[Xerte] Re: Moodle filter

Tue Apr 24 09:52:34 BST 2012

Merci

(back to english)

Could you review the plugin on moodle for me - showing people using it
always helps.

Thanks

Pat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Franck Petit <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
> Hello Pat,
> Thank you so much for the Moodle filter! It works just fine! I translated it
> into French. I had to adapt one string because 'the base play url' is not
> translatable into French. I thus replaced it by something like 'the
> beginning of your LO's url'. If you change the strings in future versions,
> don't hesitate to ask for an updated translation.
> Cheers, Franck
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Pat Lockley
> Envoyé : samedi 21 avril 2012 19:19
> À : Xerte discussion list
> Objet : [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>
> https://github.com/patlockley/moodle-xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter
>
> updated to accept XOT[] and / or any URL (see config panel).
>
> Franck - je voudrais une version francais? M'aidez? Dans "lang"
> c'etait une livre "en" avec
> https://github.com/patlockley/moodle-xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter/blob/master/l
> ang/en/filter_xerteonlinetoolkits.php
>
> (bad french)
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Franck Petit <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
>> I know that I'm being greedy but I vote for the Mahara plugin too!!!
>> Franck
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Ron
>> Mitchell Envoyé : mardi 17 avril 2012 21:04 À : 'Xerte discussion
>> list'
>> Objet : [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>
>> yes sounds like a good combination.
>>
>> Mahara has plug-ins and filters and by default doesn't allow any old
>> iframe to be embedded without a dedicated filter or block type at
>> least not prior to 1.5. So in 1.3 and 1.4 it's not possible to embed
>> XOT LO's but in the new release of 1.5 there's a new safeIframe
>> feature where base url's can be added to a php script and then iframes
>> from those sites aren't stripped out by the html purifier.
>> http://manual.mahara.org/en/1.5_STABLE/site_admin/extensions.html
>>
>> But I suspect it will be a while before at least some organisations
>> upgrade so a 1.3/1.4 XOT filter/block type would still be popular.
>> http://htmlpurifier.org/docs/enduser-youtube.html
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 17 April 2012 17:20
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>
>> so XOT by default, and then base url if added - maybe use a *
>> afterwards to say convert?
>>
>> Mahara has plugins?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ron Mitchell
>> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Yes true and in fact what if someone wants the embedded iframe and
>>> below
>> that a link to open the LO in a new window which is what I usually
>> promote during training sessions. Without something unique like
>> XOT[url] presumably the current filter would try to turn that second link
> to an iframe too?
>>>
>>> But Franck's point is valid too - switching to html view to paste
>>> embed
>> code does cause problems for less IT confident students and staff.
>> However as I mentioned in a lot of places in Moodle, even the default
>> 800 x 600 dimensions cause problems either because the activity type
>> or the overall theme and block layouts etc.
>>>
>>> Perhaps if the filter looks for the base url if configured and/or
>>> XOT[url]
>> that sorts those options and a site wide admin option for dimensions
>> sorts the dimensions at least site wide and for more control the user
>> reverts to iframe etc.
>>>
>>> Mahara XOT filter next? ;-)
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 16:25
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>
>>> I can add parameters at the end but does that not defeat the point of
>>> the
>> filter? Surely it's easier pasting the iframe in?
>>>
>>> Then do I override if default set?
>>>
>>> I will have a look for filters that apply to certain areas but not
>>> sure if
>> it is possible - thats why I preferred the XOT[] approach as you had
>> to explicitly opt for it.
>>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 16:14, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it
>>>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>>>> Agreed ;-)
>>>>
>>>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>>>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and
>>>> resizes the video player
>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.
>>>> 2 F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>>>
>>>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>>>> sounds good.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 15:56
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>>
>>>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it
>>>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>>>> Agreed ;-)
>>>>
>>>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>>>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and
>>>> resizes the video player
>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.
>>>> 2 F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>>>
>>>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>>>> sounds good
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 14:30, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Pat
>>>>> just tried this and it does indeed replace the xerte LO link with
>>>>> iframe
>> code but a few issues/comments...
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I added an LO link as part of a moodle label so that it appears
>> within the course home page and at the moment there's a bit of an
>> issue! - it breaks the rest of the course page so that nothing else is
>> shown including the links and icons to be able to edit the label and
>> remove the link.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. For this to be useful in a production environment it really
>>>>> needs to
>> be able to take parameters for width and height as part of the link or
>> as part of the filter configuration. I know it's possible to edit
>> filter.php and change the dimensions there but that's less flexible
>> than having parameters or dimensions configurable via the admin
>> interface. Ideally both so that admin sets optimum dimensions for the
>> moodle site wide install/theme but if a link contains dimension
>> parameters these override the defaults. At the very least I'd suggest
>> the dimensions set in filter.php should be no more than 800 x 600 and
>> probably less - in my experience most topic areas in Moodle
>> installations are narrower than 800px. I know this mostly only applies to
> Lables but that's what a lot of people will use.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Having the base url is good but as use of XOT expands wouldn't
>>>>> that
>> limit potential sharing e.g. what about being able to embed
>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 in the same way? Perhaps
>> the filter could look for XOT[url] as well as the base url?
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>> Lockley
>>>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 13:00
>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>>>
>>>>> What does the iframe show as the src?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 12:08, "Franck Petit" <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Pat. It doesn't seem to work yet, unless I misunderstood
>>>>>> something. I updated the filter, modified the base url in the
>>>>>> settings as requested on the settings page by replacing the text
>>>>>> with the following
>>>>>> line: http://www.mydomain.eu/authoringtool/play.php?template_id=
>>>>>> (authoringtool is the name of the directory for my xot install)
>>>>>> Did I do something wrong?
>>>>>> Franck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Pat
>>>>>> Lockley Envoyé : mardi 17 avril 2012 12:13 À : Xerte discussion
>>>>>> list Objet : [Xerte] Moodle filter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updated it, try again please
>>>>>>
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