From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 1 05:54:56 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 06:54:56 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> Message-ID: <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default > names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning > materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any > financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE > compatible learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials > and would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which > version of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version > because I do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve > before I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am > assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created > using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new > pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to > enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you > included in your information any none alphabetic characters such > as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering > if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that > are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used > for you current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do > not change any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still > just standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by > previewing it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing > the problem. This process should help you to identify what if > anything is compromising your xml data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > > > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Branislav S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that > says: "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM > package in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 1 08:14:16 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:14:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> Message-ID: <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Oct 1 08:27:07 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:27:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in > user interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all > needed files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. > I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, > it doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to > the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they > now work correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them > in browser. > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are > default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html > file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the > question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning > materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have > any financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE > compatible learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching > materials and would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which > version of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version > because I do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to > resolve before I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing > their electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am > assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / > preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was > created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / > create new pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to > enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you > included in your information any none alphabetic characters > such as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am > wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your > alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you > used for you current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but > do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is > still just standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page > by previewing it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is > causing the problem. This process should help you to identify > what if anything is compromising your xml data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Branislav S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that > says: "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM > package in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this message in error, please send it back to > me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 1 08:37:05 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:37:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> Message-ID: <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Oct 1 08:58:17 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:58:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the > same solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text > in user interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all > needed files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in > Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of > projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, > however, it doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your > xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program > Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, > copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and > let me know if they now work correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start > them in browser. > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test > modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are > default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start > index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of > the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic > learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with > students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't > have any financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only > IE compatible learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching > materials and would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. > Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop > version because I do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to > resolve before I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for > producing their electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I > am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view > / preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was > created using either "templates / page templates" or > "pages / create new pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use > to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have > you included in your information any none alphabetic > characters such as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am > wondering if there might possibly be any characters in > your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by > breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that > you used for you current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has > but do not change any of the default data that the pages > start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is > still just standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each > page by previewing it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is > causing the problem. This process should help you to > identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Branislav S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen > that says: "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded > SCORM package in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for > the addressee and may contain confidential information. If > you have received this message in error, please send it > back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy or disclose the information contained in this message > or in any attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 1 09:26:56 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:26:56 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> Message-ID: <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Oct 1 09:44:37 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:44:37 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually > ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the > Program Files folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the > same solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian > text in user interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy > all needed files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with > our characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM > in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of > projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, > however, it doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your > xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or > c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 > file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your > learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't > start them in browser. > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three > test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects > are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start > index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning > of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic > learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with > students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't > have any financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce > only IE compatible learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing > teaching materials and would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real > life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop > version because I do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like > to resolve before I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for > producing their electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, > so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing > "view / preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your project > was created using either "templates / page templates" > or "pages / create new pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you > use to enter the information that the pages will > dispay. Have you included in your information any none > alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am > wondering if there might possibly be any characters in > your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by > breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method > that you used for you current project that is not > displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project > has but do not change any of the default data that the > pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point > everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test > each page by previewing it after adding each element > of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that > is causing the problem. This process should help you > to identify what if anything is compromising your xml > data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned > screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On > Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Branislav S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a > screen that says: "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I > loaded SCORM package in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely > for the addressee and may contain confidential > information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately > delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 1 11:07:02 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:07:02 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> Message-ID: <00be01cd9fbc$806c9480$8145bd80$@fov.uni-mb.si> Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Two empty folders: swfmill; undefined and file: resources.swf. Thank you for inaformation about localization. Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. 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In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl> Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: > > I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. > Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <010d01cd9fdf$934f17d0$b9ed4770$@co.uk> Media > Image Viewer From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 14:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Zoom in on an image. I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Media > Image Viewer From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 14:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Zoom in on an image. I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates.Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Oct 1 15:33:04 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:33:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl> Message-ID: <012401cd9fe1$abb3aeb0$031b0c10$@co.uk> Page 10 of http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 15:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? _____ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett wrote: > Thanks Inge. > > You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions > correct? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 > From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. > > > Hi Dave, > > There are two possibilities: > The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in > and out. > The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first > picture will morph into the other picture. > > Good luck! > > Bye, > Inge > > 1 2 Change > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242 HM Rosmalen > T 073-5226195 > F 073-5226196 > E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu > I www.12change.eu > > T twitter > L linkedIn > > Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: > > > I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. > Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl>, , Message-ID: Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted.I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett wrote: Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted. I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett > wrote: Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Yeah, that?s the if (dave_burnett) { just act a bit screwy } code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:30 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted.I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett wrote:Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates.Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 1 16:33:53 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:33:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348139@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348140@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You cheeky monkey. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. An unhandled error in Julian's code. Quelle surprise. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Yeah, that's the if (dave_burnett) { just act a bit screwy } code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:30 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted. I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett > wrote: Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. An unhandled error in Julian's code.Quelle surprise. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.Yeah, that?s the if (dave_burnett) { just act a bit screwy } code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:30 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted.I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett wrote:Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates.Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 1 16:54:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:54:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348139@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348140@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348173@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Trapping errors just bloats the code anyway. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:35 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. :-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:33:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. You cheeky monkey. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. An unhandled error in Julian's code. Quelle surprise. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Yeah, that's the if (dave_burnett) { just act a bit screwy } code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:30 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted. I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett > wrote: Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? ________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates. Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348173@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , , , , , , , , , <5069A4BB.5050405@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348139@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348140@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E348173@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Agreed.Same for comments. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:54:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Trapping errors just bloats the code anyway. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:35 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. :-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:33:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.You cheeky monkey. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:34 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. An unhandled error in Julian's code.Quelle surprise.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.Yeah, that?s the if (dave_burnett) { just act a bit screwy } code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 October 2012 16:30 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Well that was real interesting. The controls did not show over the original .jpg I inserted.I inserted a duifferent one, then reinserted the original and now they are there. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:05:55 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image.Hello Dave, The image viewer page includes a zoom button and a select area button as part of the page, not as a right click menu. The morph image page allows you to swap one image for another. When you click the zoom button it toggles between the two images. Kind regards Johnathan On 1 October 2012 15:17, Dave Burnett wrote:Thanks Inge. You are referring to the native Flash right click menu Zoom functions correct? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0200 From: i.donkervoort at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Zoom in on an image. Hi Dave, There are two possibilities: The Image Vviewer where the user can selct a spot on the image and zoom in and out. The other is the Morph Images where you add two pictures and the first picture will morph into the other picture. Good luck! Bye, Inge 1 2 Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 1-10-2012 15:49, Dave Burnett schreef: I'm not the most familiar with the XOT templates.Do any of them implement a zoom/pan on image capability? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I?ve > searched the archive and can?t find any info so hope someone has done this > already. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Yvonne Moore > e-Learning Developer > > > > e-Learning & Innovation > > Ashley Down Centre > > City of Bristol College > > PO Box 2887 > Bristol > BS2 2BB > > Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk > > Call: 0117 312 5276 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From lancewoolf at me.com Tue Oct 2 11:59:43 2012 From: lancewoolf at me.com (Lance Woolf) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:59:43 +0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SSL and XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <277CB9DD-B6E9-41D2-8519-335CAD80ABAA@me.com> Hi there, To the best of my knowledge turning on SSL shouldn't interfere with the function of XOT. - Lance Sent from my iPhone On 02/10/2012, at 6:35 PM, Pat Lockley wrote: > I don't think there is anything, bar maybe a few places where a http > might be coded in directly > > searching the code for http would tell you where those where. > > Also, the Iframe option will cause issues if the XOT is https (for some people) > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Yvonne Moore > wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> >> We?ve just installed XOT and currently testing but we want to turn SSL on >> and wonder if there are any issues to consider before going ahead. I?ve >> searched the archive and can?t find any info so hope someone has done this >> already. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> Yvonne Moore >> e-Learning Developer >> >> >> >> e-Learning & Innovation >> >> Ashley Down Centre >> >> City of Bristol College >> >> PO Box 2887 >> Bristol >> BS2 2BB >> >> Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk >> >> Call: 0117 312 5276 >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Yvonne.Moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 12:41:22 2012 From: Yvonne.Moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk (Yvonne Moore) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:41:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] XOT published URL Message-ID: Hi Thanks for the swift response to my previous query, and now for another I hope you can help with too. Is it possible to alter the location of published LOs from XOT? We have Equella (repository) and want to publish LO's directly to it - rather than have to add a separate item. Is this possible? Thanks Yvonne Moore e-Learning Developer e-Learning & Innovation Ashley Down Centre City of Bristol College PO Box 2887 Bristol BS2 2BB Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk Call: 0117 312 5276 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Oct 2 12:46:27 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:46:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT published URL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: define "alter the location" On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Yvonne Moore wrote: > Hi > > > > Thanks for the swift response to my previous query, and now for another I > hope you can help with too. > > > > Is it possible to alter the location of published LOs from XOT? We have > Equella (repository) and want to publish LO?s directly to it ? rather than > have to add a separate item. Is this possible? > > > > Thanks > > > > Yvonne Moore > e-Learning Developer > > > > e-Learning & Innovation > > Ashley Down Centre > > City of Bristol College > > PO Box 2887 > Bristol > BS2 2BB > > Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk > > Call: 0117 312 5276 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 16:48:07 2012 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:48:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We've got a test XOT on 1.7 and a production XOT upgraded to 1.8 and like others I'd like to know how best to port 1.7 content over. When I manually import .zip projects I get a 'File Transfer has Failed' error. Any thoughts? 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Oct 2 19:18:35 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:18:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <506B2FFB.3060801@tor.nl> This should work. I have fixed some issues relating to this lately, but I don't know the details by heart anymore. Will let you know. Tom Op 2-10-2012 17:48, Lynch M (LCSS) schreef: > > We've got a test XOT on 1.7 and a production XOT upgraded to 1.8 and > like others I'd like to know how best to port 1.7 content over. When I > manually import .zip projects I get a 'File Transfer has Failed' error. > > Any thoughts? > > Martin Lynch FHEA > > Learning Systems Manager > > University of Glamorgan > > 01443 483764 > > mlynch at glam.ac.uk > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Yvonne.Moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 09:16:40 2012 From: Yvonne.Moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk (Yvonne Moore) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:16:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT published URL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The server address where LO's are published to. They currently save on the server where Toolkits are installed - can this address be changed to save on the server where our Equella installation sits? I'm not the techy person who will do this stuff, just the person asked to find an answer so apologies if I'm not using the right terminology. Thanks Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 02 October 2012 12:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT published URL define "alter the location" On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Yvonne Moore wrote: > Hi > > > > Thanks for the swift response to my previous query, and now for > another I hope you can help with too. > > > > Is it possible to alter the location of published LOs from XOT? We > have Equella (repository) and want to publish LO's directly to it - > rather than have to add a separate item. Is this possible? > > > > Thanks > > > > Yvonne Moore > e-Learning Developer > > > > e-Learning & Innovation > > Ashley Down Centre > > City of Bristol College > > PO Box 2887 > Bristol > BS2 2BB > > Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk > > Call: 0117 312 5276 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 3 09:37:18 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:37:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT published URL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The files all live on a XOT server, and because PHP is used it would need to be on a server which can execute PHP. Maybe equella could store URLs which do a redirect? On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Yvonne Moore wrote: > The server address where LO's are published to. They currently save on the server where Toolkits are installed - can this address be changed to save on the server where our Equella installation sits? > > I'm not the techy person who will do this stuff, just the person asked to find an answer so apologies if I'm not using the right terminology. > > Thanks > > Yvonne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 October 2012 12:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT published URL > > define "alter the location" > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Yvonne Moore wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> >> Thanks for the swift response to my previous query, and now for >> another I hope you can help with too. >> >> >> >> Is it possible to alter the location of published LOs from XOT? We >> have Equella (repository) and want to publish LO's directly to it - >> rather than have to add a separate item. Is this possible? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Yvonne Moore >> e-Learning Developer >> >> >> >> e-Learning & Innovation >> >> Ashley Down Centre >> >> City of Bristol College >> >> PO Box 2887 >> Bristol >> BS2 2BB >> >> Email: yvonne.moore at cityofbristol.ac.uk >> >> Call: 0117 312 5276 >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 11:58:29 2012 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:58:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip In-Reply-To: <506B2FFB.3060801@tor.nl> References: <506B2FFB.3060801@tor.nl> Message-ID: Just to clarify - we've got 2 instances of XOT, one on 1.7 and one on 1.8 and I'd like to move the projects from 1.7 to 1.8 so I'm looking for advice about that - we don't have many projects so I thought to manually export and import but I get this error. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 02 October 2012 19:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip This should work. I have fixed some issues relating to this lately, but I don't know the details by heart anymore. Will let you know. Tom Op 2-10-2012 17:48, Lynch M (LCSS) schreef: We've got a test XOT on 1.7 and a production XOT upgraded to 1.8 and like others I'd like to know how best to port 1.7 content over. When I manually import .zip projects I get a 'File Transfer has Failed' error. Any thoughts? Martin Lynch FHEA Learning Systems Manager University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Wed Oct 3 12:47:42 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Branislav_=A9mitek?=) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:47:42 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> Message-ID: <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 3 12:52:21 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:52:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip In-Reply-To: References: <506B2FFB.3060801@tor.nl> Message-ID: If you are techie enough, I would copy the logindetails, templatedetails and templaterights tables over, and then move the USER-FILES directory - that'd migrate everything (it should do) On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Lynch M (LCSS) wrote: > Just to clarify ? we?ve got 2 instances of XOT, one on 1.7 and one on 1.8 > and I?d like to move the projects from 1.7 to 1.8 so I?m looking for advice > about that ? we don?t have many projects so I thought to manually export and > import but I get this error. