[Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start

Kemp Johnathan johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
Thu Oct 4 10:54:48 BST 2012


Again make sure you create your project by doing

Pages / Create new pages project

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 4 October 2012 10:51, Robin Bright <robin.bright at duchy.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Actually this seems to be happening to me too - using the desktop
> version, I can add interactivity, but when I preview, all questions answers
> etc just show as "undefined". If I export as a scorm package and add to
> moodle I get the XML problem Branislav mentioned originally.
>
>
>
> Xerte doesn't seem to be creating a common folder or copying the files
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 04 October 2012 08:10
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not
> working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are
> aware of,  experiencing this issue.
>
> But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so,
> I'll have a look...
>
> Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside
> project folder and files.
>
> I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder
> T:\Izobraževanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test.
>
> Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else?
>
> I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New.
>
> For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all
> data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?)
>
> Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to
> project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside
> it.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should
> contain a lot of resource files such as  .swf and .png files that are used
> by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot
> find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview.
>
>
>
> If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then
> there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to
> preview.
>
>
>
> It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files
> in it.
>
>
>
> If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your
> Xerte installation folder they are found typically in
>
>
>
> C:\xerte\pages\common
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> We solved problem with starting simple RLO.
>
> Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in
> common.
>
> I can use text and image icon.
>
> When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result
> in preview window.
>
> I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there
> is no result in preview window.
>
> I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems.
>
> Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet?
>
> I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> Are there any files in <Ueer Dir>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
> Files\Xerte ?
>
> Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine
> is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to
> the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the
> attributes in the XML file.
>
> To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best
> use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we
> will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to
> localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that!
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> 32 bit, English.
>
> I used Publish and Package variant.
>
> Installation folder has Languages files.
>
> Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't  file
> engine_en-GB.xml.
>
> Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte?
>
> Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language.
>
> Which way you suggest?
>
>
>
>
>
> 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian?
>
> I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and
> installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC.
>
> The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning
> object.
> I tried:
>
> 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project)
>     Package from the wizard
>     Publish from the Xerte editor
>
> All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me.
>
> Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object?
>
> Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the
> setup and choose  'Run as administrator'?
>
> I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up
> in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files
> folder.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> Windows 7.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Can I ask what OS you are using?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem.
>
> During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same
> solution.
>
> I found missing file in directory you mentioned.
>
> I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user
> interface buttons.
>
> It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed
> files
>
> for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our
> characters in
>
> top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle.
>
> Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I
> found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p.
>
> In the meantime, you can check for yourself:
>
> In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it
> doesn't contain the correct files.
>
> 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte
> insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files
> (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the
> languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work
> correctly.
>
> 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well.
>
> This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte.
>
> For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in
> browser.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look?
>
>
>
>
>
>  Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane Šmitek schreef:
>
> I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program.
>
>
>
> I tried all three suggested methods to  create three test modules.
>
> Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names.
>
> There is no content in modules, empty page.
>
> Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file
>
> the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question.
>
> I can record screen that you will see my way of the work.
>
>
>
> So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials.
>
> I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students.
>
> I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial
> resources for that.
>
> The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible
> learning materials.
>
> Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and
> would like to use it.
>
> I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of
> Xerte (desktop or Online)
>
> do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do
> not have the
>
> server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I
> start with work.
>
> I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their
> electronic learning modules.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you
> are using the desktop Xerte program.
>
>
>
> What version of Xerte are you using?
>
>
>
> What steps did you take to create your project?
>
> e.g. "file / new"
>
> or
>
> "templates / page templates"
>
> or
>
> "pages / create new pages project"
>
>
>
> Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"?
>
>
>
> The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using
> either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project".
>
>
>
> Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the
> information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your
> information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ?
>
>
>
> One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there
> might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a
> problem for Xerte by breaking the xml.
>
>
>
> Try this test.
>
> Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you
> current project that is not displaying.
>
> Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change
> any of the default data that the pages start with.
>
> Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly?
>
>
>
> If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just
> standard Xerte stuff.
>
>
>
> Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing
> it after adding each element of data.
>
> You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the
> problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is
> compromising your xml data.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> No. I have the same problem running it localy.
>
> Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> Does it work when you run it locally?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Branislav Šmitek
> *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41
> *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte.
>
> I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml
> Loading."
>
> What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in
> Moodle.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Branislav SMITEK Ph.D.
> University of Maribor
> FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES
> Kidriceva cesta 55/a
> SI4000 KRANJ
> SLOVENIA
>
> tel: +386 4 237 42 63
> fax: +386 4 237 42 99
> e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si
>
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