From Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 10:28:23 2011 From: Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk (Aaron Ballantyne) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:28:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Flash Audio and Video not in Sync Message-ID: Hi All I have a .swf file that contains audio and animation. It works fine when being viewed in a browser but when I insert it into Xerte and play it the animation is no longer in sync with the audio. The audio is running in normal time but the animation seems to be running faster than the audio. I am using Flash CS3 and publishing using AS2 and for Flash v8. I am pretty new to all this so I apologise if this is a bit trivial to be asking in a post on this board but it is causing me a real headache and I can't find anything in the archive about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Aaron Follow us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Northern-Regional-College/417540091200 & Twitter http://twitter.com/NRCCollege For full details on all our courses and services visit our website - www.nrc.ac.uk ------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system ### Northern Regional College - www.nrc.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 10:51:42 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:51:42 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: This a little puzzling. Why would this work on one machine and not another: I want the text object to start out not showing all the text. I've added a 1 second delay before setting the property. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); daveid.txt.autoSize = 'none'; daveid.setText('a long line of text'); One one machine it shows a 200 X 30 object with a single line of text. On another, there is a 5 pixel high object and no text can be seen. On both machines, when I rollOver the object, I trigger daveid.txt.autoSize = 'left'; On both machines this works correctly and all text is shown. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 10:55:02 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 05:55:02 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flash Audio and Video not in Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What's the framerate of the loaded .swf? Xerte uses 24, and I'm pretty sure loaded swfs take on the parent framerate. So if they don't match, you'll probably get some odd effects. From: Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:28:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Flash Audio and Video not in Sync Hi All I have a .swf file that contains audio and animation. It works fine when being viewed in a browser but when I insert it into Xerte and play it the animation is no longer in sync with the audio. The audio is running in normal time but the animation seems to be running faster than the audio. I am using Flash CS3 and publishing using AS2 and for Flash v8. I am pretty new to all this so I apologise if this is a bit trivial to be asking in a post on this board but it is causing me a real headache and I can't find anything in the archive about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Aaron Follow us on Facebook & Twitter For full details on all our courses and services visit our website - www.nrc.ac.uk ------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system Northern Regional College - www.nrc.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:02:48 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hmm. I installed the latest download version of Xerte on the machine it was working on and it broke it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 12:03:35 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> How old was the old version? Sorry, just trying to get my head round all the mails: what's the problem again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:03 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Hmm. I installed the latest download version of Xerte on the machine it was working on and it broke it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:08:27 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Setting a txt object autoSize ='none' worked on one machine but not another. I installed the latest d/l on the working machine and that broke it. Doesn't appear to be the engine.swf, as I save a previous version and substituted that and it was still broken. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops How old was the old version? Sorry, just trying to get my head round all the mails: what?s the problem again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:03 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Hmm. I installed the latest download version of Xerte on the machine it was working on and it broke it. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 12:11:28 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:11:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Try setting it to false? >From the help: Controls automatic sizing and alignment of text fields. Acceptable values for autoSize are "none" (the default), "left", "right", and "center". When you set the autoSize property, true is a synonym for "left" and false is a synonym for "none". Same deal? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:08 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Setting a txt object autoSize ='none' worked on one machine but not another. I installed the latest d/l on the working machine and that broke it. Doesn't appear to be the engine.swf, as I save a previous version and substituted that and it was still broken. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops How old was the old version? Sorry, just trying to get my head round all the mails: what's the problem again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:03 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Hmm. I installed the latest download version of Xerte on the machine it was working on and it broke it. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 12:16:47 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:16:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, if you size up a moveiclip, you stretch iot;'s children. Draw into a new movieclip in the icon? Or fake it with two icons? What's the scenario? I'm sure there's a neat answer here. I'd draw, set the initial text to '', then when you want to show the text do iconID.setText("my txt") and then iconID.clear(), iconID.redrawtheRectangle(); //fictional method, but you get the idea From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 23:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close OK, real close Text icon properties 200 x 30. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); //set the actual text object (txt) to match the icon daveid.txt.autoSize = "none"; //tell the text object not to resize daveid.drawBorder(2,0x000000,80); //fill the text icon area daveid.fillIcon(0xff0000,80); //fill the text icon area So I get a red object 200 X 30 with the first line of text showing in it. Now I want to expand it and show all: daveid.txt.autoSize = "left"; //tell the text object to resize to show all text daveid.txt._height = daveid.txt.textHeight; //get the height of the text object daveid._height = 400; // try to expand the icon area to match the new text object height Unfortunately, this expands the text as well, with the font size jumping radically. I thought the icon and txt objects were divorced at this point? Problem because it's a child? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:18:24 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0D3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No luck. Tried false, none, 0 trying to narrow it down. Then I installed the latest d/l, and like a dummy didn't copy off the working install somewhere. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:11:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Try setting it to false? From the help:Controls automatic sizing and alignment of text fields. Acceptable values for autoSize are "none" (the default), "left", "right", and "center". When you set the autoSize property, true is a synonym for "left" and false is a synonym for "none". Same deal? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:08 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Setting a txt object autoSize ='none' worked on one machine but not another. I installed the latest d/l on the working machine and that broke it. Doesn't appear to be the engine.swf, as I save a previous version and substituted that and it was still broken. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and dropsHow old was the old version? Sorry, just trying to get my head round all the mails: what?s the problem again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:03 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Hmm. I installed the latest download version of Xerte on the machine it was working on and it broke it. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 12:12:20 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:12:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0E6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd do it with _visible? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 10:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close This a little puzzling. Why would this work on one machine and not another: I want the text object to start out not showing all the text. I've added a 1 second delay before setting the property. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); daveid.txt.autoSize = 'none'; daveid.setText('a long line of text'); One one machine it shows a 200 X 30 object with a single line of text. On another, there is a 5 pixel high object and no text can be seen. On both machines, when I rollOver the object, I trigger daveid.txt.autoSize = 'left'; On both machines this works correctly and all text is shown. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:20:16 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:20:16 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Jump to the latest in the thread. All the rest is junk. Solved it by targetting the .txt instead of the icon. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:16:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close Yeah, if you size up a moveiclip, you stretch iot;?s children. Draw into a new movieclip in the icon? Or fake it with two icons? What?s the scenario? I?m sure there?s a neat answer here. I?d draw, set the initial text to ??, then when you want to show the text do iconID.setText(?my txt?) and then iconID.clear(), iconID.redrawtheRectangle(); //fictional method, but you get the idea From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 23:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close OK, real close Text icon properties 200 x 30. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); //set the actual text object (txt) to match the icon daveid.txt.autoSize = "none"; //tell the text object not to resize daveid.drawBorder(2,0x000000,80); //fill the text icon area daveid.fillIcon(0xff0000,80); //fill the text icon area So I get a red object 200 X 30 with the first line of text showing in it. Now I want to expand it and show all: daveid.txt.autoSize = "left"; //tell the text object to resize to show all text daveid.txt._height = daveid.txt.textHeight; //get the height of the text object daveid._height = 400; // try to expand the icon area to match the new text object height Unfortunately, this expands the text as well, with the font size jumping radically. I thought the icon and txt objects were divorced at this point? Problem because it's a child? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 12:21:34 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:21:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK. But concerned about that autoSize thing stopping working. Is it a Flash Player version thing? Shouldn't be anything to do with me, not sure I can influence that even if I wanted to... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:20 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close Jump to the latest in the thread. All the rest is junk. Solved it by targetting the .txt instead of the icon. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:16:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close Yeah, if you size up a moveiclip, you stretch iot;'s children. Draw into a new movieclip in the icon? Or fake it with two icons? What's the scenario? I'm sure there's a neat answer here. I'd draw, set the initial text to '', then when you want to show the text do iconID.setText("my txt") and then iconID.clear(), iconID.redrawtheRectangle(); //fictional method, but you get the idea From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 23:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close OK, real close Text icon properties 200 x 30. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); //set the actual text object (txt) to match the icon daveid.txt.autoSize = "none"; //tell the text object not to resize daveid.drawBorder(2,0x000000,80); //fill the text icon area daveid.fillIcon(0xff0000,80); //fill the text icon area So I get a red object 200 X 30 with the first line of text showing in it. Now I want to expand it and show all: daveid.txt.autoSize = "left"; //tell the text object to resize to show all text daveid.txt._height = daveid.txt.textHeight; //get the height of the text object daveid._height = 400; // try to expand the icon area to match the new text object height Unfortunately, this expands the text as well, with the font size jumping radically. I thought the icon and txt objects were divorced at this point? Problem because it's a child? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 13:15:53 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:15:53 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Worked on 1 machine. Did not work on other machine. Re-installed Xerte on working machine. Stopped working. No changed other than the reinstall. I can't use visible as the idea was to have a single line of text visible initially, autosize = 'none', then on rollover, show all text, autosize = 'left' Then on rollout, back to 1 line, autosize = 'none'. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:21:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close OK. But concerned about that autoSize thing stopping working. Is it a Flash Player version thing? Shouldn?t be anything to do with me, not sure I can influence that even if I wanted to? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 12:20 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close Jump to the latest in the thread. All the rest is junk. Solved it by targetting the .txt instead of the icon. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:16:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - closeYeah, if you size up a moveiclip, you stretch iot;?s children. Draw into a new movieclip in the icon? Or fake it with two icons? What?s the scenario? I?m sure there?s a neat answer here. I?d draw, set the initial text to ??, then when you want to show the text do iconID.setText(?my txt?) and then iconID.clear(), iconID.redrawtheRectangle(); //fictional method, but you get the idea From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 23:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops - close OK, real close Text icon properties 200 x 30. daveid.txt.setSize(200,30); //set the actual text object (txt) to match the icon daveid.txt.autoSize = "none"; //tell the text object not to resize daveid.drawBorder(2,0x000000,80); //fill the text icon area daveid.fillIcon(0xff0000,80); //fill the text icon area So I get a red object 200 X 30 with the first line of text showing in it. Now I want to expand it and show all: daveid.txt.autoSize = "left"; //tell the text object to resize to show all text daveid.txt._height = daveid.txt.textHeight; //get the height of the text object daveid._height = 400; // try to expand the icon area to match the new text object height Unfortunately, this expands the text as well, with the font size jumping radically. I thought the icon and txt objects were divorced at this point? Problem because it's a child? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Tue Feb 1 15:52:30 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:52:30 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Message-ID: I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 15:56:07 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:56:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object's methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Tue Feb 1 16:20:09 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Indeed it is! Thanks ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 16:52:42 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:52:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Dictionary Web Service Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does anyone know of or use a decent dictionary / glossary web service that I can get or post words to and get definitions back? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 17:41:55 2011 From: Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk (Aaron Ballantyne) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:41:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flash Audio and Video not in Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cheers Dave That was the issue. I had asked someone else about this being the problem and they had though that it was unlikely and maybe a bug. I had done some searching and asked a few people about the fps that Xerte published at but no one had known. The swf file was 12fps so basically the animation played at twice the speed within Xerte while the audio played at normal speed. Thanks for your help. Aaron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Flash Audio and Video not in Sync What's the framerate of the loaded .swf? Xerte uses 24, and I'm pretty sure loaded swfs take on the parent framerate. So if they don't match, you'll probably get some odd effects. ________________________________ From: Aaron.Ballantyne at nrc.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:28:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Flash Audio and Video not in Sync Hi All I have a .swf file that contains audio and animation. It works fine when being viewed in a browser but when I insert it into Xerte and play it the animation is no longer in sync with the audio. The audio is running in normal time but the animation seems to be running faster than the audio. I am using Flash CS3 and publishing using AS2 and for Flash v8. I am pretty new to all this so I apologise if this is a bit trivial to be asking in a post on this board but it is causing me a real headache and I can't find anything in the archive about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Aaron Follow us on Facebook & Twitter For full details on all our courses and services visit our website - www.nrc.ac.uk ------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system Northern Regional College - www.nrc.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. Follow us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Northern-Regional-College/417540091200 & Twitter http://twitter.com/NRCCollege For full details on all our courses and services visit our website - www.nrc.ac.uk ------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system ### Northern Regional College - www.nrc.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 18:29:43 2011 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:29:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B053E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Many thanks Mary Ann. Your suggestions made me go back to what I was trying to do. It sounds exactly what I was looking for, but I am still struggling to work out Your Point 2, i.e. where to find the location of the script that gets executed when each tab is pressed. Could you please let me know the location for the tab navigator (and I can find the equivalent for the accordion)? Your point 1: Once I exported the accordion pages, in the folder for the learning object in the models subfolder I opened accNav (your equivalent would be tabNav). Above the accInteraction icon (equivalent to tabInteraction), I inserted the sound icon, etc. and added the sound file to the media subfolder. I think this is the same as you described. Your point 2. I do not seem to be able to find the page or file with the script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed. I tried a few places at random, e.g. makeTabs, and managed to make the sound file play but never associated with the particular page. So there is something that I am missing. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 31 January 2011 21:03 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) 2. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Mary Ann Ahearn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:29:04 -0500 From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" daa. I abandoned the button idea and just have a text field set to scroll auto. Now of course I can't scroll the text because the drag hand overrides the scroll component. Sigh. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:24:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Interesting ? that ought to work. Is it a timing issue ? try making the button, then disabling, then when you know it?s actually disablerd, try making the interaction with it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 16:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops If I hand code it, yes. No luck with: buttonid~leave~0 or buttonrs~leave~0 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:20:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and dropsSorry ? should have read it all. It?s a movieclip ? it should do all the things movieclips do Btn.startDrag()? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 15:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Can a button be draggable? Tried id and rs and no joy. Disabled the button first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:36 -0500 From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, is this a possibility: I figure the scrollbar is hot because it is create as a child of the text icon when scrolling is set as a property. Can I create the scrollbar as a child of some other icon and set the target as the text icon text field? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:23:43 -0500 From: Mary Ann Ahearn To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I managed to put a narration on each tab of a page created with the tab navigation template. Haven't used the accordion template at all but I have to think it's somewhat similar. Did this after the page was created. 1 - Put a sound icon on the page somewhere above the tab interaction icon. In this example it plays a narration that introduces the page at first, and its id is "VO". 2 - Then in the script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed add 3 lines of code: VO.pause(); VO.loadSound(FileLocation + 'media/narration_01.mp3'); VO.play(); All you have to do is change the sound file that's referenced in the script for each tab and there you have it. Seems to work fine. Should be easily adaptable for the accordion interaction. Hope this answer is at least somewhat related to your question. -ma On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Ott A (AT) wrote: > Many thanks - I will give it a go. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 31 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:29:53 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B03B2 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > Xerte. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Thanks Julian, > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure of > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct advantage. > > Cheers, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > Math.exp(number) > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > Cheers. > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > I'm gapping at the moment. > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > No, > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:48:41 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AB8D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'd look at creating your own version of the accordion navigator page that > adds in the functionality you want. The other .rlms are useful sources of > how to do various things, so best place to start would be with a copy of the > accordion model and look at the bits that add the content for the > accordion's panes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 31 January 2011 11:30 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > Xerte. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Thanks Julian, > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure of > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct advantage. > > Cheers, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > Math.exp(number) > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > Cheers. > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > I'm gapping at the moment. > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > No, > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 ************************************ From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:17:26 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Tue Feb 1 19:59:57 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:59:57 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators In-Reply-To: <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B053E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B053E@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Oops, just looked at the standard template code and see that ours is different. But I did a little test with the accordion template and found that if you add the following to the *fTogglePane* script icon after the line where tempIndex is assigned, it seems to work. You know which pane you're on by looking at tempIndex which is 0 for the first one, 1 for the second and so on. VO.pause(); if (tempIndex == 0) { VO.loadSound(FileLocation + 'media/narration_01.mp3'); } else { (VO.loadSound(FileLocation + 'media/narration_02.mp3'); } VO.play(); On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Ott A (AT) wrote: > Many thanks Mary Ann. Your suggestions made me go back to what I was trying > to do. It sounds exactly what I was looking for, but I am still struggling > to work out Your Point 2, i.e. where to find the location of the script that > gets executed when each tab is pressed. Could you please let me know the > location for the tab navigator (and I can find the equivalent for the > accordion)? > > Your point 1: Once I exported the accordion pages, in the folder for the > learning object in the models subfolder I opened accNav (your equivalent > would be tabNav). Above the accInteraction icon (equivalent to > tabInteraction), I inserted the sound icon, etc. and added the sound file to > the media subfolder. I think this is the same as you described. > > Your point 2. I do not seem to be able to find the page or file with the > script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed. I tried a few > places at random, e.g. makeTabs, and managed to make the sound file play but > never associated with the particular page. So there is something that I am > missing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 31 January 2011 21:03 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) > 2. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Mary Ann Ahearn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:29:04 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > daa. > > I abandoned the button idea and just have a text field set to scroll auto. > Now of course I can't scroll the text because the drag hand overrides the > scroll component. > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:24:49 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops > > > > Interesting ? that ought to work. Is it a timing issue ? try making the > button, then disabling, then when you know it?s actually disablerd, try > making the interaction with it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk[mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 31 January 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops > If I hand code it, yes. > > No luck with: > buttonid~leave~0 > or > buttonrs~leave~0 > > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:20:36 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and dropsSorry ? should have read it all. It?s a > movieclip ? it should do all the things movieclips do Btn.startDrag()? From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 31 January 2011 15:05 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops > Can a button be draggable? > Tried id and rs and no joy. > Disabled the button first. > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110131/e2d9485f/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:36 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > OK, is this a possibility: > > I figure the scrollbar is hot because it is create as a child of the text > icon when scrolling is set as a property. > > Can I create the scrollbar as a child of some other icon and set the target > as the text icon text field? > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110131/afb10a55/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:23:43 -0500 > From: Mary Ann Ahearn > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I managed to put a > narration on each tab of a page created with the tab navigation template. > Haven't used the accordion template at all but I have to think it's > somewhat > similar. Did this after the page was created. > > 1 - Put a sound icon on the page somewhere above the tab interaction icon. > In this example it plays a narration that introduces the page at first, and > its id is "VO". > > 2 - Then in the script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed > add 3 lines of code: > > VO.pause(); > VO.loadSound(FileLocation + 'media/narration_01.mp3'); > VO.play(); > > All you have to do is change the sound file that's referenced in the script > for each tab and there you have it. > > Seems to work fine. Should be easily adaptable for the accordion > interaction. > > Hope this answer is at least somewhat related to your question. > > -ma > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Ott A (AT) wrote: > > > Many thanks - I will give it a go. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Sent: 31 January 2011 12:00 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Ott A (AT)) > > 2. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Julian Tenney) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:29:53 +0000 > > From: "Ott A (AT)" > > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B03B2 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > > Xerte. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Julian Tenney) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > > From: Julian Tenney > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > < > > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > > > Thanks Julian, > > > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure > of > > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct > advantage. > > > > Cheers, Alex. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Julian Tenney) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > > From: "Ott A (AT)" > > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Message-ID: > > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi > > > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit > in > > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > > > Many thanks, Alex. > > > > Alexandra Ott > > Instructional Designer > > The Professional Academy > > Faculty of Advanced Technology > > University of Glamorgan > > CF37 1DL > > Room G244 > > Tel: 01443 482206 > > aott at glam.ac.uk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > > From: Dave Burnett > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > > Math.exp(number) > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > > I'm gapping at the moment. > > > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > > > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do > > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and > any > > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please > > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any > > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily > > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised > to > > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do > > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > > From: Julian Tenney > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > < > > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > No, > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > > > Hi > > > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit > in > > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > > > Many thanks, Alex. > > > > Alexandra Ott > > Instructional Designer > > The Professional Academy > > Faculty of Advanced Technology > > University of Glamorgan > > CF37 1DL > > Room G244 > > Tel: 01443 482206 > > aott at glam.ac.uk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > ************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > ************************************* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:48:41 +0000 > > From: Julian Tenney > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > < > > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AB8D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I'd look at creating your own version of the accordion navigator page > that > > adds in the functionality you want. The other .rlms are useful sources of > > how to do various things, so best place to start would be with a copy of > the > > accordion model and look at the bits that add the content for the > > accordion's panes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > > Sent: 31 January 2011 11:30 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > > Xerte. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Julian Tenney) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > > From: Julian Tenney > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > < > > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > > > Thanks Julian, > > > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure > of > > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct > advantage. > > > > Cheers, Alex. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > (Julian Tenney) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > > From: "Ott A (AT)" > > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Message-ID: > > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi > > > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit > in > > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > > > Many thanks, Alex. > > > > Alexandra Ott > > Instructional Designer > > The Professional Academy > > Faculty of Advanced Technology > > University of Glamorgan > > CF37 1DL > > Room G244 > > Tel: 01443 482206 > > aott at glam.ac.uk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > > From: Dave Burnett > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > > Math.exp(number) > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > > To: Xerte list > > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > > I'm gapping at the moment. > > > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > > > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do > > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and > any > > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please > > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. > Any > > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily > > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised > to > > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in > > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not > > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do > > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > > From: Julian Tenney > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > > Navigators > > Message-ID: > > < > > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > No, > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > > > Hi > > > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit > in > > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > > > Many thanks, Alex. > > > > Alexandra Ott > > Instructional Designer > > The Professional Academy > > Faculty of Advanced Technology > > University of Glamorgan > > CF37 1DL > > Room G244 > > Tel: 01443 482206 > > aott at glam.ac.uk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > ************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > ************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > > ************************************ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110131/8fb8a603/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 21:19:16 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:15:48 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:15:48 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question do they get drawn? What is args[0]? What is args[1] //is it a number? You can drag them? But hitTest fails? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 February 2011 19:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Tue Feb 1 22:41:43 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:41:43 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC4 19342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think that is what it is supposed to do. From the Help file: To create five pages on a framework that follows a script icon, and that has an initial prototypical page on it: icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(5); I think the prototype itself is not displayed, just the duplicates of it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:16 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:57:56 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:57:56 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC4, 19342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: Done it the other way dozens of times and it seems to work. ;-) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:41:43 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I think that is what it is supposed to do. From the Help file: To create five pages on a framework that follows a script icon, and that has an initial prototypical page on it: icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(5); I think the prototype itself is not displayed, just the duplicates of it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:16 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 10:04:13 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:04:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC4, 19342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It is that way. xmlNode.duplicate(4) will create four new nodes from the original duplicated node, making five in total. I've done this so many times I know it works, so there must be another problem in the code somewhere if you only end up with four children. Need to debug each step, and see what's going on. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 22:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Done it the other way dozens of times and it seems to work. ;-) ________________________________ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:41:43 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I think that is what it is supposed to do. From the Help file: To create five pages on a framework that follows a script icon, and that has an initial prototypical page on it: icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(5); I think the prototype itself is not displayed, just the duplicates of it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:16 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 10:05:05 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:05:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> debug(Icon.parentNode.childNodes.length) and see how many child nodes there are after your dupe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 22:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question do they get drawn? What is args[0]? What is args[1] //is it a number? You can drag them? But hitTest fails? ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 February 2011 19:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 11:45:53 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:45:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Does anyone know of or use a decent dictionary / glossary web service > that I can get or post words to and get definitions back? Are you looking for a service which you can use to generate, say, popups/tooltips above marked words? Are you looking for English or for other languages? You might the following of interest: www.wordreference.com - multilingual dictionary with downloadable browser and smartphone widgets http://www.wordnik.com/ http://www.onelook.com/ http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ Those are starters for ten - I could likely help more if I know what your specs are. I used to work in languages... Fred ---- This email represents my own personal views and is not at all reflective of policy or opinions at my institution. So there. ---- From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 11:56:01 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:56:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Rather than build an academic glossary of all words, it would be great to hit a web service and get definitions of words back. It needs to handle things like 'heteroscedastic' or other more arcane concepts. Ideally you'd also be able to contribute definitions as well, so if 'heteroscedastic' wasn't in the service, you could add it, or could add an alternative definition. When I did my degree, my most thumbed book was 'The Collins Dictionary of Economics', because there were lots of words I hadn't seen before. It struck me that this is useful in all sorts of content, and there ought to be one 'best of' service rather than everyone all creating their own glossary functionality. If everyone contributed a few definitions in each subject area, soon we'd have a really good resource that developers could draw on and contribute to when creating interactive content. If there isn't one, this is one of those beautifully simple ideas that we should take forward ourselves, but it's also one of those beautifully simple ideas that someone ought to have thought of already... It would fit well with xpert. J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 02 February 2011 11:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Does anyone know of or use a decent dictionary / glossary web service > that I can get or post words to and get definitions back? Are you looking for a service which you can use to generate, say, popups/tooltips above marked words? Are you looking for English or for other languages? You might the following of interest: www.wordreference.com - multilingual dictionary with downloadable browser and smartphone widgets http://www.wordnik.com/ http://www.onelook.com/ http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ Those are starters for ten - I could likely help more if I know what your specs are. I used to work in languages... Fred ---- This email represents my own personal views and is not at all reflective of policy or opinions at my institution. So there. ---- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 12:02:17 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:02:17 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I had put debugs in that are reporting the index and x value of the text fields as they are built. 0 100 1 200 2 300 3 400 4 500 If I duplicate(1), I lose node 0 If I duplicate (4) I lose node 0 That's the bizarre issue. I'm only losing the first node, although the debug says it's there. I'll have to step by step it. :-/ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:05:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question debug(Icon.parentNode.childNodes.length) and see how many child nodes there are after your dupe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 22:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest questiondo they get drawn?What is args[0]?What is args[1] //is it a number? You can drag them? But hitTest fails? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 February 2011 19:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 12:03:32 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:03:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: So we want an online service that any one can contribute to and define terms. Wikipedia? #justsaying -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 February 2011 11:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Rather than build an academic glossary of all words, it would be great to hit a web service and get definitions of words back. It needs to handle things like 'heteroscedastic' or other more arcane concepts. Ideally you'd also be able to contribute definitions as well, so if 'heteroscedastic' wasn't in the service, you could add it, or could add an alternative definition. When I did my degree, my most thumbed book was 'The Collins Dictionary of Economics', because there were lots of words I hadn't seen before. It struck me that this is useful in all sorts of content, and there ought to be one 'best of' service rather than everyone all creating their own glossary functionality. If everyone contributed a few definitions in each subject area, soon we'd have a really good resource that developers could draw on and contribute to when creating interactive content. If there isn't one, this is one of those beautifully simple ideas that we should take forward ourselves, but it's also one of those beautifully simple ideas that someone ought to have thought of already... It would fit well with xpert. J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 02 February 2011 11:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Does anyone know of or use a decent dictionary / glossary web service > that I can get or post words to and get definitions back? Are you looking for a service which you can use to generate, say, popups/tooltips above marked words? Are you looking for English or for other languages? You might the following of interest: www.wordreference.com - multilingual dictionary with downloadable browser and smartphone widgets http://www.wordnik.com/ http://www.onelook.com/ http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ Those are starters for ten - I could likely help more if I know what your specs are. I used to work in languages... Fred ---- This email represents my own personal views and is not at all reflective of policy or opinions at my institution. So there. ---- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 12:04:45 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:04:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B64C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you look at the file in notepad is there anything funny about the node? Is it valid? Can you replicate in a simple example? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 12:02 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I had put debugs in that are reporting the index and x value of the text fields as they are built. 0 100 1 200 2 300 3 400 4 500 If I duplicate(1), I lose node 0 If I duplicate (4) I lose node 0 That's the bizarre issue. I'm only losing the first node, although the debug says it's there. I'll have to step by step it. :-/ ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:05:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question debug(Icon.parentNode.childNodes.length) and see how many child nodes there are after your dupe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 22:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question do they get drawn? What is args[0]? What is args[1] //is it a number? You can drag them? But hitTest fails? ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 February 2011 19:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 12:06:07 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:06:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I want to be able to do http://some service.com?req=getdef&word=heteroscadastic and have the definition of heteroscedastic retuned so I can present in my content. Wikipedia do that? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 12:04 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service So we want an online service that any one can contribute to and define terms. Wikipedia? #justsaying -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 February 2011 11:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Rather than build an academic glossary of all words, it would be great to hit a web service and get definitions of words back. It needs to handle things like 'heteroscedastic' or other more arcane concepts. Ideally you'd also be able to contribute definitions as well, so if 'heteroscedastic' wasn't in the service, you could add it, or could add an alternative definition. When I did my degree, my most thumbed book was 'The Collins Dictionary of Economics', because there were lots of words I hadn't seen before. It struck me that this is useful in all sorts of content, and there ought to be one 'best of' service rather than everyone all creating their own glossary functionality. If everyone contributed a few definitions in each subject area, soon we'd have a really good resource that developers could draw on and contribute to when creating interactive content. If there isn't one, this is one of those beautifully simple ideas that we should take forward ourselves, but it's also one of those beautifully simple ideas that someone ought to have thought of already... It would fit well with xpert. J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 02 February 2011 11:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Does anyone know of or use a decent dictionary / glossary web service > that I can get or post words to and get definitions back? Are you looking for a service which you can use to generate, say, popups/tooltips above marked words? Are you looking for English or for other languages? You might the following of interest: www.wordreference.com - multilingual dictionary with downloadable browser and smartphone widgets http://www.wordnik.com/ http://www.onelook.com/ http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ Those are starters for ten - I could likely help more if I know what your specs are. I used to work in languages... Fred ---- This email represents my own personal views and is not at all reflective of policy or opinions at my institution. So there. ---- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 12:56:56 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:56:56 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Below the dec with the duped children I asked for the y attrib and the clip()._y atts y 400 atts y 450 atts y 500 atts y 550 atts y 600 clip 600 clip 450 clip 500 clip 550 clip 600 5 clip is overlaying the 1 clip, but the y attrib is reporting correctly? I have remmed out all the other code below the dupe call. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:05:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question debug(Icon.parentNode.childNodes.length) and see how many child nodes there are after your dupe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 01 February 2011 22:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Sorry, pilot error. Missing semi-colon in 80 lines of code. Now a new one. I have the proto textfield set up and working, now I do a duplicate(4) and only get the last 4. First one seems to be being destroyed or overwritten or something. sigh From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest questiondo they get drawn?What is args[0]?What is args[1] //is it a number? You can drag them? But hitTest fails? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 February 2011 19:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hitTest question I have some draggable text objects and trying to drop them onto drawn panels: args[0].beginFill(0xDFDFDFDF,100); args[0].drawRect(0,0,args[1],tempH,4); Can't seem to get a hit. No go for drawn objects? Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 13:29:42 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:29:42 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Message-ID: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 14:09:44 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:09:44 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Removed a couple id's from dec icons and it works now. Did a search and those id's were single instances. I wasn't using them for reference anyway, it's all done with icon. etc. Weird. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 14:11:33 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> Message-ID: The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 14:41:46 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:41:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 14:44:05 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:44:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> Message-ID: Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 14:45:51 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:45:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B780@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'll bet you a jam sandwich that the xml nodes were being duplicated properly, but the icons were failing to instantiate when the xml was then parsed, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 14:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Removed a couple id's from dec icons and it works now. Did a search and those id's were single instances. I wasn't using them for reference anyway, it's all done with icon. etc. Weird. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 14:47:36 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:47:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B784@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Some places have the crossdomain in there, set to * already, anticipating Flash developers hooking to the data. Some things just work. Some things that just work today don't work tomorrow. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 15:06:06 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:06:06 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 15:08:10 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:08:10 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B784@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B784@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00e301cbc2eb$06a94210$13fbc630$@co.uk> some things give me a headache! ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 02 February 2011 14:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Some places have the crossdomain in there, set to * already, anticipating Flash developers hooking to the data. Some things just work. Some things that just work today don't work tomorrow. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 15:10:25 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:10:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 15:15:30 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:15:30 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B780@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B780@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm just a common working man Half a pint of bitters, bread and jam. Sounds good, but why? Works now, so I'm guessing I inadvertently fixed something with all my remming/unremming of code //draggable //draggable //draggable Can I swap the item being dragged above the others? debug says they are all at depth 1 blah.swapDepth(2) says it is now at 2, but it remains below the subsequent 's From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:45:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I?ll bet you a jam sandwich that the xml nodes were being duplicated properly, but the icons were failing to instantiate when the xml was then parsed, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 14:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Removed a couple id's from dec icons and it works now. Did a search and those id's were single instances. I wasn't using them for reference anyway, it's all done with icon. etc. Weird. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 15:16:29 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:16:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Brain wave had here - open up your snoopy file - what is the agent set to? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 15:23:01 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:23:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B780@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B7DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You need to swap depths on the pages, not the items: swapDepths needs a common parent. You are swapping the item's layer on its parent clip. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I'm just a common working man Half a pint of bitters, bread and jam. Sounds good, but why? Works now, so I'm guessing I inadvertently fixed something with all my remming/unremming of code //draggable //draggable //draggable Can I swap the item being dragged above the others? debug says they are all at depth 1 blah.swapDepth(2) says it is now at 2, but it remains below the subsequent 's ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:45:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I'll bet you a jam sandwich that the xml nodes were being duplicated properly, but the icons were failing to instantiate when the xml was then parsed, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 14:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Removed a couple id's from dec icons and it works now. Did a search and those id's were single instances. I wasn't using them for reference anyway, it's all done with icon. etc. Weird. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 15:25:37 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:25:37 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B7DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6D32@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC3E7134@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD70DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD7108@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2ADF6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AE01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0F2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B0FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B50D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B780@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B7DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It had just hit me when I was out having a smoke... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:23:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question You need to swap depths on the pages, not the items: swapDepths needs a common parent. You are swapping the item?s layer on its parent clip. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question I'm just a common working man Half a pint of bitters, bread and jam. Sounds good, but why? Works now, so I'm guessing I inadvertently fixed something with all my remming/unremming of code //draggable //draggable //draggable Can I swap the item being dragged above the others? debug says they are all at depth 1 blah.swapDepth(2) says it is now at 2, but it remains below the subsequent 's From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:45:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest questionI?ll bet you a jam sandwich that the xml nodes were being duplicated properly, but the icons were failing to instantiate when the xml was then parsed, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 02 February 2011 14:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hitTest question Removed a couple id's from dec icons and it works now. Did a search and those id's were single instances. I wasn't using them for reference anyway, it's all done with icon. etc. Weird. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 15:30:19 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:30:19 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010c01cbc2ee$1bc56f40$53504dc0$@co.uk> That's my point we've been here before! :-( e.g. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c om/search.atom?q=xerte times out but http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte works in browser and yet http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://www.nottingham.a c.uk/xerte/rss/rssfeed.xml works and on a server where proxy is configured so does http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitt er.com/search.atom?q=xerte So on a server without a proxy configured the twitter search feed fails but nottingham feed works and on a server with proxy configured both work. This applies to the lo's as well as links in browser. Is it possible there is a timeout setting somewhere which can be changed? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c om/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 15:35:15 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:35:15 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <011701cbc2ee$cc0648c0$6412da40$@co.uk> var $agent=""; // agent we masquerade as but the same on both servers. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Brain wave had here - open up your snoopy file - what is the agent set to? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c om/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 15:40:42 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:40:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <010c01cbc2ee$1bc56f40$53504dc0$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> <010c01cbc2ee$1bc56f40$53504dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: There is a timeout setting in snoopy. It's more likely a server problem with code being turned on or not. Google firefox agent and then paste the long agent string into snoopy. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? That's my point we've been here before! :-( e.g. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte times out but http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte works in browser and yet http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/rss/rssfeed.xml works and on a server where proxy is configured so does http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte So on a server without a proxy configured the twitter search feed fails but nottingham feed works and on a server with proxy configured both work. This applies to the lo's as well as links in browser. Is it possible there is a timeout setting somewhere which can be changed? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 2 16:22:50 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:22:50 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> <010c01cbc2ee$1bc56f40$53504dc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <014001cbc2f5$720de380$5629aa80$@co.uk> I tried a couple of different agent strings but neither fixed the problem :-( "server problem with code being turned on or not" can you explain further? But also just to say this is consisten across a number of installations e.g. only those with proxy settings added via management page display the twitter feed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? There is a timeout setting in snoopy. It's more likely a server problem with code being turned on or not. Google firefox agent and then paste the long agent string into snoopy. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? That's my point we've been here before! :-( e.g. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c om/search.atom?q=xerte times out but http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte works in browser and yet http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://www.nottingham.a c.uk/xerte/rss/rssfeed.xml works and on a server where proxy is configured so does http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitt er.com/search.atom?q=xerte So on a server without a proxy configured the twitter search feed fails but nottingham feed works and on a server with proxy configured both work. This applies to the lo's as well as links in browser. Is it possible there is a timeout setting somewhere which can be changed? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c om/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 17:38:39 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:38:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I want to be able to do > > http://some service.com?req=getdef&word=heteroscadastic > > and have the definition of heteroscedastic retuned so I can present in > my content. > > Wikipedia do that? Ok, I can see what you're after, Julian. Wikipedia can't do that, but Wiktionary might. It even has your very abstruse word "heteroscedastic". I can't see an API or a tool to return a simple definition from a URL, but you might be able to hack a scraper based on the following URL format: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/ For instance: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/heteroscedastic Of course, you'd then have to parse the returned data. However, this resource might fulfil your aim of a universal contributory glossary, and maybe there is an API buried away somewhere on the site. Worth a neb, anyway. Wordreference (http://www.wordreference.com/), which I mentioned before, has some 'client-side' functionality with Javascript 'bookmarklets' and mobile apps. Whilst primarily aimed at translation between language pairs, there's also an English-only dictionary, though it doesn't have "heteroscedastic" as it's a general-purpose effort. Wordnik (www.wordnik.com) looks to be a possible, as it has an API and a SDK, and has a definition for "heteroscedastic". It's also contributory. Let us know what you end up with - I'd definitely be interested, on account of my languages interests. Dictionary/thesaurus/concordancing apps for mobile devices would also be very useful to know about (and might give me the final push to get a smartphone). On a tangent, does anyone in languages on here know of a good online concordancer, or app/widget, that you can feed corpora in various languages to? Fred From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Wed Feb 2 17:57:03 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:57:03 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Wiktionary does have an API: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php Lots of output options, including xml, xmlfm (default), json, php, ... > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:39 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I want to be able to do > > > > http://some service.com?req=getdef&word=heteroscadastic > > > > and have the definition of heteroscedastic retuned so I can present > in > > my content. > > > > Wikipedia do that? > > Ok, I can see what you're after, Julian. Wikipedia can't do that, but > Wiktionary might. It even has your very abstruse word > "heteroscedastic". I can't see an API or a tool to return a simple > definition from a URL, but you might be able to hack a scraper based on > the following URL format: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/ > > For instance: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/heteroscedastic > > Of course, you'd then have to parse the returned data. However, this > resource might fulfil your aim of a universal contributory glossary, > and maybe there is an API buried away somewhere on the site. Worth a > neb, anyway. > > Wordreference (http://www.wordreference.com/), which I mentioned > before, has some 'client-side' functionality with Javascript > 'bookmarklets' and mobile apps. Whilst primarily aimed at translation > between language pairs, there's also an English-only dictionary, though > it doesn't have "heteroscedastic" as it's a general-purpose effort. > > Wordnik (www.wordnik.com) looks to be a possible, as it has an API and > a SDK, and has a definition for "heteroscedastic". It's also > contributory. > > Let us know what you end up with - I'd definitely be interested, on > account of my languages interests. Dictionary/thesaurus/concordancing > apps for mobile devices would also be very useful to know about (and > might give me the final push to get a smartphone). > > On a tangent, does anyone in languages on here know of a good online > concordancer, or app/widget, that you can feed corpora in various > languages to? > > Fred > From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 18:37:52 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:37:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? In-Reply-To: <014001cbc2f5$720de380$5629aa80$@co.uk> References: <008001cbc2dd$42502260$c6f06720$@co.uk> <00b601cbc2e7$5ba14280$12e3c780$@co.uk> <00db01cbc2ea$b9ca74a0$2d5f5de0$@co.uk> <010c01cbc2ee$1bc56f40$53504dc0$@co.uk> <014001cbc2f5$720de380$5629aa80$@co.uk> Message-ID: Fsockopen is the major function - try some examples with code from the php site and see what happens From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 16:23 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? I tried a couple of different agent strings but neither fixed the problem :-( "server problem with code being turned on or not" can you explain further? But also just to say this is consisten across a number of installations e.g. only those with proxy settings added via management page display the twitter feed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? There is a timeout setting in snoopy. It's more likely a server problem with code being turned on or not. Google firefox agent and then paste the long agent string into snoopy. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? That's my point we've been here before! :-( e.g. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte times out but http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte works in browser and yet http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/rss/rssfeed.xml works and on a server where proxy is configured so does http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte So on a server without a proxy configured the twitter search feed fails but nottingham feed works and on a server with proxy configured both work. This applies to the lo's as well as links in browser. Is it possible there is a timeout setting somewhere which can be changed? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo What does http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte bring you? It seems to timeout to me. Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what the content is. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 Fiddler shows GET /xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but doesn't show any error as far as I can see. Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Define work - nothing appearing? Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase... why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't? If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation other rss feeds work? My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a suitable port via the management page? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time. A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a crossdomain.xml From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not? Hi I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time... If I add a twitter search feed e.g. http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added. Here's a couple of examples: With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237 Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13 But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I can get this to work without a proxy server configured? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 08:41:43 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:41:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I looked at it and could parse the page easily enough, I'm just not sure it's quite what I'm after: the Glossary I have in mind is not quite the same thing as a dictionary. In the past I've made Glossaries for pieces of courseware, and the problem is they are all separate / in different formats etc. One *big* glossary that all things could call on might be really useful. