https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ > > From: Tom Reijnders > > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > > Date: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:03 > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Load unsafe script browser issue > > Hi Adam, > > Could you please make sure that the value of site_url in > management.php (Site->Site settings (HTML /Images) ->site url) has > https:// (i.s.o. http://) > > Regards, > > Tom > > Adam Bailey schreef op 5-11-2013 18:29: >> Hi, >> >> We've recently installed Xerte toolkits to pilot. It is on a secure >> server https and authenticates through LDAP. However, I've found that >> parts of Xerte don't work due to default security settings on >> browsers, I get a shield icon in the address bar and need to choose >> to accept 'load unsafe script' under 'This page includes script from >> unauthenticated sources' in Chrome and Firefox has 'Blocked content >> that isn't secure' and I need to choose to 'Disable protection on >> this page'. Allowing this lets parts of Xerte to show content and >> open projects. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can alter our set up on >> our server to allow the browsers to run Xerte without this security >> issue but keep security for authentication with LDAP? >> >> Regards, >> Adam >> >> Learning Technologies Adviser >> 07540668611 >> a.r.g.bailey at brighton.ac.uk >> >> https://studentfolio.brighton.ac.uk/elearning/ >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by MessageLabs' Email Security >> System on behalf of the University of Brighton. >> For more information see http://www.brighton.ac.uk/is/spam/ >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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[cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE12F.FE06E3E0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: 14 November 2013 11:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE131.595D0AC0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE131.C0C053C0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 67155 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From E.Miresrichards at westminster.ac.uk Thu Nov 14 13:09:32 2013 From: E.Miresrichards at westminster.ac.uk (Emma Mires-Richards) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:09:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content In-Reply-To: References: <9f228f29846045d595bac984b9931528@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> <5056293a4ed8460ab2cacfee3bbeb559@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <27e18818cb3b431e80a29904f7a60a87@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE13A.C1401C00] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image003.jpg at 01CEE13A.C1401C00] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE143.2BF862C0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE143.2BF862C0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 67155 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From E.Miresrichards at westminster.ac.uk Thu Nov 14 14:29:00 2013 From: E.Miresrichards at westminster.ac.uk (Emma Mires-Richards) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:29:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content In-Reply-To: References: <9f228f29846045d595bac984b9931528@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> <5056293a4ed8460ab2cacfee3bbeb559@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> <27e18818cb3b431e80a29904f7a60a87@AMSPR07MB033.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Hi John, I am not sure where to check the version, is it something I can see within the LO itself or the hosting server? This is the YouTube embed code: Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Hmm sorry about that. Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE145.8706DCD0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE145.8706DCD0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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This is the YouTube embed code: Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Hmm sorry about that. Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE146.C9C11E40] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE146.C9C11E40] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Try editing your LO and replacing it with this: Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, I am not sure where to check the version, is it something I can see within the LO itself or the hosting server? This is the YouTube embed code: Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Hmm sorry about that. Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE146.EA194CD0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE146.EA194CD0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi, You would go to http://YOURSERVER/version.txt to find out the version But, I think that is a very old version of an embed code. Try editing your LO and replacing it with this: Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, I am not sure where to check the version, is it something I can see within the LO itself or the hosting server? This is the YouTube embed code: Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Hmm sorry about that. Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE149.2E485E80] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE149.2E485E80] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:53 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Both, That's great it now works with the new embed code, thank you very much for your help. Is there a way that I could check the embed code myself for future reference? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi, You would go to http://YOURSERVER/version.txt to find out the version But, I think that is a very old version of an embed code. Try editing your LO and replacing it with this: Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, I am not sure where to check the version, is it something I can see within the LO itself or the hosting server? This is the YouTube embed code: Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 14:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Hmm sorry about that. Can you tell me what version you are running (find it at /version.txt) Also, can you tell me what code you are pasting into the (I'm assuming) Youtube page type? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Thank you, this has resolved it so that it is playing in JavaScript but I still get an error on that page: [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEE14A.2D1B0CA0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 12:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, Yes, sorry I should have said. The bug leave the Javascript engine selected but plays in Flash. Toggle it to Flash and then Toggle it back again and all should be swell... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi John, Thanks for your advice, yes it does appear to be playing in the Flash player blue screen and dropdowns, however when I check the properties of the LO it is the JavaScript option that is ticked and not flash? Here is a screen shot of how it is displaying. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CEE14A.2D1B0CA0] Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 14 November 2013 11:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: video content Hi Emma, When you imported the LO into your own system, is it now launching in the Flash (blueish with the dropdowns at bottom) player? Its recommended now that you use the Javascript (HTML5) engine. You might need to go into the Properties of the LO and change this as there was a problem in the past that imported content automatically defaulted to Flash. If it isn't the Flash player that is launching then can you send a screenshot please? Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Emma Mires-Richards Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:10 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] video content Hi there, Our University's IT team have recently installed Xerte onto one of our test servers. I am testing out material formally created in the sandpit with this version, it all displays fine except for the multimedia content, I have a page where I have embedded a youtube clip. It now launches the clip in a new window but has the word undefined also appearing, any ideas how I could resolve this? Many thanks, Emma Emma Mires-Richards BA MA CLIP Senior Academic Liaison Librarian Marylebone Library University of Westminster 35 Marylebone Road London, NW1 5LS Telephone: 02035067065 Internal ext: 67065 Email: mirese at westminster.ac.uk Visit my blog: http://www.westminsterarchitecture.blogspot.co.uk Visit my blog: http://westminstertransporttourism.blogspot.co.uk Book an appointment http://emmamires-richards.youcanbook.me/ Find the library on Twitter: @UniWestLib The University of Westminster is a charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registration number: 977818 England. Registered Office: 309 Regent Street, London W1B 2UW. This message and its attachments are private and confidential. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and remove it and its attachments from your system. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John [http://www.marjon.ac.uk/media/marjon/promotions/email-signature/Email_Signature_Image.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Fri Nov 15 17:33:41 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:33:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: > Hi all > > > > Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 > ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: > > > > (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation > > 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation > > 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation > > 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser ? logged me in as a Guest > > 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. > > 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content > > 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, > clicked ?save? > > 7) Could no longer login to index.php > > 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php ? saved > > 9) Still couldn?t login to index > > 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files > > 11) Still can?t login. > > > > I?m a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside > management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can?t see any errors, > cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. > > > > Hmmmm? > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Mon Nov 18 08:52:51 2013 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte [http://www.marjon.ac.uk/media/marjon/promotions/email-signature/Email_Signature_Image.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Nov 18 11:17:47 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:17:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: > I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before > (as far as I can tell). > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 15 November 2013 17:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hello, > > > > Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not > working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than > management and checking for settings. > > > > Pat > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 > ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: > > > > (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation > > 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation > > 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation > > 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser ? logged me in as a Guest > > 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. > > 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content > > 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, > clicked ?save? > > 7) Could no longer login to index.php > > 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php ? saved > > 9) Still couldn?t login to index > > 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files > > 11) Still can?t login. > > > > I?m a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside > management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can?t see any errors, > cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. > > > > Hmmmm? > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Nov 18 11:59:52 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:59:52 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011f01cee455$b179ddb0$146d9910$@co.uk> Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 November 2013 12:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list'; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Adam did you have version 2 working with ldap? e.g. values in the separate ldap table haven't changed? I know Pat has suggested testing ldap via a localhost install but you could also try a new clean install of 2.1 on your current server e.g. different db and different directory and check if that works via ldap? HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 November 2013 12:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list'; xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suraj Uturaju Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:35 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Enable SSL functionality on XERTE Hi All, I am trying to enable SSL on XERTE and although I have got the correct certificate and also assigned it to the service, it does not work appropriately for all the pages. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the correct direction as to how to enable SSL for the entire application. Much Appreciated Suraj K Uturaju uwl.ac.uk University of West London Villiers House Ealing Broadway Ealing London W5 2PA This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suraj Uturaju Sent: 18 November 2013 12:35 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Enable SSL functionality on XERTE Hi All, I am trying to enable SSL on XERTE and although I have got the correct certificate and also assigned it to the service, it does not work appropriately for all the pages. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the correct direction as to how to enable SSL for the entire application. Much Appreciated Suraj K Uturaju uwl.ac.uk University of West London Villiers House Ealing Broadway Ealing London W5 2PA This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > This cropped up recently in a post by someone else and Tom Reijnders > responded? > > > > "Could you please make sure that the value of site_url in management.php > (Site->Site settings (HTML /Images) ->site url) has https:// " > > > > What often happenes I think is that XOT is installed via http first so > that value get stored in the Xerte db then people try to set up ssl access > without changing that value. > > > > Let us know if that resolves the issue or more specific if not? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Suraj Uturaju > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 12:35 > > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Enable SSL functionality on XERTE > > > > Hi All, > > I am trying to enable SSL on XERTE and although I have got the correct > certificate and also assigned it to the service, it does not work > appropriately for all the pages. I was wondering if anyone could point me > in the correct direction as to how to enable SSL for the entire application. > > > > Much Appreciated > > > > Suraj K Uturaju > > uwl.ac.uk > > > > University of West London > > Villiers House > > Ealing Broadway > > Ealing > > London W5 2PA > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk Mon Nov 18 13:18:05 2013 From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk (Smith, John) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:18:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Enable SSL functionality on XERTE In-Reply-To: References: <0c3c093559c34c369321fc18148a9908@AMXPR05MB231.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> <015801cee45d$76c0c780$64425680$@co.uk> Message-ID: Yes, I think we should use relative URLs where possible... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:15 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Enable SSL functionality on XERTE *dev talk* we just need to create a mod for next time (if https then stay on https, or drop http from the url when using it)? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: This cropped up recently in a post by someone else and Tom Reijnders responded... "Could you please make sure that the value of site_url in management.php (Site->Site settings (HTML /Images) ->site url) has https:// " What often happenes I think is that XOT is installed via http first so that value get stored in the Xerte db then people try to set up ssl access without changing that value. Let us know if that resolves the issue or more specific if not? HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suraj Uturaju Sent: 18 November 2013 12:35 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Enable SSL functionality on XERTE Hi All, I am trying to enable SSL on XERTE and although I have got the correct certificate and also assigned it to the service, it does not work appropriately for all the pages. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the correct direction as to how to enable SSL for the entire application. Much Appreciated Suraj K Uturaju uwl.ac.uk University of West London Villiers House Ealing Broadway Ealing London W5 2PA This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Mon Nov 18 13:13:18 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:13:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: <011f01cee455$b179ddb0$146d9910$@co.uk> Message-ID: Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read wrote: > Hi Ron > > > > It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to > try as settings in the DB look the same as always. > > > > Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? > > > Adam > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 12:00 > *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or > is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem > exclusive to ldap or wider than that? > > Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 11:18 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work > > > > Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the > database > > > > Does that connect? > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: > > I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as > far as I can tell). > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 15 November 2013 17:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hello, > > > > Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not > working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than > management and checking for settings. > > > > Pat > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 > ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: > > > > (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation > > 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation > > 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation > > 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser ? logged me in as a Guest > > 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. > > 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content > > 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, > clicked ?save? > > 7) Could no longer login to index.php > > 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php ? saved > > 9) Still couldn?t login to index > > 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files > > 11) Still can?t login. > > > > I?m a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside > management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can?t see any errors, > cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. > > > > Hmmmm? > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Suraj.Uturaju at uwl.ac.uk Mon Nov 18 14:40:06 2013 From: Suraj.Uturaju at uwl.ac.uk (Suraj Uturaju) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:40:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Enable SSL on XERTE Message-ID: <989e4fdf8b1043b2a491f18950a63162@AMXPR05MB231.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Hi Ron This has worked a treat and I am not sure how I had missed it. Separately, is it possible to implement LDAP over SSL against the AD domain for user authentication? The issue is that when I specify the settings under the application for LDAP, whenever I specify the 636 portion it just says unable to bind., However the 389 bind option works every time. I do not see any other settings on the LDAP section to enable SSL explicitly? Your help is much appreciated. Regards Raj Suraj K Uturaju Enterprise Architect IT Services uwl.ac.uk 'Proud of our past, excited about our future.' T: 020 8231 2459 F: 020 8231 2402 E: suraj.uturaju at uwl.ac.uk University of West London Villiers House Ealing Broadway Ealing London W5 2PA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Nov 18 15:04:29 2013 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:04:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Enable SSL on XERTE In-Reply-To: <989e4fdf8b1043b2a491f18950a63162@AMXPR05MB231.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> References: <989e4fdf8b1043b2a491f18950a63162@AMXPR05MB231.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <019e01cee46f$7c986cf0$75c946d0$@co.uk> Hi Suraj I'm sure this has cropped up before too - you could try searching the list archive or perhaps someone else will respond. Alternatively have a look at the code in \library\Xerte\Authentication\Ldap.php I think others have customised this to suit their needs but not sure if there's a specific example of ldap via ssl. At the very least you could possibly use that file to debug. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suraj Uturaju Sent: 18 November 2013 14:40 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Enable SSL on XERTE Hi Ron This has worked a treat and I am not sure how I had missed it. Separately, is it possible to implement LDAP over SSL against the AD domain for user authentication? The issue is that when I specify the settings under the application for LDAP, whenever I specify the 636 portion it just says unable to bind., However the 389 bind option works every time. I do not see any other settings on the LDAP section to enable SSL explicitly? Your help is much appreciated. Regards Raj Suraj K Uturaju Enterprise Architect IT Services uwl.ac.uk 'Proud of our past, excited about our future.' T: 020 8231 2459 F: 020 8231 2402 E: suraj.uturaju at uwl.ac.uk University of West London Villiers House Ealing Broadway Ealing London W5 2PA This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Pat On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Suraj > > I'm sure this has cropped up before too - you could try searching the list > archive or perhaps someone else will respond. Alternatively have a look at > the code in \library\Xerte\Authentication\Ldap.php I think others have > customised this to suit their needs but not sure if there's a specific > example of ldap via ssl. At the very least you could possibly use that file > to debug. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Suraj Uturaju > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 14:40 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Enable SSL on XERTE > > > > Hi Ron > > This has worked a treat and I am not sure how I had missed it. Separately, > is it possible to implement LDAP over SSL against the AD domain for user > authentication? The issue is that when I specify the settings under the > application for LDAP, whenever I specify the 636 portion it just says > unable to bind., However the 389 bind option works every time. I do not see > any other settings on the LDAP section to enable SSL explicitly? > > > > Your help is much appreciated. > > > > Regards > > Raj > > > > > > > > Suraj K Uturaju > > Enterprise Architect > > IT Services > > uwl.ac.uk > > > > ?Proud of our past, excited about our future.? > > > > T: 020 8231 2459 > > F: 020 8231 2402 > > E: suraj.uturaju at uwl.ac.uk > > > > University of West London > > Villiers House > > Ealing Broadway > > Ealing > > London W5 2PA > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Wed Nov 20 18:33:52 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:33:52 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Desktop? Message-ID: <00f001cee61f$108d1860$31a74920$@kccsoft.com> Just wondering what the future plan is for xerte (Flash) desktop. is there expected to be any further releases or is all the effort going into XOT? Also regarding the current desktop version - is there any reason I could not 'deeplink' into it - send the user a URL link that would take them to a specific page? Thanks RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 20 23:18:08 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:18:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Desktop? In-Reply-To: <00f001cee61f$108d1860$31a74920$@kccsoft.com> References: <00f001cee61f$108d1860$31a74920$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: It is my understanding that desktop Xerte is now deprecated and no further development is taking place. "is there any reason I could not ?deeplink? into it ? send the user a URL link that would take them to a specific page?" I posted a proof of concept demonstration, that used desktop Xerte and allowed you to include a pageID in the url so that the project would open at the page specified, to the developer forum I think sometime around april 2012. If I recall correctly the title of the posting included the words "proof of concept". A url could end with ?pageID=bullet and when the project opened in the browser the project opened at the page with a pageID of "bullet". One problem I hit was that when working with .rlo projects the list of pages is not completed until the first page is displayed, so I had to build in a delay so that what happened in practice was that the title page was displayed briefly then once the timer had run to allow time for the array of pages to have been built the diversion to the specified page could take place. This should not be an issue if using pageTemplates type projects since the array of pages is available before the first page loads. I can't find the example I posted to the list, but I have an old work in progress project that still demonstrates how it worked. The key to how it works is some additional javascript code in rloObject.js which provides a getUrlParam() function and some code in the .rlo file to call the javascript. rloObject.js is found in the xerte\publish\html\ folder. I have just tested it in Opera and Firefox and it works OK but it throws an error in IE 10 so the getUrlParam() needs work to enable it to do something different in IE in order to capture the parameter. If you think it might be of help I could email you a copy. There may be others on the list who have done more recent work on "deep linking" Kind regards Johnathan On 20 November 2013 18:33, KnowledgeWare wrote: > Just wondering what the future plan is for xerte (Flash) desktop? is there > expected to be any further releases or is all the effort going into XOT? > > > > Also regarding the current desktop version ? is there any reason I could > not ?deeplink? into it ? send the user a URL link that would take them to a > specific page? > > > > Thanks > > RonM2 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Thu Nov 21 02:12:42 2013 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:12:42 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Desktop? In-Reply-To: References: <00f001cee61f$108d1860$31a74920$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <003d01cee65f$29888ee0$7c99aca0$@kccsoft.com> Thanks Jonathan! Let me digest this. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:18 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Desktop? It is my understanding that desktop Xerte is now deprecated and no further development is taking place. "is there any reason I could not 'deeplink' into it - send the user a URL link that would take them to a specific page?" I posted a proof of concept demonstration, that used desktop Xerte and allowed you to include a pageID in the url so that the project would open at the page specified, to the developer forum I think sometime around april 2012. If I recall correctly the title of the posting included the words "proof of concept". A url could end with ?pageID=bullet and when the project opened in the browser the project opened at the page with a pageID of "bullet". One problem I hit was that when working with .rlo projects the list of pages is not completed until the first page is displayed, so I had to build in a delay so that what happened in practice was that the title page was displayed briefly then once the timer had run to allow time for the array of pages to have been built the diversion to the specified page could take place. This should not be an issue if using pageTemplates type projects since the array of pages is available before the first page loads. I can't find the example I posted to the list, but I have an old work in progress project that still demonstrates how it worked. The key to how it works is some additional javascript code in rloObject.js which provides a getUrlParam() function and some code in the .rlo file to call the javascript. rloObject.js is found in the xerte\publish\html\ folder. I have just tested it in Opera and Firefox and it works OK but it throws an error in IE 10 so the getUrlParam() needs work to enable it to do something different in IE in order to capture the parameter. If you think it might be of help I could email you a copy. There may be others on the list who have done more recent work on "deep linking" Kind regards Johnathan On 20 November 2013 18:33, KnowledgeWare wrote: Just wondering what the future plan is for xerte (Flash) desktop. is there expected to be any further releases or is all the effort going into XOT? Also regarding the current desktop version - is there any reason I could not 'deeplink' into it - send the user a URL link that would take them to a specific page? 