[Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Oct 4 08:10:24 BST 2012


Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not 
working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are 
aware of,  experiencing this issue.

But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, 
I'll have a look...

Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav S(mitek schreef:
>
> I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder 
> inside project folder and files.
>
> I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder 
> T:\Izobraz(evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test.
>
> Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else?
>
> I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New.
>
> For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input 
> all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work 
> o.k.?)
>
> Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to 
> project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files 
> inside it.
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp 
> Johnathan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
> The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It 
> should contain a lot of resource files such as  .swf and .png files 
> that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then 
> any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example 
> panel.swf, will fail to preview.
>
> If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form 
> then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page 
> not to preview.
>
> It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these 
> files in it.
>
> If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from 
> your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in
>
> C:\xerte\pages\common
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav S(mitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si 
> <mailto:brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>> wrote:
>
> We solved problem with starting simple RLO.
>
> Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte 
> in common.
>
> I can use text and image icon.
>
> When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any 
> result in preview window.
>
> I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but 
> there is no result in preview window.
>
> I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems.
>
> Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet?
>
> I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
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> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Tom 
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
> Are there any files in <Ueer Dir>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program 
> Files\Xerte ?
>
> Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime 
> engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the 
> english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and 
> translate all the attributes in the XML file.
>
> To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you 
> best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This 
> month we will publish a community website with all relevant 
> information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait 
> for that!
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav S(mitek schreef:
>
>     32 bit, English.
>
>     I used Publish and Package variant.
>
>     Installation folder has Languages files.
>
>     Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't  file
>     engine_en-GB.xml.
>
>     Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte?
>
>     Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian
>     language.
>
>     Which way you suggest?
>
>     32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian?
>
>     I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website
>     and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC.
>
>     The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the
>     learning object.
>     I tried:
>
>     1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project)
>         Package from the wizard
>         Publish from the Xerte editor
>
>     All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me.
>
>     Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object?
>
>     Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click
>     the setup and choose  'Run as administrator'?
>
>     I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually
>     ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the
>     Program Files folder.
>
>     Tom
>
>     Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav S(mitek schreef:
>
>         Windows 7.
>
>         Can I ask what OS you are using?
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Tom
>
>         Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav S(mitek schreef:
>
>             Thank you for your response.
>
>             Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem.
>
>             During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered
>             the same solution.
>
>             I found missing file in directory you mentioned.
>
>             I also find out that I can localize file and I get
>             slovenian text in user interface buttons.
>
>             It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't
>             copy all needed files
>
>             for correct final version. I also discovered the problem
>             with our characters in
>
>             top level module page. They caused xml error at loading
>             SCORM in Moodle.
>
>             Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment.
>
>             Thank you!
>
>             I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds
>             of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed
>             a.s.a.p.
>
>             In the meantime, you can check for yourself:
>
>             In the resulting folders there is a folder called
>             languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files.
>
>             1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of
>             your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages
>             or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more
>             than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of
>             your learning object, and let me know if they now work
>             correctly.
>
>             2. If the files are not there, let me know as well.
>
>             This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p.
>
>             Tom
>
>             Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef:
>
>                 I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done
>                 with Xerte.
>
>                 For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't
>                 start them in browser.
>
>                 Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have
>                 a look?
>
>
>
>
>                 Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef:
>
>                     I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program.
>
>                     I tried all three suggested methods to  create
>                     three test modules.
>
>                     Modules are without any content. Names of the
>                     objects are default names.
>
>                     There is no content in modules, empty page.
>
>                     Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and
>                     start index.html file
>
>                     the result is the same that I described in
>                     beginning of the question.
>
>                     I can record screen that you will see my way of
>                     the work.
>
>                     So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic
>                     learning materials.
>
>                     I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces
>                     with students.
>
>                     I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i
>                     don't have any financial resources for that.
>
>                     The old (free) version of mentioned program
>                     produce only IE compatible learning materials.
>
>                     Xerte seems appropriate software for producing
>                     teaching materials and would like to use it.
>
>                     I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real
>                     life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online)
>
>                     do you recommend me. I would rather use the
>                     desktop version because I do not have the
>
>                     server. I encountered the problems that I would
>                     like to resolve before I start with work.
>
>                     I would like that Xerte will also use students for
>                     producing their electronic learning modules.
>
>                     *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                     <mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                     [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                     Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>                     *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM
>                     *To:* Xerte discussion list
>                     *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>                     You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online
>                     Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the
>                     desktop Xerte program.
>
>                     What version of Xerte are you using?
>
>                     What steps did you take to create your project?
>
>                     e.g. "file / new"
>
>                     or
>
>                     "templates / page templates"
>
>                     or
>
>                     "pages / create new pages project"
>
>                     Are you able to view your project in Xerte by
>                     doing "view / preview"?
>
>                     The following suggestions will apply if your
>                     project was created using either "templates / page
>                     templates" or "pages / create new pages project".
>
>                     Your pages will have forms that you can open which
>                     you use to enter the information that the pages
>                     will dispay. Have you included in your information
>                     any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ?
>
>                     One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia.
>                     I am wondering if there might possibly be any
>                     characters in your alphabet that are causing a
>                     problem for Xerte by breaking the xml.
>
>                     Try this test.
>
>                     Create a new project in Xerte using the same
>                     method that you used for you current project that
>                     is not displaying.
>
>                     Add each of the two pages that your original
>                     project has but do not change any of the default
>                     data that the pages start with.
>
>                     Do "View / Preview" - does your project display
>                     correctly?
>
>                     If should display correctly as at this point
>                     everything is still just standard Xerte stuff.
>
>                     Now add each element of data to each page and test
>                     each page by previewing it after adding each
>                     element of data.
>
>                     You may find that it is a particular data element
>                     that is causing the problem. This process should
>                     help you to identify what if anything is
>                     compromising your xml data.
>
>                     Hope this helps.
>
>                     Kind regards
>
>                     Johnathan
>
>                     On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek
>                     <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si
>                     <mailto:brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>> wrote:
>
>                     No. I have the same problem running it localy.
>
>                     Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with
>                     mentioned screen.
>
>                     *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>                     [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                     <mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>                     Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>                     *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM
>                     *To:* Xerte discussion list
>                     *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>                     Does it work when you run it locally?
>
>                     *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>                     [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>                     Behalf Of *Branislav S(mitek
>                     *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41
>                     *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>                     <mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>                     *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start
>
>                     I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte.
>
>                     I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a
>                     screen that says: "xml Loading."
>
>                     What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I
>                     loaded SCORM package in Moodle.
>
>                     Kind regards
>
>                     Branislav SMITEK Ph.D.
>                     University of Maribor
>                     FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES
>                     Kidriceva cesta 55/a
>                     SI4000 KRANJ
>                     SLOVENIA
>
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>                     fax: +386 4 237 42 99
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