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 02 February 2011 17:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Wiktionary does have an API: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php Lots of output options, including xml, xmlfm (default), json, php, ... > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:39 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I want to be able to do > > > > http://some service.com?req=getdef&word=heteroscadastic > > > > and have the definition of heteroscedastic retuned so I can present > in > > my content. > > > > Wikipedia do that? > > Ok, I can see what you're after, Julian. Wikipedia can't do that, but > Wiktionary might. It even has your very abstruse word > "heteroscedastic". I can't see an API or a tool to return a simple > definition from a URL, but you might be able to hack a scraper based on > the following URL format: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/ > > For instance: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/heteroscedastic > > Of course, you'd then have to parse the returned data. However, this > resource might fulfil your aim of a universal contributory glossary, > and maybe there is an API buried away somewhere on the site. Worth a > neb, anyway. > > Wordreference (http://www.wordreference.com/), which I mentioned > before, has some 'client-side' functionality with Javascript > 'bookmarklets' and mobile apps. Whilst primarily aimed at translation > between language pairs, there's also an English-only dictionary, though > it doesn't have "heteroscedastic" as it's a general-purpose effort. > > Wordnik (www.wordnik.com) looks to be a possible, as it has an API and > a SDK, and has a definition for "heteroscedastic". It's also > contributory. > > Let us know what you end up with - I'd definitely be interested, on > account of my languages interests. Dictionary/thesaurus/concordancing > apps for mobile devices would also be very useful to know about (and > might give me the final push to get a smartphone). > > On a tangent, does anyone in languages on here know of a good online > concordancer, or app/widget, that you can feed corpora in various > languages to? > > Fred > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 10:53:51 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:53:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I looked at it and could parse the page easily enough, I'm just not > sure it's quite what I'm after: the Glossary I have in mind is not > quite the same thing as a dictionary. In the past I've made Glossaries > for pieces of courseware, and the problem is they are all separate / in > different formats etc. One *big* glossary that all things could call on > might be really useful. Yes, I can see that, though I reckon you'll not be able to find one. Essentially, a glossary is a stripped-down dictionary, so that you purely get the definition, not grammatical or entomological or usage stuff. Unfortunately, there's not much call for something so stripped-down for general vocabulary so you'll be lucky to find a 'glossary of everything' I reckon. There are glossaries for specific subjects (eg Jargon dictionary, Glossary of linguistic terms, Economics glossary) but they often don't exist in machine-readable form. I'll have a further hunt as it's an intriguing problem. It might be worth getting in touch with someone in the language centre. I understand your problem. E-learning resources that we've created often have glossary terms written by teachers, which runs into the problem of different teachers defining the same term differently, so a 'definitive' glossary would be useful. But then, that's what a dictionary is supposed to be ;) Fred From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 11:19:19 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:19:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 10:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > I looked at it and could parse the page easily enough, I'm just not > sure it's quite what I'm after: the Glossary I have in mind is not > quite the same thing as a dictionary. In the past I've made Glossaries > for pieces of courseware, and the problem is they are all separate / in > different formats etc. One *big* glossary that all things could call on > might be really useful. Yes, I can see that, though I reckon you'll not be able to find one. Essentially, a glossary is a stripped-down dictionary, so that you purely get the definition, not grammatical or entomological or usage stuff. Unfortunately, there's not much call for something so stripped-down for general vocabulary so you'll be lucky to find a 'glossary of everything' I reckon. There are glossaries for specific subjects (eg Jargon dictionary, Glossary of linguistic terms, Economics glossary) but they often don't exist in machine-readable form. I'll have a further hunt as it's an intriguing problem. It might be worth getting in touch with someone in the language centre. I understand your problem. E-learning resources that we've created often have glossary terms written by teachers, which runs into the problem of different teachers defining the same term differently, so a 'definitive' glossary would be useful. But then, that's what a dictionary is supposed to be ;) Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 11:47:05 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:47:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen Message-ID: Is it possible that when you upload a FLV video into an LO that you can make it full screen? I am new to Xerte and it seems to only appear in the top right of the screen? ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 3 12:07:25 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:07:25 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: wikiglossary.org? > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:19:19 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 03 February 2011 10:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I looked at it and could parse the page easily enough, I'm just not > > sure it's quite what I'm after: the Glossary I have in mind is not > > quite the same thing as a dictionary. In the past I've made Glossaries > > for pieces of courseware, and the problem is they are all separate / in > > different formats etc. One *big* glossary that all things could call on > > might be really useful. > > Yes, I can see that, though I reckon you'll not be able to find one. Essentially, a glossary is a stripped-down dictionary, so that you purely get the definition, not grammatical or entomological or usage stuff. Unfortunately, there's not much call for something so stripped-down for general vocabulary so you'll be lucky to find a 'glossary of everything' I reckon. There are glossaries for specific subjects (eg Jargon dictionary, Glossary of linguistic terms, Economics glossary) but they often don't exist in machine-readable form. > > I'll have a further hunt as it's an intriguing problem. It might be worth getting in touch with someone in the language centre. > > I understand your problem. E-learning resources that we've created often have glossary terms written by teachers, which runs into the problem of different teachers defining the same term differently, so a 'definitive' glossary would be useful. But then, that's what a dictionary is supposed to be ;) > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 12:37:32 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:37:32 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is the Becta Vocab studio work relevant or useful? Intro here - http://industry.becta.org.uk/content_files/corporate/resources/events/20 06/october/mikecollett_launch.pdf With Becta's demise it has been left somewhat in limbo but still continues in these incarnations: http://www.k-int.com/node/24 http://www.vocman.com/vms Also I don't know how current this page is but the Collections Trust were looking for partners for similar work: http://www.collectionstrust.org.uk/index.cfm/home/project-opportunities1 /project-proposal-cultural-vocabulary-studio-and-bank/ Hope that helps Alistair -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 03 February 2011 11:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 10:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > I looked at it and could parse the page easily enough, I'm just not > sure it's quite what I'm after: the Glossary I have in mind is not > quite the same thing as a dictionary. In the past I've made Glossaries > for pieces of courseware, and the problem is they are all separate / in > different formats etc. One *big* glossary that all things could call on > might be really useful. Yes, I can see that, though I reckon you'll not be able to find one. Essentially, a glossary is a stripped-down dictionary, so that you purely get the definition, not grammatical or entomological or usage stuff. Unfortunately, there's not much call for something so stripped-down for general vocabulary so you'll be lucky to find a 'glossary of everything' I reckon. There are glossaries for specific subjects (eg Jargon dictionary, Glossary of linguistic terms, Economics glossary) but they often don't exist in machine-readable form. I'll have a further hunt as it's an intriguing problem. It might be worth getting in touch with someone in the language centre. I understand your problem. E-learning resources that we've created often have glossary terms written by teachers, which runs into the problem of different teachers defining the same term differently, so a 'definitive' glossary would be useful. But then, that's what a dictionary is supposed to be ;) Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 13:54:25 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 14:31:55 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:31:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] SSL with XERTE Message-ID: Has anyone out there applied SSL to a xerte install or do you only have your institutional installs available from within your networks? We are trying to apply SSL are notsure how you do this with Xerte. Can anyone help? Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 15:45:26 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:45:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SSL with XERTE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We've not done it here - but if you hit problems let us know. The config.php and session files are called on almost every page so could check for IPs? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 03 February 2011 14:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] SSL with XERTE Has anyone out there applied SSL to a xerte install or do you only have your institutional installs available from within your networks? We are trying to apply SSL are notsure how you do this with Xerte. Can anyone help? Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 15:48:52 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You could change the rlm to allow for it? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 03 February 2011 11:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen Is it possible that when you upload a FLV video into an LO that you can make it full screen? I am new to Xerte and it seems to only appear in the top right of the screen? ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 16:08:23 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:08:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Where do you change those settings for the Rim? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 03 February 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen You could change the rlm to allow for it? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 03 February 2011 11:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen Is it possible that when you upload a FLV video into an LO that you can make it full screen? I am new to Xerte and it seems to only appear in the top right of the screen? ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 18:30:39 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa_Roca?=) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:30:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Hi all Message-ID: <029701cbc3d0$76123630$6236a290$@com> Hello everybody, I have a question regarding the attachment in a SCORM package. The question is if it is possible to ?embed? a document (ppt, pdf, xls, doc) inside it and create a link to it from an activity but with the document inside the package. Thanks in advance! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 20:36:33 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:36:33 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi all In-Reply-To: <029701cbc3d0$76123630$6236a290$@com> References: <029701cbc3d0$76123630$6236a290$@com> Message-ID: Xerte creates scorm packages of all it's media. So it should be in the package? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Roca [mgarciaroca at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:30 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hi all Hello everybody, I have a question regarding the attachment in a SCORM package. The question is if it is possible to ?embed? a document (ppt, pdf, xls, doc) inside it and create a link to it from an activity but with the document inside the package. Thanks in advance! From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 07:03:29 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 02:03:29 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Easy. >> >> >> >> Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it >> directly with the Sound object?s methods >> >> >> >> myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn >> *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> >> >> I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to >> dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like >> hubris. >> >> Today everything is different. >> >> I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to >> loop and the button to toggle it on and off >> >> It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. >> >> mySoundIcon.play(); >> >> However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to >> play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even >> stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it >> from script more than one time. >> >> Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just >> went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. >> >> Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so >> this always returns undefined. >> >> Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. >> >> Thanks! >> ma >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 09:26:05 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:26:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that's the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object's methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 09:49:28 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:49:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE91C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You need to figure out how to do it first. This is the flvPlayback component and I don't see native methods to do the full screen thing. I *think* the way it is done is to make the flv the size of the movie and then make the movie full screen, but I've never tried it in AS2. I know there are better ways of doing this in Flex / AS3.0 -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 03 February 2011 16:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen Thank you, Where do you change those settings for the Rim? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 03 February 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen You could change the rlm to allow for it? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 03 February 2011 11:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Xerte] FLV Vdieos to appear full screen Is it possible that when you upload a FLV video into an LO that you can make it full screen? I am new to Xerte and it seems to only appear in the top right of the screen? ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 10:01:45 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:01:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 10:04:59 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:04:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 11:09:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:09:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html There's some as3.0 code here: http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 11:52:48 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:52:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Update to the Xerte 3.0 installer is on the website. Use Flex SDK 19786 from http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+Hero (I had to edit flex-config.xml and put in the 10.2 bit of the path to playerglobal.swc - in this build static-link-libraries is true already). Get Flash Player 10.2 debugger (was included in the SDK build 18623) and run it once so the system knows where to find it. Install the players for your browsers. This isn't the release version of Flex 4.5, but I sense it's getting close. Have fun. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 11:45:07 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:45:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html There's some as3.0 code here: http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 11:54:49 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:54:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html There's some as3.0 code here: http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 12:21:19 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:21:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > and makes it reusable... I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. Fred From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 12:31:45 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Wondering about highlighting for accessibility - a short cut key relating to mouse position maybe? *paging techdis paging techdis* -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html There's some as3.0 code here: http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:11:05 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Quite. You have to do: Constuctor: 1. A man building something 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > and makes it reusable... I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:12:42 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:12:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think you have to try and do it the way text is usually selected with the keyboard: by moving the caret, and holding down shift. The programming challenge is how to get the selected word because as soon as you click the 'get def' button, the textfield loses focus... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 12:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Wondering about highlighting for accessibility - a short cut key relating to mouse position maybe? *paging techdis paging techdis* -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html There's some as3.0 code here: http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is the answer an "oracle" system? With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point Could easily support multiple definitions -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From AMH at ssfc.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:15:29 2011 From: AMH at ssfc.ac.uk (Andrew Hardy) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:15:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] iframe References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3 F02CE0BE9F3@ EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1EDA@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Does anyone know of a way to embed an arbitrary iFrame in a Xertes Toolkit Page? Andy This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:16:22 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:16:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: iframe In-Reply-To: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1EDA@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3 F02CE0BE9F3@ EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1EDA@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAEC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can't. Best you can do is link off to the page. It's a flash player thing. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Hardy Sent: 04 February 2011 13:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] iframe Does anyone know of a way to embed an arbitrary iFrame in a Xertes Toolkit Page? Andy This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:17:24 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0 2CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Soon as you highlight put it into a js variable? > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:12:42 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I think you have to try and do it the way text is usually selected with the keyboard: by moving the caret, and holding down shift. > > The programming challenge is how to get the selected word because as soon as you click the 'get def' button, the textfield loses focus... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Wondering about highlighting for accessibility - a short cut key relating to mouse position maybe? > > *paging techdis paging techdis* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. > > Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: > > http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html > > There's some as3.0 code here: > http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 > > Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Is the answer an "oracle" system? > > With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. > > So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? > > To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point > > Could easily support multiple definitions > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. > > Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. > > Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. > > Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. > > Cheers > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:18:42 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:18:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0 2CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Onkeydown event on all words? Track the selection by using detection of the arrow keys? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Soon as you highlight put it into a js variable? > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:12:42 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I think you have to try and do it the way text is usually selected with the keyboard: by moving the caret, and holding down shift. > > The programming challenge is how to get the selected word because as soon as you click the 'get def' button, the textfield loses focus... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Wondering about highlighting for accessibility - a short cut key relating to mouse position maybe? > > *paging techdis paging techdis* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. > > Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: > > http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html > > There's some as3.0 code here: > http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 > > Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Is the answer an "oracle" system? > > With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. > > So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? > > To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point > > Could easily support multiple definitions > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. > > Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. > > Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. > > Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. > > Cheers > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:20:10 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:20:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0 2CE0BE9F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA66@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> In toolkits it's done by the textfields getting some handlers to track Selection.getSelection() and store the string if != null From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 13:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Onkeydown event on all words? Track the selection by using detection of the arrow keys? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Soon as you highlight put it into a js variable? > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:12:42 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I think you have to try and do it the way text is usually selected with the keyboard: by moving the caret, and holding down shift. > > The programming challenge is how to get the selected word because as soon as you click the 'get def' button, the textfield loses focus... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Wondering about highlighting for accessibility - a short cut key relating to mouse position maybe? > > *paging techdis paging techdis* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Well you could do that now as you could get a definition, and then highlight words in the definition and then... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:45 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > There is that horrible javascript script that some web pages have where you hover over certain words and huge bubble appears with info on that word. > > Highlighting every word would be useful, and going back to the real goal hypertext was supposed to achieve. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 11:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Google has a dictionary but the API is closed: > > http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-googles-unofficial-dictionary-api.html > > There's some as3.0 code here: > http://code.google.com/p/googleas3api/source/browse/branches/GoogleAPI_v3_RC/src/be/boulevart/google/api/dictionary/GoogleDictionary.as?r=52 > > Doesn't seem to be supported by Google though, so use it at your own risk. It does seem to be multi-language. Be interesting to see if you could build a piece where the user can highlight any word in the text, and get a definition. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:05 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Is the answer an "oracle" system? > > With an oracle system, you get a definition by contributing a definition. > > So each toolkits has a glossary page - you can request a definition, but also, all your definitions of new words are added to the system dynamically as you create the template? > > To help seed the system - advise on other services as a starting point > > Could easily support multiple definitions > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 February 2011 10:02 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, and makes it reusable... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 03 February 2011 13:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > Like I said, it sounds like one of those beautifully simple ideas that > > if no one else has done we ought to do. It would fit well with the > > whole xpert / open Nottingham agenda. > > Perhaps, but it would be an enormous project to create a public 'glossary of everything'. There are tens of thousands of nouns in English alone, and many of them would have different definitions in different contexts (off the top of my head - silicon, logic, up, spin, chip). You'd need a massive database to store definitions and tags and relations. Not to mention the aggravation of contributors fighting over wording. Essentially, you'd be creating a new dictionary from scratch, but without the 'extra bits' and of relatively limited application compared to dictionaries. > > Maybe an XPERT-style aggregation approach might be more productive, if you could find individual glossaries with APIs/feeds you could harvest. > > Worth a try, and a useful project I'm sure, but you might run into 'reinventing the wheel' criticism. > > Cheers > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:21:06 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:21:06 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:22:19 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:29:28 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:29:28 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:30:06 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:30:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:32:46 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:32:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Duh *slaps self* I just remembered Open Calais It's not quite the droid you are looking for - http://www.opencalais.com/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:34:40 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0, 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No, they can add their own if they don't like the existing. But if you highlight a word and you get a list of the existing taxa, wouldn't it be self refining? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:30:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceThen you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:40:54 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:40:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEB10@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That made me laugh. We want to make all the world's content more accessible, interoperable and valuable. Some call it Web 2.0, Web 3.0, the Semantic Web or the Giant Global Graph - we call our piece of it... ...Calais. It's a bit like We want to bring world peace, international cooperation, eradicate disease and educate the masses. We are called... ...Skegness From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 13:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Duh *slaps self* I just remembered Open Calais It's not quite the droid you are looking for - http://www.opencalais.com/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 13:50:31 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:50:31 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEB10@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0, 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEB10@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Bognor Regis From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:40:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service That made me laugh.We want to make all the world's content more accessible, interoperable and valuable. Some call it Web 2.0, Web 3.0, the Semantic Web or the Giant Global Graph - we call our piece of it? ?Calais.It?s a bit likeWe want to bring world peace, international cooperation, eradicate disease and educate the masses. We are called??Skegness From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 13:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Duh *slaps self* I just remembered Open Calais It?s not quite the droid you are looking for - http://www.opencalais.com/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceThen you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:51:16 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:51:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEB10@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEB10@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I like silly names though. All my own projects have odd names, and I always call Xpert Bertha. After this - http://80scartoons.co.uk/bertha/bertha1.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service That made me laugh. We want to make all the world's content more accessible, interoperable and valuable. Some call it Web 2.0, Web 3.0, the Semantic Web or the Giant Global Graph - we call our piece of it... ...Calais. It's a bit like We want to bring world peace, international cooperation, eradicate disease and educate the masses. We are called... ...Skegness From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 13:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Duh *slaps self* I just remembered Open Calais It's not quite the droid you are looking for - http://www.opencalais.com/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 14:12:25 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:12:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB46CF@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? Definitely not! With my slightly tatty and dusty languages hat on, I can assure you that you're getting into very deep and turbulent water with that question ;) Cheers Fred From aott at glam.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 14:25:42 2011 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:25:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B09DE@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Brilliant this worked - many thanks for your help. Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 01 February 2011 18:30 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 14 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:29:43 +0000 From: "Ott A (AT)" To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" Subject: [Xerte] 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators Message-ID: <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B053E at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Many thanks Mary Ann. Your suggestions made me go back to what I was trying to do. It sounds exactly what I was looking for, but I am still struggling to work out Your Point 2, i.e. where to find the location of the script that gets executed when each tab is pressed. Could you please let me know the location for the tab navigator (and I can find the equivalent for the accordion)? Your point 1: Once I exported the accordion pages, in the folder for the learning object in the models subfolder I opened accNav (your equivalent would be tabNav). Above the accInteraction icon (equivalent to tabInteraction), I inserted the sound icon, etc. and added the sound file to the media subfolder. I think this is the same as you described. Your point 2. I do not seem to be able to find the page or file with the script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed. I tried a few places at random, e.g. makeTabs, and managed to make the sound file play but never associated with the particular page. So there is something that I am missing. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 31 January 2011 21:03 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) 2. Re: Drag and drops (Dave Burnett) 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Mary Ann Ahearn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:29:04 -0500 From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" daa. I abandoned the button idea and just have a text field set to scroll auto. Now of course I can't scroll the text because the drag hand overrides the scroll component. Sigh. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:24:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Interesting ? that ought to work. Is it a timing issue ? try making the button, then disabling, then when you know it?s actually disablerd, try making the interaction with it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 16:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops If I hand code it, yes. No luck with: buttonid~leave~0 or buttonrs~leave~0 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:20:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and dropsSorry ? should have read it all. It?s a movieclip ? it should do all the things movieclips do Btn.startDrag()? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 31 January 2011 15:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Can a button be draggable? Tried id and rs and no joy. Disabled the button first. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:36 -0500 From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Drag and drops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, is this a possibility: I figure the scrollbar is hot because it is create as a child of the text icon when scrolling is set as a property. Can I create the scrollbar as a child of some other icon and set the target as the text icon text field? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:23:43 -0500 From: Mary Ann Ahearn To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I managed to put a narration on each tab of a page created with the tab navigation template. Haven't used the accordion template at all but I have to think it's somewhat similar. Did this after the page was created. 1 - Put a sound icon on the page somewhere above the tab interaction icon. In this example it plays a narration that introduces the page at first, and its id is "VO". 2 - Then in the script that gets executed when each of the tabs is pressed add 3 lines of code: VO.pause(); VO.loadSound(FileLocation + 'media/narration_01.mp3'); VO.play(); All you have to do is change the sound file that's referenced in the script for each tab and there you have it. Seems to work fine. Should be easily adaptable for the accordion interaction. Hope this answer is at least somewhat related to your question. -ma On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Ott A (AT) wrote: > Many thanks - I will give it a go. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 31 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:29:53 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B03B2 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > Xerte. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Thanks Julian, > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure of > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct advantage. > > Cheers, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > Math.exp(number) > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > Cheers. > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > I'm gapping at the moment. > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > No, > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:48:41 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AB8D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'd look at creating your own version of the accordion navigator page that > adds in the functionality you want. The other .rlms are useful sources of > how to do various things, so best place to start would be with a copy of the > accordion model and look at the bits that add the content for the > accordion's panes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 31 January 2011 11:30 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Good thanks, yes I am up for a challenge. Any guidance of where to start > would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with html and some javascript but > know little about actionscript. I intended to learn this as part of using > Xerte. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 29 January 2011 12:00 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:42:06 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD719D at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It needs someone to develop the functionality, so it's not "no it's not > possible at all". Are you up for a coding challenge? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 28 January 2011 14:33 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Thanks Julian, > > Is this an absolute No it is not possible? Could I create the Accordion > page, export it, import it to the development tool and add the code for > narration to the individual pages? I would like to build up a structure of > criminal versus civil law; and the narration on the individual pages as > opposed to the narration for the whole pages would be a distinct advantage. > > Cheers, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 27 January 2011 16:02 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators (Ott A (AT)) > 2. Re: Eval string (Dave Burnett) > 3. Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > (Julian Tenney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:47:52 +0000 > From: "Ott A (AT)" > To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > Message-ID: > <0583CB09BCEA134BBAE4C60538F8980D0E8B01B4 at MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/b1422bae/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:56:11 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hadn't used it before, and the code hint that comes up for expression( is > Math.exp(number) > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:38:31 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string > > > > str = 'FileLocation';debug(expression(str,this)); //this == > _level0.engineFrom: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:20 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval string Daa. > Was leaving out the _level0.engine. > > Cheers. > > > > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:58:11 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Eval stringexpression(string, _level0.engine) From: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:55 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Eval string > I'm gapping at the moment. > > taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound > > originally came in as a string to set the node xml: > > "Filelocation + 'media\blah.mp3'" > > How do I eval that so it works in a direct set of the clip: > > > common_sound.loadSound(taskData.group[groups.getPageIndex()].sound[0].sound); > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/05e52669/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:52:49 +0000 > From: Julian Tenney > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration for nested pages in Accordion > Navigators > Message-ID: > < > 12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD6CEA at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > No, > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT) > Sent: 27 January 2011 15:48 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Narration for nested pages in Accordion Navigators > > Hi > > Over the last two weeks, I have started to use the Xerte online toolkit in > the JISC sandpit area with the aim to use Xerte to support a work-based > learning project at Glamorgan University. > > Is it possible to add narration to the individual nested pages when > creating an Accordion Navigator, using the toolkit templates? > > Many thanks, Alex. > > Alexandra Ott > Instructional Designer > The Professional Academy > Faculty of Advanced Technology > University of Glamorgan > CF37 1DL > Room G244 > Tel: 01443 482206 > aott at glam.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/attachments/20110127/5393f920/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 9, Issue 116 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 ************************************ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 10, Issue 14 ************************************* From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 14:39:36 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:39:36 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 14:41:52 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:41:52 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5,9DA 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Tell me more... Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:39:36 +0000 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceThen you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 15:01:34 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Let see if we can define 'quality'... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 15:05:03 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:05:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB46CF@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA 31562C3F0 2CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB46CF@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBC4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It shouldn't stop the idea progressing, if the idea is a good one. We'll just un-ask the question. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley Sent: 04 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? Definitely not! With my slightly tatty and dusty languages hat on, I can assure you that you're getting into very deep and turbulent water with that question ;) Cheers Fred _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 15:10:01 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:10:01 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA, 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think we're away from the original thought though. "In a general sense, a glossary contains explanations of concepts relevant to a certain field of study or action." So by definition a glossary is context based. If no context fits your particular application, make one up. No one else will use it, but it is useful to you. fabric:quality cannabis:quality The koala tea of Mersey is not strained. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Let see if we can define ?quality?? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceThen you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 15:15:39 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:15:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA, 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It would work well enough to have the context related to a school in the University. We have 40 odd schools, covering most branches of knowledge, so Computer Science:constructor and Built Environment:constructor are different. Of course there may be different meanings within a school, but their students would probably benefit from seeing the other meanings in the context of the one searched for, and the glossary could allow them to explore the other domains as well. myglossary.php?word=constructor&context=compSci That would work perfectly well enough to progress the idea. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I think we're away from the original thought though. "In a general sense, a glossary contains explanations of concepts relevant to a certain field of study or action." So by definition a glossary is context based. If no context fits your particular application, make one up. No one else will use it, but it is useful to you. fabric:quality cannabis:quality The koala tea of Mersey is not strained. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Let see if we can define 'quality'... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 15:26:36 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:26:36 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA,,31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Or the Dewey decimal analog maybe? word=constructor&context=000.4352.7 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:15:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service It would work well enough to have the context related to a school in the University. We have 40 odd schools, covering most branches of knowledge, so Computer Science:constructor and Built Environment:constructor are different. Of course there may be different meanings within a school, but their students would probably benefit from seeing the other meanings in the context of the one searched for, and the glossary could allow them to explore the other domains as well. myglossary.php?word=constructor&context=compSci That would work perfectly well enough to progress the idea. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 15:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service I think we're away from the original thought though. "In a general sense, a glossary contains explanations of concepts relevant to a certain field of study or action." So by definition a glossary is context based. If no context fits your particular application, make one up. No one else will use it, but it is useful to you. fabric:quality cannabis:quality The koala tea of Mersey is not strained. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceLet see if we can define ?quality?? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web ServiceThen you need an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 15:56:55 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:56:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Score. That's my favourite road, it's somewhere in Nevada right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 16:01:40 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before > the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the > sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle > onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right > approach. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte > 2 desktop > > > > Hi Julian, > > Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had > time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy > for you as the last one was. > > soundIcon.sound.stop(); > soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); > > soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); > > > > > Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play > the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf > file that loads it with this: > attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); > > But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my > flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the > other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. > > Any ideas as to what's going on? > > Thanks a million! > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: > > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 16:10:03 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] textbox - scrolling - auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA,,31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I start out with short bit of text that would not need scrolling. There are hyperlinks in the text that effectively gets what's in the text box, appends more info and then sets it back: tbl_feedback_text_panel.setText('longer string'); I have the TB set scrolling="auto"; But it doesn't scroll after the longer string is set. ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 16:14:31 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:14:31 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object?s methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 4 16:41:24 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2C67A1EE C419342AF5E 5 9DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes! It leads to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico (that's a real town). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Score. That's my favourite road, it's somewhere in Nevada right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 16:41:31 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:41:31 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2C67A1EE C419342AF5E 5 9DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nerd fact - its cactus jack's home town :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 February 2011 16:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Yes! It leads to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico (that's a real town). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Score. That's my favourite road, it's somewhere in Nevada right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Only way not to make a hash of it. If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application. Let then pick from the available. Doesn't exist, let them add it. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 13:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter: programming:constructor Else they get the whole list. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > Quite. You have to do: > > Constuctor: > 1. A man building something > 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP > > Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple... > > The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley > Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service > > > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of > > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often > > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or > > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a > > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and > > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that > > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and > > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content, > > and makes it reusable... > > I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. > > I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 16:54:25 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5 9DA,,31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I need to relook at this, but you can manually enable the scroll: id.enableScroll(true); the engine really ought to do it... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] textbox - scrolling - auto I start out with short bit of text that would not need scrolling. There are hyperlinks in the text that effectively gets what's in the text box, appends more info and then sets it back: tbl_feedback_text_panel.setText('longer string'); I have the TB set scrolling="auto"; But it doesn't scroll after the longer string is set. ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 16:56:31 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > onLoad event > fdoSound(myargs); > > ?? > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. > > But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for > each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a > named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in > xerte, right? > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before > the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the > sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle > onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right > approach. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte > 2 desktop > > > > Hi Julian, > > Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had > time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy > for you as the last one was. > > soundIcon.sound.stop(); > soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); > > soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); > > > > > Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play > the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf > file that loads it with this: > attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); > > But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my > flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the > other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. > > Any ideas as to what's going on? > > Thanks a million! > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: > > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 16:57:45 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:57:45 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5, 9DA, , 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I never know when the additional string(s) will exceed the height. auto would be nice. Else I guess there's getTextExtent. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto I need to relook at this, but you can manually enable the scroll: id.enableScroll(true); the engine really ought to do it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] textbox - scrolling - auto I start out with short bit of text that would not need scrolling. There are hyperlinks in the text that effectively gets what's in the text box, appends more info and then sets it back: tbl_feedback_text_panel.setText('longer string'); I have the TB set scrolling="auto"; But it doesn't scroll after the longer string is set. ?? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 16:58:57 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:58:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5, 9DA, , 31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECAE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, I know, give me a minute.... Use attached. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto I never know when the additional string(s) will exceed the height. auto would be nice. Else I guess there's getTextExtent. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto I need to relook at this, but you can manually enable the scroll: id.enableScroll(true); the engine really ought to do it... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] textbox - scrolling - auto I start out with short bit of text that would not need scrolling. There are hyperlinks in the text that effectively gets what's in the text box, appends more info and then sets it back: tbl_feedback_text_panel.setText('longer string'); I have the TB set scrolling="auto"; But it doesn't scroll after the longer string is set. ?? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XMLEngine.swf Type: application/x-shockwave-flash Size: 144765 bytes Desc: XMLEngine.swf URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 17:02:20 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:02:20 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny things happen, especially to the args[] From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object?s methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 17:02:13 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:02:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Right, I really am going home now... See attached. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 16:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett > wrote: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? ________________________________ From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that's the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object's methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sound.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 2863213 bytes Desc: sound.zip URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 17:23:38 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:23:38 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECAE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EE C419342AF5E5, 9DA, ,,31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBBC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEBE3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BECAE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sorry, didn't mean to gripe. Works a treat. Cheers. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:58:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto Yes, I know, give me a minute?. Use attached. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - auto I never know when the additional string(s) will exceed the height. auto would be nice. Else I guess there's getTextExtent. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: textbox - scrolling - autoI need to relook at this, but you can manually enable the scroll: id.enableScroll(true); the engine really ought to do it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 16:10 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] textbox - scrolling - auto I start out with short bit of text that would not need scrolling. There are hyperlinks in the text that effectively gets what's in the text box, appends more info and then sets it back: tbl_feedback_text_panel.setText('longer string'); I have the TB set scrolling="auto"; But it doesn't scroll after the longer string is set. ?? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 17:28:31 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. > > _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); > > If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny > things happen, especially to the args[] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a > flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts > work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't > investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer > of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a > real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. > > Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. > > Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate > script but that magic didn't work. > > Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that > actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started > down this path. > > hmmmm... I'll play around with this. > Thanks > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > onLoad event > fdoSound(myargs); > > ?? > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. > > But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for > each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a > named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in > xerte, right? > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before > the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the > sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle > onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right > approach. > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte > 2 desktop > > > > Hi Julian, > > Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had > time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy > for you as the last one was. > > soundIcon.sound.stop(); > soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); > > soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); > > > > > Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play > the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf > file that loads it with this: > attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); > > But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my > flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the > other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. > > Any ideas as to what's going on? > > Thanks a million! > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: > > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 17:46:08 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:46:08 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , Message-ID: I'm looking in the engine .fla trying to deconstruct the sound thingy. From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny things happen, especially to the args[] From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object?s methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 18:39:49 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The calls are very simple and I'm working on a flash component to handle it. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > I'm looking in the engine .fla trying to deconstruct the sound thingy. > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that > handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop > functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would > load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. > Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. > > This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. > > _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); > > If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny > things happen, especially to the args[] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a > flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts > work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't > investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer > of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a > real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. > > Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. > > Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate > script but that magic didn't work. > > Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that > actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started > down this path. > > hmmmm... I'll play around with this. > Thanks > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > onLoad event > fdoSound(myargs); > > ?? > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. > > But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for > each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a > named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in > xerte, right? > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before > the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the > sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle > onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right > approach. > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte > 2 desktop > > > > Hi Julian, > > Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had > time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy > for you as the last one was. > > soundIcon.sound.stop(); > soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); > > soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); > > > > > Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play > the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf > file that loads it with this: > attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); > > But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my > flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the > other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. > > Any ideas as to what's going on? > > Thanks a million! > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: > > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 18:43:34 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:34 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , Message-ID: fast forward/back and scrub bar? From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:49 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop The calls are very simple and I'm working on a flash component to handle it. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: I'm looking in the engine .fla trying to deconstruct the sound thingy. From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny things happen, especially to the args[] From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks maOn Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object?s methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryann at moberg.com Fri Feb 4 18:58:11 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:58:11 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nope, just play/stop looped sounds on button press. Sound files will be determined by code. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > fast forward/back and scrub bar? > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:49 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > The calls are very simple and I'm working on a flash component to handle > it. > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > I'm looking in the engine .fla trying to deconstruct the sound thingy. > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that > handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop > functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would > load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. > Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. > > This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. > > _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); > > If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny > things happen, especially to the args[] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a > flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts > work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't > investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer > of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a > real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. > > Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. > > Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate > script but that magic didn't work. > > Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that > actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started > down this path. > > hmmmm... I'll play around with this. > Thanks > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > > onLoad event > fdoSound(myargs); > > ?? > > ------------------------------ > From: maryann at moberg.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. > > But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for > each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a > named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in > xerte, right? > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before > the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the > sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle > onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right > approach. > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte > 2 desktop > > > > Hi Julian, > > Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had > time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy > for you as the last one was. > > soundIcon.sound.stop(); > soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); > > soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); > > > > > Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play > the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf > file that loads it with this: > attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); > > But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my > flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the > other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. > > Any ideas as to what's going on? > > Thanks a million! > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: > > Indeed it is! > Thanks > ma > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < > Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > > Easy. > > > > Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it > directly with the Sound object?s methods > > > > myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn > *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 > desktop > > > > I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to > dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like > hubris. > > Today everything is different. > > I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to > loop and the button to toggle it on and off > > It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. > > mySoundIcon.play(); > > However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play > =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it > and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script > more than one time. > > Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just > went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. > > Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so > this always returns undefined. > > Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. > > Thanks! > ma > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please > send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily > reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been > checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain > software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 4 18:47:15 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:47:15 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2C67A1E E C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: You? A nerd? I never would have guessed! J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:42 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Nerd fact - its cactus jack's home town J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 February 2011 16:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Yes! It leads to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico (that's a real town). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Score. That's my favourite road, it's somewhere in Nevada right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 19:36:17 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:36:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2C67A1E E C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , Message-ID: i remember back in the nineties when I heard some one say Truth or Consequences, and I thought that is the coolest town name ever :) ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson [Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:47 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service You? A nerd? I never would have guessed! ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:42 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Nerd fact ? its cactus jack?s home town ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 February 2011 16:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Yes! It leads to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico (that?s a real town). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Score. That?s my favourite road, it?s somewhere in Nevada right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 04 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 13:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words? From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 4 20:03:20 2011 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:03:20 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2C67A1E E C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> Wow it's great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I'm wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I'd like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 4 21:11:10 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:10 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2 C67A1EE C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> Message-ID: I pass information from Xerte to a PHP script that, after saving information to a MySQL database, uses an FPDF library to create a PDF certificate that the user downloads and can print or save. In Xerte, I have a script icon that runs after the quiz is taken. This runs whether or not the user passes. // url of PHP script URLString = 'http://myDomain/pathToScript/db_queries.php'; // pass values to external script saveVars = new LoadVars (); saveVars.action = 'saveData'; saveVars.sid = student.id; saveVars.totCorrect = totCorrect; saveVars.quesCount = quesCount; saveVars.testTries = student.testTries; saveVars.testStartDate = student.testStartDate; saveVars.score = score; saveVars.pass = scorePath; // scorePath will be 0 if score < 80, otherwise it will be 1 saveVars.complete = scorePath; // only set complete to 1 if student passed saveVars.institution = student.institution; saveVars.email = student.email; saveVars.name = student.fname + ' ' + student.lname; saveVars.product = productName; saveVars.courseName = courseTitle; // send to db testScore.sendAndLoadVars(URLString, saveVars); Then, my PHP script has (among other things): // pass -- boolean indicating whether student passed if (isset ($_POST['pass']) && is_numeric ($_POST['pass'])) { $pass = (int) $_POST['pass']; // if $pass == 1 set active to 0 (false) so user would have to re-register to take again if ($pass == 1) { $active = 0; // need to send email with certificate // must have courseName, student name, institution, completion date and email if (isset ($_POST['courseName'], $_POST['name'], $_POST['institution'], $_POST['email'])) { $completion_date = date ('m/d/Y'); $url = 'http://' . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . '/wbt/certificate_link.php?'; $certCourseTitle = ($_POST['product'] == 'SBA Lending Solution' ? 'SBA Lending Solution' : $_POST['courseName']); $qString = "courseName=$certCourseTitle&name={$_POST['name']}&company={$_POST['institution']}&completionDate=$completion_date"; // encrypt $qString $rc4 = new rc4crypt; $encString = $rc4->endecrypt('someCipherSalt',$qString); $to = "{$_POST['email']}"; $from = "Education at example.com\r\n"; $headers = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n"; $headers .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n"; $headers .= "From: $from\r\n"; $subject = "Certificate of Completion for {$_POST['product']} {$_POST['courseName']}"; $body = "