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 02 October 2012 19:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT 1.8 importing content error importing zip > > > > This should work. I have fixed some issues relating to this lately, but I > don't know the details by heart anymore. Will let you know. > > Tom > > Op 2-10-2012 17:48, Lynch M (LCSS) schreef: > > We?ve got a test XOT on 1.7 and a production XOT upgraded to 1.8 and like > others I?d like to know how best to port 1.7 content over. When I manually > import .zip projects I get a ?File Transfer has Failed? error. > > Any thoughts? > > > > Martin Lynch FHEA > > Learning Systems Manager > > University of Glamorgan > > 01443 483764 > > mlynch at glam.ac.uk > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Oct 3 13:00:47 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:00:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek wrote: > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in > common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result > in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there > is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine > is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to > the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the > attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best > use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we > will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to > localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > > > > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up > in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files > folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user > interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed > files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I > found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it > doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the > languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > > > > > > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial > resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of > Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do > not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I > start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you > are using the desktop Xerte program. > > > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the > information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there > might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you > current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change > any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing > it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Oct 3 13:04:52 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:04:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <006b01cda15f$4c43cfd0$e4cb6f70$@co.uk> What movie format did you add? Needs to be .flv From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 03 October 2012 12:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 13:39:34 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:39:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <000001cd9f22$f615a310$e240e930$@smitek@fov.uni-mb.si> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3EBCA1E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> What do you see in the preview window? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 03 October 2012 12:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Thu Oct 4 07:38:50 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?utf-8?Q?Branislav_=C5=A0mitek?=) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 08:38:50 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: Test.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 9036505 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Oct 4 08:10:24 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:10:24 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <506D3660.6080909@tor.nl> Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are aware of, experiencing this issue. But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, I'll have a look... Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder > inside project folder and files. > > I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder > T:\Izobraz(evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. > > Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? > > I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. > > For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input > all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work > o.k.?) > > Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to > project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files > inside it. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It > should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files > that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then > any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example > panel.swf, will fail to preview. > > If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form > then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page > not to preview. > > It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these > files in it. > > If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from > your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in > > C:\xerte\pages\common > > Hope this helps > > Johnathan > > On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav S(mitek > wrote: > > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte > in common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any > result in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but > there is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime > engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the > english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and > translate all the attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you > best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This > month we will publish a community website with all relevant > information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait > for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian > language. > > Which way you suggest? > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website > and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the > learning object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click > the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually > ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the > Program Files folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered > the same solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get > slovenian text in user interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't > copy all needed files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem > with our characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading > SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds > of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed > a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called > languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of > your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages > or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more > than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of > your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav S(mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done > with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't > start them in browser. > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have > a look? > > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane S(mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > I tried all three suggested methods to create > three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the > objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and > start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in > beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of > the work. > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic > learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces > with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i > don't have any financial resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program > produce only IE compatible learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing > teaching materials and would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real > life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the > desktop version because I do not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would > like to resolve before I start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for > producing their electronic learning modules. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online > Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the > desktop Xerte program. > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by > doing "view / preview"? > > The following suggestions will apply if your > project was created using either "templates / page > templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which > you use to enter the information that the pages > will dispay. Have you included in your information > any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. > I am wondering if there might possibly be any > characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same > method that you used for you current project that > is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original > project has but do not change any of the default > data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display > correctly? > > If should display correctly as at this point > everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. > > Now add each element of data to each page and test > each page by previewing it after adding each > element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element > that is causing the problem. This process should > help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane S(mitek > > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with > mentioned screen. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On > Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Branislav S(mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a > screen that says: "xml Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I > loaded SCORM package in Moodle. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > This message and any attachment are intended > solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received > this message in error, please send it back to me, > and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy > or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. 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URL: From robin.bright at duchy.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 10:51:36 2012 From: robin.bright at duchy.ac.uk (Robin Bright) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:51:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <506D3660.6080909@tor.nl> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506D3660.6080909@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1DCBE4B8D572204A8EE37B138E88D8C43B14BDC3@cam-e2010mbx.cornwall.ac.uk> Actually this seems to be happening to me too - using the desktop version, I can add interactivity, but when I preview, all questions answers etc just show as "undefined". If I export as a scorm package and add to moodle I get the XML problem Branislav mentioned originally. Xerte doesn't seem to be creating a common folder or copying the files From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 October 2012 08:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are aware of, experiencing this issue. But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, I'll have a look... Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Robin Bright Sent: 04 October 2012 10:52 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Actually this seems to be happening to me too - using the desktop version, I can add interactivity, but when I preview, all questions answers etc just show as "undefined". If I export as a scorm package and add to moodle I get the XML problem Branislav mentioned originally. Xerte doesn't seem to be creating a common folder or copying the files From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 October 2012 08:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are aware of, experiencing this issue. But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, I'll have a look... Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From robin.bright at duchy.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 10:53:08 2012 From: robin.bright at duchy.ac.uk (Robin Bright) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:53:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3EBCA5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506D3660.6080909@tor.nl> <1DCBE4B8D572204A8EE37B138E88D8C43B14BDC3@cam-e2010mbx.cornwall.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3EBCA5CC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1DCBE4B8D572204A8EE37B138E88D8C43B14BE59@cam-e2010mbx.cornwall.ac.uk> Sorry, yes From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start On Windows 7? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Robin Bright Sent: 04 October 2012 10:52 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Actually this seems to be happening to me too - using the desktop version, I can add interactivity, but when I preview, all questions answers etc just show as "undefined". If I export as a scorm package and add to moodle I get the XML problem Branislav mentioned originally. Xerte doesn't seem to be creating a common folder or copying the files From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 04 October 2012 08:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are aware of, experiencing this issue. But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, I'll have a look... Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Oct 4 10:53:11 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:53:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem lies in how the project was created. At present in Xerte you can do *File / New* To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common" folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models fail to work correctly. If instead you create a project by doing *Pages / Create New Pages Project* Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page models should work. This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided in future. Hope this solves your problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek wrote: > I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside > project folder and files. > > I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder > T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. > > Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? > > I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. > > For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all > data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) > > Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to > project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside > it. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should > contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used > by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot > find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. > > > > If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then > there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to > preview. > > > > It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files > in it. > > > > If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your > Xerte installation folder they are found typically in > > > > C:\xerte\pages\common > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in > common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result > in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there > is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine > is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to > the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the > attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best > use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we > will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to > localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > > > > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up > in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files > folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user > interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed > files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I > found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it > doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the > languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > > > > > > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial > resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of > Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do > not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I > start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you > are using the desktop Xerte program. > > > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the > information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there > might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you > current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change > any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing > it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Oct 4 10:54:48 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:54:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <1DCBE4B8D572204A8EE37B138E88D8C43B14BDC3@cam-e2010mbx.cornwall.ac.uk> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506D3660.6080909@tor.nl> <1DCBE4B8D572204A8EE37B138E88D8C43B14BDC3@cam-e2010mbx.cornwall.ac.uk> Message-ID: Again make sure you create your project by doing Pages / Create new pages project Kind regards Johnathan On 4 October 2012 10:51, Robin Bright wrote: > Actually this seems to be happening to me too - using the desktop > version, I can add interactivity, but when I preview, all questions answers > etc just show as "undefined". If I export as a scorm package and add to > moodle I get the XML problem Branislav mentioned originally. > > > > Xerte doesn't seem to be creating a common folder or copying the files > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 04 October 2012 08:10 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Xerte SHOULD copy all the files during publishing. Somehow that is not > working for you, and as far as we/I know, you are the only one, we are > aware of, experiencing this issue. > > But it also depends a bit on the kind of project you are creating, so, > I'll have a look... > > Op 4-10-2012 8:38, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside > project folder and files. > > I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder > T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. > > Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? > > I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. > > For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all > data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) > > Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to > project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside > it. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should > contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used > by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot > find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. > > > > If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then > there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to > preview. > > > > It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files > in it. > > > > If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your > Xerte installation folder they are found typically in > > > > C:\xerte\pages\common > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in > common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result > in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there > is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine > is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to > the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the > attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best > use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we > will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to > localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > > > > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up > in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files > folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user > interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed > files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I > found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it > doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the > languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > > > > > > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial > resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of > Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do > not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I > start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you > are using the desktop Xerte program. > > > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the > information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there > might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you > current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change > any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing > it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Fri Oct 5 07:38:06 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?utf-8?Q?Branislav_=C5=A0mitek?=) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:38:06 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <007101cda2c3$fa09c880$ee1d5980$@fov.uni-mb.si> Your suggestion was correct medicine for my problems. Now I can view the results of my work. File/New is usual way to start project and I used it. Another problem: I titled interface and all pages created without wizard show the correct title "Moj modul". Pages created with wizard don't do that. I view only text "Learning Object Title". This applies for preview and publish mode. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem lies in how the project was created. At present in Xerte you can do File / New To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common" folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models fail to work correctly. If instead you create a project by doing Pages / Create New Pages Project Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page models should work. This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided in future. Hope this solves your problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek wrote: I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Oct 5 21:22:19 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:22:19 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <007101cda2c3$fa09c880$ee1d5980$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <007101cda2c3$fa09c880$ee1d5980$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: In a pages project the Learning Object has its own wizard. If you double click the Learning Object icon in the Xerte editor, the Learning Object wizard form will open. The first attribute in the Learning Object wizard is Learning Object Title which by default is set in the English Language version to "Learning Object Title" but you can change it in the form. The model files for each page have a line in their "getPageID" script rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); This line captures the Learning Object title entry entered into the wizard and ensures it is displayed when the page is opened. If you are also creating your own pages in the project that are not based on existing page types then you would need to include the above line of code to ensure that the learning object title you entered into the learning object wizard is displayed when your own pages load. The Learning Object wizard in a Pages project also has a child form of "Advance Display" which will allow you to change some of the default display settings such as the position of buttons, the colours used and the size of some of the sections of the layout, as well as to add a background image should you so choose. I hope this helps to resolve your issue. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek wrote: > Your suggestion was correct medicine for my problems. > > Now I can view the results of my work. > > File/New is usual way to start project and I used it. > > > > Another problem: > > I titled interface and all pages created without wizard show the correct > title "Moj modul". > > Pages created with wizard don't do that. I view only text "Learning Object > Title". > > This applies for preview and publish mode. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 AM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem > lies in how the project was created. > > > > At present in Xerte you can do > > > > *File / New* > > > > To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type > that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is > given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common" > folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a > flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits > project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models > fail to work correctly. > > > > If instead you create a project by doing > > > > *Pages / Create New Pages Project* > > > > Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common > folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called > pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml > > > > The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the > page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page > models should work. > > > > This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of > reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely > to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided > in future. > > > > Hope this solves your problem. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside > project folder and files. > > I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder > T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. > > Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? > > I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. > > For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all > data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) > > Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to > project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside > it. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should > contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used > by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot > find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. > > > > If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then > there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to > preview. > > > > It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files > in it. > > > > If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your > Xerte installation folder they are found typically in > > > > C:\xerte\pages\common > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in > common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result > in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there > is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine > is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to > the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the > attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best > use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we > will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to > localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > > > > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up > in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files > folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user > interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed > files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I > found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it > doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the > languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > > > > > > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial > resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of > Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do > not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I > start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you > are using the desktop Xerte program. > > > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the > information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there > might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you > current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change > any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing > it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Mon Oct 8 08:10:43 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?UTF-8?Q?Branislav_=C5=A0mitek?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:10:43 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <007101cda2c3$fa09c880$ee1d5980$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <011801cda524$07de7e80$179b7b80$@fov.uni-mb.si> On double clik i get an error window: After several cliks on No I get wizard window but I can't see mentioned attribute. Pages folder has two files: bullets.xml and bullets.xwd. Which files has to has "Learning Object Title" variable in it. I can't find it. I also don't see "Advance Display" option. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 10:22 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In a pages project the Learning Object has its own wizard. If you double click the Learning Object icon in the Xerte editor, the Learning Object wizard form will open. The first attribute in the Learning Object wizard is Learning Object Title which by default is set in the English Language version to "Learning Object Title" but you can change it in the form. The model files for each page have a line in their "getPageID" script rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); This line captures the Learning Object title entry entered into the wizard and ensures it is displayed when the page is opened. If you are also creating your own pages in the project that are not based on existing page types then you would need to include the above line of code to ensure that the learning object title you entered into the learning object wizard is displayed when your own pages load. The Learning Object wizard in a Pages project also has a child form of "Advance Display" which will allow you to change some of the default display settings such as the position of buttons, the colours used and the size of some of the sections of the layout, as well as to add a background image should you so choose. I hope this helps to resolve your issue. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek wrote: Your suggestion was correct medicine for my problems. Now I can view the results of my work. File/New is usual way to start project and I used it. Another problem: I titled interface and all pages created without wizard show the correct title "Moj modul". Pages created with wizard don't do that. I view only text "Learning Object Title". This applies for preview and publish mode. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem lies in how the project was created. At present in Xerte you can do File / New To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common" folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models fail to work correctly. If instead you create a project by doing Pages / Create New Pages Project Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page models should work. This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided in future. Hope this solves your problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek wrote: I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside project folder and files. I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to preview. It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files in it. If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your Xerte installation folder they are found typically in C:\xerte\pages\common Hope this helps Johnathan On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek wrote: We solved problem with starting simple RLO. Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in common. I can use text and image icon. When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result in preview window. I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there is no result in preview window. I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. Any suggestions? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Xerte ? Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the attributes in the XML file. To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! Tom Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: 32 bit, English. I used Publish and Package variant. Installation folder has Languages files. Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file engine_en-GB.xml. Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. Which way you suggest? 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning object. I tried: 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) Package from the wizard Publish from the Xerte editor All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files folder. Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Windows 7. Can I ask what OS you are using? Regards, Tom Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: Thank you for your response. Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same solution. I found missing file in directory you mentioned. I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user interface buttons. It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed files for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our characters in top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. Thank you! I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. In the meantime, you can check for yourself: In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it doesn't contain the correct files. 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work correctly. 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. Tom Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in browser. Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. There is no content in modules, empty page. Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial resources for that. The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible learning materials. Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and would like to use it. I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of Xerte (desktop or Online) do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do not have the server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I start with work. I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their electronic learning modules. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you are using the desktop Xerte program. What version of Xerte are you using? What steps did you take to create your project? e.g. "file / new" or "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project" Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. Try this test. Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you current project that is not displaying. Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change any of the default data that the pages start with. Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just standard Xerte stuff. Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing it after adding each element of data. You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is compromising your xml data. Hope this helps. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek wrote: No. I have the same problem running it localy. Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start Does it work when you run it locally? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Branislav ?mitek Sent: 27 September 2012 12:41 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Learning object does not start I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml Loading." What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in Moodle. 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Name: image006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 87058 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Oct 8 12:35:36 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:35:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start In-Reply-To: <011801cda524$07de7e80$179b7b80$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <008e01cd9ca4$f8f2be40$ead83ac0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3E256713@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <5064ab2d.630eb40a.2418.152fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <50688BD3.1050503@tor.nl> <002b01cd9f90$e70899e0$b519cda0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50693D60.8050007@tor.nl> <005301cd9fa4$5dfff1c0$19ffd540$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506945CB.4010001@tor.nl> <007c01cd9fa7$8e4e66b0$aaeb3410$@fov.uni-mb.si> <50694D19.1050601@tor.nl> <009501cd9fae$84d8a990$8e89fcb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <506957F5.2020203@tor.nl> <010201cda15c$e599af90$b0cd0eb0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <00ed01cda1fa$ea4c0940$bee41bc0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <007101cda2c3$fa09c880$ee1d5980$@fov.uni-mb.si> <011801cda524$07de7e80$179b7b80$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: Hello Branislav, If you look at your project folder it should contain pages.xwd, pages.rlo, pages.xml Looking at the first image you attached, the one with the zinc error message I can see that your project looks like it has been created by doing "pages / create new page project" because the project includes the script "capture display values" directly under the learning object icon. Also the learning object icon has the little circle on it that indicates that the icon has an associated wizard form. However I also notice that at the top of your image the project .rlo file name is listed as Test.rlo When you create a project using "pages / create new page project" you are not given the opportunity to specify a name for the .rlo file. You select which folder you wish to create your project in and then Xerte automatically creates the files pages.xwd, pages.rlo and pages.xml. So I don't know how you have ended up with a .rlo file called test.rlo unless you have renamed the original pages.rlo. This should not cause a problem unless you rename either pages.xml or pages.xwd. If you select the learning object you will see it has an attribute "templateData" which by default points to FileLocation + 'pages.xml' As long as the xml and xwd files have the same name and the templateData attribute refers correctly to the name of the xml file everything should work OK. To access the advanced layout settings and the name attribute for the learning object you need to double click on the learning object icon, *not*on one of the pages in the project. Your second image confirms that you have opened the wizard for the orientation page. Try instead clicking on the top most icon in your project tree called "learning object". I am sorry I don't know enough about zinc to comment on the error you are getting. You should not be getting it. Tom or Julian may be better able to advise on that particular issue. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 October 2012 08:10, Branislav ?mitek wrote: > On double clik i get an error window: > > > > > > After several cliks on No I get wizard window but I can't see mentioned > attribute. > > > > > > Pages folder has two files: > > bullets.xml and bullets.xwd. > > Which files has to has "Learning Object Title" variable in it. > > I can't find it. I also don't see "Advance Display" option. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 10:22 PM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > In a pages project the Learning Object has its own wizard. > > > > If you double click the Learning Object icon in the Xerte editor, the > Learning Object wizard form will open. > > > > The first attribute in the Learning Object wizard is Learning Object Title > which by default is set in the English Language version to "Learning Object > Title" but you can change it in the form. > > > > The model files for each page have a line in their "getPageID" script > > > > rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > > > > This line captures the Learning Object title entry entered into the wizard > and ensures it is displayed when the page is opened. > > > > If you are also creating your own pages in the project that are not based > on existing page types then you would need to include the above line of > code to ensure that the learning object title you entered into the learning > object wizard is displayed when your own pages load. > > > > The Learning Object wizard in a Pages project also has a child form of > "Advance Display" which will allow you to change some of the default > display settings such as the position of buttons, the colours used and the > size of some of the sections of the layout, as well as to add a background > image should you so choose. > > > > I hope this helps to resolve your issue. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > Your suggestion was correct medicine for my problems. > > Now I can view the results of my work. > > File/New is usual way to start project and I used it. > > > > Another problem: > > I titled interface and all pages created without wizard show the correct > title "Moj modul". > > Pages created with wizard don't do that. I view only text "Learning Object > Title". > > This applies for preview and publish mode. > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem > lies in how the project was created. > > > > At present in Xerte you can do > > > > *File / New* > > > > To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type > that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is > given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common" > folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a > flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits > project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models > fail to work correctly. > > > > If instead you create a project by doing > > > > *Pages / Create New Pages Project* > > > > Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common > folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called > pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml > > > > The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the > page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page > models should work. > > > > This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of > reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely > to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided > in future. > > > > Hope this solves your problem. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside > project folder and files. > > I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder > T:\Izobra?evanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test. > > Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else? > > I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New. > > For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all > data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?) > > Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to > project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside > it. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should > contain a lot of resource files such as .swf and .png files that are used > by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot > find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview. > > > > If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then > there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to > preview. > > > > It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files > in it. > > > > If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your > Xerte installation folder they are found typically in > > > > C:\xerte\pages\common > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav ?mitek > wrote: > > We solved problem with starting simple RLO. > > Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in > common. > > I can use text and image icon. > > When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result > in preview window. > > I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there > is no result in preview window. > > I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems. > > Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet? > > I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Are there any files in \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program > Files\Xerte ? > > Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine > is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to > the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the > attributes in the XML file. > > To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best > use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we > will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to > localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that! > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > 32 bit, English. > > I used Publish and Package variant. > > Installation folder has Languages files. > > Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't file > engine_en-GB.xml. > > Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte? > > Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language. > > Which way you suggest? > > > > > > 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian? > > I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and > installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC. > > The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning > object. > I tried: > > 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project) > Package from the wizard > Publish from the Xerte editor > > All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me. > > Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object? > > Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the > setup and choose 'Run as administrator'? > > I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up > in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files > folder. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Can I ask what OS you are using? > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem. > > During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same > solution. > > I found missing file in directory you mentioned. > > I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user > interface buttons. > > It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed > files > > for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our > characters in > > top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle. > > Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I > found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p. > > In the meantime, you can check for yourself: > > In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it > doesn't contain the correct files. > > 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte > insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files > (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the > languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work > correctly. > > 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well. > > This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p. > > Tom > > Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav ?mitek schreef: > > I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte. > > For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in > browser. > > > > > > > > Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look? > > > Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane ?mitek schreef: > > I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program. > > > > I tried all three suggested methods to create three test modules. > > Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names. > > There is no content in modules, empty page. > > Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file > > the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question. > > I can record screen that you will see my way of the work. > > > > So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials. > > I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students. > > I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial > resources for that. > > The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible > learning materials. > > Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and > would like to use it. > > I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of > Xerte (desktop or Online) > > do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do > not have the > > server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I > start with work. > > I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their > electronic learning modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you > are using the desktop Xerte program. > > > > What version of Xerte are you using? > > > > What steps did you take to create your project? > > e.g. "file / new" > > or > > "templates / page templates" > > or > > "pages / create new pages project" > > > > Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"? > > > > The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using > either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project". > > > > Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the > information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your > information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ? > > > > One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there > might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a > problem for Xerte by breaking the xml. > > > > Try this test. > > Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you > current project that is not displaying. > > Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change > any of the default data that the pages start with. > > Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly? > > > > If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just > standard Xerte stuff. > > > > Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing > it after adding each element of data. > > You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the > problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is > compromising your xml data. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane ?mitek > wrote: > > No. I have the same problem running it localy. > > Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start > > > > Does it work when you run it locally? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Branislav ?mitek > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start > > > > I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte. > > I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml > Loading." > > What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in > Moodle. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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It doesn't seem to be linked with the browser since it > is the same whether I use Firefox, explorer or chrome. > > What can I do to try to solve the problem ? > > Regards, > > C?line Restrepo > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From simmsies at ntlworld.com Thu Oct 11 13:14:51 2012 From: simmsies at ntlworld.com (SIMMS MAGGY) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:14:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] apache won't start Message-ID: Hello folks. I'm not from a computer science background so please be patient - I have followed the install instructions for Xerte toolkits (on windows 7). Everything seems to be present as it should be but apache will not start - just kind of flickers then remains unchanged. It seems to be saying it is loading but nothing happens. Mysql starts OK. Can anyone explain how I can fix this? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Oct 11 14:34:29 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:34:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: apache won't start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437BDA61-473C-47A1-BEF4-9D3CBBA128F4@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Do you have Skype running by any chance? If so exit Skype completely and try again? Once Apache has started you should be able to restart Skype again if required. HTH Ron Sent from my iPhone On 11 Oct 2012, at 13:14, SIMMS MAGGY wrote: > Hello folks. > I'm not from a computer science background so please be patient - I have followed the install instructions for Xerte toolkits (on windows 7). Everything seems to be present as it should be but apache will not start - just kind of flickers then remains unchanged. It seems to be saying it is loading but nothing happens. > Mysql starts OK. > > Can anyone explain how I can fix this? > > Thanks > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I'm not yet a fully fledged user or Xerte developer, but I've been playing around with models in the Standalone version, and I'm quite keen to move to trying out creating a template/model in Xenith. Fay mentioned yesterday that pre-release versions may be available for those interested (or just the model and wizard files would be useful). I'd be really grateful if it's possible to have any pre-release Xenith to play with. Best wishes Liz Cowell Learning and Skills Librarian Learning & Information Services University of Wolverhampton Tel: 01902 322385 Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk -- Scanned by iCritical. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Very informative and inspiring for a newbie like me, and so many features I wasn't as yet aware of. I'm not yet a fully fledged user or Xerte developer, but I've been playing around with models in the Standalone version, and I'm quite keen to move to trying out creating a template/model in Xenith. Fay mentioned yesterday that pre-release versions may be available for those interested (or just the model and wizard files would be useful). I'd be really grateful if it's possible to have any pre-release Xenith to play with. Best wishes Liz Cowell Learning and Skills Librarian Learning & Information Services University of Wolverhampton Tel: 01902 322385 Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk -- Scanned by iCritical. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was good to meet you yesterday and I'd be interested to see any models you come up with once you have the code. Fay From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Cowell, Elizabeth Sent: 12 October 2012 13:00 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] Conference and Xenith Hello, Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your conference. Very informative and inspiring for a newbie like me, and so many features I wasn't as yet aware of. I'm not yet a fully fledged user or Xerte developer, but I've been playing around with models in the Standalone version, and I'm quite keen to move to trying out creating a template/model in Xenith. Fay mentioned yesterday that pre-release versions may be available for those interested (or just the model and wizard files would be useful). I'd be really grateful if it's possible to have any pre-release Xenith to play with. 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Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Cowell, Elizabeth Sent: 12 October 2012 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Conference and Xenith Thank you Fay, That's great, and likewise. (It'll probably take me a while :) ) Liz Cowell Learning and Skills Librarian Learning & Information Services University of Wolverhampton Tel: 01902 322385 Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 12 October 2012 13:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Conference and Xenith Hi Liz I am just making a few changes and then I should be able to send out a link to the code later today. It was good to meet you yesterday and I'd be interested to see any models you come up with once you have the code. Fay From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Cowell, Elizabeth Sent: 12 October 2012 13:00 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] Conference and Xenith Hello, Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your conference. Very informative and inspiring for a newbie like me, and so many features I wasn't as yet aware of. I'm not yet a fully fledged user or Xerte developer, but I've been playing around with models in the Standalone version, and I'm quite keen to move to trying out creating a template/model in Xenith. Fay mentioned yesterday that pre-release versions may be available for those interested (or just the model and wizard files would be useful). I'd be really grateful if it's possible to have any pre-release Xenith to play with. Best wishes Liz Cowell Learning and Skills Librarian Learning & Information Services University of Wolverhampton Tel: 01902 322385 Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk -- Scanned by iCritical. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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It isn't finished and I know there's a fair amount of work still to do (30+ more page types to be developed, more testing on various mobile devices etc.) but we are likely to release a version of it that you can add to your 1.8 installations of Toolkits in the next few weeks so you can try it with your own projects. Thanks to everyone who has given me feedback over the last couple of days at the conference, I've fixed some of the bugs you let me know about but there's still a list of many more I've yet to sort out! Any more feedback's welcome. Thanks Fay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Oct 12 15:45:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:45:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Fwd: xerte toolkits - embed content In-Reply-To: <50782C41.1060906@unil.ch> References: <47132F5F-55CE-4499-8421-E1147C96C3AE@cardiff.ac.uk> <538DA4DE-6CBB-42E7-9997-9952C4C364EB@cardiff.ac.uk> <50759171.3090000@unil.ch> <50782819.8050806@unil.ch> <50782B9C.3030401@unil.ch> <50782C41.1060906@unil.ch> Message-ID: I think if we change the code for the div to have a percentage height and width that will work? Thoughts? > I don't think the div resizes on percent. > > Could you share a URL? > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line > wrote: >> >> It is the same if I put full screen or fill window. >> The size of the embed content doesn't change either when I resize manually >> the window. >> >> >>> play is normally full screen? >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> it is the same whether in preview or play. >>>> >>>>> Only in preview? >>>>> >>>>> What about play? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to use the Embed Content activity in Xerte Toolkit but I >>>>>> am >>>>>> having some problems with the display. The embedded content is not well >>>>>> positionned in the xerte frame and it hides half of the button (cf >>>>>> image >>>>>> in >>>>>> attached document). It doesn't seem to be linked with the browser since >>>>>> it >>>>>> is the same whether I use Firefox, explorer or chrome. >>>>>> >>>>>> What can I do to try to solve the problem ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> C?line Restrepo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>>>> do >>>>>> not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any >>>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>> email >>>>>> do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte mailing list >>>>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>>>> do >>>>>> not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>> any >>>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>> email >>>>>> do >>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment >>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ____________________ >>>> >>>> C?line Restrepo Zea >>>> Ing?nieure p?dagogique >>>> >>>> Centre de langues UNIL >>>> Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 >>>> CH-1015 Lausanne >>>> T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 >>>> http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch >>>> >>>> Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset >>>> >> >> -- >> ____________________ >> >> C?line Restrepo Zea >> Ing?nieure p?dagogique >> >> Centre de langues UNIL >> Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 >> CH-1015 Lausanne >> T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 >> http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch >> >> Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset >> -- ____________________ C?line Restrepo Zea Ing?nieure p?dagogique Centre de langues UNIL Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 CH-1015 Lausanne T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Oct 12 16:31:12 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:31:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Fwd: xerte toolkits - embed content In-Reply-To: References: <47132F5F-55CE-4499-8421-E1147C96C3AE@cardiff.ac.uk> <538DA4DE-6CBB-42E7-9997-9952C4C364EB@cardiff.ac.uk> <50759171.3090000@unil.ch> <50782819.8050806@unil.ch> <50782B9C.3030401@unil.ch> <50782C41.1060906@unil.ch> Message-ID: <010d01cda88e$9d2ce540$d786afc0$@co.uk> I think some of this was fixed by Fay ages ago - it sounds like an old version is in use? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 12 October 2012 15:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Fwd: xerte toolkits - embed content I think if we change the code for the div to have a percentage height and width that will work? Thoughts? > I don't think the div resizes on percent. > > Could you share a URL? > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line > wrote: >> >> It is the same if I put full screen or fill window. >> The size of the embed content doesn't change either when I resize >> manually the window. >> >> >>> play is normally full screen? >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> it is the same whether in preview or play. >>>> >>>>> Only in preview? >>>>> >>>>> What about play? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Restrepo Zea C?line >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to use the Embed Content activity in Xerte Toolkit >>>>>> but I am having some problems with the display. The embedded >>>>>> content is not well positionned in the xerte frame and it hides >>>>>> half of the button (cf image in attached document). It doesn't >>>>>> seem to be linked with the browser since it is the same whether I >>>>>> use Firefox, explorer or chrome. >>>>>> >>>>>> What can I do to try to solve the problem ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> C?line Restrepo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>>>> do >>>>>> not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message >>>>>> or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >>>>>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>>>> University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>> your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte mailing list >>>>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>>> received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>>>> do >>>>>> not >>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message >>>>>> or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the >>>>>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the >>>>>> University of Nottingham. >>>>>> >>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >>>>>> your computer >>>>>> system: >>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted >>>>>> by UK legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ____________________ >>>> >>>> C?line Restrepo Zea >>>> Ing?nieure p?dagogique >>>> >>>> Centre de langues UNIL >>>> Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 >>>> CH-1015 Lausanne >>>> T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 >>>> http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch >>>> >>>> Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset >>>> >> >> -- >> ____________________ >> >> C?line Restrepo Zea >> Ing?nieure p?dagogique >> >> Centre de langues UNIL >> Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 >> CH-1015 Lausanne >> T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 >> http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch >> >> Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset >> -- ____________________ C?line Restrepo Zea Ing?nieure p?dagogique Centre de langues UNIL Site de l' EPFL | CE 2 544 | Case postale 117 CH-1015 Lausanne T?l: ++41 21 693 22 68 http://www.unil.ch/cdl | http://langues.epfl.ch Membre du RISET | http://www.unil.ch/riset _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Oct 13 16:24:32 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:24:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Attempting to contact Andy Stenhouse Message-ID: I am attempting to contact Andy Stenhouse who attended the second day of the recent Xerte AGM He asked me to forward some information to him but the email address I have for him has bounced. 