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Many thanks > > > > Somewhere - I think SOAS - changed this so there LDAP was over SSH. > > > > The LDAP code has changed a bit but by the look of > > > > https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/blob/develop/library/Xerte/Authentication/Ldap.php > > > > and then > > > > http://php.net/manual/en/function.ldap-connect.php > > > > it would seem ldaps://HOSTNAME would work? > > > > Pat > > > > > > Regards > > Raj > > > > Suraj K Uturaju > > Enterprise Architect > > IT Services > > uwl.ac.uk > > ?Proud of our past, excited about our future.? > > T: 020 8231 2459 > > F: 020 8231 2402 > > E: suraj.uturaju at uwl.ac.uk > > > > University of West London > > Villiers House > > Ealing Broadway > > Ealing > > London W5 2PA > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 13:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:04 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Pat The LDAP table has 2 rows, both the same, duplicating our ldap details which has 2 separate queries separated with $$$ (this has always worked). Sitedetails has the same LDAP values. However, sitedetails appears to be full of junk (?) data (e.g. pod_one, form_string) following using the management page (?) 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Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 13:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! 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URL: From xerte at pgogywebstuff.com Thu Nov 21 11:22:18 2013 From: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com (Pat @ Pgogy) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:22:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: <011f01cee455$b179ddb0$146d9910$@co.uk> Message-ID: give me some time at lunch and I will write an LDAP test script thing On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Adam Read wrote: > Hi Pat > > > > The LDAP table has 2 rows, both the same, duplicating our ldap details > which has 2 separate queries separated with $$$ (this has always worked). > > > > Sitedetails has the same LDAP values. > > > > However, sitedetails appears to be full of junk (?) data (e.g. pod_one, > form_string) following using the management page (?) 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worked and then broke it > > > > Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi Ron > > > > It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to > try as settings in the DB look the same as always. > > > > Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? > > > Adam > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 12:00 > *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or > is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem > exclusive to ldap or wider than that? > > Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 11:18 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work > > > > Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the > database > > > > Does that connect? > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: > > I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as > far as I can tell). > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 15 November 2013 17:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hello, > > > > Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not > working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than > management and checking for settings. > > > > Pat > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 > ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: > > > > (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation > > 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation > > 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation > > 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser ? logged me in as a Guest > > 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. > > 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content > > 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, > clicked ?save? > > 7) Could no longer login to index.php > > 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php ? saved > > 9) Still couldn?t login to index > > 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files > > 11) Still can?t login. > > > > I?m a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside > management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can?t see any errors, > cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. > > > > Hmmmm? > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John Sent: 21 November 2013 11:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Adam, Pod_one and pod_two are base64 encoded (for legacy reasons) and should be like that.... The other two form and peer are probably the same... Regards, John Smith Learning Technologist School of Health & Life Sciences Glasgow Caledonian University From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:04 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hi Pat The LDAP table has 2 rows, both the same, duplicating our ldap details which has 2 separate queries separated with $$$ (this has always worked). Sitedetails has the same LDAP values. However, sitedetails appears to be full of junk (?) data (e.g. pod_one, form_string) following using the management page (?) 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Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 13:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! 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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Adam Read wrote: > I did wonder, that?s not the issue then!... > > > > Any reason why sitedetails still has ldap details when there?s now an ldap > table? Are both still used? > > > > Any suggestions I can try to diagnose where the login is failing? > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Smith, John > *Sent:* 21 November 2013 11:27 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hi Adam, > > > > Pod_one and pod_two are base64 encoded (for legacy reasons) and should be > like that?. The other two form and peer are probably the same? > > > > Regards, > > > > John Smith > > Learning Technologist > > School of Health & Life Sciences > > Glasgow Caledonian University > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:04 AM > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hi Pat > > > > The LDAP table has 2 rows, both the same, duplicating our ldap details > which has 2 separate queries separated with $$$ (this has always worked). > > > > Sitedetails has the same LDAP values. > > > > However, sitedetails appears to be full of junk (?) data (e.g. pod_one, > form_string) following using the management page (?) 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worked and then broke it > > > > Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi Ron > > > > It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to > try as settings in the DB look the same as always. > > > > Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? > > > Adam > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 12:00 > *To:* xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or > is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem > exclusive to ldap or wider than that? > > Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 18 November 2013 11:18 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work > > > > Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the > database > > > > Does that connect? > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read wrote: > > I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as > far as I can tell). > > > > *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)* > > Senior e-Learning Technologist > > University of St Mark & St John > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy > *Sent:* 15 November 2013 17:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it > > > > Hello, > > > > Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not > working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than > management and checking for settings. > > > > Pat > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 > ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: > > > > (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation > > 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation > > 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation > > 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser ? logged me in as a Guest > > 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. > > 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content > > 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, > clicked ?save? > > 7) Could no longer login to index.php > > 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php ? saved > > 9) Still couldn?t login to index > > 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files > > 11) Still can?t login. > > > > I?m a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside > management.php and the MySQL database look fine. 