Congratulations on passing the {$_POST['product']}® {$_POST['courseName']}!

A Certificate of Completion for you is waiting at this link. Recertification is required after one year.

When you open the link, you will be asked whether to open or save the file. If you select Open, be sure to save the file after viewing or printing.

"; $mail_success = mail ($to, $subject, $body, $headers, "-fEducation at example.com"); The encryption code is something I copied from the FPDF library. The script that creates the PDF file after the user clicks the encrypted link in their email: endecrypt('someCipherSalt', $_GET['data'], 'de'); $qString = $deString; // parse string into parts parse_str ($qString); // convert date $date = date ('F jS, Y', strtotime ($completionDate)); } // end of $_GET['data'] conditional // create pdf if required fields present if ($course && $name && $company && $date) { $pdf = new FPDF_Protection(); $pdf->SetProtection(array('print'),'','somePassword'); // restrict to view and print, no user password, owner password needed to edit doc $pdf->SetMargins(72,96,72); $pdf->SetLineWidth(20); $pdf->SetDrawColor(0, 128, 0); $pdf->SetFillColor(197, 255, 197); $pdf->AddPage(); $pdf->Rect(0, 0, 790, 610, 'DF'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('Times', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(36); $pdf->Cell(0, 48, 'Certificate of Completion', 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$name", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "of", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$company", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(20); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "has achieved certification in", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); // modify course name if $course == 'SBA Lending Solution' if ($course == 'SBA Lending Solution Exam') { $pdf->Cell(120, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(225, 24, 'SBA Lending Solution', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, ' Exam', 0, 1, 'L'); } else { $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(92, 24, 'LaserPro', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, $course, 0, 1, 'L'); } $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "on", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$date", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Image('hfs_hc_background.png', 100, 465, 207, 32, 'png'); $pdf->Image('cert_sig.png', 400, 460, 285, 80, 'png'); // create file if $certDest and $certFile exist, otherwise display in browser if ($certDest && $certFile) { $pdf->Output($certDest . $certFile . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', "F"); } else { //$pdf->Output(); $pdf->Output('LaserPro_' . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', 'D'); } } else { echo "

Required data missing, no file created.

\n\n"; } ?> FPDF can be found here: http://www.fpdf.org/ Of course, all this requires that your course is on the web, your web server has PHP installed and configured and you've installed the FPDF library. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:03 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Wow it's great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I'm wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I'd like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 4 21:39:41 2011 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:41 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2 C67A1EE C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> Message-ID: <002a01cbc4b4$08968270$19c38750$@com> Thanks Paul! You?ve done some work on this obviously! RonM2 From: Paul Swanson [mailto:Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:11 PM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed I pass information from Xerte to a PHP script that, after saving information to a MySQL database, uses an FPDF library to create a PDF certificate that the user downloads and can print or save. In Xerte, I have a script icon that runs after the quiz is taken. This runs whether or not the user passes. // url of PHP script URLString = 'http://myDomain/pathToScript/db_queries.php'; // pass values to external script saveVars = new LoadVars (); saveVars.action = 'saveData'; saveVars.sid = student.id; saveVars.totCorrect = totCorrect; saveVars.quesCount = quesCount; saveVars.testTries = student.testTries; saveVars.testStartDate = student.testStartDate; saveVars.score = score; saveVars.pass = scorePath; // scorePath will be 0 if score < 80, otherwise it will be 1 saveVars.complete = scorePath; // only set complete to 1 if student passed saveVars.institution = student.institution; saveVars.email = student.email; saveVars.name = student.fname + ' ' + student.lname; saveVars.product = productName; saveVars.courseName = courseTitle; // send to db testScore.sendAndLoadVars(URLString, saveVars); Then, my PHP script has (among other things): // pass -- boolean indicating whether student passed if (isset ($_POST['pass']) && is_numeric ($_POST['pass'])) { $pass = (int) $_POST['pass']; // if $pass == 1 set active to 0 (false) so user would have to re-register to take again if ($pass == 1) { $active = 0; // need to send email with certificate // must have courseName, student name, institution, completion date and email if (isset ($_POST['courseName'], $_POST['name'], $_POST['institution'], $_POST['email'])) { $completion_date = date ('m/d/Y'); $url = 'http://' . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . '/wbt/certificate_link.php?'; $certCourseTitle = ($_POST['product'] == 'SBA Lending Solution' ? 'SBA Lending Solution' : $_POST['courseName']); $qString = "courseName=$certCourseTitle&name={$_POST['name']}&company={$_POST['institut ion']}&completionDate=$completion_date"; // encrypt $qString $rc4 = new rc4crypt; $encString = $rc4->endecrypt('someCipherSalt',$qString); $to = "{$_POST['email']}"; $from = "Education at example.com\r\n"; $headers = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n"; $headers .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n"; $headers .= "From: $from\r\n"; $subject = "Certificate of Completion for {$_POST['product']} {$_POST['courseName']}"; $body = "

Congratulations on passing the {$_POST['product']}® {$_POST['courseName']}!

A Certificate of Completion for you is waiting at this link. Recertification is required after one year.

When you open the link, you will be asked whether to open or save the file. If you select Open, be sure to save the file after viewing or printing.

"; $mail_success = mail ($to, $subject, $body, $headers, "-fEducation at example.com"); The encryption code is something I copied from the FPDF library. The script that creates the PDF file after the user clicks the encrypted link in their email: endecrypt('someCipherSalt', $_GET['data'], 'de'); $qString = $deString; // parse string into parts parse_str ($qString); // convert date $date = date ('F jS, Y', strtotime ($completionDate)); } // end of $_GET['data'] conditional // create pdf if required fields present if ($course && $name && $company && $date) { $pdf = new FPDF_Protection(); $pdf->SetProtection(array('print'),'','somePassword'); // restrict to view and print, no user password, owner password needed to edit doc $pdf->SetMargins(72,96,72); $pdf->SetLineWidth(20); $pdf->SetDrawColor(0, 128, 0); $pdf->SetFillColor(197, 255, 197); $pdf->AddPage(); $pdf->Rect(0, 0, 790, 610, 'DF'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('Times', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(36); $pdf->Cell(0, 48, 'Certificate of Completion', 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$name", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "of", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$company", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(20); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "has achieved certification in", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); // modify course name if $course == 'SBA Lending Solution' if ($course == 'SBA Lending Solution Exam') { $pdf->Cell(120, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(225, 24, 'SBA Lending Solution', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, ' Exam', 0, 1, 'L'); } else { $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(92, 24, 'LaserPro', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, $course, 0, 1, 'L'); } $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "on", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$date", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Image('hfs_hc_background.png', 100, 465, 207, 32, 'png'); $pdf->Image('cert_sig.png', 400, 460, 285, 80, 'png'); // create file if $certDest and $certFile exist, otherwise display in browser if ($certDest && $certFile) { $pdf->Output($certDest . $certFile . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', "F"); } else { //$pdf->Output(); $pdf->Output('LaserPro_' . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', 'D'); } } else { echo "

Required data missing, no file created.

\n\n"; } ?> FPDF can be found here: http://www.fpdf.org/ Of course, all this requires that your course is on the web, your web server has PHP installed and configured and you?ve installed the FPDF library. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:03 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Wow it?s great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I?m wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I?d like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 22:29:19 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:29:19 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: <002a01cbc4b4$08968270$19c38750$@com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2 C67A1EE C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> , <002a01cbc4b4$08968270$19c38750$@com> Message-ID: am wondering if you could use an RLM to make a results page in the style of the PDF. Then autoprint? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:39 PM To: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Thanks Paul! You?ve done some work on this obviously! RonM2 From: Paul Swanson [mailto:Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:11 PM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed I pass information from Xerte to a PHP script that, after saving information to a MySQL database, uses an FPDF library to create a PDF certificate that the user downloads and can print or save. In Xerte, I have a script icon that runs after the quiz is taken. This runs whether or not the user passes. // url of PHP script URLString = 'http://myDomain/pathToScript/db_queries.php'; // pass values to external script saveVars = new LoadVars (); saveVars.action = 'saveData'; saveVars.sid = student.id; saveVars.totCorrect = totCorrect; saveVars.quesCount = quesCount; saveVars.testTries = student.testTries; saveVars.testStartDate = student.testStartDate; saveVars.score = score; saveVars.pass = scorePath; // scorePath will be 0 if score < 80, otherwise it will be 1 saveVars.complete = scorePath; // only set complete to 1 if student passed saveVars.institution = student.institution; saveVars.email = student.email; saveVars.name = student.fname + ' ' + student.lname; saveVars.product = productName; saveVars.courseName = courseTitle; // send to db testScore.sendAndLoadVars(URLString, saveVars); Then, my PHP script has (among other things): // pass -- boolean indicating whether student passed if (isset ($_POST['pass']) && is_numeric ($_POST['pass'])) { $pass = (int) $_POST['pass']; // if $pass == 1 set active to 0 (false) so user would have to re-register to take again if ($pass == 1) { $active = 0; // need to send email with certificate // must have courseName, student name, institution, completion date and email if (isset ($_POST['courseName'], $_POST['name'], $_POST['institution'], $_POST['email'])) { $completion_date = date ('m/d/Y'); $url = 'http://' . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . '/wbt/certificate_link.php?'; $certCourseTitle = ($_POST['product'] == 'SBA Lending Solution' ? 'SBA Lending Solution' : $_POST['courseName']); $qString = "courseName=$certCourseTitle&name={$_POST['name']}&company={$_POST['institution']}&completionDate=$completion_date"; // encrypt $qString $rc4 = new rc4crypt; $encString = $rc4->endecrypt('someCipherSalt',$qString); $to = "{$_POST['email']}"; $from = "Education at example.com\r\n"; $headers = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n"; $headers .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n"; $headers .= "From: $from\r\n"; $subject = "Certificate of Completion for {$_POST['product']} {$_POST['courseName']}"; $body = "

Congratulations on passing the {$_POST['product']}® {$_POST['courseName']}!

A Certificate of Completion for you is waiting at this link. Recertification is required after one year.

When you open the link, you will be asked whether to open or save the file. If you select Open, be sure to save the file after viewing or printing.

"; $mail_success = mail ($to, $subject, $body, $headers, "-fEducation at example.com"); The encryption code is something I copied from the FPDF library. The script that creates the PDF file after the user clicks the encrypted link in their email: endecrypt('someCipherSalt', $_GET['data'], 'de'); $qString = $deString; // parse string into parts parse_str ($qString); // convert date $date = date ('F jS, Y', strtotime ($completionDate)); } // end of $_GET['data'] conditional // create pdf if required fields present if ($course && $name && $company && $date) { $pdf = new FPDF_Protection(); $pdf->SetProtection(array('print'),'','somePassword'); // restrict to view and print, no user password, owner password needed to edit doc $pdf->SetMargins(72,96,72); $pdf->SetLineWidth(20); $pdf->SetDrawColor(0, 128, 0); $pdf->SetFillColor(197, 255, 197); $pdf->AddPage(); $pdf->Rect(0, 0, 790, 610, 'DF'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('Times', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(36); $pdf->Cell(0, 48, 'Certificate of Completion', 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$name", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "of", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$company", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(20); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "has achieved certification in", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); // modify course name if $course == 'SBA Lending Solution' if ($course == 'SBA Lending Solution Exam') { $pdf->Cell(120, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(225, 24, 'SBA Lending Solution', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, ' Exam', 0, 1, 'L'); } else { $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(92, 24, 'LaserPro', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, $course, 0, 1, 'L'); } $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "on", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$date", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Image('hfs_hc_background.png', 100, 465, 207, 32, 'png'); $pdf->Image('cert_sig.png', 400, 460, 285, 80, 'png'); // create file if $certDest and $certFile exist, otherwise display in browser if ($certDest && $certFile) { $pdf->Output($certDest . $certFile . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', "F"); } else { //$pdf->Output(); $pdf->Output('LaserPro_' . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', 'D'); } } else { echo "

Required data missing, no file created.

\n\n"; } ?> FPDF can be found here: http://www.fpdf.org/ Of course, all this requires that your course is on the web, your web server has PHP installed and configured and you?ve installed the FPDF library. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:03 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Wow it?s great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I?m wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I?d like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From maryann at moberg.com Sat Feb 5 00:45:03 2011 From: maryann at moberg.com (Mary Ann Ahearn) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:45:03 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Julian, I couldn't get the rlo you sent to work. The event never fired. Instead I got what I needed working as a flash component. Very simple. Thanks to Julian and Dave for all your help. Here's the code in case anyone needs something similar in the future. Works from a browser. The swf file is 1K in size! I love it. No need for a sound icon. Just the flash component (I called it soundPlayer) and these calls in respective button scripts: soundPlayer.playLoopedSound(FileLocation + 'media/mySound.mp3'); soundPlayer.stopLoopedSound(); function init(initObject) { //debug('init received'); } var my_sound:Sound = new Sound(); // if the sound loads, play it; my_sound.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) { if (success) { my_sound.start(0,1000); } }; function playLoopedSound(soundFileName) { //this can be directly called from Xerte script icons by IconID.myFunction(a,b,c); my_sound.stop(); my_sound.loadSound(soundFileName, false); } function stopLoopedSound() { //this can be directly called from Xerte script icons by IconID.myFunction(a,b,c); my_sound.stop(); } On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mary Ann Ahearn wrote: > Nope, just play/stop looped sounds on button press. Sound files will be > determined by code. > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: > >> fast forward/back and scrub bar? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: maryann at moberg.com >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:39:49 -0500 >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> The calls are very simple and I'm working on a flash component to handle >> it. >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> I'm looking in the engine .fla trying to deconstruct the sound thingy. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: maryann at moberg.com >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:31 -0500 >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> That gave me an idea - what about creating a little flash component that >> handles playing these troublesome sounds? It could have play and stop >> functions that get called on by a xerte button. The play function would >> load the mp3, and then handle onLoad as described in the documentation. >> Xerte wouldn't have to bother about anything except making the call. >> >> This seems like a tidy solution to me. Is there anything I'm overlooking? >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. >> >> _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); >> >> If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny >> things happen, especially to the args[] >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: maryann at moberg.com >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 >> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a >> flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts >> work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't >> investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer >> of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a >> real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. >> >> Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. >> >> Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate >> script but that magic didn't work. >> >> Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that >> actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started >> down this path. >> >> hmmmm... I'll play around with this. >> Thanks >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> >> onLoad event >> fdoSound(myargs); >> >> ?? >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: maryann at moberg.com >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. >> >> But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button >> for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining >> a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in >> xerte, right? >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney < >> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before >> the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the >> sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle >> onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that?s the right >> approach. >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn >> *Sent:* 04 February 2011 07:03 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte >> 2 desktop >> >> >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had >> time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy >> for you as the last one was. >> >> soundIcon.sound.stop(); >> soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); >> >> soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); >> >> >> >> >> Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play >> the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf >> file that loads it with this: >> attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); >> >> But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my >> flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the >> other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. >> >> Any ideas as to what's going on? >> >> Thanks a million! >> ma >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn >> wrote: >> >> Indeed it is! >> Thanks >> ma >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney < >> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> Easy. >> >> >> >> Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it >> directly with the Sound object?s methods >> >> >> >> myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mary Ann Ahearn >> *Sent:* 01 February 2011 15:53 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 >> desktop >> >> >> >> I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to >> dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like >> hubris. >> >> Today everything is different. >> >> I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to >> loop and the button to toggle it on and off >> >> It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. >> >> mySoundIcon.play(); >> >> However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to >> play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even >> stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it >> from script more than one time. >> >> Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just >> went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. >> >> Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so >> this always returns undefined. >> >> Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. >> >> Thanks! >> ma >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any >> attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain >> confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please >> send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily >> reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been >> checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain >> software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to >> perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of >> Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any >> attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain >> confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please >> send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily >> reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been >> checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain >> software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to >> perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of >> Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any >> attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain >> confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please >> send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily >> reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been >> checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain >> software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to >> perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of >> Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any >> attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain >> confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please >> send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily >> reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been >> checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain >> software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to >> perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of >> Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sat Feb 5 13:25:16 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:25:16 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 5 18:31:35 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:31:35 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: OK, I'm trying to suss out the script for some custom controller buttons. I think I know what scripts go where, just can't get it clear where I'm supposed to attach this stuff. onEnterFrame etc. I know the gist of it is if the FF button is held down, then we need a looping script to advance the sound via sound.position etc. Do just put a loop in an SCR under the button? Hints? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 5 19:01:18 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:01:18 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] FW: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: Ok, I got how to delete an event: delete myicon.onEnterFrame. So how do I add one in the first place so it doesn't run as soon as the icon is instantiated? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:31:35 -0500 OK, I'm trying to suss out the script for some custom controller buttons. I think I know what scripts go where, just can't get it clear where I'm supposed to attach this stuff. onEnterFrame etc. I know the gist of it is if the FF button is held down, then we need a looping script to advance the sound via sound.position etc. Do just put a loop in an SCR under the button? Hints? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 5 21:10:55 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:10:55 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] FW: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: Well, constant polling goes against my grain, but couldn't figure it out. So I picked one of the audio buttons and used that as the target of onEnterFrame. Inside that I check if the FF or RW button is down and act accordingly. Now just the scrubber bar. Anyone have any hints or samples? Dave =================== Ok, I got how to delete an event, delete myicon.onEnterFrame. So how do I add one in the first place? From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:31:35 -0500 OK, I'm trying to suss out the script for some custom controller buttons. I think I know what scripts go where, just can't get it clear where I'm supposed to attach this stuff. onEnterFrame etc. I know the gist of it is if the FF button is held down, then we need a looping script to advance the sound via sound.position etc. Do just put a loop in an SCR under the button? Hints? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 5 22:25:38 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:25:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is there a difference between Flash player 10.2 and Flash player 10.2 debugger? I can find links to download Flash Player 10.2 but not an adobe based link for the Flash Player 10.2 debugger. Where did you download it from (for Opera, that is rather than IE)? Kind regards Johnathan On 4 February 2011 11:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Update to the Xerte 3.0 installer is on the website. > > > > Use Flex SDK 19786 from > http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+Hero (I had > to edit flex-config.xml and put in the 10.2 bit of the path to > playerglobal.swc - in this build static-link-libraries is true already). > > > > Get Flash Player 10.2 debugger (was included in the SDK build 18623) and > run it once so the system knows where to find it. Install the players for > your browsers. > > > > This isn?t the release version of Flex 4.5, but I sense it?s getting close. > > > > > Have fun. > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sun Feb 6 12:30:36 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:30:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 6 16:29:35 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Reset and sound.position In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 6 16:32:37 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:32:37 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Reset and sound.position In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Should sound.position be 0 after a reset() is used? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 6 18:00:40 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:00:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Reset and sound In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: I'm curious about the sound.position value. I'm using an onEnterFrame to update the position of an audio scrubber If I call reset(), the sound certainly starts playing from the beginning when I hit play, but until I invoke play(), sound.position reflects the position the audio was in when the reset() was called. Is there a way on call of reset() to also force the position of 0 to be recognized? Or is the only way to reload the sound? I tried pause() reset() play(0) reset() pause() which does set the position to 0, but then the audio proceeds to play. (I'm also not sure why that's happening). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Sun Feb 6 19:41:13 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:41:13 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001801cbc635$d2b0a770$7811f650$@co.uk> Hi Julian I downloaded this and when trying to install I get an error: This applicantion cannot be installed because this installer has been mis-configured. Screenshot here: http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/img/tgrab-7Z.png Also I noticed you have two downloads http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/Xerte3Beta.exe which is the link on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/xerte3.htm but that's dated 28th Jan whereas the 4th Feb version appears to be http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3beta.exe that said I get the same error with both :-( This is on Windows 7 64bit HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 February 2011 11:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 Update to the Xerte 3.0 installer is on the website. Use Flex SDK 19786 from http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+Hero (I had to edit flex-config.xml and put in the 10.2 bit of the path to playerglobal.swc - in this build static-link-libraries is true already). Get Flash Player 10.2 debugger (was included in the SDK build 18623) and run it once so the system knows where to find it. Install the players for your browsers. This isn't the release version of Flex 4.5, but I sense it's getting close. Have fun. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sun Feb 6 21:30:02 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:30:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 In-Reply-To: <001801cbc635$d2b0a770$7811f650$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <001801cbc635$d2b0a770$7811f650$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sun Feb 6 21:31:23 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:31:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Reset and sound In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEEA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 09:40:01 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:40:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Reset and sound In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE0C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is this because you want to build a scrubber for the sound control? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 06 February 2011 18:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Reset and sound I'm curious about the sound.position value. I'm using an onEnterFrame to update the position of an audio scrubber If I call reset(), the sound certainly starts playing from the beginning when I hit play, but until I invoke play(), sound.position reflects the position the audio was in when the reset() was called. Is there a way on call of reset() to also force the position of 0 to be recognized? Or is the only way to reload the sound? I tried pause() reset() play(0) reset() pause() which does set the position to 0, but then the audio proceeds to play. (I'm also not sure why that's happening). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 09:44:11 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:44:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE1B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You need to do both of these things: myMovieClip.onEnterFrame = null; delete myMovieClip.onEnterFrame; never figured it either, but if there are references to the function elsewhere, it won't delete. To add one after some action, nest the interaction. This is better done in ActionScript though, in a component. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 February 2011 19:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] FW: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar Ok, I got how to delete an event: delete myicon.onEnterFrame. So how do I add one in the first place so it doesn't run as soon as the icon is instantiated? ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Audio controls, FF rew and the scrub bar Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:31:35 -0500 OK, I'm trying to suss out the script for some custom controller buttons. I think I know what scripts go where, just can't get it clear where I'm supposed to attach this stuff. onEnterFrame etc. I know the gist of it is if the FF button is held down, then we need a looping script to advance the sound via sound.position etc. Do just put a loop in an SCR under the button? Hints? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 09:45:22 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:45:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2 C67A1EE C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> , <002a01cbc4b4$08968270$19c38750$@com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can build a PrintJob, but it's not necessarily for the faint hearted. Better to pass the params out to a php script and do it in a browser window I reckon as Paul suggested. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 22:29 To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed am wondering if you could use an RLM to make a results page in the style of the PDF. Then autoprint? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:39 PM To: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Thanks Paul! You've done some work on this obviously! RonM2 From: Paul Swanson [mailto:Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:11 PM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed I pass information from Xerte to a PHP script that, after saving information to a MySQL database, uses an FPDF library to create a PDF certificate that the user downloads and can print or save. In Xerte, I have a script icon that runs after the quiz is taken. This runs whether or not the user passes. // url of PHP script URLString = 'http://myDomain/pathToScript/db_queries.php'; // pass values to external script saveVars = new LoadVars (); saveVars.action = 'saveData'; saveVars.sid = student.id; saveVars.totCorrect = totCorrect; saveVars.quesCount = quesCount; saveVars.testTries = student.testTries; saveVars.testStartDate = student.testStartDate; saveVars.score = score; saveVars.pass = scorePath; // scorePath will be 0 if score < 80, otherwise it will be 1 saveVars.complete = scorePath; // only set complete to 1 if student passed saveVars.institution = student.institution; saveVars.email = student.email; saveVars.name = student.fname + ' ' + student.lname; saveVars.product = productName; saveVars.courseName = courseTitle; // send to db testScore.sendAndLoadVars(URLString, saveVars); Then, my PHP script has (among other things): // pass -- boolean indicating whether student passed if (isset ($_POST['pass']) && is_numeric ($_POST['pass'])) { $pass = (int) $_POST['pass']; // if $pass == 1 set active to 0 (false) so user would have to re-register to take again if ($pass == 1) { $active = 0; // need to send email with certificate // must have courseName, student name, institution, completion date and email if (isset ($_POST['courseName'], $_POST['name'], $_POST['institution'], $_POST['email'])) { $completion_date = date ('m/d/Y'); $url = 'http://' . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . '/wbt/certificate_link.php?'; $certCourseTitle = ($_POST['product'] == 'SBA Lending Solution' ? 'SBA Lending Solution' : $_POST['courseName']); $qString = "courseName=$certCourseTitle&name={$_POST['name']}&company={$_POST['institution']}&completionDate=$completion_date"; // encrypt $qString $rc4 = new rc4crypt; $encString = $rc4->endecrypt('someCipherSalt',$qString); $to = "{$_POST['email']}"; $from = "Education at example.com\r\n"; $headers = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n"; $headers .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n"; $headers .= "From: $from\r\n"; $subject = "Certificate of Completion for {$_POST['product']} {$_POST['courseName']}"; $body = "