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For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Oct 17 16:21:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do - what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers, Suhaila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bell_beauty12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 17 16:32:27 2012 From: bell_beauty12 at hotmail.com (Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:32:27 +1200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers,Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do ? what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers, Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do - what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation DDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers,SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationYes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do ? what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation DDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers, Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do - what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Thank you so much.Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation > I can't really say what do I want to do specifically nowThen we can?t tell you what language to write it in. But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationDDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers,SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationYes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do ? what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Oct 17 16:52:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation In-Reply-To: References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You'll be better off defining the problem you want to solve, then figuring out how to solve it. Learning a new language is hard without a goal, because you really need to know what you're trying to accomplish. If you learn those you'll be able to pick up any language in the future. What do you program in right now? Are you interested in server side stuff, or front end stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Are those the only languages have been written in Xerte so far? I'd like to know all the languages as it'd be easier for decision making in the e-learning development tools. Thank you so much. Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation > I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now Then we can't tell you what language to write it in. But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation DDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers, Suhaila ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do - what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From bell_beauty12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 17 17:10:28 2012 From: bell_beauty12 at hotmail.com (Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:10:28 +1200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I am in the stage of researching, trying to compare and contrast between Xerte and other e-learning development toolsand I asked the languages so that I'd know which languages I've already learnt and which ones that I haven't and these would help my decision making. For example I'm already familiar with PHP and javascript but I haven't learnt actionscript and jquery. Knowing these fact would ease my decision in developing project. I just need to know please. If it's too much then please at least mention the major ones that are built in Xerte. Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation You?ll be better off defining the problem you want to solve, then figuring out how to solve it. Learning a new language is hard without a goal, because you really need to know what you?re trying to accomplish. If you learn those you?ll be able to pick up any language in the future. What do you program in right now? Are you interested in server side stuff, or front end stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Are those the only languages have been written in Xerte so far? I'd like to know all the languages as it'd be easier for decision making in the e-learning development tools. Thank you so much.SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation> I can't really say what do I want to do specifically nowThen we can?t tell you what language to write it in. But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationDDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers,SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationYes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do ? what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Oct 17 17:32:51 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:32:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk> Julian has already answered your question re languages: " But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff" But are you just looking to develop e-learning content or to extend the functionality already available? You can develop plenty of different e-learning content with Xerte and Xerte Online Toolkits without any scripting at all by using the templates provided. Look at the info and examples linked from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte Download either Xerte or Xerte Online Toolkits and try them out Look at the recordings and presentations from the AGM last week http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/agm.htm Then come back and ask more specific questions if you need to. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 17:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation I am in the stage of researching, trying to compare and contrast between Xerte and other e-learning development tools and I asked the languages so that I'd know which languages I've already learnt and which ones that I haven't and these would help my decision making. For example I'm already familiar with PHP and javascript but I haven't learnt actionscript and jquery. Knowing these fact would ease my decision in developing project. I just need to know please. If it's too much then please at least mention the major ones that are built in Xerte. Suhaila _____ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation You'll be better off defining the problem you want to solve, then figuring out how to solve it. Learning a new language is hard without a goal, because you really need to know what you're trying to accomplish. If you learn those you'll be able to pick up any language in the future. What do you program in right now? Are you interested in server side stuff, or front end stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Are those the only languages have been written in Xerte so far? I'd like to know all the languages as it'd be easier for decision making in the e-learning development tools. Thank you so much. Suhaila _____ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation > I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now Then we can't tell you what language to write it in. But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila _____ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation DDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers, Suhaila _____ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Yes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do - what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Suhaila From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:32:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Julian has already answered your question re languages: " But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff" But are you just looking to develop e-learning content or to extend the functionality already available? You can develop plenty of different e-learning content with Xerte and Xerte Online Toolkits without any scripting at all by using the templates provided. Look at the info and examples linked from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerteDownload either Xerte or Xerte Online Toolkits and try them outLook at the recordings and presentations from the AGM last week http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/agm.htm Then come back and ask more specific questions if you need to. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 17:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation I am in the stage of researching, trying to compare and contrast between Xerte and other e-learning development toolsand I asked the languages so that I'd know which languages I've already learnt and which ones that I haven't and these would help my decision making. For example I'm already familiar with PHP and javascript but I haven't learnt actionscript and jquery. Knowing these fact would ease my decision in developing project. I just need to know please. If it's too much then please at least mention the major ones that are built in Xerte. Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationYou?ll be better off defining the problem you want to solve, then figuring out how to solve it. Learning a new language is hard without a goal, because you really need to know what you?re trying to accomplish. If you learn those you?ll be able to pick up any language in the future. What do you program in right now? Are you interested in server side stuff, or front end stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Are those the only languages have been written in Xerte so far? I'd like to know all the languages as it'd be easier for decision making in the e-learning development tools. Thank you so much.SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation> I can't really say what do I want to do specifically nowThen we can?t tell you what language to write it in. But the languages used are PHP, javascript and actionscript mostly, and xerte itself, jquery in the new stuff, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh I see. I can't really say what do I want to do specifically now because I'm researching for development tools for e-learning as part of my dissertation project. Is there some kind of manual or tutorial that specifically tells which part of xerte were written in which language? Suhaila From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationDDifferent parts of it are written in different languages, so it depends on what you want to do. So, what do you want to do? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 16:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animation Oh that's brilliant but what do you mean by the language depends on what you want to do? Does Xerte support various scripting languages? I thought that in case Xerte doesn't have some toolkit or function that I want then maybe I could write some scripts so that's why I asked which language does Xerte support. Cheers,SuhailaFrom: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:21:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query on Flash animationYes, it can do those things. The language depends on what you want to do ? what did you have in mind? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin Sent: 17 October 2012 15:13 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query on Flash animation Hello. I've gone through the Toolkits Page Types and under Media - Flash Animation, it stated that "Flash movies can bring interactivity and animation to your learning objects, and allow them to include custom content not possible with toolkits natively." The second part isn't clear to me probably because I'm not a native english speaker. I understand that Xerte is capable in importing flash movie but I need to know if it can also include flash animation object which user can interact with. For example; From flash, I designed a banner flying effect if a user clicks a particular button on Xerte or I designed a button from flash and import this to xerte so that when user clicks that button it should have some rollover effect or something like that. Can Xerte do those? And what's the script / programming language to use if I want to extend Xerte toolkits? Cheers,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Thu Oct 18 11:42:06 2012 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:42:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Import has failed In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk> Message-ID: Trying to import zip XOT 1.7 project into XOT 1.8 Succeeds importing into 1.7 but get "File transfer has failed" message - any thoughts? Martin Lynch FHEA Learning Systems Manager University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Thu Oct 18 12:08:31 2012 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:08:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] trying to show image in instruction pane In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk> Message-ID: One of our users is trying to place an image in a page; Its one of the templates with Page title Instruction Button Label Feedback Theyre trying to put into the Instruction pane The image renders fine in a browser locally but not in the XOT or when displayed in Blackboard - any ideas? 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Select the footballers2.jpg image from the list and a file path will appear in the box above it. Use this path as the src instead of just "media/footballers2.jpg". From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 18 October 2012 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] trying to show image in instruction pane One of our users is trying to place an image in a page; Its one of the templates with Page title Instruction Button Label Feedback Theyre trying to put into the Instruction pane The image renders fine in a browser locally but not in the XOT or when displayed in Blackboard - any ideas? Martin Lynch FHEA Learning Systems Manager University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Thu Oct 18 13:51:53 2012 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:51:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: trying to show image in instruction pane In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk> Message-ID: Fixed - brilliant - thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 18 October 2012 12:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: trying to show image in instruction pane You need the correct file path. In XOT select the project and click the properties button. On the Media & Quota tab you will see a list of all the media you've uploaded to the project. Select the footballers2.jpg image from the list and a file path will appear in the box above it. Use this path as the src instead of just "media/footballers2.jpg". From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 18 October 2012 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] trying to show image in instruction pane One of our users is trying to place an image in a page; Its one of the templates with Page title Instruction Button Label Feedback Theyre trying to put into the Instruction pane The image renders fine in a browser locally but not in the XOT or when displayed in Blackboard - any ideas? Martin Lynch FHEA Learning Systems Manager University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Oct 19 09:30:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:30:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Fri Oct 19 12:46:48 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:46:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'd use Xenith - create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different 'learning design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A 'Practicals' template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I'll do some demos :) A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Not free or even cheap for the desktop end but might be worth looking at http://www.displaynote.com/ You can try it for free. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 19 October 2012 12:47 To: Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas I'd use Xenith - create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different 'learning design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A 'Practicals' template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I'll do some demos J A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Many thanks,Suhaila Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:48:59 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte The Xerte Standalone version is for PC only. The resulting Lerning Objects are deployed on the web and can be viewed by any flash capable device. Xerte Online Toolkits offers authoring in a web based environment, and allows also authoring on any flash capable device. Op 21-10-2012 12:20, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: Hello. Is Xerte available for PC only? What about MAC or Linux or others? Cheers, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sun Oct 21 15:40:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:40:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl> Message-ID: <50840950.3040102@tor.nl> Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: > I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices > that support flash player or flash storage device? > > Many thanks, > Suhaila > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:48:59 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte > > The Xerte Standalone version is for PC only. The resulting Lerning > Objects are deployed on the web and can be viewed by any flash capable > device. > > Xerte Online Toolkits offers authoring in a web based environment, and > allows also authoring on any flash capable device. > > > > Op 21-10-2012 12:20, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: > > Hello. > > Is Xerte available for PC only? What about MAC or Linux or others? > > Cheers, > */Suhaila/* > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and > any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. 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Tom Op 18-10-2012 12:42, Lynch M (LCSS) schreef: > > Trying to import zip XOT 1.7 project into XOT 1.8 > > Succeeds importing into 1.7 but get "File transfer has failed" message > -- any thoughts? > > Martin Lynch FHEA > > Learning Systems Manager > > University of Glamorgan > > 01443 483764 > > mlynch at glam.ac.uk > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reijnders Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:40:16 To: Xerte discussion list Reply-To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Oct 23 14:48:03 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:48:03 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: <561404906-1350995037-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1704802596-@b27.c15.bise6.blackberry> References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk> , , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl> <50840950.3040102@tor.nl> <561404906-1350995037-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1704802596-@b27.c15.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: No not yet. "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" schreef: >Hi Tom. > >Is there a html5 version of xot to download from enywhere? > >Svn maybe? > >Jos?. > > >Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Reijnders >Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:40:16 >To: Xerte discussion list >Reply-To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte > >_______________________________________________ >Xerte mailing list >Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >message or in any attachment. 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Is there a "roadmap doc" to know how the XOT development is scheduled? Thanks in advance. Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reijnders Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:48:03 To: ; Xerte discussion list Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte No not yet. "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" schreef: >Hi Tom. > >Is there a html5 version of xot to download from enywhere? > >Svn maybe? > >Jos?. > > >Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Reijnders >Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:40:16 >To: Xerte discussion list >Reply-To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte > >_______________________________________________ >Xerte mailing list >Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this >message or in any attachment. 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We are working with a small team to create a good (multi language) structure and add the basic material. A few of you are already involved with the development. Thx for that! My question for now. The community website is a multi language site. We now have the English, Dutch and Norwegian language. If you like to add your own language, that's possible when you also want to be responsible (an administrator) for that part of the website. Please let me know if you are interested to be an administrator for a country or to get involved in developing the website. We keep you informed about the progress on this list. Bye, Inge 12Change Chopinlaan 27 5242 HM Rosmalen T 073-5226195 F 073-5226196 E i.donkervoort at 12change.eu I www.12change.eu T twitter L linkedIn Op 23-10-2012 15:48, Tom Reijnders schreef: > No not yet. > > "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" schreef: > > Hi Tom. > > Is there a html5 version of xot to download from enywhere? > > Svn maybe? > > Jos?. > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Reijnders > Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:40:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you hav > e > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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However, there are 70+ pages types and not all of these will initially be available in the html5 version. Around half of these have a html equivalent so far with others being worked on. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda Sent: 23 October 2012 21:57 To: Xerte Discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Got it. What does it mean "near future" ? Is there a "roadmap doc" to know how the XOT development is scheduled? Thanks in advance. Jos?. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. ________________________________ From: Tom Reijnders > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:48:03 +0200 To: >; Xerte discussion list> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte No not yet. "Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda" > schreef: Hi Tom. Is there a html5 version of xot to download from enywhere? Svn maybe? Jos?. 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Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi > > > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some > reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here > is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > > > any ideas? > > > > Thanks. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Thnx,Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Oct 25 22:33:17 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:33:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Panic problem on XOT Export In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, Message-ID: <5089B01D.1010408@tor.nl> See the dev list... I didn't see this, because I don't have apache rewriting enabled, and you apparently do use that. This comes from the file website_code\php\url_library.php Replace line 84: return $string . "_rich_" . $template_number; With return $string . "_" . $template_number; Op 25-10-2012 21:49, Dave Burnett schreef: > Any reason I would not have the SCORM options for an export? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. 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"_" . $template_number; Op 25-10-2012 21:49, Dave Burnett schreef: Any reason I would not have the SCORM options for an export? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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As a workaround, try /scorm_rich_116 Or /website_code/php/scorm/export.php?data=rich&scorm=true&template_id=116 Tom Op 25-10-2012 23:47, Dave Burnett schreef: > > Thanks Tom and Pat. > > He's going to try to get in touch with the hosting outfit. > If it's a permissions issue, not much we can do from here. > > I'll let you know... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:33:17 +0200 > From: reijnders at tor.nl > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Panic problem on XOT Export > > See the dev list... > > I didn't see this, because I don't have apache rewriting enabled, and > you apparently do use that. > > This comes from the file website_code\php\url_library.php > > Replace line 84: > > return $string . "_rich_" . $template_number; > > With > > return $string . "_" . $template_number; > > > Op 25-10-2012 21:49, Dave Burnett schreef: > > Any reason I would not have the SCORM options for an export? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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"_rich_" . $template_number; > > With > > return $string . "_" . $template_number; > > > Op 25-10-2012 21:49, Dave Burnett schreef: > Any reason I would not have the SCORM options for an export? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 14:01:24 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:01:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Can preview after moving to linux server Message-ID: I moved my xerte online install to a new linux server from windows finally. Xerte objects are playing fine but when I try to edit an object and press preview I get the following error in the logs: Undefined index: linkID in /var/www/moodle/xerte/modules/xerte/preview.php The player pops up but I don't see any of the new pages Dan From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Oct 26 14:12:13 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:12:13 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can preview after moving to linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <508A8C2D.4060505@tor.nl> Make sure that the site URL in Site settings is correct (using management.php) Op 26-10-2012 15:01, Dan Attwood schreef: > I moved my xerte online install to a new linux server from windows > finally. Xerte objects are playing fine but when I try to edit an > object and press preview I get the following error in the logs: > > Undefined index: linkID in /var/www/moodle/xerte/modules/xerte/preview.php > > The player pops up but I don't see any of the new pages > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Oct 26 14:12:37 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:12:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can preview after moving to linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: check the archives - think this was an old bug? On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Dan Attwood wrote: > I moved my xerte online install to a new linux server from windows > finally. Xerte objects are playing fine but when I try to edit an > object and press preview I get the following error in the logs: > > Undefined index: linkID in /var/www/moodle/xerte/modules/xerte/preview.php > > The player pops up but I don't see any of the new pages > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Oct 26 16:26:46 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:26:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 > desktop? > > Thnx, > Dave > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you > have entered into the form for the page. > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an > optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your > learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project > once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page > ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" > > Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. > > Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an > optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute > to the value you have used in your link. > > That should sort it. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some > reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here > is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > any ideas? > > Thanks. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can't get the link to work - http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From jaxxx at libero.it Sat Oct 27 02:32:31 2012 From: jaxxx at libero.it (jaxxx at libero.it) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:32:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Xerte] R: RE: EU-MeS scorm: mission terminated Message-ID: <33161494.6720411351301551472.