From panke at sog.unc.edu Wed Feb 1 22:52:03 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:52:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Glossar Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hello! I am looking at ways to use Xerte 2.17 for designing a Web course and have a few questions: 1. How can I build a glossary unsing Xerte 2.17? 2. Is there any way to build a glossary if I use a template? 3. Should I be using the 2.17 version in the first place or switch to the 3.0 beta? What will be editable on the long run? I am very excited about the software and I think it is great to have an open source project that focuses on accessibility and rich hypermedia - especially since so many commercial applications seem to emulate Powerpoint with voiceover. I also write for the Educational Technology and Change Journal and would like to do an e-mail interview with someone from the developer group, particularly on Xerte & Open Educational Resources. Best, Stefanie [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 01 February 2012 22:52 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Glossar Hello! I am looking at ways to use Xerte 2.17 for designing a Web course and have a few questions: 1. How can I build a glossary unsing Xerte 2.17? 2. Is there any way to build a glossary if I use a template? 3. Should I be using the 2.17 version in the first place or switch to the 3.0 beta? What will be editable on the long run? I am very excited about the software and I think it is great to have an open source project that focuses on accessibility and rich hypermedia - especially since so many commercial applications seem to emulate Powerpoint with voiceover. I also write for the Educational Technology and Change Journal and would like to do an e-mail interview with someone from the developer group, particularly on Xerte & Open Educational Resources. Best, Stefanie [cid:image001.gif at 01CCE183.F5ECBD40] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It will show you when a file fails to load properly. www.fiddler2.com Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red Pat On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin wrote: > Hi Guys ? apologies if this has been covered before, I?ve had a look in the > list but can?t find anything. > > > > I?ve created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It > works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents > never complete loading. > > > > Other scorms that I?ve downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in > IE, is this something you?ve come across before? > > > > Regards > > Colin Loughlin > > Academic Development Centre > > Kingston University > > ext. 62764 > > +44 (0) 208 417 2764 > > > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Thu Feb 2 11:46:19 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:46:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] change appearance of XOTand LOs Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C82493E9D4B0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi I've been asked to look into how we could change the appearance of our installation of XOT so it is in keeping with the university's 'look and feel'. I suppose we'd want to change the XOT interface to include our logo and colour scheme to start with. Could we also change the default colour scheme of the LOs produced - but keep the options to have the other colour schemes (high contrast etc.) What (stylesheets etc.) would need to be changed? Can anyone provide guidance or point me towards some info on this? 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Could we also change the default colour > scheme of the LOs produced ? but keep the options to have the other colour > schemes (high contrast etc.) > > > > What (stylesheets etc.) would need to be changed? Can anyone provide > guidance or point me towards some info on this? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk Thu Feb 2 12:38:09 2012 From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk (Loughlin, Colin) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:38:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. Thanks again, Colin -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE Hello, Do you have fiddler installed? It will show you when a file fails to load properly. www.fiddler2.com Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red Pat On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin wrote: > Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the > list but can't find anything. > > > > I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It > works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents > never complete loading. > > > > Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in > IE, is this something you've come across before? > > > > Regards > > Colin Loughlin > > Academic Development Centre > > Kingston University > > ext. 62764 > > +44 (0) 208 417 2764 > > > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 12:42:11 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:42:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin wrote: > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. > > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. > > Thanks again, Colin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Hello, > > Do you have fiddler installed? > > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. > > www.fiddler2.com > > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red > > Pat > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin > wrote: >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the >> list but can't find anything. >> >> >> >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents >> never complete loading. >> >> >> >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in >> IE, is this something you've come across before? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin Loughlin >> >> Academic Development Centre >> >> Kingston University >> >> ext. 62764 >> >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 >> >> >> >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> Security System. >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 2 13:02:15 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:02:15 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk>, , <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try turning off any web antivirus and see what happens. rationale:If the new https version has an invalid or no site certificate, it will just stall. > From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:38:09 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. > > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. > > Thanks again, Colin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Hello, > > Do you have fiddler installed? > > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. > > www.fiddler2.com > > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red > > Pat > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin > wrote: > > Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the > > list but can't find anything. > > > > > > > > I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It > > works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents > > never complete loading. > > > > > > > > Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in > > IE, is this something you've come across before? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Colin Loughlin > > > > Academic Development Centre > > > > Kingston University > > > > ext. 62764 > > > > +44 (0) 208 417 2764 > > > > > > > > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > > Security System. > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. 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URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Thu Feb 2 22:02:29 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:02:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there... Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 3 10:10:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:10:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the utton to print the page. Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module What's not working / what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 02 February 2012 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there... Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk Fri Feb 3 14:45:19 2012 From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk (Loughlin, Colin) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:45:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555313F@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Yes, it works locally and in most other browsers, it just fails in every version of IE that I've tried. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 02 February 2012 12:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin wrote: > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. > > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. > > Thanks again, Colin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Hello, > > Do you have fiddler installed? > > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. > > www.fiddler2.com > > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red > > Pat > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin > wrote: >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the >> list but can't find anything. >> >> >> >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents >> never complete loading. >> >> >> >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in >> IE, is this something you've come across before? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin Loughlin >> >> Academic Development Centre >> >> Kingston University >> >> ext. 62764 >> >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 >> >> >> >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> Security System. >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From D.Duret at liverpool.ac.uk Fri Feb 3 14:56:30 2012 From: D.Duret at liverpool.ac.uk (Duret, Denis) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:56:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] MCQ with hints Message-ID: <3A05489678B29544B4D7FD6FB0A0F9FCCAFA2B@BHEXMBX1.livad.liv.ac.uk> Hi, I am struggling to find a way to have an MCQ (4 options one correct answer) with hints. I would like to have for each option, further information but the user will need to choose to have further information for a particular option and then will have to choose the right answer. Is it possible? Thanks. Denis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. > > > > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. > > > > Thanks again, Colin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > > > Hello, > > > > Do you have fiddler installed? > > > > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. > > > > www.fiddler2.com > > > > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red > > > > Pat > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin > > wrote: > >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the > >> list but can't find anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It > >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents > >> never complete loading. > >> > >> > >> > >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in > >> IE, is this something you've come across before? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Colin Loughlin > >> > >> Academic Development Centre > >> > >> Kingston University > >> > >> ext. 62764 > >> > >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > >> Security System. > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > >> > >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >> attachment. 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URL: From C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk Fri Feb 3 15:11:11 2012 From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk (Loughlin, Colin) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:11:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk>, , <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk>, , <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555313F@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555316A@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Yes, and my PC is apparently now at serious risk :) The odd thing is that scorms from other sources work okay with IE as well. I just wondered if anyone has a simple scorm that they've generated from an https installation of Xerte that I can test. Regards, Colin From: Dave Burnett [mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2012 15:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE Tried setting security to lowest level in IE? > From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:45:19 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Yes, it works locally and in most other browsers, it just fails in every version of IE that I've tried. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 02 February 2012 12:42 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin > wrote: > > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. > > > > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. > > > > Thanks again, Colin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > > > Hello, > > > > Do you have fiddler installed? > > > > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. > > > > www.fiddler2.com > > > > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red > > > > Pat > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin > > wrote: > >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the > >> list but can't find anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It > >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents > >> never complete loading. > >> > >> > >> > >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in > >> IE, is this something you've come across before? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Colin Loughlin > >> > >> Academic Development Centre > >> > >> Kingston University > >> > >> ext. 62764 > >> > >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > >> Security System. > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >> attachment. 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I > just wondered if anyone has a simple scorm that they?ve generated from an > https installation of Xerte that I can test. > > > > Regards, Colin > > > > From: Dave Burnett [mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 03 February 2012 15:06 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > > > > > Tried setting security to lowest level in IE? > > > > > >> From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:45:19 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> >> Yes, it works locally and in most other browsers, it just fails in every >> version of IE that I've tried. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 02 February 2012 12:42 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> >> hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin >> wrote: >> > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure >> > client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A >> > connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly >> > respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because >> > connected host has failed to respond. < A connection attempt failed because >> > the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or >> > established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. >> > >> > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing might >> > be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code doesn't mean much to >> > me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. >> > >> > Thanks again, Colin >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Do you have fiddler installed? >> > >> > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. >> > >> > www.fiddler2.com >> > >> > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear red >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin >> > wrote: >> >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in >> >> the >> >> list but can't find anything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. >> >> It >> >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but >> >> contents >> >> never complete loading. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay >> >> in >> >> IE, is this something you've come across before? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Colin Loughlin >> >> >> >> Academic Development Centre >> >> >> >> Kingston University >> >> >> >> ext. 62764 >> >> >> >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> >> Security System. >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> >> and >> >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >> >> in >> >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >> >> not >> >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> >> any >> >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >> >> do >> >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> >> attachment >> >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> >> system: >> >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 3 15:47:44 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:47:44 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555313F@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555316A@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00dd01cce28b$2dedea40$89c9bec0$@co.uk> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/scorm_export_test.zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 03 February 2012 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE Has anyone got a SCORM zip (small) that I can download so I can fiddler it? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Loughlin, Colin wrote: > Yes, and my PC is apparently now at serious risk J > > > > The odd thing is that scorms from other sources work okay with IE as > well. I just wondered if anyone has a simple scorm that they?ve > generated from an https installation of Xerte that I can test. > > > > Regards, Colin > > > > From: Dave Burnett [mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 03 February 2012 15:06 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > > > > > Tried setting security to lowest level in IE? > > > > > >> From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:45:19 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> >> Yes, it works locally and in most other browsers, it just fails in >> every version of IE that I've tried. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> Sent: 02 February 2012 12:42 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> >> hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin >> wrote: >> > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure >> > client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport >> > connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party >> > did not properly respond after a period of time, or established >> > connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A >> > connection attempt failed because the connected party did not >> > properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. >> > >> > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing >> > might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code >> > doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. >> > >> > Thanks again, Colin >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >> > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Do you have fiddler installed? >> > >> > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. >> > >> > www.fiddler2.com >> > >> > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear >> > red >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin >> > wrote: >> >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a >> >> look in the list but can't find anything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. >> >> It >> >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens >> >> but contents never complete loading. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work >> >> okay in IE, is this something you've come across before? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Colin Loughlin >> >> >> >> Academic Development Centre >> >> >> >> Kingston University >> >> >> >> ext. 62764 >> >> >> >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs >> >> Email Security System. >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Feb 3 16:35:58 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:35:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE In-Reply-To: <00dd01cce28b$2dedea40$89c9bec0$@co.uk> References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B016075552A7D@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555313F@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607555316A@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> <00dd01cce28b$2dedea40$89c9bec0$@co.uk> Message-ID: loads up on a localhost and the only 404 I see (bar the odd little one that always appears) is our friend CharPad.swf IE7 on XP On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/scorm_export_test.zip > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 03 February 2012 15:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE > > Has anyone got a SCORM zip (small) that I can download so I can fiddler it? > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Loughlin, Colin > wrote: >> Yes, and my PC is apparently now at serious risk J >> >> >> >> The odd thing is that scorms from other sources work okay with IE as >> well. I just wondered if anyone has a simple scorm that they?ve >> generated from an https installation of Xerte that I can test. >> >> >> >> Regards, Colin >> >> >> >> From: Dave Burnett [mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] >> Sent: 03 February 2012 15:06 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >> >> >> >> >> >> Tried setting security to lowest level in IE? >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:45:19 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >>> >>> Yes, it works locally and in most other browsers, it just fails in >>> every version of IE that I've tried. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >>> Sent: 02 February 2012 12:42 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >>> >>> hmmm, Try playing the SCORM locally? >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Loughlin, Colin >>> wrote: >>> > Hi Pat - thanks for that. It's generated this: 12:28:06:4062 Secure >>> > client pipe failed: Unable to read data from the transport >>> > connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party >>> > did not properly respond after a period of time, or established >>> > connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. < A >>> > connection attempt failed because the connected party did not >>> > properly respond after a period of time, or established connection > failed because connected host has failed to respond. >>> > >>> > Our new installation of BB9 is running on https which I'm guessing >>> > might be part of the problem - but I'm afraid the above code >>> > doesn't mean much to me so I'll pass it over to out IT guys. >>> > >>> > Thanks again, Colin >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Pat Lockley [mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] >>> > Sent: 02 February 2012 10:15 >>> > To: Xerte discussion list >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > Do you have fiddler installed? >>> > >>> > It will show you when a file fails to load properly. >>> > >>> > www.fiddler2.com >>> > >>> > Run it before the scorm object loads - then see if any lines appear >>> > red >>> > >>> > Pat >>> > >>> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Loughlin, Colin >>> > wrote: >>> >> Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a >>> >> look in the list but can't find anything. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. >>> >> It >>> >> works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens >>> >> but contents never complete loading. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work >>> >> okay in IE, is this something you've come across before? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> Colin Loughlin >>> >> >>> >> Academic Development Centre >>> >> >>> >> Kingston University >>> >> >>> >> ext. 62764 >>> >> >>> >> +44 (0) 208 417 2764 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs >>> >> Email Security System. >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Fri Feb 3 17:05:58 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:05:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: change appearance of XOTand LOs In-Reply-To: References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C82493E9D4B0@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C8249412E8B6@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks for your help Pat. Much appreciated. _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 February 2012 11:52 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: change appearance of XOTand LOs you can change some of the logos in management.php (for the editor and login pages) On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Hi > > > > I've been asked to look into how we could change the appearance of our > installation of XOT so it is in keeping with the university's 'look > and feel'. I suppose we'd want to change the XOT interface to include > our logo and colour scheme to start with. Could we also change the > default colour scheme of the LOs produced - but keep the options to > have the other colour schemes (high contrast etc.) > > > > What (stylesheets etc.) would need to be changed? Can anyone provide > guidance or point me towards some info on this? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Oli > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 3 18:12:15 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:12:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the utton to print the page. Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module What's not working / what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 02 February 2012 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there... Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 3 18:33:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:33:07 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <011b01cce2a2$4885f660$d991e320$@co.uk> Re the Robin Hood example try the same screen size option on this version: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_264 I think you'll find it's not working on the Equella link because of the way it's embedded in the page. If you're viewing a published project on a local drive or USB you need to make sure the flash security settings allows that drive/folder as a trusted location. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 03 February 2012 18:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_P age_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cba e6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the utton to print the page. Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module What's not working / what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 02 February 2012 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there. Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 3 20:03:14 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 20:03:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <011b01cce2a2$4885f660$d991e320$@co.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <011b01cce2a2$4885f660$d991e320$@co.uk> Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E68520@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hi Ron, Thanks, that helps! I do understand that the different page embed codes explains the differences in the two Robin Hood displays (though I have not figured out where the error is) - but that definitely makes sense now. However, with my own project, all I do is click on File > Publish and open the resulting index.htm. So I still don't understand what I am doing wrong or could be doing differently to avoid the problem. Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 1:33 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Re the Robin Hood example try the same screen size option on this version: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_264 I think you'll find it's not working on the Equella link because of the way it's embedded in the page. If you're viewing a published project on a local drive or USB you need to make sure the flash security settings allows that drive/folder as a trusted location. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 03 February 2012 18:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've allowed C:\ but more secure to use a specific path/folder. cid:image001.jpg at 01CCE1B2.CCE28F90 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 03 February 2012 20:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi Ron, Thanks, that helps! I do understand that the different page embed codes explains the differences in the two Robin Hood displays (though I have not figured out where the error is) - but that definitely makes sense now. However, with my own project, all I do is click on File > Publish and open the resulting index.htm. So I still don't understand what I am doing wrong or could be doing differently to avoid the problem. Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 1:33 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Re the Robin Hood example try the same screen size option on this version: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_264 I think you'll find it's not working on the Equella link because of the way it's embedded in the page. If you're viewing a published project on a local drive or USB you need to make sure the flash security settings allows that drive/folder as a trusted location. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 03 February 2012 18:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_P age_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cba e6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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There are even a few pages that are not currently available in pageTemplates e.g. the routed pages that let you define one or more destinations that the learner can be taken to when they exit the page. Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte release. Page Wizards are a great way to learn more about how to create your own Xerte page designs, but you might want to hold back from creating any live projects with them as they will become effectively obsolete with the next release of Xerte. If you have created any Page Wizard based projects they will continue to work. But the next release of Xerte will include individual page templates, as well as all the features you are already used to, Effectively the Page Wizard approach is being incorporated into desktop Xerte. This will offer significant improvements to the ease of use of the current Page Wizards - automatic folder creation, thumbnails and hints to help with page selection etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 February 2012 18:12, Panke, Stefanie wrote: > Hello Ya?ll, > > First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day ? especially since > this morning, finally, I discovered the ?wizard page package? that allows > me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the > general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. > > Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in > the wiki: > > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf(note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open > fine). > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip > > I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to > place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. > Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add > an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to > use an event handler for that? > > As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can > change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill > window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following > results: > > Default: everything is fine. > > Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. > > Fill window: no change, stays default size. > > Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of > the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to > the default view. > > So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or > interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color > changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: > > > http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp(choose screen size large or larger). > > Best, > > Stefanie > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > > > Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the > utton to print the page. > > > > Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing > to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. > > > > >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they > do not work with my module > > What?s not working / what happens? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Panke, > Stefanie > *Sent:* 02 February 2012 22:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > > > Julian, > > Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create > the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same > logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in > the help file. > > I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, > before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. > Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: > > 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users > the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single > page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather > before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there? Any > hints? > > 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; > however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules > like the ?Sherwood Forest? and it?s the same problem. What am I doing wrong > so that this very useful feature gets disabled? > > Thanks, > > Stefanie > > P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next > week! > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > > > Hi, > > > > There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use > it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: > > > > Glossry.enabled = true; > > Glossary.addTerm(?word?, ?definition?); > > > > Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the > definition is shown. See attached example. > > > > If that?s not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: > I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle > those events and show the terms using your own code. > > > > I?d be very happy to help with your email interview! > > > > Julian > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 05 February 2012 10:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Hi all I've been working on a learning object using the simple Media>Graphic and sound templates. The LO is at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_100 This is the bit that puzzles me - I don't want the image magnifier to show and I haven't select the option. However, the magnifier shows on every page UNLESS I move forward a page and then back a page. The first visit to the page has a magnifier. The second and subsequent pages don't have. Can I check 1) whether others are getting the same effect? (I have this effect on IE, Chrome and FireFox 8 2) what can be done about it? FIRST VISIT TO PAGE SUBSEQUENT VISITS IN SAME SESSION Thanks in advance A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. 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What's not clear is what changed to cause this and when. I imported your LO into the sandpit and the same problem existed there. So then I I created a new LO from scratch with a single graphics and sound page and same problem. Will investigate further but please check and confirm this is fixed? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 05 February 2012 10:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Hi all I've been working on a learning object using the simple Media>Graphic and sound templates. The LO is at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_100 This is the bit that puzzles me - I don't want the image magnifier to show and I haven't select the option. However, the magnifier shows on every page UNLESS I move forward a page and then back a page. The first visit to the page has a magnifier. The second and subsequent pages don't have. Can I check 1) whether others are getting the same effect? (I have this effect on IE, Chrome and FireFox 8 2) what can be done about it? FIRST VISIT TO PAGE [cid:image001.png at 01CCE403.4F6A67B0] SUBSEQUENT VISITS IN SAME SESSION [cid:image002.png at 01CCE403.4F6A67B0] Thanks in advance A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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I imported your LO into the sandpit and the same problem existed there. So then I I created a new LO from scratch with a single graphics and sound page and same problem. Will investigate further but please check and confirm this is fixed? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 05 February 2012 10:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Hi all I've been working on a learning object using the simple Media>Graphic and sound templates. The LO is at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_100 This is the bit that puzzles me - I don't want the image magnifier to show and I haven't select the option. However, the magnifier shows on every page UNLESS I move forward a page and then back a page. The first visit to the page has a magnifier. The second and subsequent pages don't have. Can I check 1) whether others are getting the same effect? (I have this effect on IE, Chrome and FireFox 8 2) what can be done about it? FIRST VISIT TO PAGE [cid:image001.png at 01CCE4B2.8AC798F0] SUBSEQUENT VISITS IN SAME SESSION [cid:image002.png at 01CCE4B2.8AC798F0] Thanks in advance A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 116568 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 09:36:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:36:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2BA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte release. But not because we don't like them... ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 February 2012 11:25 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hello Stefanie, The page wizards were implemented to provide access to both the full Xerte desktop editing environment and all the pages that were available in pageTemplates based projects. There are even a few pages that are not currently available in pageTemplates e.g. the routed pages that let you define one or more destinations that the learner can be taken to when they exit the page. Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte release. Page Wizards are a great way to learn more about how to create your own Xerte page designs, but you might want to hold back from creating any live projects with them as they will become effectively obsolete with the next release of Xerte. If you have created any Page Wizard based projects they will continue to work. But the next release of Xerte will include individual page templates, as well as all the features you are already used to, Effectively the Page Wizard approach is being incorporated into desktop Xerte. This will offer significant improvements to the ease of use of the current Page Wizards - automatic folder creation, thumbnails and hints to help with page selection etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 February 2012 18:12, Panke, Stefanie > wrote: Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the utton to print the page. Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module What's not working / what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 02 February 2012 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there... Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 09:58:59 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:58:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Add an entry frame to the interface icon, and build your print button in there. Any content in a framework's entry frame is visible on each page in the framework. Generally, if you find yourself repeating code, you're doing something wrong. In terms of the actual print, are you looking to just print the screen, or something more complex? You can build a new PrintJob and then add items to it to create a completely custom printout, but it can get a bit tricky. If print screen works for you, that's much easier. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 03 February 2012 18:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hello Ya'll, First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day - especially since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in the wiki: http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open fine). http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following results: Default: everything is fine. Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. Fill window: no change, stays default size. Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to the default view. So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp (choose screen size large or larger). Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the utton to print the page. Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module What's not working / what happens? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 02 February 2012 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Julian, Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in the help file. I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there... Any hints? 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong so that this very useful feature gets disabled? Thanks, Stefanie P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next week! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Glossar Hi, There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: Glossry.enabled = true; Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the definition is shown. See attached example. If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Cuna ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 10:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Hi all I?ve been working on a learning object using the simple Media>Graphic and sound templates. The LO is at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_100 This is the bit that puzzles me ? I don?t want the image magnifier to show and I haven?t select the option. However, the magnifier shows on every page UNLESS I move forward a page and then back a page. The first visit to the page has a magnifier. The second and subsequent pages don?t have. Can I check 1) whether others are getting the same effect? (I have this effect on IE, Chrome and FireFox 8 2) what can be done about it? 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From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 10:14:50 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:14:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> Hi all, A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? cheers Julian -- Julian Prior e-Learning Development Officer Division for Lifelong Learning University of Bath Claverton Down Bath BA2 7AY Tel: 01225-383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 10:33:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:33:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can: Keep the folders from the old install Make new learning objects in the new install, Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of the new LOs you just created Update the URLs in moodle. 60 isn't too many, but enough for an hour's work or so. If you've got the two ftp windows open, it's not so bad. I do this quite a bit when I want to move stuff from one owner to another. Pat might have some better automagic way. There aren't any database changes planned, so in the future it should be an 'over the top' update. A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Prior Sent: 06 February 2012 10:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install Hi all, A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? cheers Julian -- Julian Prior e-Learning Development Officer Division for Lifelong Learning University of Bath Claverton Down Bath BA2 7AY Tel: 01225-383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 10:57:02 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:57:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: ...lost track of how often i've answered this.... There are 3 databases changes. 1 of which doesn't do anything (by default it's turned off in the code), the second one (LDAP table) you can run without (it is only really useful if you use multiple ldap hosts - which was supported before, but not quite as nicely), and one table has an index on one column to make the database queries quicker - again - it'll make your database faster, but it doesn't make a difference to it technically working or not. So there is no upgrade path, as you don't need one. I deliberately barely ever changed the database as I didn't want to have to write upgrade scripts for people. So, two options 1) Download 1.7 and run a diff over the two folders. Back up your old site, then copy all of the changed 1.7 files over. 2) Install 1.7 then write some PHP (or just use mysql, if your SQL is good enough) to copy all of the content from the old database tables over into the new database tables (basically a select statement tied to an insert statement). I would do one first, and if you need to do 2. 1 should take about 10-20 minutes. 2 would take more like an hour, maybe less On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > You can: > > > > Keep the folders from the old install > > Make new learning objects in the new install, > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of the new > LOs you just created > > Update the URLs in moodle. > > > > 60 isn?t too many, but enough for an hour?s work or so. If you?ve got the > two ftp windows open, it?s not so bad. I do this quite a bit when I want to > move stuff from one owner to another. > > > > Pat might have some better automagic way. > > > > There aren?t any database changes planned, so in the future it should be an > ?over the top? update. > > > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Prior > Sent: 06 February 2012 10:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer > has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) > there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think > v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are > upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have > upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, > which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to > save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then > update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > -- > Julian Prior > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 10:57:17 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:57:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F2FB20D.3040109@bath.ac.uk> Thanks Julian, that's really helpful and good news - I'll pass it on to our developer. cheers JP > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 10:33 > > You can: > > Keep the folders from the old install > > Make new learning objects in the new install, > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of > the new LOs you just created > > Update the URLs in moodle. > > 60 isn't too many, but enough for an hour's work or so. If you've got > the two ftp windows open, it's not so bad. I do this quite a bit when > I want to move stuff from one owner to another. > > Pat might have some better automagic way. > > There aren't any database changes planned, so in the future it should > be an 'over the top' update. > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > -- > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 6 February 2012 10:14 > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 09:58 > > Add an entry frame to the interface icon, and build your print button > in there. Any content in a framework's entry frame is visible on each > page in the framework. Generally, if you find yourself repeating code, > you're doing something wrong. > > In terms of the actual print, are you looking to just print the > screen, or something more complex? You can build a new PrintJob and > then add items to it to create a completely custom printout, but it > can get a bit tricky. If print screen works for you, that's much easier. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Panke, > Stefanie > *Sent:* 03 February 2012 18:12 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hello Ya'll, > > First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day -- especially > since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" > that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing > functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. > > Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages > in the wiki: > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf > (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files > open fine). > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip > > I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to > place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly > appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? > Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on > every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? > > As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I > can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen > and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get > the following results: > > Default: everything is fine. > > Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. > > Fill window: no change, stays default size. > > Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and > parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page > to return to the default view. > > So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object > or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and > color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the > same issue: > > http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp > (choose screen size large or larger). > > Best, > > Stefanie > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit > the utton to print the page. > > Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the > printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. > > >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module > > What's not working / what happens? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Panke, Stefanie > *Sent:* 02 February 2012 22:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Julian, > > Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to > create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following > the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the > scripting in the help file. > > I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to > resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School > of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: > > 1.Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the > option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a > single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or > rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong > there... Any hints? > > 2.Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like > the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong > so that this very useful feature gets disabled? > > Thanks, > > Stefanie > > P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime > next week! > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hi, > > There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can > use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: > > Glossry.enabled = true; > > Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); > > Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the > definition is shown. See attached example. > > If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom > glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then > you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. > > I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 6 11:05:23 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:05:23 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007c01cce4bf$3b7f80c0$b27e8240$@co.uk> Also it's perfectly possible to upgrade an XOT install without starting with a clean install and arguably much much easier than Moodle upgrades - but yes the familiarization with XOT needed is really no different to the familiarization with Moodle needed. Also in my experience you'd get the answers to issues and questions with a XOT upgrade far quicker via this mailing list than you would with similar issues via Moodle forums etc. If you really wanted to start with a clean install you could potentially move some tables about between the two installs rather than manually export and import LO's but then if you have that skillset you'd be better moving the differences between the clean install to the old install to ensue everything still works as it does now e.g. no change of links etc. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 06 February 2012 10:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install You can: Keep the folders from the old install Make new learning objects in the new install, Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of the new LOs you just created Update the URLs in moodle. 60 isn't too many, but enough for an hour's work or so. If you've got the two ftp windows open, it's not so bad. I do this quite a bit when I want to move stuff from one owner to another. Pat might have some better automagic way. There aren't any database changes planned, so in the future it should be an 'over the top' update. A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Prior Sent: 06 February 2012 10:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install Hi all, A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? cheers Julian -- Julian Prior e-Learning Development Officer Division for Lifelong Learning University of Bath Claverton Down Bath BA2 7AY Tel: 01225-383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 11:06:50 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:06:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F2FB44A.2000707@bath.ac.uk> Thanks Pat! Have forwarded this on to our developer . . . cheers JP > Pat Lockley > 6 February 2012 10:57 > ...lost track of how often i've answered this.... > > There are 3 databases changes. 1 of which doesn't do anything (by > default it's turned off in the code), the second one (LDAP table) you > can run without (it is only really useful if you use multiple ldap > hosts - which was supported before, but not quite as nicely), and one > table has an index on one column to make the database queries quicker > - again - it'll make your database faster, but it doesn't make a > difference to it technically working or not. > > So there is no upgrade path, as you don't need one. I deliberately > barely ever changed the database as I didn't want to have to write > upgrade scripts for people. > > So, two options > > 1) Download 1.7 and run a diff over the two folders. Back up your old > site, then copy all of the changed 1.7 files over. > 2) Install 1.7 then write some PHP (or just use mysql, if your SQL is > good enough) to copy all of the content from the old database tables > over into the new database tables (basically a select statement tied > to an insert statement). > > I would do one first, and if you need to do 2. > > 1 should take about 10-20 minutes. > 2 would take more like an hour, maybe less > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 10:33 > > You can: > > Keep the folders from the old install > > Make new learning objects in the new install, > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of > the new LOs you just created > > Update the URLs in moodle. > > 60 isn?t too many, but enough for an hour?s work or so. If you?ve got > the two ftp windows open, it?s not so bad. I do this quite a bit when > I want to move stuff from one owner to another. > > Pat might have some better automagic way. > > There aren?t any database changes planned, so in the future it should > be an ?over the top? update. > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > -- > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 6 February 2012 10:14 > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 09:58 > > Add an entry frame to the interface icon, and build your print button > in there. Any content in a framework?s entry frame is visible on each > page in the framework. Generally, if you find yourself repeating code, > you?re doing something wrong. > > In terms of the actual print, are you looking to just print the > screen, or something more complex? You can build a new PrintJob and > then add items to it to create a completely custom printout, but it > can get a bit tricky. If print screen works for you, that?s much easier. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Panke, > Stefanie > *Sent:* 03 February 2012 18:12 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hello Ya?ll, > > First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day ? especially > since this morning, finally, I discovered the ?wizard page package? > that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing > functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. > > Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages > in the wiki: > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf > (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files > open fine). > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip > > I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to > place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly > appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? > Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on > every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? > > As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I > can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen > and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get > the following results: > > Default: everything is fine. > > Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. > > Fill window: no change, stays default size. > > Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and > parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page > to return to the default view. > > So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object > or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and > color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the > same issue: > > http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp > (choose screen size large or larger). > > Best, > > Stefanie > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit > the utton to print the page. > > Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the > printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. > > >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module > > What?s not working / what happens? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Panke, Stefanie > *Sent:* 02 February 2012 22:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Julian, > > Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to > create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following > the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the > scripting in the help file. > > I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to > resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School > of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: > > 1.Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the > option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a > single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or > rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong > there? Any hints? > > 2.Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like > the ?Sherwood Forest? and it?s the same problem. What am I doing wrong > so that this very useful feature gets disabled? > > Thanks, > > Stefanie > > P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime > next week! > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hi, > > There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can > use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: > > Glossry.enabled = true; > > Glossary.addTerm(?word?, ?definition?); > > Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the > definition is shown. See attached example. > > If that?s not quite the way you want it you could build a custom > glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then > you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. > > I?d be very happy to help with your email interview! > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: postbox-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1186 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 11:09:40 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:09:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <4F2FB44A.2000707@bath.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FB44A.2000707@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: Also, I think the SVN has an RSS feed, and we have a developer email list which is very low traffic when not testing WordPress plugins or discussing toppie. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Julian Prior wrote: > Thanks Pat! Have forwarded this on to our developer . . . > > cheers > > JP > > Pat Lockley > 6 February 2012 10:57 > ...lost track of how often i've answered this.... > > There are 3 databases changes. 1 of which doesn't do anything (by > default it's turned off in the code), the second one (LDAP table) you > can run without (it is only really useful if you use multiple ldap > hosts - which was supported before, but not quite as nicely), and one > table has an index on one column to make the database queries quicker > - again - it'll make your database faster, but it doesn't make a > difference to it technically working or not. > > So there is no upgrade path, as you don't need one. I deliberately > barely ever changed the database as I didn't want to have to write > upgrade scripts for people. > > So, two options > > 1) Download 1.7 and run a diff over the two folders. Back up your old > site, then copy all of the changed 1.7 files over. > 2) Install 1.7 then write some PHP (or just use mysql, if your SQL is > good enough) to copy all of the content from the old database tables > over into the new database tables (basically a select statement tied > to an insert statement). > > I would do one first, and if you need to do 2. > > 1 should take about 10-20 minutes. > 2 would take more like an hour, maybe less > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Julian Tenney > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 10:33 > > You can:**** > > ** ** > > Keep the folders from the old install**** > > Make new learning objects in the new install, **** > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of the > new LOs you just created**** > > Update the URLs in moodle.**** > > ** ** > > 60 isn?t too many, but enough for an hour?s work or so. If you?ve got the > two ftp windows open, it?s not so bad. I do this quite a bit when I want to > move stuff from one owner to another.**** > > ** ** > > Pat might have some better automagic way.**** > > ** ** > > There aren?t any database changes planned, so in the future it should be > an ?over the top? update.**** > > ** ** > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install**** > > ** ** > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer > has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) > there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think > v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are > upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have > upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, > which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to > save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then > update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian**** > > -- > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > **** > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 6 February 2012 10:14 > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our developer > has said (citing http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) > there is no clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think > v 1.5) to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we are > upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently have > upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current install, > which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we would need to > save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new 1.7 install and then > update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 09:58 > > Add an entry frame to the interface icon, and build your print button in > there. Any content in a framework?s entry frame is visible on each page in > the framework. Generally, if you find yourself repeating code, you?re doing > something wrong.**** > > ** ** > > In terms of the actual print, are you looking to just print the screen, or > something more complex? You can build a new PrintJob and then add items to > it to create a completely custom printout, but it can get a bit tricky. If > print screen works for you, that?s much easier.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Panke, Stefanie > > *Sent:* 03 February 2012 18:12 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar**** > > ** ** > > Hello Ya?ll,**** > > First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day ? especially since > this morning, finally, I discovered the ?wizard page package? that allows > me to combine template convenience with the editing functionality which the > general Xerte provides. Pretty cool.**** > > Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages in > the wiki:**** > > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf(note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files open > fine).**** > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip **** > > I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to > place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly appreciated. > Can I include a button in the interface background image? Or should I add > an image, position it and add the script to it on every page? Do I need to > use an event handler for that?**** > > As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I can > change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen and fill > window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get the following > results:**** > > Default: everything is fine.**** > > Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module.**** > > Fill window: no change, stays default size.**** > > Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and parts of > the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page to return to > the default view.**** > > So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object or > interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and color > changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the same issue: > **** > > > http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp(choose screen size large or larger). > **** > > Best,**** > > Stefanie**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > > *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar**** > > ** ** > > Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit the > utton to print the page.**** > > ** ** > > Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the printing > to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky.**** > > ** ** > > >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, they > do not work with my module**** > > What?s not working / what happens?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Panke, > Stefanie > > *Sent:* 02 February 2012 22:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar**** > > ** ** > > Julian,**** > > Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to create > the standard glossary AND include the University logo following the same > logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the scripting in > the help file.**** > > I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to resolve, > before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School of Government. > Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness:**** > > 1. Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users > the option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a single > page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or rather > before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong there? Any > hints?**** > > 2. Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; > however, they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules > like the ?Sherwood Forest? and it?s the same problem. What am I doing wrong > so that this very useful feature gets disabled?**** > > Thanks,**** > > Stefanie**** > > P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime next > week!**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar**** > > ** ** > > Hi,**** > > ** ** > > There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can use > it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions:**** > > ** ** > > Glossry.enabled = true;**** > > Glossary.addTerm(?word?, ?definition?);**** > > ** ** > > Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the > definition is shown. See attached example.**** > > ** ** > > If that?s not quite the way you want it you could build a custom glossary: > I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then you could handle > those events and show the terms using your own code.**** > > ** ** > > I?d be very happy to help with your email interview!**** > > ** ** > > Julian**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 11:29:41 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:29:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install In-Reply-To: <007c01cce4bf$3b7f80c0$b27e8240$@co.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007c01cce4bf$3b7f80c0$b27e8240$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4F2FB9A5.4000409@bath.ac.uk> Many thanks Ron - I'll the list know the outcome! cheers JP > Ron Mitchell > 6 February 2012 11:05 > > Also it's perfectly possible to upgrade an XOT install without > starting with a clean install and arguably much much easier than > Moodle upgrades - but yes the familiarization with XOT needed is > really no different to the familiarization with Moodle needed. Also in > my experience you'd get the answers to issues and questions with a XOT > upgrade far quicker via this mailing list than you would with similar > issues via Moodle forums etc. > > If you really wanted to start with a clean install you could > potentially move some tables about between the two installs rather > than manually export and import LO's but then if you have that > skillset you'd be better moving the differences between the clean > install to the old install to ensue everything still works as it does > now e.g. no change of links etc. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:34 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > You can: > > Keep the folders from the old install > > Make new learning objects in the new install, > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of > the new LOs you just created > > Update the URLs in moodle. > > 60 isn't too many, but enough for an hour's work or so. If you've got > the two ftp windows open, it's not so bad. I do this quite a bit when > I want to move stuff from one owner to another. > > Pat might have some better automagic way. > > There aren't any database changes planned, so in the future it should > be an 'over the top' update. > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > -- > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 10:33 > > You can: > > Keep the folders from the old install > > Make new learning objects in the new install, > > Copy the data.xml and media folders from the old LOs over the top of > the new LOs you just created > > Update the URLs in moodle. > > 60 isn't too many, but enough for an hour's work or so. If you've got > the two ftp windows open, it's not so bad. I do this quite a bit when > I want to move stuff from one owner to another. > > Pat might have some better automagic way. > > There aren't any database changes planned, so in the future it should > be an 'over the top' update. > > A lot of the issues Dave Goodwin noted were fixed. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 10:15 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Upgrading XOT to 1.7 versus a clean install > > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > -- > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Development Officer > Division for Lifelong Learning > University of Bath > Claverton Down > Bath > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225-383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Web: www.bath.ac.uk/lifelong-learning > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 6 February 2012 10:14 > Hi all, > > A quick update on where we are at with our install at Bath. Our > developer has said (citing > http://www.palepurple.co.uk/blog-xerte-online-toolkits) there is no > clear or simple upgrade path from our existing install (I think v 1.5) > to 1.7 and if there is he is currently doesn't have the time to > familiarise himself with what is needed due to other commitments (we > are upgrading to Moodle 2 this summer). > > He has, however, agreed to do a clean install of 1.7 from the SVN. My > question is what would we need to do for this to work - we currently > have upwards of 60 Xerte learning objects created using our current > install, which are embedded into various Moodle courses. Presumably we > would need to save these (how?) and then re-upload them into the new > 1.7 install and then update all the URLs in Moodle? > > cheers > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Tenney > 6 February 2012 09:58 > > Add an entry frame to the interface icon, and build your print button > in there. Any content in a framework's entry frame is visible on each > page in the framework. Generally, if you find yourself repeating code, > you're doing something wrong. > > In terms of the actual print, are you looking to just print the > screen, or something more complex? You can build a new PrintJob and > then add items to it to create a completely custom printout, but it > can get a bit tricky. If print screen works for you, that's much easier. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Panke, > Stefanie > *Sent:* 03 February 2012 18:12 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hello Ya'll, > > First of all: I am liking Xerte more and more every day -- especially > since this morning, finally, I discovered the "wizard page package" > that allows me to combine template convenience with the editing > functionality which the general Xerte provides. Pretty cool. > > Anyone new to Xerte should definitely review the following two pages > in the wiki: > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf > (note that the current version is a dead link, any of the other files > open fine). > > http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Image:JK_PageWizards.zip > > I still have not figured out the printing yet, so any input on how to > place a print button, ideally on each page, would be greatly > appreciated. Can I include a button in the interface background image? > Or should I add an image, position it and add the script to it on > every page? Do I need to use an event handler for that? > > As for the screen size, on the published Web site / Xerte player, I > can change the screen size from default, to large, larger, full screen > and fill window. When I export my learning object as a Web page, I get > the following results: > > Default: everything is fine. > > Full screen: a grey bar appears below the module. > > Fill window: no change, stays default size. > > Large resp. larger: Resizes content area so that the controls and > parts of the content disappear from view. User has to reload the page > to return to the default view. > > So my thought was that I have a faulty setting for the learning object > or interface. All the other accessibility features (i.e., font and > color changes) work fine. The Sherwood Forest Learning Object has the > same issue: > > http://equella.nottingham.ac.uk/uon/items/140dba30-9f66-0853-7252-f47bb62cbae6/1/ViewIMS.jsp > (choose screen size large or larger). > > Best, > > Stefanie > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2012 5:11 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Add you print code to a button on an interaction and have the suer hit > the utton to print the page. > > Dave Burnett has some knowledge / code to share for getting the > printing to work nicely: I seem to remember it being a bit tricky. > > >Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module > > What's not working / what happens? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Panke, Stefanie > *Sent:* 02 February 2012 22:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Julian, > > Thank you very much! The example was very helpful and I was able to > create the standard glossary AND include the University logo following > the same logic. I just did not pay enough attention on how to do the > scripting in the help file. > > I have two more critical issues I hope this list can help me to > resolve, before I can hopefully start a XERTE project for UNC School > of Government. Both have impacts on accessibility / user friendliness: > > 1.Printing: How can I use rootIcon.printScreen(); to offer users the > option to print individual pages? When I add it as a script to a > single page, it automatically launches the default printer while, or > rather before, loading the page. I am apparently doing something wrong > there... Any hints? > > 2.Screen Size: The player offers several screen size options; however, > they do not work with my module. I also tried other Xerte modules like > the "Sherwood Forest" and it's the same problem. What am I doing wrong > so that this very useful feature gets disabled? > > Thanks, > > Stefanie > > P.S. I will work on the interview guide and get it to you sometime > next week! > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of > *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:24 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Glossar > > Hi, > > There is a built in Glossary. It needs to be enabled before you can > use it, and then you can add words to it, with definitions: > > Glossry.enabled = true; > > Glossary.addTerm('word', 'definition'); > > Then, whenever those words are displayed, they are clickable and the > definition is shown. See attached example. > > If that's not quite the way you want it you could build a custom > glossary: I might need to add some events for you to listen to, then > you could handle those events and show the terms using your own code. > > I'd be very happy to help with your email interview! > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte install. Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid url. When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents menu. Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 11:51:00 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:51:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list In-Reply-To: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> References: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> Message-ID: Flash always had a crazy zindex issue , and the embed div definitely uses a high one to get above the flash player. Can't you specify the embed div to be any size? On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is > just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works e.g. > it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has to be > above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte Contents > menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say the benefits > far outweigh that minor issue? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the > templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte > install. > > > > Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I > have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the > published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page > the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. > > > > To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid > url. > > When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents > menu. > > Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. > > Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 11:52:15 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:52:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list In-Reply-To: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> References: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, that's what's happening. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 11:49 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works e.g. it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has to be above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte Contents menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say the benefits far outweigh that minor issue? HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte install. Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid url. When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents menu. Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 12:00:39 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:00:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: You could add a JS call in the "show menu option" to reduce the z-index of the DIV? On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, that?s what?s happening. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 11:49 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is > just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works e.g. > it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has to be > above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte Contents > menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say the benefits > far outweigh that minor issue? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the > templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte > install. > > > > Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I > have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the > published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page > the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. > > > > To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid > url. > > When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents > menu. > > Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. > > Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 6 12:03:09 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:03:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00af01cce4c5$51abb700$f5032500$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C40B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I can live with it :-) I am just reporting back on things I find as I get the pages ready for translation. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 February 2012 11:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Yes, that?s what?s happening. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 11:49 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is > just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works > e.g. it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has > to be above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte > Contents menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say > the benefits far outweigh that minor issue? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 February 2012 11:05 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the > templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte > install. > > > > Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project > I have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the > published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page > the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. > > > > To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a > valid url. > > When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents > menu. > > Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. > > Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 11:49 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works e.g. it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has to be above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte Contents menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say the benefits far outweigh that minor issue? HTHRon From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte install. Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid url. When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents menu.Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Brian Cox taught me that On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > Do the bugs exist before Johnathan observes them? > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:03:09 +0000 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list > > I can live with it :-) > > I am just reporting back on things I find as I get the pages ready for > translation. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 6 February 2012 11:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Yes, that?s what?s happening. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 11:49 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > Someone will probably beat me to this response :-( but I suspect this is > just an unavoidable consequence of the way the embed content page works e.g. > it's creating a browser window above the Xerte Flash window and it has to be > above for it to show whatever is embedded so I suspect the Xerte Contents > menu is still working but below the browser window. But I'd say the benefits > far outweigh that minor issue? > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 06 February 2012 11:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] embedDiv page and missing contents list > > > > I have used the latest version of embedDiv.rlm from the > templates/pageTemplates/models folder of the xerte svn to update my xerte > install. > > > > Both in an individual page template project and in a pageTemplates project I > have found that whilst the embedDiv page works, for some reason when the > published project is viewed in Opera or IE8 when you view the embedDiv page > the xerte contents menu ceases to operate. > > > > To test create a project with a title page and an embedDiv page with a valid > url. > > When viewing the title page you will be able to open the xerte contents > menu. > > Then go to the embedDiv page - now the contents menu will cease to operate. > > Now return to the title page - contents menu works again. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 6 16:30:33 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:30:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] There's a cat in a box in the Interactive Diagram (customHotspots) page and it won't come out! Message-ID: I have found an intransigent little tabby in the customHotspots page. I have spent a couple of hours trying to persuade it to come out but it won't play ball. At this rate I won't make much progress on the translation preparation so I am referring it back to the Xerte list. I am using the model file from the Xerte svn customHotspots.rlm Create a pageTemplates project with a title page and an Interactive Diagram page. Edit the drawing in the Interactive diagram page, add a graphic and give it 3 hotspots. Add a label and info to each of the three hotspots and save the drawing. Set the page's interactivity to MCQ and save your project. Now preview it. Navigate a few times back and forth between the title page and the Interactive Diagram page and on each visit to the Interactive Diagram page look out for the Check button. After two or three returns to the page it has usually disappeared. Which rather takes the edge of the invitation the page offers that "You can retake the quiz at any time" I look forward to finding out what is causing this temperamental behaviour. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 16:32:52 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:32:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO In-Reply-To: <912C7679791B0642BF660D8A6D8842120F73B7A37A@EXSEEDMD.is.ed.ac.uk> References: <912C7679791B0642BF660D8A6D8842120F73B7A37A@EXSEEDMD.is.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Cuna - if you looked at it after Sunday afternoon then I think it proves we've fixed it. There was a file in that Ron updated for the two Xerte installations we use and that has done the trick. Many thanks for responding and confirming that it is now sorted. All the best A -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of EKMEKCIOGLU Cuna Sent: 06 February 2012 09:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Alistair, Your LO looks absolutely fine ( i.e. no magnifier showing) on Firefox 9 and Chrome and works fine when I create an LO with Media>Graphic and sound template as well. Cuna ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 10:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Some odd behavious on Toolkit LO Hi all I've been working on a learning object using the simple Media>Graphic and sound templates. The LO is at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_100 This is the bit that puzzles me - I don't want the image magnifier to show and I haven't select the option. However, the magnifier shows on every page UNLESS I move forward a page and then back a page. The first visit to the page has a magnifier. The second and subsequent pages don't have. Can I check 1) whether others are getting the same effect? (I have this effect on IE, Chrome and FireFox 8 2) what can be done about it? FIRST VISIT TO PAGE [cid:image001.png at 01CCE3F2.D7F85A30] SUBSEQUENT VISITS IN SAME SESSION [cid:image002.png at 01CCE3F3.ACACB6E0] Thanks in advance A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? 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We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 17:11:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:11:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: There's a cat in a box in the Interactive Diagram (customHotspots) page and it won't come out! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A46A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It needs at least 4 otherwise it blows up, I think, I'll check it out, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 February 2012 16:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] There's a cat in a box in the Interactive Diagram (customHotspots) page and it won't come out! I have found an intransigent little tabby in the customHotspots page. I have spent a couple of hours trying to persuade it to come out but it won't play ball. At this rate I won't make much progress on the translation preparation so I am referring it back to the Xerte list. I am using the model file from the Xerte svn customHotspots.rlm Create a pageTemplates project with a title page and an Interactive Diagram page. Edit the drawing in the Interactive diagram page, add a graphic and give it 3 hotspots. Add a label and info to each of the three hotspots and save the drawing. Set the page's interactivity to MCQ and save your project. Now preview it. Navigate a few times back and forth between the title page and the Interactive Diagram page and on each visit to the Interactive Diagram page look out for the Check button. After two or three returns to the page it has usually disappeared. Which rather takes the edge of the invitation the page offers that "You can retake the quiz at any time" I look forward to finding out what is causing this temperamental behaviour. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Mon Feb 6 19:56:42 2012 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:56:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some ways > because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it elsewhere > as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of the > piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, in a > ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into Blackboard, > the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not using > the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no longer relevant > to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the results of > quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export the LOs as > ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload them >> into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track how/if students >> have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes etc. to be interpreted >> by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be even >> better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can now >> create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. Importing/exporting of LOs >> works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile transfer >> has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be even >> better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement that >> creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like exporting and >> importing. Clearly something isn't right with your install and if you don't >> have access to the server yourself you may need to get whoever does to >> subscribe and post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional >> suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths are >> correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting and >> importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the same install >> before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try the sandpit import >> and post further questions if everything but that works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The folder >> should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these support lists >> work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT problems into the >> same email help request. So thanks for all the help so far and for bearing >> with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept only >> for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export issue at >> all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation of XOT: I've >> made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this message: "ERROR: The >> file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any advice >> received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent replies >> hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't currently >> work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. That will be >> fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a way irrelevant at >> the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit and >> import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on your >> new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import that back into >> the same installation. Does that work without the same errors? If it doesn't >> then you need to resolve the issue with your installation and this is >> separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported from >> the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in here so >> any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to pick up the >> answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer the >> LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm having a few >> problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" without >> any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version of XOT okay but >> when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if that >> works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a "SCORM + >> metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit and taken to the >> login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to import >> the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload checkFile transfer >> has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." And can go no >> further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But it >> seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:09:56 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. I've probably missed some important comment in a thread I skimmed too quickly but any pointers as to how to 'redeem' old formulae rich learning objects will be very welcome. Thanks A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy. Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 1355 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 ************************************* From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 6 22:11:19 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:11:19 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. I've probably missed some important comment in a thread I skimmed too quickly but any pointers as to how to 'redeem' old formulae rich learning objects will be very welcome. Thanks A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 1355 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 ************************************* _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Feb 7 07:20:00 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:20:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4F30D0A0.6050701@tor.nl> I didn't have the opportunity to test this, but the \t in \times is probably interpreted as a 'TAB' character. Try \\times. Tom Op 6-2-2012 23:11, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in > front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the > latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) > might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on > the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit > and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new > file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had > replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the > old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only > partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The > formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously > used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you > prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it >> elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> >> >> >> Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of >> the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> >> You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, >> in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> >> >> >> If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a quiz > score. >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> >> >> >> Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not >> totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not >> using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no >> longer relevant to my question.) >> >> >> >> I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export >> the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to achieve > this? >> >> >> Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the >> ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within >> Blackboard? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct. >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >>> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >>> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >>> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >>> >>> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >>> even better... >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >>> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >>> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't work as > 'scorm export'. >>> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >>> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >>> even better... >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >>> line ;-) >>> >>> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >>> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >>> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >>> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >>> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >>> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >>> >>> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >>> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >>> are correct Check the permissions are correct >>> >>> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >>> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >>> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >>> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >>> works >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >>> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >>> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >>> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >>> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >>> so far and for bearing with me! >>> >>> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >>> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >>> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >>> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >>> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >>> advice received to those that do. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> own XOT installation >>> Message-ID:<011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >>> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >>> >>> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >>> comment/add as >>> follows: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >>> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >>> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >>> way irrelevant at the moment. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >>> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >>> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >>> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >>> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >>> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >>> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >>> McNaught >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >>> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >>> pick up the answers. >>> >>> >>> >>> A >>> >>> >>> >>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >>> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >>> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >>> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >>> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >>> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >>> error message saying >>> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >>> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >>> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >>> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >>> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >>> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >>> imported." And can go no further. >>> >>> >>> >>> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? 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(Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <4F30D0A0.6050701@tor.nl> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> <4F30D0A0.6050701@tor.nl> Message-ID: <001601cce576$e79d7760$b6d86620$@co.uk> Thanks for the suggestion Tom but on other XOT installations \times and \frac works fine whereas on the sandpit the single backslash doesn't get saved. On the sandpit adding \\times and \\frac does work in as far as it leaves a single backslash and then latex works so Alex could try that but from what I can tell this shouldn't be necessary. I've tried replacing /modules/xerte/engine/save.php with a newer version but that must have some dependencies that I haven't yet identified. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 February 2012 07:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) I didn't have the opportunity to test this, but the \t in \times is probably interpreted as a 'TAB' character. Try \\times. Tom Op 6-2-2012 23:11, Ron Mitchell schreef: > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the > backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is > why the latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what > file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can > replace them on the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the > sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed > me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the > XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I > imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The > formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' > instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the > new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open > content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if > you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import >> it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> >> >> >> Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of >> the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> >> You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, >> in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> >> >> >> If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a >> quiz > score. >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> >> >> >> Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not >> totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not >> using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no >> longer relevant to my question.) >> >> >> >> I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to >> export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard >> to achieve > this? >> >> >> Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with >> the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have >> within Blackboard? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct. >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can >>> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to >>> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from >>> quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >>> >>> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> be even better... >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >>> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >>> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >>> work as > 'scorm export'. >>> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >>> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> be even better... >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >>> line ;-) >>> >>> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental >>> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before trying >>> things like exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right >>> with your install and if you don't have access to the server >>> yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to >>> this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >>> >>> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >>> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >>> are correct Check the permissions are correct >>> >>> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying >>> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and importing >>> from the same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo >>> Finally try the sandpit import and post further questions if >>> everything but that works >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >>> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to >>> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >>> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >>> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the >>> help so far and for bearing with me! >>> >>> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >>> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and >>> export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new >>> installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I >>> get this >>> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >>> advice received to those that do. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> own XOT installation >>> Message-ID:<011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >>> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >>> >>> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >>> comment/add as >>> follows: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >>> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >>> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >>> way irrelevant at the moment. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >>> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >>> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >>> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the >>> same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with >>> your installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >>> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >>> McNaught >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >>> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >>> pick up the answers. >>> >>> >>> >>> A >>> >>> >>> >>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >>> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >>> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >>> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >>> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >>> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >>> error message saying >>> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >>> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >>> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >>> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >>> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >>> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >>> imported." And can go no further. >>> >>> >>> >>> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? >>> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >>> >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >>> Applied Sciences& Allied Health Professions >>> >>> >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >>> University of the West of England >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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(Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A579@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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JISC RSC > New case study on the Excellence Gateway Souad Kouachi, a Science Lecturer at Epping Forest College has utilised the Xerte Online Toolkit (XOLTK ) to create a collaborative learning environment for her ... www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/.../new-case-study-on-the-excellence-gatewa... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 10:04:26 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A579@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A579@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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(Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7B16@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <000901cce51c$434a4e90$c9deebb0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A579@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A5CD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hmm. I don't think this is our software, sounds like a server thing? Same code, different server, different results? Problem isn't the code...? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 10:45:38 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:45:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 11:15:06 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:15:06 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 11:25:44 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:25:44 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. This will not import into the sandpit. Is there a size limit? Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give feedback Thanks Dave Pedley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 12:56:59 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:56:59 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 13:04:20 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:04:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme - update In-Reply-To: <4F2FB9A5.4000409@bath.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007c01cce4bf$3b7f80c0$b27e8240$@co.uk> <4F2FB9A5.4000409@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D05B4@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi My last email to this list (pasted below) and any replies from others don't seem to have arrived back in my Inbox (not sure why) so apologies if anyone has replied to me in the meantime and I'm jumping the gun. I've searched the list archive and found some advice (also pasted below) to change the default colour scheme of LOs. I have found and edited the stylesheet at this location: \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\styles.css But it doesn't seem to have changed anything. I've emptied the cache on my browser but still no luck. Is this the right file? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks again. Oli Sent: Tue 07/02/2012 10:33 Re: default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli > > Am 07.07.2011, 21:37, Ron Mitchell (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk) schrieb: > > Example attached. > > In XOT it goes in \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\ > > Within an exported LO or one created with Xerte it just goes in the > \common\ folder. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Eugen > Leibundgut > *Sent:* 07 July 2011 13:58 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] stylesheet to change the default color scheme in > xerte toolkit > > Hello Ron > > Do you have a stylesheet to change the default color scheme in xerte > toolkit? > Where do i have to place this stylesheet (directory)? > > thanks for an answer. > > Eugene _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 13:08:02 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:08:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 13:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme - update Hi My last email to this list (pasted below) and any replies from others don't seem to have arrived back in my Inbox (not sure why) so apologies if anyone has replied to me in the meantime and I'm jumping the gun. I've searched the list archive and found some advice (also pasted below) to change the default colour scheme of LOs. I have found and edited the stylesheet at this location: \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\styles.css But it doesn't seem to have changed anything. I've emptied the cache on my browser but still no luck. Is this the right file? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks again. Oli Sent: Tue 07/02/2012 10:33 Re: default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli > > Am 07.07.2011, 21:37, Ron Mitchell (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk) schrieb: > > Example attached. > > In XOT it goes in \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\ > > Within an exported LO or one created with Xerte it just goes in the > \common\ folder. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Eugen > Leibundgut > *Sent:* 07 July 2011 13:58 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] stylesheet to change the default color scheme in > xerte toolkit > > Hello Ron > > Do you have a stylesheet to change the default color scheme in xerte > toolkit? > Where do i have to place this stylesheet (directory)? > > thanks for an answer. > > Eugene _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 13:10:57 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:10:57 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT In-Reply-To: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> References: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a xerte limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you shouldn't be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just meant as a play area to try XOT and then establish your own installation where the full benefits can be realised. If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be a php limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the phpinfo and then change php.ini if necessary. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Pedley Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT Hi, I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO's created and exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install on a laptop. Both are giving me "Upload check you can only import zip files" error. I can create, export and upload small LO's into my local install, (5meg) but not import anything created in the sandpit, even after unblocking them in properties. I can create, export and import LO's into the sandpit (49meg) and import test LO's created in my local install into the sandpit. The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. This will not import into the sandpit. Is there a size limit? Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give feedback Thanks Dave Pedley This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 13:13:43 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:13:43 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme - update In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D05B4@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6805A@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178B82E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E681D5@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178BE1C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E684B2@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C2FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F2FA81A.9080205@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA178C34A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007c01cce4bf$3b7f80c0$b27e8240$@co.uk> <4F2FB9A5.4000409@bath.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D05B4@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00d601cce59a$536abc50$fa4034f0$@co.uk> Yes that is the right file and I replied to your message earlier with an example css attached and Julian has also subsequently replied with a revised Nottingham.rlt file which should make this changeable on a per LO basis. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 13:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme - update Hi My last email to this list (pasted below) and any replies from others don't seem to have arrived back in my Inbox (not sure why) so apologies if anyone has replied to me in the meantime and I'm jumping the gun. I've searched the list archive and found some advice (also pasted below) to change the default colour scheme of LOs. I have found and edited the stylesheet at this location: \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\styles.css But it doesn't seem to have changed anything. I've emptied the cache on my browser but still no luck. Is this the right file? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks again. Oli Sent: Tue 07/02/2012 10:33 Re: default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli > > Am 07.07.2011, 21:37, Ron Mitchell (ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk ) schrieb: > > Example attached. > > In XOT it goes in \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\common\ > > Within an exported LO or one created with Xerte it just goes in the > \common\ folder. > > HTH > > Ron > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ] *On Behalf Of *Eugen > Leibundgut > *Sent:* 07 July 2011 13:58 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] stylesheet to change the default color scheme in > xerte toolkit > > Hello Ron > > Do you have a stylesheet to change the default color scheme in xerte > toolkit? > Where do i have to place this stylesheet (directory)? > > thanks for an answer. > > Eugene _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet , this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 14:14:55 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:14:55 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet , this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 14:16:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:16:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A845@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, they stayed blue. There is a difference between how the two sheets are loaded up: in the default way, it is loaded before any xml is parsed by the engine; in this way it happens after the interface has initialised. I'll look into it... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 14:24:19 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:24:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE5A4.2DA4BCF0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: XMLEngine.swf Type: application/x-shockwave-flash Size: 147659 bytes Desc: XMLEngine.swf URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 14:26:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:26:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE5A4.8B386D30] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 27405 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 14:30:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:30:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A870@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Try that again now... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE5A5.0B867EF0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: XMLEngine.swf Type: application/x-shockwave-flash Size: 147728 bytes Desc: XMLEngine.swf URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 15:47:30 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:47:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Hi Your emails finally came through. Thanks so much Ron and Julian for your help. I'm rubbish at writing CSS and that's why I couldn't get anything to change until I finally received the example stylesheet to edit. Having a lot more success now. buttonFillColur seems to work for me btw as you can see. The only areas I can't get to do what I want are shown in black in my image. [cid:image003.png at 01CCE5AF.AEA04BC0] I'm using the XMLEngine.swf you provided. Here's the CSS I'm using: titleBarColour: 0x4d5153; buttonFillColour: 0x4d5153; statusBarColour: 0xb22222 ; //defaultFont: Helvetica; fillColour: 0xeeeeee; defaultColour:#000000; titleColour:0xFFFFFF; buttonTextColour:0xFFFFFF; //buttonFillColour:0xD17525; statusColour:0xFFFFFF; //glossaryColour:0xD17525; //labelColour:0xD17525; //inputColour:#D17525; One other thing: "Julian has also subsequently replied with a revised Nottingham.rlt file which should make this changeable on a per LO basis." Thanks again. I've updated the file on the server but how do I use this on a per LO basis? Sorry for my novice questions. I'm getting there slowly! Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE5AC.612A00A0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: oledata.mso Type: application/octet-stream Size: 89991 bytes Desc: oledata.mso URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 15:51:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:51:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A96A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> On the Learning Object icon, add the optional 'stylesheet' option and then upload your style sheet. It will apply to that LO only, not your entire server, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hi Your emails finally came through. Thanks so much Ron and Julian for your help. I'm rubbish at writing CSS and that's why I couldn't get anything to change until I finally received the example stylesheet to edit. Having a lot more success now. buttonFillColur seems to work for me btw as you can see. The only areas I can't get to do what I want are shown in black in my image. [cid:image004.png at 01CCE5B0.4F449040] I'm using the XMLEngine.swf you provided. Here's the CSS I'm using: titleBarColour: 0x4d5153; buttonFillColour: 0x4d5153; statusBarColour: 0xb22222 ; //defaultFont: Helvetica; fillColour: 0xeeeeee; defaultColour:#000000; titleColour:0xFFFFFF; buttonTextColour:0xFFFFFF; //buttonFillColour:0xD17525; statusColour:0xFFFFFF; //glossaryColour:0xD17525; //labelColour:0xD17525; //inputColour:#D17525; One other thing: "Julian has also subsequently replied with a revised Nottingham.rlt file which should make this changeable on a per LO basis." Thanks again. I've updated the file on the server but how do I use this on a per LO basis? Sorry for my novice questions. I'm getting there slowly! Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image005.png at 01CCE5B0.4F449040] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a xerte > limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you shouldn't > be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just meant as a play > area to try XOT and then establish your own installation where the full > benefits can be realised. > > If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be a php > limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the phpinfo and > then change php.ini if necessary. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Pedley > Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT > > > > Hi, > > I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO?s created and > exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install on a > laptop. > > Both are giving me ?Upload check you can only import zip files? error. > > I can create, export and upload small LO?s into my local install, (5meg) but > not import anything created in the sandpit, even after unblocking them in > properties. > > I can create, export and import LO?s into the sandpit (49meg) and import > test LO?s created in my local install into the sandpit. > > The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior to the > wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. This will not > import into the sandpit. > > Is there a size limit? > > Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? > > I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish via > your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give feedback > > Thanks > > Dave Pedley > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 16:13:20 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 16:13:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A96A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A96A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D07FB@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks! That's a really useful addition. Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme On the Learning Object icon, add the optional 'stylesheet' option and then upload your style sheet. It will apply to that LO only, not your entire server, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 15:47 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hi Your emails finally came through. Thanks so much Ron and Julian for your help. I'm rubbish at writing CSS and that's why I couldn't get anything to change until I finally received the example stylesheet to edit. Having a lot more success now. buttonFillColur seems to work for me btw as you can see. The only areas I can't get to do what I want are shown in black in my image. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE5B3.68781A70] I'm using the XMLEngine.swf you provided. Here's the CSS I'm using: titleBarColour: 0x4d5153; buttonFillColour: 0x4d5153; statusBarColour: 0xb22222 ; //defaultFont: Helvetica; fillColour: 0xeeeeee; defaultColour:#000000; titleColour:0xFFFFFF; buttonTextColour:0xFFFFFF; //buttonFillColour:0xD17525; statusColour:0xFFFFFF; //glossaryColour:0xD17525; //labelColour:0xD17525; //inputColour:#D17525; One other thing: "Julian has also subsequently replied with a revised Nottingham.rlt file which should make this changeable on a per LO basis." Thanks again. I've updated the file on the server but how do I use this on a per LO basis? Sorry for my novice questions. I'm getting there slowly! Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image002.png at 01CCE5B3.68781A70] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 27405 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Tue Feb 7 16:37:32 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 16:37:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D079C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D0845@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Just found a mistake in my CSS file. I left a space before the semi-colon here - statusBarColour: 0xb22222 ; Works fine now. Cheers Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 15:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hi Your emails finally came through. Thanks so much Ron and Julian for your help. I'm rubbish at writing CSS and that's why I couldn't get anything to change until I finally received the example stylesheet to edit. Having a lot more success now. buttonFillColur seems to work for me btw as you can see. The only areas I can't get to do what I want are shown in black in my image. [cid:image004.png at 01CCE5B6.CA2B5DB0] I'm using the XMLEngine.swf you provided. Here's the CSS I'm using: titleBarColour: 0x4d5153; buttonFillColour: 0x4d5153; statusBarColour: 0xb22222 ; //defaultFont: Helvetica; fillColour: 0xeeeeee; defaultColour:#000000; titleColour:0xFFFFFF; buttonTextColour:0xFFFFFF; //buttonFillColour:0xD17525; statusColour:0xFFFFFF; //glossaryColour:0xD17525; //labelColour:0xD17525; //inputColour:#D17525; One other thing: "Julian has also subsequently replied with a revised Nottingham.rlt file which should make this changeable on a per LO basis." Thanks again. I've updated the file on the server but how do I use this on a per LO basis? Sorry for my novice questions. I'm getting there slowly! Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image005.png at 01CCE5B6.CA2B5DB0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 27405 bytes Desc: image005.png URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 7 17:29:31 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:29:31 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A870@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A870@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <019801cce5be$0fb10c70$2f132550$@co.uk> a small point (or maybe not) but what about the volume slider? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Try that again now. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet , this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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(Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. 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(Ron Mitchell) In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. 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Sigh. ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 17:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme a small point (or maybe not) but what about the volume slider? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Try that again now... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE649.57EF3F80] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 27405 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 10:09:58 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:09:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187ABB0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C824943D03C3@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A63D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008801cce589$c1453400$43cf9c00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A69A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a001cce58b$3d84ccf0$b88e66d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A6C7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00ba01cce597$fd120220$f7360660$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A799@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f301cce59e$d2545f40$76fd1dc0$@co.uk> <010301cce5a2$e0d83470$a2889d50$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A85E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A863@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187A870@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <019801cce5be$0fb10c70$2f132550$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187ABB0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187ABC1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Fixed that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 10:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme You're just fussy. Sigh. ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 17:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme a small point (or maybe not) but what about the volume slider? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Try that again now... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Hang on - default still takes you back to the blue scheme... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 14:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yep, that was the trouble: if the styles are already loaded before the interface initialises, the controls take their style values from STYLES, if it is loaded later they didn't - until now: new engine attached. Cheers. [cid:image001.png at 01CCE649.D0516CA0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 14:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Might have spoken too soon :-( Is buttonFillColour working on your tests? Wondering if the path to common/styles.css is hardcoded for that somewhere? e.g. if I change that colour in common/styles.css it works but if I change that in media/styles.css it still uses the colour from common/styles.css If buttonFillColour works for you from media? then it may be a difference in my files somewhere :-( Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Works great! Such a simple but beneficial addition! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 13:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme I had a load of typos in there: this works, after the background image code: //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 12:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme sorry been in a skype call until now - and now time for lunch but will test and feedback shortly. Although a stylesheet was obviously attached to one of my previous replies :-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Can you test this - or send me a stylesheet to test with please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:26 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Jeesh - why didn't I think of that! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Yes, we could have stylesheet an optional LO property and if set, use that... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 11:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme Example attached. Julian while we're on this subject it's been on my to do list to check/test if there's a way we could make the path to styles.css conditional e.g. to look for it in media first and then if not found use the one in common? That would make it easy to have different styles for different LO's rather than a site wide only solution. I've verified that this works with a test install by changing the path to media\styles.css and uploading via the LO or media & quota just not sure how and where to make it conditional and therefore backward compatible. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: default colour scheme By editing the stylesheet - Ron has an example handy I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 07 February 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] default colour scheme Hello How do I edit the colours on the default colour scheme for LOs made with XOT? I'd like to change the various blues used in the default colour scheme but keep everything else exactly the same. Thanks for your help Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 27405 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XMLEngine.swf Type: application/x-shockwave-flash Size: 147750 bytes Desc: XMLEngine.swf URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 10:57:53 2012 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:57:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. 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In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC45@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, thanks, we'll fix that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 11:20:13 2012 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:20:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D52@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Great news, could you please let me know when you have fixed it. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 10:59 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:58:46 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC45 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, thanks, we'll fix that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 11:41:33 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:41:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187ACC9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You could do that easily enough, but really ought to go and do that throughout the various templates for consistency... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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It's not pure Xertte Online Toolkits - they've tweaked it to add new things - but it's a lovely example of Xerte being used effectively in inclusive teaching and learning. It's also an open educational resource that can be downloaded from Open Jorum. This is a good place to start http://www2.wlv.ac.uk/celt/oer/unit2/ I keep finding new Xerte enthusiasts that I never knew about - if you are such a lurker on these lists we'd love to see some examples of what kind of resources you've created. One of the things that excites us at JISC TechDis is the fact that Xerte can be used to create engaging learning experiences for pre-literate Special needs settings through to post graduate training courses. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 8 12:21:50 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:21:50 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 12:37:49 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 07:37:49 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Remember, you can always insert a desktop Xerte object as a page.So put together a page in desktop that attaches the user input to rootIcon as a string, then checks for it upon page instantiation. Dave Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:39:14 +0000 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT RE: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Yes, it keeps the text as they navigate through pages and also has the copy to clipboard option - nice work! How many requests does it take to get it included?! Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Ron Mitchell Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 12:21 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Feb 8 12:44:11 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:44:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Nice Xerte examples In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does the mean Wolverhampton got a XOT install? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Alistair McNaught wrote: > From Prof Christine Hockings ? Wolverhampton JISC funded project developing > OER materials for accredited courses for inclusive teacher training. > > > > It?s not pure Xertte Online Toolkits ? they?ve tweaked it to add new things > ? but it?s a lovely example of Xerte being used effectively in inclusive > teaching and learning. It?s also an open educational resource that can be > downloaded from Open Jorum. > > > > This is a good place to start http://www2.wlv.ac.uk/celt/oer/unit2/ > > > > I keep finding new Xerte enthusiasts that I never knew about ? if you are > such a lurker on these lists we?d love to see some examples of what kind of > resources you?ve created. One of the things that excites us at JISC TechDis > is the fact that Xerte can be used to create engaging learning experiences > for pre-literate Special needs settings through to post graduate training > courses. > > > > Alistair > > > > > > Alistair McNaught > > Senior Advisor > > JISC TechDis > > C/O The Higher Education Academy Building > > Innovation Way > > York Science Park > > YORK > > > > YO10 5BR > > > > 07870567659 > > Skype: alistair_techdis > > http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk > > http://www.scoop.it/t/inclusive-teaching-and-learning > > > > Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? > See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster > resource. > > > > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the > intended recipient please accept our apologies. 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:46:09 2012 From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com (Brian Finch) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle. I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress. ? ________________________________ Brian Finch??????????????? 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG??????? tel:? 44 02(0) 8455 6036???? mob: 07773 407383 ________________________________ From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? ? From:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT ? If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) ? http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 ? From:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT ? We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. ? 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The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 12:22 > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my > two compare answer page types! ;-) > > > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 11:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the > minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / > paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of > some sort on the server. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Davidson, Andrew > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 10:56 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > Hi > > With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be > possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created > to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the > page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through > the xerte course pages? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 13:51:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:51:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd probably write to the pages underlying xml somewhere ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2012 12:37 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Remember, you can always insert a desktop Xerte object as a page. So put together a page in desktop that attaches the user input to rootIcon as a string, then checks for it upon page instantiation. Dave ________________________________ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:39:14 +0000 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. 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From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 14:01:51 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:01:51 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes.Couple ways to skin the cat, but if there's a generic solution in the works, no point in trying to refine mine.;-) > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:51:07 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > I'd probably write to the pages underlying xml somewhere > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 08 February 2012 12:37 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Remember, you can always insert a desktop Xerte object as a page. > So put together a page in desktop that attaches the user input to rootIcon as a string, then checks for it upon page instantiation. > > Dave > > ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:39:14 +0000 > From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Feb 8 14:15:24 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:15:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It's not hard in PHP to do this, but the question is - "how do I know which user you are" On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I'd probably write to the pages underlying xml somewhere > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 08 February 2012 12:37 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Remember, you can always insert a desktop Xerte object as a page. > So put together a page in desktop that attaches the user input to rootIcon as a string, then checks for it upon page instantiation. > > Dave > > ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:39:14 +0000 > From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the script they have created in response to a task? > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney > Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > Hi > > With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when ?the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 8 14:32:37 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:32:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA13090CB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: "but if there's a generic solution in the works" All I am doing at the moment is setting up individual page templates for every page so that Xerte 2.18 can offer individual page templates and also use the individual xwd files to construct a templates.xwd file. So the new individual page templates will be based on the existing rlm and xwd code. I don't have the time available at present to develop a new version of the Model Answer page. However if there already exists a more comprehensively featured version of the page and I can get hold of the rlm file and xwd details then as long as it follows the same initialisation as all the other pages it should not be to problematic to turn it into another individual page template. Then again it may be better to wait until the release of xerte 2.18 when people can have a go at creating their own new pages for inclusion in Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 14:01, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Yes. > Couple ways to skin the cat, but if there's a generic solution in the > works, no point in trying to refine mine. > ;-) > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:51:07 +0000 > > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > I'd probably write to the pages underlying xml somewhere > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [ > d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > > Sent: 08 February 2012 12:37 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > Remember, you can always insert a desktop Xerte object as a page. > > So put together a page in desktop that attaches the user input to > rootIcon as a string, then checks for it upon page instantiation. > > > > Dave > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:39:14 +0000 > > From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > Okay thanks. I guess also there is no way for this page to have the > option of not being cleared so that the user can page back to check the > script they have created in response to a task? > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Wed 08/02/2012 11:02 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at > the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut > / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of > some sort on the server. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew > > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > > > > > Hi > > > > With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be > possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created > to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the > page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through > the xerte course pages? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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A question though - Is it possible for scroll bars to be added to the subpages to solve the issue of text overflowing the frame? I know Julian has argued before about encouraging people to create bite sized text - a view I wholeheartedly agree with - but when you take into account the way visually impaired people may choose to enlarge the font size using the accessibility controls it is often unpredictable as to the point at which the LO will break. If you want to have an image in the subpage (which you often do) the issue becomes even more frustrating. How big a job would it be for subpages to share the scrollbar behaviour of many of the main pages? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 26 January 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New template A new template is available in the svn. It's a version of the tabbed navigator which allows you to create a list of topic links with each topic displaying a new series of tabbed pages. Each tabbed page can also have subpages. You can see a simple example here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_6580 The model file is called tabNavExtra.rlm and it appears as Navigators > Tabbed Navigator + on the Insert menu. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Embeded and new window pages Hi I have the relevant .rlm files for embedded and new window pages in my XOT installation but the do not appear in the insert menu. Is there another file(s) that I am missing and if so what ? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 27 January 2012 15:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New template Hi Fay, This looks brilliant and I can think of some powerful uses already in terms of developing essay skills. A question though - Is it possible for scroll bars to be added to the subpages to solve the issue of text overflowing the frame? I know Julian has argued before about encouraging people to create bite sized text - a view I wholeheartedly agree with - but when you take into account the way visually impaired people may choose to enlarge the font size using the accessibility controls it is often unpredictable as to the point at which the LO will break. If you want to have an image in the subpage (which you often do) the issue becomes even more frustrating. How big a job would it be for subpages to share the scrollbar behaviour of many of the main pages? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 26 January 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New template A new template is available in the svn. It's a version of the tabbed navigator which allows you to create a list of topic links with each topic displaying a new series of tabbed pages. Each tabbed page can also have subpages. You can see a simple example here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_6580 The model file is called tabNavExtra.rlm and it appears as Navigators > Tabbed Navigator + on the Insert menu. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 15:14:36 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:14:36 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here: - Having pages retain input during session- Having the ability to Save/Print input The mechanics are thus: To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those instructions to create the page components the user sees.When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next page worth of components are created.To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to write the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block for that page.All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms: - LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved via SCORM calls.- LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from server text file or database. So first we need a consensus on what is most desired.Session persistent or long-term persistent? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle. I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress. Brian Finch 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG tel: 44 02(0) 8455 6036 mob: 07773 407383 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Query about model answer pagetype in XOTThere?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 15:17:48 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:17:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Feb 8 15:26:50 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:26:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Session with a dirty flag so as to revert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here: > > - Having pages retain input during session > - Having the ability to Save/Print input > > The mechanics are thus: > > To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those > instructions to create the page components the user sees. > When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next page > worth of components are created. > To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to write > the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block for that > page. > All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded > > Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms: > > - LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved via > SCORM calls. > - LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from > server text file or database. > > So first we need a consensus on what is most desired. > Session persistent or long-term persistent? > > > ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 > From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about > being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site > suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed > that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and > don't know much about Moodle. > > I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful > for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to > look back at what they have done as they progress. > > ________________________________ > Brian Finch??????????????? 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG??????? tel:? 44 > 02(0) 8455 6036???? mob: 07773 407383 > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two > compare answer page types! ;-) > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the > minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / > paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some > sort on the server. > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Hi > > With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be > possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created > to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the > page should be cleared or not when? the user moves forward or back through > the xerte course pages? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Wed Feb 8 15:28:32 2012 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:28:32 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A46@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A47@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> Thanks, and in which folder is that situated, I cant find that in XOT. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 08 February 2012 14:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages Make sure you also have the most up to date version of template.xwd This file holds info about all the pages that you can add from the Insert menu of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Embeded and new window pages Hi I have the relevant .rlm files for embedded and new window pages in my XOT installation but the do not appear in the insert menu. Is there another file(s) that I am missing and if so what ? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 27 January 2012 15:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New template Hi Fay, This looks brilliant and I can think of some powerful uses already in terms of developing essay skills. A question though - Is it possible for scroll bars to be added to the subpages to solve the issue of text overflowing the frame? I know Julian has argued before about encouraging people to create bite sized text - a view I wholeheartedly agree with - but when you take into account the way visually impaired people may choose to enlarge the font size using the accessibility controls it is often unpredictable as to the point at which the LO will break. If you want to have an image in the subpage (which you often do) the issue becomes even more frustrating. How big a job would it be for subpages to share the scrollbar behaviour of many of the main pages? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 26 January 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New template A new template is available in the svn. It's a version of the tabbed navigator which allows you to create a list of topic links with each topic displaying a new series of tabbed pages. Each tabbed page can also have subpages. You can see a simple example here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_6580 The model file is called tabNavExtra.rlm and it appears as Navigators > Tabbed Navigator + on the Insert menu. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 8 15:35:46 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:35:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A47@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A46@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A47@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> Message-ID: modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/ sorry, it's data.xwd not templates.xwd From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages Thanks, and in which folder is that situated, I cant find that in XOT. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 08 February 2012 14:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages Make sure you also have the most up to date version of template.xwd This file holds info about all the pages that you can add from the Insert menu of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Embeded and new window pages Hi I have the relevant .rlm files for embedded and new window pages in my XOT installation but the do not appear in the insert menu. Is there another file(s) that I am missing and if so what ? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 27 January 2012 15:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New template Hi Fay, This looks brilliant and I can think of some powerful uses already in terms of developing essay skills. A question though - Is it possible for scroll bars to be added to the subpages to solve the issue of text overflowing the frame? I know Julian has argued before about encouraging people to create bite sized text - a view I wholeheartedly agree with - but when you take into account the way visually impaired people may choose to enlarge the font size using the accessibility controls it is often unpredictable as to the point at which the LO will break. If you want to have an image in the subpage (which you often do) the issue becomes even more frustrating. How big a job would it be for subpages to share the scrollbar behaviour of many of the main pages? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 26 January 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New template A new template is available in the svn. It's a version of the tabbed navigator which allows you to create a list of topic links with each topic displaying a new series of tabbed pages. Each tabbed page can also have subpages. You can see a simple example here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_6580 The model file is called tabNavExtra.rlm and it appears as Navigators > Tabbed Navigator + on the Insert menu. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Wed Feb 8 15:42:38 2012 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:42:38 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A46@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A47@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4A48@mail.rewards-trc.co.uk> Thank you Fay that worked a treat. :)) Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 08 February 2012 15:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/ sorry, it's data.xwd not templates.xwd From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages Thanks, and in which folder is that situated, I cant find that in XOT. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 08 February 2012 14:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embeded and new window pages Make sure you also have the most up to date version of template.xwd This file holds info about all the pages that you can add from the Insert menu of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2012 14:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Embeded and new window pages Hi I have the relevant .rlm files for embedded and new window pages in my XOT installation but the do not appear in the insert menu. Is there another file(s) that I am missing and if so what ? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 27 January 2012 15:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New template Hi Fay, This looks brilliant and I can think of some powerful uses already in terms of developing essay skills. A question though - Is it possible for scroll bars to be added to the subpages to solve the issue of text overflowing the frame? I know Julian has argued before about encouraging people to create bite sized text - a view I wholeheartedly agree with - but when you take into account the way visually impaired people may choose to enlarge the font size using the accessibility controls it is often unpredictable as to the point at which the LO will break. If you want to have an image in the subpage (which you often do) the issue becomes even more frustrating. How big a job would it be for subpages to share the scrollbar behaviour of many of the main pages? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 26 January 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New template A new template is available in the svn. It's a version of the tabbed navigator which allows you to create a list of topic links with each topic displaying a new series of tabbed pages. Each tabbed page can also have subpages. You can see a simple example here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_6580 The model file is called tabNavExtra.rlm and it appears as Navigators > Tabbed Navigator + on the Insert menu. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 8 15:53:17 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:53:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Johnathan > The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the > copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the > harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. > > If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. > > A > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ------------------------------ > From: Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 > > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? > > I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates > except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual > page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd > before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is > different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a > look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. > > So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically > through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any > ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other > versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. > > Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that > makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to > the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> There?s a ?model answer? in the new tempales..? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell >> *Sent:* 08 February 2012 12:22 >> >> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >> >> >> >> If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my >> two compare answer page types! ;-) >> >> >> >> http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney >> *Sent:* 08 February 2012 11:02 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >> >> >> >> We can?t create / save a file in Word ? the user can cut and paste at the >> minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / >> paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of >> some sort on the server. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] >> *On Behalf Of *Davidson, Andrew >> *Sent:* 08 February 2012 10:56 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be >> possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created >> to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the >> page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through >> the xerte course pages? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> Centre for Applied Linguistics >> Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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URL: From thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Wed Feb 8 16:17:33 2012 From: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com (Thomas Rochford) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:17:33 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00cb01cce67d$2a7b0eb0$7f712c10$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Hi Dave, In case you haven't cracked this already, here is one possible cause. I have a similar problem with an LO which I have difficulty in importing and normally have to do this manually. However I've been able to devote some time to this today and have found a likely cause and that is that the zip file has broken links in it. I used 7-Zip to unzip it and got 34 errors as shown in the attached image. Interestingly that meant that trying to open the 'template.xml' in IE just produced a blank window whereas normally this would display the XML code. I then tried opening it in firefox (which is a very good XML checker/debugger) and got the following error message: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: file:///C:/Users/Thomas/Desktop/Accessibility-2/template.xml Line Number 21, Column 115: <li>Use graphics to enhance the text</li>" align="left" mapurl="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cb3+9ln& sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.637293,60.556641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cambridges hire+CB3+0,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.199493,0.095245&spn=0.001151,0.00228&t=h&z= 18&iwloc=A" maptype="satellite" tooltip="Click on the map to go interactive" link="true" /> To save you counting, Column 115 is the '=' sign in '' source=s_q" There may be other problems and that just happens to be the first one spotted. I don't know enough about XML to spot an error of this nature and have attached the file in case there's someone out there who can spot why this generates a parsing error, we might then be able to find out how it had crept in. I haven't got a solution just yet other than to rebuild the Learning object from scratch and then to re-export it. Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 February 2012 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT If you open the zip file, what files can you see? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a > xerte limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you > shouldn't be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just > meant as a play area to try XOT and then establish your own > installation where the full benefits can be realised. > > If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be > a php limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the > phpinfo and then change php.ini if necessary. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Pedley > Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT > > > > Hi, > > I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO's created and > exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install > on a laptop. > > Both are giving me "Upload check you can only import zip files" error. > > I can create, export and upload small LO's into my local install, > (5meg) but not import anything created in the sandpit, even after > unblocking them in properties. > > I can create, export and import LO's into the sandpit (49meg) and > import test LO's created in my local install into the sandpit. > > The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior > to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. > This will not import into the sandpit. > > Is there a size limit? > > Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? > > I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish > via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give > feedback > > Thanks > > Dave Pedley > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Wed Feb 8 19:02:06 2012 From: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com (Thomas Rochford) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:02:06 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King dom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 8 21:56:11 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:56:11 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone _____ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: modelAnswer.rlm Type: application/octet-stream Size: 7838 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 08:55:08 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:55:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys wanted to do that, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 09:04:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:04:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B016@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The options for saving data are: - cache it for the current session (write to the xml or somewhere else convenient); - Save between sessions for same user on same machine - use SharedObject; - Save between sessions for a roaming user logging in from anywhere. Needs user login and authentication (how would the sandpit do this - no LMS, no LDAP, no list of end-users), LMS or custom functionality to save data. 1st is easy. 2nd more difficult, but probably simple enough - but might not be worth the effort as many users roam - use LOs at home, in library, etc). 3rd option is an LMS thing or a custom data tracking solution. You have to have users with usernames and passwords (and support issues when they can't log in). Tom was looking into SCORMing the interactions, which seems a potential solution. I am a little cautious about the amount of support this would create: what I definitely don't want to do is to start creating loads of support issues when you start managing usernames, passwords, etc. Think about the sandpit scenario - how would it work best for that? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2012 15:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here: - Having pages retain input during session - Having the ability to Save/Print input The mechanics are thus: To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those instructions to create the page components the user sees. When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next page worth of components are created. To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to write the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block for that page. All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms: - LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved via SCORM calls. - LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from server text file or database. So first we need a consensus on what is most desired. Session persistent or long-term persistent? ________________________________ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle. I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress. ________________________________ Brian Finch 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG tel: 44 02(0) 8455 6036 mob: 07773 407383 ________________________________ From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 9 09:16:30 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:16:30 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002901cce70b$851e8c50$8f5ba4f0$@co.uk> Sort of yes but it obviously it depends on how it ends up working. My concern as we see on this list is that quite a few people can add new files to their install or request they be added by someone with server access but unlikely to use xerte desktop to run the php to build the xwd etc. If we end up with a way of doing that dynamic build of the xwd in xot as well as desktop that might help a lot. Probably best to discuss this further on the dev list at some point. Meanwhile what about this update of model answer shall I commit that? With that in place if you don't want a separate collated results page (e.g. modelAnswerResults.rlm) that can probably be achieved by supplying a model file which can be added by anyone who wants it via a xerte content page. So happy for an additional modelAnswerResults page or go the xerte content route? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys wanted to do that, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone _____ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 9 09:17:49 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:17:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F338F3D.1020800@tor.nl> You will be able to 'import' a page into a XOT template. I have all the code, but I can't seem to connect it to a button in the management page of XOT. Will have to look into that, or perhaps Pat can help me (off line) if he has the time. Not sure whether we should support deletion though, for all the reasons Ron mentioned. So currently it is not in my plans. Op 9-2-2012 9:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't > matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an > xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys > wanted to do that, right? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 21:56 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Ok first a bit of background... > > What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the > stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the > model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out > of date now) > > It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other > installations since that time. It was simply added to the page > templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models > directory. No changes to the .rlt required. > > Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which > collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses > wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. > > As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was > that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they > closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. > Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and > their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate > compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the > clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or > replaced with a print button. > > In response to today's thread... > > I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached > and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? > > It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a > modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so > if it will be included? > > My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing > LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way > we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer > and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing > of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in > terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare > answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that > makes sense ;-) > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages > and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could > take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that > is acceptable to the Xerte team. > > If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the > templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets > published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now > with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > > wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included > the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well > as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary > page. > > If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. > > A > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent: *08/02/2012 13:02 > > > *To: *Xerte discussion list > *Subject: *[Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? > > I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates > except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an > individual page template, I figured this could be included in the > default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is > also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it > functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest > of the pages. > > So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically > through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer > so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion > of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. > > Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that > makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need > modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 12:22 > > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include > my two compare answer page types! ;-) > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Julian > Tenney > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 11:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can't create / save a file in Word -- the user can cut and paste at > the minute. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 9 09:26:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:26:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B016@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B016@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F339143.1050406@tor.nl> About SCORM: Once the modularization and the internationalization is form in place, I want to enable scorm for all models that make sense. We have requests to even track whether a pupil has 'visited' a youtube page. So we will have the ability to track much more in the future. That being said, SCORM still is rather tricky to work with, there are too many implementations out there that do different things. So we should really be careful to set the expectations right. Another thing I want to try is to use remote LO's with scorm, i.e. from XOT, create a manifest that uses the LO directly from toolkits. All the assets (images, videos, etc) will remain in XOT. This will GREATLY improve the maintainability of LO's. The SCORM packages we build now contain a LOT of unnecessary data we can safely leave out. I have this sort of working for the moodle integration. It is not yet working for a generic XOT because of cross domain flash issues. I need to look into that, because I don't know enough of flash cross domain issues to even tell whether it is possible or not, and we go that route (refer to xot directly in SCORM) I think it should be a generic solution that will work for the majority of set ups, and not only for moodle where xot is installed inside the moodle tree. Tom Op 9-2-2012 10:04, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The options for saving data are: > > - cache it for the current session (write to the xml or somewhere else > convenient); > > - Save between sessions for same user on same machine -- use SharedObject; > > - Save between sessions for a roaming user logging in from anywhere. > Needs user login and authentication (how would the sandpit do this -- > no LMS, no LDAP, no list of end-users), LMS or custom functionality to > save data. > > 1^st is easy. > > 2^nd more difficult, but probably simple enough -- but might not be > worth the effort as many users roam -- use LOs at home, in library, etc). > > 3^rd option is an LMS thing or a custom data tracking solution. You > have to have users with usernames and passwords (and support issues > when they can't log in). Tom was looking into SCORMing the > interactions, which seems a potential solution. I am a little cautious > about the amount of support this would create: what I definitely don't > want to do is to start creating loads of support issues when you start > managing usernames, passwords, etc. Think about the sandpit scenario > -- how would it work best for that? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 15:15 > *To:* Xerte list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here: > > - Having pages retain input during session > > - Having the ability to Save/Print input > > The mechanics are thus: > > To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those > instructions to create the page components the user sees. > > When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next > page worth of components are created. > > To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to > write the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block > for that page. > > All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded > > Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms: > > - LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved > via SCORM calls. > > - LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from > server text file or database. > > So first we need a consensus on what is most desired. > > Session persistent or long-term persistent? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 > From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago > about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on > another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since > nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not > yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle. > > I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely > powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against > their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Brian Finch 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG tel: > 44 02(0) 8455 6036 mob: 07773 407383* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Julian Tenney > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 12:22 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include > my two compare answer page types! ;-) > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 11:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can't create / save a file in Word -- the user can cut and paste at > the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text > to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it > into a doc of some sort on the server. > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Davidson, > Andrew > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 10:56 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Hi > > With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it > be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text > created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to > choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves > forward or back through the xerte course pages? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > > > Centre for Applied Linguistics > Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 09:32:13 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:32:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <002901cce70b$851e8c50$8f5ba4f0$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002901cce70b$851e8c50$8f5ba4f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B05A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can't we have some sort of 'community' part of the svn where things that aren't in the main distributed xwd can go for users to add as they see fit? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 February 2012 09:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Sort of yes but it obviously it depends on how it ends up working. My concern as we see on this list is that quite a few people can add new files to their install or request they be added by someone with server access but unlikely to use xerte desktop to run the php to build the xwd etc. If we end up with a way of doing that dynamic build of the xwd in xot as well as desktop that might help a lot. Probably best to discuss this further on the dev list at some point. Meanwhile what about this update of model answer shall I commit that? With that in place if you don't want a separate collated results page (e.g. modelAnswerResults.rlm) that can probably be achieved by supplying a model file which can be added by anyone who wants it via a xerte content page. So happy for an additional modelAnswerResults page or go the xerte content route? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys wanted to do that, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 09:36:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:36:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B06D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Commit it yes, it doesn't change anything does it? ModelAnswerResults sounds sensible as well. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 09:39:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:39:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B073@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) This is what to do I think: leave the model in your installations. Take it out of the xwd so new ones are not created anymore, but existing ones continue to work (as long as the model is in the models folder, it will continue to be loaded and used whenever it is encountered in an xml file. New LOs can use the modelAnswer page. So you'll never get all the toothpaste back in the tube, but at least you stop any more coming out. Does that work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 9 09:51:57 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:51:57 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B073@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B073@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005c01cce710$78777750$696665f0$@co.uk> That sounds like a good solution to minimise cavities! ;-) I'll test that and report back.. Also yes the updated modelAnser.rlm doesn't change anything so I'll commit that and at some point do a similar thing with a modelAnswerResults.rlm. Will look at a print option for that latter too. Dave's code might be a good starting point for that if that available anywhere? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 09:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) This is what to do I think: leave the model in your installations. Take it out of the xwd so new ones are not created anymore, but existing ones continue to work (as long as the model is in the models folder, it will continue to be loaded and used whenever it is encountered in an xml file. New LOs can use the modelAnswer page. So you'll never get all the toothpaste back in the tube, but at least you stop any more coming out. Does that work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone _____ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Thanks Kat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 09:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) This is what to do I think: leave the model in your installations. Take it out of the xwd so new ones are not created anymore, but existing ones continue to work (as long as the model is in the models folder, it will continue to be loaded and used whenever it is encountered in an xml file. New LOs can use the modelAnswer page. So you'll never get all the toothpaste back in the tube, but at least you stop any more coming out. Does that work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone _____ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 9 10:06:43 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:06:43 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <4F339143.1050406@tor.nl> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <1328705169.30690.YahooMailNeo@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B016@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F339143.1050406@tor.nl> Message-ID: <006d01cce712$888cd3e0$99a67ba0$@co.uk> All sounds great Tom! Agree many but not all current models would be good to have some tracking. Remote LO tracking sounds great too - agree that exporting and importing loses so much of the benefits of quick updates etc. I look after a number of Moodle installations so happy to help at some point. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 February 2012 09:26 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT About SCORM: Once the modularization and the internationalization is form in place, I want to enable scorm for all models that make sense. We have requests to even track whether a pupil has 'visited' a youtube page. So we will have the ability to track much more in the future. That being said, SCORM still is rather tricky to work with, there are too many implementations out there that do different things. So we should really be careful to set the expectations right. Another thing I want to try is to use remote LO's with scorm, i.e. from XOT, create a manifest that uses the LO directly from toolkits. All the assets (images, videos, etc) will remain in XOT. This will GREATLY improve the maintainability of LO's. The SCORM packages we build now contain a LOT of unnecessary data we can safely leave out. I have this sort of working for the moodle integration. It is not yet working for a generic XOT because of cross domain flash issues. I need to look into that, because I don't know enough of flash cross domain issues to even tell whether it is possible or not, and we go that route (refer to xot directly in SCORM) I think it should be a generic solution that will work for the majority of set ups, and not only for moodle where xot is installed inside the moodle tree. Tom Op 9-2-2012 10:04, Julian Tenney schreef: The options for saving data are: - cache it for the current session (write to the xml or somewhere else convenient); - Save between sessions for same user on same machine - use SharedObject; - Save between sessions for a roaming user logging in from anywhere. Needs user login and authentication (how would the sandpit do this - no LMS, no LDAP, no list of end-users), LMS or custom functionality to save data. 1st is easy. 2nd more difficult, but probably simple enough - but might not be worth the effort as many users roam - use LOs at home, in library, etc). 3rd option is an LMS thing or a custom data tracking solution. You have to have users with usernames and passwords (and support issues when they can't log in). Tom was looking into SCORMing the interactions, which seems a potential solution. I am a little cautious about the amount of support this would create: what I definitely don't want to do is to start creating loads of support issues when you start managing usernames, passwords, etc. Think about the sandpit scenario - how would it work best for that? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2012 15:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here: - Having pages retain input during session - Having the ability to Save/Print input The mechanics are thus: To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those instructions to create the page components the user sees. When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next page worth of components are created. To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to write the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block for that page. All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms: - LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved via SCORM calls. - LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from server text file or database. So first we need a consensus on what is most desired. Session persistent or long-term persistent? _____ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800 From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle. I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress. _____ Brian Finch 52 Middleway, London NW11 6SG tel: 44 02(0) 8455 6036 mob: 07773 407383 _____ From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 9 10:16:00 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:16:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B05A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002901cce70b$851e8c50$8f5ba4f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B05A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F339CE0.6070307@tor.nl> Yes, that is the idea... Not the svn though, my idea at the moment was a part of the community website, and completely on the risk of the user. Than we can also enable a tracking or voting system of what 'pages/models' are popular and 'upgrade' those to be included in the distribution. So in summary, in the end I would like us to have: - 'model packages' - that can be added to Xerte standalone and be used as a 'Page project' or a 'template project', Jonathan and I have that up and running. - that can be added to a xot template through the management page. Tom Op 9-2-2012 10:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Can't we have some sort of 'community' part of the svn where things > that aren't in the main distributed xwd can go for users to add as > they see fit? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 09:17 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Sort of yes but it obviously it depends on how it ends up working. My > concern as we see on this list is that quite a few people can add new > files to their install or request they be added by someone with server > access but unlikely to use xerte desktop to run the php to build the > xwd etc. If we end up with a way of doing that dynamic build of the > xwd in xot as well as desktop that might help a lot. Probably best to > discuss this further on the dev list at some point. > > Meanwhile what about this update of model answer shall I commit that? > > With that in place if you don't want a separate collated results page > (e.g. modelAnswerResults.rlm) that can probably be achieved by > supplying a model file which can be added by anyone who wants it via a > xerte content page. So happy for an additional modelAnswerResults page > or go the xerte content route? > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 08:55 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't > matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an > xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys > wanted to do that, right? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 21:56 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > Ok first a bit of background... > > What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the > stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the > model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out > of date now) > > It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other > installations since that time. It was simply added to the page > templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models > directory. No changes to the .rlt required. > > Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which > collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses > wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. > > As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was > that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they > closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. > Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and > their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate > compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the > clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or > replaced with a print button. > > In response to today's thread... > > I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached > and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? > > It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a > modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so > if it will be included? > > My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing > LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way > we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer > and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing > of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in > terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare > answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that > makes sense ;-) > > Cheers > > Ron > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages > and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could > take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that > is acceptable to the Xerte team. > > If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the > templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets > published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now > with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > > wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included > the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well > as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary > page. > > If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. > > A > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent: *08/02/2012 13:02 > > > *To: *Xerte discussion list > *Subject: *[Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? > > I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates > except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an > individual page template, I figured this could be included in the > default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is > also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it > functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest > of the pages. > > So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically > through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer > so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion > of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. > > Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that > makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need > modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 12:22 > > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include > my two compare answer page types! ;-) > > http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Julian > Tenney > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 11:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT > > We can't create / save a file in Word -- the user can cut and paste at > the minute. 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URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 10:39:52 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:39:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT In-Reply-To: <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> References: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> Message-ID: >From a teaching and learning point of view I always try to keep individual LOs relatively small. The more granular the LOs the more flexibly they can be linked together for different users in different ways. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 February 2012 13:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a xerte limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you shouldn't be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just meant as a play area to try XOT and then establish your own installation where the full benefits can be realised. If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be a php limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the phpinfo and then change php.ini if necessary. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Pedley Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT Hi, I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO's created and exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install on a laptop. Both are giving me "Upload check you can only import zip files" error. I can create, export and upload small LO's into my local install, (5meg) but not import anything created in the sandpit, even after unblocking them in properties. I can create, export and import LO's into the sandpit (49meg) and import test LO's created in my local install into the sandpit. The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. This will not import into the sandpit. Is there a size limit? Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give feedback Thanks Dave Pedley This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Message-ID: <009a01cce71a$da0af960$8e20ec20$@co.uk> Just been quickly trying to dynamically set the width of a button either before it loads or after it has loaded e.g. tried buttonw=150; in a script before the button then w property of the button set as {buttonw} e.g. as the expression value setting the label of the button in this way works fine so not sure why setting the width isn't? Also tried with a script after the button to resize it after loading e.g. mybutton._width=buttonwidth; what stupid mistake am I making? ;-) Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 11:09:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:09:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: setting button width dynamically? In-Reply-To: <009a01cce71a$da0af960$8e20ec20$@co.uk> References: <009a01cce71a$da0af960$8e20ec20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B181@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You don't need the {}. Set butW upfront and refr to it directly in the properties field. IT doesn't need expressioning - that is done in the engine. Before you ask 'why do I need it for paths', there are two steps in that case, going from FileLocation + 'blah.file' to 'http://myPathetc' and then evaluating that string for the actual path. Numbers are numbers. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 February 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] setting button width dynamically? Just been quickly trying to dynamically set the width of a button either before it loads or after it has loaded e.g. tried buttonw=150; in a script before the button then w property of the button set as {buttonw} e.g. as the expression value setting the label of the button in this way works fine so not sure why setting the width isn't? Also tried with a script after the button to resize it after loading e.g. mybutton._width=buttonwidth; what stupid mistake am I making? ;-) Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 9 11:42:03 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:42:03 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: setting button width dynamically? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B181@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <009a01cce71a$da0af960$8e20ec20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B181@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00bc01cce71f$d9d35550$8d79fff0$@co.uk> Ok cheers - understood and works great! Setting the button width based on a multiplication of the number of characters entered for the button label so that in can be a few words rather than one - working well! Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: setting button width dynamically? You don't need the {}. Set butW upfront and refr to it directly in the properties field. IT doesn't need expressioning - that is done in the engine. Before you ask 'why do I need it for paths', there are two steps in that case, going from FileLocation + 'blah.file' to 'http://myPathetc' and then evaluating that string for the actual path. Numbers are numbers. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 February 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] setting button width dynamically? Just been quickly trying to dynamically set the width of a button either before it loads or after it has loaded e.g. tried buttonw=150; in a script before the button then w property of the button set as {buttonw} e.g. as the expression value setting the label of the button in this way works fine so not sure why setting the width isn't? Also tried with a script after the button to resize it after loading e.g. mybutton._width=buttonwidth; what stupid mistake am I making? ;-) Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Feb 9 11:42:54 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:42:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford < thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I?m unable to replicate your issue, I?m afraid. I?ve been ?playing? with > the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can > view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 16:22 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Name: template.zip Type: application/zip Size: 1414285 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 11:42:51 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:42:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <4F339CE0.6070307@tor.nl> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AFFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002901cce70b$851e8c50$8f5ba4f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B05A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F339CE0.6070307@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, that is the idea... Not the svn though, my idea at the moment was a part of the community website, and completely on the risk of the user. Great. Than we can also enable a tracking or voting system of what 'pages/models' are popular and 'upgrade' those to be included in the distribution. Once it's in the distro though, it needs to stay in the distribution - for reasons discussed, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 09 February 2012 10:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Yes, that is the idea... Not the svn though, my idea at the moment was a part of the community website, and completely on the risk of the user. Than we can also enable a tracking or voting system of what 'pages/models' are popular and 'upgrade' those to be included in the distribution. So in summary, in the end I would like us to have: - 'model packages' - that can be added to Xerte standalone and be used as a 'Page project' or a 'template project', Jonathan and I have that up and running. - that can be added to a xot template through the management page. Tom Op 9-2-2012 10:32, Julian Tenney schreef: Can't we have some sort of 'community' part of the svn where things that aren't in the main distributed xwd can go for users to add as they see fit? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 February 2012 09:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Sort of yes but it obviously it depends on how it ends up working. My concern as we see on this list is that quite a few people can add new files to their install or request they be added by someone with server access but unlikely to use xerte desktop to run the php to build the xwd etc. If we end up with a way of doing that dynamic build of the xwd in xot as well as desktop that might help a lot. Probably best to discuss this further on the dev list at some point. Meanwhile what about this update of model answer shall I commit that? With that in place if you don't want a separate collated results page (e.g. modelAnswerResults.rlm) that can probably be achieved by supplying a model file which can be added by anyone who wants it via a xerte content page. So happy for an additional modelAnswerResults page or go the xerte content route? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT I think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it won't matter because folk will be able to more easily be able to create an xwd with whatever models they want in it. This is exactly why you guys wanted to do that, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 11:46:46 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:46:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT In-Reply-To: <00a801cce711$291a9510$7b4fbf30$@racefound.org.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C72@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AC4E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <005101cce65c$3f26d130$bd747390$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AD3A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cce6ac$7a550f60$6eff2e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B073@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a801cce711$291a9510$7b4fbf30$@racefound.org.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1D1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes you can: http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kat Nower Sent: 09 February 2012 09:57 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Can I unsubscribe from this list please? Thanks Kat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 09:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT >My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) This is what to do I think: leave the model in your installations. Take it out of the xwd so new ones are not created anymore, but existing ones continue to work (as long as the model is in the models folder, it will continue to be loaded and used whenever it is encountered in an xml file. New LOs can use the modelAnswer page. So you'll never get all the toothpaste back in the tube, but at least you stop any more coming out. Does that work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 21:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Ok first a bit of background... What I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the stimulating question page and existed and was shared long before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09 http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230 (Note: The downloads there are well out of date now) It proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and other installations since that time. It was simply added to the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt required. Following feedback I also added a compare answer results page which collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and responses wherever that page was added - typically at the end of the LO. As has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer page was that a user could go back and forth through each page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses are remembered on each page. Also when they click the feedback button the instruction, question and their answer for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate compare answer results page all of the results are copied to the clipboard and there was also an email button that could be improved or replaced with a print button. In response to today's thread... I have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you want me to commit this? It also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but happy to do so if it will be included? My dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or something to show model answer and when its developed model answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer option? Hope that makes sense ;-) Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If someone can supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I could take a look at including them in the individual page templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team. If the pages require external support e.g. modifications to the templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that gets published then this would probably mean I would leave them out for now with a view to their inclusion being reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan The features of Ron's model answer pages that were attractive included the copy of the input AND model answer text to the clipboard ad well as the harvesting of all such data from all such slides into a summary page. If we could mainstream that there would be some nice value added. A Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08/02/2012 13:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? I am seeking to include every page from the current page templates except Xerte as there is little point in this existing as an individual page template, I figured this could be included in the default template.xwd before other pages were added. The menu page is also an issue as it is different from the other pages in the way it functions, but I will take a look at it once I have finished the rest of the pages. So yes there will be a model answer page. I am working alphabetically through the model files by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so any ideas about changes to the model answer page or the inclusion of other versions of a model answer page would be quite timely. Are Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is everything that makes them work contained in the rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the template.rlt file, or other supporting files? Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney > wrote: There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-) http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT Hi With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages? Thanks in advance, Andy Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. Is this a server thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. 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A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Feb 9 12:16:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:16:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: the save function strips out some slashes in XOT On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. > > Is this a server thing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > ? ? ?(Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > ? ? ? ?Mitchell) > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ?<12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > > So you start off with \\t > > Save the file, close the editor > > Open it > > And see \t > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > ? ? ?(Ott A (AT)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > ? ? ? ?Mitchell) > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ?<77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > ? ? ?(Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > ? ? ? ?Mitchell) > Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; ? ? ? charset="us-ascii" > > I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on > those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works > with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or > files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single > \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the > latex stuff much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in > front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the > latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) > might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on > the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit > and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new > file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had > replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the > old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only > partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The > formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously > used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > ? 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you > prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it >> elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> >> >> >> Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of >> the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> >> You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, >> in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> >> >> >> If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a >> quiz > score. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> >> >> >> Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not >> totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not >> using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no >> longer relevant to my question.) >> >> >> >> I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export >> the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to >> achieve > this? >> >> >> >> Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the >> ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within >> Blackboard? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct. >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >>> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >>> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >>> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >>> >>> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >>> even better... >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >>> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >>> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >>> work as > 'scorm export'. >>> >>> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >>> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >>> >>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >>> even better... >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >>> line ;-) >>> >>> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >>> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >>> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >>> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >>> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >>> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >>> >>> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >>> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >>> are correct Check the permissions are correct >>> >>> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >>> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >>> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >>> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >>> works >>> >>> HTH >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >>> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >>> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >>> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >>> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >>> so far and for bearing with me! >>> >>> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >>> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >>> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >>> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >>> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >>> advice received to those that do. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> University of the West of England >>> _______________________________ >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> own XOT installation >>> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >>> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >>> >>> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >>> comment/add as >>> follows: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >>> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >>> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >>> way irrelevant at the moment. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >>> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >>> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >>> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >>> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >>> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >>> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >>> McNaught >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> XOT installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >>> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >>> pick up the answers. >>> >>> >>> >>> A >>> >>> >>> >>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >>> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> Haslam >>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >>> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >>> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >>> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >>> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >>> error message saying >>> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >>> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >>> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >>> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >>> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >>> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >>> imported." And can go no further. >>> >>> >>> >>> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7D2C@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00ee01cce724$e2199cb0$a64cd610$@co.uk> It's only happening on the sandpit install as far as I'm aware but I haven't been able to establish where and why so far. Not sure what files to check and don't have time right now but will when I have time. Also the sandpit is meant as a play/exploration area and then for organisations to get their own install - it seems some are using it instead of the latter. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2012 11:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. Is this a server thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. 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Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. Is this a server thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Johnathan > > I?m getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I?m not sure where I > change the flash player settings ? do I need admin rights to do that? > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 11:43 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages > with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford < > thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com> wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I?m unable to replicate your issue, I?m afraid. I?ve been ?playing? with > the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can > view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 16:22 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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(Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00f601cce727$4a2d8620$de889260$@co.uk> The sandpit is hosted by PalePurple and David Goodwin who is also on this list but I support it on behalf of JISC Techdis. It's not clear at the moment if the cause of this is more of a server wide issue or a difference between the sandpit files and other installs. It doesn't happen on any of the other installations I look after but it could still be a difference in file versions. If you're exporting and importing into Blackboard anyway why not just edit with desktop xerte? This screencast covers that: http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_10 HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 09 February 2012 12:22 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. Is this a server thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: , <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: removing backslashes - stripslashes() Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" section above.This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the future. magic quotes turned on? > From: aott at glam.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. > > Is this a server thing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > > So you start off with \\t > > Save the file, close the editor > > Open it > > And see \t > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ott A (AT)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on > those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works > with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or > files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single > \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the > latex stuff much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in > front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the > latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) > might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on > the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit > and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new > file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had > replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the > old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only > partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The > formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously > used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you > prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > > quiz > score. > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > > Haslam > > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > > achieve > this? > > > > > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > > Blackboard? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Oli > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > Oliver Haslam > > > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > > > University of the West of England > > > > _______________________________ > > > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > > Burnett > > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > > XOT installation > > > > > > > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload > >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track > >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes > >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. > >> > >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can > >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. > >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't > >> work as > 'scorm export'. > >> > >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile > >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> Mitchell > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 > >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject > >> line ;-) > >> > >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement > >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like > >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your > >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may > >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will > >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... > >> > >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the > >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths > >> are correct Check the permissions are correct > >> > >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting > >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the > >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try > >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that > >> works > >> > >> HTH > >> Ron > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The > >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the > >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these > >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT > >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help > >> so far and for bearing with me! > >> > >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept > >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export > >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation > >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this > >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any > >> advice received to those that do. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 > >> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> own XOT installation > >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent > >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. > >> > >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would > >> comment/add as > >> follows: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't > >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. > >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a > >> way irrelevant at the moment. > >> > >> > >> > >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit > >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. > >> > >> > >> > >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on > >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import > >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same > >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your > >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. > >> > >> > >> > >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported > >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. > >> > >> > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair > >> McNaught > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in > >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to > >> pick up the answers. > >> > >> > >> > >> A > >> > >> > >> > >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 > >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> > >> > >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer > >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm > >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" > >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version > >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an > >> error message saying > >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> > >> > >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if > >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a > >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit > >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to > >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload > >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently > >> imported." And can go no further. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But > >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... > >> > >> > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> > >> University of the West of England > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 9 13:46:15 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: , <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) removing backslashes - stripslashes() Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" section above. This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the future. magic quotes turned on? > From: aott at glam.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. > > Is this a server thing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > > So you start off with \\t > > Save the file, close the editor > > Open it > > And see \t > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ott A (AT)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on > those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works > with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or > files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single > \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t , but I haven't used the > latex stuff much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in > front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the > latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) > might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on > the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit > and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new > file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had > replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the > old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only > partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The > formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously > used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you > prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > > quiz > score. > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > > Haslam > > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > > achieve > this? > > > > > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > > Blackboard? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Oli > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > Oliver Haslam > > > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > > > University of the West of England > > > > _______________________________ > > > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > > Burnett > > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > > XOT installation > > > > > > > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload > >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track > >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes > >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. > >> > >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can > >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. > >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't > >> work as > 'scorm export'. > >> > >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile > >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> Mitchell > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 > >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject > >> line ;-) > >> > >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement > >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like > >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your > >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may > >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will > >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... > >> > >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the > >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths > >> are correct Check the permissions are correct > >> > >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting > >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the > >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try > >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that > >> works > >> > >> HTH > >> Ron > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The > >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the > >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these > >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT > >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help > >> so far and for bearing with me! > >> > >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept > >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export > >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation > >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this > >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any > >> advice received to those that do. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 > >> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> own XOT installation > >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent > >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. > >> > >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would > >> comment/add as > >> follows: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't > >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. > >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a > >> way irrelevant at the moment. > >> > >> > >> > >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit > >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. > >> > >> > >> > >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on > >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import > >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same > >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your > >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. > >> > >> > >> > >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported > >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. > >> > >> > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair > >> McNaught > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in > >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to > >> pick up the answers. > >> > >> > >> > >> A > >> > >> > >> > >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 > >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> > >> > >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer > >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm > >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" > >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version > >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an > >> error message saying > >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> > >> > >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if > >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a > >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit > >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to > >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload > >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently > >> imported." And can go no further. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But > >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... > >> > >> > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> > >> University of the West of England > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with > > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:09:56 -0000 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Alistair > > you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display > latex and also work offline when exported. > > Let me know if you encounter any further problems. > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > > > Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > > > Hi Alistair > > ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught > Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > > > Hi Ron > > Many thanks for speedy response. > > > > 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT > > 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but > leaves blank spaces. > > > > Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? > > > > A > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > > > Alistair > > I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I > think you'll find it works now? > > > > However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the > following: > > > > 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? > > 2. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 14:01:49 2012 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:01:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7EBD@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Thanks, I will try to edit it in the desk top version at a later date and take out the latex for now. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 09 February 2012 12:35 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 72 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Google Map page (Kemp Johnathan) 2. Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:31:16 +0000 From: Kemp Johnathan To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Johnathan > > I?m getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I?m not sure where I > change the flash player settings ? do I need admin rights to do that? > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 11:43 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages > with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford < > thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com> wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I?m unable to replicate your issue, I?m afraid. I?ve been ?playing? with > the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can > view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 16:22 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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(Julian Tenney) Message-ID: <00f601cce727$4a2d8620$de889260$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The sandpit is hosted by PalePurple and David Goodwin who is also on this list but I support it on behalf of JISC Techdis. It's not clear at the moment if the cause of this is more of a server wide issue or a difference between the sandpit files and other installs. It doesn't happen on any of the other installations I look after but it could still be a difference in file versions. If you're exporting and importing into Blackboard anyway why not just edit with desktop xerte? This screencast covers that: http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/resources/xerte#p7HGMpc_1_10 HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 09 February 2012 12:22 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. Is this a server thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian Tenney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. So you start off with \\t Save the file, close the editor Open it And see \t ? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the latex stuff much. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. ? For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the latex is only partially working. I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on the server? Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) Hi Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. Is there a way to work around this? Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 From: Pat Lockley To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > quiz score. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > achieve this? > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > Blackboard? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > XOT installation > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Why? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Hi >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> work as 'scorm export'. >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> even better... >> >> Best >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> line ;-) >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> works >> >> HTH >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> advice received to those that do. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Oli >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> own XOT installation >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> comment/add as >> follows: >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> McNaught >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> Haslam >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> error message saying >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Alistair you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both display latex and also work offline when exported. Let me know if you encounter any further problems. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on loading From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Alistair ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi Ron Many thanks for speedy response. 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any latex but leaves blank spaces. Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Alistair I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try again I think you'll find it works now? However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer the following: 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing between lines not quite right? Cheers Ron BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? Hi all I previously creates a learning object at http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how to create formulae using simple Latex expressions. I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object (above) will correctly display the formulae now. 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Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> References: , , <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, , <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> Message-ID: But stripslashes() is independent of that? From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) magic quotes are off on the sandpit. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) removing backslashes - stripslashes() Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" section above.This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the future. magic quotes turned on? > From: aott at glam.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted with you? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all come back intact. > > Is this a server thing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > > The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > > So you start off with \\t > > Save the file, close the editor > > Open it > > And see \t > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ott A (AT)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: > <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > From: "Ron Mitchell" > To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > Mitchell) > Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on > those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works > with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file or > files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a single > \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the > latex stuff much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash in > front of times and frac etc e.g. > ? > > For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why the > latex is only partially working. > > I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what file(s) > might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on > the server? > > Cheers > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > Hi > > Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit > and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new > file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had > replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. > > Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported the > old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only > partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The > formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously > used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > > Is there a way to work around this? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > From: Pat Lockley > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > > As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content > tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you > prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it > > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > > > > > > > > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of > > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > > > > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, > > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > > > > > > > > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a > > quiz > score. > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > > Haslam > > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > > > > > > > > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not > > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not > > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no > > longer relevant to my question.) > > > > > > > > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export > > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to > > achieve > this? > > > > > > > > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the > > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within > > Blackboard? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Oli > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > Oliver Haslam > > > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > > > University of the West of England > > > > _______________________________ > > > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > > Burnett > > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > > XOT installation > > > > > > > > > > > > That is correct. > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload > >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track > >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes > >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. > >> > >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can > >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. > >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't > >> work as > 'scorm export'. > >> > >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile > >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." > >> > >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be > >> even better... > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> Mitchell > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 > >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject > >> line ;-) > >> > >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement > >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like > >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your > >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may > >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will > >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... > >> > >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the > >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths > >> are correct Check the permissions are correct > >> > >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting > >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the > >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try > >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that > >> works > >> > >> HTH > >> Ron > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> Tenney > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The > >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > server? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the > >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these > >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT > >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help > >> so far and for bearing with me! > >> > >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept > >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export > >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation > >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this > >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any > >> advice received to those that do. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> University of the West of England > >> _______________________________ > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 > >> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> own XOT installation > >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent > >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. > >> > >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would > >> comment/add as > >> follows: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't > >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. > >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a > >> way irrelevant at the moment. > >> > >> > >> > >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit > >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. > >> > >> > >> > >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on > >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import > >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same > >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your > >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. > >> > >> > >> > >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported > >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. > >> > >> > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair > >> McNaught > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> XOT installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in > >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to > >> pick up the answers. > >> > >> > >> > >> A > >> > >> > >> > >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> Haslam > >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 > >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> installation > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> > >> > >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer > >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm > >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" > >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version > >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an > >> error message saying > >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> > >> > >> > >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if > >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a > >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit > >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ > >> > >> > >> > >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to > >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload > >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently > >> imported." And can go no further. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But > >> it seems the sandpit is not happy either... > >> > >> > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> > >> > >> Oli > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> Oliver Haslam > >> > >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> > >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> > >> > >> > >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> > >> University of the West of England > >> > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Xerte mailing list > >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> > >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > >> and may contain confidential information. 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(Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> Message-ID: some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. See what gets saved. Behold the answer! On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > But? stripslashes()? is independent of that? > > ________________________________ > From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > Tenney) > > magic quotes are off on the sandpit. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > Tenney) > > > > > > removing backslashes - stripslashes() > > > > Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's smart to > add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" section above. > > This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are legitimate in > the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the future. > > > > magic quotes turned on? > > > > > > > >> From: aott at glam.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is hosted >> with you? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to >> xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 >> From: Julian Tenney >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> Message-ID: >> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they all >> come back intact. >> >> Is this a server thing? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into the >> formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders fine; I also >> seem to be able to export it and import it into Blackboard as long as I do >> not close the LO in the sandpit. If I close the LO, and subsequently select >> it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. >> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to >> xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> (Julian Tenney) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 >> From: Julian Tenney >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: >> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. >> >> So you start off with \\t >> >> Save the file, close the editor >> >> Open it >> >> And see \t >> >> ? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> >> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ >> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes one of >> the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and the formulae do >> not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops the removal of the >> dashes, I would be grateful if you could please let me know because it was a >> useful way of displaying formulae. >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to >> xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> (Ott A (AT)) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 >> From: "Ott A (AT)" >> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: >> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi >> >> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should have >> been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, and the >> formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and imported the >> LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex last year, but it >> is the only time I have used it: It worked fine last year and a few weeks >> ago when I added the new swf file. I can only vaguely remember how I put >> this together according to some guidance on the web >> http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So I did not notice that >> there where dashes missing from my formulae. For now I will add \\ to the >> formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to >> xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> (Ron Mitchell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within latex on >> those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single slash but works >> with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to identify exactly which file >> or >> files are different or required for single \ to work. :-( >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a >> single >> \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I haven't used the >> latex stuff much. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the backslash >> in >> front of times and frac etc e.g. >> ? >> >> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is why >> the >> latex is only partially working. >> >> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what >> file(s) >> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace them on >> the server? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> >> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the sandpit >> and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly directed me to a new >> file to use instead of the old one, this was the XMLEngine.swf. Once I had >> replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. >> >> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I imported >> the >> old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The formulae are only >> partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' instead of 'x'. The >> formulae are also not working when I import the new LO with the previously >> used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. >> >> Is there a way to work around this? >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to >> xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) >> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 >> From: Pat Lockley >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. >> >> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open content >> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, if you >> prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it >> > elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> > >> > >> > >> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of >> > the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> > >> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, >> > in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> > >> > >> > >> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a >> > quiz >> score. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> > Haslam >> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still not >> > totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m not >> > using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no >> > longer relevant to my question.) >> > >> > >> > >> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export >> > the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into Blackboard to >> > achieve >> this? >> > >> > >> > >> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with the >> > ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have within >> > Blackboard? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > >> > Oli >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> > Oliver Haslam >> > >> > Course Developer (Technologist) >> > >> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> > >> > >> > >> > Technology Enhanced Learning >> > >> > University of the West of England >> > >> > _______________________________ >> > >> > T: 0117 32 88215 >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> > Burnett >> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> > To: Xerte list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> > XOT installation >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > That is correct. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload >> >> them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track >> >> how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes >> >> etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> >> even better... >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >> Haslam >> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> >> work as >> 'scorm export'. >> >> >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be >> >> even better... >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> >> line ;-) >> >> >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement >> >> that creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like >> >> exporting and importing. Clearly something isn't right with your >> >> install and if you don't have access to the server yourself you may >> >> need to get whoever does to subscribe and post to this list. Pat will >> >> no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths >> >> are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting >> >> and importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the >> >> same install before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try >> >> the sandpit import and post further questions if everything but that >> >> works >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the >> server? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >> Haslam >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> >> installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the >> >> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT >> >> problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all the help >> >> so far and for bearing with me! >> >> >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept >> >> only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export >> >> issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation >> >> of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this >> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any >> >> advice received to those that do. >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> - >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> >> comment/add as >> >> follows: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a >> >> way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on >> >> your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import >> >> that back into the same installation. Does that work without the same >> >> errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve the issue with your >> >> installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair >> >> McNaught >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to >> >> pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >> Haslam >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> >> installation >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer >> >> the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm >> >> having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version >> >> of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an >> >> error message saying >> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if >> >> that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a >> >> "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit >> >> and taken to the login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to >> >> import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> >> imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? 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Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up - see screenshots. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 12:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan I'm getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I'm not sure where I change the flash player settings - do I need admin rights to do that? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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(Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk> That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a single backslash is removed until none are left. So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each time isn't realistic. So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are off? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. See what gets saved. Behold the answer! On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > But? stripslashes()? is independent of that? > > ________________________________ > From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > (Julian > Tenney) > > magic quotes are off on the sandpit. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > Burnett > Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > (Julian > Tenney) > > > > > > removing backslashes - stripslashes() > > > > Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's > smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" section above. > > This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are > legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the future. > > > > magic quotes turned on? > > > > > > > >> From: aott at glam.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is >> hosted with you? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 >> From: Julian Tenney >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> Message-ID: >> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >> c.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they >> all come back intact. >> >> Is this a server thing? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into >> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders >> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into >> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I >> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each time it removes a \ until none is left. >> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 >> From: Julian Tenney >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: >> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >> c.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. >> >> So you start off with \\t >> >> Save the file, close the editor >> >> Open it >> >> And see \t >> >> ? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> >> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ >> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes >> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and >> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops >> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please >> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A >> (AT)) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 >> From: "Ott A (AT)" >> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: >> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi >> >> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should >> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, >> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and >> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex >> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine >> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can >> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some >> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So >> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. >> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some other stage? >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron >> Mitchell) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within >> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single >> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to >> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for >> single \ to work. :-( >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> >> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a >> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I >> haven't used the latex stuff much. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the >> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. >> ? >> >> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is >> why the latex is only partially working. >> >> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what >> file(s) >> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace >> them on the server? >> >> Cheers >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> Mitchell) >> >> Hi >> >> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the >> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly >> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the >> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in Blackboard. >> >> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I >> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The >> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' >> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the >> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. >> >> Is there a way to work around this? >> >> Many thanks, Alex. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 >> >> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than >> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) >> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 >> From: Pat Lockley >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. >> >> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open >> content >> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, >> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import >> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> > >> > >> > >> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL >> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> > >> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the >> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> > >> > >> > >> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get >> > a quiz >> score. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> > Haslam >> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still >> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m >> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is >> > no longer relevant to my question.) >> > >> > >> > >> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to >> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into >> > Blackboard to achieve >> this? >> > >> > >> > >> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with >> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have >> > within Blackboard? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > >> > Oli >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> > Oliver Haslam >> > >> > Course Developer (Technologist) >> > >> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> > >> > >> > >> > Technology Enhanced Learning >> > >> > University of the West of England >> > >> > _______________________________ >> > >> > T: 0117 32 88215 >> > >> > >> > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> > Burnett >> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> > To: Xerte list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> > own XOT installation >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > That is correct. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can >> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to >> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results >> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >> >> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >> >> be even better... >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >> Haslam >> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> >> work as >> 'scorm export'. >> >> >> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >> >> >> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >> >> be even better... >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >> Mitchell >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> >> line ;-) >> >> >> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental >> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before >> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something >> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the >> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and >> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but my list would be... >> >> >> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various >> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >> >> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying >> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and >> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit >> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further >> >> questions if everything but that works >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >> Tenney >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the >> server? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >> Haslam >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >> XOT installation >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to >> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more >> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all >> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! >> >> >> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have >> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is >> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our >> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to >> >> play it I get this >> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on >> >> any advice received to those that do. >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> --- >> >> - >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to >> >> our own XOT installation >> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >> >> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> >> comment/add as >> >> follows: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in >> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO >> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to >> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work >> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve >> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues with the sandpit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >> Alistair McNaught >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >> own XOT installation >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here >> >> to pick up the answers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> >> installation >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to >> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of >> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully received! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own >> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I >> >> get an error message saying >> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see >> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or >> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the >> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: >> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try >> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are >> >> currently imported." And can go no further. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? >> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> >> >> University of the West of England >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Xerte mailing list >> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Xerte mailing list >> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk> References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk> Message-ID: well if it works at Nottingham? On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a > single backslash is removed until none are left. > > So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the > backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each > time isn't realistic. > > So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is > off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or > has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are > off? > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > Tenney) > > some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. > > See what gets saved. > > Behold the answer! > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> But? stripslashes()? is independent of that? >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> >> >> >> >> removing backslashes - stripslashes() >> >> >> >> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's >> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" > section above. >> >> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are >> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the > future. >> >> >> >> magic quotes turned on? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >>> Tenney) >>> >>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is >>> hosted with you? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 >>> From: Julian Tenney >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >>> Message-ID: >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >>> c.uk> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they >>> all come back intact. >>> >>> Is this a server thing? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >>> >>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into >>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders >>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into >>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I >>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each > time it removes a \ until none is left. >>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian >>> Tenney) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 >>> From: Julian Tenney >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >>> c.uk> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. >>> >>> So you start off with \\t >>> >>> Save the file, close the editor >>> >>> Open it >>> >>> And see \t >>> >>> ? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ >>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes >>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and >>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops >>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please >>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A >>> (AT)) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 >>> From: "Ott A (AT)" >>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: >>> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should >>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, >>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and >>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex >>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine >>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can >>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some >>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So >>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. >>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some > other stage? >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within >>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single >>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to >>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for >>> single \ to work. :-( >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a >>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I >>> haven't used the latex stuff much. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the >>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. >>> ? >>> >>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is >>> why the latex is only partially working. >>> >>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what >>> file(s) >>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace >>> them on the server? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the >>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly >>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the >>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in > Blackboard. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I >>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The >>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' >>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the >>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. >>> >>> Is there a way to work around this? >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than >>> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) >>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 >>> From: Pat Lockley >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> >>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. >>> >>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open >>> content >>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, >>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import >>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL >>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >>> > >>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the >>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get >>> > a quiz >>> score. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> > Haslam >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >>> > To: Xerte discussion list >>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still >>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m >>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is >>> > no longer relevant to my question.) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to >>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into >>> > Blackboard to achieve >>> this? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with >>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have >>> > within Blackboard? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Oli >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Oliver Haslam >>> > >>> > Course Developer (Technologist) >>> > >>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Technology Enhanced Learning >>> > >>> > University of the West of England >>> > >>> > _______________________________ >>> > >>> > T: 0117 32 88215 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >>> > Burnett >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >>> > To: Xerte list >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> > own XOT installation >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > That is correct. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can >>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to >>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results >>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >>> >> >>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> >> Tenney >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> >> be even better... >>> >> >>> >> Why? >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> >> Haslam >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >>> >> work as >>> 'scorm export'. >>> >> >>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >>> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> >> be even better... >>> >> >>> >> Best >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> >> Mitchell >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >>> >> line ;-) >>> >> >>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental >>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before >>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something >>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the >>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and >>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but > my list would be... >>> >> >>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various >>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct >>> >> >>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying >>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and >>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit >>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further >>> >> questions if everything but that works >>> >> >>> >> HTH >>> >> Ron >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> >> Tenney >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the >>> server? >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> >> Haslam >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> >> XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to >>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more >>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all >>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! >>> >> >>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have >>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is >>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our >>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to >>> >> play it I get this >>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >> >>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on >>> >> any advice received to those that do. >>> >> >>> >> Many thanks >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> --- >>> >> - >>> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to >>> >> our own XOT installation >>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >> >>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >>> >> >>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >>> >> comment/add as >>> >> follows: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in >>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO >>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to >>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work >>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve >>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues > with the sandpit. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> HTH >>> >> >>> >> Ron >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> >> Alistair McNaught >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi all >>> >> >>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here >>> >> to pick up the answers. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> A >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> >> installation >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to >>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of >>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully > received! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own >>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I >>> >> get an error message saying >>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see >>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or >>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the >>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: >>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try >>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are >>> >> currently imported." And can go no further. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? >>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte mailing list >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte mailing list >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? >>> >>> 2. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 9 15:07:11 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:07:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA1963AB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It does. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 February 2012 15:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) well if it works at Nottingham? On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a > single backslash is removed until none are left. > > So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the > backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each > time isn't realistic. > > So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is > off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or > has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are > off? > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > Tenney) > > some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. > > See what gets saved. > > Behold the answer! > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: >> But stripslashes() is independent of that? >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> Burnett >> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 >> To: Xerte list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> >> >> >> >> removing backslashes - stripslashes() >> >> >> >> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's >> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" > section above. >> >> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are >> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the > future. >> >> >> >> magic quotes turned on? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 >>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >>> Tenney) >>> >>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is >>> hosted with you? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 >>> From: Julian Tenney >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >>> Message-ID: >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >>> c.uk> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they >>> all come back intact. >>> >>> Is this a server thing? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >>> >>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into >>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders >>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into >>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I >>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each > time it removes a \ until none is left. >>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian >>> Tenney) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 >>> From: Julian Tenney >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >>> c.uk> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. >>> >>> So you start off with \\t >>> >>> Save the file, close the editor >>> >>> Open it >>> >>> And see \t >>> >>> ? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ >>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes >>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and >>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops >>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please >>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A >>> (AT)) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 >>> From: "Ott A (AT)" >>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: >>> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should >>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, >>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and >>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex >>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine >>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can >>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some >>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So >>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. >>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some > other stage? >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within >>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single >>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to >>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for >>> single \ to work. :-( >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a >>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I >>> haven't used the latex stuff much. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the >>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. >>> ? >>> >>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is >>> why the latex is only partially working. >>> >>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what >>> file(s) >>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace >>> them on the server? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >>> Mitchell) >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the >>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly >>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the >>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in > Blackboard. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I >>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The >>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' >>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the >>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. >>> >>> Is there a way to work around this? >>> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 >>> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than >>> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) >>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 >>> From: Pat Lockley >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> >>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. >>> >>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open >>> content >>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, >>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import >>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL >>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >>> > >>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the >>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get >>> > a quiz >>> score. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> > Haslam >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >>> > To: Xerte discussion list >>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still >>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m >>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is >>> > no longer relevant to my question.) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to >>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into >>> > Blackboard to achieve >>> this? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with >>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have >>> > within Blackboard? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Oli >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Oliver Haslam >>> > >>> > Course Developer (Technologist) >>> > >>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Technology Enhanced Learning >>> > >>> > University of the West of England >>> > >>> > _______________________________ >>> > >>> > T: 0117 32 88215 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >>> > Burnett >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >>> > To: Xerte list >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> > own XOT installation >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > That is correct. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can >>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to >>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results >>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >>> >> >>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> >> Tenney >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> >> be even better... >>> >> >>> >> Why? >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> >> Haslam >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >>> >> work as >>> 'scorm export'. >>> >> >>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." >>> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >>> >> be even better... >>> >> >>> >> Best >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> >> Mitchell >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >>> >> line ;-) >>> >> >>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental >>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before >>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something >>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the >>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and >>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but > my list would be... >>> >> >>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various >>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct >>> >> >>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying >>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and >>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit >>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further >>> >> questions if everything but that works >>> >> >>> >> HTH >>> >> Ron >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> >> Tenney >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the >>> server? >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >>> >> Haslam >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >>> >> XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to >>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more >>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all >>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! >>> >> >>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have >>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is >>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our >>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to >>> >> play it I get this >>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >> >>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on >>> >> any advice received to those that do. >>> >> >>> >> Many thanks >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> --- >>> >> - >>> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to >>> >> our own XOT installation >>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >> >>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >>> >> >>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >>> >> comment/add as >>> >> follows: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. >>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in >>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO >>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to >>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work >>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve >>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues > with the sandpit. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> HTH >>> >> >>> >> Ron >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> >> Alistair McNaught >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >>> >> own XOT installation >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi all >>> >> >>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here >>> >> to pick up the answers. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> A >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >>> >> installation >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to >>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of >>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully > received! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own >>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I >>> >> get an error message saying >>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see >>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or >>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the >>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: >>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try >>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are >>> >> currently imported." And can go no further. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? >>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oli >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >>> >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >> >>> >> University of the West of England >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >>> >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte mailing list >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Xerte mailing list >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 9 15:16:48 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:16:48 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA1963AB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, , <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk>, , , <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA1963AB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: But I think stripslashes() is independent of magic quotes.e.g. they just suggest checking the status of magic quotes so you don't screw it up. So regardless of magic quote settings, has a stripslashes() crept in somewhere? > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:07:11 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > It does. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 February 2012 15:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > well if it works at Nottingham? > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > > That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a > > single backslash is removed until none are left. > > > > So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the > > backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each > > time isn't realistic. > > > > So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is > > off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or > > has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are > > off? > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > > Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > > Tenney) > > > > some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. > > > > See what gets saved. > > > > Behold the answer! > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett > > wrote: > >> But stripslashes() is independent of that? > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 > >> > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> (Julian > >> Tenney) > >> > >> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> Burnett > >> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 > >> To: Xerte list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> (Julian > >> Tenney) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> removing backslashes - stripslashes() > >> > >> > >> > >> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's > >> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" > > section above. > >> > >> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are > >> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the > > future. > >> > >> > >> > >> magic quotes turned on? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 > >>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > >>> Tenney) > >>> > >>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is > >>> hosted with you? > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 > >>> > >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 > >>> From: Julian Tenney > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a > >>> c.uk> > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they > >>> all come back intact. > >>> > >>> Is this a server thing? > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >>> > >>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into > >>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders > >>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into > >>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I > >>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each > > time it removes a \ until none is left. > >>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > >>> > >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian > >>> Tenney) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > >>> From: Julian Tenney > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a > >>> c.uk> > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > >>> > >>> So you start off with \\t > >>> > >>> Save the file, close the editor > >>> > >>> Open it > >>> > >>> And see \t > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ > >>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes > >>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and > >>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops > >>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please > >>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > >>> > >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > >>> > >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A > >>> (AT)) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > >>> From: "Ott A (AT)" > >>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should > >>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, > >>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and > >>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex > >>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine > >>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can > >>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some > >>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So > >>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. > >>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some > > other stage? > >>> > >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > >>> > >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within > >>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single > >>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to > >>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for > >>> single \ to work. :-( > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >>> Tenney > >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> > >>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a > >>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I > >>> haven't used the latex stuff much. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >>> Mitchell > >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the > >>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is > >>> why the latex is only partially working. > >>> > >>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what > >>> file(s) > >>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace > >>> them on the server? > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Ron > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >>> Mitchell) > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the > >>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly > >>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the > >>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in > > Blackboard. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I > >>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The > >>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' > >>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the > >>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > >>> > >>> Is there a way to work around this? > >>> > >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > >>> > >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than > >>> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > >>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > >>> From: Pat Lockley > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > >>> Message-ID: > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >>> > >>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > >>> > >>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open > >>> content > >>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, > >>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > >>> wrote: > >>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > >>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import > >>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL > >>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > >>> > > >>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the > >>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > >>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get > >>> > a quiz > >>> score. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >>> > Haslam > >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > >>> > To: Xerte discussion list > >>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still > >>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m > >>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is > >>> > no longer relevant to my question.) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > >>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to > >>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into > >>> > Blackboard to achieve > >>> this? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with > >>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have > >>> > within Blackboard? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Thanks > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Oli > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Oliver Haslam > >>> > > >>> > Course Developer (Technologist) > >>> > > >>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Technology Enhanced Learning > >>> > > >>> > University of the West of England > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________ > >>> > > >>> > T: 0117 32 88215 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >>> > Burnett > >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > >>> > To: Xerte list > >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> > own XOT installation > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > That is correct. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk > >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can > >>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to > >>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results > >>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. > >>> >> > >>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks > >>> >> > >>> >> Oli > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >>> >> > >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >>> >> University of the West of England > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >>> >> Tenney > >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 > >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would > >>> >> be even better... > >>> >> > >>> >> Why? > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >>> >> Haslam > >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 > >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi > >>> >> > >>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can > >>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. > >>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't > >>> >> work as > >>> 'scorm export'. > >>> >> > >>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile > >>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." > >>> >> > >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would > >>> >> be even better... > >>> >> > >>> >> Best > >>> >> > >>> >> Oli > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >>> >> > >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >>> >> University of the West of England > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >>> >> Mitchell > >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 > >>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject > >>> >> line ;-) > >>> >> > >>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental > >>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before > >>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something > >>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the > >>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and > >>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but > > my list would be... > >>> >> > >>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the > >>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various > >>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct > >>> >> > >>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying > >>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and > >>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit > >>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further > >>> >> questions if everything but that works > >>> >> > >>> >> HTH > >>> >> Ron > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >>> >> Tenney > >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 > >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The > >>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > >>> server? > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >>> >> Haslam > >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 > >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >>> >> XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi > >>> >> > >>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to > >>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these > >>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more > >>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all > >>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! > >>> >> > >>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have > >>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is > >>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our > >>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to > >>> >> play it I get this > >>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >>> >> > >>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on > >>> >> any advice received to those that do. > >>> >> > >>> >> Many thanks > >>> >> > >>> >> Oli > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >>> >> > >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >>> >> University of the West of England > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> >> --- > >>> >> - > >>> >> > >>> >> Message: 1 > >>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 > >>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to > >>> >> our own XOT installation > >>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> > >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> >> > >>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent > >>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. > >>> >> > >>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would > >>> >> comment/add as > >>> >> follows: > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't > >>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. > >>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in > >>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit > >>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO > >>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to > >>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work > >>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve > >>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues > > with the sandpit. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported > >>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> HTH > >>> >> > >>> >> Ron > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >>> >> Alistair McNaught > >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 > >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >>> >> own XOT installation > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi all > >>> >> > >>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in > >>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here > >>> >> to pick up the answers. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> A > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > >>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 > >>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >>> >> installation > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to > >>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of > >>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully > > received! > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" > >>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own > >>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I > >>> >> get an error message saying > >>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see > >>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or > >>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the > >>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: > >>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try > >>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload > >>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are > >>> >> currently imported." And can go no further. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? > >>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Any suggestions? > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Oli > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >>> >> > >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >>> >> > >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >>> >> > >>> >> University of the West of England > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Xerte mailing list > >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Xerte mailing list > >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>> >> > >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > >>> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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(Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk> <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA1963AB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: there is a stripslashes in the save function in the php else the saved file has \" for every " without it when XOT opens it, it dies On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > But I think?stripslashes() is independent of magic quotes. > e.g. they just suggest checking the status of magic quotes so you don't > screw it up. > > So regardless of magic quote settings, has a stripslashes() crept in > somewhere? > > > >> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:07:11 +0000 >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> It does. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 February 2012 15:05 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> Tenney) >> >> well if it works at Nottingham? >> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell >> wrote: >> > That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is >> > published/saved a >> > single backslash is removed until none are left. >> > >> > So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the >> > backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes >> > each >> > time isn't realistic. >> > >> > So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic >> > quotes is >> > off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting >> > or >> > has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are >> > off? >> > >> > Ron >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> > Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 >> > To: Xerte discussion list >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> > Tenney) >> > >> > some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. >> > >> > See what gets saved. >> > >> > Behold the answer! >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett >> > wrote: >> >> But stripslashes() is independent of that? >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 >> >> >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >> (Julian >> >> Tenney) >> >> >> >> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> >> Burnett >> >> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 >> >> To: Xerte list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >> (Julian >> >> Tenney) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> removing backslashes - stripslashes() >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's >> >> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" >> > section above. >> >> >> >> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are >> >> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in >> >> the >> > future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> magic quotes turned on? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian >> >>> Tenney) >> >>> >> >>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is >> >>> hosted with you? >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 >> >>> >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 >> >>> From: Julian Tenney >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >>> Message-ID: >> >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >> >>> c.uk> >> >>> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>> >> >>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they >> >>> all come back intact. >> >>> >> >>> Is this a server thing? >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? >> >>> >> >>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into >> >>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders >> >>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into >> >>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I >> >>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, >> >>> each >> > time it removes a \ until none is left. >> >>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the >> >>> LO. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 >> >>> >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian >> >>> Tenney) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 >> >>> From: Julian Tenney >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> Message-ID: >> >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a >> >>> c.uk> >> >>> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>> >> >>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. >> >>> >> >>> So you start off with \\t >> >>> >> >>> Save the file, close the editor >> >>> >> >>> Open it >> >>> >> >>> And see \t >> >>> >> >>> ? >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ >> >>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes >> >>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and >> >>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops >> >>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please >> >>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 >> >>> >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A >> >>> (AT)) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 >> >>> From: "Ott A (AT)" >> >>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> Message-ID: >> >>> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should >> >>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, >> >>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and >> >>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex >> >>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine >> >>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can >> >>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some >> >>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So >> >>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. >> >>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at >> >>> some >> > other stage? >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 >> >>> >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 >> >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>> >> >>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within >> >>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single >> >>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to >> >>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for >> >>> single \ to work. :-( >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >>> Tenney >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a >> >>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I >> >>> haven't used the latex stuff much. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >>> Mitchell >> >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the >> >>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. >> >>> ? >> >>> >> >>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is >> >>> why the latex is only partially working. >> >>> >> >>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what >> >>> file(s) >> >>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace >> >>> them on the server? >> >>> >> >>> Cheers >> >>> Ron >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) >> >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron >> >>> Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the >> >>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly >> >>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the >> >>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in >> > Blackboard. >> >>> >> >>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I >> >>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The >> >>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' >> >>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the >> >>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. >> >>> >> >>> Is there a way to work around this? >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 >> >>> >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >>> than >> >>> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Today's Topics: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) >> >>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 >> >>> From: Pat Lockley >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? >> >>> Message-ID: >> >>> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >>> >> >>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. >> >>> >> >>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open >> >>> content >> >>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, >> >>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some >> >>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import >> >>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL >> >>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. >> >>> > >> >>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the >> >>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into >> >>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get >> >>> > a quiz >> >>> score. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >>> > Haslam >> >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 >> >>> > To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still >> >>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m >> >>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is >> >>> > no longer relevant to my question.) >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the >> >>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to >> >>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into >> >>> > Blackboard to achieve >> >>> this? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with >> >>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have >> >>> > within Blackboard? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Oli >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Oliver Haslam >> >>> > >> >>> > Course Developer (Technologist) >> >>> > >> >>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Technology Enhanced Learning >> >>> > >> >>> > University of the West of England >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________ >> >>> > >> >>> > T: 0117 32 88215 >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave >> >>> > Burnett >> >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 >> >>> > To: Xerte list >> >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> > own XOT installation >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > That is correct. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk >> >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can >> >>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to >> >>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results >> >>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oli >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >>> >> University of the West of England >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >>> >> Tenney >> >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >> >>> >> be even better... >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Why? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >>> >> Haslam >> >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi >> >>> >> >> >>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can >> >>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. >> >>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't >> >>> >> work as >> >>> 'scorm export'. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile >> >>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently >> >>> >> imported." >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would >> >>> >> be even better... >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Best >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oli >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >>> >> University of the West of England >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> >>> >> Mitchell >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 >> >>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject >> >>> >> line ;-) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental >> >>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before >> >>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something >> >>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the >> >>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and >> >>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions >> >>> >> but >> > my list would be... >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the >> >>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various >> >>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying >> >>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and >> >>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit >> >>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further >> >>> >> questions if everything but that works >> >>> >> >> >>> >> HTH >> >>> >> Ron >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> >>> >> Tenney >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The >> >>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the >> >>> server? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver >> >>> >> Haslam >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 >> >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own >> >>> >> XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi >> >>> >> >> >>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to >> >>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these >> >>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more >> >>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all >> >>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have >> >>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is >> >>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our >> >>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to >> >>> >> play it I get this >> >>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't >> >>> >> play. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on >> >>> >> any advice received to those that do. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Many thanks >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oli >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >>> >> University of the West of England >> >>> >> _______________________________ >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> --- >> >>> >> - >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >> >>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 >> >>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" >> >>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to >> >>> >> our own XOT installation >> >>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> >> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent >> >>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would >> >>> >> comment/add as >> >>> >> follows: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't >> >>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata >> >>> >> export. >> >>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in >> >>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit >> >>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO >> >>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to >> >>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work >> >>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve >> >>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any >> >>> >> issues >> > with the sandpit. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported >> >>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> HTH >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Ron >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >> >>> >> Alistair McNaught >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our >> >>> >> own XOT installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi all >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in >> >>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here >> >>> >> to pick up the answers. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> A >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online >> >>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 >> >>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> >>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT >> >>> >> installation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to >> >>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of >> >>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very >> >>> >> gratefully >> > received! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" >> >>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own >> >>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I >> >>> >> get an error message saying >> >>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see >> >>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or >> >>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the >> >>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: >> >>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try >> >>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload >> >>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are >> >>> >> currently imported." 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If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 9 15:55:44 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:55:44 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) In-Reply-To: References: , <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7E8E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk>, , <011301cce731$338c53b0$9aa4fb10$@co.uk>, , , <012701cce738$c2c77c60$48567520$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA1963AB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: missing slashes = stripslashes() Ockhams razor :-) > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:20:40 +0000 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > > there is a stripslashes in the save function in the php else the saved > file has \" for every " > without it when XOT opens it, it dies > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > > > But I think stripslashes() is independent of magic quotes. > > e.g. they just suggest checking the status of magic quotes so you don't > > screw it up. > > > > So regardless of magic quote settings, has a stripslashes() crept in > > somewhere? > > > > > > > >> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:07:11 +0000 > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > >> Tenney) > >> > >> It does. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >> Sent: 09 February 2012 15:05 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > >> Tenney) > >> > >> well if it works at Nottingham? > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell > >> wrote: > >> > That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is > >> > published/saved a > >> > single backslash is removed until none are left. > >> > > >> > So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the > >> > backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes > >> > each > >> > time isn't realistic. > >> > > >> > So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic > >> > quotes is > >> > off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting > >> > or > >> > has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are > >> > off? > >> > > >> > Ron > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >> > Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19 > >> > To: Xerte discussion list > >> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > >> > Tenney) > >> > > >> > some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field. > >> > > >> > See what gets saved. > >> > > >> > Behold the answer! > >> > > >> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett > >> > wrote: > >> >> But stripslashes() is independent of that? > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk > >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000 > >> >> > >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >> (Julian > >> >> Tenney) > >> >> > >> >> magic quotes are off on the sandpit. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> >> Burnett > >> >> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04 > >> >> To: Xerte list > >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >> (Julian > >> >> Tenney) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> removing backslashes - stripslashes() > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's > >> >> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?" > >> > section above. > >> >> > >> >> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are > >> >> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in > >> >> the > >> > future. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> magic quotes turned on? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000 > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian > >> >>> Tenney) > >> >>> > >> >>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is > >> >>> hosted with you? > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Sent: 09 February 2012 12:01 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 68 > >> >>> > >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Today's Topics: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 1 > >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000 > >> >>> From: Julian Tenney > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> Message-ID: > >> >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187B1F0 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a > >> >>> c.uk> > >> >>> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they > >> >>> all come back intact. > >> >>> > >> >>> Is this a server thing? > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >> >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> > >> >>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into > >> >>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders > >> >>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into > >> >>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I > >> >>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, > >> >>> each > >> > time it removes a \ until none is left. > >> >>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the > >> >>> LO. > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Sent: 08 February 2012 09:48 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 34 > >> >>> > >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Today's Topics: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Julian > >> >>> Tenney) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 1 > >> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000 > >> >>> From: Julian Tenney > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> Message-ID: > >> >>> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA187AB6B at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.a > >> >>> c.uk> > >> >>> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> > >> >>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in. > >> >>> > >> >>> So you start off with \\t > >> >>> > >> >>> Save the file, close the editor > >> >>> > >> >>> Open it > >> >>> > >> >>> And see \t > >> >>> > >> >>> ? > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi > >> >>> > >> >>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\ > >> >>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes > >> >>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and > >> >>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops > >> >>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please > >> >>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae. > >> >>> > >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:34 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 > >> >>> > >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Today's Topics: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ott A > >> >>> (AT)) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 1 > >> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000 > >> >>> From: "Ott A (AT)" > >> >>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> Message-ID: > >> >>> <77AD695E8DFBD04F9D7FABE65371EAF81E7C50 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi > >> >>> > >> >>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should > >> >>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process, > >> >>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and > >> >>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex > >> >>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine > >> >>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can > >> >>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some > >> >>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So > >> >>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae. > >> >>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at > >> >>> some > >> > other stage? > >> >>> > >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 10:04 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 63, Issue 15 > >> >>> > >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >>> than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Today's Topics: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 1 > >> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000 > >> >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> Message-ID: <003f01cce57f$e19e3170$a4da9450$@co.uk> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> > >> >>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within > >> >>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single > >> >>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to > >> >>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for > >> >>> single \ to work. :-( > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> >>> Tenney > >> >>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41 > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a > >> >>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I > >> >>> haven't used the latex stuff much. > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> >>> Mitchell > >> >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11 > >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi > >> >>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the > >> >>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g. > >> >>> ? > >> >>> > >> >>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is > >> >>> why the latex is only partially working. > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what > >> >>> file(s) > >> >>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace > >> >>> them on the server? > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers > >> >>> Ron > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > >> >>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron > >> >>> Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi > >> >>> > >> >>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the > >> >>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly > >> >>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the > >> >>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in > >> > Blackboard. > >> >>> > >> >>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I > >> >>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The > >> >>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times' > >> >>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the > >> >>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard. > >> >>> > >> >>> Is there a way to work around this? > >> >>> > >> >>> Many thanks, Alex. > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 15:10 > >> >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 60, Issue 56 > >> >>> > >> >>> Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >>> xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >>> xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > >> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >>> than > >> >>> "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Today's Topics: > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley) > >> >>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 1 > >> >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000 > >> >>> From: Pat Lockley > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not? > >> >>> Message-ID: > >> >>> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >> >>> > >> >>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields. > >> >>> > >> >>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open > >> >>> content > >> >>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too, > >> >>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some > >> >>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import > >> >>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL > >> >>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the > >> >>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into > >> >>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get > >> >>> > a quiz > >> >>> score. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> >>> > Haslam > >> >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32 > >> >>> > To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still > >> >>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m > >> >>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is > >> >>> > no longer relevant to my question.) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the > >> >>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to > >> >>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into > >> >>> > Blackboard to achieve > >> >>> this? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with > >> >>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have > >> >>> > within Blackboard? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Thanks > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Oli > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > _______________________________ > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Oliver Haslam > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Course Developer (Technologist) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Technology Enhanced Learning > >> >>> > > >> >>> > University of the West of England > >> >>> > > >> >>> > _______________________________ > >> >>> > > >> >>> > T: 0117 32 88215 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave > >> >>> > Burnett > >> >>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54 > >> >>> > To: Xerte list > >> >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> > own XOT installation > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > That is correct. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk > >> >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000 > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can > >> >>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to > >> >>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results > >> >>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Thanks > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oli > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> >>> >> University of the West of England > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> >>> >> Tenney > >> >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36 > >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would > >> >>> >> be even better... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Why? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> >>> >> Haslam > >> >>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32 > >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Hi > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can > >> >>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. > >> >>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't > >> >>> >> work as > >> >>> 'scorm export'. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile > >> >>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently > >> >>> >> imported." > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would > >> >>> >> be even better... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Best > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oli > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> >>> >> University of the West of England > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> >>> >> Mitchell > >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 > >> >>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject > >> >>> >> line ;-) > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental > >> >>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before > >> >>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something > >> >>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the > >> >>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and > >> >>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions > >> >>> >> but > >> > my list would be... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the > >> >>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various > >> >>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying > >> >>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and > >> >>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit > >> >>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further > >> >>> >> questions if everything but that works > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> HTH > >> >>> >> Ron > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > >> >>> >> Tenney > >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58 > >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The > >> >>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the > >> >>> server? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > >> >>> >> Haslam > >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56 > >> >>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own > >> >>> >> XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Hi > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to > >> >>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these > >> >>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more > >> >>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all > >> >>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have > >> >>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is > >> >>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our > >> >>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to > >> >>> >> play it I get this > >> >>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't > >> >>> >> play. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on > >> >>> >> any advice received to those that do. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Many thanks > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oli > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> >>> >> University of the West of England > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>> >> --- > >> >>> >> - > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Message: 1 > >> >>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000 > >> >>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> >>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to > >> >>> >> our own XOT installation > >> >>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk> > >> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent > >> >>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would > >> >>> >> comment/add as > >> >>> >> follows: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't > >> >>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata > >> >>> >> export. > >> >>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in > >> >>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit > >> >>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO > >> >>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to > >> >>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work > >> >>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve > >> >>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any > >> >>> >> issues > >> > with the sandpit. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported > >> >>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> HTH > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Ron > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > >> >>> >> Alistair McNaught > >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11 > >> >>> >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our > >> >>> >> own XOT installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Hi all > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in > >> >>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here > >> >>> >> to pick up the answers. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> A > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online > >> >>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >> >>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05 > >> >>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >> >>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT > >> >>> >> installation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Hi > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to > >> >>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of > >> >>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very > >> >>> >> gratefully > >> > received! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" > >> >>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own > >> >>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I > >> >>> >> get an error message saying > >> >>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see > >> >>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or > >> >>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the > >> >>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page: > >> >>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try > >> >>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload > >> >>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are > >> >>> >> currently imported." And can go no further. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? > >> >>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Any suggestions? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oli > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Oliver Haslam > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Course Developer (Technologist) > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> University of the West of England > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> T: 0117 32 88215 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> >> Xerte mailing list > >> >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> >> Xerte mailing list > >> >>> >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > >> >>> >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications > >> >>> > with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by > >> >>> > UK > >> >>> legislation. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ------------------------------ > >> >>> > >> >>> Message: 2 > >> >>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:09:56 -0000 > >> >>> From: "Ron Mitchell" > >> >>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Alistair > >> >>> > >> >>> you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both > >> >>> display latex and also work offline when exported. > >> >>> > >> >>> Let me know if you encounter any further problems. > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers > >> >>> > >> >>> Ron > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair > >> >>> McNaught > >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12 > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on > >> >>> loading > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> >>> Mitchell > >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06 > >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Alistair > >> >>> > >> >>> ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions. > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers > >> >>> > >> >>> Ron > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair > >> >>> McNaught > >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55 > >> >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Ron > >> >>> > >> >>> Many thanks for speedy response. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT > >> >>> > >> >>> 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any > >> >>> latex but leaves blank spaces. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something > >> >>> different? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> A > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >> >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > >> >>> Mitchell > >> >>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47 > >> >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' > >> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Alistair > >> >>> > >> >>> I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try > >> >>> again I think you'll find it works now? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer > >> >>> the > >> >>> following: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally? > >> >>> > >> >>> 2. 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(JulianTenney) there is a stripslashes in the save function in the php else the saved file has \" for every " without it when XOT opens it, it dies On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: > > > But I think stripslashes() is independent of magic quotes. > e.g. they just suggest checking the status of magic quotes so you don't > screw it up. > > So regardless of magic quote settings, has a stripslashes() crept in > somewhere? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Feb 9 17:03:23 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:03:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: Hooray! This is not shadenfreude, I am delighted you are getting the same result as I. Have you tried clicking on the maps to open up a browser window? The correct map should display in the browser window yet the wrong map displays in Xerte. I have no idea what is causing this but I know it's not limited to my own setup. It's also happening with the current map.rlm file, in what is as far as I can tell a standard Xerte pageTemplates project. So Gremlins aside, has anyone any idea what is going on here? Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 14:38, Alistair McNaught < Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > Thanks for this. > > Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up ? see > screenshots. > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 12:31 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Alistair, > > > > It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where > you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. > > > > On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte > project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then > select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes > your project folder as one of its child folders. > > > > You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. > > > > Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / > systems and security / flash player. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught < > Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk> wrote: > > Hi Johnathan > > I?m getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I?m not sure where I > change the flash player settings ? do I need admin rights to do that? > > > > A > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 09 February 2012 11:43 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages > with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford < > thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com> wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I?m unable to replicate your issue, I?m afraid. I?ve been ?playing? with > the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can > view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 16:22 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Fri Feb 10 00:19:58 2012 From: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com (Thomas Rochford) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:19:58 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: <012001cce789$b947fba0$2bd7f2e0$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Hi Jonathan and Alistair, I'm not sure about this. I have no folder in my trusted locations settings, I am using IE9 under Windows 7 with Flash 11.1 (Active X) and Version 10.1 for the plugin. I'm not having any problems as you can see in the attached screenshot which shows all this information - so apologies for the size! In order to narrow down the possible causes, it would probably be best if you could confirm you have the same problem with my LO. If you do, then it's something to do with the setup on your workstations, if you don't, then it must be the version of XoT (or the web-server?) that you are using - I think that's probably right, but at least it should narrow down the list of suspects. My LO (as a reminder) can be viewed at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/preview.php?template_id=2 Please let me know how you get on. I'm actually quite pleased that it's now working, because it wasn't working properly at all before. Kindest regards, Thomas. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 February 2012 14:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Thanks for this. Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up - see screenshots. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 12:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan I'm getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I'm not sure where I change the flash player settings - do I need admin rights to do that? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King dom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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Name: Clipboard01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 131625 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 10 08:19:30 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:19:30 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: <012001cce789$b947fba0$2bd7f2e0$@cambridge-serendipity.com> References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <012001cce789$b947fba0$2bd7f2e0$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: <002d01cce7cc$b8796590$296c30b0$@co.uk> Hi Thomas (and anyone else reading this thread in future) The Flash Player trusted locations setting only applies to LO's viewed locally from a HDD or USB etc It's to protect access to the file system etc when viewing swf files locally so when viewing xerte files locally which load dynamic content or even changing things like screen size the path to your LO needs to be added to trusted locations. The best solution is to create a folder from where you will view all local LO's and set that as trusted. Again when viewing online this doesn't apply. Also the link you've provided below is the private preview link - for others to view it's http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 That works fine for me and the maps displayed in the LO and when clicking the image are more or less the same but obviously the maps on google show all the extra elements. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 10 February 2012 00:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi Jonathan and Alistair, I'm not sure about this. I have no folder in my trusted locations settings, I am using IE9 under Windows 7 with Flash 11.1 (Active X) and Version 10.1 for the plugin. I'm not having any problems as you can see in the attached screenshot which shows all this information - so apologies for the size! In order to narrow down the possible causes, it would probably be best if you could confirm you have the same problem with my LO. If you do, then it's something to do with the setup on your workstations, if you don't, then it must be the version of XoT (or the web-server?) that you are using - I think that's probably right, but at least it should narrow down the list of suspects. My LO (as a reminder) can be viewed at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/preview.php?template_id=2 Please let me know how you get on. I'm actually quite pleased that it's now working, because it wasn't working properly at all before. Kindest regards, Thomas. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 February 2012 14:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Thanks for this. Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up - see screenshots. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 12:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught wrote: Hi Johnathan I'm getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I'm not sure where I change the flash player settings - do I need admin rights to do that? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King dom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 10 08:53:57 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:53:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: <002d01cce7cc$b8796590$296c30b0$@co.uk> References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <012001cce789$b947fba0$2bd7f2e0$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <002d01cce7cc$b8796590$296c30b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28BFBD8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Whilst we're on the subject of google maps, I'm working on a new mapping page using the Mapstraction API: I'm involved in a JISC funded project here with the geo-spatial science folks who want to bring some more advanced mapping functionality to Xerte. Mapstraction allows you to choose from a list of mapping providers for the actual base map (google, yahoo, Microsoft, open layers) and to then add layers of data on top of the map. The idea is that we want to allow people in a wide range of disciplines to create maps using geo-data: but the difficulty is in sourcing the data in the first place, and then getting it into a format (.kml) that the maps can handle, and I don't know whether that will ever be anything other than a specialist endeavour... you can use my maps at google to create KML though, so the less technical should be able to create richer maps... I might have some examples later. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 February 2012 08:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi Thomas (and anyone else reading this thread in future) The Flash Player trusted locations setting only applies to LO's viewed locally from a HDD or USB etc It's to protect access to the file system etc when viewing swf files locally so when viewing xerte files locally which load dynamic content or even changing things like screen size the path to your LO needs to be added to trusted locations. The best solution is to create a folder from where you will view all local LO's and set that as trusted. Again when viewing online this doesn't apply. Also the link you've provided below is the private preview link - for others to view it's http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 That works fine for me and the maps displayed in the LO and when clicking the image are more or less the same but obviously the maps on google show all the extra elements. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 10 February 2012 00:20 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi Jonathan and Alistair, I'm not sure about this. I have no folder in my trusted locations settings, I am using IE9 under Windows 7 with Flash 11.1 (Active X) and Version 10.1 for the plugin. I'm not having any problems as you can see in the attached screenshot which shows all this information - so apologies for the size! In order to narrow down the possible causes, it would probably be best if you could confirm you have the same problem with my LO. If you do, then it's something to do with the setup on your workstations, if you don't, then it must be the version of XoT (or the web-server?) that you are using - I think that's probably right, but at least it should narrow down the list of suspects. My LO (as a reminder) can be viewed at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/preview.php?template_id=2 Please let me know how you get on. I'm actually quite pleased that it's now working, because it wasn't working properly at all before. Kindest regards, Thomas. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 February 2012 14:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Thanks for this. Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up - see screenshots. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 12:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan I'm getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I'm not sure where I change the flash player settings - do I need admin rights to do that? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 10 09:10:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:10:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28BFBFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> This is google changing things again: Here's the link I get from a map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209941147259352012582.000488bc7771c49c08686&msa=0 Here's the code that splits it into lat, lng, and zoom: ll = pageIcon.templateData.map[0].mapurl.split('ll=')[1].split('&')[0]; z = pageIcon.templateData.map[0].mapurl.split('z=')[1].split('&')[0]; So, you tell me how I'm supposed to get lat and lng out of the url? This is what they used to look like: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.937841,-1.196051&spn=0.009815,0.019312&t=h&z=16 Cosmic. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 17:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hooray! This is not shadenfreude, I am delighted you are getting the same result as I. Have you tried clicking on the maps to open up a browser window? The correct map should display in the browser window yet the wrong map displays in Xerte. I have no idea what is causing this but I know it's not limited to my own setup. It's also happening with the current map.rlm file, in what is as far as I can tell a standard Xerte pageTemplates project. So Gremlins aside, has anyone any idea what is going on here? Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 14:38, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Thanks for this. Changes made so I can see the maps now but they look mixed up - see screenshots. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 12:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Alistair, It depends on the version of Flash Player you have installed as to where you change the settings. You don't need admin permissions. On the latest version of flash player, just right click on the Xerte project screen and select Global Settings, then the advanced tab, then select the trusted location setting. Add a folder ensuring that includes your project folder as one of its child folders. You will need to close and re-open your browser after making the changes. Alternatively you may be able to get at the settings via control panel / systems and security / flash player. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 February 2012 12:15, Alistair McNaught > wrote: Hi Johnathan I'm getting blanks too on 3 different browsers but I'm not sure where I change the flash player settings - do I need admin rights to do that? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2&hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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Clearly there's some difference in the versions we're using and what's on the install Thomas is using because his works fine. Thomas can you export and send us a copy of your LO? HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hello Everyone, Thomas thank you for trying this out. Things are getting very strange. I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a window opens to display the map of stoke) The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window opens to display a map of london) I have attached the zip of the project. I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford wrote: Hi Jonathan, I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 Kindest regards, Thomas From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get exactly the same results as my individual template page. Create a xerte project Add 3 google map pages page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london Now save and close Xerte Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it I get page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford the links as pasted in are Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King dom&t=m&z=13 Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 Can anyone replicate this? 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I think I will have settle with the solution you suggested. Thanks Denis *From:*Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl] *Sent:* 08 February 2012 10:30 *To:* Duret, Denis *Subject:* Re: MCQ with hints Sorry the colours may be completely off... But this is basically what you are trying to achieve, correct? Than, yes, you re right, check Judge Questions, and fill in the feedback for each option. Regards, Tom Op 8-2-2012 10:44, Duret, Denis schreef: Tom, Thanks for your help. We must be working on different version as I can?t see the option to switch on show feedback. I can select to Judge Questions but it doesn?t work as a feedback. Denis *From:*Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl] *Sent:* 07 February 2012 18:15 *To:* Duret, Denis *Subject:* Re: MCQ with hints If you switch on show feedback, than the feedback you type for each option is the hint, i.e. it is shown after the user has selected an option and pressed the submit button. The user can still change their answer before continueing to the next question of the quiz. Regards, Tom Op 7-2-2012 17:39, Duret, Denis schreef: Tom, Thanks for your reply regarding my problem (MCQ with hints) I forgot to say that I am using the online toolkit. Is it still possible to do it? I am afraid I can?t find a way to add hints. Could you send me some details? Thanks Denis -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 14057 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kindest Regards, Thomas ================== Sent from my Google Chromebook On 10 February 2012 at 09:18 Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Jonathan > > I can confirm that I get exactly the same results as you. e.g. the links go > to the correct maps but the images displayed in the LO are incorrect. I > wondered if having duplicates after each other would show the correct image > on the second page but stoke always seems to show Nottingham and London West > Bridgeford etc. > > I've tried importing this into 3 different XOT installations and all result > the same. Clearly there's some difference in the versions we're using and > what's on the install Thomas is using because his works fine. > > > > Thomas can you export and send us a copy of your LO? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with > the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the > new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 > 17,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13> > &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King > dom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Name: NewTest.zip Type: application/zip Size: 1530603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 10 13:13:50 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:13:50 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: <1112071640.123899.1328873337639.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.co.uk> References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <005f01cce7d4$ff3b6f70$fdb24e50$@co.uk> <1112071640.123899.1328873337639.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.co.uk> Message-ID: <003501cce7f5$d7136cc0$853a4640$@co.uk> Hi Thomas Thanks for your copy but as Julian has said the problem Jonathan has reported is due to changes in the links generated by Google. If you put one of Jonathan's links in your LO you'll get the same problem e.g. This is a Stoke on Trent map http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Put that in and select roadmap as the type and you'll see a Nottingham map in the Xerte Lo and the correct map when you visit on Google. Sounds like the Mapstraction might become a more reliable solution if there's an easy way to get to the correct values to add to the LO. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Sent: 10 February 2012 11:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi everyone, Here is my LO, zipped up. I used the latest build from the SVN, downloaded on Wednesday am, I think, after Ron recommended this . Enjoy! Kindest Regards, Thomas ================== Sent from my Google Chromebook On 10 February 2012 at 09:18 Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi Jonathan > > I can confirm that I get exactly the same results as you. e.g. the links go > to the correct maps but the images displayed in the LO are incorrect. I > wondered if having duplicates after each other would show the correct image > on the second page but stoke always seems to show Nottingham and London West > Bridgeford etc. > > I've tried importing this into 3 different XOT installations and all result > the same. Clearly there's some difference in the versions we're using and > what's on the install Thomas is using because his works fine. > > > > Thomas can you export and send us a copy of your LO? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with > the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the > new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129 > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 > &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.1538 > 17,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13> > &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King > dom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129 > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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The next release of Xerte will also feature individual page templates which will make it easier for you to take a page such as the mcq page and to modify it i.e. to add the sort of features you are describing. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 February 2012 09:52, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > > -------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: RE: MCQ with hints Datum: > Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:49:17 +0000 Van: Duret, Denis > Aan: 'Tom Reijnders' > > > Tom, > > Thanks for your help. > > I would have prefer a button called Hints for each option but I am not > sure it is possible. > > The other thing I was considering was to hover with the mouse and have the > hints for each option but again, I don?t think it is possible. > > I think I will have settle with the solution you suggested. > > Thanks > > Denis > > > > *From:* Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl ] > *Sent:* 08 February 2012 10:30 > *To:* Duret, Denis > *Subject:* Re: MCQ with hints > > > > > > Sorry the colours may be completely off... > > But this is basically what you are trying to achieve, correct? > Than, yes, you re right, check Judge Questions, and fill in the feedback > for each option. > Regards, > > Tom > > > Op 8-2-2012 10:44, Duret, Denis schreef: > > Tom, > > Thanks for your help. > > We must be working on different version as I can?t see the option to > switch on show feedback. > > I can select to Judge Questions but it doesn?t work as a feedback. > > > > Denis > > > > *From:* Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl ] > *Sent:* 07 February 2012 18:15 > *To:* Duret, Denis > *Subject:* Re: MCQ with hints > > > > If you switch on show feedback, than the feedback you type for each option > is the hint, i.e. it is shown after the user has selected an option and > pressed the submit button. > > The user can still change their answer before continueing to the next > question of the quiz. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 7-2-2012 17:39, Duret, Denis schreef: > > Tom, > > Thanks for your reply regarding my problem (MCQ with hints) > > I forgot to say that I am using the online toolkit. > > Is it still possible to do it? > > I am afraid I can?t find a way to add hints. Could you send me some > details? > > Thanks > > > > Denis > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 88097 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 13 10:27:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:27:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page In-Reply-To: <003501cce7f5$d7136cc0$853a4640$@co.uk> References: <00ed01cce694$26f042d0$74d0c870$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <005f01cce7d4$ff3b6f70$fdb24e50$@co.uk> <1112071640.123899.1328873337639.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.co.uk> <003501cce7f5$d7136cc0$853a4640$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28C0223@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think Mapstraction will replace the google map page, it looks pretty good. Finding lat and lng is not that straightforward though: I might make some sort of visual tool ? a mini map ? that users can use to set the initial lat lng and zoom, but not sure how I can easily do that. Any ideas? The wizard can take a ?component? type of data, where a loaded flash movie can be used to populate the xml, but the trouble is that all the mapping APIs are defunct for AS2. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 February 2012 13:14 To: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi Thomas Thanks for your copy but as Julian has said the problem Jonathan has reported is due to changes in the links generated by Google. If you put one of Jonathan's links in your LO you'll get the same problem e.g. This is a Stoke on Trent map http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12 Put that in and select roadmap as the type and you'll see a Nottingham map in the Xerte Lo and the correct map when you visit on Google. Sounds like the Mapstraction might become a more reliable solution if there's an easy way to get to the correct values to add to the LO. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Sent: 10 February 2012 11:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page Hi everyone, Here is my LO, zipped up. I used the latest build from the SVN, downloaded on Wednesday am, I think, after Ron recommended this . Enjoy! Kindest Regards, Thomas ================== Sent from my Google Chromebook On 10 February 2012 at 09:18 Ron Mitchell > wrote: > Hi Jonathan > > I can confirm that I get exactly the same results as you. e.g. the links go > to the correct maps but the images displayed in the LO are incorrect. I > wondered if having duplicates after each other would show the correct image > on the second page but stoke always seems to show Nottingham and London West > Bridgeford etc. > > I've tried importing this into 3 different XOT installations and all result > the same. Clearly there's some difference in the versions we're using and > what's on the install Thomas is using because his works fine. > > > > Thomas can you export and send us a copy of your LO? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 09 February 2012 11:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Google Map page > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Thomas thank you for trying this out. > > > > Things are getting very strange. > > > > I have created a brand new pageTemplates project. Added three map pages with > the url's that I used before and which I included in my first email. > > > > I have compared the map.rlm file in the projects model folder with the > map.rlm file in the xerte svn and it is identical. > > > > I published the project, zipped it up and opened it on a different PC that > does not have Xerte installed. At first no maps displayed until I set the > Flash Player Global settings / Advanced / Trusted Location Settings ... to > include the parent folder in which the project folder was placed. > > > > Then on reopening my browser and then the index.htm the maps started > displaying and I got the same results in both Opera and Firefox. > > > > The stoke page displayed a map of nottingham (but if I click on the map a > window opens to display the map of stoke) > > > > The nottingham page displayed a map of southern Stoke on Trent (but if I > click on it a window opens to display the map of nottingham). > > > > The london page displays a map of nottingham but zoomed in more than the > first map so it is mostly west bridgford (but if I click on it a window > opens to display a map of london) > > > > I have attached the zip of the project. > > > > I would be very interested to see if others get the same results with this > project. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 8 February 2012 19:02, Thomas Rochford > > wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > I'm unable to replicate your issue, I'm afraid. I've been 'playing' with the > new features and have embedded three maps and a table which you can view at: > > > > http://vcam-serendipity.dyndns.org/toolkits/play.php?template_id=2 > > > > Kindest regards, Thomas > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 08 February 2012 16:22 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Google Map page > > > > Are there any issues with the Google map page at the moment? Could the > page's performance have been affected by changes to the main xmlEngine.swf > or wizard.swf which I noticed had been updated when I refreshed my svn copy > today? I have installed both of these new files into my xerte installation > > > > I have created a page templates project with a google map page and get > exactly the same results as my individual template page. > > > > Create a xerte project > > Add 3 google map pages > > page 1 paste in the link for st3 and change the tooltip to Stoke on Trent > > page 2 paste in the link for ng2 and change the tooltip to Nottingham > > page 3 paste in the link for nw1 and change the tooltip to london > > > > Now save and close Xerte > > Now open Xerte and open your project and preview it > > I get > > page 1 tooltip stoke on trent but map is nottingham > > page 2 tooltip is nottingham but map is stoke on trent > > page 3 tooltip is london but map is West bridgford > > > > the links as pasted in are > > > > Page 1 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ST3,+United+Kingdom > > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=12> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=st3&hnear=ST3,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=12 > > Page 2 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ng2 > > 17,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=13> > &hl=en&sll=52.973544,-2.107262&sspn=0.153817,0.257149&hnear=NG2,+United+King > dom&t=m&z=13 > > Page 3 = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=NW1,+United+Kingdom > > 449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14> > &hl=en&sll=52.92778,-1.129449&sspn=0.07699,0.128574&oq=nw1&hnear=NW1,+United > +Kingdom&t=m&z=14 > > > > Can anyone replicate this? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 13 10:46:27 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:46:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT In-Reply-To: <00cb01cce67d$2a7b0eb0$7f712c10$@cambridge-serendipity.com> References: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> <00cb01cce67d$2a7b0eb0$7f712c10$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28C0255@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm not sure what this means. Is it a toolkits problem? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 08 February 2012 16:18 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT Hi Dave, In case you haven't cracked this already, here is one possible cause. I have a similar problem with an LO which I have difficulty in importing and normally have to do this manually. However I've been able to devote some time to this today and have found a likely cause and that is that the zip file has broken links in it. I used 7-Zip to unzip it and got 34 errors as shown in the attached image. Interestingly that meant that trying to open the 'template.xml' in IE just produced a blank window whereas normally this would display the XML code. I then tried opening it in firefox (which is a very good XML checker/debugger) and got the following error message: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: file:///C:/Users/Thomas/Desktop/Accessibility-2/template.xml Line Number 21, Column 115: <li>Use graphics to enhance the text</li>" align="left" mapurl="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cb3+9ln& sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.637293,60.556641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cambridges hire+CB3+0,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.199493,0.095245&spn=0.001151,0.00228&t= hire+CB3+h&z= 18&iwloc=A" maptype="satellite" tooltip="Click on the map to go interactive" link="true" /> To save you counting, Column 115 is the '=' sign in '' source=s_q" There may be other problems and that just happens to be the first one spotted. I don't know enough about XML to spot an error of this nature and have attached the file in case there's someone out there who can spot why this generates a parsing error, we might then be able to find out how it had crept in. I haven't got a solution just yet other than to rebuild the Learning object from scratch and then to re-export it. Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 February 2012 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT If you open the zip file, what files can you see? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a > xerte limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you > shouldn't be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just > meant as a play area to try XOT and then establish your own > installation where the full benefits can be realised. > > If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be > a php limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the > phpinfo and then change php.ini if necessary. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Pedley > Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT > > > > Hi, > > I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO's created and > exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install > on a laptop. > > Both are giving me "Upload check you can only import zip files" error. > > I can create, export and upload small LO's into my local install, > (5meg) but not import anything created in the sandpit, even after > unblocking them in properties. > > I can create, export and import LO's into the sandpit (49meg) and > import test LO's created in my local install into the sandpit. > > The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior > to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. > This will not import into the sandpit. > > Is there a size limit? > > Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? > > I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish > via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give > feedback > > Thanks > > Dave Pedley > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 13 11:23:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:23:07 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28C0255@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <50DC8A57176A6747843B1A2BC7B02DC01398CD@swift.northern.ac.uk> <00d101cce599$f090a4f0$d1b1eed0$@co.uk> <00cb01cce67d$2a7b0eb0$7f712c10$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA28C0255@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006d01ccea41$de86ece0$9b94c6a0$@co.uk> I suspect the problem Dave Pedley reported is simply down to zip file size rather than mail formed xml. the sandpit won't work with 118MB zips. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 13 February 2012 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT I'm not sure what this means. Is it a toolkits problem? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford Sent: 08 February 2012 16:18 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT Hi Dave, In case you haven't cracked this already, here is one possible cause. I have a similar problem with an LO which I have difficulty in importing and normally have to do this manually. However I've been able to devote some time to this today and have found a likely cause and that is that the zip file has broken links in it. I used 7-Zip to unzip it and got 34 errors as shown in the attached image. Interestingly that meant that trying to open the 'template.xml' in IE just produced a blank window whereas normally this would display the XML code. I then tried opening it in firefox (which is a very good XML checker/debugger) and got the following error message: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: file:///C:/Users/Thomas/Desktop/Accessibility-2/template.xml Line Number 21, Column 115: <li>Use graphics to enhance the text</li>" align="left" mapurl="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cb3+9ln& sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.637293,60.556641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cambridges hire+CB3+0,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.199493,0.095245&spn=0.001151,0.00228&t= hire+CB3+h&z= 18&iwloc=A" maptype="satellite" tooltip="Click on the map to go interactive" link="true" /> To save you counting, Column 115 is the '=' sign in '' source=s_q" There may be other problems and that just happens to be the first one spotted. I don't know enough about XML to spot an error of this nature and have attached the file in case there's someone out there who can spot why this generates a parsing error, we might then be able to find out how it had crept in. I haven't got a solution just yet other than to rebuild the Learning object from scratch and then to re-export it. Kindest regards, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 07 February 2012 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: uploading zip error in XOT If you open the zip file, what files can you see? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Yes there is a limit on the sandpit around 50MB I think. This isn't a > xerte limit as such in as far as on your own organisational server you > shouldn't be restricted in this way but the Techdis sandpit is just > meant as a play area to try XOT and then establish your own > installation where the full benefits can be realised. > > If by your "local install" you mean a XAMPP or MAXOS install it may be > a php limit preventing the import of larger files. Have a look at the > phpinfo and then change php.ini if necessary. > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Pedley > Sent: 07 February 2012 12:50 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] uploading zip error in XOT > > > > Hi, > > I am a novice user of XOT and am struggling to upload LO's created and > exported in your sandpit 1 back into the sandpit and 2 into an install > on a laptop. > > Both are giving me "Upload check you can only import zip files" error. > > I can create, export and upload small LO's into my local install, > (5meg) but not import anything created in the sandpit, even after > unblocking them in properties. > > I can create, export and import LO's into the sandpit (49meg) and > import test LO's created in my local install into the sandpit. > > The Lo I want to import was created in the sandpit and exported prior > to the wiping on the last Sunday and is 118 meg and will get larger. > This will not import into the sandpit. > > Is there a size limit? > > Has this problem happened before or is my 118meg LO a corrupt file? > > I hope you can help as I want to create on my local intall and publish > via your sandpit so that a number of colleagues countrywide can give > feedback > > Thanks > > Dave Pedley > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk Thu Feb 16 09:43:36 2012 From: C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk (Loughlin, Colin) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:43:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM in IE - In-Reply-To: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> References: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B0160755528BF@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3739E9122693F648B22BEA5037F4901B01607577864B@KUMBX.kuds.kingston.ac.uk> Hi - Just to update this earlier posting about XOT SCORM in Blackboard 9 in IE7+8 (and chrome) - no cure but a workaround: 1. It works okay as is, in IE9 2. It plays okay in a standalone scorm player in any version IE and chrome. 3. If I amend the settings in blackboard so that it opens in the 'same frame' rather than opening in a new window (which is the default option) it again works okay - not ideal, as you lose the navigation menu, but it will have to do. As I say, this is just to update you should anyone else have the same problem. Regards, Colin From: Loughlin, Colin [mailto:C.Loughlin at kingston.ac.uk] Sent: 02 February 2012 09:55 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] SCORM in IE Hi Guys - apologies if this has been covered before, I've had a look in the list but can't find anything. I've created a Xerte SCORM (from 1.5 and 1.7 XOT) for blackboard 9.1. It works fine in firefox but fails in IE (7 & 8), the window opens but contents never complete loading. Other scorms that I've downloaded from the openlearn website work okay in IE, is this something you've come across before? 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Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn't it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image... - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn't really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player's Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. 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New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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Nerd speak says it is a zip file of several folders which contain files some of which are in the XML format (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > No attachment. > May not be allowed on this listserv. > Send it to me directly. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > From: panke at sog.unc.edu > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ > select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub > > > Hello! > > Yet again, I have ?a few? XERTE questions ? an opportunity to thank > everyone for the support on this mailing list! > > 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an > open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently > working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of > page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create > functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and > became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? > > 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really > been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It > displays the button on every page, but does not have the print > functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does > anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I > integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to > include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I > could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than > leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. > > 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image > icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a > button (see above)? > > 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same > font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font > tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to > change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte > wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it > does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? > > 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some > reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I > have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: > http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, > for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change > a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that > would be really annoying for users / readers. > > 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the > table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? > > 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the > suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. > Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other > formats? > > Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy > to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to > provide training here at the School anyway. > > Thanks, > Stefanie > > > > > > [image: Description: Description: Description: Description: > cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] > > > > *Stefanie Panke, PhD* > > *Instructional Analyst* > > School of Government > > The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 > > Tel: 919.962.0592 > > Fax: 919.962.2707 > > www.sog.unc.edu > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Thu Feb 16 22:07:21 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:07:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub In-Reply-To: References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6985C@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> , Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A127@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hello, @Dave: Seems like I forgot to attach the rlo. Sorry about that! This should illustrate my feeble -and failing- attempt. @Pat: Your point is exactly what I was wondering about - "hey maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator" - one can dream... I just have to potentially deal with iPad compatibility and thought that providing an alternative ePub version could be a nice way around that. Thanks for the input! Stefanie ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub ePub isn't directly an XML format. Nerd speak says it is a zip file of several folders which contain files some of which are in the XML format (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: No attachment. May not be allowed on this listserv. Send it to me directly. Dave ________________________________ From: panke at sog.unc.edu To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have ?a few? XERTE questions ? an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: my_style.css Type: text/css Size: 133 bytes Desc: my_style.css URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Feb 16 22:30:15 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:30:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A127@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6985C@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A127@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: Hello, For IPad you might want to dream of the HTML 5 version. The ePub maker could be a big deal though. If unc has developers There is a xerte developers list and it might start something. I bumped into some one from harper Adams college who had half started a mobile version. Pat On 16 Feb 2012, at 22:07, "Panke, Stefanie" wrote: > Hello, > @Dave: Seems like I forgot to attach the rlo. Sorry about that! This should illustrate my feeble -and failing- attempt. > @Pat: Your point is exactly what I was wondering about - "hey maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator" - one can dream... I just have to potentially deal with iPad compatibility and thought that providing an alternative ePub version could be a nice way around that. > Thanks for the input! > Stefanie > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub > > ePub isn't directly an XML format. > > Nerd speak says > > it is a zip file > of several folders > which contain files > some of which are in the XML format > (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) > > You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > No attachment. > May not be allowed on this listserv. > Send it to me directly. > > Dave > > From: panke at sog.unc.edu > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub > > > Hello! > > Yet again, I have ?a few? XERTE questions ? an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! > > 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? > > 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. > > 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? > > 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? > > 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. > > 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? > > 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? > > Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. > > Thanks, > Stefanie > > > > > > > > > > Stefanie Panke, PhD > > Instructional Analyst > > School of Government > > The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 > > Tel: 919.962.0592 > > Fax: 919.962.2707 > > www.sog.unc.edu > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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You should be able to use a Hot Object interaction for your button graphic, but you forgot to attach the graphic, so I used the standard button and moved it to the status bar. You will need to give your graphic an id property in order to use the Hot Object interaction type. As for the link style, I think you just want to use 'a' in place of 'link.' You could also add text-decoration : underline; to the style if you want it to look like a standard html link. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello, @Dave: Seems like I forgot to attach the rlo. Sorry about that! This should illustrate my feeble -and failing- attempt. @Pat: Your point is exactly what I was wondering about - "hey maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator" - one can dream... I just have to potentially deal with iPad compatibility and thought that providing an alternative ePub version could be a nice way around that. Thanks for the input! Stefanie ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub ePub isn't directly an XML format. Nerd speak says it is a zip file of several folders which contain files some of which are in the XML format (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: No attachment. May not be allowed on this listserv. Send it to me directly. Dave ________________________________ From: panke at sog.unc.edu To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have "a few" XERTE questions - an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access "e-book" on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn't it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image... - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn't really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player's Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: print-css-trial_2.rlo Type: application/octet-stream Size: 200150 bytes Desc: print-css-trial_2.rlo URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 17 00:27:08 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:27:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A15E@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hi Paul, it worked, thanks a lot! Stefanie ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Paul Swanson [Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:24 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hi Stefanie, Please see the attached. I?ve added a button interaction that will print the page. You should be able to use a Hot Object interaction for your button graphic, but you forgot to attach the graphic, so I used the standard button and moved it to the status bar. You will need to give your graphic an id property in order to use the Hot Object interaction type. As for the link style, I think you just want to use ?a? in place of ?link.? You could also add text-decoration : underline; to the style if you want it to look like a standard html link. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello, @Dave: Seems like I forgot to attach the rlo. Sorry about that! This should illustrate my feeble -and failing- attempt. @Pat: Your point is exactly what I was wondering about - "hey maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator" - one can dream... I just have to potentially deal with iPad compatibility and thought that providing an alternative ePub version could be a nice way around that. Thanks for the input! Stefanie ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub ePub isn't directly an XML format. Nerd speak says it is a zip file of several folders which contain files some of which are in the XML format (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: No attachment. May not be allowed on this listserv. Send it to me directly. Dave ________________________________ From: panke at sog.unc.edu To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have ?a few? XERTE questions ? an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 17 09:20:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:20:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E229@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator We are looking to build an HTML5 runtime so LOs can run on iOS. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 16 February 2012 23:25 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hi Stefanie, Please see the attached. I've added a button interaction that will print the page. You should be able to use a Hot Object interaction for your button graphic, but you forgot to attach the graphic, so I used the standard button and moved it to the status bar. You will need to give your graphic an id property in order to use the Hot Object interaction type. As for the link style, I think you just want to use 'a' in place of 'link.' You could also add text-decoration : underline; to the style if you want it to look like a standard html link. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello, @Dave: Seems like I forgot to attach the rlo. Sorry about that! This should illustrate my feeble -and failing- attempt. @Pat: Your point is exactly what I was wondering about - "hey maybe someone out there is developing a Xerte epub creator" - one can dream... I just have to potentially deal with iPad compatibility and thought that providing an alternative ePub version could be a nice way around that. Thanks for the input! Stefanie ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub ePub isn't directly an XML format. Nerd speak says it is a zip file of several folders which contain files some of which are in the XML format (You could argue the XHTML is XML, but ner ner ner ner ner) You could "in theory" make a Xerte ePub creator / editor (then find some way of zipping the content), but it's way beyond my capabilities with it (i know next to nothing about desktop side). On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Dave Burnett > wrote: No attachment. May not be allowed on this listserv. Send it to me directly. Dave ________________________________ From: panke at sog.unc.edu To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:08:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have "a few" XERTE questions - an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access "e-book" on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn't it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image... - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn't really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player's Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 17 09:53:55 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:53:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6985C@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6985C@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E287@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 1. Xerte 3.0 is completely different to Xerte2.x It's a flex compiler, building AS3 swfs / Adobe Air applications directly using the Flex SDK. This is a long source of confusion: when we discussed it here people wanted to keep the name Xerte, but there is confusion as 3.0 sounds like an upgrade from 2.x when in fact is a completely different product. We have just redone the xerte web site in our CMS where we have started to refer to Xerte 3.0 as 'Xerte Flex Compiler' and Xerte 2.x as 'Xerte Developer's Edition'. Xerte Online Toolkits remains 'Xerte Online Toolkits'. Xerte 3.0 is pretty much done: I'm using it to build mobile apps, but I'm not sure anyone else is... Also, Adobe have just 'donated' the Flex SDK to the Apache Foundation, and dropped the mobile flash player, and the implications of both of those are not yet clear. 2. The fact that we build xml is one of the great strengths of the tools. ePub would be a good thing to explore. Our current efforts are likely to go into HTML5 though, but anything can take xml and do stuff with it, as you know. 3. In the long run, I see Xerte Online Toolkits delivering primarily to HTML5. Toolkits is where we have all the traction, and HTML5 is where the future is. There's a lot of work to get to that point, and Xerte Online Toolkits will to some extent de-couple from Xerte 2.x - which will always be about the Flash runtime. It would be cool to see if we could build a Xerte-like editor for a javascript runtime for advanced developers, but that would probably be a different product - that is just a glint in my eye at the minute (althoughthe Xerte 3.0 editor could be mashed up to edit HTML5 and javascript rather than the flex components and AS3). 4. Regarding helping with documentation, brilliant, thank you, thank you, thank you. A couple of the other developers here are looking to set up a community web site and do a better job of community stuff than the wiki did, which I hope will get off the ground sometime shortly. Our strategy with the main xerte web site is to have a low maintenance site that introduces the tools and hosts the main downloads. I'm hoping the community site will be where the software really lives and breathes. J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 16 February 2012 19:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have "a few" XERTE questions - an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access "e-book" on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn't it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image... - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn't really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player's Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie [cid:image001.gif at 01CCED58.A33AB3A0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5361 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 17 20:21:47 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:21:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Future Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hi Julian, Thanks for the clarification! Will the "Xerte Developer Edition" be maintained on the long run? When you're stating that "Xerte Online Toolkits will to some extent de-couple from Xerte 2.x", I am a little worried about sustainability for my content: I understand that Xerte 2.x is dependent on the Flash runtime for the authoring site, but will it be possible to deliver content to HTML5 in the future - or will this development be exclusively for the Xerte Online Toolkits? I am aware that it is hard to predict, but any thoughts on this would make me feel much more at ease... Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:54 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub 1. Xerte 3.0 is completely different to Xerte2.x It's a flex compiler, building AS3 swfs / Adobe Air applications directly using the Flex SDK. This is a long source of confusion: when we discussed it here people wanted to keep the name Xerte, but there is confusion as 3.0 sounds like an upgrade from 2.x when in fact is a completely different product. We have just redone the xerte web site in our CMS where we have started to refer to Xerte 3.0 as 'Xerte Flex Compiler' and Xerte 2.x as 'Xerte Developer's Edition'. Xerte Online Toolkits remains 'Xerte Online Toolkits'. Xerte 3.0 is pretty much done: I'm using it to build mobile apps, but I'm not sure anyone else is... Also, Adobe have just 'donated' the Flex SDK to the Apache Foundation, and dropped the mobile flash player, and the implications of both of those are not yet clear. 2. The fact that we build xml is one of the great strengths of the tools. ePub would be a good thing to explore. Our current efforts are likely to go into HTML5 though, but anything can take xml and do stuff with it, as you know. 3. In the long run, I see Xerte Online Toolkits delivering primarily to HTML5. Toolkits is where we have all the traction, and HTML5 is where the future is. There's a lot of work to get to that point, and Xerte Online Toolkits will to some extent de-couple from Xerte 2.x - which will always be about the Flash runtime. It would be cool to see if we could build a Xerte-like editor for a javascript runtime for advanced developers, but that would probably be a different product - that is just a glint in my eye at the minute (althoughthe Xerte 3.0 editor could be mashed up to edit HTML5 and javascript rather than the flex components and AS3). 4. Regarding helping with documentation, brilliant, thank you, thank you, thank you. A couple of the other developers here are looking to set up a community web site and do a better job of community stuff than the wiki did, which I hope will get off the ground sometime shortly. Our strategy with the main xerte web site is to have a low maintenance site that introduces the tools and hosts the main downloads. I'm hoping the community site will be where the software really lives and breathes. J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 16 February 2012 19:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have "a few" XERTE questions - an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access "e-book" on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn't it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image... - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn't really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player's Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5361 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 17 20:31:52 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:31:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Copy and Paste Message-ID: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A334@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Hello! I am reposting this because I think it got lost in my long list of stuff: I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object or from the Xerte preview. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well, e.g., http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. It does not seem to happen in learning objects produced with the Xerte online toolkits. Is this a general bug or a specific setting? Is there a fix? Best, Stefanie [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5361 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 17 20:38:59 2012 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:38:59 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy and Paste Message-ID: You can set the selectableText property to 1 for the Learning Object icon (the first icon in the project) to make text in text icons selectable. It's off by default. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:32 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Copy and Paste Hello! I am reposting this because I think it got lost in my long list of stuff: I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object or from the Xerte preview. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well, e.g., http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. It does not seem to happen in learning objects produced with the Xerte online toolkits. Is this a general bug or a specific setting? Is there a fix? Best, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5361 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 17 21:14:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:14:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Future In-Reply-To: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The goal is that all existing content developed in toolkits will work in html5 and the flash player. Content developed in xerte will continue to rely on the flash player. There's no silver bullet for .rlos, which are parsed by xmlengine.swf, which is flash, that's just a fact of life, but the flash player will continue to work where it already works ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie [panke at sog.unc.edu] Sent: 17 February 2012 20:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Future Hi Julian, Thanks for the clarification! Will the ?Xerte Developer Edition? be maintained on the long run? When you?re stating that ?Xerte Online Toolkits will to some extent de-couple from Xerte 2.x?, I am a little worried about sustainability for my content: I understand that Xerte 2.x is dependent on the Flash runtime for the authoring site, but will it be possible to deliver content to HTML5 in the future ? or will this development be exclusively for the Xerte Online Toolkits? I am aware that it is hard to predict, but any thoughts on this would make me feel much more at ease? Best, Stefanie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:54 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub 1. Xerte 3.0 is completely different to Xerte2.x It?s a flex compiler, building AS3 swfs / Adobe Air applications directly using the Flex SDK. This is a long source of confusion: when we discussed it here people wanted to keep the name Xerte, but there is confusion as 3.0 sounds like an upgrade from 2.x when in fact is a completely different product. We have just redone the xerte web site in our CMS where we have started to refer to Xerte 3.0 as ?Xerte Flex Compiler? and Xerte 2.x as ?Xerte Developer?s Edition?. Xerte Online Toolkits remains ?Xerte Online Toolkits?. Xerte 3.0 is pretty much done: I?m using it to build mobile apps, but I?m not sure anyone else is? Also, Adobe have just ?donated? the Flex SDK to the Apache Foundation, and dropped the mobile flash player, and the implications of both of those are not yet clear. 2. The fact that we build xml is one of the great strengths of the tools. ePub would be a good thing to explore. Our current efforts are likely to go into HTML5 though, but anything can take xml and do stuff with it, as you know. 3. In the long run, I see Xerte Online Toolkits delivering primarily to HTML5. Toolkits is where we have all the traction, and HTML5 is where the future is. There?s a lot of work to get to that point, and Xerte Online Toolkits will to some extent de-couple from Xerte 2.x - which will always be about the Flash runtime. It would be cool to see if we could build a Xerte-like editor for a javascript runtime for advanced developers, but that would probably be a different product ? that is just a glint in my eye at the minute (althoughthe Xerte 3.0 editor could be mashed up to edit HTML5 and javascript rather than the flex components and AS3). 4. Regarding helping with documentation, brilliant, thank you, thank you, thank you. A couple of the other developers here are looking to set up a community web site and do a better job of community stuff than the wiki did, which I hope will get off the ground sometime shortly. Our strategy with the main xerte web site is to have a low maintenance site that introduces the tools and hosts the main downloads. I?m hoping the community site will be where the software really lives and breathes. J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: 16 February 2012 19:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] release / print / hyperlinked images / hyperlink color/ select and copy/ table of contents / export to ePub Hello! Yet again, I have ?a few? XERTE questions ? an opportunity to thank everyone for the support on this mailing list! 1. New Release date: I am getting started with a bigger project (an open access ?e-book? on local government in North Carolina) and currently working with xerte 2.17. Since Jonathan cautioned me towards the use of page wizards which I am currently relying heavily upon to create functionality, I was wondering when the new release of Xerte is due and became a little confused: Xerte 3.0 is still beta isn?t it? 2. Print: I am sorry to bring this up again, but printing has really been a nightmare for me. Attached is a sample LO with a print button. It displays the button on every page, but does not have the print functionality desired: What am I doing wrong in adding the script? Does anyone have a working example I could use as a model? Also, when I integrate content in navigation pages (slides, accordion) is there a way to include this in the print view? As a makeshift solution, I figured that I could just manually create a PDF for each page and link that. Which than leads to the question of how I can place a hyperlink on an image? - see 3. 3. Hyperlinked images: How can I place a URL on an image within the image icon, e.g., if I want to link from an image back to a Web site or create a button (see above)? 4. Hyperlink color: At the moment, the hyperlinks in my LO have the same font color as the rest of the text. I can add color and style with a font tag, but, obviously, that solution isn?t really great. I was trying to change the color of hyperlinks with the solution suggested in the Xerte wiki (http://wiki.xerte.net/index.php5?title=Stylesheets). However, it does not work. Can anyone see a reason why? 5. Select and copy text from published Xerte learning object: For some reason, I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well: http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. However, in some courses, for example the Sherwood Forest LO, copy and paste works fine. Can I change a setting or do something else to enable copy and paste? I imagine that would be really annoying for users / readers. 6. Table of contents: Can I include pages that are not displayed in the table of contents but are available through back / forth navigation? 7. I read a bit about concerns with Xerte player?s Flash format and the suggestion to see it as an XML editor and create different output formats. Has anyone ever tried to export the Xerte XML content to ePub or other formats? Advice on any of these questions would be greatly appreciated! I am happy to contribute and share documentation for Xerte, since I will have to provide training here at the School anyway. Thanks, Stefanie [cid:image001.gif at 01CCED87.DCD42400] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From panke at sog.unc.edu Fri Feb 17 21:37:17 2012 From: panke at sog.unc.edu (Panke, Stefanie) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:37:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy and Paste In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Paul! I am really excited about working on documentation, I think it would help a great deal to know these little things. I went through the help file but I must have completely overlooked this. Best, Stefanie From: Paul Swanson > Reply-To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:38:59 -0800 To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy and Paste You can set the selectableText property to 1 for the Learning Object icon (the first icon in the project) to make text in text icons selectable. It?s off by default. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:32 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Copy and Paste Hello! I am reposting this because I think it got lost in my long list of stuff: I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object or from the Xerte preview. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well, e.g., http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. It does not seem to happen in learning objects produced with the Xerte online toolkits. Is this a general bug or a specific setting? Is there a fix? Best, Stefanie [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.gif at 01C9FF16.6FA5CCB0] Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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When you first start out with Xerte, if you aren't already a Flash programmer, it all seems cryptic. I use to use Authorware, another eLearning authoring program on which Xerte's interface is modeled, so that gave me a good foundation. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:37 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy and Paste Thanks Paul! I am really excited about working on documentation, I think it would help a great deal to know these little things. I went through the help file but I must have completely overlooked this. Best, Stefanie From: Paul Swanson Reply-To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:38:59 -0800 To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy and Paste You can set the selectableText property to 1 for the Learning Object icon (the first icon in the project) to make text in text icons selectable. It's off by default. Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Panke, Stefanie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:32 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Copy and Paste Hello! I am reposting this because I think it got lost in my long list of stuff: I cannot select and copy text from my published learning object or from the Xerte preview. I have seen this in other Xerte objects as well, e.g., http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/tqef/xerte/index.htm. It does not seem to happen in learning objects produced with the Xerte online toolkits. Is this a general bug or a specific setting? Is there a fix? Best, Stefanie Stefanie Panke, PhD Instructional Analyst School of Government The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Campus Box 3330, Knapp-Sanders Building Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3330 Tel: 919.962.0592 Fax: 919.962.2707 www.sog.unc.edu P Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5361 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 17 22:19:01 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:19:01 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Future In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> "The goal is that all existing content developed in toolkits will work in html5 and the flash player." Just to clarify.... you mean html5 OR the flash player, correct? Thanks RonM2 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 18 15:41:07 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] events in component swf In-Reply-To: <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: I have a swf loaded into a component.That swf contains a function that loads some data via sendAndLoad.Is there any way to trap for that loaded swf onLoad event in Xerte? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 20 10:00:38 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:00:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: events in component swf In-Reply-To: References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E723@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the onLoad event handler in the component, broadcast("yourEventName") and listen for it in Xerte. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2012 15:41 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] events in component swf I have a swf loaded into a component. That swf contains a function that loads some data via sendAndLoad. Is there any way to trap for that loaded swf onLoad event in Xerte? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 20 10:02:32 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:02:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Future In-Reply-To: <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E729@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> And or. Yes. You'll be able to choose, so right now you hit /play_1234 for a learning object, I imagine we'll have something like /html5_1234 for the same learning object but delivering to an html / javascript runtime. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 17 February 2012 22:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Future "The goal is that all existing content developed in toolkits will work in html5 and the flash player." Just to clarify.... you mean html5 OR the flash player, correct? Thanks RonM2 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 20 10:19:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:19:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: events in component swf In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E723@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <1BC8884FD2B8C1488F10FA2ECB3208A6E6A317@ITS-MSXMBS5M.ad.unc.edu>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <002301ccedc2$27571ac0$76055040$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E723@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2D3E761@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, I just checked: in the timeline of the loaded component, you should get the properties rootIcon and FileLocation, and the methods broadcast() and debug(); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 20 February 2012 10:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: events in component swf In the onLoad event handler in the component, broadcast("yourEventName") and listen for it in Xerte. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2012 15:41 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] events in component swf I have a swf loaded into a component. That swf contains a function that loads some data via sendAndLoad. Is there any way to trap for that loaded swf onLoad event in Xerte? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2012 15:41 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] events in component swf I have a swf loaded into a component.That swf contains a function that loads some data via sendAndLoad.Is there any way to trap for that loaded swf onLoad event in Xerte? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap "Flash Platform technology will continue to evolve with a focus on gaming and premium video." ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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"Prototype" and "after" From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap This was the interesting bit: Falcon JS compiler contribution to ApacheFalcon JS is an experimental ActionScript 3 compiler that targets JavaScript rather than the Flash Runtime. Adobe will contribute the prototype of Falcon JS source code to the Apache Flex Project after the completion and contribution of Falcon 1.0. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap "Flash Platform technology will continue to evolve with a focus on gaming and premium video." From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmaphttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap Yes, noticed that. "Prototype" and "after" ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap This was the interesting bit: Falcon JS compiler contribution to Apache Falcon JS is an experimental ActionScript 3 compiler that targets JavaScript rather than the Flash Runtime. Adobe will contribute the prototype of Falcon JS source code to the Apache Flex Project after the completion and contribution of Falcon 1.0. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap "Flash Platform technology will continue to evolve with a focus on gaming and premium video." ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap Yes, noticed that. "Prototype" and "after"From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex RoadmapThis was the interesting bit: Falcon JS compiler contribution to ApacheFalcon JS is an experimental ActionScript 3 compiler that targets JavaScript rather than the Flash Runtime. Adobe will contribute the prototype of Falcon JS source code to the Apache Flex Project after the completion and contribution of Falcon 1.0. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap "Flash Platform technology will continue to evolve with a focus on gaming and premium video." From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmaphttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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"Prototype" and "after" ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap This was the interesting bit: Falcon JS compiler contribution to Apache Falcon JS is an experimental ActionScript 3 compiler that targets JavaScript rather than the Flash Runtime. Adobe will contribute the prototype of Falcon JS source code to the Apache Flex Project after the completion and contribution of Falcon 1.0. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 16:08 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap >author once, deliver to any browser Wasn't that Java?;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:02:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex RoadmapWell, there is a race on for good component based framework that can do author once, deliver to any browser, and if they can get .mxml pumping out JavaScript, css and html then brilliant, especially if you happen to know a guy who can write .mxml editors with an elearning flavour to them? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap Yes, noticed that. "Prototype" and "after"From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex RoadmapThis was the interesting bit: Falcon JS compiler contribution to ApacheFalcon JS is an experimental ActionScript 3 compiler that targets JavaScript rather than the Flash Runtime. Adobe will contribute the prototype of Falcon JS source code to the Apache Flex Project after the completion and contribution of Falcon 1.0. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 20 February 2012 15:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmap "Flash Platform technology will continue to evolve with a focus on gaming and premium video." From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Future of Xerte: Flex Roadmaphttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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If you like it, could you flag it as working on the WordPress site? If poss. I don't mind if you star rate it or not, just "is working" is a nice rating. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Simon Barne wrote: > I missed the announcement of this > (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/xerte-online/) and just spotted > it among some WordPress plugins. It was like bumping into an old > friend. > > It's wonderful. A doddle to install. Works perfectly so far. > Congratulations to Mr Pat! > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Steve (VLE Newbie) Steven Snead Business Systems Manager, Deputy Designated Safeguarding Person Skills for Security - a Not for Profit Company set up by the industry to invest in skills for the Security Business Sector Direct: 01905 744 051 Mobile: 07817 549 468 Facsimile: 01905 724 949 Website: www.skillsforsecurity.org.uk Skills for Security Limited, Security House, Barbourne Road, Worcester, WR1 1RS Registered Number: 4382724. Registered in England and Wales. Disclaimer: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, any distribution, dissemination, copying or use of this email or the information in it is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, then please telephone Skills for Security immediately on 0845 075 0111 and delete it from your system. Please note that Skills for Security may monitor email traffic for security purposes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 22 14:55:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:55:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] How does Xerte handle style sheets? Message-ID: I am developing a default rlo file for Xerte 2.18 individual page template projects and have a working experimental layout editor included that sets as many colours and positions for things as I can find how to do. There are some settings that I have not found a way to set from a script so these I have to set using a style sheet. The example in this case is the titleBarColour. I am experiencing something rather strange. I have a style sheet and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red colourScheme { titleBarColour: 0xFF0000; } If I load the style sheet via the property panel of the learning object then all is well and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red and the rest of the screen settings that I have set in code work correctly. However if instead of using the property panel I use a field in the xwd form associated with the learning object and then use the code //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } to load the style sheet, then all the colour settings that I have made by script get reset. The screen flashes briefly with my set colours and then reverts to the default colours other than those set in the style sheet. Which is not what I want to happen. I have attached a pdf with screen shots showing the difference. Is there a way of loading the stylesheet using the xwd form without having it overwrite the changes I have made in script? Incidentally this even happens if I run my script to change the screen settings after I run the script that loads the style sheet. You can see settings such as button position persist, just the colours settings are rendered ineffective. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: styleSheet test.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 117104 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 22 15:26:00 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:26:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: How does Xerte handle style sheets? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you try the engine in the svn? I did some work on loadstyles last week, ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 22 February 2012 14:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] How does Xerte handle style sheets? I am developing a default rlo file for Xerte 2.18 individual page template projects and have a working experimental layout editor included that sets as many colours and positions for things as I can find how to do. There are some settings that I have not found a way to set from a script so these I have to set using a style sheet. The example in this case is the titleBarColour. I am experiencing something rather strange. I have a style sheet and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red colourScheme { titleBarColour: 0xFF0000; } If I load the style sheet via the property panel of the learning object then all is well and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red and the rest of the screen settings that I have set in code work correctly. However if instead of using the property panel I use a field in the xwd form associated with the learning object and then use the code //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } to load the style sheet, then all the colour settings that I have made by script get reset. The screen flashes briefly with my set colours and then reverts to the default colours other than those set in the style sheet. Which is not what I want to happen. I have attached a pdf with screen shots showing the difference. Is there a way of loading the stylesheet using the xwd form without having it overwrite the changes I have made in script? Incidentally this even happens if I run my script to change the screen settings after I run the script that loads the style sheet. You can see settings such as button position persist, just the colours settings are rendered ineffective. Kind regards Johnathan From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 22 16:13:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:13:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: How does Xerte handle style sheets? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: There have been so many releases of key files that I have tended to keep the old copies. I have worked my way through the previous releases of XMLengine.swf and it appears to have been a change that came in with the version with a date stamp of the 8th of February. The version of the 4th of February allows the combination of xwd stylesheet and scripted settings to co-exist. The version released on the 8th Feb resets the scripted colour changes. Hope that helps narrow it down a bit. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 February 2012 15:26, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you try the engine in the svn? I did some work on loadstyles last week, > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > Sent: 22 February 2012 14:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] How does Xerte handle style sheets? > > I am developing a default rlo file for Xerte 2.18 individual page template > projects and have a working experimental layout editor included that sets > as many colours and positions for things as I can find how to do. > > There are some settings that I have not found a way to set from a script > so these I have to set using a style sheet. The example in this case is the > titleBarColour. > > I am experiencing something rather strange. > > I have a style sheet and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red > > colourScheme { > titleBarColour: 0xFF0000; > } > > If I load the style sheet via the property panel of the learning object > then all is well and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red and the > rest of the screen settings that I have set in code work correctly. > > However if instead of using the property panel I use a field in the xwd > form associated with the learning object and then use the code > > //stylesheet > if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ > rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, > this)); > } > > to load the style sheet, then all the colour settings that I have made by > script get reset. The screen flashes briefly with my set colours and then > reverts to the default colours other than those set in the style sheet. > Which is not what I want to happen. > > I have attached a pdf with screen shots showing the difference. > > Is there a way of loading the stylesheet using the xwd form without having > it overwrite the changes I have made in script? > > Incidentally this even happens if I run my script to change the screen > settings after I run the script that loads the style sheet. > > You can see settings such as button position persist, just the colours > settings are rendered ineffective. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Authorware1,649 members-16% year over year Captivate14.6K members-3% year over year SCORM4,338 members-4% year over year E-learning Development4,980 members-8% year over year E-learning153K members0% year over year Learning Management23.3K members-3% year over year -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan.bohdanowicz at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 14:43:07 2012 From: alan.bohdanowicz at gmail.com (Alan Bohdanowicz) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:43:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Disabling the Hand Cursor Message-ID: I've created an interaction with multiple drag and drop objects and target areas as well as a quiz. It looks and works okay when the interaction loads up (the hand cursor appears only when hovered over the draggable items and disappears when not hovered), but then something breaks. For some reason when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit button(to check if the objects were dropped to the correct areas) the hand cursor just stays there permanently. Is there a way to either disable the hand cursor globally or disable it when the submit button is pressed? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 23 19:51:02 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:51:02 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] drag/drop question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000301ccf19e$32897de0$979c79a0$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I have a target area with items defined thus: item1~snap~1,item2~snap~1 I'm using the endDrag parameter = 1 to stop the dragging of the item. 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I am unable to open .config files, so if I need to change something, I'll need help with how to open that, as well! Thanks in advance! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 24 05:09:03 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:09:03 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Message-ID: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> I'm using xerte desktop. I want a sound to play in a sound icon on entering a page IF trackingData.audioPlay = 1 (set on a checkbox on the main menu SWF), but can't seem to make this work with or without using the Eval function. Is the sound icon 'play' property hardwired to accept only a literal '0' or '1' or can should I be able to use vars or array values in these fields? Or am I just doing something wrong here? Thanks for any tips! RonM2 A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I'm holding this in the 'trackingData' array, however this seems to be a field that can't interpret the array value. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 11980 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 08:31:20 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:31:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){ icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '1'; } else { icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '0'; } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 24 February 2012 05:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value I'm using xerte desktop. I want a sound to play in a sound icon on entering a page IF trackingData.audioPlay = 1 (set on a checkbox on the main menu SWF), but can't seem to make this work with or without using the Eval function. Is the sound icon 'play' property hardwired to accept only a literal '0' or '1' or can should I be able to use vars or array values in these fields? Or am I just doing something wrong here? Thanks for any tips! RonM2 [cid:image001.png at 01CCF2CE.AF37B470] A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I'm holding this in the 'trackingData' array, however this seems to be a field that can't interpret the array value. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 11980 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 08:38:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:38:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Did you run the server? What error message do you get? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey Sent: 24 February 2012 02:17 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Standalone Install Problems I am an elementary teacher with NO server experience. I've been using the desktop version on Xerte (which I love!) and sending it to my Tech Coordinator to load onto the server for the students to access. I've heard that the Online Toolkits in a little more intuitive, but have been unable to install using Xampp. When I try to go to I get an error message in my browser. Note that I am attempting to install on a standalone laptop, not a server. I've seen in the archives that others have had this issue but I've not found a resolution that works for me. I am unable to open .config files, so if I need to change something, I'll need help with how to open that, as well! Thanks in advance! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 08:41:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:41:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: drag/drop question In-Reply-To: References: <000301ccf19e$32897de0$979c79a0$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC067B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The onPress / onRelease handlers are deleted at the minute. I'd have to add some engine stuff to make the reenableable. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 23 February 2012 19:51 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] drag/drop question If I have a target area with items defined thus: item1~snap~1,item2~snap~1 I'm using the endDrag parameter = 1 to stop the dragging of the item. Any way to reenable that item or is endDrag removing it from the target list? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 08:44:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:44:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Disabling the Hand Cursor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0680@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit button When you roll off the dropped item, and move the mouse to the button, what happens to the cursor? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Bohdanowicz Sent: 23 February 2012 14:43 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Disabling the Hand Cursor I've created an interaction with multiple drag and drop objects and target areas as well as a quiz. It looks and works okay when the interaction loads up (the hand cursor appears only when hovered over the draggable items and disappears when not hovered), but then something breaks. For some reason when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit button(to check if the objects were dropped to the correct areas) the hand cursor just stays there permanently. Is there a way to either disable the hand cursor globally or disable it when the submit button is pressed? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 08:46:09 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:46:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Comments on trend In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0682@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not sure. But we are "Technology enhanced learning" now. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 23 February 2012 13:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Comments on trend I received one of those standard LinkedIn emails today beseeching me to update my profile. It made some suggestions for additional skills to add, along with the changes in numbers of members listing those skills. Every one of the e-learning percentages was negative. AW was no surprise of course, but the rest?? Authorware 1,649 members -16% year over year Captivate 14.6K members -3% year over year SCORM 4,338 members -4% year over year E-learning Development 4,980 members -8% year over year E-learning 153K members 0% year over year Learning Management 23.3K members -3% year over year -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 09:50:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:50:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: How does Xerte handle style sheets? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think you probably want an event broadcasting 'onLoadStyles' that you can listen for and then make your scripted changes in the event response. I've just added that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 22 February 2012 16:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: How does Xerte handle style sheets? There have been so many releases of key files that I have tended to keep the old copies. I have worked my way through the previous releases of XMLengine.swf and it appears to have been a change that came in with the version with a date stamp of the 8th of February. The version of the 4th of February allows the combination of xwd stylesheet and scripted settings to co-exist. The version released on the 8th Feb resets the scripted colour changes. Hope that helps narrow it down a bit. Kind regards Johnathan On 22 February 2012 15:26, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can you try the engine in the svn? I did some work on loadstyles last week, ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 22 February 2012 14:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] How does Xerte handle style sheets? I am developing a default rlo file for Xerte 2.18 individual page template projects and have a working experimental layout editor included that sets as many colours and positions for things as I can find how to do. There are some settings that I have not found a way to set from a script so these I have to set using a style sheet. The example in this case is the titleBarColour. I am experiencing something rather strange. I have a style sheet and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red colourScheme { titleBarColour: 0xFF0000; } If I load the style sheet via the property panel of the learning object then all is well and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red and the rest of the screen settings that I have set in code work correctly. However if instead of using the property panel I use a field in the xwd form associated with the learning object and then use the code //stylesheet if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, this)); } to load the style sheet, then all the colour settings that I have made by script get reset. The screen flashes briefly with my set colours and then reverts to the default colours other than those set in the style sheet. Which is not what I want to happen. I have attached a pdf with screen shots showing the difference. Is there a way of loading the stylesheet using the xwd form without having it overwrite the changes I have made in script? Incidentally this even happens if I run my script to change the screen settings after I run the script that loads the style sheet. You can see settings such as button position persist, just the colours settings are rendered ineffective. Kind regards Johnathan _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan.bohdanowicz at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 13:03:00 2012 From: alan.bohdanowicz at gmail.com (Alan Bohdanowicz) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:03:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Disabling the Hand Cursor In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0680@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0680@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nothing, the "hand" cursor just stays there. It does not change to the arrow. From what Dave Burnett has already explained to me, this is because I've set something like this in the script -> "lbl1.enabled = false;" which disables the object once it is dropped on a target area. This was done because I need the objects to stay on the target areas once dropped, until the user presses the submit button which checks whether the objects match the target areas. If the user drops the correct objects to the correct target areas feedback appears and the interaction is finished, if not -the objects are moved to their original positions and can be dragged again. This was the only way that I could think off to get this functionality. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit > button**** > > ** ** > > When you roll off the dropped item, and move the mouse to the button, what > happens to the cursor?**** > > ** ** > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Alan Bohdanowicz > *Sent:* 23 February 2012 14:43 > > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Disabling the Hand Cursor**** > > ** ** > > I've created an interaction with multiple drag and drop objects and target > areas as well as a quiz. It looks and works okay when the interaction loads > up (the hand cursor appears only when hovered over the draggable items > and disappears when not hovered), but then something breaks. For some > reason when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit > button(to check if the objects were dropped to the correct areas) the hand > cursor just stays there permanently. Is there a way to either disable the > hand cursor globally or disable it when the submit button is pressed? **** > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 13:11:42 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:11:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Disabling the Hand Cursor In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0680@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0916@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Dave's trying some stuff right now I think, we've added a couple of lines of code to the engine to make this easier, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Bohdanowicz Sent: 24 February 2012 13:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Disabling the Hand Cursor Nothing, the "hand" cursor just stays there. It does not change to the arrow. From what Dave Burnett has already explained to me, this is because I've set something like this in the script -> "lbl1.enabled = false;" which disables the object once it is dropped on a target area. This was done because I need the objects to stay on the target areas once dropped, until the user presses the submit button which checks whether the objects match the target areas. If the user drops the correct objects to the correct target areas feedback appears and the interaction is finished, if not -the objects are moved to their original positions and can be dragged again. This was the only way that I could think off to get this functionality. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit button When you roll off the dropped item, and move the mouse to the button, what happens to the cursor? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Bohdanowicz Sent: 23 February 2012 14:43 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Disabling the Hand Cursor I've created an interaction with multiple drag and drop objects and target areas as well as a quiz. It looks and works okay when the interaction loads up (the hand cursor appears only when hovered over the draggable items and disappears when not hovered), but then something breaks. For some reason when I drop the final object to a target area and press the submit button(to check if the objects were dropped to the correct areas) the hand cursor just stays there permanently. Is there a way to either disable the hand cursor globally or disable it when the submit button is pressed? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Stephanie.Carey at portsmouthtrojans.net Fri Feb 24 14:11:40 2012 From: Stephanie.Carey at portsmouthtrojans.net (Stephanie Carey) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:11:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Julian - "Did you run the server?" -- I think so -- I started Xampp and started Apache and MySql "What error message do you get?" - Just the basic "Broken Link" message in the browser. I've gotten it with both Chrome and Explorer. Thanks for your help! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:38 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems Did you run the server? What error message do you get? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey Sent: 24 February 2012 02:17 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Standalone Install Problems I am an elementary teacher with NO server experience. I've been using the desktop version on Xerte (which I love!) and sending it to my Tech Coordinator to load onto the server for the students to access. I've heard that the Online Toolkits in a little more intuitive, but have been unable to install using Xampp. When I try to go to I get an error message in my browser. Note that I am attempting to install on a standalone laptop, not a server. I've seen in the archives that others have had this issue but I've not found a resolution that works for me. I am unable to open .config files, so if I need to change something, I'll need help with how to open that, as well! Thanks in advance! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Feb 24 14:23:15 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:23:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: mac or pc? if mac is there a folder called /applications/xampp/htdocs/xertetoolkits/ on pc c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Stephanie Carey wrote: > Julian - > > "Did you run the server?" -- I think so -- I started Xampp and started Apache and MySql > > "What error message do you get?" ?- Just the basic "Broken Link" message in the browser. ?I've gotten it with both Chrome and Explorer. > > Thanks for your help! > > Stephanie J. Carey > ?Technology Teacher > ?Portsmouth Elementary School > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:38 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems > > Did you run the server? What error message do you get? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey > Sent: 24 February 2012 02:17 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Standalone Install Problems > > I am an elementary teacher with NO server experience. I've been using the desktop version on Xerte (which I love!) and sending it to my Tech Coordinator to load onto the server for the students to access. I've heard that the Online Toolkits in a little more intuitive, but have been unable to install using Xampp. ?When I try to go to I get an error message in my browser. ?Note that I am attempting to install on a standalone laptop, not a server. I've seen in the archives that others have had this issue but I've not found a resolution that works for me. ?I am unable to open .config files, so if I need to change something, I'll need help with how to open that, as well! > > Thanks in advance! > > Stephanie J. Carey > ?Technology Teacher > ?Portsmouth Elementary School > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 14:33:51 2012 From: Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk (Fay Cross) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:33:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Stephanie Have you unzipped the xertetoolkits.zip in the right place so all the files are in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits? I think in the past some people have created a folder called xertetoolkits and unzipped it in there so they actually have the files in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\xertetoolkits If you have unzipped it correctly and can see the folder C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\setup I don't have any other ideas but while you are waiting for someone else to help out you might want to try Toolkits on the Techdis sandpit at http://www.techdisplayxerte.info/ It'll give you a better idea of how it compares to the standalone version you're already using without having to install anything first -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey Sent: 24 February 2012 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems Julian - "Did you run the server?" -- I think so -- I started Xampp and started Apache and MySql "What error message do you get?" - Just the basic "Broken Link" message in the browser. I've gotten it with both Chrome and Explorer. Thanks for your help! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:38 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems Did you run the server? What error message do you get? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey Sent: 24 February 2012 02:17 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Standalone Install Problems I am an elementary teacher with NO server experience. I've been using the desktop version on Xerte (which I love!) and sending it to my Tech Coordinator to load onto the server for the students to access. I've heard that the Online Toolkits in a little more intuitive, but have been unable to install using Xampp. When I try to go to I get an error message in my browser. Note that I am attempting to install on a standalone laptop, not a server. I've seen in the archives that others have had this issue but I've not found a resolution that works for me. I am unable to open .config files, so if I need to change something, I'll need help with how to open that, as well! Thanks in advance! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Fri Feb 24 17:29:45 2012 From: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com (Thomas Rochford) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:29:45 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Hi Stephanie, If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop is locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that will run on a USB stick from http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On a Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be available from the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a number of new templates as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. Kindest Regards, Thomas _____________________________________________ Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ Skype: cambridge.serendipity Mob: 07500 669 002 Fax: 01223 563142 ?Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail From Stephanie.Carey at portsmouthtrojans.net Fri Feb 24 19:20:26 2012 From: Stephanie.Carey at portsmouthtrojans.net (Stephanie Carey) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: I am on a PC and have installed Xampp, turned on both Apache and MySqyl. I have extracted the toolkits into c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ When I get to the step in the installation guide about "Then start a web browser, and then visit this address http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/" Error: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404 localhost 02/24/12 14:05:32 Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 Thanks! Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford [thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:29 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems Hi Stephanie, If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop is locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that will run on a USB stick from http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On a Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be available from the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a number of new templates as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. Kindest Regards, Thomas _____________________________________________ Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ Skype: cambridge.serendipity Mob: 07500 669 002 Fax: 01223 563142 Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Feb 24 19:52:31 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:52:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: hello c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ is equivalent to http://localhost/toolkit/ so rename c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ to c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ And try again Pat On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Stephanie Carey wrote: > I am on a PC and have installed Xampp, turned on both Apache and MySqyl. ?I have extracted the toolkits into c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > When I get to the step in the installation guide about "Then start a web browser, and then visit this address > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/" > > Error: > > Object not found! > > The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > Error 404 > > localhost > 02/24/12 14:05:32 > Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 > > Thanks! > > > Stephanie J. Carey > ?Technology Teacher > ?Portsmouth Elementary School > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford [thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:29 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems > > Hi Stephanie, > > If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop is > locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that will run > on a USB stick from > > http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip > > you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: > > http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx > > The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On a > Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be available from > the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a number of new templates > as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > _____________________________________________ > Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com > Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ > Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Mob: 07500 669 002 > Fax: 01223 563142 > ?Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this > e-mail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 24 20:02:48 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:02:48 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte within WordPress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000801ccf32f$48a7f100$d9f7d300$@kccsoft.com> I can't keep up with you guys....just wondering if there are any demo sites of the light toolkits version running on Wordpress that one might view? No time yet to play with it... RonM2 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Feb 24 20:15:18 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:15:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte within WordPress In-Reply-To: <000801ccf32f$48a7f100$d9f7d300$@kccsoft.com> References: <000801ccf32f$48a7f100$d9f7d300$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: screen shots on the wordpress plugin page Not got a site that's made anything explicit yet. Guess I could repurpose play_560? Thoughts? On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM, KnowledgeWare wrote: > I can't keep up with you guys....just wondering if there are any demo sites > of the light toolkits version running on Wordpress that one might view? No > time yet to play with it... > > RonM2 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 24 20:16:20 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:16:20 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000901ccf331$2cdf23b0$869d6b10$@kccsoft.com> Thanks! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){ icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '1'; } else { icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '0'; } From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 24 February 2012 05:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value I'm using xerte desktop. I want a sound to play in a sound icon on entering a page IF trackingData.audioPlay = 1 (set on a checkbox on the main menu SWF), but can't seem to make this work with or without using the Eval function. Is the sound icon 'play' property hardwired to accept only a literal '0' or '1' or can should I be able to use vars or array values in these fields? Or am I just doing something wrong here? Thanks for any tips! RonM2 A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I'm holding this in the 'trackingData' array, however this seems to be a field that can't interpret the array value. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Using a script in a previous icon I'm sure would work but would mean a lot of coding and extra icons. Any other creative way come to mind that I might be able to force this sound icon 'play' property to evaluate to 1 or 0 from afar, globally perhaps? Any kind a big hammer that I could try whacking this thing with? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){ icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '1'; } else { icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '0'; } A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). 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Thanks, Franklin From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat Feb 25 00:31:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:31:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi, I'd like to translate Xerte to Chinese In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35044245-EF14-4305-AB41-CD95ED047296@googlemail.com> Hello, Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. Pat On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng wrote: > Hi list, > > I'd like to translate Xerte to Chinese. I googled some and knew that > there seems to be many components of Xerte. > > Do you have a document to tell us how to translate all these > components into another language? Currently I just downloaded > toolkits and saw that the language packages are in xml form. But I > have no idea how many components Xerte has and how to get all the > necessary components to translate. Do you have a translation plan, or > platform, to let others do the translation easily? > > > Thanks, > Franklin > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw Sat Feb 25 02:25:26 2012 From: franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw (Franklin Weng) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:25:26 +0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi, I'd like to translate Xerte to Chinese In-Reply-To: <35044245-EF14-4305-AB41-CD95ED047296@googlemail.com> References: <35044245-EF14-4305-AB41-CD95ED047296@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Thanks. I saw that there is a folder named 'language'. I think that toolkit should support multi-language, right? I'd just wanna know if there is a document or tutorial to tell us how to add a new language. And, besides toolkit, are there other component that we should translate? Thanks, Franklin Sent from my phone 2012-2-25 ??8:33? "Pat Lockley" ??? Hello, Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. Pat On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng wrote: > Hi list, > > I'd lik... > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I think that toolkit should support multi-language, right? I'd just wanna know if there is a document or tutorial to tell us how to add a new language. > > And, besides toolkit, are there other component that we should translate? > > Thanks, > Franklin > > Sent from my phone > >> 2012-2-25 ??8:33? "Pat Lockley" ??? >> >> Hello, >> >> Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. >> >> Pat >> >> On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng wrote: >> >> > Hi list, >> > >> > I'd lik... >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Xerte mailing list >> > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 16:29:54 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:29:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: I will be including in the default rlo file for pages project the code to support narration. If you include the narration handlers in your projects rlo i.e. have an entry frame and add the narration handlers to that (with some slight recoding to accomodate being in the desktop environment you could then launch your playing of sound by setting narration to the path of your sound file and then broadcasting the event to trigger the narration. Kind regards Johnathan On 24 February 2012 21:01, KnowledgeWare wrote: > The {} don?t seem to work, Eval doesn?t force the value either. Using a > script in a previous icon I?m sure would work but would mean a lot of > coding and extra icons. > > > > Any other creative way come to mind that I might be able to force this > sound icon ?play? property to evaluate to 1 or 0 from afar, globally > perhaps? Any kind a big hammer that I could try whacking this thing with? > > > > RonM2 > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an > array value > > > > Did you try the expression in {}s? > > > > Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a > script immediately before the sound icon do > > > > If (someCOndition == true){ > > icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = ?1?; > > } else { > > icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = ?0?; > > } > > > > > > > > A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on > entering each page (Play = 1). I?m holding this in the ?trackingData? > array, however this seems to be a field that can?t interpret the array > value. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 16:34:40 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:34:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> Message-ID: Stephanie, If you are one of several developers in your institution who want to work together on projects then Online toolkits may be the best way to go. However if you are the only developer of learning objects or there are only a couple of you and you are creating learning objects, publishing them and then copying the published files to an existing web server to make them available to your students then you might want to stay with desktop xerte. Particularly after the next version release when all the individual page templates will be accessible in the desktop editor, so that you can have the best of both worlds. Just my take on things. Kind regards Johnathan On 24 February 2012 19:52, Pat Lockley wrote: > hello > > c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > is equivalent to > > http://localhost/toolkit/ > > so rename > > c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > to > > c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ > > And try again > > Pat > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Stephanie Carey > wrote: > > I am on a PC and have installed Xampp, turned on both Apache and MySqyl. > I have extracted the toolkits into c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > > > When I get to the step in the installation guide about "Then start a web > browser, and then visit this address > > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/" > > > > Error: > > > > Object not found! > > > > The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL > manually please check your spelling and try again. > > > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > > > Error 404 > > > > localhost > > 02/24/12 14:05:32 > > Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 > mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Stephanie J. Carey > > Technology Teacher > > Portsmouth Elementary School > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford [ > thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com] > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:29 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems > > > > Hi Stephanie, > > > > If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop is > > locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that will > run > > on a USB stick from > > > > http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip > > > > you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: > > > > http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx > > > > The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On a > > Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be available > from > > the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a number of new > templates > > as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. > > > > Kindest Regards, > > Thomas > > _____________________________________________ > > Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com > > Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ > > Skype: cambridge.serendipity > > Mob: 07500 669 002 > > Fax: 01223 563142 > > Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this > > e-mail > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0731@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello Julian, Thanks for that, the layout script is now running after the style sheet has loaded. Kind regards Johnathan On 24 February 2012 09:50, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think you probably want an event broadcasting ?onLoadStyles? that you > can listen for and then make your scripted changes in the event response. > I?ve just added that. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 22 February 2012 16:14 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: How does Xerte handle style sheets? > > > > There have been so many releases of key files that I have tended to keep > the old copies. > > > > I have worked my way through the previous releases of XMLengine.swf and it > appears to have been a change that came in with the version with a date > stamp of the 8th of February. The version of the 4th of February allows the > combination of xwd stylesheet and scripted settings to co-exist. The > version released on the 8th Feb resets the scripted colour changes. > > > > Hope that helps narrow it down a bit. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 22 February 2012 15:26, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can you try the engine in the svn? I did some work on loadstyles last week, > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > Sent: 22 February 2012 14:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] How does Xerte handle style sheets? > > > I am developing a default rlo file for Xerte 2.18 individual page template > projects and have a working experimental layout editor included that sets > as many colours and positions for things as I can find how to do. > > There are some settings that I have not found a way to set from a script > so these I have to set using a style sheet. The example in this case is the > titleBarColour. > > I am experiencing something rather strange. > > I have a style sheet and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red > > colourScheme { > titleBarColour: 0xFF0000; > } > > If I load the style sheet via the property panel of the learning object > then all is well and all it does is set the titleBarColour to red and the > rest of the screen settings that I have set in code work correctly. > > However if instead of using the property panel I use a field in the xwd > form associated with the learning object and then use the code > > //stylesheet > if (templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet != undefined){ > rootIcon.loadStyleSheet(expression(templateData.learningObject[0].stylesheet, > this)); > } > > to load the style sheet, then all the colour settings that I have made by > script get reset. The screen flashes briefly with my set colours and then > reverts to the default colours other than those set in the style sheet. > Which is not what I want to happen. > > I have attached a pdf with screen shots showing the difference. > > Is there a way of loading the stylesheet using the xwd form without having > it overwrite the changes I have made in script? > > Incidentally this even happens if I run my script to change the screen > settings after I run the script that loads the style sheet. > > You can see settings such as button position persist, just the colours > settings are rendered ineffective. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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I found a link here http://www.ozoneasylum.com/27609 that discussed a possible solution for displaying chinese characters in flash. Can I suggest that you download desktop Xerte and create a pageTemplates project. Then try adding some chinese into one of the text pages form fields that display text. If you can get that to work you could be well on the way to a solution as far as the display of text in the pages is concerned as translation for the page templates is being implemented by making all the text on the page accessible via the page's form. Perhaps you would like to post back to the list to let us know how you get on. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 February 2012 09:45, Pat Lockley wrote: > The support for languages other than English isn't Finished yet, but it > should be in the next version. Not sure when it will be released. > > > On 25 Feb 2012, at 02:25, Franklin Weng wrote: > > Thanks. I saw that there is a folder named 'language'. I think that > toolkit should support multi-language, right? I'd just wanna know if there > is a document or tutorial to tell us how to add a new language. > > And, besides toolkit, are there other component that we should translate? > > Thanks, > Franklin > > Sent from my phone > > 2012-2-25 ??8:33? "Pat Lockley" ??? > > Hello, > > Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. > > Pat > > > On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > I'd lik... > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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I am not sure if this will handle chinese characters, I am pretty sure it is not working in unicode. I remember briefly looking at trying to translate something to Hebrew as a test, by pasting a translation from Google translate and it messed up the ordering of all the characters. I found a link here http://www.ozoneasylum.com/27609 that discussed a possible solution for displaying chinese characters in flash. Can I suggest that you download desktop Xerte and create a pageTemplates project. Then try adding some chinese into one of the text pages form fields that display text. If you can get that to work you could be well on the way to a solution as far as the display of text in the pages is concerned as translation for the page templates is being implemented by making all the text on the page accessible via the page's form. Perhaps you would like to post back to the list to let us know how you get on. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 February 2012 09:45, Pat Lockley > wrote: The support for languages other than English isn't Finished yet, but it should be in the next version. Not sure when it will be released. On 25 Feb 2012, at 02:25, Franklin Weng > wrote: Thanks. I saw that there is a folder named 'language'. I think that toolkit should support multi-language, right? I'd just wanna know if there is a document or tutorial to tell us how to add a new language. And, besides toolkit, are there other component that we should translate? Thanks, Franklin Sent from my phone 2012-2-25 ??8:33? "Pat Lockley" > ??? Hello, Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. Pat On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng > wrote: > Hi list, > > I'd lik... > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Message-ID: Dear all, My name is Anna and I am a medical student who has been using Xerte to create an e-tutorial as an optional unit for my course. I am by no means a computer expert, but have managed to muddle through by using the Xerte templates. I packaged and submitted my work months ago, but now wish to edit it. However, I am having problems because whilst I can edit the text/media content of the work in the template builder (and seemingly, I can save it) I cannot preview it. When I press 'preview', the titles of each page load, but none of the content for each page loads. It doesn't seem to be a problem with my flash player because I have tried updating it and it makes no difference. I cannot even load the packaged web pages on my computer. Does anyone have any ideas on what could be going wrong, please? I am very happy to send someone my files if that would be helpful. Please bear in mind that I know nothing about programming so it would be helpful if advice was non jargon-ny, or completely step-by-step! Thank you ever so much in advance, Anna. ---------------------- AL Guyatt ag7719 at bristol.ac.uk From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sun Feb 26 15:19:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:19:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problems previewing in Xerte - help please! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, When you re edit the file, have you taken it out of the "package"? Sometimes editing within a zip file doesn't work. Sorry if this is obvious. Pat On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM, AL Guyatt wrote: > Dear all, > > My name is Anna and I am a medical student who has been using Xerte to > create an e-tutorial as an optional unit for my course. I am by no means a > computer expert, but have managed to muddle through by using the Xerte > templates. > > I packaged and submitted my work months ago, but now wish to edit it. > However, I am having problems because whilst I can edit the text/media > content of the work in the template builder (and seemingly, I can save it) I > cannot preview it. When I press 'preview', the titles of each page load, but > none of the content for each page loads. It doesn't seem to be a problem > with my flash player because I have tried updating it and it makes no > difference. > > I cannot even load the packaged web pages on my computer. > > Does anyone have any ideas on what could be going wrong, please? I am very > happy to send someone my files if that would be helpful. Please bear in mind > that I know nothing about programming so it would be helpful if advice was > non jargon-ny, or completely step-by-step! > > Thank you ever so much in advance, > > Anna. > > ---------------------- > AL Guyatt > ag7719 at bristol.ac.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 07:36:34 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:36:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com>, , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B76@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When do you see the debug messages? Navigate will find its way right through from the top level framework... so, yes, the FW_ENT will be re-entered From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 26 February 2012 12:00 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] navigate bug? Scene: Button inside entrypane attached to IFC. rootIcon.navigate('target'); //debug in here executes twice //id='target' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am not sure if this will handle chinese characters, I am pretty sure it is not working in unicode. I remember briefly looking at trying to translate something to Hebrew as a test, by pasting a translation from Google translate and it messed up the ordering of all the characters. I found a link here http://www.ozoneasylum.com/27609 that discussed a possible solution for displaying chinese characters in flash. Can I suggest that you download desktop Xerte and create a pageTemplates project. Then try adding some chinese into one of the text pages form fields that display text. If you can get that to work you could be well on the way to a solution as far as the display of text in the pages is concerned as translation for the page templates is being implemented by making all the text on the page accessible via the page's form. Perhaps you would like to post back to the list to let us know how you get on. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 February 2012 09:45, Pat Lockley > wrote: The support for languages other than English isn't Finished yet, but it should be in the next version. Not sure when it will be released. On 25 Feb 2012, at 02:25, Franklin Weng > wrote: Thanks. I saw that there is a folder named 'language'. I think that toolkit should support multi-language, right? I'd just wanna know if there is a document or tutorial to tell us how to add a new language. And, besides toolkit, are there other component that we should translate? Thanks, Franklin Sent from my phone 2012-2-25 ??8:33? "Pat Lockley" > ??? Hello, Hopefully the next version of toolkits will support multiple languages. Pat On 25 Feb 2012, at 00:23, Franklin Weng > wrote: > Hi list, > > I'd lik... > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM, KnowledgeWare wrote: > I can't keep up with you guys....just wondering if there are any demo sites > of the light toolkits version running on Wordpress that one might view? No > time yet to play with it... > > RonM2 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 08:05:52 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:05:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The {} should work now: can you test it please. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 24 February 2012 21:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value The {} don't seem to work, Eval doesn't force the value either. Using a script in a previous icon I'm sure would work but would mean a lot of coding and extra icons. Any other creative way come to mind that I might be able to force this sound icon 'play' property to evaluate to 1 or 0 from afar, globally perhaps? Any kind a big hammer that I could try whacking this thing with? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){ icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '1'; } else { icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '0'; } [cid:image001.png at 01CCF526.9FFBBF60] A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I'm holding this in the 'trackingData' array, however this seems to be a field that can't interpret the array value. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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See attached image. > > How do I fix this? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From M.C.Highfield at exeter.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 11:08:47 2012 From: M.C.Highfield at exeter.ac.uk (Highfield, Michael) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:08:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we'd prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they've loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I'd greatly appreciate your views. Kind regards Mike Highfield Team Leader: University of Exeter Online Learning Academic Services (Education Enhancement) Room 710, Laver Building North Park Road Streatham Campus Exeter University EX4 4QE * Tel: 01392 725724/ Internal 5724 * m.c.highfield at exeter.ac.uk ? http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mikehighfield Disclaimer: http://as.exeter.ac.uk/divisions/ee/emaildisclaimer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation index.php deleted? On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Hi > > I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! > > When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and > folders on the server. See attached image. > > How do I fix this? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Oli > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Oliver Haslam > > Course Developer (Technologist) > > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > > > Technology Enhanced Learning > > University of the West of England > > _______________________________ > > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 11:13:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:13:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0D6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The user uploads the video into a project in xerte? And then you play that using a different streaming server? How do you do that? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Highfield, Michael Sent: 27 February 2012 11:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we'd prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they've loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I'd greatly appreciate your views. Kind regards Mike Highfield Team Leader: University of Exeter Online Learning Academic Services (Education Enhancement) Room 710, Laver Building North Park Road Streatham Campus Exeter University EX4 4QE * Tel: 01392 725724/ Internal 5724 * m.c.highfield at exeter.ac.uk ? http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mikehighfield Disclaimer: http://as.exeter.ac.uk/divisions/ee/emaildisclaimer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 11:17:07 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:17:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Looks like an install was moved? Open database.php and see what username and password are used. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thanks Pat. > > Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: > "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > index.php deleted? > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Hi >> >> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >> >> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >> folders on the server. See attached image. >> >> How do I fix this? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 27 11:36:53 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:36:53 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <011201ccf544$1c549bf0$54fdd3d0$@co.uk> If an LO author uses the Insert > Media > Video page and browses to and uploads a .flv then when exported that .flv will be part of that export and imported into moodle as part of the scorm import. However if the author uses a link to an online .flv rather than importing then that link will still be just a link when exported as scorm and imported into moodle. If your streaming server doesn't provide links to .flv then perhaps try the embed content page which will take a link or embed code from any content that will play in a normal browser window. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Highfield, Michael Sent: 27 February 2012 11:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we?d prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they?ve loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I?d greatly appreciate your views. Kind regards Mike Highfield Team Leader: University of Exeter Online Learning Academic Services (Education Enhancement) Room 710, Laver Building North Park Road Streatham Campus Exeter University EX4 4QE ( Tel: 01392 725724/ Internal 5724 * m.c.highfield at exeter.ac.uk ? http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mikehighfield Disclaimer: http://as.exeter.ac.uk/divisions/ee/emaildisclaimer/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 11:40:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:40:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <011201ccf544$1c549bf0$54fdd3d0$@co.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <011201ccf544$1c549bf0$54fdd3d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0DC1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If it were me, I think I'd try having the users upload video into the streaming server where they can get some embed code, and then using that in the project to include the video. I'm just a bit unsure what you mean by "so we'd prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server". You can hack the code to include links to the streaming server upload functionality, or even have toolkits act as the middleman for you - but that is going to take a skilled developer to work it through. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 27 February 2012 11:37 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation If an LO author uses the Insert > Media > Video page and browses to and uploads a .flv then when exported that .flv will be part of that export and imported into moodle as part of the scorm import. However if the author uses a link to an online .flv rather than importing then that link will still be just a link when exported as scorm and imported into moodle. If your streaming server doesn't provide links to .flv then perhaps try the embed content page which will take a link or embed code from any content that will play in a normal browser window. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Highfield, Michael Sent: 27 February 2012 11:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we'd prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they've loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I'd greatly appreciate your views. Kind regards Mike Highfield Team Leader: University of Exeter Online Learning Academic Services (Education Enhancement) Room 710, Laver Building North Park Road Streatham Campus Exeter University EX4 4QE * Tel: 01392 725724/ Internal 5724 * m.c.highfield at exeter.ac.uk ? http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mikehighfield Disclaimer: http://as.exeter.ac.uk/divisions/ee/emaildisclaimer/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 27 February 2012 11:37 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation If an LO author uses the Insert > Media > Video page and browses to and uploads a .flv then when exported that .flv will be part of that export and imported into moodle as part of the scorm import. However if the author uses a link to an online .flv rather than importing then that link will still be just a link when exported as scorm and imported into moodle. If your streaming server doesn't provide links to .flv then perhaps try the embed content page which will take a link or embed code from any content that will play in a normal browser window. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Highfield, Michael Sent: 27 February 2012 11:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we?d prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they?ve loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I?d greatly appreciate your views. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 27 February 2012 11:37 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation If an LO author uses the Insert > Media > Video page and browses to and uploads a .flv then when exported that .flv will be part of that export and imported into moodle as part of the scorm import. However if the author uses a link to an online .flv rather than importing then that link will still be just a link when exported as scorm and imported into moodle. If your streaming server doesn't provide links to .flv then perhaps try the embed content page which will take a link or embed code from any content that will play in a normal browser window. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Highfield, Michael Sent: 27 February 2012 11:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation We are about to purchase a server to host our own instance of XERTE. However, we have a query with regard to video components that are embedded within a XERTE SCORM package. We want to avoid our academic staff zipping up big videos and then loading them into our Moodle based VLE, so we'd prefer to keep the video content on the XERTE server which will be linked to a streaming video server. Effectively, when a user exports a package from our XERTE server, they will be exporting a link to the streaming sever even though the user will think they've loaded it into their XERTE package. Does this make sense? We are currently finalising hardware and support purchases and this query is pivotal to our strategy. I'd greatly appreciate your views. Kind regards Mike Highfield Team Leader: University of Exeter Online Learning Academic Services (Education Enhancement) Room 710, Laver Building North Park Road Streatham Campus Exeter University EX4 4QE * Tel: 01392 725724/ Internal 5724 * m.c.highfield at exeter.ac.uk ? http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mikehighfield Disclaimer: http://as.exeter.ac.uk/divisions/ee/emaildisclaimer/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 11:44:54 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:44:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. Thanks again! _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation Looks like an install was moved? Open database.php and see what username and password are used. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thanks Pat. > > Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: > "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > index.php deleted? > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Hi >> >> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >> >> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >> folders on the server. See attached image. >> >> How do I fix this? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 11:59:52 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:59:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Use management.php Or set it directly in the sitedetails table On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) > > Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... > Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. > > Thanks again! > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Looks like an install was moved? > > Open database.php and see what username and password are used. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Thanks Pat. >> >> Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: >> "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation >> >> index.php deleted? >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >>> >>> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >>> folders on the server. See attached image. >>> >>> How do I fix this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >>> University of the West of England >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >>> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >>> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 27 12:07:40 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Works a treat.Excellent! From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:05:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value The {} should work now: can you test it please. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 24 February 2012 21:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value The {} don?t seem to work, Eval doesn?t force the value either. Using a script in a previous icon I?m sure would work but would mean a lot of coding and extra icons. Any other creative way come to mind that I might be able to force this sound icon ?play? property to evaluate to 1 or 0 from afar, globally perhaps? Any kind a big hammer that I could try whacking this thing with? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = ?1?;} else {icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = ?0?;} A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I?m holding this in the ?trackingData? array, however this seems to be a field that can?t interpret the array value. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 11980 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 12:13:02 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:13:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923FCF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> I found the answer to my own question: "Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc." For the benefit of others on this list who might have the same question, in a web browser go to the login area for site administration: (your installation URL)/management.php and log in as an administrator. You can change the welcome message etc. there. Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 27 February 2012 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. Thanks again! _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation Looks like an install was moved? Open database.php and see what username and password are used. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thanks Pat. > > Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: > "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > index.php deleted? > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Hi >> >> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >> >> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >> folders on the server. See attached image. >> >> How do I fix this? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 12:13:47 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:13:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923FD2@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Just worked it out for myself. Thanks Pat. Your help is greatly appreciated! Cheers Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 12:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation Use management.php Or set it directly in the sitedetails table On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were > missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) > > Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... > Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. > > Thanks again! > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Looks like an install was moved? > > Open database.php and see what username and password are used. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Thanks Pat. >> >> Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: >> "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation >> >> index.php deleted? >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >>> >>> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >>> folders on the server. See attached image. >>> >>> How do I fix this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >>> University of the West of England >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From phsmith at rossvet.edu.kn Mon Feb 27 12:35:08 2012 From: phsmith at rossvet.edu.kn (Smith, Philip) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:35:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and FLV Message-ID: Hello Folks, Is there specific web server requirements for playing flv files within learning objects? We're planning on doing a pilot scheme with xerte, with the learning objects being published through the eCollege LMS. FLV is a streaming format, and I'm not familiar with multimedia requirements, can any web server support this or should we be looking at a separate media server to host the video? Regards, Phil Smith From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 12:37:06 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:37:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and FLV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0E2B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Anything will cope, but a streaming server will do true streaming. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Philip Sent: 27 February 2012 12:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and FLV Hello Folks, Is there specific web server requirements for playing flv files within learning objects? We're planning on doing a pilot scheme with xerte, with the learning objects being published through the eCollege LMS. FLV is a streaming format, and I'm not familiar with multimedia requirements, can any web server support this or should we be looking at a separate media server to host the video? Regards, Phil Smith _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 12:37:24 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:37:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0E2C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> These are easy to add if you spot any other places. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2012 12:08 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Works a treat. Excellent! ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:05:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value The {} should work now: can you test it please. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 24 February 2012 21:02 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value The {} don't seem to work, Eval doesn't force the value either. Using a script in a previous icon I'm sure would work but would mean a lot of coding and extra icons. Any other creative way come to mind that I might be able to force this sound icon 'play' property to evaluate to 1 or 0 from afar, globally perhaps? Any kind a big hammer that I could try whacking this thing with? RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: xerte - sound icon - play property - using an array value Did you try the expression in {}s? Otherwise, you can set the value of the attribute using some script: in a script immediately before the sound icon do If (someCOndition == true){ icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '1'; } else { icon.nextSibling.attributes.play = '0'; } [cid:image001.png at 01CCF54C.8E4E7D90] A checkbox on the main menu lets the user set the sound to play on entering each page (Play = 1). I'm holding this in the 'trackingData' array, however this seems to be a field that can't interpret the array value. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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If there are no other suggestions, I guess I'll go with keeping the desktop version since I'm informed that all the individual page templates will be accessible in the desktop editor with the next update. Thanks to those who tried to help. Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:52 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems hello c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ is equivalent to http://localhost/toolkit/ so rename c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ to c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ And try again Pat On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Stephanie Carey wrote: > I am on a PC and have installed Xampp, turned on both Apache and MySqyl. I have extracted the toolkits into c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > When I get to the step in the installation guide about "Then start a web browser, and then visit this address > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/" > > Error: > > Object not found! > > The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > Error 404 > > localhost > 02/24/12 14:05:32 > Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 > > Thanks! > > > Stephanie J. Carey > Technology Teacher > Portsmouth Elementary School > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford [thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:29 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems > > Hi Stephanie, > > If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop is > locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that will run > on a USB stick from > > http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip > > you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: > > http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx > > The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On a > Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be available from > the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a number of new templates > as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > _____________________________________________ > Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com > Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ > Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Mob: 07500 669 002 > Fax: 01223 563142 > Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this > e-mail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 27 14:26:22 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:26:22 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , Message-ID: <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> Have you tried the MAXOS suggestion from Thomas? You don't really need to install that just unzip to the root of a USB stick or HDD and run from there. However if you previously installed Xampp and ticked the boxes to run as a service you may need to uninstall that first. Also before trying to use a local install of Xampp or MAXOS if you have skype running exit that completely before trying Xampp or Maxos. You can restart skype once xampp is running. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carey Sent: 27 February 2012 14:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems I have tried everything suggested by the group and am still unable to install. If there are no other suggestions, I guess I'll go with keeping the desktop version since I'm informed that all the individual page templates will be accessible in the desktop editor with the next update. Thanks to those who tried to help. Stephanie J. Carey Technology Teacher Portsmouth Elementary School ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:52 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems hello c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ is equivalent to http://localhost/toolkit/ so rename c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ to c:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\ And try again Pat On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Stephanie Carey wrote: > I am on a PC and have installed Xampp, turned on both Apache and > MySqyl. I have extracted the toolkits into c:\xampp\htdocs\toolkit\ > > When I get to the step in the installation guide about "Then start a > web browser, and then visit this address http://localhost/xertetoolkits/setup/" > > Error: > > Object not found! > > The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > Error 404 > > localhost > 02/24/12 14:05:32 > Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 > mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 > > Thanks! > > > Stephanie J. Carey > Technology Teacher > Portsmouth Elementary School > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Rochford > [thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:29 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Standalone Install Problems > > Hi Stephanie, > > If you cannot resolve your problems easily (e.g. because your laptop > is locked down by your Institution), you can download a version that > will run on a USB stick from > > http://rscmoodle.jisc.ac.uk/file.php/1/maxos/maxos_152.zip > > you will find instructions for unzipping this and getting it running at: > > http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern/how-we-support-you/portable-apps.aspx > > The current version is called MAXOS 152 (MAXOS = 'Moodle and Xerte On > a Stick'). MAXOS 170 is currently in Beta and will hopefully be > available from the same URL around Easter Time. This will include a > number of new templates as well as Moodle 2.2.1 and the latest version of Mahara. > > Kindest Regards, > Thomas > _____________________________________________ > Eml: thomas.rochford at cambridge-serendipity.com > Web: http://www.cambridge-serendipity.com/ > Skype: cambridge.serendipity > Mob: 07500 669 002 > Fax: 01223 563142 > Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing > this e-mail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 15:16:32 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:16:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] feedback form on logged in page In-Reply-To: <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF941E@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> How do I get the feedback form on the logged in page to work? I've put my email address in management.php under 'Site settings (HTML / Images)' where it says: "The site's feedback list is (A semi-colon separated list of email addresses to receive feedback from the feedback page)" And I've put my email address in management.php under 'Email' where it says: "The site email account is" But I still don't get anything when I test the form. Any suggestions? Thanks Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 16:08:06 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:08:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Templates question In-Reply-To: <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Are there more (project? LO?) templates available? If so, where can I find them? We currently have 4 templates in our XOT installation: 'Xerte Online Toolkit', 'Media Interactions', 'Multiple Perspectives' and 'RSS Feed'. The first template ('Xerte Online Toolkits') appears to include all of the page types/templates that are found in the others. If more templates aren't available anywhere, what is the reason for having the four we currently have when we could just have the one ('Xerte Online Toolkit') that includes all the different page types? Can anyone explain or point me to where I can find out more? Apologies if this is a rather basic question (I'm still fairly new to Xerte) but I can't seem to find an answer in the archives. Thanks in advance Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 16:25:51 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:25:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: feedback form on logged in page In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF941E@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF941E@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: is your site set up to send email? php email functions can be turned off On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > How do I get the feedback form on the logged in page to work? > > I've put my email address in management.php under 'Site settings (HTML / Images)' where it says: > "The site's feedback list is (A semi-colon separated list of email addresses to receive feedback from the feedback page)" > > And I've put my email address in management.php under 'Email' where it says: > "The site email account is" > > But I still don't get anything when I test the form. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Oli > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Feb 27 16:30:43 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:30:43 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Templates question In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <022901ccf56d$28be43e0$7a3acba0$@co.uk> my responses below... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 27 February 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Templates question Are there more (project? LO?) templates available? If so, where can I find them? Not really, not for XOT, not yet. We currently have 4 templates in our XOT installation: 'Xerte Online Toolkit', 'Media Interactions', 'Multiple Perspectives' and 'RSS Feed'. The first template ('Xerte Online Toolkits') appears to include all of the page types/templates that are found in the others. Although some of the functionality from those separate project templates has been merged into the main XOT template e.g. multiple perspectives they haven't all been merged in and media interactions and RSS are different project templates e.g. the RSS project template is for creating RSS feeds rather than including RSS feeds that you will find in the main template. In short these are the main 4 project templates and to maintain backwards compatibility are likely to remain in place even if replicated in the main XOT template. If more templates aren't available anywhere, what is the reason for having the four we currently have when we could just have the one ('Xerte Online Toolkit') that includes all the different page types? Can anyone explain or point me to where I can find out more? Apologies if this is a rather basic question (I'm still fairly new to Xerte) but I can't seem to find an answer in the archives. Thanks in advance Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 16:52:14 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:52:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Templates question In-Reply-To: <022901ccf56d$28be43e0$7a3acba0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <022901ccf56d$28be43e0$7a3acba0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF9529@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks Ron. It's much clearer now. Cheers Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 27 February 2012 16:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Templates question my responses below... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 27 February 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Templates question Are there more (project? LO?) templates available? If so, where can I find them? Not really, not for XOT, not yet. We currently have 4 templates in our XOT installation: 'Xerte Online Toolkit', 'Media Interactions', 'Multiple Perspectives' and 'RSS Feed'. The first template ('Xerte Online Toolkits') appears to include all of the page types/templates that are found in the others. Although some of the functionality from those separate project templates has been merged into the main XOT template e.g. multiple perspectives they haven't all been merged in and media interactions and RSS are different project templates e.g. the RSS project template is for creating RSS feeds rather than including RSS feeds that you will find in the main template. In short these are the main 4 project templates and to maintain backwards compatibility are likely to remain in place even if replicated in the main XOT template. If more templates aren't available anywhere, what is the reason for having the four we currently have when we could just have the one ('Xerte Online Toolkit') that includes all the different page types? Can anyone explain or point me to where I can find out more? Apologies if this is a rather basic question (I'm still fairly new to Xerte) but I can't seem to find an answer in the archives. Thanks in advance Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 16:55:42 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:55:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: feedback form on logged in page In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF941E@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF9531@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks for your reply, Pat. Where would I check this? _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 16:26 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: feedback form on logged in page is your site set up to send email? php email functions can be turned off On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > How do I get the feedback form on the logged in page to work? > > I've put my email address in management.php under 'Site settings (HTML / Images)' where it says: > "The site's feedback list is (A semi-colon separated list of email addresses to receive feedback from the feedback page)" > > And I've put my email address in management.php under 'Email' where it says: > "The site email account is" > > But I still don't get anything when I test the form. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Oli > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 17:06:07 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:06:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF954C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> How do I deny browser access to ourURL.ac.uk/setup I think it was clicking one of the buttons found here that caused all the problems I had this morning. I'm aware that anyone else who goes here could mess things up all over again. The folder looks like it has lots of important files in it so presumably I shouldn't just delete it on the server. Thanks Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 27 February 2012 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. Thanks again! _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation Looks like an install was moved? Open database.php and see what username and password are used. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: > Thanks Pat. > > Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: > "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > index.php deleted? > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Hi >> >> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >> >> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >> folders on the server. See attached image. >> >> How do I fix this? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Oli >> >> >> >> _______________________________ >> >> >> >> Oliver Haslam >> >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> >> University of the West of England >> >> _______________________________ >> >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained >> in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions >> expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 17:07:45 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:07:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF954C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF954C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: Delete it, site doesn't need it On 27 Feb 2012, at 17:06, Oliver Haslam wrote: > How do I deny browser access to ourURL.ac.uk/setup > > I think it was clicking one of the buttons found here that caused all the problems I had this morning. I'm aware that anyone else who goes here could mess things up all over again. > > The folder looks like it has lots of important files in it so presumably I shouldn't just delete it on the server. > > Thanks > > Oli > > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) > > Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... > Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. > > Thanks again! > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Looks like an install was moved? > > Open database.php and see what username and password are used. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Thanks Pat. >> >> Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: >> "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation >> >> index.php deleted? >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >>> >>> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >>> folders on the server. See attached image. >>> >>> How do I fix this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >>> University of the West of England >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 17:34:48 2012 From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk (Oliver Haslam) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:34:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation In-Reply-To: References: <001201ccf2b2$6d6b49b0$4841dd10$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0666@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001e01ccf337$862d2c40$928784c0$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B8B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EA7@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923EEF@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6923F58@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF954C@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF9579@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Thanks Pat _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 27 February 2012 17:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation Delete it, site doesn't need it On 27 Feb 2012, at 17:06, Oliver Haslam wrote: > How do I deny browser access to ourURL.ac.uk/setup > > I think it was clicking one of the buttons found here that caused all the problems I had this morning. I'm aware that anyone else who goes here could mess things up all over again. > > The folder looks like it has lots of important files in it so presumably I shouldn't just delete it on the server. > > Thanks > > Oli > > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver > Haslam > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: [spam] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Thank you so much Pat! The DB name, password and username were > missing. I (you) have now got it working again :) > > Now, I'd like to do what I was trying to do before I broke it... > Where do I change the site title, site name, welcome message and site text? i.e. "Welcome to Xerte online toolkits" and "Welcome to the toolkits front page, developed by the University of Nottingham" on the home page etc. > > Thanks again! > > _______________________________ > > Oliver Haslam > Course Developer (Technologist) > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions > > Technology Enhanced Learning > University of the West of England > _______________________________ > T: 0117 32 88215 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 27 February 2012 11:17 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [spam] [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation > > Looks like an install was moved? > > Open database.php and see what username and password are used. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >> Thanks Pat. >> >> Yes, index.php was missing. I've replaced it with a copy from a backup but now get this message: >> "Sorry, the system cannot connect to the database at present. The mysql error is Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" >> >> _______________________________ >> >> Oliver Haslam >> Course Developer (Technologist) >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >> >> Technology Enhanced Learning >> University of the West of England >> _______________________________ >> T: 0117 32 88215 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 27 February 2012 10:56 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: problem with XOT installation >> >> index.php deleted? >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Haslam wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I seem to have upset our installation of XOT! >>> >>> When I look in a browser I just get a list of all the files and >>> folders on the server. See attached image. >>> >>> How do I fix this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >>> >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Oliver Haslam >>> >>> Course Developer (Technologist) >>> >>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions >>> >>> >>> >>> Technology Enhanced Learning >>> >>> University of the West of England >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> T: 0117 32 88215 >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications >>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Mon Feb 27 19:33:40 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:33:40 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B76@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B76@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00cc01ccf586$b68739c0$2395ad40$@kccsoft.com> Does the diagram below make any sense? I am navigating to FW (Overview - FW1) inside a FW (Part 1 Container) from a Flash menu. The entry pane in 'Overview' 'FW' is executing more than one. If you navigate directly to 'Overview' icon the entry pane will execute twice. By navigating instead to the page 'Acoustic Neuromas' and letting it flow down FW1 entry pane correctly executes once only. However, on navigating directly from the Flash menu to any subsequent pages lower down (like FW2 'What is an Acoustic Neuroma') the FW1 entry pane Executes once, then the FW entry pane executes. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:37 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? When do you see the debug messages? Navigate will find its way right through from the top level framework. so, yes, the FW_ENT will be re-entered From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 26 February 2012 12:00 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] navigate bug? Scene: Button inside entrypane attached to IFC. rootIcon.navigate('target'); //debug in here executes twice //id='target' This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 36140 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 28 09:39:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:39:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Templates question In-Reply-To: <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com> , <01ef01ccf55b$c9f35be0$5dda13a0$@co.uk> <31CDB875D4C8E948899F952DE8C500C827B6CF94B1@EGEN-MBX02.campus.ads.uwe.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC11D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In the beginning, we iamgeined lots of different templates doing different things, but things have moved towards one uber-template, the Xerte Online Toolkit. That now contains all the page templates from media interactions, which is now deprecated (although left in place to support existing projects), and we would encourage all new projects to be made with the toolkit. Xerte Online Toolkit and RSS are the two templates we will distribute. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam Sent: 27 February 2012 16:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Templates question Are there more (project? LO?) templates available? If so, where can I find them? We currently have 4 templates in our XOT installation: 'Xerte Online Toolkit', 'Media Interactions', 'Multiple Perspectives' and 'RSS Feed'. The first template ('Xerte Online Toolkits') appears to include all of the page types/templates that are found in the others. If more templates aren't available anywhere, what is the reason for having the four we currently have when we could just have the one ('Xerte Online Toolkit') that includes all the different page types? Can anyone explain or point me to where I can find out more? Apologies if this is a rather basic question (I'm still fairly new to Xerte) but I can't seem to find an answer in the archives. Thanks in advance Oli _______________________________ Oliver Haslam Course Developer (Technologist) Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions Technology Enhanced Learning University of the West of England _______________________________ T: 0117 32 88215 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Tue Feb 28 16:34:04 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) Message-ID: <4F4D01FC.3010708@bath.ac.uk> Hi all, bit of a strange one this. We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see attached). Any idea what this could be? cheers Julian ----------------------------------- Julian Prior e-Learning Technologist Learning and Teaching Enhancement Office Wessex House 5.27 University of Bath Claverton Campus BATH BA2 7AY Tel: 01225383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Skype: joolsyp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see attached). Any idea what this could be? cheers Julian ----------------------------------- Julian Prior e-Learning Technologist Learning and Teaching Enhancement Office Wessex House 5.27 University of Bath Claverton Campus BATH BA2 7AY Tel: 01225383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Skype: joolsyp This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org Tue Feb 28 21:52:42 2012 From: jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org (Bardell Jason) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:52:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] XOT Message-ID: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> Hello We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! Regards Jason Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 ____________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: http://www.kent.fire-uk.org Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other lawful purpose. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Doc1.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 116310 bytes Desc: Doc1.docx URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Feb 28 22:18:55 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:18:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> Message-ID: <47F62B1C-73A2-4DB5-BA3C-E763684732BC@googlemail.com> Hi Jason, It's great to see the The fire service using XOT. I can only comment on the second point directly. When a shared project is edited, it creates a file on the system to stop someone else editing it. The editor window closing should delete this file. Sadly like on say Facebook, a user's session can expire and then the system can't delete the file. Whenever we tested it, it worked, but this problem came up so we made the change to warn people - it used to stop people completely. Without some cunning idea code wise to stop it, it's a headache but it's probably the safest option - two people editing at once could corrupt a file. I know it's not the best answer, but will start off a chat on the developer list to see what comes up. Pat On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:52, Bardell Jason wrote: > Hello > > We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? > > Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? > > Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? > > Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. > > It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. > > It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! > > Regards > > Jason > > Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. > > For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: http://www.kent.fire-uk.org > > Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other lawful purpose. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Tue Feb 28 22:42:27 2012 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:42:27 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: <47F62B1C-73A2-4DB5-BA3C-E763684732BC@googlemail.com> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> <47F62B1C-73A2-4DB5-BA3C-E763684732BC@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Pat, How about a table in MySQL that stores the open LO file name and a session cookie file name (session cookie could store name of person editing the LO) when it is opened/created. Then when someone else attempts to open the LO, check the db for the session cookie name and see if the cookie still exists? Deny access if the cookie still exists. Garbage collection should handle deleting the cookie if the person closes browser without logging out. Is that idea cunning enough? Paul -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Hi Jason, It's great to see the The fire service using XOT. I can only comment on the second point directly. When a shared project is edited, it creates a file on the system to stop someone else editing it. The editor window closing should delete this file. Sadly like on say Facebook, a user's session can expire and then the system can't delete the file. Whenever we tested it, it worked, but this problem came up so we made the change to warn people - it used to stop people completely. Without some cunning idea code wise to stop it, it's a headache but it's probably the safest option - two people editing at once could corrupt a file. I know it's not the best answer, but will start off a chat on the developer list to see what comes up. Pat On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:52, Bardell Jason wrote: > Hello > > We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? > > Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? > > Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? > > Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. > > It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. > > It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! > > Regards > > Jason > > Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. > > For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: http://www.kent.fire-uk.org > > Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other lawful purpose. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Tue Feb 28 22:51:40 2012 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> Message-ID: Hi Jason I have a suggestion on the third point (timeline/matching pairs). I have found that when the labels have too much text in them they can behave in an unpredictable manner - particularly if they overlap onto the "stage" area where they are being dragged to. My workaround has been to ensure that text-light parts of matching pair go to the label and text ends parts go to the target drop zone. In the example you gave, if the labels were "Push style, Pull style ..etc" you might get more reliable result? Alistair -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 28 February 2012 21:53 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] XOT Hello We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! Regards Jason Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 ____________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. 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We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Feb 28 22:52:59 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:52:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2D81@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> <47F62B1C-73A2-4DB5-BA3C-E763684732BC@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <16E2047B-DB10-45B8-ABC8-D0B8943EB460@googlemail.com> I rewrote XOT to allow for sessions in the database, but php 4 at nottingham supported database sessions but php 5 didn't and I couldn't find out why (it was 1 day before I left). In theory using the sessions table would reduce the possibility of the session expiring, and tying in the session deleting to lockfile deleting is neat. But ideally the window closing should remove the file. Maybe some sort of XOT_Cron could be triggered by hitting config.php Feels like a rewrite...... On 28 Feb 2012, at 22:42, Paul Swanson wrote: > Pat, > > How about a table in MySQL that stores the open LO file name and a > session cookie file name (session cookie could store name of person > editing the LO) when it is opened/created. Then when someone else > attempts to open the LO, check the db for the session cookie name and > see if the cookie still exists? Deny access if the cookie still exists. > Garbage collection should handle deleting the cookie if the person > closes browser without logging out. Is that idea cunning enough? > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:19 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT > > Hi Jason, > > It's great to see the The fire service using XOT. > > I can only comment on the second point directly. > > When a shared project is edited, it creates a file on the system to stop > someone else editing it. The editor window closing should delete this > file. Sadly like on say Facebook, a user's session can expire and then > the system can't delete the file. > > Whenever we tested it, it worked, but this problem came up so we made > the change to warn people - it used to stop people completely. > > Without some cunning idea code wise to stop it, it's a headache but it's > probably the safest option - two people editing at once could corrupt a > file. > > I know it's not the best answer, but will start off a chat on the > developer list to see what comes up. > > Pat > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:52, Bardell Jason > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few > quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me > in the right direction to sort them out? >> >> Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found > that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should > allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by > the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO > turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 > videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix > this please? >> >> Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to > edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something > similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you > continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number > of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls > that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is > there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to > close them down? >> >> Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where > the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The > example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop > options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, > and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you > that captures this. >> >> It is worth adding that although I have full administrative > privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to > explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have > for this. >> >> It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are > enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such > a great and useful tool! >> >> Regards >> >> Jason >> >> Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent > Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________ >> This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. >> >> For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: > http://www.kent.fire-uk.org >> >> Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to > analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information > Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency > telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems > from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other > lawful purpose. >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 29 07:30:25 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:30:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) In-Reply-To: References: <4F4D01FC.3010708@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA38BC8B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is the xml in the learning object still OK? Sounds like either the xwd or the xml is broken. Can you play the pieces OK on their URLs? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2012 19:11 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in the panels below. Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? Dave ________________________________ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:34:04 +0000 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) Hi all, bit of a strange one this. We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see attached). Any idea what this could be? cheers Julian ----------------------------------- Julian Prior e-Learning Technologist Learning and Teaching Enhancement Office Wessex House 5.27 University of Bath Claverton Campus BATH BA2 7AY Tel: 01225383864 Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Twitter: @jpodcaster Skype: joolsyp This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Wed Feb 29 10:06:38 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:06:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) In-Reply-To: References: <4F4D01FC.3010708@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F4DF8AE.3050909@bath.ac.uk> Hi Dave/Julian, The exact sequence is that Sue logs in ok at our installation URL (http://multimedia.bath.ac.uk/xerte/) and sees all of her previously created projects. She can edit and play her existing projects fine, no problems. If she tries to create a new project from the XOT template, however, she cannot Insert new pages (or delete the object as Dave pointed out). If she tries to play the object it doesn't generate (see attached screenshots). We have tested this across OS's and browsers and Sue is getting the same issue. It only affects her, i.e our other Xerte users don't have this problem. cheers Julian P > Dave Burnett > 28 February 2012 19:11 > Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in > the panels below. > > Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 28 February 2012 16:34 > Hi all, bit of a strange one this. > > We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in > XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are > presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been > re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our > installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. > She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new > page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see > attached). > > Any idea what this could be? > > cheers > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Are projects getting created in there? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Prior Sent: 29 February 2012 10:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) Hi Dave/Julian, The exact sequence is that Sue logs in ok at our installation URL (http://multimedia.bath.ac.uk/xerte/) and sees all of her previously created projects. She can edit and play her existing projects fine, no problems. If she tries to create a new project from the XOT template, however, she cannot Insert new pages (or delete the object as Dave pointed out). If she tries to play the object it doesn't generate (see attached screenshots). We have tested this across OS's and browsers and Sue is getting the same issue. It only affects her, i.e our other Xerte users don't have this problem. cheers Julian P [cid:image001.jpg at 01CCF6CA.2E8449B0] Dave Burnett 28 February 2012 19:11 Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in the panels below. Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? Dave _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. [cid:image002.jpg at 01CCF6CA.2E8449B0] Julian Prior 28 February 2012 16:34 Hi all, bit of a strange one this. We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see attached). 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1180 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Feb 29 10:12:48 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:12:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) In-Reply-To: <4F4DF8AE.3050909@bath.ac.uk> References: <4F4D01FC.3010708@bath.ac.uk> <4F4DF8AE.3050909@bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: given the ldap comment has her username / login changed? It seems likely that fiddler will show the XML or XWD path failing. I would check in USER-FILES to see if the folder is there. Sounds like it won't be. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Julian Prior wrote: > Hi Dave/Julian, > > The exact sequence is that Sue logs in ok at our installation URL ( > http://multimedia.bath.ac.uk/xerte/) and sees all of her previously > created projects. She can edit and play her existing projects fine, no > problems. If she tries to create a new project from the XOT template, > however, she cannot Insert new pages (or delete the object as Dave pointed > out). If she tries to play the object it doesn't generate (see attached > screenshots). > > We have tested this across OS's and browsers and Sue is getting the same > issue. It only affects her, i.e our other Xerte users don't have this > problem. > > cheers > > Julian P > > > > Dave Burnett > 28 February 2012 19:11 > Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in the > panels below. > > Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 28 February 2012 16:34 > Hi all, bit of a strange one this. > > We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in XOT > for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are presuming her > ldap account details were disabled but have now been re-enabled as she is > now back working for us. She can login to our installation fine and can see > all of her Xerte material from before. She can create a new template fine > but when she goes to insert a new page type she cannot as the green > 'Insert' button is greyed out (see attached). > > Any idea what this could be? > > cheers > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- > ----------------------------------- > > Julian Prior > e-Learning Technologist > > Learning and Teaching Enhancement Office > Wessex House 5.27 > University of Bath > Claverton Campus > BATH > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Skype: joolsyp > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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Name: compose-unknown-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 770 bytes Desc: not available URL: From j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk Wed Feb 29 10:34:07 2012 From: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk (Julian Prior) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:34:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert button greyed out) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4093D79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F4D01FC.3010708@bath.ac.uk> <4F4DF8AE.3050909@bath.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA4093D79@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F4DFF1F.90506@bath.ac.uk> Hi Julian/Pat, Yes, she can make changes to and save her existing projects. I'll get our developer to have a look at USER_FILES and get back to you. many thanks Julian P > Julian Tenney > 29 February 2012 10:09 > > This sounds like rights for the user on the server. > > She can make changes to, and save her existing projects? > > Can you see the USER_FILES folder? Are projects getting created in there? > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Prior > *Sent:* 29 February 2012 10:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte user cannot insert new page (Insert > button greyed out) > > Hi Dave/Julian, > > The exact sequence is that Sue logs in ok at our installation URL > (http://multimedia.bath.ac.uk/xerte/) and sees all of her previously > created projects. She can edit and play her existing projects fine, no > problems. If she tries to create a new project from the XOT template, > however, she cannot Insert new pages (or delete the object as Dave > pointed out). If she tries to play the object it doesn't generate (see > attached screenshots). > > We have tested this across OS's and browsers and Sue is getting the > same issue. It only affects her, i.e our other Xerte users don't have > this problem. > > cheers > > Julian P > > > > > *Dave Burnett* > > 28 February 2012 19:11 > > Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in > the panels below. > > Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > *Julian Prior* > > 28 February 2012 16:34 > > Hi all, bit of a strange one this. > > We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in > XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are > presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been > re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our > installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. > She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new > page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see > attached). > > Any idea what this could be? > > cheers > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > ----------------------------------- > > *Julian Prior* > e-Learning Technologist > > Learning and Teaching Enhancement Office > Wessex House 5.27 > University of Bath > Claverton Campus > BATH > BA2 7AY > > Tel: 01225383864 > Email: j.prior2 at bath.ac.uk > Twitter: @jpodcaster > Skype: joolsyp > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 29 February 2012 10:06 > Hi Dave/Julian, > > The exact sequence is that Sue logs in ok at our installation URL > (http://multimedia.bath.ac.uk/xerte/) and sees all of her previously > created projects. She can edit and play her existing projects fine, no > problems. If she tries to create a new project from the XOT template, > however, she cannot Insert new pages (or delete the object as Dave > pointed out). If she tries to play the object it doesn't generate (see > attached screenshots). > > We have tested this across OS's and browsers and Sue is getting the > same issue. It only affects her, i.e our other Xerte users don't have > this problem. > > cheers > > Julian P > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Dave Burnett > 28 February 2012 19:11 > Delete appears similarly greyed out, and I do not see any Objects in > the panels below. > > Can you give the exact sequence to get to this point? > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > Julian Prior > 28 February 2012 16:34 > Hi all, bit of a strange one this. > > We have a staff member at Bath who created a bunch of Xerte content in > XOT for us and then left to work elsewhere temporarily. We are > presuming her ldap account details were disabled but have now been > re-enabled as she is now back working for us. She can login to our > installation fine and can see all of her Xerte material from before. > She can create a new template fine but when she goes to insert a new > page type she cannot as the green 'Insert' button is greyed out (see > attached). > > Any idea what this could be? > > cheers > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 28 February 2012 21:53 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] XOT Hello We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! Regards Jason Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 ____________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: http://www.kent.fire-uk.org Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other lawful purpose. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: perspectives.rlm Type: application/octet-stream Size: 16037 bytes Desc: perspectives.rlm URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Wed Feb 29 18:08:53 2012 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:08:53 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <017701ccf319$e6d3e480$b47bad80$@cambridge-serendipity.com>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2FC0B76@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <00cc01ccf586$b68739c0$2395ad40$@kccsoft.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA2B08AFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a601ccf70d$32b15620$98140260$@kccsoft.com> Thanks for this info and the change to the sound 'play' field! Appreciated.. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:53 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? code runs and graphics get drawn. In that order. navigate() was added to support SHIFT-F5 at design time, I have never used it to drive a piece. It just figures out where in the piece you want to go, and gets you there Bangkok rickshaw style. The reason is that to get to where you want to go, the engine needs to set up everything in the hierarchy above that point. It does this the way it normally does it, and the normal things are happening, just very quickly. The example from earlier was a FW icon whose first page was executing twice after navigate()ing to it. The code was saying "goto to this framework and initialise it, then go to page one of that framework, and if there are any frameworks in that page goto the first framework, and initialise page one and...". The thing we found was that page one had already been executed by the framework initialising, hence things were happening twice - so we fixed that. _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com] Sent: 27 February 2012 19:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? Does the diagram below make any sense? I am navigating to FW (Overview - FW1) inside a FW (Part 1 Container) from a Flash menu. The entry pane in 'Overview' 'FW' is executing more than one. If you navigate directly to 'Overview' icon the entry pane will execute twice. By navigating instead to the page 'Acoustic Neuromas' and letting it flow down FW1 entry pane correctly executes once only. However, on navigating directly from the Flash menu to any subsequent pages lower down (like FW2 'What is an Acoustic Neuroma') the FW1 entry pane Executes once, then the FW entry pane executes. RonM2 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:37 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: navigate bug? When do you see the debug messages? Navigate will find its way right through from the top level framework. so, yes, the FW_ENT will be re-entered From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 26 February 2012 12:00 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] navigate bug? Scene: Button inside entrypane attached to IFC. rootIcon.navigate('target'); //debug in here executes twice //id='target' This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 36140 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org Wed Feb 29 20:33:50 2012 From: jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org (Bardell Jason) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:33:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2F22@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> Hi Fay Thank you for the fix, I'll give it a try. Thanks Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay Cross [mailto:Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:00 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Hi Jason, The bug in the multiple perspectives page was fixed a while ago. I've attached the amended file. Fay -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 28 February 2012 21:53 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] XOT Hello We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! Regards Jason Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 ____________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. 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From jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org Wed Feb 29 20:42:19 2012 From: jason.bardell at kent.fire-uk.org (Bardell Jason) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:42:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4CB7B46F7BEA0843BD441B9F832A23BC19AA2F3C@KFBMAIL01.kentfire.internal> Hi Alistair Thank you for the suggestion, I'll give it a try. Regards Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: Alistair McNaught [mailto:Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:51 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Hi Jason I have a suggestion on the third point (timeline/matching pairs). I have found that when the labels have too much text in them they can behave in an unpredictable manner - particularly if they overlap onto the "stage" area where they are being dragged to. My workaround has been to ensure that text-light parts of matching pair go to the label and text ends parts go to the target drop zone. In the example you gave, if the labels were "Push style, Pull style ..etc" you might get more reliable result? Alistair -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason Sent: 28 February 2012 21:53 To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] XOT Hello We are using XOT as part of a regional project, I have noticed a few quirks which you may already be aware of, if you are could you point me in the right direction to sort them out? Firstly when using the 'Multiple perspectives' slide, we have found that when you add videos of 7 or more you get a scroll arrow what should allow you to scroll to the videos that are there but can't be seen by the user, instead when the learner clicks on the scroll arrow the LO turns grey and nothing is viewable. We have restricted to loading only 5 videos to each slide as an interim measure but wondered how we could fix this please? Secondly on a couple of occasions when 2 people have shared LO's to edit and produce, they have been greeted with a page that says something similar to 'person 'x' (their username) is working on this LO, if you continue you could lose work(or similar)'. This has happened on a number of occasions and each time we have confirmed through telephone calls that the other person is not online & therefore not editing the LO. Is there something we should be specifically doing when sharing objects to close them down? Thirdly, when using timeline/matching pairs we have a 'glitch' where the 'green ticks' for the correct answers hasn't been correct. The example in question has four questions and four possible drag and drop options, twice we have had it that the learner has scored 3 out of 4, and not the true result of 4 out of 4, I attach a screen shot for you that captures this. It is worth adding that although I have full administrative privileges, I am by no means a technical whiz and you might need to explain a step by step process to get me though any answer you may have for this. It is also worth adding that XOT is a great authoring tool and we are enjoying creating LO's and getting learners involved. Thank you for such a great and useful tool! Regards Jason Jason Bardell | Station Manager | Organisational Development | Kent Fire & Rescue Service | T: 01622 692121 Extn 6183 | M: 07967332236 ____________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content. 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For more information about Kent Fire & Rescue Service visit: http://www.kent.fire-uk.org Kent Fire & Rescue Service logs, records and reserves the right to analyse and act upon activity and communication on its Information Systems (including external systems such as external e-mail, emergency telephony etc), to meet our statutory responsibilities, protect systems from abuse, secure the effective operation of systems and any other lawful purpose. From cprudhoe at musapp.com Wed Feb 29 21:49:43 2012 From: cprudhoe at musapp.com (Clarence Prudhoe) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Xerte] Linux Server Message-ID: <4F4E9D77.9080806@musapp.com> Hello, Hello, Will the Xerte Online Toolkit run on a Linux server? * Apache version 2.2.22 * PHP version 5.3.10 * MySQL version 5.1.56-log If it will, please send me the installation instructions. All I can find are instructions for a Win IIs server. 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