[Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Feb 24 15:05:39 GMT 2011


The fix suggested below is in my current set of files, so the current zip ought to be OK?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 24 February 2011 14:43
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

Ok this might help but is going to make this a long message! I've stripped out Adam's sig's to make it slightly shorter. This is an old sent item I have in my Outlook from when we discussed all this before. I'm sure it can be found in the archives too but don't have time. It's obviously the top message that's most relevant but the thread gives the background.
HTH
Ron

BTW not sure if the .js attachement ever got through because my sent item says it was blocked.

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From: RonM [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 04 March 2010 23:07
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Works in Moodle too!
Also fixes the example shared by Adam earlier!
Also fixes LO’s I’d tested in Moodle previously just by replacing the flash.js file!

So to summarise:
Problem only happened with LO’s set to full screen or fill window exported as scorm and imported into Moodle. Which is what made it seem so intermittent.
None of the changes today to scormRLO.htm fixed this without causing the firefox problem.

Checking flash.js and replacing the following:
document.writeln('<br>');
document.writeln('<center><div id="sco" style="width:' + rloWidth + 'px; height:' + rloHeight + 'px;">');

with the following
document.writeln('<div id="sco" style="width:' + rloWidth + 'px; height:' + rloHeight + 'px;">');

fixed it offline and in Moodle.

.js file attached for anyone with the disappearing problem to try.

I think we got there!
Cheers 

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 22:44
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Good. Now it's Moodle's problem... and the question will be 'what happens in the ADL test suite' if anything's wrong ;-)

apiwrapper.js is pretty much the ADL supplied wrapper, so there oughtn't to be issues there.

flash.js is my own flash embedding code - Pat found a problem in there earlier fixed it.

I'll update all the downloads tomorrow so at least we have a good step forward. I know it works in WebCT, so I'd say there's a good chance it will work in another LMS...

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM
Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 22:41
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing.

So then copied scormRLO.htm to my XOT test file - same old disappearing problem.

So out of curiosity copied apiwrapper.js and flash.js from your LO to mine: Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing!

So then copied the .js files one by one to another copy of my LO. apiwrapper.js no difference. flash.js fixes problem.

So then compared differences between the two .js files

Mine had:
document.writeln('<br>');
document.writeln('<center><div id="sco" style="width:' + rloWidth + 'px; height:' + rloHeight + 'px;">');
as lines 1 and 2

Yours has:
document.writeln('<div id="sco" style="width:' + rloWidth + 'px; height:' + rloHeight + 'px;">');
as line 1 replacing 1

replacing line 1 and 2 in mine with 1 from yours seems to fix the problem

Off to test in Moodle!



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 22:02
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Confirm for me what happens when you take the zip fie at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip

Unzip those files into a folder... run the .htm.

It works? Or not? Don't mix any of these files with any of your own. We need to get to a place where we have one set of working files - I was thinking maybe you are taking just the .htm and dropping it into your own project - I need to know these files work or not as they work for me at work, and they work for me at home.

I could see your flash.js was different to mine, so lets take it a step at a time,

J

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM
Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 17:36
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
No idea! I downloaded your zip, extracted it and tried it – vanishes locally woks fine in FF. Add the doc type woks fine in IE but squishes in FF.

Not going anywhere near moodle with it yet.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 17:27
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Something is different between your files and mine.

What is it?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

It aint the cache and btw the link in your message containing: “Let’s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files.“

To quote “That example doesn’t have the doctype at the top of the file.”! ;-)

So I added the doc type and it fixes the disappearing problem in IE but creates the squishing problem in Firefox.

Adding the docype to your example does the same thing.

Please try the attached not another non XOT LO.

So just to make it 100% clear. The disappearing problem only happens in IE with LO’s set to full screen or fill window. Using the new scormRLO.htm file with doctype added fixes that problem but introduces a problem of squishing vertically in Firefox.


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 15:59
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

That ought to work then – clear your cache…

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

That does work in both browsers but...

1.       Something must have changed because your previous version wasn’t displaying full screen.
2.       It would help if we were all using an XOT created LO rather than a local file because...
3.       Given that this one worked I copied scormRLO.htm pasted in the folder of the test LO I sent to the list and changed the line pointing to test.rlo to point to learingobject.rlo result – back to the same problem – flashes and disappears!

Doesn’t work = flashes and disappears!

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 15:21
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

I think we all have.

Let’s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files.

Delete all the clutter from todays messing.

Download this: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip

Run it locally in any browser – it should work?


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

I’ve lost track of this a bit!

The scorm example that Julian linked us up with works in both IE and FF but doesn’t fill the screen.

