[Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates

Tue Jun 28 16:26:30 BST 2011

Should I worry?? ;-)

Op 28-6-2011 17:19, Pat Lockley schreef:
> It's Nottingham, not Mansfield
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>  wrote:
>    
>> It's that Southerner thing. To my old friends in London, a trip to Nottingham is like going to the moon. I reckon they worry they'll come back sporting a flat cap, putting gravy on their chips and fancying pigeons.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 28 June 2011 15:49
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>
>> 253 miles from Plymouth to Nottingham :)
>>
>> Though if you round 506 up to 1000 then fair enough
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Adam Read<aread at marjon.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>      
>>> Sounds interesting to me! But as I probably won't make the 1000 odd mile
>>> round trip to be there I wonder if it will also be captured
>>> digitally/disseminated?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
>>> Sent: 28 June 2011 15:35
>>>
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johnathan,
>>>
>>> Would this allow non techie people like me to add additional optional
>>> elements to a page - for example to have a video clip in a page template
>>> that currently hasn't got that option?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>> Sent: 28 June 2011 15:28
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My thinking, in offering to do something in relation to Page Wizards was to
>>> expect no previous experience other than use of Page Templates or On-line
>>> toolkits and to get people to a point where they could
>>>
>>> install and use Page Wizards,
>>> understand how the various files worked together
>>> learn how they can leverage Page Wizards to build their Developer skill and
>>> knowledge from simple beginnings to achieving the ability to create their
>>> own new Page Wizards.
>>>
>>> This would include practical items such as
>>>
>>> Understanding the basic make up of a page (not a detailed review of  the
>>> different icons)
>>> Modifying properties to change the way a page looks.
>>> Adding additional properties to a page's wizard form e.g. changing font size
>>> or colour, adding dropShadows to images.
>>> Saving a modified page as a new Page Wizard for future re-use.
>>> Looking at some existing Page Wizards to see how you might re-purpose
>>> elements from one page to a different use in a new Page Wizard.
>>>
>>> In other words not so much "what do you want to build" but "how can you gain
>>> the knowledge you will need to build what you want to build".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can't learn to be a Xerte developer in a day, but you can learn how to
>>> use the resources that Xerte has to offer, so that you can manage your
>>> learning in an effective, efficient and rewarding way that is practically
>>> useful from Day 1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What form any input on my part may take would depend on the facilities
>>> available and on what people wanted - e.g. informal discussion,
>>> presentation, more formal training with opportunity to practice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know how this fits with everyone else's expectations, but I hope it
>>> peaks their interest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johnathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2011 13:55, Davidson, Andrew<Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd certainly be interested in this - work permitting. I had ignored it
>>> since I knew it would be over my head.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am still at the templates stage with no individualisation yet attempted
>>> and so to access some form of a workshop to level up my skills would be very
>>> welcome - I guess it all depends on what the baseline skill level is for
>>> such an event - i.e. what would be the minimum experience with/usage of
>>> Xerte you would require for a workshop to work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If a baseline level is needed, the perhaps some pre-conference prep could be
>>> organised which would bring attendees up to the level required for the event
>>> in sept.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it doesn't happen for the event in sept then maybe another event
>>> focussing on content authors and exploring the potential of XOT would be
>>> most welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>>> Sent: 28 June 2011 13:15
>>>
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Would you want to use part of this event to encourage and facilitate
>>>> aspiring content authors to become some of the developers of tomorrow?
>>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, very much so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>> Sent: 28 June 2011 12:54
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "learn and share ideas..." "but not necessarily limited to developers as all
>>> input is valuable"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am quoting this from the Doodle: Xerte Developer's Nonference page as it
>>> may be that content authors who would like to learn how to develop pages may
>>> feel that this Nonference is not appropriate for them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you want to use part of this event to encourage and facilitate
>>> aspiring content authors to become some of the developers of tomorrow?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you feel this would be an appropriate use of the time then I would be
>>> willing, to provide some input on using Page Wizards to "build your
>>> developer muscles". I have posted something to this effect on the Doodle
>>> link page, but it occurred to me that content authors might not read the
>>> Doodle page if they had already decided the event was perhaps going to be
>>> 'over their heads'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure how many Xerte developers there are out there at present, but
>>> a few more wouldn't hurt. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate that you may feel that this idea may be inappropriate for the
>>> event, or alternatively premature until issues of modularisation are
>>> resolved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johnathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 June 2011 09:49, Julian Tenney<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you that missed this on Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>>> Sent: 24 June 2011 09:13
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] ANN: Xerte Develper Nonference: Suggested Dates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are looking to host a two or three day even in September for developers
>>> to come together and work on some Xerte stuff, learn and share ideas. There
>>> is some current community based work afoot to address internationalisation,
>>> and those developers were looking to meet up to move some ideas forward.
>>> There are some other ideas that could really do with prototyping, and would
>>> benefit from some group discussion: mobile delivery, for example, and
>>> Alistair has some accessibility areas he'd like to improve. Everyone always
>>> has loads of ideas for new templates as well, it would be good to share some
>>> knowledge about Xerte 3.0, and I'd welcome anything - anything at all - that
>>> others would like to put on the agenda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The event would be free, and fairly DIY. I'm happy to suggest Nottingham as
>>> a venue, but also open to ideas for other venues that might be nice.
>>> Attendees would pay travel and expenses, although there may be some booty
>>> for people willing to take on certain developments. It's all quite
>>> embryonic, but first off I need to get some idea of number of people who'd
>>> like to get together, and dates that are suitable in the middle two weeks of
>>> September: register your interest here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://doodle.com/e9s9raax55ndsxga
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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