Congratulations on passing the {$_POST['product']}® {$_POST['courseName']}!

A Certificate of Completion for you is waiting at this link. Recertification is required after one year.

When you open the link, you will be asked whether to open or save the file. If you select Open, be sure to save the file after viewing or printing.

"; $mail_success = mail ($to, $subject, $body, $headers, "-fEducation at example.com"); The encryption code is something I copied from the FPDF library. The script that creates the PDF file after the user clicks the encrypted link in their email: endecrypt('someCipherSalt', $_GET['data'], 'de'); $qString = $deString; // parse string into parts parse_str ($qString); // convert date $date = date ('F jS, Y', strtotime ($completionDate)); } // end of $_GET['data'] conditional // create pdf if required fields present if ($course && $name && $company && $date) { $pdf = new FPDF_Protection(); $pdf->SetProtection(array('print'),'','somePassword'); // restrict to view and print, no user password, owner password needed to edit doc $pdf->SetMargins(72,96,72); $pdf->SetLineWidth(20); $pdf->SetDrawColor(0, 128, 0); $pdf->SetFillColor(197, 255, 197); $pdf->AddPage(); $pdf->Rect(0, 0, 790, 610, 'DF'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('Times', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(36); $pdf->Cell(0, 48, 'Certificate of Completion', 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$name", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "of", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$company", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(20); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "has achieved certification in", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); // modify course name if $course == 'SBA Lending Solution' if ($course == 'SBA Lending Solution Exam') { $pdf->Cell(120, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(225, 24, 'SBA Lending Solution', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, ' Exam', 0, 1, 'L'); } else { $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(92, 24, 'LaserPro', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, $course, 0, 1, 'L'); } $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "on", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$date", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Image('hfs_hc_background.png', 100, 465, 207, 32, 'png'); $pdf->Image('cert_sig.png', 400, 460, 285, 80, 'png'); // create file if $certDest and $certFile exist, otherwise display in browser if ($certDest && $certFile) { $pdf->Output($certDest . $certFile . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', "F"); } else { //$pdf->Output(); $pdf->Output('LaserPro_' . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', 'D'); } } else { echo "

Required data missing, no file created.

\n\n"; } ?> FPDF can be found here: http://www.fpdf.org/ Of course, all this requires that your course is on the web, your web server has PHP installed and configured and you've installed the FPDF library. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:03 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Wow it's great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I'm wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I'd like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 09:46:45 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B37A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4134@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B62E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B650@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4298@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE400@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4359@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE560@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB43FB@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE940@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3BCB4662@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <1 2 C67A1EE C419342AF5 E 59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAE6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEAFF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <017f01cbc4a6$92886a60$b7993f20$@com> , <002a01cbc4b4$08968270$19c38750$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Just thinking if you ran locally? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 07 February 2011 09:45 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed You can build a PrintJob, but it's not necessarily for the faint hearted. Better to pass the params out to a php script and do it in a browser window I reckon as Paul suggested. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 04 February 2011 22:29 To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed am wondering if you could use an RLM to make a results page in the style of the PDF. Then autoprint? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:39 PM To: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com; 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Thanks Paul! You've done some work on this obviously! RonM2 From: Paul Swanson [mailto:Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:11 PM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed I pass information from Xerte to a PHP script that, after saving information to a MySQL database, uses an FPDF library to create a PDF certificate that the user downloads and can print or save. In Xerte, I have a script icon that runs after the quiz is taken. This runs whether or not the user passes. // url of PHP script URLString = 'http://myDomain/pathToScript/db_queries.php'; // pass values to external script saveVars = new LoadVars (); saveVars.action = 'saveData'; saveVars.sid = student.id; saveVars.totCorrect = totCorrect; saveVars.quesCount = quesCount; saveVars.testTries = student.testTries; saveVars.testStartDate = student.testStartDate; saveVars.score = score; saveVars.pass = scorePath; // scorePath will be 0 if score < 80, otherwise it will be 1 saveVars.complete = scorePath; // only set complete to 1 if student passed saveVars.institution = student.institution; saveVars.email = student.email; saveVars.name = student.fname + ' ' + student.lname; saveVars.product = productName; saveVars.courseName = courseTitle; // send to db testScore.sendAndLoadVars(URLString, saveVars); Then, my PHP script has (among other things): // pass -- boolean indicating whether student passed if (isset ($_POST['pass']) && is_numeric ($_POST['pass'])) { $pass = (int) $_POST['pass']; // if $pass == 1 set active to 0 (false) so user would have to re-register to take again if ($pass == 1) { $active = 0; // need to send email with certificate // must have courseName, student name, institution, completion date and email if (isset ($_POST['courseName'], $_POST['name'], $_POST['institution'], $_POST['email'])) { $completion_date = date ('m/d/Y'); $url = 'http://' . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] . '/wbt/certificate_link.php?'; $certCourseTitle = ($_POST['product'] == 'SBA Lending Solution' ? 'SBA Lending Solution' : $_POST['courseName']); $qString = "courseName=$certCourseTitle&name={$_POST['name']}&company={$_POST['institution']}&completionDate=$completion_date"; // encrypt $qString $rc4 = new rc4crypt; $encString = $rc4->endecrypt('someCipherSalt',$qString); $to = "{$_POST['email']}"; $from = "Education at example.com\r\n"; $headers = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n"; $headers .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n"; $headers .= "From: $from\r\n"; $subject = "Certificate of Completion for {$_POST['product']} {$_POST['courseName']}"; $body = "

Congratulations on passing the {$_POST['product']}® {$_POST['courseName']}!

A Certificate of Completion for you is waiting at this link. Recertification is required after one year.

When you open the link, you will be asked whether to open or save the file. If you select Open, be sure to save the file after viewing or printing.

"; $mail_success = mail ($to, $subject, $body, $headers, "-fEducation at example.com"); The encryption code is something I copied from the FPDF library. The script that creates the PDF file after the user clicks the encrypted link in their email: endecrypt('someCipherSalt', $_GET['data'], 'de'); $qString = $deString; // parse string into parts parse_str ($qString); // convert date $date = date ('F jS, Y', strtotime ($completionDate)); } // end of $_GET['data'] conditional // create pdf if required fields present if ($course && $name && $company && $date) { $pdf = new FPDF_Protection(); $pdf->SetProtection(array('print'),'','somePassword'); // restrict to view and print, no user password, owner password needed to edit doc $pdf->SetMargins(72,96,72); $pdf->SetLineWidth(20); $pdf->SetDrawColor(0, 128, 0); $pdf->SetFillColor(197, 255, 197); $pdf->AddPage(); $pdf->Rect(0, 0, 790, 610, 'DF'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('Times', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(36); $pdf->Cell(0, 48, 'Certificate of Completion', 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$name", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "of", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$company", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(20); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "has achieved certification in", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'BI'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); // modify course name if $course == 'SBA Lending Solution' if ($course == 'SBA Lending Solution Exam') { $pdf->Cell(120, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(225, 24, 'SBA Lending Solution', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, ' Exam', 0, 1, 'L'); } else { $pdf->Cell(36, 24, '', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->Cell(92, 24, 'LaserPro', 0, 0, 'L'); $pdf->subWrite(24, '??', '', 12, 9); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, $course, 0, 1, 'L'); } $pdf->Ln(); $pdf->SetFont('', 'I'); $pdf->SetFontSize(18); $pdf->Cell(0, 18, "on", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->SetFontSize(24); $pdf->Cell(0, 24, "$date", 0, 1, 'C'); $pdf->Image('hfs_hc_background.png', 100, 465, 207, 32, 'png'); $pdf->Image('cert_sig.png', 400, 460, 285, 80, 'png'); // create file if $certDest and $certFile exist, otherwise display in browser if ($certDest && $certFile) { $pdf->Output($certDest . $certFile . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', "F"); } else { //$pdf->Output(); $pdf->Output('LaserPro_' . str_replace (' ', '_', $course) . '.pdf', 'D'); } } else { echo "

Required data missing, no file created.

\n\n"; } ?> FPDF can be found here: http://www.fpdf.org/ Of course, all this requires that your course is on the web, your web server has PHP installed and configured and you've installed the FPDF library. Cheers, Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:03 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: certificate printing by student if quiz passed Wow it's great to see the volume of this list expanding..but hard to keep up! I'm wondering if anyone has built a page to print a student certificate or has suggestions around how to do this. Ideally, if the student passes the quiz I'd like to allow them to print a certificate and/or email it to themselves from xerte (not LMS). Anyone doing this now? TIA RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 09:48:13 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2B2DE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BE8E8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE2C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> args is a global var. In a script function (think subroutine rather than function) you should snap off the args into vars that won't collide with anything else, because if you then call another function from that function, args will be the args sent to the second function. Once that's done, and you're back in the first function, args will hold values from the second function call. I don't use functions so often: sometimes it seems better to have a global event handler, and fire custom events from within the code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 February 2011 17:02 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I've gotten into the habit of fully qualified paths. _level0.engine.fcommonPagesetup(arg); If you have multiple functions and/or are using asfunctions as well, funny things happen, especially to the args[] ________________________________ From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:56:31 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks for suggestion, Dave. We run all of our xerte rlo files from a flash application that plays in the browser. I've found that inFunc scripts work in preview, but don't when played in our flash wrapper. Didn't investigate because it was easier just to duplicate the code. Another layer of Flash sitting under the xerte engine confusing things? Now that I have a real reason, I think I'll put some time into figuring it out. Tried to use the onLoad event on the sound icon but it never fired. Tried putting the load call in one script and the play call in a separate script but that magic didn't work. Tried setting the isStreaming arg of the loadSound call to true and that actually worked but then I lost looping which was the whole reason I started down this path. hmmmm... I'll play around with this. Thanks On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dave Burnett > wrote: onLoad event fdoSound(myargs); ?? ________________________________ From: maryann at moberg.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:01:40 -0500 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Thanks, Julian, you're absolutely right. But now I'm trying to figure out how to implement this without a button for each task. When I read the flash documentation it's all about defining a named or anonymous function that is invoked onLoad, which we can't do in xerte, right? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Is the sound loaded before you call start()? It might need to load before the method works. Try mocking up an interaction with a button to load the sound, a button to make it play, see if that works. In the engine I handle onLoad to control the autoPlay setting, so I think that's the right approach. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 04 February 2011 07:03 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop Hi Julian, Things just got weird using this technique to control sound. Haven't had time to investigate yet, but thought I'd ask in case the answer is as easy for you as the last one was. soundIcon.sound.stop(); soundIcon.loadSound(FileLocation + 'mySoundFile.mp3'); soundIcon.sound.start(0,100); Accessing the flash sound object with these calls works fine when I play the rlo file in preview mode. iI also works when I play it from a flash swf file that loads it with this: attachMovie('Xerte', 'myRLO', 0); But if I publish the rlo and try to play it in a browser, or if I play my flash "wrapper" in a browser I don't hear these sound files. I do hear the other sounds in my rlo that I'm playing in the standard way. Any ideas as to what's going on? Thanks a million! ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mary Ann Ahearn > wrote: Indeed it is! Thanks ma On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Julian Tenney > wrote: Easy. Access the underlying sound object, mySoundIcon.sound and control it directly with the Sound object's methods myIcon.sound.start(offset, loopCount); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ahearn Sent: 01 February 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Problem looping sound controlled by script - Xerte 2 desktop I was feeling smug enough about controlling sound via script yesterday to dare to post an answer to someone's question!! Ha! The gods don't like hubris. Today everything is different. I've got a button that plays a sound when clicked. I'd like the sound to loop and the button to toggle it on and off It seems to forget its loop value when I start controlling it via script. mySoundIcon.play(); However if I just put the sound icon under a button icon and set it to play =1 and loop = 5, then the looping works and all is fine. I can even stop it and reset it without any problems. Just can't manage to play it from script more than one time. Tried putting an onSoundComplete event to reset it and play it but it just went mad and looped very bizarrely without ever waiting to finish. Then I tried the getSound route but can't seem to get the timing right so this always returns undefined. Any ideas? I think I must be missing something very simple. Thanks! ma This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 7 11:14:48 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:14:48 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Reset and sound In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE0C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEE0C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes. I've got one working. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:40:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Reset and sound Is this because you want to build a scrubber for the sound control? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 06 February 2011 18:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Reset and sound I'm curious about the sound.position value. I'm using an onEnterFrame to update the position of an audio scrubber If I call reset(), the sound certainly starts playing from the beginning when I hit play, but until I invoke play(), sound.position reflects the position the audio was in when the reset() was called. Is there a way on call of reset() to also force the position of 0 to be recognized? Or is the only way to reload the sound? I tried pause() reset() play(0) reset() pause() which does set the position to 0, but then the audio proceeds to play. (I'm also not sure why that's happening). This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 7 19:18:48 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:18:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. Now I know where to look, the player is included in the sdk download in the runtimes \ player \ 10.2 folder. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 February 2011 12:30, Julian Tenney wrote: > it was in the previous sdk drop, build 18636(?) in the > runtimes/players(?) folder? > > I couldn't find it online either > > ------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > *Sent:* 05 February 2011 22:25 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 3.0 Beta 4 > > Is there a difference between Flash player 10.2 and Flash player 10.2 > debugger? > > I can find links to download Flash Player 10.2 but not an adobe based > link for the Flash Player 10.2 debugger. > > Where did you download it from (for Opera, that is rather than IE)? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 4 February 2011 11:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> Update to the Xerte 3.0 installer is on the website. >> >> >> >> Use Flex SDK 19786 from >> http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+Hero (I >> had to edit flex-config.xml and put in the 10.2 bit of the path to >> playerglobal.swc - in this build static-link-libraries is true already). >> >> >> >> Get Flash Player 10.2 debugger (was included in the SDK build 18623) and >> run it once so the system knows where to find it. Install the players for >> your browsers. >> >> >> >> This isn?t the release version of Flex 4.5, but I sense it?s getting >> close. >> >> >> >> Have fun. >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 12:42:56 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 8 12:45:51 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:45:51 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] page type icons Message-ID: <000901cbc78e$200bd180$60237480$@co.uk> Hi all having a bad day trying to do too much at the same time :-( Also popping out now but can someone remind me what file the icons for page types is stored in? I've been merging changes between the Nottingham XOT template and my version and the page icons for Raptivity page type and button sequence page type aren't showing online in XOT but are showing when viewed via Xerte.. Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 12:50:18 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:50:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons In-Reply-To: <000901cbc78e$200bd180$60237480$@co.uk> References: <000901cbc78e$200bd180$60237480$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> They are in the library of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2011 12:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] page type icons Hi all having a bad day trying to do too much at the same time :-( Also popping out now but can someone remind me what file the icons for page types is stored in? I've been merging changes between the Nottingham XOT template and my version and the page icons for Raptivity page type and button sequence page type aren't showing online in XOT but are showing when viewed via Xerte.. Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 12:51:04 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 13:03:43 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:03:43 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 13:05:49 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 13:09:06 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:09:06 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes. ggg ggg g g gg ggg gg stop. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightmultiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 13:14:28 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:14:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA73D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't think it can be cleanly done. Search the flash forums, can add engine support if required, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:09 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Yes. ggg ggg g g gg ggg gg stop. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 13:24:57 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:24:57 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightmultiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 13:34:53 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> iconID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 8 13:51:05 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:51:05 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000901cbc78e$200bd180$60237480$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003001cbc797$3d050780$b70f1680$@co.uk> Thanks Julian - never usually have to worry about wizard.swf Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2011 12:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons They are in the library of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2011 12:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] page type icons Hi all having a bad day trying to do too much at the same time :-( Also popping out now but can someone remind me what file the icons for page types is stored in? I've been merging changes between the Nottingham XOT template and my version and the page icons for Raptivity page type and button sequence page type aren't showing online in XOT but are showing when viewed via Xerte.. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 13:51:49 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:51:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons In-Reply-To: <003001cbc797$3d050780$b70f1680$@co.uk> References: <000901cbc78e$200bd180$60237480$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003001cbc797$3d050780$b70f1680$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA7B2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I wish they could be loaded at runtime then it would be easier to add / change them... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2011 13:51 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons Thanks Julian - never usually have to worry about wizard.swf Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2011 12:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: page type icons They are in the library of the wizard. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2011 12:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] page type icons Hi all having a bad day trying to do too much at the same time :-( Also popping out now but can someone remind me what file the icons for page types is stored in? I've been merging changes between the Nottingham XOT template and my version and the page icons for Raptivity page type and button sequence page type aren't showing online in XOT but are showing when viewed via Xerte.. Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 14:23:01 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Had tried that one. longtextentryid.txt._width = 100; The whole interface collapses, so .txt must not be there. I had also tried to do an inspect on id.txt and rs.txt and I get nothing. Odd. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height iconID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightYou want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightmultiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Tue Feb 8 15:33:52 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:33:52 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 15:34:51 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:34:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 16:08:10 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:08:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: Good point I forgot about the mimetypes missing on a windows installation. Can you tell me what they are? Many Thanks! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 February 2011 15:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Tue Feb 8 16:11:18 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:11:18 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C1@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Thanks, installed a beauty. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 February 2011 15:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 16:12:10 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:12:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C1@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C1@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: No problem :) In fact, I might have two :) :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 16:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Thanks, installed a beauty. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 February 2011 15:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 16:14:01 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:14:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: Oh blimey Rlm Xwd Rlo Adam? Ron? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 08 February 2011 16:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Good point I forgot about the mimetypes missing on a windows installation. Can you tell me what they are? Many Thanks! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 February 2011 15:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 16:22:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 16:19:26 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:19:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 16:52:07 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:52:07 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No effect, and it has to be there because these other lines are taking effect: longtextentry.wordWrap = true; //yesd longtextentry.multiline = true; //yes longtextentryid._width = 100; //nothing So here's what I ended up doing. I'm trying to match TE to graphic. //graphic //catch load event //get xywh of graphic //set attribs of TE This works correctly if scrolling is set to 1 in the TE icon. But if I set the scroll attrib to auto, it never scrolls, text lines just continue to add till it's off screen. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height sorry, it is simply the iconID, the rs property in this case. It refers to the textfield directly. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2011 14:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Had tried that one. longtextentryid.txt._width = 100; The whole interface collapses, so .txt must not be there. I had also tried to do an inspect on id.txt and rs.txt and I get nothing. Odd. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height iconID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 8 17:51:07 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:51:07 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A40C0@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00ba01cbc7b8$c5913990$50b3acb0$@co.uk> sorry been offline but just to add... 1. yes as Julian has listed they're the mime types and although .flv isn't specific to XOT it isn't there by default on Windows servers 2. Again check the archives but http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch contains a readme with full instructions. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 February 2011 16:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle .flv .xwd .rlm .xml .rlt .rlo check the archives. _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley [Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 08 February 2011 16:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Oh blimey Rlm Xwd Rlo Adam? Ron? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 08 February 2011 16:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Good point I forgot about the mimetypes missing on a windows installation. Can you tell me what they are? Many Thanks! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 February 2011 15:35 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle No changes needed from the 1 time I did it. I made a toolkits folder inside the moodle folder and installed into that As you've got a windows server remember The file path issue and the mimetypes. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 08 February 2011 15:34 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] XOT Installation on Same Server as Moodle Hi I want to install XOT onto the same server as my moodle instalaation. The moodle installations uses Apache, PHP and MYSQL. Apache Server is configured as follows: ServerRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/apache" Listen 80 ServerName moodle.rewards-trc.co.uk:80 DocumentRoot "C:/MoodleWindowsInstaller-latest-19/server/moodle" What do I need to add to httpd.conf to allow me to install and run XOT on the same server? Is it two Virtual host declaratives? If so what would be the settings? I do not want access to XOT outside of the local network. Any help would be gratefully received Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _____ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 18:26:46 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:26:46 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Input text font/size In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Where does the input text field pick it's defaults up from? The LO has Verdana 14, whcih is covering my standard text. The TE has a smaller font, not sure what face. It is not set anywhere on the icon. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 21:16:52 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:16:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Input text font/size In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 10:11:41 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:11:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Back pedal a minute. What's the goal again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 16:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height No effect, and it has to be there because these other lines are taking effect: longtextentry.wordWrap = true; //yesd longtextentry.multiline = true; //yes longtextentryid._width = 100; //nothing So here's what I ended up doing. I'm trying to match TE to graphic. //graphic //catch load event //get xywh of graphic //set attribs of TE This works correctly if scrolling is set to 1 in the TE icon. But if I set the scroll attrib to auto, it never scrolls, text lines just continue to add till it's off screen. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height sorry, it is simply the iconID, the rs property in this case. It refers to the textfield directly. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2011 14:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Had tried that one. longtextentryid.txt._width = 100; The whole interface collapses, so .txt must not be there. I had also tried to do an inspect on id.txt and rs.txt and I get nothing. Odd. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height iconID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Wed Feb 9 10:27:21 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 05:27:21 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: A sized multi-line text entry with auto scroll bar. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:11:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Back pedal a minute. What?s the goal again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 16:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height No effect, and it has to be there because these other lines are taking effect: longtextentry.wordWrap = true; //yesd longtextentry.multiline = true; //yes longtextentryid._width = 100; //nothing So here's what I ended up doing. I'm trying to match TE to graphic. //graphic //catch load event //get xywh of graphic //set attribs of TE This works correctly if scrolling is set to 1 in the TE icon. But if I set the scroll attrib to auto, it never scrolls, text lines just continue to add till it's off screen. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightsorry, it is simply the iconID, the rs property in this case. It refers to the textfield directly. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2011 14:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Had tried that one. longtextentryid.txt._width = 100; The whole interface collapses, so .txt must not be there. I had also tried to do an inspect on id.txt and rs.txt and I get nothing. Odd.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heighticonID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightYou want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field heightmultiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 10:28:05 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:28:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAAFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAB31@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Use a normal text icon, and get around it that way. Have a submit button or similar to handle events. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 09 February 2011 10:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height A sized multi-line text entry with auto scroll bar. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:11:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Back pedal a minute. What's the goal again? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 16:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height No effect, and it has to be there because these other lines are taking effect: longtextentry.wordWrap = true; //yesd longtextentry.multiline = true; //yes longtextentryid._width = 100; //nothing So here's what I ended up doing. I'm trying to match TE to graphic. //graphic //catch load event //get xywh of graphic //set attribs of TE This works correctly if scrolling is set to 1 in the TE icon. But if I set the scroll attrib to auto, it never scrolls, text lines just continue to add till it's off screen. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height sorry, it is simply the iconID, the rs property in this case. It refers to the textfield directly. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2011 14:23 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Had tried that one. longtextentryid.txt._width = 100; The whole interface collapses, so .txt must not be there. I had also tried to do an inspect on id.txt and rs.txt and I get nothing. Odd. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height iconID.txt._width From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:25 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height OK, skip the line restriction part, scrolling is OK if auto. Now I'm gapping on how to dynamically set the te field width/height. te_rs.txt.._width = 400; te_rs.txt.clip()._width = 400; ? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:05:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height You want the returns? But to restrict lineCount? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 13:04 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height Doesn't that only give me a single entry line? It won't take returns? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Restricting text entry field height multiline = false; //hide all the borders and place on top of the graphic paper? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 08 February 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Restricting text entry field height Any way to set a multiline te field to a specific height without setting scrolling =1? Idea is to give the user a set area (think a ruled page) to enter into. No scrollbars and no running past the bottom. Tried a few variations with longtextentry._height = 200; but as soon as I turn scrolling off, the tf just keeps expanding downwards, and if I turn scrolling on, well, the darn thing scrolls. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 11:31:46 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:31:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi all Message-ID: Hello Patrick, Thank you very much for your answer. I really don't know how tu insert it in an activity...., so I image to find it in the media file should be the following step.... Thank you so much. Best regards, Marta Garcia. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 11:48:48 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:48:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Marta, Could you remind me of the original question. Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 11:32 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hi all Hello Patrick, Thank you very much for your answer. I really don't know how tu insert it in an activity...., so I image to find it in the media file should be the following step.... Thank you so much. Best regards, Marta Garcia. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 12:20:51 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:20:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 12:41:03 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:41:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 12:55:36 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:55:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Message-ID: Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:01:14 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:01:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Dunno. Need to look up the API docs on the matter and see if it's something you can do via the chromeless player which we are embedding, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 12:56 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:05:14 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:05:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or alternatively convert it to a flashpaper and embed it directly in the LO to make it look really slick: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/rlo/play.php?template_id=86 There may be a free converter but it will likely add adverts/logos over the pages. If you can find an old copy of Macromedia Contribute 2 I think it comes with that. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:06:20 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:06:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When you do that thing with the start param, what happens when the movie is reset? It resets to 0 or it resets to the start time place? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time Dunno. Need to look up the API docs on the matter and see if it's something you can do via the chromeless player which we are embedding, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 12:56 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:10:44 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:10:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: When the video reaches the end, clicking play again starts from 0 not the start time. The start time only works when the page is refreshed (e.g. the first time it is played) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time When you do that thing with the start param, what happens when the movie is reset? It resets to 0 or it resets to the start time place? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time Dunno. Need to look up the API docs on the matter and see if it's something you can do via the chromeless player which we are embedding, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 12:56 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:13:42 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:13:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FACB3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is that good practice? I mean is it clear to the user? I'm just looking at it now, it might be easy to do, but I wonder if it makes usability sense to have the movie start halfway through first time, then go back to somewhere the user might not think is the start... I'd prefer it to reset to the start time place. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 13:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time When the video reaches the end, clicking play again starts from 0 not the start time. The start time only works when the page is refreshed (e.g. the first time it is played) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time When you do that thing with the start param, what happens when the movie is reset? It resets to 0 or it resets to the start time place? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time Dunno. Need to look up the API docs on the matter and see if it's something you can do via the chromeless player which we are embedding, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 12:56 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 13:16:25 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:16:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you both Patrick and Adam, I am trying the first option with the PDF in the media file because we would rather like the document as a link than as a swf in this case, but the other option seems very interesting for next activities. I have bee using Print2Flash free edition which only adds a text in the foot of the page which is not so bad if you are interested. Cheers! Marta 2011/2/9 Adam Read > Or alternatively convert it to a flashpaper and embed it directly in the > LO to make it look really slick: > http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/rlo/play.php?template_id=86 > > > > There may be a free converter but it will likely add adverts/logos over the > pages. If you can find an old copy of Macromedia Contribute 2 I think it > comes with that. > > > > Adam > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Lockley > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 12:41 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package > > > > Hello, > > > > Create a project > > Highlight the project and select properties > > On the popup window click ?media and quota? > > Use the upload button to upload the pdf > > Close the pop up down > > Edit the project > > On a text page add in > > text for link > > > > That should work > > > > Pat > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Marta Garc?a > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 12:21 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package > > > > Hi Patrick, > > I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a > PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF > inside the package created with Xerte. > > The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in > "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and > don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... > > I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly > subscribed to the list. > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:17:46 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:17:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FACB3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC96@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAC9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FACB3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm not sure if a user would necessarily re-watch the video straightaway would they? In theory, once they navigated to another page in a LO, then back, the video would reload (I think?) - hence start at the designated cue point? It is a useful feature if you just want to target a piece of a video, rather than the whole lot. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time Is that good practice? I mean is it clear to the user? I'm just looking at it now, it might be easy to do, but I wonder if it makes usability sense to have the movie start halfway through first time, then go back to somewhere the user might not think is the start... I'd prefer it to reset to the start time place. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 13:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time When the video reaches the end, clicking play again starts from 0 not the start time. The start time only works when the page is refreshed (e.g. the first time it is played) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time When you do that thing with the start param, what happens when the movie is reset? It resets to 0 or it resets to the start time place? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 February 2011 13:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube start time Dunno. Need to look up the API docs on the matter and see if it's something you can do via the chromeless player which we are embedding, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 09 February 2011 12:56 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] YouTube start time Hi all Is there a way to use the Youtube "start" parameter in the Xerte Youtube page type? You can add ?start=n (where n is a number in seconds) to the end of a video URL to direct the user to a specific part of a video. However, adding this to the Xerte youtube page type using the new YT embed code doesn't seem to work: Even though the embed does work on a standard HTML page. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:17:42 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:17:42 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Would that work for PPTs, Word docs, avi, WMV etc as well? Or am I in danger of asking a daft question... J And if it does, I think I'm right in saying that the link wouldn't be keyboard accessible (you couldn't tab to it) or perceivable to a screenreader user. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 13:21:40 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:21:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It should work with any file / link. Textbox is tab selected, html links inside it aren't (it would seem), am not sure how it works with a screen reader, sorry. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 February 2011 13:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Would that work for PPTs, Word docs, avi, WMV etc as well? Or am I in danger of asking a daft question... :) And if it does, I think I'm right in saying that the link wouldn't be keyboard accessible (you couldn't tab to it) or perceivable to a screenreader user. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:38:04 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:38:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Message-ID: Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:39:00 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:39:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where from? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:48:22 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:48:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/attribution/ When you click the select link on any video it gives you some html code to paste into an editor. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Where from? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:49:28 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:49:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's only html directly. So it won't embed like youtube. What term did you search for? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/attribution/ When you click the select link on any video it gives you some html code to paste into an editor. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Where from? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:51:30 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:51:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm actually emailing on behalf of some staff members, they were looking at plant lifecycles I think. Search criteria of plant. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube That's only html directly. So it won't embed like youtube. What term did you search for? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/attribution/ When you click the select link on any video it gives you some html code to paste into an editor. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Where from? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [Description: Image removed by sender.] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [Description: Image removed by sender.] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD000.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: ~WRD000.jpg URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 14:56:47 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:56:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Taking the first example when I search for plant Crossing Borders: User-produced Hebrew Prayer Books and Shared Iconography

