[Xerte] Re: Timed Text

Thu Jan 27 19:21:25 GMT 2011

I don't know if any of the following will help.
For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and
flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to
play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can
turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for
use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free.

I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I
found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the
subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file
compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted
something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using
closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a
none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close
captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run
time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted
subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file
before converting to an flv.

If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file
that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video
files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close
caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they
are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light
in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil)

This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close
caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-)

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:

> No flv support…
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:31
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> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text
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> Magpie?
> http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:14
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text
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> It’s not free and there’s no demo? Not an encouraging start…
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:30
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text
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> Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate?
> http://www.buraks.com/captionate/
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:02
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text
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> Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support
> multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert
> between formats.
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:54
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text
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> I’ve used a free bit of software called “Subtitle Workshop” to make a timed
> caption file for youtube videos (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub
> Viewer file).
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> Let’s you output in a few different formats, although XML isn’t a default
> option. Txt file might be an option?
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> Adam
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:33
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Timed Text
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> Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text
> xml files?
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> I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that
> by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of
> wonderful tools for producing timed text…
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