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: 04 March 2010 15:15
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

That’s because I created that particular example before you sent that revision. However I’m sure I’ve tried that with the same result. If you add the doctype does it work?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 15:06
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

That example doesn’t have the doctype at the top of the file.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Well it doesn’t display full screen or filling the window for me.

Try the attached – just view in IE locally.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 14:54
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

It is – code in the page calls rootIcon.setDisplayMode, just the way it is in toolkits.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

As far as I can see that isn’t set to full screen or fill window so yes it works. This issue seems to happen in IE 7 or 8 when exported as scrorm and set to anything but default size.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 13:49
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

See attached – works fine locally in IE8 and Firefox and Opera. Does this not work locally for anyone?

Works in WebCT as a SCORM module in IE8, FireFox and Opera.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

I dunno. I have a piece working fine locally in both IE and firefox.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:33 PM
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Same here IE fine Firefox squished vertically! 

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 04 March 2010 13:22
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Works fine in IE now,

Error! Filename not specified.

however it’s broken in Firefox! Seems to load really small:

Error! Filename not specified.

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 13:10
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Right, got it now:

-          Add the doctype;
-          Close the head tag (oops)
-          Add the style info to the html tag as well

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html>
<head style="width:100%; height:100%; min-height:100%;">
<script type="text/javascript" src="apiwrapper.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript">
if (navigator.appName && navigator.appName.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Windows") != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Windows 3.1") == -1){
  document.write('<SCRIPT LANGUAGE=VBScript\> \n');
  document.write('on error resume next \n');
  document.write('Sub MainPreloader_FSCommand(ByVal command, ByVal args)\n');
  document.write(' call MainPreloader_DoFSCommand(command, args)\n');
  document.write('end sub\n');
  document.write('</SCRIPT\> \n');
}

function enableTTS(){
  if (navigator.appName.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1){
    VoiceObj = new ActiveXObject("Sapi.SpVoice");
  }
}

function MainPreloader_DoFSCommand(command, args){
  if (command == "messageBox"){
    alert(args);
    return true;
  }

  if (command == "speak"){
    VoiceObj.Speak(args, 3); //params = 3: 1 for asynch and 2 for purge existing (see below)
  }

  if (command == "resize"){
    document.getElementById("sco").style.width = args.substr(0, args.indexOf(","))+"px";
    document.getElementById("sco").style.height = args.substr(args.indexOf(",") + 1, args.length)+"px";
  }

  if (command == "fullscreen"){
    document.getElementById("sco").style.width = "100%";
    document.getElementById("sco").style.height = "100%";
  }

  if (command == "stopTTS"){
    VoiceObj.Speak('', 2); //params 2 to purge existing voices
  }
}
</script>


<title>SCO Example</title>
</head>
<body onload = "initialise();" onunload = "finish();" style="margin:0 auto; width:100%; height:100%; min-height:100%;">

<div style="min-height:100%; width:100%; height:100%;">

<script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript">

function launchwin(winurl,winname,winfeatures){
    //This launches a new window and then
    //focuses it if window.focus() is supported.
    newwin = window.open(winurl,winname,winfeatures);
}

function getLocation(){
  var loc = document.location.toString();
  loc = loc.substr(0, loc.lastIndexOf('/') + 1);
  return loc;
}
var FileLocation = getLocation();

rloFile = 'learningobject.rlo';
rloWidth = 800;
rloHeight = 800;
scorm = 'true';
browser = 'ie';
</script>

<script type="text/javascript" src = "flash.js"></script>

<script name="APIWRapperFunctions" type="text/javascript">

var MainPreloader = document.getElementById("MainPreloader");

function initialise(){
    //find and returns the API starting with this window
   doLMSInitialize()
}

function getValue(elementName){
  var result = String(doLMSGetValue(elementName));
  return result;
}

function setValue(elementName, value){
  var result = doLMSSetValue(elementName, value);
  return result;
}

function finish(){
    doLMSFinish();
}

</script>

</div>
</body>
</html>

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Ah, I have it now, in IE. Firefox is OK, right?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

But actually it disappears when viewing locally too.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: 04 March 2010 12:45
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Sorry been dealing with other things but just tested and NO – your LO does the same as before – flashes and then disappears.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Sorry modded scorm zip here: http://ls.net.marjon.ac.uk/bbcswebdav/xid-309080_1

Adam
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From: Adam Read
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Definitely doesn’t fix my problem.

Deleted everything from Moodle, re-downloaded the scorm RLO, unzipped, edited scormRLO.htm with the two new body/div tags, saved, re-zipped, added to moodle using scorm activity or IMS – still briefly appears then breaks.

Here’s my modded scorm package – does this work on your Moodle?

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:30
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

modules/xerte/scorm

It will of course make it’s way into the zip file…

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:22 AM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Just finished testing and Yes it does seem to fix it for me! However I made the change locally and then re-imported so as you say there may be some caching going on in Adam’s case.