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URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Mon Nov 25 08:48:37 2013 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:48:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it In-Reply-To: References: <011f01cee455$b179ddb0$146d9910$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Pat Did you have a chance to do this? Thanks, Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 21 November 2013 11:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it give me some time at lunch and I will write an LDAP test script thing On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi Pat The LDAP table has 2 rows, both the same, duplicating our ldap details which has 2 separate queries separated with $$$ (this has always worked). Sitedetails has the same LDAP values. However, sitedetails appears to be full of junk (?) data (e.g. pod_one, form_string) following using the management page (?) 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Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 13:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Did you look in the sitedetails or ldapdetails for the ldap stuff? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi Ron It works with Guest access so must be an LDAP issue. Not sure what else to try as settings in the DB look the same as always. Is there anything in the sitedetails table that might be worth checking? Adam Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 18 November 2013 12:00 To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Also does switching back to guest access allow the installation to work or is it now broken regardless of authentication method? e.g. is the problem exclusive to ldap or wider than that? Close all browserwindows or clear cache after making that change. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 18 November 2013 11:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it ok, so LDAP doesn't seem to work Try installing a localhost, but setting the LDAP to be the settings in the database Does that connect? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Adam Read > wrote: I have looked at the database. The LDAP tables look the same as before (as far as I can tell). Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy Sent: 15 November 2013 17:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgraded to XOT 2.1 - worked and then broke it Hello, Guessing that "save" has broken something. If it is logging in that's not working, I would suggest going into the DB via something other than management and checking for settings. Pat On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all Hope you can help! Just upgraded our XOT installation to 2.1 using the 2.1 ZIP and 2.1_update zip from the community site. I did the following: (0) Backed up XOT 2.0 installation 1) Extracted 2.1 zip and copied files over top of XOT installation 2) Extracted 2.1 update zip and copied over top of XOT installation 3) Tried to login to XOT via browser - logged me in as a Guest 4) Edited auth_config and commented out guest, opted for Ldap. 5) Successfully logged in OK and could see my own content 6) Logged in to Management.php to tweak some of the help text, clicked "save" 7) Could no longer login to index.php 8) Reverted changes in mangement.php - saved 9) Still couldn't login to index 10) Repeated steps 1 and 2 and then 4 to overwrite files 11) Still can't login. I'm a bit stuck! As far as I can tell the Ldap settings inside management.php and the MySQL database look fine. Can't see any errors, cleared cash, tried 3 different browsers. Hmmmm? Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University of St Mark & St John This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte [http://www.marjon.ac.uk/media/marjon/promotions/email-signature/Email_Signature_Image.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk Tue Nov 26 11:56:08 2013 From: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk (Nagus, Ruth) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:56:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot In-Reply-To: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75B7A5A@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> References: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75B7A5A@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BEDAC@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> Hi everyone I hope you can help. I have recently created the maxos "memory stick" version of xot and it appear to be working fine on my windows 7 desktop. I have been sent a learning object by Karl Drinkwater and I have been trying to import that object into my mobile xot. I have successfully imported the object but when I click preview or edit, the pane opens but is blank. I am assuming that maybe I do not have the appropriate template in my version of xot? Karl has sent a file called "page templates.xtp" separately from the zip of the learning object. Is the (lack of) template the cause and if so how do I upload the template file into my "memory stick" version of xot? I have worked out that I need to go to the management area of xot and have found my way to http://localhost/toolkits/management.php I have found my way to where it says ***************************************************** To add a template to your xot installation, please upload the template using ftp and press the button below to update **************************************************** There doesn't seem to be any instructions relating to the "stick" version. Presumably all I need to do is put the file somewhere on the stick? I have no idea where the instructions above are suggesting the file be "ftp-ed" to. I have searched the memory stick for other files with the extension .xtp but without success. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong. Thank you for any help anyone can provide. Regards Ruth [cid:image001.png at 01CEEA9E.7E34E090] Ruth Nagus MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA Technology Enhanced Learning Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure Liverpool John Moores University I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD t: 01512315343 e: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk w: www.ljmu.ac.uk ________________________________ Important Notice: the information in this email and any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to an intended recipient, you should delete it from your system immediately without disclosing its contents elsewhere and advise the sender by returning the email or by telephoning a number contained in the body of the email. No responsibility is accepted for loss or damage arising from viruses or changes made to this message after it was sent. The views contained in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Liverpool John Moores University. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 2780 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Nov 26 23:51:03 2013 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:51:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot In-Reply-To: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BEDAC@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> References: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75B7A5A@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BEDAC@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <529533E7.50607@tor.nl> Look in the USER-FILES folder. Each LO is listed there. You can find the correct folder by checking the id number or look at the media and quota tab in properties. Check whther there is an empty perview.xml file in the imported LO. If there is, copy the data.xml over the preview.xml. Can you preview the LO now? Tom P.S. This bug has been fixed in 2.1 Nagus, Ruth schreef op 26-11-2013 12:56: > > Hi everyone > > I hope you can help. I have recently created the maxos "memory stick" > version of xot and it appear to be working fine on my windows 7 desktop. > > I have been sent a learning object by Karl Drinkwater and I have been > trying to import that object into my mobile xot. > > I have successfully imported the object but when I click preview or > edit, the pane opens but is blank. > > I am assuming that maybe I do not have the appropriate template in my > version of xot? > > Karl has sent a file called "page templates.xtp" separately from the > zip of the learning object. > > Is the (lack of) template the cause and if so how do I upload the > template file into my "memory stick" version of xot? > > I have worked out that I need to go to the management area of xot and > have found my way to http://localhost/toolkits/management.php > > I have found my way to where it says > > ***************************************************** > > To add a template to your xot installation, please upload the template > using ftp and press the button below to update > > **************************************************** > > There doesn't seem to be any instructions relating to the "stick" > version. Presumably all I need to do is put the file somewhere on the > stick? I have no idea where the instructions above are suggesting the > file be "ftp-ed" to. > > I have searched the memory stick for other files with the extension > .xtp but without success. > > Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong. > > Thank you for any help anyone can provide. > > Regards > > Ruth > > > *Ruth Nagus* /MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA/ > Technology Enhanced Learning > Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure > > Liverpool John Moores University > I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD > *t:* 01512315343 *e:* R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk > *w:* www.ljmu.ac.uk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > */Important Notice:/*///the information in this email and any > attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you > are not an intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering > it to an intended recipient, you should delete it from your system > immediately without disclosing its contents elsewhere and advise the > sender by returning the email or by telephoning a number contained in > the body of the email. No responsibility is accepted for loss or > damage arising from viruses or changes made to this message after it > was sent. The views contained in this email are those of the author > and not necessarily those of Liverpool John Moores University.///////// > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 2780 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 27 09:36:07 2013 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:36:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot In-Reply-To: <529533E7.50607@tor.nl> References: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75B7A5A@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BEDAC@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> <529533E7.50607@tor.nl> Message-ID: Looking at earlier posts by Karl Drinkwater, he used the desktop version of Xerte for quite a while. He may well have moved over now to XOT now, but it may be worth checking that the learning object was created in XOT and not desktop Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 November 2013 23:51, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Look in the USER-FILES folder. Each LO is listed there. You can find the > correct folder by checking the id number or look at the media and quota tab > in properties. > > Check whther there is an empty perview.xml file in the imported LO. If > there is, copy the data.xml over the preview.xml. Can you preview the LO > now? > > Tom > > P.S. This bug has been fixed in 2.1 > > Nagus, Ruth schreef op 26-11-2013 12:56: > > Hi everyone > > I hope you can help. I have recently created the maxos ?memory stick? > version of xot and it appear to be working fine on my windows 7 desktop. > > I have been sent a learning object by Karl Drinkwater and I have been > trying to import that object into my mobile xot. > > > > I have successfully imported the object but when I click preview or edit,the pane opens but is blank. > > I am assuming that maybe I do not have the appropriate template in my > version of xot? > > Karl has sent a file called ?page templates.xtp? separately from the zip > of the learning object. > > > > Is the (lack of) template the cause and if so how do I upload the template > file into my ?memory stick? version of xot? > > > > I have worked out that I need to go to the management area of xot and have > found my way to http://localhost/toolkits/management.php > > > > I have found my way to where it says > > ***************************************************** > > To add a template to your xot installation, please upload the template > using ftp and press the button below to update > > **************************************************** > > There doesn?t seem to be any instructions relating to the ?stick? version. > Presumably all I need to do is put the file somewhere on the stick? I have > no idea where the instructions above are suggesting the file be ?ftp-ed? to. > > I have searched the memory stick for other files with the extension .xtp > but without success. > > Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong. > > Thank you for any help anyone can provide. > > Regards > > Ruth > > > > > *Ruth Nagus* *MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA* > Technology Enhanced Learning > Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure > > > Liverpool John Moores University > I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD > *t:* 01512315343 *e:* R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk > *w:* www.ljmu.ac.