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/ That's not embed code, just html The file is an mp4, so won't display in toolkits though you can paste that html into a text field though in toolkits From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:52 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube I'm actually emailing on behalf of some staff members, they were looking at plant lifecycles I think. Search criteria of plant. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube That's only html directly. So it won't embed like youtube. What term did you search for? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/attribution/ When you click the select link on any video it gives you some html code to paste into an editor. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 14:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Where from? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 09 February 2011 14:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube Hi All I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn't like it. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBC869.92DE3AF0] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBC869.92DE3AF0] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 15:39:01 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:39:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi evertybody, I've done something with the following code, but the video takes the whole screen so is not like youtube embed videos but it is a beginning. here the code: video Hope it works for you as well. Regards, 2011/2/9 Patrick Lockley > Taking the first example when I search for plant > > > > Crossing > Borders: User-produced Hebrew Prayer Books and Shared Iconography

> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/** > > * * > > *That?s not embed code, just html* > > * * > > *The file is an mp4, so won?t display in toolkits though you can paste > that html into a text field though in toolkits* > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Andy Epps > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 14:52 > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from > youtube > > > > I?m actually emailing on behalf of some staff members, they were looking at > plant lifecycles I think. Search criteria of plant. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Lockley > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 14:49 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from > youtube > > > > That?s only html directly. So it won?t embed like youtube. > > > > What term did you search for? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Andy Epps > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 14:48 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from > youtube > > > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/attribution/ > > > > When you click the select link on any video it gives you some html code to > paste into an editor. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Lockley > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 14:39 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Vieos that have embed codes but are not from > youtube > > > > Where from? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Andy Epps > *Sent:* 09 February 2011 14:38 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Vieos that have embed codes but are not from youtube > > > > Hi All > > > > I have found some great videos online that have embed codes however they > are not from youtube. How would I embed these into a learning object? I have > attempted using the youtube template regardless but it didn?t like it. > > > > Thanks > > Andy > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views > or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient > be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of > this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error > please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This > email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please > note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and > outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of > illegal or serious misuse of facilities. > > [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] > > Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 > | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk > > > [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 16:33:39 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:33:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAE18@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can link to anything you like, the usual situation prevails. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 09 February 2011 13:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Would that work for PPTs, Word docs, avi, WMV etc as well? Or am I in danger of asking a daft question... :) And if it does, I think I'm right in saying that the link wouldn't be keyboard accessible (you couldn't tab to it) or perceivable to a screenreader user. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From t.rochford at rsc-eastern.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 17:44:43 2011 From: t.rochford at rsc-eastern.ac.uk (Rochford, Thomas) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:44:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Message-ID: <026601cbc880$c0921e34$72373fc1@ANGLIA.LOCAL> I normally recommend using print2flash - free for smaller files from www.print2flash.com. Thos turns pdfs, powerpoints, etc into flashpaper files which can then be embedded using the standard template for this. Or am I missing the point complety? Sorry if this is the case! Sent from Samsung tablet Alistair McNaught wrote: Would that work for PPTs, Word docs, avi, WMV etc as well? Or am I in danger of asking a daft question... J And if it does, I think I'm right in saying that the link wouldn't be keyboard accessible (you couldn't tab to it) or perceivable to a screenreader user. A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hello, Create a project Highlight the project and select properties On the popup window click "media and quota" Use the upload button to upload the pdf Close the pop up down Edit the project On a text page add in text for link That should work Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package Hi Patrick, I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. Thank you very much! This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 From Julia.Stephenson at brunel.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 10:05:53 2011 From: Julia.Stephenson at brunel.ac.uk (Julia Stephenson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:05:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Message-ID: Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia From aread at marjon.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 10:37:28 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:37:28 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Julia Xerte Learning objects are embedded flash files which won't play on Apple devices (as they don't support this format). I'm not sure if the chaps have a work-around or if future support for non-flash devices in on the development roadmap. Adam -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julia Stephenson Sent: 10 February 2011 10:06 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 10:39:39 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:39:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's not straightforward. Right now, Toolkits content will run on Android, but not iOS because Apple don't support the Flash Player, but even that's not perfect. Long term the goal will be to create an app that can consume, parse and render the xml on iOS, but that's a long way down the line. Ron knows better than I how the content works on various mobile devices... Ron? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 10 February 2011 10:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices Hi Julia Xerte Learning objects are embedded flash files which won't play on Apple devices (as they don't support this format). I'm not sure if the chaps have a work-around or if future support for non-flash devices in on the development roadmap. Adam -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julia Stephenson Sent: 10 February 2011 10:06 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 10:57:26 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:57:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We (Nottingham) have never had a specific request to make any, so we never have. Although I made a crude proof of concept one afternoon. I'd be happy (in my own time) to try making one, but it'd be better if it was a "community" effort :) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 10 February 2011 10:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices Hi Julia Xerte Learning objects are embedded flash files which won't play on Apple devices (as they don't support this format). I'm not sure if the chaps have a work-around or if future support for non-flash devices in on the development roadmap. Adam -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julia Stephenson Sent: 10 February 2011 10:06 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From southman at internode.on.net Thu Feb 10 11:04:35 2011 From: southman at internode.on.net (Peter Snowball) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:04:35 +1100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package In-Reply-To: <026601cbc880$c0921e34$72373fc1@ANGLIA.LOCAL> References: <026601cbc880$c0921e34$72373fc1@ANGLIA.LOCAL> Message-ID: <4D53C643.1020808@internode.on.net> We use Print2Flash and recommended it to directly embed PDF, powerpoint, word or just about anything static into Xerte. Example below . Check outpage wizards use the flashpaper wizard. Scrollable, re sizable, rotatable, printable, view in external tab etc. > just like a native PDF etc. Won't do animations (we use Ispring for animated Powerpoints ) but latest version 3 of Print2flash says it will do hyperlinks etc. Peter Snowball Dept Of Economic Development Tasmania On 10/02/2011 4:44 AM, Rochford, Thomas wrote: > I normally recommend using print2flash - free for smaller files from www.print2flash.com. Thos turns pdfs, powerpoints, etc into flashpaper files which can then be embedded using the standard template for this. > > Or am I missing the point complety? Sorry if this is the case! > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > Alistair McNaught wrote: > > > Would that work for PPTs, Word docs, avi, WMV etc as well? Or am I in danger of asking a daft question... J > > And if it does, I think I'm right in saying that the link wouldn't be keyboard accessible (you couldn't tab to it) or perceivable to a screenreader user. > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 09 February 2011 12:41 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Including a PDF document in a Xerte package > > > > > Hello, > > > > > Create a project > > Highlight the project and select properties > > On the popup window click "media and quota" > > Use the upload button to upload the pdf > > Close the pop up down > > Edit the project > > On a text page add in > > text for link > > > > > That should work > > > > > Pat > > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Marta Garc?a > Sent: 09 February 2011 12:21 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Including a PDF document in a Xerte package > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > I don't see with which kind of activity or how I can include a link to a PDF document and this link not to be an internet link but a link to the PDF inside the package created with Xerte. > > The thing is that we are creating SCORMs which we want to work in "stand-alone" mode (I don't know if this is the right way to say it...) and don't need of any document or resource outside of the package.... > > I'm sorry I didn't read your previous answer since I wasn't correctly subscribed to the list. > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > ____________________ > This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it > > Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy > > Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us > > Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free > > The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: moz-screenshot-5.png Type: image/png Size: 155893 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 10 11:24:53 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:24:53 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> In terms of what mobile devices the current flash version of xerte runs on it's actually as much about screen size/resolution as it is about technical compatibility. e.g. technically it runs on all the netbooks/tablets/mobile phones etc (apart from iOS!) that have a compatible flash player and for most of the larger devices it's fine and a great solution. But when it comes to smaller handheld mobile phones/devices even when it's technically compatible practically it's not really suitable e.g. you would have to be very committed to keep zooming in to read the tiny text let alone interactions, or even to use the standard interface to navigate. A new XOT template could be developed which is more optimised for the smaller screens/resolution of these devices but I'm not sure that would be worth the effort required. More likely to be useful would be the kind of proof of concept Pat mentioned which to my mind wouldn't be likely to be able to provide all of the functionality of the flash engine version but if that was integrated so that when viewing on a mobile device there was either a manual or automatic link to the non-flash version of the same LO that would be brilliant! I know the Nottingham team have bid for funding for this kind of work previously and clearly Pat has offered to revisit his proof of concept but perhaps there is a community of interest that could contribute to that? Also there are various JISC funding calls out at the moment that I'm sure could include this kind of development as part of a project if there's a University looking to do something with mobile learning. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 February 2011 10:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices It's not straightforward. Right now, Toolkits content will run on Android, but not iOS because Apple don't support the Flash Player, but even that's not perfect. Long term the goal will be to create an app that can consume, parse and render the xml on iOS, but that's a long way down the line. Ron knows better than I how the content works on various mobile devices... Ron? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 10 February 2011 10:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices Hi Julia Xerte Learning objects are embedded flash files which won't play on Apple devices (as they don't support this format). I'm not sure if the chaps have a work-around or if future support for non-flash devices in on the development roadmap. Adam -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julia Stephenson Sent: 10 February 2011 10:06 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 10 14:16:48 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:16:48 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? In-Reply-To: <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Any other way than

  • to represent a bullet? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 14:20:09 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 10 15:36:12 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {'\u2022 He\'s mad you know, quite mad!'} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 10 15:59:40 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {?\u2022 He\?s mad you know, quite mad!?} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 10 16:21:25 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives * Might work. Shouldn't break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I'm not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {'\u2022 He\'s mad you know, quite mad!'} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 10 16:35:10 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:35:10 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , Message-ID: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Think that was the char I was looking to replace originally. :) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives ?Might work. Shouldn?t break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I?m not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references?Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {?\u2022 He\?s mad you know, quite mad!?} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 10 16:49:45 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:49:45 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , Message-ID: Another thought: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = replace (unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1, '~BULL~', String.fromCharCode(8226)); And insert ~BULL~ in your xml where you want the bullet. Might slow things down when the xml is being parsed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Think that was the char I was looking to replace originally. :) ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives * Might work. Shouldn't break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I'm not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {'\u2022 He\'s mad you know, quite mad!'} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 16:51:22 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:51:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB337@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue.split('~bull~').join(String.fromCharCode(8226)) will be marginally quicker, but that's going to be really fast anyway, even for hundreds of bullets. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 10 February 2011 16:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Another thought: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = replace (unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1, '~BULL~', String.fromCharCode(8226)); And insert ~BULL~ in your xml where you want the bullet. Might slow things down when the xml is being parsed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Think that was the char I was looking to replace originally. :) ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives * Might work. Shouldn't break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I'm not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {'\u2022 He\'s mad you know, quite mad!'} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 11 00:24:24 2011 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:24:24 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> I have a client who has put up youtube private videos. The videos don't run in xerte...when I go directly to the youtube site using the embed address it gives me a text notice that this is a private video and 'please make sure you accept the sender's friend request'. OH boy...anyone know how I'd do that? I mean have xerte tell it that it's a friend? Using toolkits 1.5. Thanks RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 10 22:10:44 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:10:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: [Xerte 3] Problem getting Xerte 3 running with Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CC8772F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , Message-ID: <4D546264.3010803@tor.nl> Just to confirm This is an issue with short filenames. In Win7 64 bit (and also in Vista 64 bit) both "C:\Program Files\" and "C:\Program Files (x86)\" exist. The short file name of the first is: C:\Progra~1 and of the second: C:\Progra~2 Just install Xerte3 in a 8.3 directory, will solve all problems. Tom Op 11-1-2011 23:52, Patrick Lockley schreef: > Vista has program files and program files (86) too, so it might be a path issue due to 8.3 file names? > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:47 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 3] Problem getting Xerte 3 running with Windows 7 > > Nope. > > I first called the batch file by opening a cmd window and then typed the full path of the batch file in the cmd window and then pressed the return key. > > Later I tried running the batch file directly by opening windows explorer and double clicking on the batch file. > > I have now uninstalled Adobe Air and Xerte 3. > > I then re-installed Xerte 3 to the location c:\XerteProject and set the Xerte setting file to the location of flex 4.5 > > Now projects build successfully, so I think we can safely assume that the (86) in the original path of Xerte was causing a problem. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 11 January 2011 14:45, Patrick Lockley> wrote: > By running the batch file from a command window, do you mean a desktop icon? > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 11 January 2011 14:26 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 3] Problem getting Xerte 3 running with Windows 7 > > When I try running the batch file from a cmd window I get the message > > 'mxmlc' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. > > However when I use in the batch file > > c:\flex45SDK\bin\mxmlc c:\xerte3Projects\ProjectTest\src\LearningObject.mxml > pause > > Then no error messages are displayed in the command window and a swf file is produced in the project's src folder. > > On 11 January 2011 12:03, Julian Tenney> wrote: > Should run 64bit and shouldn?t need to add any more paths. > > I would try making a batch file with a simple mxmlc call in it: > > -- > mxmlc C:\test\test.mxml > pause > > place a simple mxml file in c:\test that you can compile. > See what happens. Then start adding in other parts of the command until we find the problem. > > I think it might be the (86) in the path that is screwing things up. > > fcsh is an mxmlc wrapper that makes mxmlc fast to re-use when compiling projects. fcsh has handy features like not handling spaces in file paths, and Xerte?s method for getting short filenames is not bulletproof yet. [I?ve logged a bug with the Flex team] > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan > Sent: 11 January 2011 10:31 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] [Xerte 3] Problem getting Xerte 3 running with Windows 7 > > I am just setting up a new PC running windows 7 home premium, it has the latest version of Open Office installed which has installed the Java runtime. > > When I first installed and then tried to run Xerte 3 (having configured the location of the flex sdk in the Xerte config file) I obtained an error relating to > > C:\Program Files (86)\Java\jre6\bin\client\jvm.dll > > The solution was to add to the path system variable the folder in which file msvcr71.dll could be found, in this case I added > > ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\ > to the system path. > > Xerte 3 is installed in c:\ Program Files (86)\XerteProject > > I have created a project in Xerte and added a panel to the Application. > > However when I try to build the project I am getting the following displayed in the output window. > > ************ > mxmlc -accessible=true -optimize=true -incremental=true -target-player 10.1 -debug=false LearningObject.mxml -output=C:\xerte3Projects\ProjectTest\bin\LearningObject.swf -library-path+=C:\Progra~1\XerteP~1\Xerte3\lib -source-path=C:\Progra~1\XerteP~1\Xerte3 > > fcsh: Assigned 1 as the compile target id > Loading configuration file C:\FlexHero\frameworks\flex-config.xml > command line: Error: unable to open 'C:\Progra~1\XerteP~1\Xerte3\lib'Use 'mxmlc -help' for information about using the command line.(fcsh) (fcsh) > *************** > > Do I need to be adding further paths to the system path? > Are there problems installing or running Xerte on 64 bit systems? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From mgarciaroca at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 08:10:27 2011 From: mgarciaroca at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marta_Garc=EDa?=) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:10:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> Message-ID: Hello, Have a look to this post to see if that works for you, Cheers! http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2011-February/008216.html 2011/2/11 KnowledgeWare > I have a client who has put up youtube private videos. The videos don?t run > in xerte...when I go directly to the youtube site using the embed address it > gives me a text notice that this is a private video and ?please make sure > you accept the sender?s friend request?. > > > > OH boy...anyone know how I?d do that? I mean have xerte tell it that it?s a > friend? Using toolkits 1.5. > > > > Thanks > > RonM2 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 08:17:50 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:17:50 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If the videos are private, they are private. Xerte can't access them, even if you do accept the friend request... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 11 February 2011 00:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question I have a client who has put up youtube private videos. The videos don't run in xerte...when I go directly to the youtube site using the embed address it gives me a text notice that this is a private video and 'please make sure you accept the sender's friend request'. OH boy...anyone know how I'd do that? I mean have xerte tell it that it's a friend? Using toolkits 1.5. Thanks RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 13:00:47 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:00:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] FW: flv Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> From: mailman-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:mailman-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 09 February 2011 14:09 To: 'xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: flv Hello I am a new user of Xerte Online toolkits. I have had it installed on our Moodle server and I am progressing really well with it. However, I am having trouble with some wmv files which have been converted the required .flv format. It matters not what size I add to the video page as once I change anything here the video image on screen is very blurred and unreadable. We have converted the files at various resolutions and it is either too big once in Xerte on the screen or it sits in a box to tiny to be viewed via an interactive whiteboard? Please can someone help? Regards Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBC862.F1A16EB0] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4863 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 11 13:09:47 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:09:47 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Can't quite get that to work, even in a hardcoded example (text or graphic icon); dave was heredave was here Does it need a fully qualified path or something? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 11 13:17:41 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:17:41 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: >The HTML tags supported are , ,
  • . No tag. Drats. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than

  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 13:49:29 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:49:29 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Message-ID: Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 11 14:05:46 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:05:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007e01cbc9f4$c97fa4e0$5c7eeea0$@co.uk> There isn't a built in way to do this but if you're careful it can be done offline... Export the two LO's and extract the zips Copy and paste the page xml from one to the bottom of the other (obviously minus the top and bottom bits) Copy the media files from one to the other Zip up and import back Edit and re-order the pages accordingly. If it's only a few pages to merge possibly easier to edit both lo's at the same time in two different browsers and copy and paste etc. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 14:12:43 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:12:43 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: <007e01cbc9f4$c97fa4e0$5c7eeea0$@co.uk> References: <007e01cbc9f4$c97fa4e0$5c7eeea0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron Yes that is useful to know. Thanks Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 February 2011 14:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs There isn't a built in way to do this but if you're careful it can be done offline... Export the two LO's and extract the zips Copy and paste the page xml from one to the bottom of the other (obviously minus the top and bottom bits) Copy the media files from one to the other Zip up and import back Edit and re-order the pages accordingly. If it's only a few pages to merge possibly easier to edit both lo's at the same time in two different browsers and copy and paste etc. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 11 14:40:39 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:40:39 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB337@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB337@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Paul, Julian. I tried it out and it's more pain than I can stand. I'll just live with
  • . From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:51:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue.split(?~bull~?).join(String.fromCharCode(8226)) will be marginally quicker, but that?s going to be really fast anyway, even for hundreds of bullets. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 10 February 2011 16:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Another thought: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = replace (unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1, ?~BULL~?, String.fromCharCode(8226)); And insert ~BULL~ in your xml where you want the bullet. Might slow things down when the xml is being parsed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Think that was the char I was looking to replace originally. :)Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references?Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives ?Might work. Shouldn?t break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I?m not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff.Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references?Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {?\u2022 He\?s mad you know, quite mad!?} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 14:40:18 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:40:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E327C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, works, but it won't evaluate your path, so you need to put in the absolute path, not FileLocation, relative to the swf, so you can do media/image.jpg rather than having to know http://server.com/myFolder/media/image.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 February 2011 13:18 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? >The HTML tags supported are , ,
  • . No tag. Drats. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than

  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 14:43:22 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:43:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: <007e01cbc9f4$c97fa4e0$5c7eeea0$@co.uk> Message-ID: The option also exists for some one to write in the functionality that isn't there :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 14:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Hi Ron Yes that is useful to know. Thanks Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 February 2011 14:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs There isn't a built in way to do this but if you're careful it can be done offline... Export the two LO's and extract the zips Copy and paste the page xml from one to the bottom of the other (obviously minus the top and bottom bits) Copy the media files from one to the other Zip up and import back Edit and re-order the pages accordingly. If it's only a few pages to merge possibly easier to edit both lo's at the same time in two different browsers and copy and paste etc. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 14:41:35 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:41:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB337@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3280@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Until you try controlling the colour of 'em.... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 February 2011 14:41 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Thanks Paul, Julian. I tried it out and it's more pain than I can stand. I'll just live with
  • . ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:51:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue.split('~bull~').join(String.fromCharCode(8226)) will be marginally quicker, but that's going to be really fast anyway, even for hundreds of bullets. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 10 February 2011 16:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Another thought: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = replace (unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1, '~BULL~', String.fromCharCode(8226)); And insert ~BULL~ in your xml where you want the bullet. Might slow things down when the xml is being parsed. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:35 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Think that was the char I was looking to replace originally. :) ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:25 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Try entering ASCII char 7 in the xml file. Alt+7 (numeric pad) gives * Might work. Shouldn't break anything. Also String.fromCharCode(8226) produces the bullet glyph, but I'm not sure how you would get that into the xml. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:00 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Had tried that and got the literal. It's being pulled out of an xml table and set via: tempNode.childNodes[2].childNodes[0].nodeValue = unitDataList[iconindex].PAGE[i].MEMO1; I don't know if eval would do it, or it would but break other stuff. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:36:12 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Unicode: \u2022 In a text icon: {'\u2022 He\'s mad you know, quite mad!'} From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:20 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than
  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 14:45:44 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:45:44 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E327C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E327C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3286@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The trouble you've got is that at preview time, the swf is in Program Files/Xerte, so it will be trying to load relative paths from there. If you publish, then the browser will work OK. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 11 February 2011 14:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Yes, works, but it won't evaluate your path, so you need to put in the absolute path, not FileLocation, relative to the swf, so you can do media/image.jpg rather than having to know http://server.com/myFolder/media/image.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 February 2011 13:18 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? >The HTML tags supported are , ,
  • . No tag. Drats. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than

  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 11 14:54:22 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E327C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB1F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E327C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I put the graphic in the same folder as the .rlo. and left it as was: From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:40:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? Yes, works, but it won?t evaluate your path, so you need to put in the absolute path, not FileLocation, relative to the swf, so you can do media/image.jpg rather than having to know http://server.com/myFolder/media/image.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 February 2011 13:18 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references? >The HTML tags supported are , ,
  • . No tag. Drats. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:20:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Entity references?A graphic? He's mad you know, quite mad]]> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 10 February 2011 14:17 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Entity references? Any other way than

