From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Sep 1 11:42:28 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:42:28 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's why the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new. If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a function in the editor to toggle this on or off Tom Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > I haven't looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the > editor to create scripts and add them in? > > When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo > file so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to > an .rlo file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I haven't looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the > editor to create scripts and add them in? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 31 August 2012 15:37 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop > > Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the > project automagically? > > The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic. > > The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make > changes to that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for > the models to work could be created, but would you want to replace > the project's original .rlo file and risk losing code that might > have been added to the original .rlo file? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Oh, that's right, you need to instantiate the project as a project > that uses pages. > > Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the > project automagically? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:41 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop > > > 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project > 2. Choose folder, and open new project > > Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a > text page worked fine.) > > Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Same here. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:07 > *To:* Xerte list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop > > 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m. > > File New > > Save > > Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling > > Open the Wizard? > No > > dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and > has nothing attached) > > Preview (2 blank pages) > > Double click page and start wizard > > Select image > > Add 3 hotspots > > Preview (2 blank pages) > > debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > I am still using the beta. > > I will down load it and take a look. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett > wrote: > > >The new Xerte 2.18 > > That's why it's problematic. > > That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m. > > According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100 > > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > Hello Dave, > > Sorry for the confusion. > > The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte > download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when > unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained > several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm > and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte > that has been retired. > > The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd > that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model > for each page. Look in > > Xerte \ pages \ models > > \ wizards \ en-GB > > to find them. > > Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had > its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its > data was enclosed in > > tags > > so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the > xml to an object was "learningObject" > > All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data > enclosed in tags so the top level node in the > object is "pageWizard" > > It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as > long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement > the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from > using "learningObject" as that is what is used in > pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a > whole Xerte project and not just for one page. > > The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates > (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is > only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the > pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own > xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-) > > Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used > in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the > structure of the xml file differs between the single page for > Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for > all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project. > > The opening section of the rlm file > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new > XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively > strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the > model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be > identical for both environments. > > The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in > the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not > an issue at the time. > > What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code > that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install > to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. > Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead > uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I > think this parser looks for the and tags > that are contained in the individual xwd files to help > identify the relevant sections to include when building the > template.xwd file. > > You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New > > However if you do so and then try using any of the existing > model files you will run into a number of issues such as > missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and > some supporting code that is shared by several of the models > e.g. narration support will not exist in your project. > > Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create > New Page Project then all the items needed to support the > models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes > sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new > page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that > has some of the features you want in your page you can add > extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml > file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can > modify the page's structure to consume the new data. > > By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages > you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT > if you wish to do that. > > I hope that is a bit clearer. > > KInd regards > > Johnathan > > On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett > wrote: > > Thanks Johnathan. > > I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the > drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter. > > so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just > > pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; > > > to get the data loaded. > > Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard > > I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. > > The new model files use > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new > XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop > Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which > enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. > The idea being that people will be able to develop new page > types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. > > Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the > creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same > steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett > wrote: > > I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and > all!). > > I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. > > Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need > to get test data into it. > > So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. > > In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: > > if (extXML == undefined){ > > // Page Wizard > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > > Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, > won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? > > What I need to do obviously is get data into > pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Sep 1 14:38:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:38:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop In-Reply-To: <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> Message-ID: The learning object has a property "pages" which is set to "true" in a pages project. This property does not exist in a "normal" project. I don't know if that could be used to enable the distinction to be made? I can't help wondering if we should be offering the opportunity to create all three types of projects from the File / New menu, since with most software this is how you create a new document or whatever data object the software creates. For example File / New / Xerte standard project Xerte pages project Tookits style project (pageTemplates project) Would this be more easily understood and user friendly than having some create project options in the separate (and perhaps less intuitive) pages menu? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 September 2012 11:42, Tom Reijnders wrote: > At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based > project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's why > the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new. > > If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page > project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a > pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a > function in the editor to toggle this on or off > > Tom > > Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor > to create scripts and add them in? > > When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo file > so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to an .rlo > file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the >> editor to create scripts and add them in? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 15:37 >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project >> automagically? >> >> >> >> The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic. >> >> >> >> The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make changes to >> that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for the models to work >> could be created, but would you want to replace the project's original .rlo >> file and risk losing code that might have been added to the original .rlo >> file? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Oh, that?s right, you need to instantiate the project as a project that >> uses pages. >> >> >> >> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project >> automagically? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:41 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> >> 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project >> 2. Choose folder, and open new project >> >> Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a text page >> worked fine.) >> >> Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Same here. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:07 >> *To:* Xerte list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m. >> >> >> >> File New >> >> Save >> >> Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling >> >> Open the Wizard? > No >> >> dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and has >> nothing attached) >> >> Preview (2 blank pages) >> >> Double click page and start wizard >> >> Select image >> >> Add 3 hotspots >> >> Preview (2 blank pages) >> >> debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> I am still using the beta. >> >> >> >> I will down load it and take a look. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >The new Xerte 2.18 >> >> >> >> That's why it's problematic. >> >> That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m. >> >> According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100 >> >> >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> Hello Dave, >> >> >> >> Sorry for the confusion. >> >> >> >> The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They >> were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of >> folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file >> defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to >> Xerte that has been retired. >> >> >> >> The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that >> defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. >> Look in >> >> >> >> Xerte \ pages \ models >> >> \ wizards \ en-GB >> >> >> >> to find them. >> >> >> >> Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml >> file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in >> >> tags >> >> >> >> so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an >> object was "learningObject" >> >> >> >> All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in >> tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" >> >> >> >> It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you >> are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page >> templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is >> what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data >> for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. >> >> >> >> The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide >> template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that >> contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project >> each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck >> eggs :-) >> >> >> >> Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either >> Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file >> differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file >> containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of >> project. >> >> >> >> The opening section of the rlm file >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> >> >> >> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ >> // Page Wizard >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> } else { >> // Toolkits >> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> >> } >> >> >> >> resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out >> the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to >> pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. >> >> >> >> The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop >> Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. >> >> >> >> What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will >> parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new >> template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use >> individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms >> for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and >> tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help >> identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd >> file. >> >> >> >> You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New >> >> >> >> However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files >> you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, >> rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is >> shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in >> your project. >> >> >> >> Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page >> Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in >> your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and >> then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a >> page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra >> fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it >> is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to >> consume the new data. >> >> >> >> By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will >> ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. >> >> >> >> I hope that is a bit clearer. >> >> >> >> KInd regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Johnathan. >> >> >> >> I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I >> am trying to alter. >> >> >> >> so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just >> >> >> >> pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; >> >> >> to get the data loaded. >> >> >> >> Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard >> >> I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> >> >> You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. >> >> >> >> The new model files use >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> >> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ >> // Page Wizard >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> } else { >> // Toolkits >> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> >> } >> >> >> >> A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets >> >> >> >> rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; >> >> >> >> This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte >> project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model >> file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be >> able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT >> environment. >> >> >> >> Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation >> of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you >> as to what else you need to do. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). >> >> >> >> I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. >> >> >> >> Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get >> test data into it. >> >> >> >> So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. >> >> >> >> In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: >> >> >> >> if (extXML == undefined){ >> >> // Page Wizard >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> >> >> >> Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, >> won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? >> >> >> >> What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in >> order to get the model to function. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 14:45:38 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 09:45:38 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, Message-ID: >the opportunity to create all three types of projects from the File / New menu, That the ticket. New > File > Blank > Pages > whatever Same as how Word works, and Microsoft spent a few million on UI development.Who are we to argue?;-) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:38:58 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop The learning object has a property "pages" which is set to "true" in a pages project. This property does not exist in a "normal" project. I don't know if that could be used to enable the distinction to be made? I can't help wondering if we should be offering the opportunity to create all three types of projects from the File / New menu, since with most software this is how you create a new document or whatever data object the software creates. For example File / New / Xerte standard project Xerte pages project Tookits style project (pageTemplates project) Would this be more easily understood and user friendly than having some create project options in the separate (and perhaps less intuitive) pages menu? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 September 2012 11:42, Tom Reijnders wrote: At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's why the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new. If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a function in the editor to toggle this on or off Tom Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor to create scripts and add them in? When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo file so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to an .rlo file. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney wrote: I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor to create scripts and add them in? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 August 2012 15:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project automagically? The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic. The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make changes to that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for the models to work could be created, but would you want to replace the project's original .rlo file and risk losing code that might have been added to the original .rlo file? Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney wrote: Oh, that?s right, you need to instantiate the project as a project that uses pages. Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project automagically? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 31 August 2012 14:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project 2. Choose folder, and open new project Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a text page worked fine.) Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef: Same here. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 August 2012 14:07 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m. File New Save Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling Open the Wizard? > No dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and has nothing attached) Preview (2 blank pages) Double click page and start wizard Select image Add 3 hotspots Preview (2 blank pages) debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question I am still using the beta. I will down load it and take a look. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett wrote: >The new Xerte 2.18 That's why it's problematic. That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m. According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question Hello Dave, Sorry for the confusion. The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte that has been retired. The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in Xerte \ pages \ models \ wizards \ en-GB to find them. Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in tags so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an object was "learningObject" All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-) Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project. The opening section of the rlm file pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd file. You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in your project. Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to consume the new data. By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. I hope that is a bit clearer. KInd regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: Thanks Johnathan. I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter. so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; to get the data loaded. Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. The new model files use pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test data into it. So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Sep 1 16:22:05 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:22:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop In-Reply-To: <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> Message-ID: Is the file extension something that would be easy to test for in the script for a page? If so then changing the file extension for page projects to something like .rlp would provide a reliable test that could be used to switch the model files from tookits mode to pages mode without the need for any variable setting in the .rlo or rlp file. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 September 2012 11:42, Tom Reijnders wrote: > At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based > project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's why > the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new. > > If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page > project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a > pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a > function in the editor to toggle this on or off > > Tom > > Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor > to create scripts and add them in? > > When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo file > so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to an .rlo > file. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the >> editor to create scripts and add them in? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 15:37 >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project >> automagically? >> >> >> >> The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic. >> >> >> >> The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make changes to >> that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for the models to work >> could be created, but would you want to replace the project's original .rlo >> file and risk losing code that might have been added to the original .rlo >> file? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Oh, that?s right, you need to instantiate the project as a project that >> uses pages. >> >> >> >> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project >> automagically? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:41 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> >> 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project >> 2. Choose folder, and open new project >> >> Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a text page >> worked fine.) >> >> Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> Same here. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:07 >> *To:* Xerte list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop >> >> >> >> 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m. >> >> >> >> File New >> >> Save >> >> Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling >> >> Open the Wizard? > No >> >> dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and has >> nothing attached) >> >> Preview (2 blank pages) >> >> Double click page and start wizard >> >> Select image >> >> Add 3 hotspots >> >> Preview (2 blank pages) >> >> debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> I am still using the beta. >> >> >> >> I will down load it and take a look. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >The new Xerte 2.18 >> >> >> >> That's why it's problematic. >> >> That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m. >> >> According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100 >> >> >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> Hello Dave, >> >> >> >> Sorry for the confusion. >> >> >> >> The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They >> were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of >> folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file >> defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to >> Xerte that has been retired. >> >> >> >> The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that >> defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. >> Look in >> >> >> >> Xerte \ pages \ models >> >> \ wizards \ en-GB >> >> >> >> to find them. >> >> >> >> Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml >> file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in >> >> tags >> >> >> >> so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an >> object was "learningObject" >> >> >> >> All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in >> tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" >> >> >> >> It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you >> are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page >> templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is >> what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data >> for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. >> >> >> >> The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide >> template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that >> contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project >> each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck >> eggs :-) >> >> >> >> Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either >> Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file >> differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file >> containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of >> project. >> >> >> >> The opening section of the rlm file >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> >> >> >> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ >> // Page Wizard >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> } else { >> // Toolkits >> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> >> } >> >> >> >> resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out >> the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to >> pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. >> >> >> >> The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop >> Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. >> >> >> >> What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will >> parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new >> template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use >> individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms >> for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and >> tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help >> identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd >> file. >> >> >> >> You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New >> >> >> >> However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files >> you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, >> rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is >> shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in >> your project. >> >> >> >> Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page >> Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in >> your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and >> then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a >> page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra >> fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it >> is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to >> consume the new data. >> >> >> >> By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will >> ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. >> >> >> >> I hope that is a bit clearer. >> >> >> >> KInd regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Johnathan. >> >> >> >> I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I >> am trying to alter. >> >> >> >> so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just >> >> >> >> pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; >> >> >> to get the data loaded. >> >> >> >> Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard >> >> I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question >> >> >> >> You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. >> >> >> >> The new model files use >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> >> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ >> // Page Wizard >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> } else { >> // Toolkits >> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> >> } >> >> >> >> A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets >> >> >> >> rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; >> >> >> >> This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte >> project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model >> file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be >> able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT >> environment. >> >> >> >> Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation >> of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you >> as to what else you need to do. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). >> >> >> >> I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. >> >> >> >> Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get >> test data into it. >> >> >> >> So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. >> >> >> >> In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: >> >> >> >> if (extXML == undefined){ >> >> // Page Wizard >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; >> >> >> >> Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, >> won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? >> >> >> >> What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in >> order to get the model to function. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 16:32:18 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 11:32:18 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, , Message-ID: typo File > New > Blank > Pages > whatever From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 09:45:38 -0400 >the opportunity to create all three types of projects from the File / New menu, That the ticket. New > File > Blank > Pages > whatever Same as how Word works, and Microsoft spent a few million on UI development.Who are we to argue?;-) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:38:58 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop The learning object has a property "pages" which is set to "true" in a pages project. This property does not exist in a "normal" project. I don't know if that could be used to enable the distinction to be made? I can't help wondering if we should be offering the opportunity to create all three types of projects from the File / New menu, since with most software this is how you create a new document or whatever data object the software creates. For example File / New / Xerte standard project Xerte pages project Tookits style project (pageTemplates project) Would this be more easily understood and user friendly than having some create project options in the separate (and perhaps less intuitive) pages menu? Kind regards Johnathan On 1 September 2012 11:42, Tom Reijnders wrote: At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's why the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new. If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a function in the editor to toggle this on or off Tom Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef: I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor to create scripts and add them in? When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo file so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to an .rlo file. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney wrote: I haven?t looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the editor to create scripts and add them in? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 August 2012 15:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project automagically? The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic. The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make changes to that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for the models to work could be created, but would you want to replace the project's original .rlo file and risk losing code that might have been added to the original .rlo file? Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney wrote: Oh, that?s right, you need to instantiate the project as a project that uses pages. Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project automagically? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 31 August 2012 14:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project 2. Choose folder, and open new project Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a text page worked fine.) Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef: Same here. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 August 2012 14:07 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m. File New Save Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling Open the Wizard? > No dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and has nothing attached) Preview (2 blank pages) Double click page and start wizard Select image Add 3 hotspots Preview (2 blank pages) debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question I am still using the beta. I will down load it and take a look. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett wrote: >The new Xerte 2.18 That's why it's problematic. That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m. According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question Hello Dave, Sorry for the confusion. The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte that has been retired. The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in Xerte \ pages \ models \ wizards \ en-GB to find them. Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in tags so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an object was "learningObject" All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-) Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project. The opening section of the rlm file pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd file. You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in your project. Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to consume the new data. By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. I hope that is a bit clearer. KInd regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: Thanks Johnathan. I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter. so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; to get the data loaded. Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. The new model files use pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test data into it. So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Sep 3 12:44:51 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:44:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D2A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D3F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D453@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D4AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D517@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It is certainly worth someone looking at it. I am not trying to be unhelpful here but I am not well up on the "under the bonnet" stuff. If there is a way of setting things up so that a simple function call sets up pageIcon.templateData appropriate to the environment it is in (perhaps by checking the project file extension i.e. rlt or not rlt.) then this would simplify the models and might remove the need for additional flags in set up scripts of entry frames or adding project properties. However some of the pages e.g. the menu connector page have additional code in this section of the model that needs to be different depending on whether the page is in a pageTemplates / XOT environment or a Xerte environment and this would need to be handled in some way. So some pages might still need to begin with a block of code that could test the environment and then set things up accordingly. Ideally this test would be against a flag or indicator variable that had been set up automatically. Perhaps this automated setup could also trigger the the updating of the page icon's name and title properties when the xwd title is changed. Currently this is set to happen by adding the "pages = true" property to the learning object icon. This would make everything more automated. With respect to automation I have done some checking with regard to the minimum needed to get a page model working in a standard Xerte project. The bare minimum at present is to copy the common folder into the project folder, all other folders are already created automatically when needed (pages, media) Then a new property "pages" needs adding to the learning object with a value of true, and an entry frame needs adding with a single scriptcontaining the line rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This will provide enough to get the individual page templates working. However page specific features that depend on the availability of additional code such as narration, will not function. To have full functionality of all pages then using a "pages" project would be recommended. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 09:20, Julian Tenney wrote: > It would be much better to have this: > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > put somewhere in the engine, and to have the model initialise itself with > some sort of all to a function, maybe initModel(). Then the function can > handle the specifics, and users don?t need to see code that doesn?t concern > them, and we don?t have duplicate code in every model file. We have > discussed this before, I recall some challenges in trying to make it work. > Worth looking at again? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 August 2012 21:31 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were > produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of > folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file > defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to > Xerte that has been retired. > > > > The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines > the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in > > > > Xerte \ pages \ models > > \ wizards \ en-GB > > > > to find them. > > > > Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml > file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in > > tags > > > > so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an > object was "learningObject" > > > > All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in > tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" > > > > It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you > are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page > templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is > what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data > for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. > > > > The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide > template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that > contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project > each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck > eggs :-) > > > > Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either > Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file > differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file > containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of > project. > > > > The opening section of the rlm file > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out > the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to > pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. > > > > The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop > Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. > > > > What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will > parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new > template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use > individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms > for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and > tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help > identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd > file. > > > > You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New > > > > However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files > you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, > rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is > shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in > your project. > > > > Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page > Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in > your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and > then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a > page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra > fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it > is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to > consume the new data. > > > > By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will > ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. > > > > I hope that is a bit clearer. > > > > KInd regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > Thanks Johnathan. > > > > I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I > am trying to alter. > > > > so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just > > > > pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; > > > to get the data loaded. > > > > Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard > > I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. > > > > The new model files use > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. > This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to > be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to > develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. > > > > Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of > a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as > to what else you need to do. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). > > > > I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. > > > > Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test > data into it. > > > > So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. > > > > In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: > > > > if (extXML == undefined){ > > // Page Wizard > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > > > > Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, > won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? > > > > What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in > order to get the model to function. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Wed Sep 5 15:43:44 2012 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:43:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, , Message-ID: I have it, but I can't email a file that big. Do you have a site that I can FTP it to? 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 September 2012 12:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte No one? ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Archived versions of Xerte Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400 Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy? It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. Cheers, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 08:33:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:33:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D2A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D3F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D453@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D4AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D517@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >It is certainly worth someone looking at it It might well be, but thinking ahead to an HTML5 world, I can see us de-coupling XOT from Xerte, which would make it moot. We need to talk about this in October. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 03 September 2012 12:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question It is certainly worth someone looking at it. I am not trying to be unhelpful here but I am not well up on the "under the bonnet" stuff. If there is a way of setting things up so that a simple function call sets up pageIcon.templateData appropriate to the environment it is in (perhaps by checking the project file extension i.e. rlt or not rlt.) then this would simplify the models and might remove the need for additional flags in set up scripts of entry frames or adding project properties. However some of the pages e.g. the menu connector page have additional code in this section of the model that needs to be different depending on whether the page is in a pageTemplates / XOT environment or a Xerte environment and this would need to be handled in some way. So some pages might still need to begin with a block of code that could test the environment and then set things up accordingly. Ideally this test would be against a flag or indicator variable that had been set up automatically. Perhaps this automated setup could also trigger the the updating of the page icon's name and title properties when the xwd title is changed. Currently this is set to happen by adding the "pages = true" property to the learning object icon. This would make everything more automated. With respect to automation I have done some checking with regard to the minimum needed to get a page model working in a standard Xerte project. The bare minimum at present is to copy the common folder into the project folder, all other folders are already created automatically when needed (pages, media) Then a new property "pages" needs adding to the learning object with a value of true, and an entry frame needs adding with a single script containing the line rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This will provide enough to get the individual page templates working. However page specific features that depend on the availability of additional code such as narration, will not function. To have full functionality of all pages then using a "pages" project would be recommended. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 09:20, Julian Tenney > wrote: It would be much better to have this: pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } put somewhere in the engine, and to have the model initialise itself with some sort of all to a function, maybe initModel(). Then the function can handle the specifics, and users don't need to see code that doesn't concern them, and we don't have duplicate code in every model file. We have discussed this before, I recall some challenges in trying to make it work. Worth looking at again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 August 2012 21:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question Hello Dave, Sorry for the confusion. The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte that has been retired. The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in Xerte \ pages \ models \ wizards \ en-GB to find them. Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in tags so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an object was "learningObject" All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-) Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project. The opening section of the rlm file pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd file. You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in your project. Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to consume the new data. By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. I hope that is a bit clearer. KInd regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett > wrote: Thanks Johnathan. I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter. so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; to get the data loaded. Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. The new model files use pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett > wrote: I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test data into it. So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function. Cheers, Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 08:37:32 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:37:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> MIME Types? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% Hi We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 08:47:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:47:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sorry, easier way is to check out the svn, then do a show log on website/setup.exe, pick a date you want to go back to, note the revision number, then revert to revision. From: Tenney Julian Sent: 06 September 2012 08:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build from there. What are the issues? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 September 2012 12:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte No one? ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Archived versions of Xerte Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400 Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy? It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. Cheers, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 08:44:15 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:44:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: could well be - it is a new server. i'll take a look On 6 September 2012 08:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > MIME Types? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% > > Hi > > We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 08:52:26 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:52:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Probably will be. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 06 September 2012 08:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% could well be - it is a new server. i'll take a look On 6 September 2012 08:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > MIME Types? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% > > Hi > > We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 08:56:18 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:56:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If you access the resource via chrome, you can use chrome's console to see which file fails to load On 6 Sep 2012, at 08:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Probably will be. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 08:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% > > could well be - it is a new server. i'll take a look > > On 6 September 2012 08:37, Julian Tenney wrote: >> MIME Types? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood >> Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% >> >> Hi >> >> We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 09:06:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:06:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> New server? Stops at 99%? MIME types. Every time. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 September 2012 08:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% If you access the resource via chrome, you can use chrome's console to see which file fails to load On 6 Sep 2012, at 08:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Probably will be. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 08:44 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% > > could well be - it is a new server. i'll take a look > > On 6 September 2012 08:37, Julian Tenney wrote: >> MIME Types? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan >> Attwood >> Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% >> >> Hi >> >> We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 09:13:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:13:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677BF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067802@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <06EF5186-FA1A-4A88-AA21-FB9BA9EA63A3@googlemail.com> Or languages On 6 Sep 2012, at 09:06, Julian Tenney wrote: > New server? Stops at 99%? > > MIME types. Every time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 06 September 2012 08:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% > > If you access the resource via chrome, you can use chrome's console to see which file fails to load > > On 6 Sep 2012, at 08:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> Probably will be. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood >> Sent: 06 September 2012 08:44 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: stops at loading runtime engine 99% >> >> could well be - it is a new server. i'll take a look >> >> On 6 September 2012 08:37, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> MIME Types? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan >>> Attwood >>> Sent: 06 September 2012 08:30 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] stops at loading runtime engine 99% >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' . It then sticks at that point. I can't see anything in the error logs pertaining to this. Any ideas how i might fix this? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 6 10:26:53 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:26:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D2A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D3F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D453@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D4AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D517@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It seems ironic that we have just got to the point where Xerte and XOT use the same model and xwd files, and new pages developed in Xerte can be easily ported over to XOT at the same time as external factors are forcing the move of XOT to HTML5. October should be very interesting. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 September 2012 08:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > >It is certainly worth someone looking at it > > It might well be, but thinking ahead to an HTML5 world, I can see us > de-coupling XOT from Xerte, which would make it moot. We need to talk about > this in October. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 03 September 2012 12:45 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > It is certainly worth someone looking at it. I am not trying to be > unhelpful here but I am not well up on the "under the bonnet" stuff. > > > > If there is a way of setting things up so that a simple function call sets > up pageIcon.templateData appropriate to the environment it is in (perhaps > by checking the project file extension i.e. rlt or not rlt.) then this > would simplify the models and might remove the need for additional flags in > set up scripts of entry frames or adding project properties. > > > > However some of the pages e.g. the menu connector page have additional > code in this section of the model that needs to be different depending on > whether the page is in a pageTemplates / XOT environment or a Xerte > environment and this would need to be handled in some way. So some pages > might still need to begin with a block of code that could test the > environment and then set things up accordingly. Ideally this test would be > against a flag or indicator variable that had been set up automatically. > > > > Perhaps this automated setup could also trigger the the updating of the > page icon's name and title properties when the xwd title is changed. > Currently this is set to happen by adding the "pages = true" property to > the learning object icon. > > > > This would make everything more automated. > > > > With respect to automation I have done some checking with regard to the > minimum needed to get a page model working in a standard Xerte project. > > > > The bare minimum at present is to copy the common folder into the project > folder, all other folders are already created automatically when needed > (pages, media) > > > > Then a new property "pages" needs adding to the learning object with a > value of true, and an entry frame needs adding with a single scriptcontaining the line > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > This will provide enough to get the individual page templates working. > However page specific features that depend on the availability of > additional code such as narration, will not function. To have full > functionality of all pages then using a "pages" project would be > recommended. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 31 August 2012 09:20, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It would be much better to have this: > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > put somewhere in the engine, and to have the model initialise itself with > some sort of all to a function, maybe initModel(). Then the function can > handle the specifics, and users don?t need to see code that doesn?t concern > them, and we don?t have duplicate code in every model file. We have > discussed this before, I recall some challenges in trying to make it work. > Worth looking at again? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 August 2012 21:31 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were > produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of > folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file > defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to > Xerte that has been retired. > > > > The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines > the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in > > > > Xerte \ pages \ models > > \ wizards \ en-GB > > > > to find them. > > > > Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml > file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in > > tags > > > > so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an > object was "learningObject" > > > > All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in > tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" > > > > It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you > are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page > templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is > what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data > for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. > > > > The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide > template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that > contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project > each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck > eggs :-) > > > > Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either > Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file > differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file > containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of > project. > > > > The opening section of the rlm file > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out > the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to > pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. > > > > The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop > Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. > > > > What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will > parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new > template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use > individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms > for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and > tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help > identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd > file. > > > > You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New > > > > However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files > you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, > rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is > shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in > your project. > > > > Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page > Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in > your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and > then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a > page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra > fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it > is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to > consume the new data. > > > > By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will > ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. > > > > I hope that is a bit clearer. > > > > KInd regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > Thanks Johnathan. > > > > I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I > am trying to alter. > > > > so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just > > > > pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; > > > to get the data loaded. > > > > Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard > > I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. > > > > The new model files use > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. > This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to > be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to > develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. > > > > Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of > a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as > to what else you need to do. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). > > > > I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. > > > > Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test > data into it. > > > > So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. > > > > In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: > > > > if (extXML == undefined){ > > // Page Wizard > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > > > > Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, > won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? > > > > What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in > order to get the model to function. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 6 11:00:56 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:00:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: What are the issues? Based on email exchanges I had with Dave yesterday I would identify the following 1. Confusing methods of project creation At present 2.18 offers file \ new (for a standard xerte project) pages \ create template project from pages (for a page templates project) pages \ create new Pages Project (for a new pages type project) templates \ page templates (for a page templates project - using different files than the pages menu option) IMHO we need just file \ new \ xerte developer project \ xerte developer project with page models \ xerte author project and to remove the pageTemplates.xtp file from the install the options that create projects from the pages menu The descriptions to use in file \ new are debatable but I feel they need to make sense to both current Xerte users and XOT users who may want to take a look at Xerte. I am also aware of the potential for Xerte and XOT to separate off from each other as a result of the HTML 5 developments, hence the reference to author project rather than XOT style project. I have avoided the use of "page templates project" as this causes confusion with individual page template projects. 2. Two ways of generating the "page templates" type of project which access separate sets of resources. Developers who want to modify a page templates Project Template need to be sure which resources they need to be modifying. 3. Confusion over the Individual Page Templates because they can currently be added to a file / new created project which lacks the necessary support resources to enable them to function correctly. This has been compounded by a lack of a means of creating a "pages" project from the "file" menu. So Xerte users have followed a logical route of file / new followed by adding a page template that then fails to work through lack of resource. The Individual Page Templates need to be only offered to page type projects. The alternative of trying to add all the additional resources needed could get messy - but may be possible. The quickest solution is to disable the individual page templates when in an ordinary project. 4. Uncertainty resulting from recent discussions on this mail list to possible changes in the model files. To the above I would add 5. A lack of documentation to support the creation of a pages project. This is not strictly true, there is a fairly comprehensive pdf guide in the Xerte \ help folder. As there are for a number of the new page templates, but there is no link to them from the Xerte help, so unless a user searches them out they experience a lack of available documentation. 6. A lack of documentation regarding how to create a new page template. This is my fault. I have been holding back as I am unsure of the implications of the new html 5 project and had planned to produce something that would follow through from the creation of a new page template to its installation in XOT. 7. A lack of documentation to explain the use of the new menu features such as Pages \ Install Page Template; Templates \ Create Project Template; Templates \ Install Project Template. 8. A lack of information regarding the new language features. I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 September 2012 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build > from there. > > > > What are the issues? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 05 September 2012 12:34 > > *To:* Xerte list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte > > > > No one? > > > ------------------------------ > > From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Archived versions of Xerte > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400 > > Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy? > > It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:04:56 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:04:56 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The ones that came up recently.Being able to insert a model that will not work, for one. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:16:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build from there. What are the issues? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 September 2012 12:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte No one? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Archived versions of Xerte Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy?It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. Cheers,Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:12:53 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:12:53 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl>, , < BLU153-W45EE26FA59FBB9F225C4ECA7A90@phx.gbl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: > I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else. Yes.A thank you for all the time and effort you have expended on this transformation.It's too big an undertaking to not have some unforeseen issues, but they are minor in comparison to the functionality you have added.Thanks Johnathan! Dave Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:00:56 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte What are the issues? Based on email exchanges I had with Dave yesterday I would identify the following 1. Confusing methods of project creation At present 2.18 offers file \ new (for a standard xerte project)pages \ create template project from pages (for a page templates project) pages \ create new Pages Project (for a new pages type project) templates \ page templates (for a page templates project - using different files than the pages menu option) IMHO we need just file \ new \ xerte developer project \ xerte developer project with page models \ xerte author project and to removethe pageTemplates.xtp file from the install the options that create projects from the pages menu The descriptions to use in file \ new are debatable but I feel they need to make sense to both current Xerte users and XOT users who may want to take a look at Xerte. I am also aware of the potential for Xerte and XOT to separate off from each other as a result of the HTML 5 developments, hence the reference to author project rather than XOT style project. I have avoided the use of "page templates project" as this causes confusion with individual page template projects. 2. Two ways of generating the "page templates" type of project which access separate sets of resources. Developers who want to modify a page templates Project Template need to be sure which resources they need to be modifying. 3. Confusion over the Individual Page Templates because they can currently be added to a file / new created project which lacks the necessary support resources to enable them to function correctly. This has been compounded by a lack of a means of creating a "pages" project from the "file" menu. So Xerte users have followed a logical route of file / new followed by adding a page template that then fails to work through lack of resource. The Individual Page Templates need to be only offered to page type projects. The alternative of trying to add all the additional resources needed could get messy - but may be possible. The quickest solution is to disable the individual page templates when in an ordinary project. 4. Uncertainty resulting from recent discussions on this mail list to possible changes in the model files. To the above I would add 5. A lack of documentation to support the creation of a pages project. This is not strictly true, there is a fairly comprehensive pdf guide in the Xerte \ help folder. As there are for a number of the new page templates, but there is no link to them from the Xerte help, so unless a user searches them out they experience a lack of available documentation. 6. A lack of documentation regarding how to create a new page template. This is my fault. I have been holding back as I am unsure of the implications of the new html 5 project and had planned to produce something that would follow through from the creation of a new page template to its installation in XOT. 7. A lack of documentation to explain the use of the new menu features such as Pages \ Install Page Template; Templates \ Create Project Template; Templates \ Install Project Template. 8. A lack of information regarding the new language features. I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 September 2012 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build from there. What are the issues? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 September 2012 12:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte No one? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Archived versions of Xerte Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400 Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy?It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. 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It's still stalling at Loading Runtime Engine 99% though Dan From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 11:16:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:16:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D06791F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Swf? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 06 September 2012 11:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] loading runtime engine 99% I have the following in my mime types section: AddType text/html .php AddType text/xml .xwd AddType text/xml .rlm AddType text/xml .rlt AddType text/xml .rlo AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv and I've rebooted apache. It's still stalling at Loading Runtime Engine 99% though Dan _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:18:17 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:18:17 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D06791F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D06791F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: What PL said.Languages folder.That one stumped me once. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:16:12 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > Swf? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] loading runtime engine 99% > > I have the following in my mime types section: > > > AddType text/html .php > AddType text/xml .xwd > AddType text/xml .rlm > AddType text/xml .rlt > AddType text/xml .rlo > AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv > > and I've rebooted apache. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 6 11:19:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:19:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5040BECF.2060203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9770@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF97CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5041E694.9070006@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067796@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thank you Dave. I really have to clarify here though that whilst I have been beavering away on the models and xwds, extracting the language strings and adding some new page types, Tom and Julian have been doing (what to me at least) is the hard stuff. I know Tom has put a massive effort into the Xerte interface and the language side of things. I don't know so much about the XOT side of the development but this has been a team effort, to which I have been happy to make some contribution. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 September 2012 11:12, Dave Burnett wrote: > > I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else. > > Yes. > A thank you for all the time and effort you have expended on this > transformation. > It's too big an undertaking to not have some unforeseen issues, but they > are minor in comparison to the functionality you have added. > Thanks Johnathan! > > Dave > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:00:56 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte > > What are the issues? > > Based on email exchanges I had with Dave yesterday I would identify the > following > > 1. Confusing methods of project creation > > At present 2.18 offers > > file \ new (for a standard xerte project) > pages \ create template project from pages (for a page templates project) > pages \ create new Pages Project (for a new pages type project) > templates \ page templates (for a page templates project - using different > files than the pages menu option) > > IMHO we need just > > file \ new \ xerte developer project > \ xerte developer project with page models > \ xerte author project > > and to remove > the pageTemplates.xtp file from the install > the options that create projects from the pages menu > > The descriptions to use in file \ new are debatable but I feel they need > to make sense to both current Xerte users and XOT users who may want to > take a look at Xerte. I am also aware of the potential for Xerte and XOT to > separate off from each other as a result of the HTML 5 developments, hence > the reference to author project rather than XOT style project. I have > avoided the use of "page templates project" as this causes confusion with > individual page template projects. > > 2. Two ways of generating the "page templates" type of project which > access separate sets of resources. Developers who want to modify a page > templates Project Template need to be sure which resources they need to be > modifying. > > 3. Confusion over the Individual Page Templates because they can currently > be added to a file / new created project which lacks the necessary support > resources to enable them to function correctly. This has been compounded by > a lack of a means of creating a "pages" project from the "file" menu. So > Xerte users have followed a logical route of file / new followed by adding > a page template that then fails to work through lack of resource. The > Individual Page Templates need to be only offered to page type projects. > The alternative of trying to add all the additional resources needed could > get messy - but may be possible. The quickest solution is to disable the > individual page templates when in an ordinary project. > > 4. Uncertainty resulting from recent discussions on this mail list to > possible changes in the model files. > > To the above I would add > > 5. A lack of documentation to support the creation of a pages project. > This is not strictly true, there is a fairly comprehensive pdf guide in the > Xerte \ help folder. As there are for a number of the new page templates, > but there is no link to them from the Xerte help, so unless a user searches > them out they experience a lack of available documentation. > > 6. A lack of documentation regarding how to create a new page template. > This is my fault. I have been holding back as I am unsure of the > implications of the new html 5 project and had planned to produce something > that would follow through from the creation of a new page template to its > installation in XOT. > > 7. A lack of documentation to explain the use of the new menu features > such as Pages \ Install Page Template; Templates \ Create Project Template; > Templates \ Install Project Template. > > 8. A lack of information regarding the new language features. > > I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 6 September 2012 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > > You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build > from there. > > > > What are the issues? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 05 September 2012 12:34 > > *To:* Xerte list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte > > > > No one? > > > ------------------------------ > > From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Archived versions of Xerte > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400 > > Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy? > > It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 September 2012 10:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question It seems ironic that we have just got to the point where Xerte and XOT use the same model and xwd files, and new pages developed in Xerte can be easily ported over to XOT at the same time as external factors are forcing the move of XOT to HTML5. October should be very interesting. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 September 2012 08:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: >It is certainly worth someone looking at it It might well be, but thinking ahead to an HTML5 world, I can see us de-coupling XOT from Xerte, which would make it moot. We need to talk about this in October. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 03 September 2012 12:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question It is certainly worth someone looking at it. I am not trying to be unhelpful here but I am not well up on the "under the bonnet" stuff. If there is a way of setting things up so that a simple function call sets up pageIcon.templateData appropriate to the environment it is in (perhaps by checking the project file extension i.e. rlt or not rlt.) then this would simplify the models and might remove the need for additional flags in set up scripts of entry frames or adding project properties. However some of the pages e.g. the menu connector page have additional code in this section of the model that needs to be different depending on whether the page is in a pageTemplates / XOT environment or a Xerte environment and this would need to be handled in some way. So some pages might still need to begin with a block of code that could test the environment and then set things up accordingly. Ideally this test would be against a flag or indicator variable that had been set up automatically. Perhaps this automated setup could also trigger the the updating of the page icon's name and title properties when the xwd title is changed. Currently this is set to happen by adding the "pages = true" property to the learning object icon. This would make everything more automated. With respect to automation I have done some checking with regard to the minimum needed to get a page model working in a standard Xerte project. The bare minimum at present is to copy the common folder into the project folder, all other folders are already created automatically when needed (pages, media) Then a new property "pages" needs adding to the learning object with a value of true, and an entry frame needs adding with a single script containing the line rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This will provide enough to get the individual page templates working. However page specific features that depend on the availability of additional code such as narration, will not function. To have full functionality of all pages then using a "pages" project would be recommended. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 August 2012 09:20, Julian Tenney > wrote: It would be much better to have this: pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } put somewhere in the engine, and to have the model initialise itself with some sort of all to a function, maybe initModel(). Then the function can handle the specifics, and users don't need to see code that doesn't concern them, and we don't have duplicate code in every model file. We have discussed this before, I recall some challenges in trying to make it work. Worth looking at again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 30 August 2012 21:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question Hello Dave, Sorry for the confusion. The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte that has been retired. The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in Xerte \ pages \ models \ wizards \ en-GB to find them. Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in tags so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an object was "learningObject" All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-) Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project. The opening section of the rlm file pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd file. You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in your project. Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to consume the new data. By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. I hope that is a bit clearer. KInd regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett > wrote: Thanks Johnathan. I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter. so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; to get the data loaded. Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. The new model files use pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; } else { // Toolkits myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); } A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett > wrote: I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test data into it. So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? 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It's still stalling at Loading Runtime > Engine 99% though > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:27:40 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:27:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > what does Chrome fail on, chrome will show red for the files it can't load > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: >> I have the following in my mime types section: >> >> >> AddType text/html .php >> AddType text/xml .xwd >> AddType text/xml .rlm >> AddType text/xml .rlt >> AddType text/xml .rlo >> AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv >> >> and I've rebooted apache. It's still stalling at Loading Runtime >> Engine 99% though >> >> Dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 6 11:28:55 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:28:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067927@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D2A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D3F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D453@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D4AF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D517@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D56E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF9559@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0677B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067927@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: A curse on you Nayland Smith, the world shall here from me again (exit to evil laughter) On 6 September 2012 11:19, Julian Tenney wrote: > We live in interesting times? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 September 2012 10:27 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > It seems ironic that we have just got to the point where Xerte and XOT use > the same model and xwd files, and new pages developed in Xerte can be > easily ported over to XOT at the same time as external factors are forcing > the move of XOT to HTML5. > > > > October should be very interesting. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 6 September 2012 08:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > >It is certainly worth someone looking at it > > It might well be, but thinking ahead to an HTML5 world, I can see us > de-coupling XOT from Xerte, which would make it moot. We need to talk about > this in October. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 03 September 2012 12:45 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > It is certainly worth someone looking at it. I am not trying to be > unhelpful here but I am not well up on the "under the bonnet" stuff. > > > > If there is a way of setting things up so that a simple function call sets > up pageIcon.templateData appropriate to the environment it is in (perhaps > by checking the project file extension i.e. rlt or not rlt.) then this > would simplify the models and might remove the need for additional flags in > set up scripts of entry frames or adding project properties. > > > > However some of the pages e.g. the menu connector page have additional > code in this section of the model that needs to be different depending on > whether the page is in a pageTemplates / XOT environment or a Xerte > environment and this would need to be handled in some way. So some pages > might still need to begin with a block of code that could test the > environment and then set things up accordingly. Ideally this test would be > against a flag or indicator variable that had been set up automatically. > > > > Perhaps this automated setup could also trigger the the updating of the > page icon's name and title properties when the xwd title is changed. > Currently this is set to happen by adding the "pages = true" property to > the learning object icon. > > > > This would make everything more automated. > > > > With respect to automation I have done some checking with regard to the > minimum needed to get a page model working in a standard Xerte project. > > > > The bare minimum at present is to copy the common folder into the project > folder, all other folders are already created automatically when needed > (pages, media) > > > > Then a new property "pages" needs adding to the learning object with a > value of true, and an entry frame needs adding with a single scriptcontaining the line > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > This will provide enough to get the individual page templates working. > However page specific features that depend on the availability of > additional code such as narration, will not function. To have full > functionality of all pages then using a "pages" project would be > recommended. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 31 August 2012 09:20, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It would be much better to have this: > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > put somewhere in the engine, and to have the model initialise itself with > some sort of all to a function, maybe initModel(). Then the function can > handle the specifics, and users don?t need to see code that doesn?t concern > them, and we don?t have duplicate code in every model file. We have > discussed this before, I recall some challenges in trying to make it work. > Worth looking at again? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 30 August 2012 21:31 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were > produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of > folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file > defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to > Xerte that has been retired. > > > > The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines > the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in > > > > Xerte \ pages \ models > > \ wizards \ en-GB > > > > to find them. > > > > Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml > file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in > > tags > > > > so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an > object was "learningObject" > > > > All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in > tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard" > > > > It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you > are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page > templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is > what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data > for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page. > > > > The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide > template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that > contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project > each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck > eggs :-) > > > > Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either > Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file > differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file > containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of > project. > > > > The opening section of the rlm file > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out > the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to > pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments. > > > > The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop > Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time. > > > > What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will > parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new > template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use > individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms > for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the and > tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help > identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd > file. > > > > You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New > > > > However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files > you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, > rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is > shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in > your project. > > > > Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page > Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in > your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and > then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a > page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra > fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it > is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to > consume the new data. > > > > By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will > ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that. > > > > I hope that is a bit clearer. > > > > KInd regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > Thanks Johnathan. > > > > I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I > am trying to alter. > > > > so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just > > > > pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]; > > > to get the data loaded. > > > > Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard > > I thought you had deprecated pageWizard. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question > > > > You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard. > > > > The new model files use > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > > if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ > // Page Wizard > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > } else { > // Toolkits > myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > > } > > > > A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets > > > > rootIcon.projMode = "dev"; > > > > This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. > This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to > be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to > develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment. > > > > Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of > a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as > to what else you need to do. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!). > > > > I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline. > > > > Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test > data into it. > > > > So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file. > > > > In the first script icon of the .rlm we have: > > > > if (extXML == undefined){ > > // Page Wizard > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0]; > > > > Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, > won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined? > > > > What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in > order to get the model to function. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Export the languages file from where to where? > Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 11:35:51 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:35:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067952@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Pat, this is a server install, not an exported LO. Is this the latest version of files, 1.8? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 06 September 2012 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% Sorry I don't understand. Export the languages file from where to where? > Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:38:26 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:38:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067952@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067952@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Email 1 "We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' " ? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, this is a server install, not an exported LO. > > Is this the latest version of files, 1.8? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > Sorry I don't understand. Export the languages file from where to where? > > > > >> Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:38:47 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:38:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ignore that - check the loading in chrome or firebug (or fiddler) On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: > Sorry I don't understand. Export the languages file from where to where? > > > > >> Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 11:39:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:39:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067952@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D06795D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Duh, sorry! -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 September 2012 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% Email 1 "We've moved to Moodle 2.3. When we add a xerte scorm package and try to open it it loads the main window and then shows a blue progress bar with 'Loading Runtime Engine: 99%' " ? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Pat, this is a server install, not an exported LO. > > Is this the latest version of files, 1.8? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > Sorry I don't understand. Export the languages file from where to where? > > > > >> Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:40:45 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:40:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the only error is get in console is for failing to load: http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:45:12 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:45:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: that was in chorme. firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: > the only error is get in console is for failing to load: > > http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:45:30 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:45:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: in chrome? That isn't a XOT file..... On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: > the only error is get in console is for failing to load: > > http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 11:45:43 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:45:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% that was in chorme. firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: > the only error is get in console is for failing to load: > > http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:48:25 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:48:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: running scormRLO.htm in firefox i get: unable to find an api adapter click ok then Unable to locate the LMS's API Implementation. LMSInitialize was not successful. click ok and then it runs fine On 6 September 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > that was in chorme. > > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab > > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: >> >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Sep 6 11:50:30 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:50:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006d01cd8c1d$6f9246d0$4eb6d470$@co.uk> Yes -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 September 2012 11:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% Is the languages folder exported in 1.8 for scorm? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Pat Lockley wrote: > what does Chrome fail on, chrome will show red for the files it can't > load > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: >> I have the following in my mime types section: >> >> >> AddType text/html .php >> AddType text/xml .xwd >> AddType text/xml .rlm >> AddType text/xml .rlt >> AddType text/xml .rlo >> AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv >> >> and I've rebooted apache. It's still stalling at Loading Runtime >> Engine 99% though >> >> Dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:51:26 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:48:25 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > running scormRLO.htm in firefox i get: > > unable to find an api adapter > > click ok then > > Unable to locate the LMS's API Implementation. > LMSInitialize was not successful. > > click ok > > and then it runs fine > > > > On 6 September 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > > If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > > > that was in chorme. > > > > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab > > > > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: > >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: > >> > >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:53:24 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:53:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: > So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > if I do what Julian suggested above and unzip and run it locally yes. But i'm trying to run it in Moodle 2 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:55:50 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:55:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: in chrome, if you go to the network tab could you list the files and codes (200, 300, 404) for the files that come from your moodle? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: > that was in chorme. > > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab > > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: >> >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 11:56:25 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:56:25 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: Ah, ok sorry. > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:53:24 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > > So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > > > if I do what Julian suggested above and unzip and run it locally yes. > But i'm trying to run it in Moodle 2 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 11:57:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:57:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, so the package itself works, that's good to know. If that progress bar halts, it's because one of these files has failed to load: The .rlo / .rlt file languages/language-config.xml The file at the top of the list in language-config.xml Xmlengine.swf Check you MIME types again for SWF. The error message suggest xmlengine.swf is failing. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 06 September 2012 11:51 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:48:25 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > running scormRLO.htm in firefox i get: > > unable to find an api adapter > > click ok then > > Unable to locate the LMS's API Implementation. > LMSInitialize was not successful. > > click ok > > and then it runs fine > > > > On 6 September 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood > > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > > > that was in chorme. > > > > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net tab > > > > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood > wrote: > >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: > >> > >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 11:59:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:59:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: but the preloader is swf? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, so the package itself works, that?s good to know. > > > > If that progress bar halts, it?s because one of these files has failed to > load: > > > > The .rlo / .rlt file > > languages/language-config.xml > > The file at the top of the list in language-config.xml > > Xmlengine.swf > > > > Check you MIME types again for SWF. The error message suggest xmlengine.swf > is failing. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:51 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > > > So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:48:25 +0100 >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> >> running scormRLO.htm in firefox i get: >> >> unable to find an api adapter >> >> click ok then >> >> Unable to locate the LMS's API Implementation. >> LMSInitialize was not successful. >> >> click ok >> >> and then it runs fine >> >> >> >> On 6 September 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood >> > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> > >> > that was in chorme. >> > >> > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the net >> > tab >> > >> > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: >> >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predictadme.js?si=10185 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xerte mailing list >> > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xerte mailing list >> > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> > and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 12:03:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:03:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You're a step ahead of me today boy... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 September 2012 11:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% but the preloader is swf? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, so the package itself works, that's good to know. > > > > If that progress bar halts, it's because one of these files has failed > to > load: > > > > The .rlo / .rlt file > > languages/language-config.xml > > The file at the top of the list in language-config.xml > > Xmlengine.swf > > > > Check you MIME types again for SWF. The error message suggest > xmlengine.swf is failing. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:51 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > > > So you are running a SCORM package outside an LMS. > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:48:25 +0100 >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> >> running scormRLO.htm in firefox i get: >> >> unable to find an api adapter >> >> click ok then >> >> Unable to locate the LMS's API Implementation. >> LMSInitialize was not successful. >> >> click ok >> >> and then it runs fine >> >> >> >> On 6 September 2012 11:45, Julian Tenney >> >> wrote: >> > If you unzip it all, and run it locally, does it run? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan >> > Attwood >> > Sent: 06 September 2012 11:45 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> > >> > that was in chorme. >> > >> > firebug shows no errors in console and no missing resources in the >> > net tab >> > >> > On 6 September 2012 11:40, Dan Attwood wrote: >> >> the only error is get in console is for failing to load: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://cdn1.predictad.com/scripts/publishers/suggestmeyes/predicta >> >> dme.js?si=10185 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xerte mailing list >> > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xerte mailing list >> > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> > addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 12:17:28 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and without the '.' here's a gist with the network output from chrome: https://gist.github.com/3654811 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 12:26:43 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", "time": 1, "request": { "method": "GET", "url": "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", "headers": [], "queryString": [], "cookies": [], "headersSize": 107, "bodySize": 0 }, "response": { "status": 200, "statusText": "OK", "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", "headers": [], "cookies": [], "content": { "size": 5517, "mimeType": "document/unknown" ======================== .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF > > definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and > without the '.' > > here's a gist with the network output from chrome: > > https://gist.github.com/3654811 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 12:28:22 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:28:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Compared to the console for this https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 It is noticeable that it never gets into the actual Xerte stuff. Is the Scorm package in moodle displayed in an iframe? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dan Attwood wrote: > AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF > > definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and > without the '.' > > here's a gist with the network output from chrome: > > https://gist.github.com/3654811 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 12:31:19 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:31:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it is a 200 though? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", > "time": 1, > "request": { > "method": "GET", > "url": > "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", > "headers": [], > "queryString": [], > "cookies": [], > "headersSize": 107, > "bodySize": 0 > }, > "response": { > "status": 200, > "statusText": "OK", > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", > "headers": [], > "cookies": [], > "content": { > "size": 5517, > "mimeType": "document/unknown" > > > > ======================== > > .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? > > > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 > >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> >> AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF >> >> definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and >> without the '.' >> >> here's a gist with the network output from chrome: >> >> https://gist.github.com/3654811 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 12:34:36 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:34:36 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: True, but everything points to a MIME right?And it showing as "unknown" is a little coincidental? I give.I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it.;-) > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:31:19 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > it is a 200 though? > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", > > "time": 1, > > "request": { > > "method": "GET", > > "url": > > "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", > > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", > > "headers": [], > > "queryString": [], > > "cookies": [], > > "headersSize": 107, > > "bodySize": 0 > > }, > > "response": { > > "status": 200, > > "statusText": "OK", > > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", > > "headers": [], > > "cookies": [], > > "content": { > > "size": 5517, > > "mimeType": "document/unknown" > > > > > > > > ======================== > > > > .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 > > > >> From: danattwood at gmail.com > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > >> > >> AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF > >> > >> definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and > >> without the '.' > >> > >> here's a gist with the network output from chrome: > >> > >> https://gist.github.com/3654811 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. 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URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 12:43:58 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:43:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: well my section has AddType application/x-compress .Z AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz AddType text/html .php AddType text/xml .xwd AddType text/xml .rlm AddType text/xml .rlt AddType text/plain .rlo AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .swf So unless there is some other black magic involved in getting this mime types to run on apache on windows i'd say the types must be loaded. > I give. > I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. > ;-) > if any one else in the list successful running xerte on moodle 2? From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 12:47:43 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:47:43 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , Message-ID: >AddType text/plain .rlo Doesn't matter but should be text/xml?Do you need to restart the server with Apache on Windows or is it a hot fix? > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:43:58 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% > > well my section has > > AddType application/x-compress .Z > AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz > AddType text/html .php > AddType text/xml .xwd > AddType text/xml .rlm > AddType text/xml .rlt > AddType text/plain .rlo > AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv > AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .swf > > So unless there is some other black magic involved in getting this > mime types to run on apache on windows i'd say the types must be > loaded. > > > > I give. > > I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. > > ;-) > > > if any one else in the list successful running xerte on moodle 2? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Sep 6 13:00:41 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (RonM) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:00:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Offline at the moment so cant help directly but yes xot works just fine with Moodle 2. Can you provide a link to download your zip for testing in another Moodle 2? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Sep 2012, at 12:43, Dan Attwood wrote: > well my section has > > AddType application/x-compress .Z > AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz > AddType text/html .php > AddType text/xml .xwd > AddType text/xml .rlm > AddType text/xml .rlt > AddType text/plain .rlo > AddType flv-application/octet-stream .flv > AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .swf > > So unless there is some other black magic involved in getting this > mime types to run on apache on windows i'd say the types must be > loaded. > > >> I give. >> I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. >> ;-) >> > if any one else in the list successful running xerte on moodle 2? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 13:01:50 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:01:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: everything points to something 404, and we aren't seeing a 404 I am suspecting an iframe at work. I'd deploy fiddler (fiddler2.com) and track what it sees - there has to be a 404 somewhere On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > True, but everything points to a MIME right? > And it showing as "unknown" is a little coincidental? > > I give. > I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. > ;-) > > > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:31:19 +0100 >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> >> it is a 200 though? >> >> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dave Burnett >> wrote: >> > >> > "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", >> > "time": 1, >> > "request": { >> > "method": "GET", >> > "url": >> > >> > "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", >> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >> > "headers": [], >> > "queryString": [], >> > "cookies": [], >> > "headersSize": 107, >> > "bodySize": 0 >> > }, >> > "response": { >> > "status": 200, >> > "statusText": "OK", >> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >> > "headers": [], >> > "cookies": [], >> > "content": { >> > "size": 5517, >> > "mimeType": "document/unknown" >> > >> > >> > >> > ======================== >> > >> > .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 >> > >> >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >> >> >> >> AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF >> >> >> >> definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and >> >> without the '.' >> >> >> >> here's a gist with the network output from chrome: >> >> >> >> https://gist.github.com/3654811 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Xerte mailing list >> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and >> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From danattwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 13:06:20 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:06:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I've just got another moodle admin to test it on his site and it works - he's linux and apache I've also restart the apache service and the server for good measure. On 6 September 2012 13:01, Pat Lockley wrote: > everything points to something 404, and we aren't seeing a 404 > > I am suspecting an iframe at work. > > I'd deploy fiddler (fiddler2.com) and track what it sees - there has > to be a 404 somewhere > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: >> True, but everything points to a MIME right? >> And it showing as "unknown" is a little coincidental? >> >> I give. >> I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. >> ;-) >> >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:31:19 +0100 >>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >>> >>> it is a 200 though? >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dave Burnett >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", >>> > "time": 1, >>> > "request": { >>> > "method": "GET", >>> > "url": >>> > >>> > "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", >>> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >>> > "headers": [], >>> > "queryString": [], >>> > "cookies": [], >>> > "headersSize": 107, >>> > "bodySize": 0 >>> > }, >>> > "response": { >>> > "status": 200, >>> > "statusText": "OK", >>> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >>> > "headers": [], >>> > "cookies": [], >>> > "content": { >>> > "size": 5517, >>> > "mimeType": "document/unknown" >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ======================== >>> > >>> > .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 >>> > >>> >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >>> >> >>> >> AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF >>> >> >>> >> definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and >>> >> without the '.' >>> >> >>> >> here's a gist with the network output from chrome: >>> >> >>> >> https://gist.github.com/3654811 >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte mailing list >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> >> and >>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>> > the >>> > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>> > legislation. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Sep 6 13:15:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:15:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067974@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067992@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D0679A3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Could you give fiddler a whirl - it is a more hardcore console tracker than chrome offers On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Dan Attwood wrote: > I've just got another moodle admin to test it on his site and it works > - he's linux and apache > > I've also restart the apache service and the server for good measure. > > > > On 6 September 2012 13:01, Pat Lockley wrote: >> everything points to something 404, and we aren't seeing a 404 >> >> I am suspecting an iframe at work. >> >> I'd deploy fiddler (fiddler2.com) and track what it sees - there has >> to be a 404 somewhere >> >> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: >>> True, but everything points to a MIME right? >>> And it showing as "unknown" is a little coincidental? >>> >>> I give. >>> I looked at Moodle 2 for about a day and decided I hated it. >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:31:19 +0100 >>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >>> >>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >>>> >>>> it is a 200 though? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dave Burnett >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > "startedDateTime": "2012-09-06T10:56:47.662Z", >>>> > "time": 1, >>>> > "request": { >>>> > "method": "GET", >>>> > "url": >>>> > >>>> > "http://moodledev2.midkent.ac.uk/pluginfile.php/158124/mod_scorm/content/1/learningobject.rlo", >>>> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >>>> > "headers": [], >>>> > "queryString": [], >>>> > "cookies": [], >>>> > "headersSize": 107, >>>> > "bodySize": 0 >>>> > }, >>>> > "response": { >>>> > "status": 200, >>>> > "statusText": "OK", >>>> > "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1", >>>> > "headers": [], >>>> > "cookies": [], >>>> > "content": { >>>> > "size": 5517, >>>> > "mimeType": "document/unknown" >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ======================== >>>> > >>>> > .rlo is set as a MIME for sure? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:17:28 +0100 >>>> > >>>> >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >>>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: loading runtime engine 99% >>>> >> >>>> >> AddType application/x-shockwave-flash .SWF >>>> >> >>>> >> definitly exists and i've tried lower case and uppercase and with and >>>> >> without the '.' >>>> >> >>>> >> here's a gist with the network output from chrome: >>>> >> >>>> >> https://gist.github.com/3654811 >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Xerte mailing list >>>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >> >>>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> >> and >>>> >> may contain confidential information. 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Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 13:18:39 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:18:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Project AGM: Xenith Project Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3D067A38@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi, The Xerte Project is holding its second annual general meeting at the University of Nottingham on October 10th and 11th. This community event is free to attend. The first day is aimed at those using the software in their institutions, or those supporting end users. You might have heard of the JISC funded Xenith Project: we have been working on HTML5 output for Xerte Online Toolkits, and this will provide an opportunity to show this highly anticipated work to the user community, as well as to reprise recent developments and outline plans for the future. Book here (places going fast!) http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk The second day is for the community of developers working on the software, or for those who would like to join them. It's an opportunity to review developments since our 2011 meeting and make plans for the next iterations: all are welcome, but attendance demonstrates a willingness to get involved: whether writing code, documentation, or helping to set up the new community website. Places are disappearing much faster than we anticipated. 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I am looking for a way to change the default colour scheme for an object, rather than them always being the standard colour scheme. I've found some information about the desktop version and using properties, but these don't seem to be available with the on-line toolkits Regards Rob Talbot Digital Development Manager University of Warwick Library Email: r.j.talbot at warwick.ac.uk Ext: 51659 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: styles.css Type: text/css Size: 430 bytes Desc: styles.css URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 13:50:31 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:50:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] xerte and moodle Message-ID: OK I've tracked down the problem i was having last week with xerte scorm packages not loading to being a theme issue. I'm using the aardvark theme and have found that by using the latest version of this theme the package runs. I think this is possibly to do with javascript in the theme. unfortunently the latest version of the theme is significantly different from the theme we launched moodle 2 with it and changing it at this point is likely to cause issues - out of date handouts etc. So I have now shifted my efforts back to getting the online tool kits - with moodle integration - working again in the hope that i link to the scorm modules in that and by pass the theme issues. I've copied across the database and xerte files from moodle 1.9 into moodle 2 and reset the database.php files as needed. however I'm getting a blank page. tacking throught he index page it's failing at: $mysql_id=database_connect("index.php database connect success","index.php database connect fail"); I've checked that the password and username are fine by setting up a standard 'mysql_connect' From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Sep 10 13:56:40 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: user table permissions? On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Dan Attwood wrote: > OK I've tracked down the problem i was having last week with xerte > scorm packages not loading to being a theme issue. I'm using the > aardvark theme and have found that by using the latest version of this > theme the package runs. I think this is possibly to do with javascript > in the theme. > > unfortunently the latest version of the theme is significantly > different from the theme we launched moodle 2 with it and changing it > at this point is likely to cause issues - out of date handouts etc. > > So I have now shifted my efforts back to getting the online tool kits > - with moodle integration - working again in the hope that i link to > the scorm modules in that and by pass the theme issues. > > I've copied across the database and xerte files from moodle 1.9 into > moodle 2 and reset the database.php files as needed. > > however I'm getting a blank page. tacking throught he index page it's > failing at: > > $mysql_id=database_connect("index.php database connect > success","index.php database connect fail"); > > I've checked that the password and username are fine by setting up a > standard 'mysql_connect' > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From danattwood at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 13:58:06 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:58:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the db account accessing the xerte db has full access to the database From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Sep 10 14:27:26 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:27:26 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: maybe try to get it running with switch.txt first? > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:58:06 +0100 > From: danattwood at gmail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle > > the db account accessing the xerte db has full access to the database > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > maybe try to get it running with switch.txt first? > >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:58:06 +0100 >> From: danattwood at gmail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle >> >> the db account accessing the xerte db has full access to the database >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Sep 10 14:32:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:32:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT "Upload a new Template" button not working In-Reply-To: <6C857FFFB8F6FE4CB02A195DA005C0EB12E4DA65@DB3PRD0610MB381.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: <6C857FFFB8F6FE4CB02A195DA005C0EB12E3EEB2@AMSPRD0610MB375.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D798@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D7B6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6C857FFFB8F6FE4CB02A195DA005C0EB12E4DA65@DB3PRD0610MB381.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <504DEBEB.6050805@tor.nl> I fixed some issues in the import code of XOT. So the original method will work in the future. Also, yes, it should be relatively easy to add the abillity to import/update on a page level. All the code is there, but it needs a management frontend. Tom Op 30-8-2012 14:24, Julien CHEZEAUX schreef: > Hello all! > > Thanks a lot for your help. I managed to get it working with Julian Tenney method (modifying the Nottingham xwd in order to insert the model in the template). > > Furthermore, following Pat Lockley advices, I copied my template into the parent_template directory and modified the originaltemplatedetails in the database, and so I got the template name listed in XOT user interface. I can start a new project with this template, but it is impossible to insert an object in it, I guess the link between the database entry and the rlm template is not working. Anyway it doesn't matter because I got the model working with the original template. > > Thanks also to Johnathan Kemp for the instructions on how to create the new model, I did it right before reading your message but it's always a good thing to have all the details gathered. > > Now it's time to create content! > > Julien Chezeaux > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Julian Tenney > Envoy? : mercredi 29 ao?t 2012 11:23 > ? : Xerte discussion list > Objet : [Xerte] Re: XOT "Upload a new Template" button not working > > Probably. It might be a discussion for October. It would probably be possible to piggy back on Tom's work re: modularisation to make it easy to add new models to a template and rebuild a big xwd from all the small ones on the server, rather than in the standalone (it's PHP, right?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 August 2012 10:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT "Upload a new Template" button not working > > Adding a model via the website wouldn't work anyway? > > Dev-list time? > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Yeah, I would add it to your modules/xerte/parent_templates xwd file, and then put the model in models, any common in /common and effectively modify the main template rather than creating a new template just for one more model. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 29 August 2012 10:10 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT "Upload a new Template" button not working >> >> Hello, >> >> I would guess that the code behind that button works with the old model format, but not the new one. >> >> If you ftp to modules/xerte - you can add the model by putting the >> files into that >> >> then you need to edit the originaltemplatedetails table in the >> database >> >> Pat >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Julien CHEZEAUX wrote: >>> Hello all! >>> >>> >>> >>> Trying to make a new model available in XOT, I created a new template >>> with Xerte (Page Template). >>> >>> Then I created the new model (indeed, I cloned and modified the >>> slideshow model). >>> >>> Then I updated the template.xwd, following this guide. >>> >>> >>> >>> Now I have a template that suits me, and I want to get it usable in XOT. >>> >>> So, reading the previous Xerte mailing list posts on this topic, a >>> created a zip file containing the template, that is: >>> >>> * mytemplate/common/* >>> >>> * mytemplate/languages/* >>> >>> * mytemplate/media/* >>> >>> * mytemplate/models/* (-> with my modified copy of slideshow.rlm) >>> >>> * mytemplate/thumbs/* >>> >>> * mytemplate/mytemplate.rlt >>> >>> * mytemplate/template.xml >>> >>> * mytemplate/template.xwd (-> updated to define the new model) >>> >>> >>> >>> But, as some other people here, I am stuck with the template upload >>> button in management.php, which doesn't do anything, neither giving >>> me any error message. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there a way to resolve this problem, or a different way to import >>> a template in XOT ? Maybe manually copying the files on the file >>> system and updating the database ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl wrote on Wed Nov 23 10:20:37 GMT >>> 2011: >>> >>> >>> >>> It is not trivial to create a correct zip file form an existing XOT >>> >>> installation: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Create a folder to hold the template >>> >>> 2. copy the files from modules\xerte\template\ to that >>> folder >>> >>> 3. copy the files from modules\xerte\parent_template\ >>> to >>> >>> that folder >>> >>> 4. rename data.xwd and data.xml to template.xwd and template.xml >>> >>> 5. zip the folder created in 1. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Sep 10 14:42:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:42:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte and moodle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006f01cd8f5a$1353a590$39faf0b0$@co.uk> Some points to clarify here... 1. The SCORM tracking only works when the Xerte LO is exported from XOT and imported into Moodle as SCORM so I don't see how moving a toolkits installation is going to fix anything related to a SCORM/Theme/Javascript issue? 2. The SCORM tracking also only works on the Quiz page so do you really need SCORM export or could you just link from XOT? If so there's shouldn't be a Javascript clash? 3. When you moved the XOT installation did you also change the sitedetails values either direct in the database or via the management page? Even if the db details are correct you will still need to change location/path details for the site to work in the new location. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Attwood Sent: 10 September 2012 13:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] xerte and moodle OK I've tracked down the problem i was having last week with xerte scorm packages not loading to being a theme issue. I'm using the aardvark theme and have found that by using the latest version of this theme the package runs. I think this is possibly to do with javascript in the theme. unfortunently the latest version of the theme is significantly different from the theme we launched moodle 2 with it and changing it at this point is likely to cause issues - out of date handouts etc. So I have now shifted my efforts back to getting the online tool kits - with moodle integration - working again in the hope that i link to the scorm modules in that and by pass the theme issues. I've copied across the database and xerte files from moodle 1.9 into moodle 2 and reset the database.php files as needed. however I'm getting a blank page. tacking throught he index page it's failing at: $mysql_id=database_connect("index.php database connect success","index.php database connect fail"); I've checked that the password and username are fine by setting up a standard 'mysql_connect' _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Mon Sep 10 15:33:05 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:33:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi, Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate any help. Regards, Remy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's a quick summary: 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate any help. Regards, Remy This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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One of my expectation would be to get the narration transcript displayed on demand to the learner. That could be a cool feature for learners without appropriate audio device, in a public space or even suffering from hearing damage for instance. If possible, this development would take the form of a button invoking a pop up to be displayed - like the pop up we get from a term in the glossary or the pop up used for the table of content. I have not had a chance to find any occurrence of these pop up from the default template and models files. Just wondering if there is a function existing for invoking such pop up? Many thanks. Laurent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Sep 11 16:51:22 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:51:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: adding pop up action to a model In-Reply-To: <29C296D0E5251C42A8FC67385BB0501117C54471@AMSPRD0610MB374.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: <29C296D0E5251C42A8FC67385BB0501117C54471@AMSPRD0610MB374.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: The hotspot Connector and the Scenario Connector both display a text block over the current page content with a button to close the text block. These text blocks are normally hidden but display when something takes place. In the case of the Hotspot connector the learner clicks on a hotspot, in the case of the scenario an outcome takes place. This was about as close as I could get to a "pop up" when I did these pages. I don't know of a function or method in Xerte similar to a javascript alert("Some important message") method you get in javascript. So it may be you need to add a text block with maybe a panel to act as a background and then set their visible properties to 0. When you need to display them set the visible property to 1 (or it may need "true"). Hope that is some help. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 September 2012 16:30, Laurent MATHIEU wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > I am trying to make my first set of customised models and templates for > XOT using the latest version of Xerte desktop. However I?m not sure about > what is feasible and how. > > > > One of my expectation would be to get the narration transcript displayed > on demand to the learner. That could be a cool feature for learners without > appropriate audio device, in a public space or even suffering from hearing > damage for instance. > > > > If possible, this development would take the form of a button invoking a > pop up to be displayed - like the pop up we get from a term in the glossary > or the pop up used for the table of content. > > > > I have not had a chance to find any occurrence of these pop up from the > default template and models files. Just wondering if there is a function > existing for invoking such pop up? > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Laurent > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laurent.mathieu at scassi.com Wed Sep 12 08:33:45 2012 From: laurent.mathieu at scassi.com (Laurent MATHIEU) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:33:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: adding pop up action to a model In-Reply-To: References: <29C296D0E5251C42A8FC67385BB0501117C54471@AMSPRD0610MB374.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <29C296D0E5251C42A8FC67385BB0501117C545E9@AMSPRD0610MB374.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Thank you Jonathan, it does help indeed! I was not aware of these text blocks implemented in the next Connector models. That's good news. >From first hand impression, there is no way for the user to display the text block and move it across the panel by dragging and dropping the window. It could be some kind of side effect of this annoying the user being not able get both the transcript and the panel content at the same time (e.g. an audio slideshow). Anyway it is definitely worth the try, I believe I may be able to work around the issue by well defining the exact position on the page. Regards, /L De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Kemp Johnathan Envoy? : mardi 11 septembre 2012 17:51 ? : Xerte discussion list Objet : [Xerte] Re: adding pop up action to a model The hotspot Connector and the Scenario Connector both display a text block over the current page content with a button to close the text block. These text blocks are normally hidden but display when something takes place. In the case of the Hotspot connector the learner clicks on a hotspot, in the case of the scenario an outcome takes place. This was about as close as I could get to a "pop up" when I did these pages. I don't know of a function or method in Xerte similar to a javascript alert("Some important message") method you get in javascript. So it may be you need to add a text block with maybe a panel to act as a background and then set their visible properties to 0. When you need to display them set the visible property to 1 (or it may need "true"). Hope that is some help. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 September 2012 16:30, Laurent MATHIEU > wrote: Good afternoon, I am trying to make my first set of customised models and templates for XOT using the latest version of Xerte desktop. However I'm not sure about what is feasible and how. One of my expectation would be to get the narration transcript displayed on demand to the learner. That could be a cool feature for learners without appropriate audio device, in a public space or even suffering from hearing damage for instance. If possible, this development would take the form of a button invoking a pop up to be displayed - like the pop up we get from a term in the glossary or the pop up used for the table of content. I have not had a chance to find any occurrence of these pop up from the default template and models files. Just wondering if there is a function existing for invoking such pop up? Many thanks. Laurent This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Fay ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't found time yet. Here's a quick summary: 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate any help. Regards, Remy This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 13:06:08 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:06:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi Fay, Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the process again just in case now. Thanks a lot for your help. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Remy I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete the installation? Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if you let us know what's failing. Fay ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't found time yet. Here's a quick summary: 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate any help. Regards, Remy This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6395 bytes Desc: not available URL: From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 13:17:21 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:17:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi Fay Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: Remy Olasoji Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 To: Xerte discussion list Cc: Rose Heaney Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Fay, Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the process again just in case now. Thanks a lot for your help. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Remy I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete the installation? Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if you let us know what's failing. Fay ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't found time yet. Here's a quick summary: 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate any help. Regards, Remy This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 13:24:45 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:24:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 13:34:19 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:34:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi, I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by > Websense >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 13:43:07 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:43:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, Message-ID: >From looking at the site Rose showed me this morning it looks like they are still running 1.7 after replacing the files. Assuming there's nothing else they would need to do to get 1.8 working I think they may be replacing 1.7 with 1.7 if you see what I mean. Does the zip on our website definitely contain the most recent files? Where's the best place for Remy to get 1.8 from? svn or zip? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 12 September 2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 13:43:43 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:43:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: Ignore me, didn't see most recent emails... ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 12 September 2012 13:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >From looking at the site Rose showed me this morning it looks like they are still running 1.7 after replacing the files. Assuming there's nothing else they would need to do to get 1.8 working I think they may be replacing 1.7 with 1.7 if you see what I mean. Does the zip on our website definitely contain the most recent files? Where's the best place for Remy to get 1.8 from? svn or zip? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 12 September 2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 13:45:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:45:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: AFAIK the zip is 1.8 Export is the obvious change I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Fay Cross wrote: > From looking at the site Rose showed me this morning it looks like they are still running 1.7 after replacing the files. Assuming there's nothing else they would need to do to get 1.8 working I think they may be replacing 1.7 with 1.7 if you see what I mean. Does the zip on our website definitely contain the most recent files? Where's the best place for Remy to get 1.8 from? svn or zip? > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 12 September 2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Sep 12 13:53:26 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:53:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <008801cd90e5$9ab13e30$d013ba90$@co.uk> What method of authentication are you using? 1. Did you have to edit config.php to enable your chosen method? 2. If you create a new LO or edit an existing LO and then select the Insert menu do you see the Insert > Connectors option? If any of this is true you're using 1.8! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by Websense > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 13:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What method of authentication are you using? 1. Did you have to edit config.php to enable your chosen method? 2. If you create a new LO or edit an existing LO and then select the Insert menu do you see the Insert > Connectors option? If any of this is true you're using 1.8! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji > wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 14:22:56 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:22:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 11543 bytes Desc: not available URL: From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 14:43:54 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:43:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008801cd90e5$9ab13e30$d013ba90$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3DA83582@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13E@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi Julian, Thanks for this. I am downloading it from this page: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm - but it still says last update is August 7th 2012. Ignore that? Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I just updated the zip on the web site, so it's right up to date against the svn. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 13:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What method of authentication are you using? 1. Did you have to edit config.php to enable your chosen method? 2. If you create a new LO or edit an existing LO and then select the Insert menu do you see the Insert > Connectors option? If any of this is true you're using 1.8! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I am downloading it from this page: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm - but it still says last update is August 7th 2012. Ignore that? Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I just updated the zip on the web site, so it's right up to date against the svn. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 13:53 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What method of authentication are you using? 1. Did you have to edit config.php to enable your chosen method? 2. If you create a new LO or edit an existing LO and then select the Insert menu do you see the Insert > Connectors option? If any of this is true you're using 1.8! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi, I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 The database hasn't changed. What problem are you getting exactly? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji > wrote: > Hi Fay > > Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: Remy Olasoji > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Cc: Rose Heaney > Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi Fay, > > Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought > maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through the > process again just in case now. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hi Remy > > I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had some > problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > the installation? > > Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice if > you let us know what's failing. > > Fay > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the > setup folder) > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap table > 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > > HTH > Ron > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > Hi, > > Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will appreciate > any help. > > Regards, > > Remy > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may > contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 14:50:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:50:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: Keep going with the other steps Now in the work area is a project - with the name you called it when creating. Highlight this Click on properties Click on export What do you see On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, > > clicked on Create (right panel) > entered a name for a project > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed > from there) ... nothing happened. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hello, > > Make a project. > Highlight the project in the work area > Click on properties > Select Export > > What does the page say? > > Pat > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >>> Hi Fay >>> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi Fay, >>> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I > thought >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through >> the >>> process again just in case now. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Remy >>> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had >> some >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >>> the installation? >>> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice >> if >>> you let us know what's failing. >>> >>> Fay >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need >> the >>> setup folder) >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access >> e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap >> table >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >> appreciate >>> any help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Remy >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may >>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, >>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, >> copy >>> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. >>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> >>> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by >> Websense >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Sep 12 14:56:31 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:56:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by > Websense >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 16330 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 15:00:29 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:00:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: No, when I saw it earlier a lot of the models were missing which was what made me think it was still 1.7. I wasn't sure what specifically had changed else where that I could look at to see what version it was running but newer models were not there. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 12 September 2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji > wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji > wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by > Websense >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 15:09:58 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:09:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D141@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi Pat, Here's what I saw: Export There are two ways to export a project A zip file export will package (but not delete) your project into one zip file. If you then open this file, the contents can be used to deploy your project on any webpage. Click on zip export to get your file - Zip export A SCORM 1.2 file export will package (but not delete) your project into one zip file. This zip file can then be imported by most VLEs to become part of an online course. This file will be SCORM 1.2 compliant. Click on Scorm export to get this package - Scorm export Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Keep going with the other steps Now in the work area is a project - with the name you called it when creating. Highlight this Click on properties Click on export What do you see On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, > > clicked on Create (right panel) > entered a name for a project > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed > from there) ... nothing happened. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hello, > > Make a project. > Highlight the project in the work area > Click on properties > Select Export > > What does the page say? > > Pat > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >>> Hi Fay >>> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi Fay, >>> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I > thought >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through >> the >>> process again just in case now. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Remy >>> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had >> some >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >>> the installation? >>> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice >> if >>> you let us know what's failing. >>> >>> Fay >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need >> the >>> setup folder) >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access >> e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap >> table >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >> appreciate >>> any help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Remy >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may >>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, >>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 14247 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 15:12:09 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:12:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D141@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D141@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: 1.7 then, not 1.8 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Pat, > > Here's what I saw: > > Export > There are two ways to export a project > A zip file export will package (but not delete) your project into one zip > file. If you then open this file, the contents can be used to deploy your > project on any webpage. > Click on zip export to get your file - Zip export > A SCORM 1.2 file export will package (but not delete) your project into one > zip file. This zip file can then be imported by most VLEs to become part of > an online course. This file will be SCORM 1.2 compliant. > Click on Scorm export to get this package - Scorm export > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:50 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Keep going with the other steps > > Now in the work area is a project - with the name you called it when > creating. > > Highlight this > > Click on properties > > Click on export > > What do you see > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, >> >> clicked on Create (right panel) >> entered a name for a project >> a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed >> from there) ... nothing happened. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Make a project. >> Highlight the project in the work area >> Click on properties >> Select Export >> >> What does the page say? >> >> Pat >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the >>> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have >>> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> The database hasn't changed. >>> >>> What problem are you getting exactly? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >>>> Hi Fay >>>> >>>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >>>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >>>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >>>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Remy >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: Remy Olasoji >>>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Cc: Rose Heaney >>>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Fay, >>>> >>>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >>>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and > replaced >>>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I >> thought >>>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through >>> the >>>> process again just in case now. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Remy >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >>>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Remy >>>> >>>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had >>> some >>>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >>>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >>>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >>>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed > it >>>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you > complete >>>> the installation? >>>> >>>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice >>> if >>>> you let us know what's failing. >>>> >>>> Fay >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >>>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >>>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >>>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>>> >>>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but > haven't >>>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >>>> >>>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need >>> the >>>> setup folder) >>>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access >>> e.g. >>>> create and test an LO >>>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >>>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap >>> table >>>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options > in >>>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >>>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >>>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >>>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I > am >>>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >>> appreciate >>>> any help. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Remy >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may >>>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, >>>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, >>> copy >>>> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. >>>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >>>> >>>> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by >>> Websense >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 15:17:41 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:17:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 18251 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 15:21:37 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: please please please put some security on that link It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi Ron, > > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, > Misc but no Connectors:). > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. > > > > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace > > Select Edit - the editor window opens > > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type > you wish to insert > > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 > > > > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 > > > > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to > see? > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, > > > > clicked on Create (right panel) > > entered a name for a project > > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed > from there) ... nothing happened. > > > > Regards, > > Remy > > > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > Hello, > > Make a project. > Highlight the project in the work area > Click on properties > Select Export > > What does the page say? > > Pat > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >>> Hi Fay >>> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi Fay, >>> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I > thought >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through >> the >>> process again just in case now. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Remy >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Remy >>> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had >> some >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >>> the installation? >>> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice >> if >>> you let us know what's failing. >>> >>> Fay >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need >> the >>> setup folder) >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access >> e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap >> table >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >> appreciate >>> any help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Remy >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may >>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, >>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, >> copy >>> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. >>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> >>> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by >> Websense >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Sep 12 15:22:17 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:22:17 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk>, , <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, , <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, , <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk>, <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Too late. I created a folder called Dave. > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > please please please put some security on that link > > It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > > > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, > > Misc but no Connectors:). > > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site > > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The > > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. > > > > Regards, > > Remy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > > > > > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. > > > > > > > > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace > > > > Select Edit - the editor window opens > > > > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type > > you wish to insert > > > > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu > > > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 > > > > > > > > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? > > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 > > > > > > > > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to > > see? > > > > > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > > > > > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, > > > > > > > > clicked on Create (right panel) > > > > entered a name for a project > > > > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed > > from there) ... nothing happened. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Remy > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > Hello, > > > > Make a project. > > Highlight the project in the work area > > Click on properties > > Select Export > > > > What does the page say? > > > > Pat > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Remy > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> > >> > >> > >> The database hasn't changed. > >> > >> What problem are you getting exactly? > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > >>> Hi Fay > >>> > >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about > >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could > >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to > >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Remy > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> From: Remy Olasoji > >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Cc: Rose Heaney > >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Fay, > >>> > >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced > >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I > > thought > >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > >> the > >>> process again just in case now. > >>> > >>> Thanks a lot for your help. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Remy > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Remy > >>> > >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > >> some > >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me > >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the > >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it > >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete > >>> the installation? > >>> > >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > >> if > >>> you let us know what's failing. > >>> > >>> Fay > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >>> > >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't > >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > >>> > >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > >> the > >>> setup folder) > >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > >> e.g. > >>> create and test an LO > >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > >> table > >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in > >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the > >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file > >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc > >>> > >>> HTH > >>> Ron > >>> > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am > >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > >> appreciate > >>> any help. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Remy > >>> > >>> > >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may > >>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, > >>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > >> copy > >>> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. > >>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > >>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > >>> > >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > > attachment > >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > > system: > >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 15:29:54 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:29:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: Technically it is a criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act (1988) to access any system (even if the system has no security) without permission. My legal fee is 10 pounds. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > Too late. I created a folder called Dave. > >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> please please please put some security on that link >> >> It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> > Hi Ron, >> > >> > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, >> > Interactivity, >> > Misc but no Connectors:). >> > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the >> > site >> > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. >> > The >> > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Remy >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 >> > To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> > >> > >> > >> > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. >> > >> > >> > >> > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace >> > >> > Select Edit - the editor window opens >> > >> > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page >> > type >> > you wish to insert >> > >> > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu >> > >> > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 >> > >> > >> > >> > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors >> > menu? >> > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 >> > >> > >> > >> > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting >> > to >> > see? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> > >> > >> > >> > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, >> > >> > >> > >> > clicked on Create (right panel) >> > >> > entered a name for a project >> > >> > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to >> > proceed >> > from there) ... nothing happened. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Remy >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Make a project. >> > Highlight the project in the work area >> > Click on properties >> > Select Export >> > >> > What does the page say? >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji >> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users >> >> the >> >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version >> >> have >> >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Fay >> >>> >> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything >> >>> about >> >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. >> >>> Could >> >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had >> >>> to >> >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is >> >>> it?) >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Remy >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >> >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi Fay, >> >>> >> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and >> >>> replaced >> >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I >> > thought >> >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go >> >>> through >> >> the >> >>> process again just in case now. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Remy >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi Remy >> >>> >> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have >> >>> had >> >> some >> >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed >> >>> me >> >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are >> >>> the >> >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had >> >>> installed it >> >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you >> >>> complete >> >>> the installation? >> >>> >> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some >> >>> advice >> >> if >> >>> you let us know what's failing. >> >>> >> >>> Fay >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________________ >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >>> >> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but >> >>> haven't >> >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >>> >> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >> >>> need >> >> the >> >>> setup folder) >> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest >> >>> access >> >> e.g. >> >>> create and test an LO >> >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to >> >>> ldap >> >> table >> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication >> >>> options in >> >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >>> >> >>> HTH >> >>> Ron >> >>> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy >> >>> Olasoji >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I >> >>> am >> >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >> >> appreciate >> >>> any help. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Remy >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >>> and >> >> may >> >>> contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Sep 12 15:32:20 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:32:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00f001cd90f3$6bbf8a60$433e9f20$@co.uk> There's a version.txt file in the root of the zip which should refer to Xerte Online Toolkits v1.8? Also there's a moodle_integration_readme.txt which also refers to 1.8? If the zip you extracted contains these files then are you sure you are updating the correct installation directory? As Pat say's your current installation appears to be unauthenticated and is not 1.8 and doesn't have the 1.8 files. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message has been scanned by the UEL anti-spam filters hosted by > Websense >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Whistle for your tenner. > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:29:54 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > Technically it is a criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act > (1988) to access any system (even if the system has no security) > without permission. > > My legal fee is 10 pounds. > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Too late. I created a folder called Dave. > > > >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 > >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> > >> please please please put some security on that link > >> > >> It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > >> > Hi Ron, > >> > > >> > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, > >> > Interactivity, > >> > Misc but no Connectors:). > >> > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the > >> > site > >> > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. > >> > The > >> > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Remy > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell > >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 > >> > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace > >> > > >> > Select Edit - the editor window opens > >> > > >> > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page > >> > type > >> > you wish to insert > >> > > >> > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu > >> > > >> > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors > >> > menu? > >> > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting > >> > to > >> > see? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji > >> > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 > >> > To: Xerte discussion list > >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > clicked on Create (right panel) > >> > > >> > entered a name for a project > >> > > >> > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to > >> > proceed > >> > from there) ... nothing happened. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Remy > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 > >> > To: Xerte discussion list > >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > Make a project. > >> > Highlight the project in the work area > >> > Click on properties > >> > Select Export > >> > > >> > What does the page say? > >> > > >> > Pat > >> > > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji > >> > wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users > >> >> the > >> >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version > >> >> have > >> >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Remy > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > >> >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > >> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> The database hasn't changed. > >> >> > >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> Hi Fay > >> >>> > >> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything > >> >>> about > >> >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. > >> >>> Could > >> >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had > >> >>> to > >> >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is > >> >>> it?) > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Remy > >> >>> > >> >>> ________________________________ > >> >>> > >> >>> From: Remy Olasoji > >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Cc: Rose Heaney > >> >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Fay, > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: > >> >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and > >> >>> replaced > >> >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I > >> > thought > >> >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go > >> >>> through > >> >> the > >> >>> process again just in case now. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Remy > >> >>> > >> >>> ________________________________ > >> >>> > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross > >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Remy > >> >>> > >> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have > >> >>> had > >> >> some > >> >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed > >> >>> me > >> >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was > >> >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are > >> >>> the > >> >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had > >> >>> installed it > >> >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you > >> >>> complete > >> >>> the installation? > >> >>> > >> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some > >> >>> advice > >> >> if > >> >>> you let us know what's failing. > >> >>> > >> >>> Fay > >> >>> > >> >>> ________________________________________ > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > >> >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 > >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > >> >>> > >> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but > >> >>> haven't > >> >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > >> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't > >> >>> need > >> >> the > >> >>> setup folder) > >> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest > >> >>> access > >> >> e.g. > >> >>> create and test an LO > >> >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit > >> >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to > >> >>> ldap > >> >> table > >> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication > >> >>> options in > >> >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line > >> >>> 6. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Sep 12 15:36:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:36:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: There is no mention in the act of how you find the site (trust me, the law is so wide open you can get charged for accidentally using a system, it is really quite scary) Second letter, twenty pounds On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > I was invited: > "The site is here: http://xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx.xx/ by the way." > > Whistle for your tenner. > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:29:54 +0100 > >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> Technically it is a criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act >> (1988) to access any system (even if the system has no security) >> without permission. >> >> My legal fee is 10 pounds. >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dave Burnett >> wrote: >> > Too late. I created a folder called Dave. >> > >> >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 >> >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> please please please put some security on that link >> >> >> >> It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Ron, >> >> > >> >> > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, >> >> > Interactivity, >> >> > Misc but no Connectors:). >> >> > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the >> >> > site >> >> > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. >> >> > The >> >> > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Remy >> >> > >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell >> >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 >> >> > To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace >> >> > >> >> > Select Edit - the editor window opens >> >> > >> >> > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page >> >> > type >> >> > you wish to insert >> >> > >> >> > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text >> >> > menu >> >> > >> >> > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors >> >> > menu? >> >> > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they >> >> > expecting >> >> > to >> >> > see? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy >> >> > Olasoji >> >> > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 >> >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your >> >> > instructions, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > clicked on Create (right panel) >> >> > >> >> > entered a name for a project >> >> > >> >> > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to >> >> > proceed >> >> > from there) ... nothing happened. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Remy >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 >> >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > Hello, >> >> > >> >> > Make a project. >> >> > Highlight the project in the work area >> >> > Click on properties >> >> > Select Export >> >> > >> >> > What does the page say? >> >> > >> >> > Pat >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the >> >> >> users >> >> >> the >> >> >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new >> >> >> version >> >> >> have >> >> >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Remy >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> >> >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Fay >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything >> >> >>> about >> >> >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. >> >> >>> Could >> >> >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I >> >> >>> had >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is >> >> >>> it?) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Regards, >> >> >>> Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >> >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >> >> >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Fay, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> >> >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and >> >> >>> replaced >> >> >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I >> >> > thought >> >> >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go >> >> >>> through >> >> >> the >> >> >>> process again just in case now. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Regards, >> >> >>> Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have >> >> >>> had >> >> >> some >> >> >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She >> >> >>> showed >> >> >>> me >> >> >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it >> >> >>> was >> >> >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had >> >> >>> installed it >> >> >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you >> >> >>> complete >> >> >>> the installation? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some >> >> >>> advice >> >> >> if >> >> >>> you let us know what's failing. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Fay >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________________ >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but >> >> >>> haven't >> >> >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> >> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you >> >> >>> don't >> >> >>> need >> >> >> the >> >> >>> setup folder) >> >> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest >> >> >>> access >> >> >> e.g. >> >> >>> create and test an LO >> >> >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> >> >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to >> >> >>> ldap >> >> >> table >> >> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication >> >> >>> options in >> >> >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> >> >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> >> >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> >> >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> >>> >> >> >>> HTH >> >> >>> Ron >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy >> >> >>> Olasoji >> >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above >> >> >>> please? I >> >> >>> am >> >> >>> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will >> >> >> appreciate >> >> >>> any help. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Regards, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> >> >>> addressee >> >> >>> and >> >> >> may >> >> >>> contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> >> >>> in >> >> >> error, >> >> >>> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 15:51:22 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:51:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E01635727@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><008101cd8f66$ebf328b0$c3d97a10$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D137@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D138@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13A@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D13D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk><00be01cd90ee$6b068ce0$4113a6a0$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D143@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Not to worry. Did hesitate a bit before sending the link but I was getting desperate & I guess that should motivate me to think about authentication soonest. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 15:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 There is no mention in the act of how you find the site (trust me, the law is so wide open you can get charged for accidentally using a system, it is really quite scary) Second letter, twenty pounds On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > I was invited: > "The site is here: http://xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx.xx/ by the way." > > Whistle for your tenner. > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:29:54 +0100 > >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> Technically it is a criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act >> (1988) to access any system (even if the system has no security) >> without permission. >> >> My legal fee is 10 pounds. >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dave Burnett >> wrote: >> > Too late. I created a folder called Dave. >> > >> >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:37 +0100 >> >> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> please please please put some security on that link >> >> >> >> It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1.7 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Ron, >> >> > >> >> > There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, >> >> > Interactivity, >> >> > Misc but no Connectors:). >> >> > I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the >> >> > site >> >> > and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. >> >> > The >> >> > site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Remy >> >> > >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell >> >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 >> >> > To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace >> >> > >> >> > Select Edit - the editor window opens >> >> > >> >> > Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page >> >> > type >> >> > you wish to insert >> >> > >> >> > Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text >> >> > menu >> >> > >> >> > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors >> >> > menu? >> >> > If so you have upgraded to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they >> >> > expecting >> >> > to >> >> > see? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy >> >> > Olasoji >> >> > Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 >> >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your >> >> > instructions, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > clicked on Create (right panel) >> >> > >> >> > entered a name for a project >> >> > >> >> > a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to >> >> > proceed >> >> > from there) ... nothing happened. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Remy >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> > >> >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> >> > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 >> >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> > >> >> > Hello, >> >> > >> >> > Make a project. >> >> > Highlight the project in the work area >> >> > Click on properties >> >> > Select Export >> >> > >> >> > What does the page say? >> >> > >> >> > Pat >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the >> >> >> users >> >> >> the >> >> >> site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new >> >> >> version >> >> >> have >> >> >> been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Remy >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley >> >> >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 >> >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The database hasn't changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> What problem are you getting exactly? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Fay >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything >> >> >>> about >> >> >>> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. >> >> >>> Could >> >> >>> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I >> >> >>> had >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is >> >> >>> it?) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Regards, >> >> >>> Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: Remy Olasoji >> >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >>> Cc: Rose Heaney >> >> >>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Fay, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> >> >>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and >> >> >>> replaced >> >> >>> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I >> >> > thought >> >> >>> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go >> >> >>> through >> >> >> the >> >> >>> process again just in case now. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Regards, >> >> >>> Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> >> >>> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Remy >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have >> >> >>> had >> >> >> some >> >> >>> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She >> >> >>> showed >> >> >>> me >> >> >>> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it >> >> >>> was >> >> >>> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had >> >> >>> installed it >> >> >>> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you >> >> >>> complete >> >> >>> the installation? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some >> >> >>> advice >> >> >> if >> >> >>> you let us know what's failing. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Fay >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________________ >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> >>> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but >> >> >>> haven't >> >> >>> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> >> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you >> >> >>> don't >> >> >>> need >> >> >> the >> >> >>> setup folder) >> >> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest >> >> >>> access >> >> >> e.g. >> >> >>> create and test an LO >> >> >>> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> >> >>> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to >> >> >>> ldap >> >> >> table >> >> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication >> >> >>> options in >> >> >>> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> >> >>> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> >> >>> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> >> >>> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> >>> >> >> >>> HTH >> >> >>> Ron >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy >> >> >>> Olasoji >> >> >>> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above >> >> >>> please? 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I'll check our records again for source folder location. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 15:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 There's a version.txt file in the root of the zip which should refer to Xerte Online Toolkits v1.8? Also there's a moodle_integration_readme.txt which also refers to 1.8? If the zip you extracted contains these files then are you sure you are updating the correct installation directory? As Pat say's your current installation appears to be unauthenticated and is not 1.8 and doesn't have the 1.8 files. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, Remy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 15:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 There's a version.txt file in the root of the zip which should refer to Xerte Online Toolkits v1.8? Also there's a moodle_integration_readme.txt which also refers to 1.8? If the zip you extracted contains these files then are you sure you are updating the correct installation directory? As Pat say's your current installation appears to be unauthenticated and is not 1.8 and doesn't have the 1.8 files. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Sep 19 15:39:09 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:39:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0163574B@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00f001cd90f3$6bbf8a60$433e9f20$@co.uk> <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0163574B@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004501cd9674$8828cb40$987a61c0$@co.uk> Hi Remy yes both the previous moodle patch and the version built-in to 1.8 work with Moodle 2.3. However if you are now using Moodle 1.8 code don't attempt to use the old moodle patch code. Simply follow the instructions included with the XOT 1.8 download in moodle_integration_readme.txt at the top of which refers to XOT 1.8. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 19 September 2012 15:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, Found out you created a patch to integrate xerte with Moodle (http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2009-June/002020.html) and thought it could be easier (or better) to authenticate that way. Is the patch applicable to Moodle 2.3? Regards, Remy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 15:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 There's a version.txt file in the root of the zip which should refer to Xerte Online Toolkits v1.8? Also there's a moodle_integration_readme.txt which also refers to 1.8? If the zip you extracted contains these files then are you sure you are updating the correct installation directory? As Pat say's your current installation appears to be unauthenticated and is not 1.8 and doesn't have the 1.8 files. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy >> or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 15:49:39 2012 From: r.olasoji at uel.ac.uk (Remy Olasoji) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:49:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 In-Reply-To: <004501cd9674$8828cb40$987a61c0$@co.uk> References: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0157D142@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <00f001cd90f3$6bbf8a60$433e9f20$@co.uk><02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0163574B@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> <004501cd9674$8828cb40$987a61c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <02D8AE6072ED314BA00A9A280D22C81E0163574D@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> Great! Thanks Ron - I'll give it a go. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 19 September 2012 15:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Remy yes both the previous moodle patch and the version built-in to 1.8 work with Moodle 2.3. However if you are now using Moodle 1.8 code don't attempt to use the old moodle patch code. Simply follow the instructions included with the XOT 1.8 download in moodle_integration_readme.txt at the top of which refers to XOT 1.8. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 19 September 2012 15:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, Found out you created a patch to integrate xerte with Moodle (http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2009-June/002020.html) and thought it could be easier (or better) to authenticate that way. Is the patch applicable to Moodle 2.3? Regards, Remy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2012 15:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 There's a version.txt file in the root of the zip which should refer to Xerte Online Toolkits v1.8? Also there's a moodle_integration_readme.txt which also refers to 1.8? If the zip you extracted contains these files then are you sure you are updating the correct installation directory? As Pat say's your current installation appears to be unauthenticated and is not 1.8 and doesn't have the 1.8 files. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hi Ron, There was no Connectors menu; Text, Media, Navigators, Charts, Interactivity, Misc but no Connectors:). I am not sure what's missing but someone else on the list checked the site and confirmed it is still 1.7 before I downloaded the zip file again. The site is here: http://xerte.uelconnect.org.uk/ by the way. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 14:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 What you've created is a new empty project without any pages. Select it - so that it's highlighted in your workspace Select Edit - the editor window opens Select Insert > and choose a category of page types and then the page type you wish to insert Here's a screencast showing the various page types under the Text menu http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_3 My previous question was if you select Insert do you see a Connectors menu? If so you have upgraded to 1.8 What are your colleagues saying that is missing? What are they expecting to see? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji Sent: 12 September 2012 14:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 I am sorry but I must be missing something. I tried your instructions, clicked on Create (right panel) entered a name for a project a new window opened and I clicked on publish (no idea how else to proceed from there) ... nothing happened. Regards, Remy ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 Hello, Make a project. Highlight the project in the work area Click on properties Select Export What does the page say? Pat On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded version 1.8 and upgraded but I understand from the users the > site is still version 1.7 - not sure how to make sure the new version have > been uploaded beyond refreshing the site. > > Regards, > Remy > > ________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Pat Lockley > Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > > > The database hasn't changed. > > What problem are you getting exactly? > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Remy Olasoji wrote: >> Hi Fay >> >> Just had a thought about this. The instruction didn't say anything about >> starting with a new database so I am still using the old database. Could >> that be the problem maybe? Should I use a new database? (Since I had to >> remove the setup folder, I assumed the old database is needed - is it?) >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Remy Olasoji >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 13:06 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Cc: Rose Heaney >> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi Fay, >> >> Yes I downloaded and unzipped the version here: >> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/community.htm. Unzipped it and replaced >> the site folder with the files, after removing the setup folder. I thought >> maybe the copy on that web page could be the problem but I'll go through > the >> process again just in case now. >> >> Thanks a lot for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Remy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Fay Cross >> Sent: Wed 12/09/2012 12:16 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Remy >> >> I've just spoken to a colleague of yours at ALT-C who said you have had > some >> problems upgrading (sorry I can't recall her name - Rose?). She showed me >> your installation where she thought you had installed 1.8 but it was >> definitely missing things and still looked like 1.7 to me. What are the >> problems you are having? She seemed to be saying that you had installed it >> but nothing seems to have changed, or are the problems before you complete >> the installation? >> >> Someone on the list (probably not me!) should be able to give some advice > if >> you let us know what's failing. >> >> Fay >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> Sent: 10 September 2012 16:14 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> I was planning to write up some instructions and.or screencast but haven't >> found time yet. Here's a quick summary: >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the >> setup folder) >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access > e.g. >> create and test an LO >> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit >> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to copy details from sitedeatils to ldap > table >> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in >> config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the >> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file >> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Remy Olasoji >> Sent: 10 September 2012 15:33 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Could anyone point me to a set of instructions for the above please? I am >> experiencing some problems upgrading on a Linux web server so will > appreciate >> any help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Remy >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may >> contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, >> please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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I'd look to upgrade it to the current version, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 19 September 2012 16:21 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] movie size optional property/ undefined Hi Just wondering if anyone knows how to enter the dimensions for the optional property 'movie size' in the Flash template in toolkits? I've tried 720,576 and 720x576 just to give you a few examples of attempts. Also, not sure how it has happened, but we are getting 'undefined' appearing in some places around Xerte such as the Ispring template (when viewed live), also 'undefined' when viewing/ hovering over the contents icon near the back arrow, and also 'undefined' above the contents window, any ideas much appreciated (although I am hoping the next/clean upgrade of Xerte might get rid of these issues). 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Op 19-9-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > Have you updated some parts of the installation, and not all of it? > i.e. a new XMLEngine.swf at any point? I'd look to upgrade it to the > current version, > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Catherall, Paul > *Sent:* 19 September 2012 16:21 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] movie size optional property/ undefined > > Hi > > Just wondering if anyone knows how to enter the dimensions for the > optional property 'movie size' in the Flash template in toolkits? > > I've tried 720,576 and 720x576 just to give you a few examples of > attempts. > > Also, not sure how it has happened, but we are getting 'undefined' > appearing in some places around Xerte such as the Ispring template > (when viewed live), also 'undefined' when viewing/ hovering over the > contents icon near the back arrow, and also 'undefined' above the > contents window, any ideas much appreciated (although I am hoping the > next/clean upgrade of Xerte might get rid of these issues). > > Rgds > > Paul > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Op 19-9-2012 17:20, Catherall, Paul schreef: > [Xerte] Re: Upgrading xerte online toolkits to 1.8 > > Hi > > Just wondering if anyone knows how to enter the dimensions for the > optional property 'movie size' in the Flash template in toolkits? > > I've tried 720,576 and 720x576 just to give you a few examples of > attempts. > > Also, not sure how it has happened, but we are getting 'undefined' > appearing in some places around Xerte such as the Ispring template > (when viewed live), also 'undefined' when viewing/ hovering over the > contents icon near the back arrow, and also 'undefined' above the > contents window, any ideas much appreciated (although I am hoping the > next/clean upgrade of Xerte might get rid of these issues). > > Rgds > > Paul > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Sometimes Xerte can't detect the correct size of the movie which is partly why there are separate page types for Jing and iSpring etc. Let us know if that helps? Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 20 September 2012 09:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: movie size optional property/ undefined As for the movie size, looking at the code, it's interpreting that field as a comma separated list, so 720,576 should work (haven't tested that). Op 19-9-2012 17:20, Catherall, Paul schreef: Hi Just wondering if anyone knows how to enter the dimensions for the optional property 'movie size' in the Flash template in toolkits? I've tried 720,576 and 720x576 just to give you a few examples of attempts. Also, not sure how it has happened, but we are getting 'undefined' appearing in some places around Xerte such as the Ispring template (when viewed live), also 'undefined' when viewing/ hovering over the contents icon near the back arrow, and also 'undefined' above the contents window, any ideas much appreciated (although I am hoping the next/clean upgrade of Xerte might get rid of these issues). Rgds Paul This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 154688 bytes Desc: not available URL: From R.W.Butler at liverpool.ac.uk Thu Sep 20 10:27:46 2012 From: R.W.Butler at liverpool.ac.uk (Butler, Ross) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:27:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Upgrade Message-ID: Dear all, We are currently seeking to upgrade from an older version of Xerte (Online Toolkits) hosted on IIS to the latest version. We wish to maintain the existing database in order to preserve our existing content. Which config files would need to be modified after installing a fresh version of Xerte in order to hook it up to our existing database? I presume that once done, Xerte will pick up our LDAP settings from the database but would any additional configuration be required in order to re-enable LDAP authentication on this new install (we authenticate at present using our Active Directory server with Xerte)? Many thanks in advance for your assistance, Kind regards, Ross -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 September 2012 09:59 To: Xerte discussion list Cc: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte] Eventbrite tickets for the forthcoming Xerte conference - relevant to those attending both days Maybe I am a bit slow this morning, but I thought it might be useful anyway to warn those attending both days of a possible "gotcha". This is the first time I have used the Eventbrite system, so was a little surprised when it generated two emails for me to download my ticket. Both emails were identical. The file name for the pdf file that each linked to was the same. However the pdf content of the two files was different since each pdf represented a ticket for one of the two days. So if you are attending both days it looks like you will need to print out both pdfs, so you may want to avoid overwriting the first pdf when you download the second. 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Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 27 13:08:59 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:08:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Thu Sep 27 16:19:43 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Brane_=A9mitek?=) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:19:43 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001901cd9cc3$856d9700$9048c500$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Sep 29 10:33:08 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:33:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Sun Sep 30 16:47:54 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?UTF-8?Q?Brane_=C5=A0mitek?=) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:47:54 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any > financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version > of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I > do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before > I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming > you are using the desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter > the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if > there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are > causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for > you current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not > change any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by > previewing it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Julian > Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Branislav > S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: > "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package > in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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