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> ---Messaggio originale---- Da: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Data: 26/10/2012 19.30 A: "jaxxx at libero.it", "Xerte discussion list" Ogg: RE: [Xerte] EU-MeS scorm: mission terminated Are the learning objects visible publicly? Unfortunately they are not. The moodle platform also is not visible to unregistered users:(Now the platform is on the C? Foscari servers http://www.unive.it/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=95695 http://eu-mes.eu/ Sorry by now I never explained the project EU-MeS project::it started 2 years ago, I work for a social promotion association called Entropica sub-contractor for the technical part of the project. We built with Moodle a biennial specialization course for organised and held by the following universities: SOAS London,. Paris 8, Montpellier 3 C? Foscari Venice, Universitat Barcelona.The full course is made by 11 modules, each partner university did 2 modules and one (the "women and gender in the euro mediterranean context" module) held collectively by all partners.Each module was composed by 10 or 11 units according to a weekly timing. The most complexes units had video or audio contents in forms of video conferences or audio files, the others were a mere sequence of pdfs with a simple levels of interaction with students (submitting text files). At the end of the first two years and end of the project (for us) we had to take out the contents from the platform and put them back together in a scorm package without any involvement of the teachers, for this the scorm operation was a little bit suffering of neglect. Basically the scorm courses are only linear sequences of materials ordered as the weekly modules on the platform, anyway it was a very interesting work, for me a sort of learning by doing experience, also thanks to the help of this mailing list.In attachment the logo of the project (that I also realised).Giacomo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Euro-Meditlogo_banner.png Type: image/png Size: 36877 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Oct 27 10:38:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:38:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? > Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes > sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting > text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online > Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other > page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with > video and text. > > > > Best > > > > Andy > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 October 2012 16:27 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope > that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the > options for creating a the different project types are listed there. > However currently... > > > > If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project > then do > > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. > > > > Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. > > > > If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to > the page models and also the editing environment then do > > > > Pages / Create New Page Project > > > > Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and > then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type > folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. > > > > As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not > sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as > simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 > desktop? > > > > Thnx, > > Dave > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you > have entered into the form for the page. > > > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an > optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your > learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project > once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page > ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" > > > > Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. > > > > Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an > optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute > to the value you have used in your link. > > > > That should sort it. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some > reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here > is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > any ideas? > > Thanks. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 09:28:28 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:28:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: R: RE: EU-MeS scorm: mission terminated In-Reply-To: <33161494.6720411351301551472.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <33161494.6720411351301551472.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: Ok, thanks for the explanation Giacomo. If you come across other Xerte objects in your work please let me know about them because some of the teachers on the lists are always keen to see what people do with Xerte. Alistair McNaught From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of jaxxx at libero.it Sent: 27 October 2012 02:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] R: RE: EU-MeS scorm: mission terminated ---Messaggio originale---- Da: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Data: 26/10/2012 19.30 A: "jaxxx at libero.it">, "Xerte discussion list"> Ogg: RE: [Xerte] EU-MeS scorm: mission terminated Are the learning objects visible publicly? Unfortunately they are not. The moodle platform also is not visible to unregistered users :( Now the platform is on the C? Foscari servers http://www.unive.it/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=95695 http://eu-mes.eu/ Sorry by now I never explained the project EU-MeS project:: it started 2 years ago, I work for a social promotion association called Entropica sub-contractor for the technical part of the project. We built with Moodle a biennial specialization course for organised and held by the following universities: SOAS London,. Paris 8, Montpellier 3 C? Foscari Venice, Universitat Barcelona. The full course is made by 11 modules, each partner university did 2 modules and one (the "women and gender in the euro mediterranean context" module) held collectively by all partners. Each module was composed by 10 or 11 units according to a weekly timing. The most complexes units had video or audio contents in forms of video conferences or audio files, the others were a mere sequence of pdfs with a simple levels of interaction with students (submitting text files). At the end of the first two years and end of the project (for us) we had to take out the contents from the platform and put them back together in a scorm package without any involvement of the teachers, for this the scorm operation was a little bit suffering of neglect. Basically the scorm courses are only linear sequences of materials ordered as the weekly modules on the platform, anyway it was a very interesting work, for me a sort of learning by doing experience, also thanks to the help of this mailing list. In attachment the logo of the project (that I also realised). Giacomo This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I've wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I've had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the 'keep it simple' mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan - very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution - Dave showed me that I wasn't inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id - anyway, it's a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can't get the link to work - http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Oct 29 10:30:52 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:30:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote: > People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of > the problem here? > > > > I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or > the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too > complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and > if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page > titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? > > > > We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an > experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something > could be improved. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 27 October 2012 10:38 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has > a text block. > > > > However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a > connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector > pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally > inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text > Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we > ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text > blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control > the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when > making a text based connection. > > > > I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a > bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options > regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I > think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the > Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. > > > > There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the > implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather > loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: > > Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave > showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes > sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting > text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online > Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other > page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with > video and text. > > > > Best > > > > Andy > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 October 2012 16:27 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope > that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the > options for creating a the different project types are listed there. > However currently... > > > > If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project > then do > > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. > > > > Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. > > > > If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to > the page models and also the editing environment then do > > > > Pages / Create New Page Project > > > > Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and > then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type > folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. > > > > As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not > sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as > simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 > desktop? > > > > Thnx, > > Dave > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you > have entered into the form for the page. > > > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an > optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your > learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project > once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page > ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" > > > > Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. > > > > Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an > optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute > to the value you have used in your link. > > > > That should sort it. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some > reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here > is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > any ideas? > > Thanks. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 10:33:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:33:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. > > It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". > When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? > In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? > > I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. > > Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote: >> People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? >> >> >> >> I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? >> >> >> >> We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >> Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 >> >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT >> >> >> In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. >> >> >> >> However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. >> >> >> >> I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. >> >> >> >> There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote: >> >> Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan >> Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT >> >> >> >> You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... >> >> >> >> If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do >> >> Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. >> >> >> >> Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. >> >> >> >> If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do >> >> >> >> Pages / Create New Page Project >> >> >> >> Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. >> >> >> >> As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? >> >> >> >> Thnx, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 >> >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT >> >> >> >> The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. >> >> >> >> If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" >> >> >> >> Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. >> >> >> >> Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. >> >> >> >> That should sort it. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 >> >> it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink >> >> asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 >> >> any ideas? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 10:43:23 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:43:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 10:48:21 2012 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:48:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E3AF@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Yes - I frequently have to rename page titles - a page number id would be the best and most simple but again yes to the idea of clarifying the instructions. It's simple, but I missed it. And sorry for that. I had assumed by copying in the code on the page where I was placing the connector link that it would find the page - not being savvy to Xerte demands, it was not intuitive to me that I also had to create a unique id for the page which the connector page had to link to. andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 29 October 2012 10:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I've wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I've had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the 'keep it simple' mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan - very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution - Dave showed me that I wasn't inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id - anyway, it's a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can't get the link to work - http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Apparently he spoke at length to someone at Apple, and they told him 'kids can do it'. So that's all sorted then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 19 October 2012 12:47 To: Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas I'd use Xenith - create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different 'learning design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A 'Practicals' template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I'll do some demos :) A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 11:05:23 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E3AF@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , , , <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E3AF@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: Maybe even just a change in the existing verbiage: ...where targetid is the value you used when you Added the PageID property to the target page From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:48:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Yes ? I frequently have to rename page titles ? a page number id would be the best and most simple but again yes to the idea of clarifying the instructions. It?s simple, but I missed it. And sorry for that. I had assumed by copying in the code on the page where I was placing the connector link that it would find the page ? not being savvy to Xerte demands, it was not intuitive to me that I also had to create a unique id for the page which the connector page had to link to. andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 29 October 2012 10:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote: Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Can I have a Commodore 54? Apparently it does wonders.... (and no, I don't want an Apple, I've already got one, and yes it's pretty easy to eat...., kids can do it....) Op 29-10-2012 12:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Just to report. Lecturer has joined Apple developer programme and will > build an iPad app, from scratch, by himself. He did some programming > on a Commodore 54 [sic]. Apparently he spoke at length to someone at > Apple, and they told him 'kids can do it'. > > So that's all sorted then. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Alistair > McNaught > *Sent:* 19 October 2012 12:47 > *To:* Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; > Is-Learning-Team > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas > > I'd use Xenith -- create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or > videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there > would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page > of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where > students put questions or comments about bits of practical where > compare answer page was different from own observations.. > > I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different 'learning > design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few > instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' images and > video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust > have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A 'Practicals' > template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and > I'll do some demos J > > A > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 19 October 2012 09:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; > Is-Learning-Team > *Subject:* [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas > > Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: > > Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are > so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking > to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure > they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for > the right reasons. > > Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet > (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. > Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual > documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as > required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once > closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. > Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. > > I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight > development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project > from scratch. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 10:51:51 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:51:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney wrote: > Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > Why not provide a drop down list of pages? > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. > > It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". > When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? > In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? > > I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. > > Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote: > People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? > > I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? > > We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 > > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. > > However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. > > I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. > > There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. > > Best > > Andy > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... > > If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. > > Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. > > If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do > > Pages / Create New Page Project > > Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. > > As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? > > Thnx, > Dave > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Oct 29 11:21:51 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:21:51 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00dd01cdb5c7$98842990$c98c7cb0$@co.uk> :-) Let us know when the app is in the app store some time in 2013-14 perhaps... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 29 October 2012 11:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas Just to report. Lecturer has joined Apple developer programme and will build an iPad app, from scratch, by himself. He did some programming on a Commodore 54 [sic]. Apparently he spoke at length to someone at Apple, and they told him 'kids can do it'. So that's all sorted then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 19 October 2012 12:47 To: Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas I'd use Xenith - create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different 'learning design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A 'Practicals' template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I'll do some demos J A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student's individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student's doc at any time. I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 11:13:57 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1CAC0278-730B-4B2F-9133-58FAD6F6E550@googlemail.com> There is one for the grandkids On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > Just to report. Lecturer has joined Apple developer programme and will build an iPad app, from scratch, by himself. He did some programming on a Commodore 54 [sic]. Apparently he spoke at length to someone at Apple, and they told him ?kids can do it?. > > So that?s all sorted then. > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 19 October 2012 12:47 > To: Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; Is-Learning-Team > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas > > I?d use Xenith ? create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a ?Compare answer? page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. > > I?ve been thinking about ways of bundling together different ?learning design? templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some ?empty? images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A ?Practicals? template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I?ll do some demos J > > A > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team > Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas > > Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: > > Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they?re seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. > > Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student?s individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student?s doc at any time. > > I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 11:14:31 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas In-Reply-To: <508E63C5.4090304@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <508E63C5.4090304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <53B0C608-097D-40BE-AFB9-5A1A9C79C409@googlemail.com> I couldn't afford a Commodore 64 - I had a vic19 On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:08, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Cool! Can I have a Commodore 54? Apparently it does wonders.... (and no, I don't want an Apple, I've already got one, and yes it's pretty easy to eat...., kids can do it....) > > > > > Op 29-10-2012 12:04, Julian Tenney schreef: >> Just to report. Lecturer has joined Apple developer programme and will build an iPad app, from scratch, by himself. He did some programming on a Commodore 54 [sic]. Apparently he spoke at length to someone at Apple, and they told him ?kids can do it?. >> >> So that?s all sorted then. >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught >> Sent: 19 October 2012 12:47 >> To: Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; Is-Learning-Team >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas >> >> I?d use Xenith ? create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there would be a ?Compare answer? page for self testing and the final page of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) where students put questions or comments about bits of practical where compare answer page was different from own observations.. >> >> I?ve been thinking about ways of bundling together different ?learning design? templates - a shell of empty pages put together with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some ?empty? images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. A ?Practicals? template would lend itself to this approach. Just give me XOT2.0 and I?ll do some demos J >> >> A >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 19 October 2012 09:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; Is-Learning-Team >> Subject: [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas >> >> Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: >> >> Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes sure they?re seeing the right things and deducing the right conclusions for the right reasons. >> >> Proposal: iPads. Student works through some preconfigured worksheet (capable of equations / formulae) on an iPad during the lab session. Supervisor has the ability to see all of the student?s individual documents from his iPad, and provide comments to the student as required over the wi-fi. Comments are ephemeral, and disappear once closed, must support a dialog between the student and supervisor. Supervisor can look in at any student?s doc at any time. >> >> I want to tackle this with existing tools, or some very lightweight development to join up some technologies, not a custom built project from scratch. >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Oct 29 11:24:26 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:24:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas In-Reply-To: <53B0C608-097D-40BE-AFB9-5A1A9C79C409@googlemail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F4A4A61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C039D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <508E63C5.4090304@tor.nl> <53B0C608-097D-40BE-AFB9-5A1A9C79C409@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <508E676A.5020401@tor.nl> Don't want a Commodore 64, had one of those, as well as a Vic 20, but.... aparently that doesn't cut it. You should have opted for the 54.... Op 29-10-2012 12:14, Pat Lockley schreef: > I couldn't afford a Commodore 64 - I had a vic19 > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:08, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > >> Cool! Can I have a Commodore 54? Apparently it does wonders.... (and >> no, I don't want an Apple, I've already got one, and yes it's pretty >> easy to eat...., kids can do it....) >> >> >> >> >> Op 29-10-2012 12:04, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> >>> Just to report. Lecturer has joined Apple developer programme and >>> will build an iPad app, from scratch, by himself. He did some >>> programming on a Commodore 54 [sic]. Apparently he spoke at length >>> to someone at Apple, and they told him 'kids can do it'. >>> >>> So that's all sorted then. >>> >>> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >>> *Alistair McNaught >>> *Sent:* 19 October 2012 12:47 >>> *To:* Xerte discussion list; For Xerte technical developers; >>> Is-Learning-Team >>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Friday Problem: Any ideas >>> >>> I'd use Xenith -- create Xenith LO with key instructions / images or >>> videos in place. After each key bit of practical content/demo there >>> would be a "Compare answer" page for self testing and the final page >>> of the LO is the either Text wall (or an embedded TitanPad page) >>> where students put questions or comments about bits of practical >>> where compare answer page was different from own observations.. >>> >>> I've been thinking about ways of bundling together different >>> 'learning design' templates - a shell of empty pages put together >>> with a few instructions in the text dialogue boxes and some 'empty' >>> images and video etc that could be downloaded as a zip file and >>> people then jjust have to replace or delete the less relevant bits. >>> A 'Practicals' template would lend itself to this approach. Just >>> give me XOT2.0 and I'll do some demos J >>> >>> A >>> >>> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian >>> Tenney >>> *Sent:* 19 October 2012 09:31 >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers; Xerte discussion list; >>> Is-Learning-Team >>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Friday Problem: Any ideas >>> >>> Have you got any idea how we could tackle this problem: >>> >>> Background: Supervising students in a lab is a PITA because there >>> are so many of them. Typically, supervisor walks around the room >>> talking to students about what they are seeing happening, and makes >>> sure they're seeing the right things and deducing the right >>> conclusions for the right reasons. >>> >>> Proposal: iPads. 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If it's a permissions issue, not much we can do from here. I'll let you know... ________________________________ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:33:17 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Panic problem on XOT Export See the dev list... I didn't see this, because I don't have apache rewriting enabled, and you apparently do use that. This comes from the file website_code\php\url_library.php Replace line 84: return $string . "_rich_" . $template_number; With return $string . "_" . $template_number; Op 25-10-2012 21:49, Dave Burnett schreef: Any reason I would not have the SCORM options for an export? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:51:51 +0000 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney wrote: Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote:One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote:People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote:Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote:Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx,Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 11:33:23 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:33:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney > wrote: Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Oct 29 11:47:33 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:47:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Set a dirty flag on the Id and if in us then don't allow it to be changed - or give auto generated ids a schema so you can warn a user if they tried to change them? On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd > > > > Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? > > No idea how to code it though > > Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > Why not provide a drop down list of pages? > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. > > It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". > When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? > In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? > > I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. > > Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote: > People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? > > I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? > > We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 > > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. > > However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. > > I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. > > There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. > > Best > > Andy > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... > > If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. > > Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. > > If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do > > Pages / Create New Page Project > > Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. > > As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? > > Thnx, > Dave > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" > > Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. > > Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. > > That should sort it. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > any ideas? > > Thanks. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 11:55:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:55:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C042F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I?ll look at it, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 11:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Set a dirty flag on the Id and if in us then don't allow it to be changed - or give auto generated ids a schema so you can warn a user if they tried to change them? On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney > wrote: Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 11:55:38 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:55:38 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , , , <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Back to the prompt. Maybe first line of the instruction should be: First you must add a Page ID property to the target page and give it a unique value. From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:47:33 +0000 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Set a dirty flag on the Id and if in us then don't allow it to be changed - or give auto generated ids a schema so you can warn a user if they tried to change them? On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:33, Julian Tenney wrote: I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney wrote:Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote:One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote:People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote:Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote:Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx,Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote:Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 11:56:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:56:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , , , <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C0439@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Better to do as I suggested then it can all be done from the drop down, rather than sending the user away to do something? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 29 October 2012 11:56 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Back to the prompt. Maybe first line of the instruction should be: First you must add a Page ID property to the target page and give it a unique value. ________________________________ From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:47:33 +0000 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Set a dirty flag on the Id and if in us then don't allow it to be changed - or give auto generated ids a schema so you can warn a user if they tried to change them? On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:33, Julian Tenney > wrote: I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn't exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn't exist. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney > wrote: Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of 'pageList'. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn't exist... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I've wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I've had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the 'keep it simple' mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Thanks Johnathan - very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution - Dave showed me that I wasn't inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id - anyway, it's a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett > wrote: Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx, Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can't get the link to work - http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 12:00:49 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:00:49 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C0439@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , , , , , , , <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C0439@EXCHANGE1.a d.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: True. But in the interim changing an instruction requires very little beta testing. :-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:56:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Better to do as I suggested then it can all be done from the drop down, rather than sending the user away to do something? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 29 October 2012 11:56 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Back to the prompt. Maybe first line of the instruction should be: First you must add a Page ID property to the target page and give it a unique value. From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:47:33 +0000 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOTSet a dirty flag on the Id and if in us then don't allow it to be changed - or give auto generated ids a schema so you can warn a user if they tried to change them? On 29 Oct 2012, at 11:33, Julian Tenney wrote:I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to validate later on? No idea how to code it though Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney wrote:Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they didn?t exist? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 October 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT Why not provide a drop down list of pages? On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan wrote:One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for Xerte use which would you want it to be? I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind people to set a page ID for their destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney wrote:People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of the problem here? I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something could be improved. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 October 2012 10:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has a text block. However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when making a text based connection. I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew wrote:Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with video and text. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 26 October 2012 16:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the options for creating a the different project types are listed there. However currently... If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project then do Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to the page models and also the editing environment then do Pages / Create New Page Project Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote:Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 desktop? Thnx,Dave Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.comTo: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you have entered into the form for the page. If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute to the value you have used in your link. That should sort it. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew wrote:Hi I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here is the code I entered as a hyperlink asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 any ideas? Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Oct 29 12:01:01 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:01:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA017B16@DB3PRD0104MB107.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01E26D@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C028E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <858B1BAF-D49C-44DB-B94D-B2BBE3726904@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C034C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0CDEFB24-6A59-4823-806B-E782C01B53A9@googlemail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F5C03DF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The source of the list of pages in a project is different for Xerte projects and for XOT or Page Templates projects. XOT contains the data for all the pages in the project in a single .xml file so the connector pages access the page ID by extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.pageID In desktop Xerte pages projects each page has its own separate xml file. Xerte builds an array rootIcon.pages from which the page data can be accessed e.g. rootIcon.pages[i].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID The building of the array takes place at run time and has not completed by the time the rootIcon.onInit event is broadcast. So the data is not available to the xwd file to be able to offer a list of pages. However in desktop Xerte Julian modified the engine so that on changing the page title i.e. name attribute in the page's xwd form this value was transferred to the associated page icon's name attribute written in the .rlo file. So in desktop Xerte the source of the page names would have to be the rlo file. Is it doable that the engine could be coded so that one solution can work in the xwd forms for the pages and for the page models, irrespective of them residing in Xerte or XOT? Kind regards Johnathan Kind regards Johnathan On 29 October 2012 11:33, Julian Tenney wrote: > I can code it, the engine needs to do it, based on that type in .xwd > > > > > > > > Then the wizard needs to build the list based on the data on the tree, and > show the user page titles to choose from. When one is selected it needs to > generate an ID if one doesn?t exist on the target page, and then link to > that. I think that would work? I think also the user could screw it up by > changing the ID later and breaking the link: the generated ID would be > targ12398637562 or something like that, it would be better to prompt the > user to create a friendly one if one didn?t exist. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Pat Lockley > *Sent:* 29 October 2012 10:52 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > Strikes me it better to offer a choice of valid options than to try to > validate later on? > > > > No idea how to code it though > > > > Of course you could go crazy and connect to pages in other projects.... > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:43, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Good idea. That would require some work in the engine, and a type in the > xwd file of ?pageList?. For attributes labelled as such, the engine would > then present the drop down, and could generate IDs automagically if they > didn?t exist? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Pat Lockley > *Sent:* 29 October 2012 10:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > Why not provide a drop down list of pages? > > On 29 Oct 2012, at 10:30, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > One problem may be that people are failing to locate the documentation > that supports the Connector pages. Which does not surprise me as at the > moment the only place I know they are accessible from is either the help > folder of a desktop Xerte install, or from the SVN. > > > > It should be possible to check for page ID and then for page "title". > > When you say "page title" are you referring to the xml attribute "name" ? > > In desktop Xerte there is both a "name" and a "title" attribute but in XOT > the label "Page Title" is used to refer to the attribute "name". So for > Xerte use which would you want it to be? > > > > I am concerned that this approach may instead complicate things. By using > only Page IDs for connections projects retain a consistency of approach and > the connections are safe from side effects resulting from the renaming > (retitling) of a page. Page IDs are free from having to do duty as a page > title and so can reflect the logical structure of the connections. > > > > Perhaps an alternative solution is to include an info statement to remind > people to set a page ID for their destination page. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 29 October 2012 09:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > People are missing the need to create a page ID? Is that the root cause of > the problem here? > > > > I?ve wondered if the navigation stuff should use either the page title or > the page ID? I?ve had feedback from people that the ID makes things too > complicated / is easy to miss etc. If the code looked first for an ID, and > if found, navigated to that, but if not found, it then checked the page > titles, and if found, navigated to that, it would catch both situations? > > > > We have got to keep the ?keep it simple? mantra in mind here. Andy is an > experienced user, and this should be a simple task. This tells me something > could be improved. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 27 October 2012 10:38 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > In principle it is possible to add this functionality to any page that has > a text block. > > > > However this raises the question of when is a connector page not a > connector page. For you could end up potentially with a list of connector > pages that duplicated most of the existing pages. I would be personally > inclined to treat the ability to link from text as in the Plain Text > Connector Page as something that is not really a "Connector Page" if we > ever went down the route of making this facility available to all text > blocks. Almost all the other Connector pages offer facilities to control > the navigation options of the destination page, a feature not offered when > making a text based connection. > > > > I think the concept of connector pages is still in its infancy. There is a > bit of tidying up that I am working with Julian on, to improve the options > regarding navigation and setting navigation for destination pages. Then I > think it will be worth waiting a while and seeing what the take up of the > Connector pages is and getting a feel for how people use them. > > > > There is also the major issue of HTML5. Until I am clearer about the > implications of converting existing Connector pages to HTML5 I am rather > loathe to expand the range of Connector pages available. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 October 2012 16:32, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: > > Thanks Johnathan ? very helpful. Yes, it was a very simple solution ? Dave > showed me that I wasn?t inserting a page id where it was needed. Makes > sense now but in the instruction I only could see about copying and pasting > text with the page id ? anyway, it?s a great addition for Xerte Online > Toolkits and I wonder if it will be possible to add this function to other > page types in XOT such as a page with graphics and text or a page with > video and text. > > > > Best > > > > Andy > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 26 October 2012 16:27 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > > > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > You have two ways to use the Page Models in Xerte 2.18 desktop. I hope > that soon we will be able to improve the File / New menu so that all the > options for creating a the different project types are listed there. > However currently... > > > > If you want a page templates type project i.e. a toolkits style project > then do > > Pages / Create Template Project from Pages. > > > > Add pages in the same way as normal for Page Templates or XOT projects. > > > > If you want to use the new Pages type project that gives full access to > the page models and also the editing environment then do > > > > Pages / Create New Page Project > > > > Add pages by selecting the "Interface" element in the project tree and > then select the page type that you want to add from the range of page type > folders that you will find off the Pages Menu. > > > > As to how to duplicate the problem that Andrew is experiencing, I am not > sure since I am not sure what the cause of the problem is. It may be as > simple as not having specified a page ID for the destination page. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 25 October 2012 17:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Johnathan, how would one go about recreating Andy's situation in 2.18 > desktop? > > > > Thnx, > > Dave > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:52 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT > > > > The link to your project is not much help as I can't access the values you > have entered into the form for the page. > > > > If you take a look at the learning object you should find it has an > optional property of "Add Author Support". Add this attribute to your > learning object and ensure the check box is ticked. Then play your project > once more and try your hyperlink. You should see a message displayed "Page > ID: somePageID could not be found in this project" > > > > Where "somePageID" will be the pageID you have specified in your link. > > > > Then check the destination page to ensure that you have given it an > optional attribute of "Page ID" and that you have set the Page ID attribute > to the value you have used in your link. > > > > That should sort it. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 25 October 2012 15:34, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to use the plain text connector page in XOT but for some > reason I can?t get the link to work ? http://xerte.warwick.ac.uk/play_116 > > it highlights as a link on page 3 but does not link back to page 2. Here > is the code I entered as a hyperlink > > asfunction:_level0.engine.fnTextCon,page2 > > any ideas? > > Thanks. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Oct 29 12:21:33 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:21:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] work in the engine ... help Message-ID: Julian whilst you are talking about "work in the engine..." Part of the recent discussion regarding the Connector page ID has been about what information we make available to support the author in the use of the page. It seems to me that we have two possibly conflicting demands on Xerte / XOT 1. Keep it simple 2. Provide more complex page types e.g. Mapstraction, Connector Pages, to meet the demands of specific project needs, more experience users, learning technologists etc. More features can be perceived as making a page type less intuitive or less simple to use. But much of this could be resolved if some simple help documentation could be made available to the page user, from the xwd form. The current xwd forms are rather limited in the support you can provide from within the form. Ron Mitchell sent me a sample project based on work carried out prior to the development of XOT which included support for help links either for each field or from an info tag. However there appear to be issues with the addressing of the files linked to depending whether you are in Xerte or XOT. Ron wrote "However from a quick test it seems the info tag link might only work with a full url e.g. Help for plain text connector. Click here]]> also in XOT the local help links alongside each option only seem to work in desktop even if a full url is used. XOT didn't even exist when we first implemented this so it would probably need a change to the engine code to allow the help links to work in XOT and local info links to work in desktop. " At present in both XOT and Xerte we have the ability to access an image for a page type and a brief description. The engine manages the locating of these files, which are stored in specific folders in the project folder or XOT installation. Would it not be possible to utilise this same approach to open from the page's xwd a help file. If this was a pdf we could have a single file that could include graphics and text as well as links to sections of the document if required. Help files could be created in Open Office which is Open Source. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 12:36:43 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:36:43 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Xot Export > archive .zip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Archive export.Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Mon Oct 29 20:01:41 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: <50840950.3040102@tor.nl> References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl> <50840950.3040102@tor.nl> Message-ID: <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com> I've been busy and not reading all the posts.but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I'm assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte - it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From the post below I?m assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte ? it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef:I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks,Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Mon Oct 29 20:31:45 2012 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, , , , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl> , <50840950.3040102@tor.nl>, <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: Hopefully the Flash Player won't someday have the installation issues the AW Web Player has ... Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Think of Xerte desktop as AW7. ;-) ________________________________ From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte I've been busy and not reading all the posts...but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I'm assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte - it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 20:36:21 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:36:21 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,<011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, ,,, , , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl>, , <50840950.3040102@tor.nl>, , <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com>, , Message-ID: Does it?I haven't tried one in ages. Dave From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Hopefully the Flash Player won?t someday have the installation issues the AW Web Player has ? Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Think of Xerte desktop as AW7. ;-) From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte I?ve been busy and not reading all the posts?but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I?m assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte ? it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Mon Oct 29 20:45:16 2012 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:45:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,<011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, ,,, , , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl>, , <50840950.3040102@tor.nl>, , <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com>, , Message-ID: You need administrator-level rights to install it. My clients are bank employees, and their systems are almost always locked down. They have to involve their IT dept. to install it. Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:36 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Does it? I haven't tried one in ages. Dave ________________________________ From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Hopefully the Flash Player won't someday have the installation issues the AW Web Player has ... Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Think of Xerte desktop as AW7. ;-) ________________________________ From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte I've been busy and not reading all the posts...but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I'm assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte - it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 21:03:36 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:03:36 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, , , , , , ,,<5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl>, , , <50840950.3040102@tor.nl>, , , <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: Not handy.But then AW is much more dangerous than Flash. ;-) From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:45:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte You need administrator-level rights to install it. My clients are bank employees, and their systems are almost always locked down. They have to involve their IT dept. to install it. Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:36 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Does it? I haven't tried one in ages. Dave From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Hopefully the Flash Player won?t someday have the installation issues the AW Web Player has ? Paul Swanson Internal Business Systems Analyst Internal Business Intelligence Harland Financial Solutions From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:19 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Think of Xerte desktop as AW7. ;-) From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte I?ve been busy and not reading all the posts?but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I?m assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte ? it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Oct 29 22:08:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:08:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte In-Reply-To: <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com> References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABD6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3F3AABFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <011201cdac85$0e471620$2ad54260$@co.uk>, , <5083FD4B.5010408@tor.nl> <50840950.3040102@tor.nl>, <013b01cdb610$36dabfd0$a4903f70$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3EE8E5EF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> yes ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com] Sent: 29 October 2012 20:01 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte I?ve been busy and not reading all the posts?but not for lack of interest! >From the post below I?m assuming nothing will changed with desktop xerte ? it will remain with the Flash player, correct? Only toolkits will go to HTML5? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Platform for Xerte Flash player In the near futur, you will also be able to play the Learning Objects with a Xerte HTML 5 player. This player also handles different screen sizes much better than the current Flash based player. Op 21-10-2012 16:31, Suhaila Haji Mohd Hussin schreef: I see and when you said flash capable device, did you mean devices that support flash player or flash storage device? Many thanks, Suhaila From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Tue Oct 30 07:50:04 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Brane_=A9mitek?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:50:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Message-ID: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. I changed the name of the interface icon to module: Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without any problem. i attached my project files. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Project.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 6542049 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 09:40:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:40:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard In-Reply-To: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA3CD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sounds like you're not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on the LO icon for templateData? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 07:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. I changed the name of the interface icon to module: Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without any problem. i attached my project files. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Branislav ?MITEK UMb FAKULTETA ZA ORGANIZACIJSKE VEDE Kidri?eva cesta 55/a 4000 KRANJ tel: 04 237 42 63 fax: 04 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:41 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Sounds like you're not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on the LO icon for templateData? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 07:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. I changed the name of the interface icon to module: Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without any problem. i attached my project files. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 27881 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Oct 30 11:05:19 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:05:19 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard In-Reply-To: <003d01cdb685$d1119b30$7334d190$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA3CD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003d01cdb685$d1119b30$7334d190$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <004301cdb68e$76187ce0$624976a0$@co.uk> I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies but it's something to do with the language settings. If you open pages.rlo, change language to en-GB, save and close page.rlo then re-open it you'll find the wizards for each page then open. Perhaps Tom or Jonathan can look at your project and advise what's missing or wrong with the sv-SV configuration. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 10:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Double click on Learning object icon opens windows with data. Double click on other icons inside interface only close Xerte main window. Icon window doesn't appear. lep pozdrav doc. dr. Branislav ?MITEK UMb FAKULTETA ZA ORGANIZACIJSKE VEDE Kidri?eva cesta 55/a 4000 KRANJ tel: 04 237 42 63 fax: 04 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:41 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Sounds like you're not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on the LO icon for templateData? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 07:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. I changed the name of the interface icon to module: Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without any problem. i attached my project files. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Oct 30 11:16:49 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:16:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: if you click on export what do you see? On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi ? should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip > file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go > to ?Properties? I can see an export option but no import option ? > > > > Thanks. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Oct 30 11:27:37 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:27:37 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> Sounds like you have a project selected rather than workspace e.g. if you are seeing export it suggests you have an LO selected Perhaps refresh, select the workspace icon and then properties - you should see 4 tabs one of which is import From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no import option - Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 11:24:46 2012 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:24:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFD2@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> When I click on export I see the following (below): presently I can export and upload to our moodle site, but I would like to share an XOT project file with another user's Xerte account in our hosted version of XOT - so, I believe I would need to export the file, share the scorm file with them, and then have them import it back into their XOT account. I thought GetArchiveZip suggests it can be done, but cannot see an import option/button. There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install: Get Deployment Zip. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook: Get SCORM 1.2 package Get SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users: Get Archive Zip. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 October 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT if you click on export what do you see? On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm > zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my > workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no > import option - > > > > Thanks. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Oct 30 11:29:54 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:29:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFD2@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFD2@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: you are on a project page - that is project properties and not workspace properties you can share by "giving" or "sharing" as well? On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > When I click on export I see the following (below): presently I can export and upload to our moodle site, but I would like to share an XOT project file with another user's Xerte account in our hosted version of XOT - so, I believe I would need to export the file, share the scorm file with them, and then have them import it back into their XOT account. I thought GetArchiveZip suggests it can be done, but cannot see an import option/button. > > > > There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files used by the project. > > Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing into another XOT install: > Get Deployment Zip. > > Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook: > Get SCORM 1.2 package > > Get SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package > > Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users: > Get Archive Zip. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 October 2012 11:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT > > if you click on export what do you see? > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: >> Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm >> zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my >> workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no >> import option - >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 11:30:47 2012 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:30:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> Message-ID: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Yes, I click on Workspace but have no access - I will chat with my hosting company. Thanks for your time Ron. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 11:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Sounds like you have a project selected rather than workspace e.g. if you are seeing export it suggests you have an LO selected Perhaps refresh, select the workspace icon and then properties - you should see 4 tabs one of which is import From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no import option - Thanks. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Oct 30 11:32:26 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:32:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: go to site_url/workspaceproperties.php instead On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Yes, I click on Workspace but have no access ? I will chat with my hosting > company. Thanks for your time Ron. > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 30 October 2012 11:28 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file > in XOT > > > > Sounds like you have a project selected rather than workspace e.g. if you > are seeing export it suggests you have an LO selected > > Perhaps refresh, select the workspace icon and then properties - you should > see 4 tabs one of which is import > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew > Sent: 30 October 2012 11:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in > XOT > > > > Hi ? should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip > file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go > to ?Properties? I can see an export option but no import option ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Oct 30 11:50:22 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:50:22 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <007201cdb694$bf1a7690$3d4f63b0$@co.uk> These guides might help - they are all for 1.7 but not too much has changed in the general steps. As Pat says if your purpose is to share an LO with a colleague who has an account on the same installation you should be able to share or give a copy of your LO without exporting and importing. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_10 http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/resources/detail/goingdigital/Xerte_Edi tingPt1 http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/resources/detail/goingdigital/Xerte_Edi tingPt2 HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Yes, I click on Workspace but have no access - I will chat with my hosting company. Thanks for your time Ron. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 11:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Sounds like you have a project selected rather than workspace e.g. if you are seeing export it suggests you have an LO selected Perhaps refresh, select the workspace icon and then properties - you should see 4 tabs one of which is import From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no import option - Thanks. 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URL: From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 11:51:40 2012 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT In-Reply-To: <007201cdb694$bf1a7690$3d4f63b0$@co.uk> References: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFA5@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <005501cdb691$91992b60$b4cb8220$@co.uk> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA01FFEA@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <007201cdb694$bf1a7690$3d4f63b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA020052@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Many thanks for this. Much appreciated. Issue now being resolved. Best Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 11:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT These guides might help - they are all for 1.7 but not too much has changed in the general steps. As Pat says if your purpose is to share an LO with a colleague who has an account on the same installation you should be able to share or give a copy of your LO without exporting and importing. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_10 http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/resources/detail/goingdigital/Xerte_EditingPt1 http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk/techdis/resources/detail/goingdigital/Xerte_EditingPt2 HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Yes, I click on Workspace but have no access - I will chat with my hosting company. Thanks for your time Ron. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 11:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Sounds like you have a project selected rather than workspace e.g. if you are seeing export it suggests you have an LO selected Perhaps refresh, select the workspace icon and then properties - you should see 4 tabs one of which is import From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 30 October 2012 11:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] importing an exported Archive zip or other scorm file in XOT Hi - should it be possible to import back into XOT an exported Scorm zip file? In my hosted installation of XOT, when I click on my workspace and go to 'Properties' I can see an export option but no import option - Thanks. 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URL: From brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si Tue Oct 30 12:16:11 2012 From: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Brane_=A9mitek?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:16:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard In-Reply-To: <004301cdb68e$76187ce0$624976a0$@co.uk> References: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA3CD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003d01cdb685$d1119b30$7334d190$@fov.uni-mb.si> <004301cdb68e$76187ce0$624976a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <008c01cdb698$59729c60$0c57d520$@fov.uni-mb.si> Your advice was correct. It seems that in the project I can't experiment with language settings. I watched the video from your last conference. There I saw that there is the possibility of localization. I do not need localized xerte user interface. I would like to have only localized e-learning module (SCORM) for the Moodle. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:05 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies but it's something to do with the language settings. If you open pages.rlo, change language to en-GB, save and close page.rlo then re-open it you'll find the wizards for each page then open. Perhaps Tom or Jonathan can look at your project and advise what's missing or wrong with the sv-SV configuration. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 10:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Double click on Learning object icon opens windows with data. Double click on other icons inside interface only close Xerte main window. Icon window doesn't appear. lep pozdrav doc. dr. Branislav ?MITEK UMb FAKULTETA ZA ORGANIZACIJSKE VEDE Kidri?eva cesta 55/a 4000 KRANJ tel: 04 237 42 63 fax: 04 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:41 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Sounds like you're not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on the LO icon for templateData? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 07:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. I changed the name of the interface icon to module: Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without any problem. i attached my project files. Kind regards Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. University of Maribor FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES Kidriceva cesta 55/a SI4000 KRANJ SLOVENIA tel: +386 4 237 42 63 fax: +386 4 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Oct 30 13:00:35 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Not tested this but try: Export your LO.Open the zip fileExtract template.rltIn template.rlt add stageSize="1024,680" // replace the values with whatever you liketo the tag in the middle does the trick it also makes the border look weird as Xerte only puts it around the first line of the label. Is there a change I could do in the code somewhere that would make this work? Regards, Gerrard Shaw Senior IT Officer Redbridge Institute of Adult Education gerrard.shaw at redbridge-iae.ac.uk 020 8498 8284 - Direct Line 020 8550 2398 - Switchboard REDBRIDGE INSTITUTE OF ADULT EDUCATION & LONDON BOROUGH OF REDBRIDGE DISCLAIMER This e-mail and its attachments contains proprietary confidential information some or all of which may be legally privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail; you must not use, disclose, copy, print or disseminate the information contained within this e-mail. Please notify the author immediately by replying to this e-mail. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states these to be the views of Redbridge Institute of Adult Education or the London Borough of Redbridge. 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Open dragDropLabel.rlm in Xerte and change the drawLabels script e.g. changing tempClip.drawRect(0,0,tempClip.getTextWidth(), 50 + (12 - STYLES.defaultSize)*-1 / 2); will make the box height 50px You could probably be cleverer than that and change the height dynamically. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Gerrard Shaw Sent: 30 October 2012 12:49 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Hi, I'm testing out the updated version of Xerte Toolkits but having a problem when trying to create an interactive drag and drop activity with a large image. Is there any way to increase the size of the content area from the standard 800x600? I can see options in the Object properties to display full-screen but it doesn't seem to have any effect? Problem being that I've got a "lifecycle wheel" that our care tutors would like to have as a label activity but it doesn't fit properly in the standard Xerte window. (all our PCs use 19" or larger monitors at 1280x1024 so I'm not worried about the window size being larger) I'd also like to have 2-line labels (as some of the text is quite like), although putting a
tag in the middle does the trick it also makes the border look weird as Xerte only puts it around the first line of the label. Is there a change I could do in the code somewhere that would make this work? Regards, Gerrard Shaw Senior IT Officer Redbridge Institute of Adult Education gerrard.shaw at redbridge-iae.ac.uk 020 8498 8284 - Direct Line 020 8550 2398 - Switchboard _____ REDBRIDGE INSTITUTE OF ADULT EDUCATION & LONDON BOROUGH OF REDBRIDGE DISCLAIMER This e-mail and its attachments contains proprietary confidential information some or all of which may be legally privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail; you must not use, disclose, copy, print or disseminate the information contained within this e-mail. Please notify the author immediately by replying to this e-mail. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states these to be the views of Redbridge Institute of Adult Education or the London Borough of Redbridge. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses and all reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present. The London Borough of Redbridge cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments. Before printing, think about the environment - do you really need to print this e-mail? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrard.shaw at redbridge-iae.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 13:51:53 2012 From: gerrard.shaw at redbridge-iae.ac.uk (Gerrard Shaw) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:51:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Dave, Thanks for the reply. I can't see a template.rlt but do have template.xml (tried adding the line but didn't have any effect unfortunately) @Ron The fullscreen view does work but it just zooms the existing content rather than allowing extra screen real estate to work with. Thanks for the suggestion for the labels, will give that a go if there's a way to crack the window size for XOT. Regards, Gerrard From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 13:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Not tested this but try: Export your LO. Open the zip file Extract template.rlt In template.rlt add stageSize="1024,680" // replace the values with whatever you like to the To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:49:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Hi, I'm testing out the updated version of Xerte Toolkits but having a problem when trying to create an interactive drag and drop activity with a large image. Is there any way to increase the size of the content area from the standard 800x600? I can see options in the Object properties to display full-screen but it doesn't seem to have any effect? Problem being that I've got a "lifecycle wheel" that our care tutors would like to have as a label activity but it doesn't fit properly in the standard Xerte window. (all our PCs use 19" or larger monitors at 1280x1024 so I'm not worried about the window size being larger) I'd also like to have 2-line labels (as some of the text is quite like), although putting a
tag in the middle does the trick it also makes the border look weird as Xerte only puts it around the first line of the label. Is there a change I could do in the code somewhere that would make this work? Regards, Gerrard Shaw Senior IT Officer Redbridge Institute of Adult Education gerrard.shaw at redbridge-iae.ac.uk 020 8498 8284 - Direct Line 020 8550 2398 - Switchboard ________________________________ REDBRIDGE INSTITUTE OF ADULT EDUCATION & LONDON BOROUGH OF REDBRIDGE DISCLAIMER This e-mail and its attachments contains proprietary confidential information some or all of which may be legally privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail; you must not use, disclose, copy, print or disseminate the information contained within this e-mail. Please notify the author immediately by replying to this e-mail. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Oct 30 14:25:31 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:25:31 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <00e301cdb6aa$6b81d9e0$42858da0$@co.uk> Hi Gerrard changing the stage size alone won't help you here. You'd need to edit dragDropLabel.rlm and change various dimensions controlling image size, textbox size, relative positions etc It can be done but it's not as simple as just changing stage size. Your rlt file will be called learningobject.rlt HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Gerrard Shaw Sent: 30 October 2012 13:52 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Hi Dave, Thanks for the reply. I can't see a template.rlt but do have template.xml (tried adding the line but didn't have any effect unfortunately) @Ron The fullscreen view does work but it just zooms the existing content rather than allowing extra screen real estate to work with. Thanks for the suggestion for the labels, will give that a go if there's a way to crack the window size for XOT. Regards, Gerrard From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 13:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Not tested this but try: Export your LO. Open the zip file Extract template.rlt In template.rlt add stageSize="1024,680" // replace the values with whatever you like to the tag in the middle does the trick it also makes the border look weird as Xerte only puts it around the first line of the label. Is there a change I could do in the code somewhere that would make this work? 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I can?t see a template.rlt but do have template.xml (tried adding the line but didn?t have any effect unfortunately) @Ron The fullscreen view does work but it just zooms the existing content rather than allowing extra screen real estate to work with. Thanks for the suggestion for the labels, will give that a go if there?s a way to crack the window size for XOT. Regards, Gerrard From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 13:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Toolkits window size Not tested this but try: Export your LO. Open the zip file Extract template.rlt In template.rlt add stageSize="1024,680" // replace the values with whatever you like to the tag in the middle does the trick it also makes the border look weird as Xerte only puts it around the first line of the label. Is there a change I could do in the code somewhere that would make this work? 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[cid:image001.jpg at 01CDB6AE.7D89F3D0] Double click on other icons inside interface only close Xerte main window. Icon window doesn't appear. lep pozdrav doc. dr. Branislav ?MITEK UMb FAKULTETA ZA ORGANIZACIJSKE VEDE Kidri?eva cesta 55/a 4000 KRANJ tel: 04 237 42 63 fax: 04 237 42 99 e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:41 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard Sounds like you're not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on the LO icon for templateData? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brane ?mitek Sent: 30 October 2012 07:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Oct 30 21:16:35 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:16:35 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <00e301cdb6aa$6b81d9e0$42858da0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <018001cdb6e3$d8aa6710$89ff3530$@co.uk> I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. - Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:16:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTHRon From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace.- Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace- Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop.- Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:16:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTHRon From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace.- Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace- Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop.- Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 30 21:30:42 2012 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:30:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO In-Reply-To: <018001cdb6e3$d8aa6710$89ff3530$@co.uk> References: , , , , <00e301cdb6aa$6b81d9e0$42858da0$@co.uk> <018001cdb6e3$d8aa6710$89ff3530$@co.uk> Message-ID: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA0202A9@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Deleting wizards folder worked for me too - thanks Ron. But wondering why this happens. Well, anyway, it works dammit. Brilliant. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 21:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. - Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Oct 30 21:46:38 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:46:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO In-Reply-To: <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA0202A9@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: , , , , <00e301cdb6aa$6b81d9e0$42858da0$@co.uk> <018001cdb6e3$d8aa6710$89ff3530$@co.uk> <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA0202A9@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <50904ABE.9050602@tor.nl> I'll investigate, and I'll fix this. It should just work without having to modify the .zip Op 30-10-2012 22:30, Davidson, Andrew schreef: > > Deleting wizards folder worked for me too -- thanks Ron. But wondering > why this happens. Well, anyway, it works dammit. Brilliant. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 30 October 2012 21:17 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Importing LO > > I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside > the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get > the import to work? It does for me. > > Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the > zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any > folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the > import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 30 October 2012 20:23 > *To:* Xerte list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Importing LO > > OK, here is what I am doing. > > - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. > > - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop > > - Highlight Workspace > > - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. > > - Upload. > > Counts up to 100% then throws this message: > > "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not > within another folder in the zip." > > No change appears in the Workspace tree. > > Ideas? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 21:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. - Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Brilliant. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 30 October 2012 21:17 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO > > I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. > > Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. > > HTH > Ron > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO > > > OK, here is what I am doing. > > - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. > - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop > > - Highlight Workspace > - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. > - Upload. > > Counts up to 100% then throws this message: > > "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." > > No change appears in the Workspace tree. > > Ideas? > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Hopefully Tom can resolve this as like he says it should just work without modifying the zip like it did in 1.7 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 30 Oct 2012, at 21:30, "Davidson, Andrew" wrote: > >> Deleting wizards folder worked for me too ? thanks Ron. But wondering why this happens. Well, anyway, it works dammit. Brilliant. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 30 October 2012 21:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO >> >> I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. >> >> Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett >> Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO >> >> >> OK, here is what I am doing. >> >> - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. >> - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop >> >> - Highlight Workspace >> - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. >> - Upload. >> >> Counts up to 100% then throws this message: >> >> "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." >> >> No change appears in the Workspace tree. >> >> Ideas? >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From danattwood at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 09:43:57 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:43:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] insert button greyed out Message-ID: Having finally got permission to move my moodle/ xerte install from windows to an ubuntu 12.04 one. I've updated all the files paths I could fine and have the login from moodle and main edit windows working. However I'm getting the old problem where the insert button is greyed out and so not allowing me to add things. In my /etc/apache2/mod-available/mime.conf i have added; AddType text/plain .rlm AddType text/plain .rlt AddType text/plain .rlo and I've start stopped the apache server but still no dice. Does anyone one have any notes or configs they could share with me on getting this running on ubuntu? From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 31 09:52:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:52:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: insert button greyed out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it might not be finding the files full stop. Usually on Unix / Nix boxes you don't need to add mimetypes access the editor in a browser with a network console and see what 404s On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: > Having finally got permission to move my moodle/ xerte install from > windows to an ubuntu 12.04 one. I've updated all the files paths I > could fine and have the login from moodle and main edit windows > working. However I'm getting the old problem where the insert button > is greyed out and so not allowing me to add things. > > In my /etc/apache2/mod-available/mime.conf i have added; > > AddType text/plain .rlm > AddType text/plain .rlt > AddType text/plain .rlo > > and I've start stopped the apache server but still no dice. > > Does anyone one have any notes or configs they could share with me on > getting this running on ubuntu? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From danattwood at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 10:05:36 2012 From: danattwood at gmail.com (Dan Attwood) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:05:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: insert button greyed out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: looks like i might have sorted it. I re-permissioned the USER-FILES folder I then noticed that when creating new files it was looking for the wrong folders. It was looking for 252-dattwood which doesn't exist. 252-jblogs does exist though. Fiddling with some new users this then started to work correctly. On 31 October 2012 09:52, Pat Lockley wrote: > it might not be finding the files full stop. Usually on Unix / Nix > boxes you don't need to add mimetypes > > access the editor in a browser with a network console and see what 404s > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: >> Having finally got permission to move my moodle/ xerte install from >> windows to an ubuntu 12.04 one. I've updated all the files paths I >> could fine and have the login from moodle and main edit windows >> working. However I'm getting the old problem where the insert button >> is greyed out and so not allowing me to add things. >> >> In my /etc/apache2/mod-available/mime.conf i have added; >> >> AddType text/plain .rlm >> AddType text/plain .rlt >> AddType text/plain .rlo >> >> and I've start stopped the apache server but still no dice. >> >> Does anyone one have any notes or configs they could share with me on >> getting this running on ubuntu? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 31 10:07:07 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:07:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: insert button greyed out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the amount of time you can save yourself with chrome's console / fiddler is amazing. Fixes almost all 404s for me On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: > looks like i might have sorted it. > I re-permissioned the USER-FILES folder > I then noticed that when creating new files it was looking for the > wrong folders. It was looking for 252-dattwood which doesn't exist. > 252-jblogs does exist though. > > Fiddling with some new users this then started to work correctly. > > > > > > > On 31 October 2012 09:52, Pat Lockley wrote: >> it might not be finding the files full stop. Usually on Unix / Nix >> boxes you don't need to add mimetypes >> >> access the editor in a browser with a network console and see what 404s >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Dan Attwood wrote: >>> Having finally got permission to move my moodle/ xerte install from >>> windows to an ubuntu 12.04 one. I've updated all the files paths I >>> could fine and have the login from moodle and main edit windows >>> working. However I'm getting the old problem where the insert button >>> is greyed out and so not allowing me to add things. >>> >>> In my /etc/apache2/mod-available/mime.conf i have added; >>> >>> AddType text/plain .rlm >>> AddType text/plain .rlt >>> AddType text/plain .rlo >>> >>> and I've start stopped the apache server but still no dice. >>> >>> Does anyone one have any notes or configs they could share with me on >>> getting this running on ubuntu? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Oct 31 10:22:30 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard In-Reply-To: <008c01cdb698$59729c60$0c57d520$@fov.uni-mb.si> References: <000601cdb673$2cb2ebf0$8618c3d0$@fov.uni-mb.si> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA3CD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003d01cdb685$d1119b30$7334d190$@fov.uni-mb.si> <004301cdb68e$76187ce0$624976a0$@co.uk> <008c01cdb698$59729c60$0c57d520$@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: Sorry I can't offer much help on this one. I was involved with the language aspects of the xwd files, which govern what language the wizard forms for the pages are displayed in. Basically I just made sure that there were no language strings in the model files and that all language strings displayed by each page type were exposed in the wizard files (xwd files). Translations of the xwd files are achieved by using the web based resource that Tom set up. Once you have a set of xwd files translated into your language of choice then these would need adding to your Xerte install. Tom is in the best position to advise on this one as he handled the internationalisation. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 October 2012 12:16, Brane ?mitek wrote: > Your advice was correct. It seems that in the project I can't experiment > with language settings. > > I watched the video from your last conference. There I saw that there is > the possibility of localization. > > I do not need localized xerte user interface. I would like to have only > localized e-learning module (SCORM) for the Moodle. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:05 PM > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard > > > > I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies but it's something to do with > the language settings. > > If you open pages.rlo, change language to en-GB, save and close page.rlo > then re-open it you'll find the wizards for each page then open. > > Perhaps Tom or Jonathan can look at your project and advise what's missing > or wrong with the sv-SV configuration. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Brane ?mitek > *Sent:* 30 October 2012 10:04 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard > > > > Double click on Learning object icon opens windows with data. > > > > > > Double click on other icons inside interface only close Xerte main window. > Icon window doesn't appear. > > > > lep pozdrav > > > > doc. dr. Branislav ?MITEK > UMb FAKULTETA ZA ORGANIZACIJSKE VEDE > Kidri?eva cesta 55/a > 4000 KRANJ > > tel: 04 237 42 63 > fax: 04 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:41 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard > > > > Sounds like you?re not loading the data for the wizrd. What does it say on > the LO icon for templateData? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Brane ?mitek > *Sent:* 30 October 2012 07:50 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Desktop Xerte doesn't start page wizard > > > > I have made xerte project. I've used it in moodle. > > I changed the name of the interface icon to module: > > Mentioned name is more suitable for our students (slovenian language). > > I also made my own engine_sv-SV.xml and change language-config.xml. > > Everythings in Moodle and standalone work without problem. > > After changing interface to module xerte doesn't open page wizard anymore. > > When I click the page icon xerte window disappears and xerte stops. > > Now I can't do any changes in my project. New Page Wizard starts without > any problem. > > i attached my project files. > > > > Kind regards > > Branislav SMITEK Ph.D. > University of Maribor > FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES > Kidriceva cesta 55/a > SI4000 KRANJ > SLOVENIA > > tel: +386 4 237 42 63 > fax: +386 4 237 42 99 > e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Brilliant. >> >> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell >> *Sent:* 30 October 2012 21:17 >> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Importing LO >> >> I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside >> the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get >> the import to work? It does for me. >> >> Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of >> the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove >> any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping >> the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett >> *Sent:* 30 October 2012 20:23 >> *To:* Xerte list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Importing LO >> >> OK, here is what I am doing. >> >> - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. >> >> - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop >> >> - Highlight Workspace >> >> - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. >> >> - Upload. >> >> Counts up to 100% then throws this message: >> >> "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not >> within another folder in the zip." >> >> No change appears in the Workspace tree. >> >> Ideas? >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Oct 31 10:36:34 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:36:34 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO In-Reply-To: <5090FE4E.909@tor.nl> References: , , , , , , , , , <00e301cdb6aa$6b81d9e0$42858da0$@co.uk>, , <018001cdb6e3$d8aa6710$89ff3530$@co.uk>, <79F36DCF1B3589429DDB4BB689DBFCDA0202A9@DB3PRD0104MB104.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>, <50904ABE.9050602@tor.nl>, <5090FE4E.909@tor.nl> Message-ID: Thanks Tom. It's a wonder we haven't heard about this one till now? Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:32:46 +0100 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO Removed the check on levels of folders. Included the fixed file (should be in website_code/php/import) I'll put it on svn later today. Tom Op 30-10-2012 22:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: I'll investigate, and I'll fix this. It should just work without having to modify the .zip Op 30-10-2012 22:30, Davidson, Andrew schreef: Deleting wizards folder worked for me too ? thanks Ron. But wondering why this happens. Well, anyway, it works dammit. Brilliant. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 30 October 2012 21:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LO I know you shouldn't need to but if you have a wizards folder inside the zip try deleting that and then try importing again - dod that get the import to work? It does for me. Also if you've been testing the xenith code so that's also part of the zip remove common_html5 and models_html5 too. Basically remove any folder that contains a subfolder - I think that's what's tripping the import and they those folders don't get used by the import anyway. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 30 October 2012 20:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Importing LO OK, here is what I am doing. - Highlight LO that has been created in the root of Workspace. - Properties > Export Get Archive Zip //puts valid zip on desktop - Highlight Workspace - Properties > Import >choose zip that was downloaded to desktop. - Upload. Counts up to 100% then throws this message: "The files in your zip folder need to be in the main folder, not within another folder in the zip." No change appears in the Workspace tree. Ideas? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Dave Foord A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd www.a6training.co.uk 07922115678 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 10:38:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:38:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Morph image template In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, edit the zoom regions in the editor. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Foord Sent: 31 October 2012 10:29 To: Xerte Mailing List Subject: [Xerte] Morph image template With xerte online toolkits - if I use the morph image option, the morphing takes place (e.g. the focus of the zoom) from the left hand corner of the image. Is it possible for the focus to take place at a different point in the image? Dave Foord A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd www.a6training.co.uk 07922115678 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From dave at a6training.co.uk Wed Oct 31 10:44:39 2012 From: dave at a6training.co.uk (Dave Foord) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:44:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Morph image template In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <287EF363-269E-466C-A7AC-C0BC1CBA7F52@a6training.co.uk> I can see the setting for 'zoom speed' but how do I edit the zoom regions? Thanks in advance. Dave Foord A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd www.a6training.co.uk 07922115678 On 31 Oct 2012, at 10:38, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, edit the zoom regions in the editor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Foord > Sent: 31 October 2012 10:29 > To: Xerte Mailing List > Subject: [Xerte] Morph image template > > With xerte online toolkits - if I use the morph image option, the morphing takes place (e.g. the focus of the zoom) from the left hand corner of the image. Is it possible for the focus to take place at a different point in the image? > > Dave Foord > A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd > www.a6training.co.uk > 07922115678 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From dave at a6training.co.uk Wed Oct 31 10:46:50 2012 From: dave at a6training.co.uk (Dave Foord) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:46:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Morph image template In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0D8B544C-6A35-42A9-B6A8-24A6C9881BC8@a6training.co.uk> Ok - I have found the zoom region. This works really nicely for me creating anatomical resources. Dave Foord A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd www.a6training.co.uk 07922115678 On 31 Oct 2012, at 10:38, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, edit the zoom regions in the editor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Foord > Sent: 31 October 2012 10:29 > To: Xerte Mailing List > Subject: [Xerte] Morph image template > > With xerte online toolkits - if I use the morph image option, the morphing takes place (e.g. the focus of the zoom) from the left hand corner of the image. Is it possible for the focus to take place at a different point in the image? > > Dave Foord > A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd > www.a6training.co.uk > 07922115678 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 11:05:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:05:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Morph image template In-Reply-To: <0D8B544C-6A35-42A9-B6A8-24A6C9881BC8@a6training.co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA977@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <0D8B544C-6A35-42A9-B6A8-24A6C9881BC8@a6training.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3FEDA9C6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That was the original use case / request. People have found interesting things to do with it like show labelled and unlabelled versions of the same diagram, so the images don't zoom anywhere, but the effect is a transition showing / hiding the labels. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Foord Sent: 31 October 2012 10:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Morph image template Ok - I have found the zoom region. This works really nicely for me creating anatomical resources. Dave Foord A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd www.a6training.co.uk 07922115678 On 31 Oct 2012, at 10:38, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, edit the zoom regions in the editor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Foord > Sent: 31 October 2012 10:29 > To: Xerte Mailing List > Subject: [Xerte] Morph image template > > With xerte online toolkits - if I use the morph image option, the morphing takes place (e.g. the focus of the zoom) from the left hand corner of the image. Is it possible for the focus to take place at a different point in the image? > > Dave Foord > A6 Training and Consultancy Ltd > www.a6training.co.uk > 07922115678 > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From aread at marjon.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 14:31:55 2012 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:31:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xenith - HTML5 Example Project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Fay et al Just wondering if there is a beta release of the Xenith code available anywhere as I'm itching to have a go at outputting some content in the new HTML5 interface?! Kind regards Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open) Senior e-Learning Technologist University College Plymouth St Mark & St John ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Fay Cross [Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 12 October 2012 15:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xenith - HTML5 Example Project Hello On Wednesday at the Xerte Project AGM we demonstrated the work we have done for the Xenith project - the new HTML5 interface for projects created in Toolkits. Although it?s not quite ready to be added to installations yet you can see an example of a project viewed with the new interface here. It isn?t finished and I know there?s a fair amount of work still to do (30+ more page types to be developed, more testing on various mobile devices etc.) but we are likely to release a version of it that you can add to your 1.8 installations of Toolkits in the next few weeks so you can try it with your own projects. Thanks to everyone who has given me feedback over the last couple of days at the conference, I?ve fixed some of the bugs you let me know about but there?s still a list of many more I?ve yet to sort out! Any more feedback?s welcome. Thanks Fay This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Acting Principal: Karen Cook A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 7635609 From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 15:05:18 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:05:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." For example, see: http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? Thanks Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Faculty of Health & Life Science Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root folder (the loader hangs if it can't find it) On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > MIME types? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working > > unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get a >> new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue progress >> bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >> >> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >> >> >> IPage.com is my web host >> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to specs) >> Tried a variety of browsers >> >> >> Thanks, >> Pete >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 31 15:12:34 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:12:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello, The plugin doesn't work on multisite, well I couldn't make it work on multisite (and I wrote it). I thought I had changed the plugin page to say this, apologies if not. It might be possible to get it to work with multisite, given some re-coding, but last time I tried it was problematic. I might be able to write a multisite version separately. How important is it / can you code / help? Thanks Pat On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > > I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." > > For example, see: > http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ > > Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? > > Thanks > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Faculty of Health & Life Science > Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root folder (the loader hangs if it can't find it) > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> MIME types? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >> >> can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working >> >> unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work >> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >>> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get a >>> new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue progress >>> bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >>> >>> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >>> >>> >>> IPage.com is my web host >>> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to specs) >>> Tried a variety of browsers >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pete >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 16:12:40 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:12:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17A0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi Pat Can't see anything on the plugin page about not working with Multisite (but no probs - I found it on this list) My coding is no good I'm afraid (I do a little html and css, that's all) so the only help I can really offer is with testing, I suppose. It is not desperately urgent but I have several multisite networks and it would be great if the students and lecturers on those sites could easily make resources with Xerte. If I were to make a standalone site (i.e. not with multisite) and install the Xerte Online plugin there, could I create learning objects on that site and copy the iframe code or wordpress shortcode across to sites on the multisite network? Would that work? Thanks Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Faculty of Health & Life Science Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 31 October 2012 15:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message Hello, The plugin doesn't work on multisite, well I couldn't make it work on multisite (and I wrote it). I thought I had changed the plugin page to say this, apologies if not. It might be possible to get it to work with multisite, given some re-coding, but last time I tried it was problematic. I might be able to write a multisite version separately. How important is it / can you code / help? Thanks Pat On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > > I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." > > For example, see: > http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ > > Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? > > Thanks > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Faculty of Health & Life Science > Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root folder > (the loader hangs if it can't find it) > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> MIME types? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >> >> can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working >> >> unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work >> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >>> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get a >>> new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue progress >>> bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >>> >>> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >>> >>> >>> IPage.com is my web host >>> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to specs) >>> Tried a variety of browsers >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pete >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 31 16:20:32 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:20:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17A0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17A0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello, Lincoln Uni asked about making it multisite but the path code is really complicated and adding in "i am a multisite" to the scripts made the logic break. A multisite-special plugin would get round that. I am in wordpress land tonight fixing another plugin, so i might give a multisite another try. Short term 2 options Install Xerte Online Toolkits - it is mysql and PHP based so works on the same tech as WordPress or build all your XOT LOs on one single install and then use iframes to post them elsewhere - the shortcodes won't work though if you use them (on the basis the shortcode is an id number, not a url [have forgotten]). Pat On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Hi Pat > > Can't see anything on the plugin page about not working with Multisite (but no probs - I found it on this list) > > My coding is no good I'm afraid (I do a little html and css, that's all) so the only help I can really offer is with testing, I suppose. > > It is not desperately urgent but I have several multisite networks and it would be great if the students and lecturers on those sites could easily make resources with Xerte. > > If I were to make a standalone site (i.e. not with multisite) and install the Xerte Online plugin there, could I create learning objects on that site and copy the iframe code or wordpress shortcode across to sites on the multisite network? Would that work? > > Thanks > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Faculty of Health & Life Science > Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 31 October 2012 15:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > Hello, > > The plugin doesn't work on multisite, well I couldn't make it work on multisite (and I wrote it). > > I thought I had changed the plugin page to say this, apologies if not. > > It might be possible to get it to work with multisite, given some re-coding, but last time I tried it was problematic. I might be able to write a multisite version separately. How important is it / can you code / help? > > Thanks > > Pat > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> >> I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." >> >> For example, see: >> http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ >> >> Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Faculty of Health & Life Science >> Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >> >> no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root folder >> (the loader hangs if it can't find it) >> >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> MIME types? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >>> >>> can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working >>> >>> unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius >>> wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >>>> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get a >>>> new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue progress >>>> bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >>>> >>>> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >>>> >>>> >>>> IPage.com is my web host >>>> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to specs) >>>> Tried a variety of browsers >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 16:31:46 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:31:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17A0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17F2@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi Pat A multisite plugin would be wonderful but the short term fix of "build all your XOT LOs on one single install and then use iframes to post them" on the multisite network will be fine for me at the moment. Thanks for your help. Greatly appreciated! Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Faculty of Health & Life Science Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 31 October 2012 16:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message Hello, Lincoln Uni asked about making it multisite but the path code is really complicated and adding in "i am a multisite" to the scripts made the logic break. A multisite-special plugin would get round that. I am in wordpress land tonight fixing another plugin, so i might give a multisite another try. Short term 2 options Install Xerte Online Toolkits - it is mysql and PHP based so works on the same tech as WordPress or build all your XOT LOs on one single install and then use iframes to post them elsewhere - the shortcodes won't work though if you use them (on the basis the shortcode is an id number, not a url [have forgotten]). Pat On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Hi Pat > > Can't see anything on the plugin page about not working with Multisite > (but no probs - I found it on this list) > > My coding is no good I'm afraid (I do a little html and css, that's all) so the only help I can really offer is with testing, I suppose. > > It is not desperately urgent but I have several multisite networks and it would be great if the students and lecturers on those sites could easily make resources with Xerte. > > If I were to make a standalone site (i.e. not with multisite) and install the Xerte Online plugin there, could I create learning objects on that site and copy the iframe code or wordpress shortcode across to sites on the multisite network? Would that work? > > Thanks > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Faculty of Health & Life Science > Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 31 October 2012 15:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > Hello, > > The plugin doesn't work on multisite, well I couldn't make it work on multisite (and I wrote it). > > I thought I had changed the plugin page to say this, apologies if not. > > It might be possible to get it to work with multisite, given some re-coding, but last time I tried it was problematic. I might be able to write a multisite version separately. How important is it / can you code / help? > > Thanks > > Pat > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> >> I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." >> >> For example, see: >> http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ >> >> Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Faculty of Health & Life Science >> Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >> >> no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root >> folder (the loader hangs if it can't find it) >> >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> MIME types? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >>> >>> can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working >>> >>> unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius >>> wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >>>> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get >>>> a new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue >>>> progress bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >>>> >>>> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >>>> >>>> >>>> IPage.com is my web host >>>> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to >>>> specs) Tried a variety of browsers >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or >>>> in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author >>>> of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications >>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Oct 31 16:54:43 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:54:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17F2@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C119@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA1697@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17A0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C83905DA17F2@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Will update tomorrow with changes On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Hi Pat > > A multisite plugin would be wonderful but the short term fix of "build all your XOT LOs on one single install and then use iframes to post them" on the multisite network will be fine for me at the moment. > > Thanks for your help. Greatly appreciated! > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Faculty of Health & Life Science > Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 31 October 2012 16:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message > > Hello, > > Lincoln Uni asked about making it multisite but the path code is really complicated and adding in "i am a multisite" to the scripts made the logic break. A multisite-special plugin would get round that. > I am in wordpress land tonight fixing another plugin, so i might give a multisite another try. > > Short term 2 options > > Install Xerte Online Toolkits - it is mysql and PHP based so works on the same tech as WordPress > > or > > build all your XOT LOs on one single install and then use iframes to post them elsewhere - the shortcodes won't work though if you use them (on the basis the shortcode is an id number, not a url [have forgotten]). > > Pat > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Hi Pat >> >> Can't see anything on the plugin page about not working with Multisite >> (but no probs - I found it on this list) >> >> My coding is no good I'm afraid (I do a little html and css, that's all) so the only help I can really offer is with testing, I suppose. >> >> It is not desperately urgent but I have several multisite networks and it would be great if the students and lecturers on those sites could easily make resources with Xerte. >> >> If I were to make a standalone site (i.e. not with multisite) and install the Xerte Online plugin there, could I create learning objects on that site and copy the iframe code or wordpress shortcode across to sites on the multisite network? Would that work? >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Faculty of Health & Life Science >> Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 31 October 2012 15:13 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >> >> Hello, >> >> The plugin doesn't work on multisite, well I couldn't make it work on multisite (and I wrote it). >> >> I thought I had changed the plugin page to say this, apologies if not. >> >> It might be possible to get it to work with multisite, given some re-coding, but last time I tried it was problematic. I might be able to write a multisite version separately. How important is it / can you code / help? >> >> Thanks >> >> Pat >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >>> >>> I'm trying to use the Xerte Online Wordpress plugin but it hangs with a message saying "Loading XML..." >>> >>> For example, see: >>> http://olihaslam.com/sample-page/ >>> >>> Is it because I am using Wordpress Multisite? If so, any suggestions how I can get it to work with Multisite? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Faculty of Health & Life Science >>> Departments of Psychology & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 06 August 2012 10:25 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >>> >>> no, it was the language folder not copying properly to the root >>> folder (the loader hangs if it can't find it) >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>> MIME types? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 03 August 2012 21:18 >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: WordPress Plugin "Loading XML..." Message >>>> >>>> can you send me a link - sounds like a file isn't working >>>> >>>> unless you're using multisite, then it doesn't work >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Peter Pretorius >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I installed today the WordPress XOT plugin that Pat put together. >>>>> Unfortunately, when I try to preview or publish, within XOT, I get >>>>> a new tab window, with the Loading XML... message and a blue >>>>> progress bar, and the page simply stalls with that displayed. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone encountered this issue before? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IPage.com is my web host >>>>> WordPress is version compatible with the Plugin (according to >>>>> specs) Tried a variety of browsers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>>> immediately delete it. 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