This is great Julian (and Adam) thanks! – it’s cropped up many times but I’ve never seen the error Adam reported so never associated it with the default screen size. A lot of people will be very happy! ;-)

Presumably you will add this to the downloads at some point?
Also I can find it but to save a few minutes where does the scormRLO.htm sit in the XOT directory or is it created dynamically? Would be good to be able to replace a file so that it’s fixed on existing installations.

Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:08
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Hmm. Well it did break in webct before and it doesn’t now, so I don’t have anything more to go at…

Might just check with an entirely new object so there’s no caching to the old file (clutching at straws a bit I know)

Does it fix it for you Ron?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:05 AM
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Still breaks in Moodle for me after making those changes to scormRLO.htm

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 10:53
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Got it:

It was the styles thing: make these changes to the html: specifically body and div tags:

<body onload = "initialise();" onunload = "finish();" style="margin:0; width:100%; height:100%; min-height:100%;">

<div style="min-height:100%; width:100%; height:100%;">

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

I posted about this issue previously (see subject:  scorm object white screen) but hadn’t discovered that it was the default size option that was causing the problem. Thanks Adam! At least knowing that’s the conflict provides a short term solution e.g. set size to default. This has actually cropped up many times but has seemed intermittent – it now seems clear that the difference is the default size setting.

I’ve just tested the same LO I was using previously to test the problem and as soon as that’s set to default rather than full screen or full window the LO works when imported as a scorm. However as Adam says when imported as a normal zip the fill window works too. It seems likely that there’s some incompatibility between the Moodle scorm code and the full screen fill window code.

You’re right Julian – given that the only interaction tracked at the moment is the Quiz page type there’s few advantages and many disadvantage exporting and importing as scorm. I usually recommend that people either link to and use the moodle quiz for quizzes or separate LO’s so that only LO’s using the quiz page are exported and imported and the others are just linked or embedded.

It would be good to identify where the code conflict lies and fix it at some point because dynamic sizing is definitely desirable but I simply don’t have time to explore that at the moment.

Cheers
Ron



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 10:05
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

The dark grey box is just the background: don’t worry about that.

So it works locally. It doesn’t work in Moodle. So what does Moodle do to it to break it? Any other moodlers got any insight?



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:48 AM
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I actually didn’t think of just linking to it in XOT. Of course then we can’t use any grading stuff which scorm allows.

>> Does it fail even when the package is just run locally, and you’ve clicked through the API errors to run the piece?

The scorm package loads locally but has some weird size: big grey box underneath the RLO and weird behaviour on changing size’

Error! Filename not specified.



Cheers

Adam
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 09:41
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

The problem needs looking into. I think it is something to do with the styles in the html. Compare the code in scormRLO.htm to the code in a normal index.htm –that might help track it down.

But why export it anyway? Why not just link to the resource from moodle? That way you can easily edit and update the resource from toolkits, copy it, give it, duplicate it and adapt it - and all that good stuff…

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:38 AM
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Subject: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle

Hi all

Been experimenting with Moodle using some Xerte RLOs and uncovered a problem. Exporting a XOT RLO as scorm and importing into Moodle using the ‘add an IMS package’ works fine and runs as should. However, setting the ‘default size’ in XOT for the RLO to either Full Screen or Fill Screen breaks the RLO in Moodle – it completely disappears and leaves the following error :

Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; chromeframe; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MJStf; InfoPath.2; MJStf)
Timestamp: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:28:37 UTC


Message: Object expected
Line: 82
Char: 4
Code: 0
URI: http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/file.php/13/moddata/resource/52/scormRLO.htm

 If I export the RLO as a zip package and then link to the index.htm page it displays fine from Moodle with the screen default size set.

Any ideas why this might be? I’d prefer it if we could use the full screen option so that the RLO resizes to match the users browser window – and still import as scorm (most our students will use laptops which chop off the bottom of the default sized RLO)


Adam


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 24 February 2011 13:34
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

Hmm. You need one of the moodlers to help: we haven’t got it here, so I can’t really test anything,

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin
Sent: 24 February 2011 13:32
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

Looking in both ScormRLO.HTM I cannot see any doctype mentioned


Regards, Nigel
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 24 February 2011 12:49
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT
What’s the doctype at the top of both htm files?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin
Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site?


Regards, Nigel
IT Training and Support Co-ordinator

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT
We don’t have moodle here to test, but obviously we’d like to make it work (for everyone, first time).

Nigel I’m guessing you used the most up to date zip – so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we’ve not added in.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION
Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT

I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme.

--- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT
To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44

It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window.



I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check.



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT



Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can’t remember the solution: it’s down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings?



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT



Memory reminds me it’s something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle?



From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin
Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT



Hi



Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas?









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