  • to represent a bullet? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julia.Stephenson at brunel.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 15:00:08 2011 From: Julia.Stephenson at brunel.ac.uk (Julia Stephenson) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:00:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In-Reply-To: <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FAFF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <005b01cbc915$25f1a240$71d4e6c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Many thanks everyone for all your advice....most helpful and much appreciated :-) Best wishes, Julia ...................................................... Dr Julia Stephenson Lecture Centre LC016 Brunel University Uxbridge UB8 3PH ...................................................... ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 10 February 2011 11:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices In terms of what mobile devices the current flash version of xerte runs on it's actually as much about screen size/resolution as it is about technical compatibility. e.g. technically it runs on all the netbooks/tablets/mobile phones etc (apart from iOS!) that have a compatible flash player and for most of the larger devices it's fine and a great solution. But when it comes to smaller handheld mobile phones/devices even when it's technically compatible practically it's not really suitable e.g. you would have to be very committed to keep zooming in to read the tiny text let alone interactions, or even to use the standard interface to navigate. A new XOT template could be developed which is more optimised for the smaller screens/resolution of these devices but I'm not sure that would be worth the effort required. More likely to be useful would be the kind of proof of concept Pat mentioned which to my mind wouldn't be likely to be able to provide all of the functionality of the flash engine version but if that was integrated so that when viewing on a mobile device there was either a manual or automatic link to the non-flash version of the same LO that would be brilliant! I know the Nottingham team have bid for funding for this kind of work previously and clearly Pat has offered to revisit his proof of concept but perhaps there is a community of interest that could contribute to that? Also there are various JISC funding calls out at the moment that I'm sure could include this kind of development as part of a project if there's a University looking to do something with mobile learning. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 10 February 2011 10:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices It's not straightforward. Right now, Toolkits content will run on Android, but not iOS because Apple don't support the Flash Player, but even that's not perfect. Long term the goal will be to create an app that can consume, parse and render the xml on iOS, but that's a long way down the line. Ron knows better than I how the content works on various mobile devices... Ron? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 10 February 2011 10:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte for mobile devices Hi Julia Xerte Learning objects are embedded flash files which won't play on Apple devices (as they don't support this format). I'm not sure if the chaps have a work-around or if future support for non-flash devices in on the development roadmap. Adam -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julia Stephenson Sent: 10 February 2011 10:06 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Xerte for mobile devices Hi there, I was wondering if you could offer me any advice please? I am about to embark on a project which involves creating Reusable Learning Objects for mobile devices (e.g. iPad, iPod, BlackBerry etc) and was wondering does Xerte allow these Reusable learning objects to be delivered through such mobile devices please? Many thanks, Julia _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Fri Feb 11 18:25:39 2011 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:25:39 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> Any other commerical movie storage sites anyone can suggest for movies that can be played within xerte? Youtube private videos are out...the client wants things private. Anyone used screencast.com,etc? TIA RonM2 From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:18 AM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question If the videos are private, they are private. Xerte can't access them, even if you do accept the friend request. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 11 February 2011 00:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question I have a client who has put up youtube private videos. The videos don't run in xerte...when I go directly to the youtube site using the embed address it gives me a text notice that this is a private video and 'please make sure you accept the sender's friend request'. OH boy...anyone know how I'd do that? I mean have xerte tell it that it's a friend? Using toolkits 1.5. Thanks RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 11 18:41:58 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:41:58 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> Message-ID: How about storing the videos on the client's site, and protecting the video folder with a .htaccess file? A PHP application, like Toolkits, should still be able to access them, but you would not be able to browse the folder if you set up the .htaccess file like the following: # disable directory browsing Options All -Indexes # prevent folder listing IndexIgnore * # prevent access to any file Order Allow,Deny Deny from all I don't use Toolkits, but if it uses a PHP script to access the videos, they should still play. Flash might have a problem, you'll need to test to find out. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:26 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question Any other commerical movie storage sites anyone can suggest for movies that can be played within xerte? Youtube private videos are out...the client wants things private. Anyone used screencast.com,etc? TIA RonM2 From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:18 AM To: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com; Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question If the videos are private, they are private. Xerte can't access them, even if you do accept the friend request... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 11 February 2011 00:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] playing youtube private videos question I have a client who has put up youtube private videos. The videos don't run in xerte...when I go directly to the youtube site using the embed address it gives me a text notice that this is a private video and 'please make sure you accept the sender's friend request'. OH boy...anyone know how I'd do that? I mean have xerte tell it that it's a friend? Using toolkits 1.5. Thanks RonM2 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 22:15:55 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:15:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: playing youtube private videos question In-Reply-To: <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xerte at davosmith.co.uk Mon Feb 14 17:48:03 2011 From: xerte at davosmith.co.uk (Davo Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:48:03 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Online toolkits - import? Message-ID: I've been playing around with the Xerte Online Toolkits for a couple of weeks and have been very impressed (enough to convince our college to host a copy of it, to see if a few more teachers will take it up). One thing that is puzzling me though, is that I can't find any way to get an editable version of a project from one site to another - there seems to be options to export as a zip/scorm, to share or give the project to someone else on the same site or to share as XML, but I can't find any option to Import this back in again. This would be helpful for a couple of reasons: 1. backup - just in case my hosting hits a glitch, or I accidentally click 'delete' on the wrong item 2. transfer to college's hosted version - I've got a few projects I've started on my own site; I'd now like to move them to the version in college. Is this something that is currently possible? Or is it something that will need further development? Davo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knowledgeware at kccsoft.com Mon Feb 14 20:45:40 2011 From: knowledgeware at kccsoft.com (KnowledgeWare) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:45:40 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Question re FLV video sizing in toolkits In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000d01cbcc88$24bce990$6e36bcb0$@com> Using toolkits 1.5 - on the FLV movie page and on the youtube movie page there is a little magnifying glass toggle which toggles the movie to a large size. On the youtube videos this takes the movie full screen size (fills the entire form), on the FLV page it seems to take it to about 80% of screen width with a border around it. What controls the size the movie is toggled to? Is the movie size itself the major factor? Does anyone know a way to toggle the FLV's full screen (like the youtubes - they look really good full screen). TIA RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 08:17:07 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:17:07 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Online toolkits - import? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Download as a zip file from the one server. Login to toolkits on the other server and click on "workspace" then click "properties". Should then see an option to import. [cid:image001.png at 01CBCCE8.BBED2130] HPH Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John Tel: 01752 636700 Ext: 5673 | Room: 114 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davo Smith Sent: 14 February 2011 17:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Online toolkits - import? I've been playing around with the Xerte Online Toolkits for a couple of weeks and have been very impressed (enough to convince our college to host a copy of it, to see if a few more teachers will take it up). One thing that is puzzling me though, is that I can't find any way to get an editable version of a project from one site to another - there seems to be options to export as a zip/scorm, to share or give the project to someone else on the same site or to share as XML, but I can't find any option to Import this back in again. This would be helpful for a couple of reasons: 1. backup - just in case my hosting hits a glitch, or I accidentally click 'delete' on the wrong item 2. transfer to college's hosted version - I've got a few projects I've started on my own site; I'd now like to move them to the version in college. Is this something that is currently possible? Or is it something that will need further development? Davo This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7320 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 09:59:21 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:59:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Question re FLV video sizing in toolkits In-Reply-To: <000d01cbcc88$24bce990$6e36bcb0$@com> References: <000901cbc982$09ad12a0$1d0737e0$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FB3A0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <00bd01cbca19$162c8280$42858780$@com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000d01cbcc88$24bce990$6e36bcb0$@com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3B43@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Look at the code in the textVideo.rlm and the code in the youtube.rlm and see - you can probably easily change the code in the textVideo.rlm to suit. They are different because they are different controllers in there: one is Xerte's native flv player, the other is the embedded chrome-less youtube player, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare Sent: 14 February 2011 20:46 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Question re FLV video sizing in toolkits Using toolkits 1.5 - on the FLV movie page and on the youtube movie page there is a little magnifying glass toggle which toggles the movie to a large size. On the youtube videos this takes the movie full screen size (fills the entire form), on the FLV page it seems to take it to about 80% of screen width with a border around it. What controls the size the movie is toggled to? Is the movie size itself the major factor? Does anyone know a way to toggle the FLV's full screen (like the youtubes - they look really good full screen). TIA RonM2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From franck-petit at live.fr Tue Feb 15 10:53:26 2011 From: franck-petit at live.fr (Franck Petit) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:53:26 +0400 Subject: [Xerte] Problems playing a Youtube video Message-ID: Problems playing a Youtube video Hi, I already read the previous threads on this issue, downloaded and installed the updated youtube.rml, but with no result. The embedded video won't load on the LO's youtube page. Can anyone help? Cheers, Franck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 10:56:49 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:56:49 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From franck-petit at live.fr Tue Feb 15 10:58:05 2011 From: franck-petit at live.fr (Franck Petit) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:58:05 +0400 Subject: [Xerte] Problems playing a Youtube video with XOT Message-ID: I send the message again since I forgot to mention that this issue relates to XOT. Problems playing a Youtube video with XOT Hi, I already read the previous threads on this issue, downloaded and installed the updated youtube.rml, but with no result. The embedded video won't load on the LO's youtube page. I run XOT on a web server. Can anyone help? Cheers, Franck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 11:06:51 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:06:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Problems playing a Youtube video with XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Frank Don't forget to clear the cache on your browser and then re-add the youtube page. I had issues when I re-downloaded and I think it took a restart of the web server and local cache clearing to fix. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Franck Petit Sent: 15 February 2011 10:58 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Problems playing a Youtube video with XOT I send the message again since I forgot to mention that this issue relates to XOT... Problems playing a Youtube video with XOT Hi, I already read the previous threads on this issue, downloaded and installed the updated youtube.rml, but with no result. The embedded video won't load on the LO's youtube page. I run XOT on a web server. Can anyone help? Cheers, Franck This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 11:25:46 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:25:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube template Message-ID: <005501cbcd03$1996f2b0$4cc4d810$@co.uk> I clicked on reply to the message below and hadn't noticed it went direct rather than to the list so for the benefit of the list... Try ticking the box to 'use old embed code' I'm not 100% sure but I think the previous change of youtube.rlm file was to accommodate a previous change that YouTube made to their code and not the current change where by default the embed code is an iframe which doesn't work. Copying the old embed code works fine. -----Original Message----- From: Franck Petit [mailto:franck-petit at LIVE.FR] Sent: 15 February 2011 10:45 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK; Ron Mitchell Subject: Re: YouTube template Hi, I've downloaded and installed the new youtube.rml file but the video won't load. Anyone found a solution? Cheers, Franck -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 15-02-2011-10-49-20-5406.png Type: image/png Size: 20883 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 11:37:56 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:37:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 11:55:17 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:55:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 11:56:35 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:56:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 13:27:29 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:27:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence J Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. . but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 13:39:14 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:39:14 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: YouTube template In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3C59@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <005501cbcd03$1996f2b0$4cc4d810$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3C59@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <009401cbcd15$be8cfff0$3ba6ffd0$@co.uk> Thanks this cropped up during a training event recently and I hadn't realised there was another update to the youtube.rlm to accommodate the default iframe code now. For those who use the TechDis sandpit the site now has the updated .rlm Also worth mentioning (for those new to Xerte etc) that this doesn't mean that Xerte/Flash now supports iframes and/or iframe embed code from other sites! It just means that Julian has quickly added some code so that both the new and old embed code from YouTube works for old and new Xerte LO's. Therefore also worth mentioning and repeating how great that support from the Nottingham is! Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 11:47 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: YouTube template Probably not. It's attached. -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:30 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: YouTube template The Youtube.rlm that Julian/Pat attached to the Xerte list supported the new iframe embed code as that's what I'm using. Perhaps it hasn't made it in to the full build yet though. -----Original Message----- From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 11:26 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: YouTube template I clicked on reply to the message below and hadn't noticed it went direct rather than to the list so for the benefit of the list... Try ticking the box to 'use old embed code' I'm not 100% sure but I think the previous change of youtube.rlm file was to accommodate a previous change that YouTube made to their code and not the current change where by default the embed code is an iframe which doesn't work. Copying the old embed code works fine. -----Original Message----- From: Franck Petit [mailto:franck-petit at LIVE.FR] Sent: 15 February 2011 10:45 To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK; Ron Mitchell Subject: Re: YouTube template Hi, I've downloaded and installed the new youtube.rml file but the video won't load. Anyone found a solution? Cheers, Franck University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 13:39:45 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:39:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs In-Reply-To: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> Message-ID: I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request :) But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 15:15:32 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:15:32 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Message-ID: Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 15:28:51 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:28:51 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. activex_settings.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy _____ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 15:38:37 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:38:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBCD26.69E7A070] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 15:39:08 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:39:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Ron! This was exactly what I was looking for. Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. [Description: activex_settings.jpg] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [Description: Image removed by sender.] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [Description: Image removed by sender.] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD000.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: ~WRD000.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 15:52:48 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:52:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E51@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you can change the browser settings on your network, then for the INTRANET zone, you can safely set Initialise and Script AX Controls not marked as safe for scripting' to enable: this enables controls for pages on your domain, which you are in charge of. If you mostly serve xerte content to users on your own network / domain, this is the relevant setting. For the INTERNET zone, you could set it to prompt, although that comes with a note of caution, as you don't know what users will agree to when prompted, so that's not necessarily a recommendation... it will make it easier for Xerte to run the TTS engine, but it also makes your computers more vulnerable. If users are hitting your content from home / elsewhere, then they will need to set their browser setting to prompt for the INTERNET zone to get TTS to work. They should only accept prompts when loading Xerte content - not from anywhere else presumably. If they don't need TTS, they can leave the settings alone. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBCD28.1F5D8680] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 16:28:21 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:28:21 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> I'm wondering if one setting prompts for the control if it's already installed and the other (the unsigned one) prompts for it to download if it's not already available? I just seem to recall having to change that setting in order to get it to work on presentation machines when delivering training. However I could be wrong as it's often a last minute thing to try to get working before a training session and often on machines that have all the settings locked down. Not sure I can properly test on my laptop because it works already which obviously means that the control is already available. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. activex_settings.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy _____ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 16:31:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:31:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3EBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The only one I've ever had to change is 'Initialise and script Active X Controls not marked as safe for scripting'. Pretty certain about that. The ActiveX control in question is the Microsoft SAPI one, and it's part of windows: it doesn't need downloading. Why they can't mark it as safe beats me: why shouldn't Microsoft software distributed as part of a Microsoft OS running in a Microsoft browser be anything other than completely safe? ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers I'm wondering if one setting prompts for the control if it's already installed and the other (the unsigned one) prompts for it to download if it's not already available? I just seem to recall having to change that setting in order to get it to work on presentation machines when delivering training. However I could be wrong as it's often a last minute thing to try to get working before a training session and often on machines that have all the settings locked down. Not sure I can properly test on my laptop because it works already which obviously means that the control is already available. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBCD2D.C9124030] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 16:43:03 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:43:03 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3EBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3EBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001501cbcd2f$6c7ab850$457028f0$@co.uk> Well in changing setting on my laptop to try to verify this I'm now not getting any sound from the TTS :-( I get sound from other sources and still get prompted when selecting the TTS options but when I then tab around no TTS is heard - which I hadn't tried testing this now! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 16:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The only one I've ever had to change is 'Initialise and script Active X Controls not marked as safe for scripting'. Pretty certain about that. The ActiveX control in question is the Microsoft SAPI one, and it's part of windows: it doesn't need downloading. Why they can't mark it as safe beats me: why shouldn't Microsoft software distributed as part of a Microsoft OS running in a Microsoft browser be anything other than completely safe? ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers I'm wondering if one setting prompts for the control if it's already installed and the other (the unsigned one) prompts for it to download if it's not already available? I just seem to recall having to change that setting in order to get it to work on presentation machines when delivering training. However I could be wrong as it's often a last minute thing to try to get working before a training session and often on machines that have all the settings locked down. Not sure I can properly test on my laptop because it works already which obviously means that the control is already available. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. activex_settings.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy _____ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From xerte at davosmith.co.uk Tue Feb 15 18:27:10 2011 From: xerte at davosmith.co.uk (Davo Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:27:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Online toolkits - import? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that - it worked great, but I'd have never found it without help. Maybe it's an option that should move somewhere more obvious (along with moving all the different 'export' options out of the 'properties' window and onto their own button)? Davo On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adam Read wrote: > Download as a zip file from the one server. Login to toolkits on the > other server and click on ?workspace? then click ?properties?. Should then > see an option to import. > > > > > > HPH > > > > Adam > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > *Adam Read > *e-Learning Technologist > Learning and Quality Unit > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John > *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 114 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Davo Smith > *Sent:* 14 February 2011 17:48 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Online toolkits - import? > > > > I've been playing around with the Xerte Online Toolkits for a couple of > weeks and have been very impressed (enough to convince our college to host a > copy of it, to see if a few more teachers will take it up). > > > > One thing that is puzzling me though, is that I can't find any way to get > an editable version of a project from one site to another - there seems to > be options to export as a zip/scorm, to share or give the project to someone > else on the same site or to share as XML, but I can't find any option to > Import this back in again. > > > > This would be helpful for a couple of reasons: > > 1. backup - just in case my hosting hits a glitch, or I accidentally click > 'delete' on the wrong item > > 2. transfer to college's hosted version - I've got a few projects I've > started on my own site; I'd now like to move them to the version in college. > > > > Is this something that is currently possible? Or is it something that will > need further development? > > > > Davo > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 7320 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 15 21:18:39 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:18:39 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <001501cbcd2f$6c7ab850$457028f0$@co.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3EBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cbcd2f$6c7ab850$457028f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <000001cbcd55$ec790720$c56b1560$@co.uk> This has gotten even more confusing :-( Win 7 IE 8 where TTS has always worked (with the correct settings) but now TTS works with LO's run from USB or HDD, works with LO's viewed via http://localhost but doesn't work with online LO's e.g. the toolkits example at I've reset the default settings and then re-enabled the 'initialise and script Active X controls not marked as safe for scripting' and also tried enabling the 'unsigned' option amongst others. I get the prompt when ticking the TTS box on the LO and the highlights on tabbing through just no audio! :-( Yet as I say it works with local and intranet zone LO's. I also tried making the Internet zone settings identical to the intranet settings but still no joy. I've pasted my current Internet zone settings below which aren't working: Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers Well in changing setting on my laptop to try to verify this I'm now not getting any sound from the TTS :-( I get sound from other sources and still get prompted when selecting the TTS options but when I then tab around no TTS is heard - which I hadn't tried testing this now! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 16:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The only one I've ever had to change is 'Initialise and script Active X Controls not marked as safe for scripting'. Pretty certain about that. The ActiveX control in question is the Microsoft SAPI one, and it's part of windows: it doesn't need downloading. Why they can't mark it as safe beats me: why shouldn't Microsoft software distributed as part of a Microsoft OS running in a Microsoft browser be anything other than completely safe? ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers I'm wondering if one setting prompts for the control if it's already installed and the other (the unsigned one) prompts for it to download if it's not already available? I just seem to recall having to change that setting in order to get it to work on presentation machines when delivering training. However I could be wrong as it's often a last minute thing to try to get working before a training session and often on machines that have all the settings locked down. Not sure I can properly test on my laptop because it works already which obviously means that the control is already available. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think.? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. activex_settings.jpg From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy _____ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 30169 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 03:37:08 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:37:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Online toolkits - import? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: We are a bit short on space buttons wise, but did wonder about maybe having a second set of button underneath the workspace window. Maybe someone could try coding it in, see how it works for them? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davo Smith [xerte at davosmith.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:27 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Online toolkits - import? Thanks for that - it worked great, but I'd have never found it without help. Maybe it's an option that should move somewhere more obvious (along with moving all the different 'export' options out of the 'properties' window and onto their own button)? Davo On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adam Read > wrote: Download as a zip file from the one server. Login to toolkits on the other server and click on ?workspace? then click ?properties?. Should then see an option to import. [cid:image001.png at 01CBCCE8.BBED2130] HPH Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John Tel: 01752 636700 Ext: 5673 | Room: 114 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davo Smith Sent: 14 February 2011 17:48 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Online toolkits - import? I've been playing around with the Xerte Online Toolkits for a couple of weeks and have been very impressed (enough to convince our college to host a copy of it, to see if a few more teachers will take it up). One thing that is puzzling me though, is that I can't find any way to get an editable version of a project from one site to another - there seems to be options to export as a zip/scorm, to share or give the project to someone else on the same site or to share as XML, but I can't find any option to Import this back in again. This would be helpful for a couple of reasons: 1. backup - just in case my hosting hits a glitch, or I accidentally click 'delete' on the wrong item 2. transfer to college's hosted version - I've got a few projects I've started on my own site; I'd now like to move them to the version in college. Is this something that is currently possible? Or is it something that will need further development? Davo This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 07:59:46 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:59:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers In-Reply-To: <001501cbcd2f$6c7ab850$457028f0$@co.uk> References: <00c401cbcd25$34f29bf0$9ed7d3d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3E3B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <000001cbcd2d$5e47d760$1ad78620$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3EBB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001501cbcd2f$6c7ab850$457028f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE2E3F5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> For all zones? Where is the content playing from? The local machine zone can't be easily accessed anymore, but does have its own settings... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers Well in changing setting on my laptop to try to verify this I'm now not getting any sound from the TTS :-( I get sound from other sources and still get prompted when selecting the TTS options but when I then tab around no TTS is heard - which I hadn't tried testing this now! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 16:31 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The only one I've ever had to change is 'Initialise and script Active X Controls not marked as safe for scripting'. Pretty certain about that. The ActiveX control in question is the Microsoft SAPI one, and it's part of windows: it doesn't need downloading. Why they can't mark it as safe beats me: why shouldn't Microsoft software distributed as part of a Microsoft OS running in a Microsoft browser be anything other than completely safe? ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 16:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers I'm wondering if one setting prompts for the control if it's already installed and the other (the unsigned one) prompts for it to download if it's not already available? I just seem to recall having to change that setting in order to get it to work on presentation machines when delivering training. However I could be wrong as it's often a last minute thing to try to get working before a training session and often on machines that have all the settings locked down. Not sure I can properly test on my laptop because it works already which obviously means that the control is already available. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 15 February 2011 15:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers No, it's the one for "Initialise and script active x controls not marked as safe for scripting" to prompt, at least for the TTS - were you thinking of something else? Unsigned ones should be left alone, I think...? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 15:29 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Active X changes in web browsers The main one is changing unsigned activex controls to prompt rather than disabled. Alistair and I were talking about guidnace on this recently and Alistair did a screenshot of his long scrolling list of settings - see attached. [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBCDAF.7A3DC330] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Epps Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Active X changes in web browsers Hi all I have recently rolled out our institutional version of Xerte and remember Ron mentioning that you need to make some active x changes in your institutions browsers. Can somebody please clarify what these changes are as I remember that they make a significant improvement to the end users Xerte experience. Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81303 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 16 10:32:07 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:32:07 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> Message-ID: <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request J But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence J Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. . but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From AMH at ssfc.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 10:46:10 2011 From: AMH at ssfc.ac.uk (Andrew Hardy) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:46:10 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV References: Message-ID: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1F07@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Hi, When adding a video page and try to upload an FLV to play I get a "Connect To" dialog box appear which asks for a username and password. I am using Xerte within the college network but the Xerte installation is on an external web hosting server on the internet. Does anyone have any idea how this can be resolved? Cheers Andy This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 11:37:06 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:37:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV In-Reply-To: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1F07@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> References: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1F07@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Message-ID: It won't be the Xerte code, sounds like authentication on the external server so you'll probably need to talk to them. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Hardy Sent: 16 February 2011 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV Hi, When adding a video page and try to upload an FLV to play I get a "Connect To" dialog box appear which asks for a username and password. I am using Xerte within the college network but the Xerte installation is on an external web hosting server on the internet. Does anyone have any idea how this can be resolved? Cheers Andy This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 11:41:00 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:41:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> Message-ID: Sorry, my mistake The code isn't even commented out, it's just the post variable is never sent. In website_code/php/import/import.php it checks to see if $_POST['replace'] is true. So on the import panel, but in a checkbox or something, name it true, and then add that to the ajax in the javascript From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 10:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request :) But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 16 11:58:10 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:58:10 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <007301cbcdd0$ca0fdd00$5e2f9700$@co.uk> Ok thanks Pat. So just to check before I even try that - if the checkbox is selected and then the form submitted does it then display a list of LO's and ID's to choose from? e.g. which one to replace. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 11:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Sorry, my mistake The code isn't even commented out, it's just the post variable is never sent. In website_code/php/import/import.php it checks to see if $_POST['replace'] is true. So on the import panel, but in a checkbox or something, name it true, and then add that to the ajax in the javascript From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 10:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request J But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence J Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. . but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 11:59:47 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:59:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: <007301cbcdd0$ca0fdd00$5e2f9700$@co.uk> References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> <007301cbcdd0$ca0fdd00$5e2f9700$@co.uk> Message-ID: It replaces the one highlighted From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 11:58 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Ok thanks Pat. So just to check before I even try that - if the checkbox is selected and then the form submitted does it then display a list of LO's and ID's to choose from? e.g. which one to replace. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 11:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Sorry, my mistake The code isn't even commented out, it's just the post variable is never sent. In website_code/php/import/import.php it checks to see if $_POST['replace'] is true. So on the import panel, but in a checkbox or something, name it true, and then add that to the ajax in the javascript From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 10:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request :) But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 16 12:14:06 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:14:06 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> <007301cbcdd0$ca0fdd00$5e2f9700$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00a301cbcdd3$04ec7530$0ec55f90$@co.uk> How? To get to import you have to select workspace which then de-selects whatever LO you might have had selected. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 12:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's It replaces the one highlighted From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 11:58 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Ok thanks Pat. So just to check before I even try that - if the checkbox is selected and then the form submitted does it then display a list of LO's and ID's to choose from? e.g. which one to replace. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 11:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Sorry, my mistake The code isn't even commented out, it's just the post variable is never sent. In website_code/php/import/import.php it checks to see if $_POST['replace'] is true. So on the import panel, but in a checkbox or something, name it true, and then add that to the ajax in the javascript From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 10:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request J But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence J Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. . but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From AMH at ssfc.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 12:12:57 2011 From: AMH at ssfc.ac.uk (Andrew Hardy) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:12:57 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV References: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1F07@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Message-ID: <1BAE9706A3B0564891E684667A68FAAC019F1F0E@ares.SSFC.INTERNAL> Thanks Patrick, yes it seems the IT department have just commissioned a new proxy server which is causing the problem. The trouble is when I authenticate with my account details the dialog closes and Xerte crashes. I'm trying to get an exception added now. Thanks for the help. Andy From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 11:37 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV It won't be the Xerte code, sounds like authentication on the external server so you'll probably need to talk to them. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Hardy Sent: 16 February 2011 10:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Connect To dialog appear when uploading .FLV Hi, When adding a video page and try to upload an FLV to play I get a "Connect To" dialog box appear which asks for a username and password. I am using Xerte within the college network but the Xerte installation is on an external web hosting server on the internet. Does anyone have any idea how this can be resolved? Cheers Andy This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This communication and the information it contains are confidential. The content may be personal, or contain personal opinions, and unless specifically stated or followed up in writing the content cannot be taken to form a contract, or be an expression of Shrewsbury Sixth Form College's position. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 12:23:59 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:23:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's In-Reply-To: <00a301cbcdd3$04ec7530$0ec55f90$@co.uk> References: <008901cbcd14$19f90020$4deb0060$@co.uk> <003101cbcdc4$c4f31460$4ed93d20$@co.uk> <007301cbcdd0$ca0fdd00$5e2f9700$@co.uk> <00a301cbcdd3$04ec7530$0ec55f90$@co.uk> Message-ID: It must have used to live on the properties panel. So it'd need some new code. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 12:14 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's How? To get to import you have to select workspace which then de-selects whatever LO you might have had selected. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 12:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's It replaces the one highlighted From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 11:58 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Ok thanks Pat. So just to check before I even try that - if the checkbox is selected and then the form submitted does it then display a list of LO's and ID's to choose from? e.g. which one to replace. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 16 February 2011 11:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Sorry, my mistake The code isn't even commented out, it's just the post variable is never sent. In website_code/php/import/import.php it checks to see if $_POST['replace'] is true. So on the import panel, but in a checkbox or something, name it true, and then add that to the ajax in the javascript From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 16 February 2011 10:32 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Importing LOs over top of existing LO's Pat - Ok been fishing but didn't catch anything! :-( Found the functions in both the .php and .js files but couldn't find where the option has been commented out. Is it commented out or just not included? Gis a clue where to find it? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 13:40 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs I do like how I try to encourage you lot to maybe try some code out and you end up sending me a request :) But - that code is already in the import file - it's just commented out. So have a fish and you should be able to set it up as an option straight away. I'll put it back in officially when we next release a version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 15 February 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Pat if you were going to work on a merge script I wonder if a related addition would be possible too? e.g. at the moment selecting workspace and then import always creates a new LO which then obviously has a new ID but what people often ask is about importing and replacing/updating an existing LO and keeping the same ID so that existing links and embeds aren't broken. So I wonder if a tick box or use of the same LO name could control updating/replacing rather than creating new but obviously retaining the option to create new instead like a prompt or something. Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs A merge script wouldn't be that much to be honest :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 15 February 2011 11:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs Not really, once I get past echo (); and get/post I'm sort of lost! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 15 February 2011 11:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs It was all going so well till the last sentence :) Adam do you know much PHP? Fancy dabbling? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 15 February 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Re: merging LOs If Xerte is being used alongside another system (eg Moodle, web pages, Intranet etc) I would tend to argue that having smaller disconnected units hyperlinked together from a central page is better, giving more opportunity for differentiation, alternative sequencing and so on. ... but then part of my argument would be because I didn't know how to join them together anyway :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 11 February 2011 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] merging LOs Hi I've had an email from a group of staff/students that are building a number of LOs using toolkits. They asked me how easy (and what the process is) to join the content of the LOs together (e.g. amalgamating say 2 learning objects into 1). Is there a quick way to do this or is it a case of copying content across manually? Any wisdom well received, Adam University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ____________________ This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Please do not disclose, copy, or distribute information in this email nor take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it Please note that views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Higher Education Academy Please note that this e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us Although we have taken steps to ensure this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free The Higher Education Academy Registered No 4930131 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 17 11:09:59 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:09:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support Message-ID: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system that are involved: 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) 2. The templates 3. The content (of the templates) 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) First thoughts: 1. The default player - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down lists and the texts of the TTS system. - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. So lets look at the first solution: * Questions Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? A1. Probably XML. Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as possible (Don't know how). A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library 2. The templates - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in the template file name. - Create template 'resource' files. I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). 3. The content. If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 (or the Xerte 3 plans). Any comments, any thoughts? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 17 11:19:09 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:19:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use Message-ID: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl> L.S., I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. Thanks, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 11:24:59 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:24:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> Message-ID: As for toolkits - the issue would be choosing which version - do you need to give people a choice of language. Or could you just have distinct learning objects? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system that are involved: 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) 2. The templates 3. The content (of the templates) 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) First thoughts: 1. The default player - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down lists and the texts of the TTS system. - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. So lets look at the first solution: * Questions Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? A1. Probably XML. Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as possible (Don't know how). A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library 2. The templates - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in the template file name. - Create template 'resource' files. I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). 3. The content. If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 (or the Xerte 3 plans). Any comments, any thoughts? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 17 11:45:48 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:45:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4D5D0A6C.5020702@tor.nl> There are two different situations: 1. Using the LO Preferably, choice of language.... So you would have to do something to choose the initial language, and probably fiddle with/change the player to add the possibility to change the language. Correct? 2. Create the LO I think you have to decide upfront which language you are going to work on. Different languages are in fact completely different LO's (only related by file names). Tom Op 17-2-2011 12:24, Patrick Lockley schreef: > As for toolkits - the issue would be choosing which version - do you need to give people a choice of language. Or could you just have distinct learning objects? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support > > I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send > it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. > > I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, > i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial > language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. > At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As > far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system > that are involved: > > 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) > 2. The templates > 3. The content (of the templates) > 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) > > First thoughts: > 1. The default player > - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of > the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down > lists and the texts of the TTS system. > - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. > The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. > So lets look at the first solution: > * Questions > Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? > A1. Probably XML. > Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? > A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as > possible (Don't know how). > A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library > > 2. The templates > - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in > the template file name. > - Create template 'resource' files. > I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you > more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it > doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). > > 3. The content. > If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure > that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. > Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in > disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) > > 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, > nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you > will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. > > How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will > be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the > player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side > of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 > (or the Xerte 3 plans). > > Any comments, any thoughts? > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 12:43:23 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:43:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: <4D5D0A6C.5020702@tor.nl> References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> <4D5D0A6C.5020702@tor.nl> Message-ID: Do you need to do both - as 2 sounds simple / currently possible. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 February 2011 11:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support There are two different situations: 1. Using the LO Preferably, choice of language.... So you would have to do something to choose the initial language, and probably fiddle with/change the player to add the possibility to change the language. Correct? 2. Create the LO I think you have to decide upfront which language you are going to work on. Different languages are in fact completely different LO's (only related by file names). Tom Op 17-2-2011 12:24, Patrick Lockley schreef: > As for toolkits - the issue would be choosing which version - do you need to give people a choice of language. Or could you just have distinct learning objects? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support > > I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send > it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. > > I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, > i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial > language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. > At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As > far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system > that are involved: > > 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) > 2. The templates > 3. The content (of the templates) > 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) > > First thoughts: > 1. The default player > - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of > the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down > lists and the texts of the TTS system. > - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. > The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. > So lets look at the first solution: > * Questions > Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? > A1. Probably XML. > Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? > A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as > possible (Don't know how). > A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library > > 2. The templates > - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in > the template file name. > - Create template 'resource' files. > I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you > more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it > doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). > > 3. The content. > If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure > that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. > Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in > disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) > > 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, > nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you > will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. > > How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will > be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the > player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side > of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 > (or the Xerte 3 plans). > > Any comments, any thoughts? > > Regards, > > Tom > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 17 13:05:31 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:05:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> <4D5D0A6C.5020702@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4D5D1D1B.6040102@tor.nl> In the end... yes. And I think I can manage (changing XMLEngine.swf), just was curious what is the best (most appropriate) way to do it, so that I can give it back to you guys. Op 17-2-2011 13:43, Patrick Lockley schreef: > Do you need to do both - as 2 sounds simple / currently possible. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support > > There are two different situations: > 1. Using the LO > Preferably, choice of language.... So you would have to do something to > choose the initial language, and probably fiddle with/change the player > to add the possibility to change the language. Correct? > 2. Create the LO > I think you have to decide upfront which language you are going to work > on. Different languages are in fact completely different LO's (only > related by file names). > > Tom > > Op 17-2-2011 12:24, Patrick Lockley schreef: > >> As for toolkits - the issue would be choosing which version - do you need to give people a choice of language. Or could you just have distinct learning objects? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support >> >> I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send >> it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. >> >> I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, >> i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial >> language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. >> At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As >> far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system >> that are involved: >> >> 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) >> 2. The templates >> 3. The content (of the templates) >> 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) >> >> First thoughts: >> 1. The default player >> - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of >> the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down >> lists and the texts of the TTS system. >> - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. >> The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. >> So lets look at the first solution: >> * Questions >> Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? >> A1. Probably XML. >> Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? >> A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as >> possible (Don't know how). >> A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library >> >> 2. The templates >> - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in >> the template file name. >> - Create template 'resource' files. >> I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you >> more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it >> doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). >> >> 3. The content. >> If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure >> that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. >> Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in >> disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) >> >> 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, >> nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you >> will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. >> >> How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will >> be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the >> player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side >> of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 >> (or the Xerte 3 plans). >> >> Any comments, any thoughts? >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 13:26:05 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:26:05 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 1. Yes. 