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *Important Notice:** the information in this email and any attachments is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 2780 bytes Desc: not available URL: From R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk Wed Nov 27 09:43:32 2013 From: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk (Nagus, Ruth) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:43:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot In-Reply-To: <529533E7.50607@tor.nl> References: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75B7A5A@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BEDAC@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> <529533E7.50607@tor.nl> Message-ID: <8114D00918BE97438FD7D4E5C699E37FA75BF535@EXMB4.jmu.ac.uk> Hi Tom Thank you for your reply, I have checked through the USER-FILES folder and as far as I can tell, I have a folder with just an empty preview.xml file and an empty media folder but no data file , I also have a few folders with both empty data and preview xml files, I assume they are other attempts to upload the object. Could someone send me a file that definitely should import so I can test it to check Johnathan's reply? Thanks Ruth [cid:image001.png at 01CEEB54.42936820] Ruth Nagus MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA Technology Enhanced Learning Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure Liverpool John Moores University I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD t: 01512315343 e: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk w: www.ljmu.ac.uk From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 November 2013 23:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot Look in the USER-FILES folder. Each LO is listed there. You can find the correct folder by checking the id number or look at the media and quota tab in properties. Check whther there is an empty perview.xml file in the imported LO. If there is, copy the data.xml over the preview.xml. Can you preview the LO now? Tom P.S. This bug has been fixed in 2.1 Nagus, Ruth schreef op 26-11-2013 12:56: Hi everyone I hope you can help. I have recently created the maxos "memory stick" version of xot and it appear to be working fine on my windows 7 desktop. I have been sent a learning object by Karl Drinkwater and I have been trying to import that object into my mobile xot. I have successfully imported the object but when I click preview or edit, the pane opens but is blank. I am assuming that maybe I do not have the appropriate template in my version of xot? Karl has sent a file called "page templates.xtp" separately from the zip of the learning object. Is the (lack of) template the cause and if so how do I upload the template file into my "memory stick" version of xot? I have worked out that I need to go to the management area of xot and have found my way to http://localhost/toolkits/management.php I have found my way to where it says ***************************************************** To add a template to your xot installation, please upload the template using ftp and press the button below to update **************************************************** There doesn't seem to be any instructions relating to the "stick" version. Presumably all I need to do is put the file somewhere on the stick? I have no idea where the instructions above are suggesting the file be "ftp-ed" to. I have searched the memory stick for other files with the extension .xtp but without success. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong. Thank you for any help anyone can provide. Regards Ruth [cid:image001.png at 01CEEB54.42936820] Ruth Nagus MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA Technology Enhanced Learning Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure Liverpool John Moores University I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD t: 01512315343 e: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk w: www.ljmu.ac.uk ________________________________ Important Notice: the information in this email and any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to an intended recipient, you should delete it from your system immediately without disclosing its contents elsewhere and advise the sender by returning the email or by telephoning a number contained in the body of the email. No responsibility is accepted for loss or damage arising from viruses or changes made to this message after it was sent. 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I have only recently downloaded the maxos version and I think I have 2.0 Regards Ruth [cid:image001.png at 01CEEB55.5F2E9940] Ruth Nagus MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA Technology Enhanced Learning Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure Liverpool John Moores University I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD t: 01512315343 e: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk w: www.ljmu.ac.uk From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 26 November 2013 23:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xot mobile version problem with templates and importing objects from a different xot Look in the USER-FILES folder. Each LO is listed there. You can find the correct folder by checking the id number or look at the media and quota tab in properties. Check whther there is an empty perview.xml file in the imported LO. If there is, copy the data.xml over the preview.xml. Can you preview the LO now? Tom P.S. This bug has been fixed in 2.1 Nagus, Ruth schreef op 26-11-2013 12:56: Hi everyone I hope you can help. I have recently created the maxos "memory stick" version of xot and it appear to be working fine on my windows 7 desktop. I have been sent a learning object by Karl Drinkwater and I have been trying to import that object into my mobile xot. I have successfully imported the object but when I click preview or edit, the pane opens but is blank. I am assuming that maybe I do not have the appropriate template in my version of xot? Karl has sent a file called "page templates.xtp" separately from the zip of the learning object. Is the (lack of) template the cause and if so how do I upload the template file into my "memory stick" version of xot? I have worked out that I need to go to the management area of xot and have found my way to http://localhost/toolkits/management.php I have found my way to where it says ***************************************************** To add a template to your xot installation, please upload the template using ftp and press the button below to update **************************************************** There doesn't seem to be any instructions relating to the "stick" version. Presumably all I need to do is put the file somewhere on the stick? I have no idea where the instructions above are suggesting the file be "ftp-ed" to. I have searched the memory stick for other files with the extension .xtp but without success. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong. Thank you for any help anyone can provide. Regards Ruth [cid:image001.png at 01CEEB55.5F2E9940] Ruth Nagus MSc PGCert BSc Cert Ed FHEA Technology Enhanced Learning Faculty of Education, Community and Leisure Liverpool John Moores University I M Marsh Campus, Barkhill Road, Liverpool, L17 6BD t: 01512315343 e: R.Nagus at ljmu.ac.uk w: www.ljmu.ac.uk ________________________________ Important Notice: the information in this email and any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to an intended recipient, you should delete it from your system immediately without disclosing its contents elsewhere and advise the sender by returning the email or by telephoning a number contained in the body of the email. No responsibility is accepted for loss or damage arising from viruses or changes made to this message after it was sent. The views contained in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Liverpool John Moores University. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This server is: elm.palepurple.co.uk Many thanks. [cid:image001.gif at 01CDFD51.55815510] Mohamed Abdul karim Learning Centre Facilitator Learner Experience Team Mohamed.Abdulkarim at westking.ac.uk Westminster Kingsway College Kings Cross Learning Resources Centre 211 Grays Inn Road London WC1X 8RA Direct line: 020 7832 5005 Switchboard: 0870 060 9801 Study Skills | e-Resources | Online Catalogue | www.westking.ac.uk For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com
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