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use L.S., I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. Thanks, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 13:42:32 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:42:32 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 17 13:51:40 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:51:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5D27EC.7040603@tor.nl> Thank you, much obliged. Op 17-2-2011 14:26, Julian Tenney schreef: > 1. Yes. > 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use > > L.S., > > I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: > > 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes > to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. > 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the > templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open > source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte > Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 19:54:51 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 19:55:41 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:55:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, J ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use 1. Yes. 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use L.S., I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. Thanks, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 20:35:13 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: That's what I thought based on the Flash help. But scroll=1 does work, they are just present all the time. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:13:01 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:13:01 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 17 21:30:32 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:44:22 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:44:22 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 17 22:03:37 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , Message-ID: icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 17 22:29:14 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:29:14 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , Message-ID: Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Thu Feb 17 22:47:22 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:47:22 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , Message-ID: icontextentry.txt. setStyle('fontSize', 12); I have a V2 Component text entry in one of my pieces that I configure with the following: fsTxt = FSv2.addComponent ('TextInput', {_x:372, _y:330}); fsTxt.setStyle('fontFamily', 'Arial'); fsTxt.setStyle('fontWeight', 'bold'); fsTxt.setStyle('fontSize', 13); fsTxt.setSize(300,22); fsTxt.setFocus(); Maybe setStyle() will work on either icontextentry or icontextentry.txt? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:29 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 18 06:55:13 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:55:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> VLE? Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, > > J > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > 1. Yes. > 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use > > L.S., > > I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: > > 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes > to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. > 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the > templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open > source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte > Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 08:44:51 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:44:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> LMS? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use VLE? Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, > > J > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > 1. Yes. > 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use > > L.S., > > I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: > > 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes > to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. > 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the > templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open > source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte > Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 08:46:04 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> setNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 08:57:59 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:57:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F44@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I would probably: - use an xml resource file, and get the pre-loader to load it before it loads the main engine; - replace the text strings with references to the xml you loaded, using xmlToObject paths, i.e. load the xml then turn it into an object with xmlToObject, then you get resources[0].french[0].tocTitle which you can use to reference the language you loaded for all UI stuff in the default interface. There isn't that much: the accessibility probably counts for the vast majority of it, so look out for accessibility properties being set as well as the buttons / labels. Alternatively, make you own custom interface that does the same thing: no need to mess with the engine that way - but a lot of functionality to replicate if you want something similar to the default interface with all the accessibility stuff. Other people have taken this approach, and it's not hard, but there is still some English left in there through the engine. The text on the buttons is graphic, so either remove the text and just have the symbols, or make the text dynamic - but it looks bad. Try and stay away from different buttons I think, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system that are involved: 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) 2. The templates 3. The content (of the templates) 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) First thoughts: 1. The default player - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down lists and the texts of the TTS system. - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. So lets look at the first solution: * Questions Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? A1. Probably XML. Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as possible (Don't know how). A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library 2. The templates - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in the template file name. - Create template 'resource' files. I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). 3. The content. If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 (or the Xerte 3 plans). Any comments, any thoughts? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 08:59:53 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:59:53 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Multilanguage support In-Reply-To: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> References: <4D5D0207.5020400@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Sorry, Xerte 3 doesn't have any interface stuff: everything is up to you, so you can handle it as you like. Eventually I would like to create a highly accessible interface for Xerte 3.0, but time is the problem... Xerte 3.0 is very easily extensible with your own icons, so feel free to paly around with an interface class. There was some infor recently about how to extend Xerte 3.0. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 17 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Multilanguage support I guess this is more of an architectural question than a how to. I send it to the list because perhaps more people are interested in the subject. I have a request to be able to make multi language learning objects, i.e. preferably by specifying a locale in the URL to choose the initial language, and a drop down list to select one of the available languages. At the moment I am looking at the standalone Xerte 2. environment. As far as I can tell, there are four different parts of the Xerte system that are involved: 1. The player (either custom, or the default player) 2. The templates 3. The content (of the templates) 4. Xerte itself (the authoring environment) First thoughts: 1. The default player - Create a resource file per language that contains all the names of the text items in the user interface, like the labels in the drop down lists and the texts of the TTS system. - Another solution would be to load a different player per language. The most flexible solution, but a maintenance nightmare. So lets look at the first solution: * Questions Q1. What format to make the 'resource' file? A1. Probably XML. Q2. What to do about texts within buttons? A2.a. Remove them and replace them with text strings as much as possible (Don't know how). A2.b Add buttons for each language in the library 2. The templates - Just create a template for each language and encode the language in the template file name. - Create template 'resource' files. I think I would prefer the first solution, because it would give you more flexibility (at the cost of maintainability). But, primarily, it doesn't require any changes on the authoring tools (for the time being). 3. The content. If you select a different template file per language, you can make sure that the content of each template is written to a different XML file. Drawback is that you have to fill in the template a number of times in disjunct sessions. (No quick switching of languages) 4. Also given the choice of a separate template file per language, nothing has to change on the Xerte side of things. As an author, you will be responsible of the correct naming of the files. How will this fit in with Xerte Toolkits? (I would suspect that it will be nice fit, because the only thing that has to be adapted is the player, but I have not enough of a clear picture of the authoring side of things). And last but not least, how will this fit in with Xerte 3 (or the Xerte 3 plans). Any comments, any thoughts? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 18 10:35:43 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:35:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> Ah. Right. The system is called PedIT ( http://www.pedit.no ), No English website at the moment. It is not ready yet. How they/we want to do that? No idea yet. What they want to accomplish though, is enable pupils to create there own small LO's based on templates. The LMS is at the moment primarily used by the Norsk Netskole and the Norsk Globalskole. The former is meant for pupils that cannot reach the mainland because of weather conditions, and the Globalskole is meant for Norwegian ex pats. In the Netherlands the system is used by Edufax for Dutch ex pat children. Since 2009, PedIT is also available to commercial training and consultancy businesses. Therefore my question. Tom Op 18-2-2011 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > LMS? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > VLE? > > Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, >> >> J >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >> >> 1. Yes. >> 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use >> >> L.S., >> >> I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: >> >> 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes >> to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. >> 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the >> templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open >> source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte >> Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 10:36:54 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:36:54 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46600C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Thanks. Sounds intersting. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 18 February 2011 10:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use Ah. Right. The system is called PedIT ( http://www.pedit.no ), No English website at the moment. It is not ready yet. How they/we want to do that? No idea yet. What they want to accomplish though, is enable pupils to create there own small LO's based on templates. The LMS is at the moment primarily used by the Norsk Netskole and the Norsk Globalskole. The former is meant for pupils that cannot reach the mainland because of weather conditions, and the Globalskole is meant for Norwegian ex pats. In the Netherlands the system is used by Edufax for Dutch ex pat children. Since 2009, PedIT is also available to commercial training and consultancy businesses. Therefore my question. Tom Op 18-2-2011 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > LMS? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > VLE? > > Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, >> >> J >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >> >> 1. Yes. >> 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use >> >> L.S., >> >> I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: >> >> 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes >> to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. >> 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the >> templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open >> source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte >> Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 10:42:36 2011 From: Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk (Harding, Julie) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:42:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Message-ID: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBCF57.D307A8B0] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 10:55:06 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:55:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBCF5A.4D10E430] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 11:09:36 2011 From: Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk (Harding, Julie) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:09:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image002.png at 01CBCF5C.52EE2230] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image003.gif at 01CBCF5C.52EE2230] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image003.gif at 01CBCF5C.52EE2230] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image003.gif URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 11:13:15 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:13:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46604C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you make a sample that doesn't have personal info on? Hard to know where to start without seeing the file... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image001.png at 01CBCF5C.D6BFB560] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF5C.D6BFB560] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF5C.D6BFB560] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From aread at marjon.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 11:15:38 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:15:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Julie That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then make the wmv file available to us? I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a screen segment. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image001.png at 01CBCF5D.2A035240] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF5D.2A035240] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF5D.2A035240] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 11:39:24 2011 From: Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk (Harding, Julie) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:39:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> This zipped up LO has the wmv in and not flv - is that what you need? Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF60.7C2EC100] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then make the wmv file available to us? I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a screen segment. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image003.png at 01CBCF60.7C2EC100] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF60.7C2EC100] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image002.gif at 01CBCF60.7C2EC100] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Test_flv_files.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 3099128 bytes Desc: Test_flv_files.zip URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 11:57:14 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:57:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4660E6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You're going to struggle because the video is 800x600 and you don't have that much space in Xerte, so the video will resize and it will look ropey. I'd cut my losses at this point and do the following: - upload the wmv directly into your project. Highlight the project, goto properties, media and quota, and upload the file there. Once it's uploaded, get it's url by clicking on it. -Create a plain text page in toolkits ad ink to the fil from there. When you click the link it will open in its own window and you can play it. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page This zipped up LO has the wmv in and not flv - is that what you need? Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBCF62.93468C90] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then make the wmv file available to us? I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a screen segment. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image002.png at 01CBCF62.93468C90] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBCF62.93468C90] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBCF62.93468C90] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From southman at internode.on.net Fri Feb 18 12:17:36 2011 From: southman at internode.on.net (Peter Snowball) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:17:36 +1100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5E6360.80601@internode.on.net> If its is any help we have used microsoft expression screen capture ( max 9 minutes in free version) to produce wmv with audio etc. its highly editable and a great advance on media encoder 9 which was also free (but no time limit). We have converted to flv with format factory > use page wizards text flv > great result and resolution equal to orignal. The trick with screen capture with small fonts etc for use in exerte seems to be to capture a portion of a screen equal to the size you will display in xerte as when you make the flv full size it still fits "inside" the xerte player. So you will loose resolution if you are capturing fine detail because it gets shrunk. It would be nice to have a native player at full screen with Xerte controls so you have the option make it fill the whole screen (like utube). Click to return to within xerte player. Peter Snowball Dept Of Economic Development Tasmania On 18/02/2011 10:39 PM, Harding, Julie wrote: > > This zipped up LO has the wmv in and not flv -- is that what you need? > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > : www.oldham.ac.uk > : www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 11:16 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi Julie > > That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard > videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then > make the wmv file available to us? > > I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. > This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why > I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a > screen segment. > > Adam > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Harding, > Julie > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 11:10 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi > > I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. > The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner > information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or > lack of!!) that appears on the IWB > > The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO > and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this > helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration > tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles > right now. > > Thank you > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 10:55 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi Julie > > Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is > difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in > the flesh. > > I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of > software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. > > Adam > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Harding, > Julie > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 10:43 > *To:* 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' > *Subject:* [Xerte] flv files - media/video page > > Hello > > I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly > thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would > be VERY grateful if someone could assist. > > We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with > narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to > convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a > media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen > and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size > window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the > same video and changed the video size in various increments on the > media/video page but to no avail. > > Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really > simple now -- wood for trees etc!! > > We have a whole college development day the week after next and really > need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The > first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration > it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! > > Many thanks > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web:www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web:www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 18 14:00:03 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:00:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Redirect to URL outside Xerte Message-ID: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> L.S., After a quiz, I want to redirect to a URL outside Xerte. Any pointers? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 14:01:01 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:01:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte In-Reply-To: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> References: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Use html to code a link in the final feedback, or from the next page. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 18 February 2011 14:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Redirect to URL outside Xerte L.S., After a quiz, I want to redirect to a URL outside Xerte. Any pointers? Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 18 14:16:11 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:16:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5E7F2B.5010507@tor.nl> Sorry, I was not clear enough. I want to this from a (Xerte) script. Different URL based on the score. Op 18-2-2011 15:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > Use html to code a link in the final feedback, or from the next page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 14:00 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Redirect to URL outside Xerte > > L.S., > > After a quiz, I want to redirect to a URL outside Xerte. > Any pointers? > > Tom > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 14:18:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:18:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte In-Reply-To: <4D5E7F2B.5010507@tor.nl> References: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E7F2B.5010507@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661D4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> getURL('http://yourURL?param=something', '_blank'); -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 18 February 2011 14:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte Sorry, I was not clear enough. I want to this from a (Xerte) script. Different URL based on the score. Op 18-2-2011 15:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > Use html to code a link in the final feedback, or from the next page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 14:00 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Redirect to URL outside Xerte > > L.S., > > After a quiz, I want to redirect to a URL outside Xerte. > Any pointers? > > Tom > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 14:27:23 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:27:23 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto setNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 14:29:35 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Scrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto setNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 18 14:49:10 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:49:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661D4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5E7B63.2000506@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661BD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E7F2B.5010507@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661D4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D5E86E6.3010005@tor.nl> That did it. Thanks. Op 18-2-2011 15:18, Julian Tenney schreef: > getURL('http://yourURL?param=something', '_blank'); > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 14:16 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Redirect to URL outside Xerte > > Sorry, I was not clear enough. I want to this from a (Xerte) script. > Different URL based on the score. > > > Op 18-2-2011 15:01, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> Use html to code a link in the final feedback, or from the next page. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 18 February 2011 14:00 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Redirect to URL outside Xerte >> >> L.S., >> >> After a quiz, I want to redirect to a URL outside Xerte. >> Any pointers? >> >> Tom >> >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 15:19:22 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:19:22 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Scrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autosetNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 15:21:58 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46624D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Scrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto setNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 15:28:56 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:28:56 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46624D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46624D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'll write off 3 months and restart the project. :) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto It?s better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoScrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autosetNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 15:30:49 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:30:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46624D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466256@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good lad. Just say to yourself it always better second time round. It will help. When I got into Flash stuff from AW, I was also stunned to find that text fields needed about half a page of code to set up. ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I'll write off 3 months and restart the project. :) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto It's better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Scrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto setNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto icontextentryFormat = new TextFormat(); icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Shouldn't it be _height? >From Flash help: _height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. Example The following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200; my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 15:47:29 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466256@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4661F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46624D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466256@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Good lad. Just say to yourself it always better second time round. It will help. Can't doubt you. It was true of prison. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I'll write off 3 months and restart the project. :)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoIt?s better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoScrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autosetNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aott at glam.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 17:03:15 2011 From: aott at glam.ac.uk (Ott A (AT)) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:03:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Subscript or superscript in Xerte In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was wondering if it is possible to create subscripts and superscripts in Xerte. I tried to use Latex for the math symbols, but it is not exactly what I was looking for: it does not work very well within a sentence. Is my only other option to embed some fonts in the resources.swf file as discussed previously in 2009. If yes, could somebody please tell me how to do this. Many thanks, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: 18 February 2011 15:47 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 12, Issue 42 Send Xerte mailing list submissions to xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Text Entry scroll = auto (Dave Burnett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:29 -0500 From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > Good lad. Just say to yourself it always better second time round. It will help. Can't doubt you. It was true of prison. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I'll write off 3 months and restart the project. :)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoIt?s better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Not scrolling exactly. Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen I can't believe this is so complicated. At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. Insert, drag to size, that's it. ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoScrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Thanks Julian. That did it. Still don't get it though. If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: icontextentry.txt._height = 20; icontextentry.txt._width = 300; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.border = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; myTF = new TextFormat(); myTF.font = "Verdana"; myTF.size = 14; icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); setFocus(icontextentry.txt); What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autosetNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Should it be: icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); In either case, no joy. Set the input font and size in the LO. No change. This is funny. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Yes, thanks Paul. I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. icontextentry.txt.height = 20; icontextentry.txt.background = true; icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; setFocus(icontextentry.txt); Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. Simple example 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte End of Xerte Digest, Vol 12, Issue 42 ************************************* From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 18 18:05:33 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:05:33 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Subscript or superscript in Xerte In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Put a new folder on the desktop. Put *all* the fonts in there your piece uses. (If you choose embedded fonts in the LO, no fonts other than those in resources.swf will display) Choose compile library from the File menu. Back up then replace all instances of resources.swf in the Xerte folder and subfolders (else the default resources.swf file will be published). > From: aott at glam.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:03:15 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Subscript or superscript in Xerte > > I was wondering if it is possible to create subscripts and superscripts in Xerte. I tried to use Latex for the math symbols, but it is not exactly what I was looking for: it does not work very well within a sentence. Is my only other option to embed some fonts in the resources.swf file as discussed previously in 2009. If yes, could somebody please tell me how to do this. Many thanks, Alex. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Sent: 18 February 2011 15:47 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Xerte Digest, Vol 12, Issue 42 > > Send Xerte mailing list submissions to > xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xerte-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xerte-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Xerte digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Text Entry scroll = auto (Dave Burnett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:29 -0500 > From: Dave Burnett > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > Good lad. Just say to yourself it always better second time round. It will help. > Can't doubt you. > It was true of prison. > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 18 February 2011 15:29 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto I'll write off 3 months and restart the project. > :)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:21:58 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoIt?s better in Flex, trust me. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 18 February 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto > Not scrolling exactly. > Even if you specify _height and _width, without setting maxchars, the text continues to wrap and expand the input area downward. > > In an effort to avoid using maxChars, (which I would like to, as this is a proto interaction) I added: > > icontextentry.txt.multiline = false; > icontextentry.txt.wordWrap = false; > > If I use multiline = false; the input box collapses to a single character width. > If I use wordWrap = false; the input box continues expanding to the right until it's off screen > > I can't believe this is so complicated. > At least Flash could have learned one thing from AW. > Insert, drag to size, that's it. > ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:35 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoScrolling was it? Would any engine-side support help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 18 February 2011 14:27 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto > Thanks Julian. That did it. > > Still don't get it though. > > If I create a new text object, I can see using setTextFormat, as it would be a "blank" object with no inheritance. > > But if I'm using the default .txt object, it seems to use the properties applied in the icon, *except if there is no text in the field to begin with*. > And using setNewTextFormat seems to imply those properties are already there. > > So to get a blank, single line, limited width, non-scrolling, non-collapsing, input text field with the correct font/size: > > icontextentry.txt._height = 20; > icontextentry.txt._width = 300; > icontextentry.txt.background = true; > icontextentry.txt.border = true; > icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; > icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; > icontextentry.txt.maxChars = 40; > myTF = new TextFormat(); > myTF.font = "Verdana"; > myTF.size = 14; > icontextentry.txt.setNewTextFormat(myTF); > setFocus(icontextentry.txt); > > > What was the advantage over a regular text entry again? > ;-)From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:46:04 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autosetNewTextFormat() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: 17 February 2011 22:29 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto > Should it be: > icontextentry.txt.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); > > In either case, no joy. > > Set the input font and size in the LO. > No change. This is funny. > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:03:37 -0800 > From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoicontextentryFormat = new TextFormat();icontextentryFormat.size = 12; // 12 point icontextentry.setTextFormat(icontextentryFormat); Does that do anything? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:44 PM > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto > Yes, thanks Paul. > I was suckered by inspect showing "height" and "height" going blue in the code window. > > So now if there is no text in the field to begin with, the box doesn't collapse, but the text is some tiny default, even if I set it explicitly in the icon. > This is quite the PITA for a simple text entry. I forget Flash really does suck in some regards.Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:30:32 -0800 > From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoShouldn?t it be _height? From Flash help:_height Property public _height : Number Player version: Flash Player 6 The height of the text field in pixels. ExampleThe following code example sets the height and width of a text field: my_txt._width = 200;my_txt._height = 200; You might also try applying a CSS style that sets the font-size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:13 PM > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = auto Trying the text icon. > > icontextentry.txt.height = 20; > icontextentry.txt.background = true; > icontextentry.txt.type = 'input'; > icontextentry.txt.selectable = true; > setFocus(icontextentry.txt); > > Unless I have text in the icon to begin with, it collapses down to about 2 pixels high. > (tried textHeight too).From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:54:51 +0000 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text Entry scroll = autoI dont think the text entries are set up to scroll: I use a normal text icon in such situations and set events on iconID.txt.onChanged From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] > Sent: 17 February 2011 13:42 > To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry scroll = auto > Doesn't seem to want to scroll when set to auto. > > Simple example > 0,0,100,100, match this, scrolling=auto, border=1, erase=1, exit=0 > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > End of Xerte Digest, Vol 12, Issue 42 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 04:38:40 2011 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:38:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> Message-ID: <379091602-1298090322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077647771-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Why not to use Moodle? Jos? Gregorio. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reijnders Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.ukDate: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:35:43 To: Xerte discussion list Reply-To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use Ah. Right. The system is called PedIT ( http://www.pedit.no ), No English website at the moment. It is not ready yet. How they/we want to do that? No idea yet. What they want to accomplish though, is enable pupils to create there own small LO's based on templates. The LMS is at the moment primarily used by the Norsk Netskole and the Norsk Globalskole. The former is meant for pupils that cannot reach the mainland because of weather conditions, and the Globalskole is meant for Norwegian ex pats. In the Netherlands the system is used by Edufax for Dutch ex pat children. Since 2009, PedIT is also available to commercial training and consultancy businesses. Therefore my question. Tom Op 18-2-2011 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > LMS? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > VLE? > > Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, >> >> J >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >> >> 1. Yes. >> 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use >> >> L.S., >> >> I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: >> >> 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes >> to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. >> 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the >> templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open >> source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte >> Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 04:36:30 2011 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:36:30 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl> Message-ID: <1550730113-1298090190-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-950711530-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Virtual Learning Environment ? Jos? Gregorio. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reijnders Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.ukDate: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:55:13 To: Xerte discussion list Reply-To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use VLE? Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, > > J > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > 1. Yes. > 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] > Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use > > L.S., > > I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: > > 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes > to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. > 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the > templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open > source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte > Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From creativeriti at yahoo.co.in Sat Feb 19 10:13:22 2011 From: creativeriti at yahoo.co.in (ritima tripathi) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:43:22 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Xerte] Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59381.86915.qm@web95905.mail.in.yahoo.com> I want to get detailed about the Hot Text Feature of Xerte 2.5. I am also not finding source code of Xerte 2.5 on any website linked to the Xerte 2.5. So please help me in these two matters. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Feb 19 10:13:50 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:13:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <379091602-1298090322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077647771-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> <379091602-1298090322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077647771-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4D5F97DE.3060608@tor.nl> Because this request/idea is from the people who make PedIT... :-) Op 19-2-2011 5:38, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda schreef: > Why not to use Moodle? > > Jos? Gregorio. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Reijnders > Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.ukDate: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:35:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > Ah. Right. The system is called PedIT ( http://www.pedit.no ), No > English website at the moment. It is not ready yet. > > How they/we want to do that? No idea yet. What they want to accomplish > though, is enable pupils to create there own small LO's based on templates. > > The LMS is at the moment primarily used by the Norsk Netskole and the > Norsk Globalskole. The former is meant for pupils that cannot reach the > mainland because of weather conditions, and the Globalskole is meant for > Norwegian ex pats. In the Netherlands the system is used by Edufax for > Dutch ex pat children. > > Since 2009, PedIT is also available to commercial training and > consultancy businesses. Therefore my question. > > Tom > > > Op 18-2-2011 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> LMS? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >> >> VLE? >> >> Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >>> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, >>> >>> J >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >>> Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >>> >>> 1. Yes. >>> 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use >>> >>> L.S., >>> >>> I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: >>> >>> 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes >>> to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. >>> 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the >>> templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open >>> source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte >>> Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From pawankumar.mall at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 10:09:51 2011 From: pawankumar.mall at gmail.com (pawan kumar mall) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:39:51 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] HotText Message-ID: hi all how to associate an action script with hot Text Xerte 2.5 Any help would be greatly appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 12:28:35 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:28:35 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: HotText In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Set a script icon property isFunc to 1. Name the icon myFunction. In a text icon, call the function. Here is hot text Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:39:51 +0530 From: pawankumar.mall at gmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] HotText hi all how to associate an action script with hot Text Xerte 2.5 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkp.alok at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 12:43:07 2011 From: gkp.alok at gmail.com (ALOK TRIPATHI) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:13:07 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] hot text and source code of xerte 2.5 Message-ID: I want to learn more about hot text feature in Xerte 2.5.I also want to get source code for Xerte 2.5.Please help me in this regard -- Alok Tripathi Scientist 'D' DOEACC SOCIETY, GORAKHPUR CENTRE (A unit Of DOEACC Society,An Autonomous Body Of Department of Information Technology,Ministry of Communications and Information Technology) (M)8953012327 (M)9336403724 (O)0551-2273872 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 14:04:48 2011 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:04:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use In-Reply-To: <4D5F97DE.3060608@tor.nl> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D5E17D1.9030203@tor.nl><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><4D5E4B7F.6010804@tor.nl> <379091602-1298090322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1077647771-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><4D5F97DE.3060608@tor.nl> Message-ID: <11356940-1298124289-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-235583185-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Oh! ... Got it :) Here we passed for something similar and the boss said: "Do not reinvent the wheel, our goal is to teach, no matter what it takes" So we have our system, moodle and docebo. Good luck! Jos? Gregorio. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reijnders Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:13:50 To: ; Xerte discussion list Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use Because this request/idea is from the people who make PedIT... :-) Op 19-2-2011 5:38, Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda schreef: > Why not to use Moodle? > > Jos? Gregorio. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Reijnders > Sender: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.ukDate: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:35:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use > > Ah. Right. The system is called PedIT ( http://www.pedit.no ), No > English website at the moment. It is not ready yet. > > How they/we want to do that? No idea yet. What they want to accomplish > though, is enable pupils to create there own small LO's based on templates. > > The LMS is at the moment primarily used by the Norsk Netskole and the > Norsk Globalskole. The former is meant for pupils that cannot reach the > mainland because of weather conditions, and the Globalskole is meant for > Norwegian ex pats. In the Netherlands the system is used by Edufax for > Dutch ex pat children. > > Since 2009, PedIT is also available to commercial training and > consultancy businesses. Therefore my question. > > Tom > > > Op 18-2-2011 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef: > >> LMS? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 18 February 2011 06:55 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >> >> VLE? >> >> Op 17-2-2011 20:55, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> >>> Yes, as long as you don't then redistribute it, you can do that. What's the VLE? Be good to know how you do it, if you can share, >>> >>> J >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] >>> Sent: 17 February 2011 13:26 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Legal question on commercial use >>> >>> 1. Yes. >>> 2. Not sure. I think you can as long as you don't then redistribute the combined system. I'm going to check that out for you though. >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] >>> Sent: 17 February 2011 11:19 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Legal question on commercial use >>> >>> L.S., >>> >>> I've got two commercial projects that I have a question about: >>> >>> 1. Can I use Xerte (standalone) to create commercial LO's? Any changes >>> to Xerte will be open source, but the content will not. >>> 2. Can I integrate Xerte tool kits within a commercial LMS, i.e. the >>> templates and the changes needed on the Xerte tool kit side will be open >>> source, but the content will be commercial, and the LMS in which Xerte >>> Tool kits will be available is also a commercial hosted system. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From boonsengkam at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 15:48:56 2011 From: boonsengkam at gmail.com (Frankie Kam) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:48:56 +0800 Subject: [Xerte] Using Xerte + Moodle Quiz + Frame = A "new" method of Engaging Students during assessments Message-ID: Hi y'all. I'm working on a new way to present the standard Moodle Quiz module to my students. Psst..here's the secret recipe: I use Xerte 2.15 with a dash of olde so-1996 HTML Frames and mix well with a standard Moodle quiz page. I'm GIVING you the source code to boot too!! Interested? READ ON! I hope to test this type of Blended-Video-text-Quiz to see if it can make for MORE engaging form of Quizzes. One where the student can view an uploaded flv file or a Youtube online video feed. I want to see if the Quiz can be more engaging for the student. You can check a live version at: *http://scm.moodleace.com/xerte2/* Notice the framed webpage with 3 sections? Well the top section is my Moodle webpage. It is meant for my students to login with their username and passwords and then surf to the quiz link on their course. The bottom left section is a menu of links that when clicked upon, will open a video on the right hand-side. The first video "The Chair" is a short/small-sized flv file stored in a folder. The first video will resize as you change the size of the frame by clicking and dragging the gray bars. Cool huh? Give it a TRY! The second link ("Xerte Fun") when clicked will link to a Xerte object that in turn opens up a Youtube video. Unlike the first video ("The Chair"), I, for the love of me, am unable as yet to get the bottom right video frame to resize dynamically. Does anyone know how to do this (refer to my "The Chair" video box - see how nicely that one resizes with the changing dimensions of the scroll bars)? I mentioned that I'm giving out the source code too right? HTML, Xerte project files. The works. All you need to do is to download and install Xerte 2.15 or Xerte 2.1 on your PC and to email me. If you want the Xerte & HTML source code of this mini-project of mine, please email to: *boonsengkam *at *gmail *dot *com* regards Frankie Kam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Feb 19 18:28:42 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:28:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using Xerte + Moodle Quiz + Frame = A "new" method of Engaging Students during assessments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D600BDA.5010406@tor.nl> Please send me the code. Curious how you did it... Regards, Tom Op 19-2-2011 16:48, Frankie Kam schreef: > *boonsengkam *at *gmail *dot *com* -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sat Feb 19 19:20:06 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:20:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using Xerte + Moodle Quiz + Frame = A "new" method of Engaging Students during assessments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D6017E6.8040209@tor.nl> To have the Xerte Window of the second example behave like that of the first: Set the Display mode property of the Interface to 'full window'. You also may want to try 'full screen'. It will fill the window, while maintaining the aspect ratio of Xerte. Regards, Tom Op 19-2-2011 16:48, Frankie Kam schreef: > > Hi y'all. > > I'm working on a new way to present the standard Moodle Quiz module to > my students. > Psst..here's the secret recipe: I use Xerte 2.15 with a dash of olde > so-1996 HTML Frames > and mix well with a standard Moodle quiz page. I'm GIVING you the > source code to boot too!! Interested? READ ON! > > I hope to test this type of Blended-Video-text-Quiz to see if it can > make for MORE > engaging form of Quizzes. One where the student can view an uploaded > flv file or a > Youtube online video feed. I want to see if the Quiz can be more > engaging for the > student. > > You can check a live version at: > > *http://scm.moodleace.com/xerte2/* > > Notice the framed webpage with 3 sections? Well the top section is my > Moodle webpage. It is meant for my students to login with their > username and passwords and then surf to the quiz link on their course. > > The bottom left section is a menu of links that when clicked upon, > will open a video on the right hand-side. > > The first video "The Chair" is a short/small-sized flv file stored in > a folder. > The first video will resize as you change the size of the frame by > clicking and dragging the gray bars. Cool huh? Give it a TRY! > > The second link ("Xerte Fun") when clicked will link to a Xerte object > that in turn > opens up a Youtube video. Unlike the first video ("The Chair"), I, for > the love of me, > am unable as yet to get the bottom right video frame to resize > dynamically. > Does anyone know how to do this (refer to my "The Chair" video box - > see how > nicely that one resizes with the changing dimensions of the scroll bars)? > > I mentioned that I'm giving out the source code too right? HTML, Xerte > project files. The works. > All you need to do is to download and install Xerte 2.15 or Xerte 2.1 > on your PC and to email me. > > If you want the Xerte & HTML source code of this mini-project of mine, > please email to: > *boonsengkam *at *gmail *dot *com* > > regards > Frankie Kam > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 21:05:51 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sat Feb 19 22:42:17 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 23:53:41 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:53:41 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkp.alok at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 04:29:46 2011 From: gkp.alok at gmail.com (ALOK TRIPATHI) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:59:46 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] Manuals and user guide Message-ID: I want to get the manuals and user guide for xerte 2.5 because whatever i found on the web is insufficient hence please help me in this regard. -- Alok Tripathi Scientist 'D' DOEACC SOCIETY, GORAKHPUR CENTRE (A unit Of DOEACC Society,An Autonomous Body Of Department of Information Technology,Ministry of Communications and Information Technology) (M)8953012327 (M)9336403724 (O)0551-2273872 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 20 13:13:21 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:13:21 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Strange things. here is a bullet point produces: * here is a bullet point (*=actual bullet graphic) Some leading text here is a bullet point produces: Some leading text here is a bullet point * Anything between the here is a bullet point It gets superceded by here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boonsengkam at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 13:30:57 2011 From: boonsengkam at gmail.com (Frankie Kam) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:30:57 +0800 Subject: [Xerte] Fwd: (Xerte - how to get Youtube vid to play on local PC) In-Reply-To: References: <4D610794.2070608@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hi Tom The second image is what I want to accomplish. I don't see the need for the brown/yellowish bookshelf - it just takes up horizontal real-estate. The second image has the Youtube video filling up the whole bottom-right frame. And when either the horizontal or vertical tool bars get resized, the aspect-ratio of the video is retained. Did you manage to do it? How, pray tell? Frankie Kam Is this what you try to accompish (your webiste) > > > > Or this? YES, THIS ONE!!! > > > > > Tom > > Tom > > It's something to do with this code, which is found in my other *.rlo > files: > > //use "exactFit" to preserve the aspect ratio as the browser window is > resized > rootIcon._xscale = 200; > rootIcon._yscale = 200; > ]]> > > > The above code is not inside the filename youtube.rlo. > But even if I put it inside Youtube.rlo, it doesn't work. > > >Set the Display mode property of the Interface to 'full window'. You > >also may want to try 'full screen'. It will fill the window, while > > maintaining the aspect ratio of Xerte. > > > BTW, I tried the above suggestion, but it didn't work. > > Frankie > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: moz-screenshot-41.png Type: image/png Size: 390271 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: moz-screenshot-42.png Type: image/png Size: 179633 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sun Feb 20 13:44:26 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:44:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Fwd: (Xerte - how to get Youtube vid to play on local PC) In-Reply-To: References: <4D610794.2070608@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4D611ABA.50409@tor.nl> Hi Franky, I did this through the user interface: 1. In the -- Screen Size-- combobox, choose 'full screen' (maintain aspect ratio) or 'full window' (disregard aspect ratio, and fill the frame/window) 2. Than you'll end up with screenshot 1. (You can do this in Xerte , by setting the display mode of the interface. It HAS to be 'full screen' or 'full window' including the space in lowercase letters. 3. Than, in the youtube film, toggle to full screen (the magnifying glass in the botom right corner). I am sure you can toggle this als in the script, but have not investigated that. Regards, Tom Op 20-2-2011 14:30, Frankie Kam schreef: > Hi Tom > > The second image is what I want to accomplish. I don't see the need > for the brown/yellowish bookshelf - it just takes up horizontal > real-estate. The second image has the Youtube video filling up the > whole bottom-right frame. And when either the horizontal or vertical > tool bars get resized, the aspect-ratio of the video is retained. > > Did you manage to do it? How, pray tell? > > Frankie Kam > > Is this what you try to accompish (your webiste) > > > > Or this? YES, THIS ONE!!! > > > > > Tom > >> Tom >> >> It's something to do with this code, which is found in my other >> *.rlo files: >> >> > //use "exactFit" to preserve the aspect ratio as the browser >> window is resized >> rootIcon._xscale = 200; >> rootIcon._yscale = 200; >> ]]> >> >> >> The above code is not inside the filename youtube.rlo. >> But even if I put it inside Youtube.rlo, it doesn't work. >> >> >Set the Display mode property of the Interface to 'full window'. You >> >also may want to try 'full screen'. It will fill the window, while >> > maintaining the aspect ratio of Xerte. >> > >> BTW, I tried the above suggestion, but it didn't work. >> >> Frankie >> > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 390271 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 179633 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Sun Feb 20 14:32:38 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:32:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Adobe Flash CS4 professional question Message-ID: <4D612606.2090805@tor.nl> L.S., I use Adobe Flash CS4 to look at, and customize parts of Xerte. Specifically the XMLEngine. I have 2 PC's running Flash, one with 10.0 and one with 10.0.2 (don't know if that's the cause of the problem). But with the PC with 10.0.2. on it I can't work, edit the XMLEngine.fla, i.e. if I press F9 to open the actions code, I get a message in the status bar that Flash is 'Checking syntax...' and then nothing. Just the wait cursor. I have to kill flash to be able to anything else with it. Both PC's are running Windows 7 64 bit. Have you seen anything like that? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Sun Feb 20 19:57:10 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:57:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adobe Flash CS4 professional question In-Reply-To: <4D612606.2090805@tor.nl> References: <4D612606.2090805@tor.nl> Message-ID: local security settings for flash on the PC? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:32 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Adobe Flash CS4 professional question L.S., I use Adobe Flash CS4 to look at, and customize parts of Xerte. Specifically the XMLEngine. I have 2 PC's running Flash, one with 10.0 and one with 10.0.2 (don't know if that's the cause of the problem). But with the PC with 10.0.2. on it I can't work, edit the XMLEngine.fla, i.e. if I press F9 to open the actions code, I get a message in the status bar that Flash is 'Checking syntax...' and then nothing. Just the wait cursor. I have to kill flash to be able to anything else with it. Both PC's are running Windows 7 64 bit. Have you seen anything like that? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 07:10:35 2011 From: ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com (Ritima Tripathi) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:40:35 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] Query Regarding Hot Text Message-ID: I want to get detailed about the Hot Text Feature of Xerte 2.5. I am also not finding source code of Xerte 2.5 on any website linked to the Xerte 2.5. So please help me in these two matters. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Feb 21 07:39:05 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:39:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D621699.2090809@tor.nl> Have a look at www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte I must say, that the way this request is phrased, it doesn't really encourage any help... Op 21-2-2011 8:10, Ritima Tripathi schreef: > I want to get detailed about the Hot Text Feature of Xerte 2.5. I am > also not finding source code of Xerte 2.5 on any website linked to > the Xerte 2.5. > So please help me in these two matters. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 08:39:25 2011 From: ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com (Ritima Tripathi) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:09:25 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] Query Regarding Hot Text Message-ID: Hello there, I am trying to use *hot text *feature in the text box given in Xerte 2.x. While using it for a particular text for eg *Router2 *it shows following code. *Router2* And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg *Router2*clickable but it is not showing any response. Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? Please help me in this matter. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Feb 21 08:57:30 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:57:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D6228FA.2000809@tor.nl> Please see this answer: http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2011-February/008341.html And please realise that 2.15 is the latest version of Xerte 2.x, Not 2.5. Regards, Tom Op 21-2-2011 9:39, Ritima Tripathi schreef: > Hello there, > I am trying to use *hot text *feature in the text box given in Xerte > 2.x. While using it for a particular text for eg *Router2 *it shows > following code. > _Router2_ > And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg *Router2* > clickable but it is not showing any response. > Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? > Please help me in this matter. > Thanks > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 09:08:16 2011 From: ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com (Ritima Tripathi) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:38:16 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: <4D6228FA.2000809@tor.nl> References: <4D6228FA.2000809@tor.nl> Message-ID: hii there............ i have tried this but it is not working. Please tell me the whole procedure to use Hot Text feature in any text. Do tell me what is the use of Hot Text in Xerte 2.15. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Please see this answer: > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2011-February/008341.html > > And please realise that 2.15 is the latest version of Xerte 2.x, Not 2.5. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 21-2-2011 9:39, Ritima Tripathi schreef: > > Hello there, > I am trying to use *hot text *feature in the text box given in Xerte 2.x. > While using it for a particular text for eg *Router2 *it shows following > code. > *Router2* > And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg *Router2*clickable but it is not showing any response. > Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? > > Please help me in this matter. > Thanks > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing listXerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- RITIMA TRIPATHI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Feb 21 09:20:23 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:20:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: References: <4D6228FA.2000809@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4D622E57.6070605@tor.nl> Can't help you there, I've never used it.... The use? As far as I understand it, it enables you to call a script icon through a text icon. Please look at the examples . (or wait for a more elaborate answer from someone who has used it). Tom Op 21-2-2011 10:08, Ritima Tripathi schreef: > hii there............ > i have tried this but it is not working. > Please tell me the whole procedure to use Hot Text feature in any text. > Do tell me what is the use of Hot Text in Xerte 2.15. > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Please see this answer: > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2011-February/008341.html > > And please realise that 2.15 is the latest version of Xerte 2.x, > Not 2.5. > > Regards, > > Tom > > Op 21-2-2011 9:39, Ritima Tripathi schreef: >> Hello there, >> I am trying to use *hot text *feature in the text box given in >> Xerte 2.x. While using it for a particular text for eg *Router2 >> *it shows following code. >> _Router2_ >> And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg >> *Router2* clickable but it is not showing any response. >> Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? >> Please help me in this matter. >> Thanks >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage >> your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. >> Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be >> monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications > with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > > > > > -- > RITIMA TRIPATHI > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 09:28:26 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:28:26 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46641D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Dunno. I've never been down this road. Instance780 is probably the graphic: can you set / do anything with it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 09:24:57 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:24:57 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466410@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You need to write the function to do whatever you want to happen when the text is clicked, in this case myFunction. Are you familiar with scripting? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ritima Tripathi Sent: 21 February 2011 08:39 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Query Regarding Hot Text Hello there, I am trying to use hot text feature in the text box given in Xerte 2.x. While using it for a particular text for eg Router2 it shows following code. Router2 And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg Router2 clickable but it is not showing any response. Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? Please help me in this matter. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 09:42:37 2011 From: ritima14.tripathi at gmail.com (Ritima Tripathi) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:12:37 +0530 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query Regarding Hot Text In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466410@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466410@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: *hi there......* *i want that when the text is clicked or mouse is over on it, to open a pop up where some text are written, and the pop up hides when the mouse is out. Do tell me the script. * On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > You need to write the function to do whatever you want to happen when the > text is clicked, in this case myFunction. Are you familiar with scripting? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ritima Tripathi > *Sent:* 21 February 2011 08:39 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Query Regarding Hot Text > > > > Hello there, > > I am trying to use *hot text *feature in the text box given in Xerte 2.x. > While using it for a particular text for eg *Router2 *it shows following > code. > > *Router2* > > And when i am previewing it simply makes that text for eg *Router2*clickable but it is not showing any response. > > Do we need to write any script to enable the Hot Text feature? > > > > Please help me in this matter. > > Thanks > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -- RITIMA TRIPATHI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 09:45:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:45:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adobe Flash CS4 professional question In-Reply-To: References: <4D612606.2090805@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466453@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Unsure what the problem is. We still use Flash 8 for AS2 stuff. Using FlashDevelop for more hardcore AS3.0 development, Xerte 3.0 for content development. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 20 February 2011 19:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adobe Flash CS4 professional question local security settings for flash on the PC? ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:32 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Adobe Flash CS4 professional question L.S., I use Adobe Flash CS4 to look at, and customize parts of Xerte. Specifically the XMLEngine. I have 2 PC's running Flash, one with 10.0 and one with 10.0.2 (don't know if that's the cause of the problem). But with the PC with 10.0.2. on it I can't work, edit the XMLEngine.fla, i.e. if I press F9 to open the actions code, I get a message in the status bar that Flash is 'Checking syntax...' and then nothing. Just the wait cursor. I have to kill flash to be able to anything else with it. Both PC's are running Windows 7 64 bit. Have you seen anything like that? Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 09:46:15 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:46:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466458@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> here is a bullet point It gets superceded by From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 10:02:37 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 12:14:25 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:14:25 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it?s running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn?t inspect it: unsure why ? might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconI don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 12:18:46 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 12:38:25 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:38:25 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id=?blah?? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent?s coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconYou can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it?s running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn?t inspect it: unsure why ? might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconI don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 13:08:21 2011 From: Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk (Harding, Julie) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:08:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <4D5E6360.80601@internode.on.net> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <4D5E6360.80601@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F3397627D@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Hi Peter Thanks for the reply. Regarding: We have converted to flv with format factory > use page wizards text flv > great result and resolution equal to orignal. Could you please expand on this as we couldn't see the wizard option and are unsure what sizes to use on the limited choices offered? Thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBD1C8.6683D010] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Snowball Sent: 18 February 2011 12:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page If its is any help we have used microsoft expression screen capture ( max 9 minutes in free version) to produce wmv with audio etc. its highly editable and a great advance on media encoder 9 which was also free (but no time limit). We have converted to flv with format factory > use page wizards text flv > great result and resolution equal to orignal. The trick with screen capture with small fonts etc for use in exerte seems to be to capture a portion of a screen equal to the size you will display in xerte as when you make the flv full size it still fits "inside" the xerte player. So you will loose resolution if you are capturing fine detail because it gets shrunk. It would be nice to have a native player at full screen with Xerte controls so you have the option make it fill the whole screen (like utube). Click to return to within xerte player. Peter Snowball Dept Of Economic Development Tasmania On 18/02/2011 10:39 PM, Harding, Julie wrote: This zipped up LO has the wmv in and not flv - is that what you need? Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBD1C8.6683D010] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 11:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then make the wmv file available to us? I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a screen segment. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 11:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or lack of!!) that appears on the IWB [cid:image002.png at 01CBD1C8.6683D010] The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles right now. Thank you Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBD1C8.6683D010] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 18 February 2011 10:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page Hi Julie Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in the flesh. I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie Sent: 18 February 2011 10:43 To: 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: [Xerte] flv files - media/video page Hello I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would be VERY grateful if someone could assist. We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the same video and changed the video size in various increments on the media/video page but to no avail. Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really simple now - wood for trees etc!! We have a whole college development day the week after next and really need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! Many thanks Julie ______________________________ Julie Harding Resource Based Learning Manager The Oldham College * 0161 785 4106 * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk * www.oldham.ac.uk * www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk [cid:image001.gif at 01CBD1C8.6683D010] ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ________________________________ This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 13:16:00 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 14:11:55 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:11:55 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconYou can debug(blah) when id=?blah?? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent?s coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconYou can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it?s running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn?t inspect it: unsure why ? might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconI don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 14:49:56 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:49:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You might need to wait till they load. This is in a button, so I can run it after the icons have loaded: it works: tt.txt.myIcon._x = 200; From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: textObj.rlo Type: application/octet-stream Size: 603 bytes Desc: textObj.rlo URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 14:53:27 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:53:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> debug(typeof(tt.txt.myIcon)); //movieclip so I reckon you can do what you wanted to do. I bet you were trying to get at them before they had loaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You might need to wait till they load. This is in a button, so I can run it after the icons have loaded: it works: tt.txt.myIcon._x = 200; From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 14:58:20 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:58:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yep, I'm setting up events on it now, no problem. It's a movieclip. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(typeof(tt.txt.myIcon)); //movieclip so I reckon you can do what you wanted to do. I bet you were trying to get at them before they had loaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You might need to wait till they load. This is in a button, so I can run it after the icons have loaded: it works: tt.txt.myIcon._x = 200; From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 15:06:14 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:06:14 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Cool, we can move the graphic around. That will be useful But since it isn't really considered part of the text stream, can't use it as a position token. Too bad. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:58:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Yep, I?m setting up events on it now, no problem. It?s a movieclip. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(typeof(tt.txt.myIcon)); //movieclip so I reckon you can do what you wanted to do. I bet you were trying to get at them before they had loaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You might need to wait till they load. This is in a button, so I can run it after the icons have loaded: it works: tt.txt.myIcon._x = 200; From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconDunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconYou can debug(blah) when id=?blah?? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent?s coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations...From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconYou can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it?s running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn?t inspect it: unsure why ? might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere?From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconI don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 15:21:37 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , , , ,,,,, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Back up a minute, what was the goal again: to position textEntries? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 15:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Cool, we can move the graphic around. That will be useful But since it isn't really considered part of the text stream, can't use it as a position token. Too bad. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:58:20 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Yep, I'm setting up events on it now, no problem. It's a movieclip. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(typeof(tt.txt.myIcon)); //movieclip so I reckon you can do what you wanted to do. I bet you were trying to get at them before they had loaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 21 February 2011 14:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You might need to wait till they load. This is in a button, so I can run it after the icons have loaded: it works: tt.txt.myIcon._x = 200; From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 14:12 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Darn. Thought we might have found a back door there. phhh... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Dunno then. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon debug(fed.txt.thing); _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.thing inspect(fed.txt.thing); //nothing debug(fed.txt.thing._x); 0 fed.txt.thing._x = 200; //nothing ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can debug(blah) when id="blah"? The graphic ought to be positioned in its parent's coordinate space, so text icon is at 100,100, graphic is at 20,20, global cords are 120,120. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon If I gave it an id, the id shows up on inspect. So that can be used. You repositioned it? I couldn't get that to happen. But the graphic doesn't seem to be related to the text anyway, so it's position will not reflect a position in the text stream, so no help on positioning a text input. There must be some way of putting a token or something in there to avoid all sorts of "GetTextExtent" gyrations... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon You can indeed address those graphics, but I have no idea how it figuring out the instance name. I ran it and got instance56, next run I get instance 70, so anticipating instance84 next, I successfully ran some code to re-position it. Those increments might not change in the browser, where the swf only runs once: it's running many times in preview, and some garbage collection might not be happening between runs. I also couldn't inspect it: unsure why - might have had its propsFlags set to hide stuff. Inspect is a function that takes an object, and I assume that whatever it is, it is an object... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 19 February 2011 23:54 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Where's it going? How's it handled? If I do an inspect of icon.txt, I get something I don't recognize from previously: instance780 : _level0.engine.IFC.PG_MC21.DIS_MC1.txt.instance780 That 780 increments up by 14 each time I run it, but even if I front run it: inspect(fed.txt.instance794); inspect(fed.txt.instance808); inspect(fed.txt.instance822); I get nothing. That graphic has to be loaded somewhere? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:42:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I don't think you can't address it. If you can, then good plan, I like the way you think... ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 21:05 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] img in text icon If I have this is in a text icon: here is a bullet point Where is that .png being loaded? Do I have access to it? Here's my thought. I have a series of random gapfills in sentences. I insert a dummy png the shape of the gapfill into the string as needed. Fill in the and call it Then use the position of those dummies to position my actual text inputs. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 15:43:17 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:43:17 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes, had originally hoped that with some leading text here is a bullet point that the img would be flowed into the text stream, so I could get the x,y of that bullet and use it to position the text entry mid-sentence. But now we know the image is completely divorced from the text, so knowing the image x,y doesn't help in positioning anything. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Back up a minute, what was the goal again: to position textEntries? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 15:51:40 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:51:40 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm trying to gin up a proto to handle gapfills. Each sentence may have ________ random gapfills of ______ length and _______. I had originally hoped that the embedded in the string would be positioned in the text flow, so I could trap it's x,y and determine where to place the text entries Each sentence may have random gapfills of length and . But since it turns out the embedded images are not tied to the text flow in any way (besides a common parent), it is not going to help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 15:46:52 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The breakApart() approach used in toolkits for laying out the gapFill exercise is probably the best thing I've got: see code in attached and example in Nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 15:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Yes, had originally hoped that with some leading text here is a bullet point that the img would be flowed into the text stream, so I could get the x,y of that bullet and use it to position the text entry mid-sentence. But now we know the image is completely divorced from the text, so knowing the image x,y doesn't help in positioning anything. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Back up a minute, what was the goal again: to position textEntries? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gapFill.rlm Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6769 bytes Desc: gapFill.rlm URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 15:58:45 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:58:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,,, ,,,,,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466727@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> breakApart() will make it easier to snap the text icon out to an array of movieclips, with one word in each one. If your end users aren't in control of the font size (and mostly, even if they are) it works OK. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 15:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon I'm trying to gin up a proto to handle gapfills. Each sentence may have ________ random gapfills of ______ length and _______. I had originally hoped that the embedded in the string would be positioned in the text flow, so I could trap it's x,y and determine where to place the text entries Each sentence may have random gapfills of length and . But since it turns out the embedded images are not tied to the text flow in any way (besides a common parent), it is not going to help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 21 16:27:44 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Julian. I'll see what I can do to adapt this. I need actual text inputs so the user types their own answer. The principle should be the same I hope. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon The breakApart() approach used in toolkits for laying out the gapFill exercise is probably the best thing I?ve got: see code in attached and example in Nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 15:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Yes, had originally hoped that with some leading text here is a bullet point that the img would be flowed into the text stream, so I could get the x,y of that bullet and use it to position the text entry mid-sentence. But now we know the image is completely divorced from the text, so knowing the image x,y doesn't help in positioning anything. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text iconBack up a minute, what was the goal again: to position textEntries? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 16:28:10 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:28:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466767@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, it handles it that way too. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 16:28 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Thanks Julian. I'll see what I can do to adapt this. I need actual text inputs so the user types their own answer. The principle should be the same I hope. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon The breakApart() approach used in toolkits for laying out the gapFill exercise is probably the best thing I've got: see code in attached and example in Nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 21 February 2011 15:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Yes, had originally hoped that with some leading text here is a bullet point that the img would be flowed into the text stream, so I could get the x,y of that bullet and use it to position the text entry mid-sentence. But now we know the image is completely divorced from the text, so knowing the image x,y doesn't help in positioning anything. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon Back up a minute, what was the goal again: to position textEntries? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 21 17:11:38 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:11:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AA20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64A72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64AA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <011001cbbd6d$f6a82250$e3f866f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64B5B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <014c01cbbd76$6987d010$3c977030$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64BB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD703A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AA20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have checked out (using tortoise svn) http://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ This has resulted in the first level of folders mdmswc xerte3 xerte3air Xerte3Editor xerte3sample xerte35 Maybe I am just not looking in the right place, but I cannot find the examples / caption folder that you mention above. Have I downloaded from the wrong location, and if so what location should I download from to obtain the closed caption example? Kind regards Johnathan On 31 January 2011 09:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > I uploaded a fresh build of Xerte 3.0 on Friday: it has the timed text > component in it. In Xerte 3.0 you can create your own icons by writing > classes. This is good example of one. Any class put in the org/xerte/ > folder is shown as an icon on the components menu: you can then set its > public properties using properties of the icon. This means it is really easy > to extend Xerte 3.0 to do specific things ? a bit of work remains to get the > public properties to show up on the icon?s properties after inserting, right > now, you need to know what they are. > > > > In the svn is also an example in the examples/captions folder showing this > in use. For fun I made a google translate icon, for translating between > languages, and used it with the timed text component to show the timed text > as subtitles in the usual way, but also to present a drop down list of > languages, and then show the translation of the subtitles into the chosen > language as the movie plays. > > > > It would be great to have developers contribute classes for the component > menu. I use FlashDevelop for writing the AS3.0. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 28 January 2011 21:06 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Is the Xerte 3.0 timed text caption component available for testing in > Xerte 3 yet? > > > > The following url > > > > > http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player/jw-player-for-flash-v5/22/making-video-accessible > > > > discusses closed captioning for the JWFLV player and it looks like this is > using timed text, so I am assuming the process I used to use for creating > closed captions for the JWFLV player should work with your timed text > component. There is a link from the above url to a location where you can > download a converter that will allow you to create your closed captions in > subtitle workshop and then export them as timed text files. > > > > If the timed text component is available for testing I don't mind testing > it for you. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 28 January 2011 12:41, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks. > > > > This is all for Xerte 3.0, so all that is possible. I?ve made a component > for Timed Text captions: I?m hoping other formats can be converted to timed > text somehow. > > > > J > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 27 January 2011 19:21 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > I don't know if any of the following will help. > > For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and > flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to > play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can > turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for > use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free. > > > > I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I > found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the > subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file > compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted > something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using > closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a > none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close > captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run > time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted > subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file > before converting to an flv. > > > > If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file > that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video > files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close > caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they > are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light > in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil) > > > > This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close > caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > No flv support? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:31 > > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Magpie? > http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:14 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > It?s not free and there?s no demo? Not an encouraging start? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:30 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate? > http://www.buraks.com/captionate/ > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support > multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert > between formats. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:54 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > I?ve used a free bit of software called ?Subtitle Workshop? to make a timed > caption file for youtube videos ( > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub > Viewer file). > > > > Let?s you output in a few different formats, although XML isn?t a default > option. Txt file might be an option? > > > > Adam > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:33 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Timed Text > > > > Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text > xml files? > > > > I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that > by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of > wonderful tools for producing timed text? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 56263 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 09:44:02 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:44:02 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64A72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64AA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <011001cbbd6d$f6a82250$e3f866f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64B5B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <014c01cbbd76$6987d010$3c977030$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64BB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD703A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AA20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586D1E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You should get \examples at the top level as well. I can't seem to check it out at all at the minute... but my source folder has all the little green lights on, including \examples From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 February 2011 17:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I have checked out (using tortoise svn) http://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ This has resulted in the first level of folders mdmswc xerte3 xerte3air Xerte3Editor xerte3sample xerte35 Maybe I am just not looking in the right place, but I cannot find the examples / caption folder that you mention above. Have I downloaded from the wrong location, and if so what location should I download from to obtain the closed caption example? Kind regards Johnathan On 31 January 2011 09:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: I uploaded a fresh build of Xerte 3.0 on Friday: it has the timed text component in it. In Xerte 3.0 you can create your own icons by writing classes. This is good example of one. Any class put in the org/xerte/ folder is shown as an icon on the components menu: you can then set its public properties using properties of the icon. This means it is really easy to extend Xerte 3.0 to do specific things - a bit of work remains to get the public properties to show up on the icon's properties after inserting, right now, you need to know what they are. In the svn is also an example in the examples/captions folder showing this in use. For fun I made a google translate icon, for translating between languages, and used it with the timed text component to show the timed text as subtitles in the usual way, but also to present a drop down list of languages, and then show the translation of the subtitles into the chosen language as the movie plays. It would be great to have developers contribute classes for the component menu. I use FlashDevelop for writing the AS3.0. [cid:image001.png at 01CBD275.09BE8AC0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 28 January 2011 21:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Is the Xerte 3.0 timed text caption component available for testing in Xerte 3 yet? The following url http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player/jw-player-for-flash-v5/22/making-video-accessible discusses closed captioning for the JWFLV player and it looks like this is using timed text, so I am assuming the process I used to use for creating closed captions for the JWFLV player should work with your timed text component. There is a link from the above url to a location where you can download a converter that will allow you to create your closed captions in subtitle workshop and then export them as timed text files. If the timed text component is available for testing I don't mind testing it for you. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 January 2011 12:41, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks. This is all for Xerte 3.0, so all that is possible. I've made a component for Timed Text captions: I'm hoping other formats can be converted to timed text somehow. J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 January 2011 19:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I don't know if any of the following will help. For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free. I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file before converting to an flv. If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil) This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: No flv support... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 26 January 2011 16:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Magpie? http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 16:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text It's not free and there's no demo? Not an encouraging start... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 26 January 2011 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate? http://www.buraks.com/captionate/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 15:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert between formats. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 26 January 2011 14:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I've used a free bit of software called "Subtitle Workshop" to make a timed caption file for youtube videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub Viewer file). Let's you output in a few different formats, although XML isn't a default option. Txt file might be an option? Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 14:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Timed Text Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text xml files? I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of wonderful tools for producing timed text... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 56263 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 10:34:04 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matthew Terentjev) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:34:04 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Text to Speech problem: VoiceObj is undefined Message-ID: <000301cbd27c$081199e0$1834cda0$@gmail.com> Dear all, I wasn't able to find this discussed, however I do apologise if I have missed it. I have my Learning object published online and using Internet Explorer I am trying to switch on Text to Speech option, however after allowing ActiveX content to run I receive a web page error: Message: 'VoiceObj' is undefined Line: 29 Char: 5 scormRLO.htm Is there something missing in my package file or text needs to have any particular function or script? If anyone had anything similar to that and knows how to make it work I will really appreciate. Thank you Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 22 11:14:21 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Text to Speech problem: VoiceObj is undefined In-Reply-To: <000301cbd27c$081199e0$1834cda0$@gmail.com> References: <000301cbd27c$081199e0$1834cda0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: VoiceObj is the result of the instantiation of the TTS object, so if the object is not created, VoiceObj is undefined. So either the SAPI (Speech API) components can't be found, or some security is not allowing them to run. Get in the IE settings and try checking this box: "Initialize and script ActiveX control not marked as safe." From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Text to Speech problem: VoiceObj is undefined Dear all, I wasn?t able to find this discussed, however I do apologise if I have missed it.I have my Learning object published online and using Internet Explorer I am trying to switch on Text to Speech option, however after allowing ActiveX content to run I receive a web page error: Message: 'VoiceObj' is undefinedLine: 29Char: 5scormRLO.htm Is there something missing in my package file or text needs to have any particular function or script? If anyone had anything similar to that and knows how to make it work I will really appreciate? Thank you Kindest RegardsMatt This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From southman at internode.on.net Tue Feb 22 11:38:23 2011 From: southman at internode.on.net (Peter Snowball) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:38:23 +1100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page In-Reply-To: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F3397627D@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976269@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976270@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F33976271@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> <4D5E6360.80601@internode.on.net> <218E3CA6E004BD4EBCB57B66D8899457038F3397627D@OC-MAILBOXCCR1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4D63A02F.4060804@internode.on.net> The tool kit text flv player has a "magnifying glass' like utube full screen that increases the size of the flv to the workspace less the overhead of top and bottom Xerte controls. If you capture the screen at a size that will fit into the available space ie less than "full screen" then convert in Format factory with the same size settings when you "magnify" you should expect to replicate the original screen capture with similar detail as below . toggle to "full screen" We use the page wizards in xerte 2.15 (not the tool kits) but I think the magnifying control is the same. In xerte 2.15 page wizards you can set the video size in script from the on movie load event. The only issue for us is controlling the size and position of the "magnified" video through script which we would like to do as we use a customised framework, but this should not be an issue with tools kits . Hope this helps Peter Snowball Dept Of Economic Development Tasmania On 22/02/2011 12:08 AM, Harding, Julie wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Thanks for the reply. Regarding: We have converted to flv with format > factory > use page wizards text flv > great result and resolution > equal to orignal.Could you please expand on this as we couldn't see > the wizard option and are unsure what sizes to use on the limited > choices offered? > > Thanks > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > : www.oldham.ac.uk > : www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Peter > Snowball > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 12:18 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > If its is any help we have used microsoft expression screen capture ( > max 9 minutes in free version) to produce wmv with audio etc. its > highly editable and a great advance on media encoder 9 which was also > free (but no time limit). > We have converted to flv with format factory > use page wizards text > flv > great result and resolution equal to orignal. > > The trick with screen capture with small fonts etc for use in exerte > seems to be to capture a portion of a screen equal to the size you > will display in xerte as when you make the flv full size it still fits > "inside" the xerte player. > So you will loose resolution if you are capturing fine detail because > it gets shrunk. > It would be nice to have a native player at full screen with Xerte > controls so you have the option make it fill the whole screen (like > utube). Click to return to within xerte player. > > > Peter Snowball > Dept Of Economic Development > Tasmania > > > On 18/02/2011 10:39 PM, Harding, Julie wrote: > > This zipped up LO has the wmv in and not flv -- is that what you need? > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > Description: cid:part1.05020502.02020707 at internode.on.net > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 11:16 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi Julie > > That makes it tricky to help. Could you record one of the smartboard > videos in exactly the same way (minus the sensitive content) and then > make the wmv file available to us? > > I suspect you'll need to pick an appropriate resolution for the job. > This is always tricky when making full-screen recordings which is why > I rarely do them anymore, instead using screenr.com to capture a > screen segment. > > Adam > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Harding, > Julie > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 11:10 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi > > I would do but due to the nature of the content unfortunately I can't. > The LO is for tutors marking online registers so has lots of learner > information on the screen. Here is a screenshot of the quality (or > lack of!!) that appears on the IWB > > Description: cid:part2.01090405.00080102 at internode.on.net > > The above example is typical of all the flv files throughout the LO > and demonstrates the exact distorted/blurred display so I hope this > helps? I can add a Captivate file OK but unfortunately the narration > tool is not working on the network so I am going round in circles > right now. > > Thank you > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > Description: cid:part1.05020502.02020707 at internode.on.net > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 10:55 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: flv files - media/video page > > Hi Julie > > Can you show us an example by sharing a learning object? It is > difficult to work out what the problem might be without seeing it in > the flesh. > > I'm not familiar with CuCusoft, but I use an excellent free piece of > software called "Format Factory" to convert videos between formats. > > Adam > > *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Harding, > Julie > *Sent:* 18 February 2011 10:43 > *To:* 'Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ' > *Subject:* [Xerte] flv files - media/video page > > Hello > > I have managed to learn (very quickly!!) how to use Xerte, (mainly > thanks to Rons videos) but I do have some questions on video and would > be VERY grateful if someone could assist. > > We use Smartboards to record application screen captures with > narration at the same time. These are .wmv files and then we have to > convert those through CuCusoft software to a flv format. When I add a > media/video page in my learning object it either takes over the screen > and gets in the way of navigation, or adding the default video size > window completely distorts it? I have tried various resolutions of the > same video and changed the video size in various increments on the > media/video page but to no avail. > > Sorry this is longwinded but I may just be missing something really > simple now -- wood for trees etc!! > > We have a whole college development day the week after next and really > need the videos to work and at least be legible on a smartboard. The > first screen is ok but as soon as there is mouse movement or narration > it's like it cannot refresh quick enough? Please help!! > > Many thanks > > Julie > > ______________________________ > > Julie Harding > Resource Based Learning Manager > *The Oldham College* > ( 0161 785 4106 > * Julie.Harding at oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldham.ac.uk > :www.oldhambusinesscentre.co.uk > Description: cid:part1.05020502.02020707 at internode.on.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web:www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web:www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark& St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail is only for the use of the addressee. It may > contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and > exempt from > disclosure. The content of this e-mail can in no way be taken to be > representative of the Oldham College Corporation. If you received this > communication in error, or if you have any comment or concern, please > contact postmaster at oldham.ac.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: moz-screenshot-7.png Type: image/png Size: 11686 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: moz-screenshot-8.png Type: image/png Size: 9875 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1905 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 29399 bytes Desc: not available URL: From admin at strivney.com Tue Feb 22 14:00:05 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:00:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Message-ID: Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 14:34:15 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:34:15 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it... Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Feb 22 16:27:32 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:27:32 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The torture never ends. Works perfect for single word gapfills. Of course the next one I run into is a phrase. (hand rubs forehead). From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon The breakApart() approach used in toolkits for laying out the gapFill exercise is probably the best thing I?ve got: see code in attached and example in Nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 16:36:38 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:36:38 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D042D.3070005@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEFD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE465F29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF01@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466478@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE46657E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4665E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666A8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE4666E1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE466711@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587093@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> C'mon, this is what makes it fun... Can you do something like use some tokens so you can treat your phrase as a word? The*quick*brown*fox And then re-mash it with spaces once you've calculated stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 22 February 2011 16:28 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon The torture never ends. Works perfect for single word gapfills. Of course the next one I run into is a phrase. (hand rubs forehead). ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: img in text icon The breakApart() approach used in toolkits for laying out the gapFill exercise is probably the best thing I've got: see code in attached and example in Nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 16:47:51 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:47:51 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64A72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64AA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <011001cbbd6d$f6a82250$e3f866f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64B5B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <014c01cbbd76$6987d010$3c977030$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64BB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD703A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AA20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5870AB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I've checked out https://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ [note https] I did get the examples folder. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 February 2011 17:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I have checked out (using tortoise svn) http://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ This has resulted in the first level of folders mdmswc xerte3 xerte3air Xerte3Editor xerte3sample xerte35 Maybe I am just not looking in the right place, but I cannot find the examples / caption folder that you mention above. Have I downloaded from the wrong location, and if so what location should I download from to obtain the closed caption example? Kind regards Johnathan On 31 January 2011 09:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: I uploaded a fresh build of Xerte 3.0 on Friday: it has the timed text component in it. In Xerte 3.0 you can create your own icons by writing classes. This is good example of one. Any class put in the org/xerte/ folder is shown as an icon on the components menu: you can then set its public properties using properties of the icon. This means it is really easy to extend Xerte 3.0 to do specific things - a bit of work remains to get the public properties to show up on the icon's properties after inserting, right now, you need to know what they are. In the svn is also an example in the examples/captions folder showing this in use. For fun I made a google translate icon, for translating between languages, and used it with the timed text component to show the timed text as subtitles in the usual way, but also to present a drop down list of languages, and then show the translation of the subtitles into the chosen language as the movie plays. It would be great to have developers contribute classes for the component menu. I use FlashDevelop for writing the AS3.0. [cid:image001.png at 01CBD2B0.2EFBEBD0] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 28 January 2011 21:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Is the Xerte 3.0 timed text caption component available for testing in Xerte 3 yet? The following url http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player/jw-player-for-flash-v5/22/making-video-accessible discusses closed captioning for the JWFLV player and it looks like this is using timed text, so I am assuming the process I used to use for creating closed captions for the JWFLV player should work with your timed text component. There is a link from the above url to a location where you can download a converter that will allow you to create your closed captions in subtitle workshop and then export them as timed text files. If the timed text component is available for testing I don't mind testing it for you. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 January 2011 12:41, Julian Tenney > wrote: Thanks. This is all for Xerte 3.0, so all that is possible. I've made a component for Timed Text captions: I'm hoping other formats can be converted to timed text somehow. J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 27 January 2011 19:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I don't know if any of the following will help. For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free. I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file before converting to an flv. If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil) This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: No flv support... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 26 January 2011 16:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Magpie? http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 16:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text It's not free and there's no demo? Not an encouraging start... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 26 January 2011 15:30 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate? http://www.buraks.com/captionate/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 15:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert between formats. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 26 January 2011 14:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text I've used a free bit of software called "Subtitle Workshop" to make a timed caption file for youtube videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub Viewer file). Let's you output in a few different formats, although XML isn't a default option. Txt file might be an option? Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 26 January 2011 14:33 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Timed Text Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text xml files? I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of wonderful tools for producing timed text... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 56263 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From admin at strivney.com Tue Feb 22 17:16:35 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:16:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue with Xerte Template Wizard Message-ID: Hi, Thank you. Happy to know narration issue can be fixed. Yes I can make first page title page but it's not ideal. Second issue fixed - it didn't like the frame it was in. Many thanks. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Feb 22 22:16:46 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:16:46 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> Hi Julian I've got a similar issue with narration on my compareAnswer page in that if it's the first page in an LO the narration doesn't show until going to the next page and then back again e.g the same as what happens with the title page. But I can't spot what makes these different to other page types. Is it because as text pages without images and image loaders that they are loading too fast and moving on before the narration player can load? What's the difference/fix? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 February 2011 14:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it. Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 10:22:10 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:22:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> No, it's not the page types that are the issue. It's the order events fire when the piece kicks up. Try the attached: tell me if it breaks anything else. The logic is like this: Piece loads, loads all the model xml and builds the xml fr the piece, the first page initialises. If there is narration on it, it fires the 'showAudio' event. After the piece has initialised, rootIcon broadcasts 'onInit', which is used to handle some other stuff. Because onInit fires after showAudio, it erases the narration as they share an interaction. If you set erase to false, the narration doesn't hide when turning pages (which is handled by the interaction icon responding to an 'onClosePage' event from rootIcon: the erase setting kills the narration response). So I've moved onInit to it's own interaction icon in the entry frame. As it only fires once, and does some one time stuff it shouldn't have any impact elsewhere... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 February 2011 22:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hi Julian I've got a similar issue with narration on my compareAnswer page in that if it's the first page in an LO the narration doesn't show until going to the next page and then back again e.g the same as what happens with the title page. But I can't spot what makes these different to other page types. Is it because as text pages without images and image loaders that they are loading too fast and moving on before the narration player can load? What's the difference/fix? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 February 2011 14:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it... Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: template.rlt Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5809 bytes Desc: template.rlt URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 23 10:55:47 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:55:47 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005c01cbd348$3c44d0c0$b4ce7240$@co.uk> Ok cheers will have a look at this later and get back to you but may not be until late afternoon. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard No, it's not the page types that are the issue. It's the order events fire when the piece kicks up. Try the attached: tell me if it breaks anything else. The logic is like this: Piece loads, loads all the model xml and builds the xml fr the piece, the first page initialises. If there is narration on it, it fires the 'showAudio' event. After the piece has initialised, rootIcon broadcasts 'onInit', which is used to handle some other stuff. Because onInit fires after showAudio, it erases the narration as they share an interaction. If you set erase to false, the narration doesn't hide when turning pages (which is handled by the interaction icon responding to an 'onClosePage' event from rootIcon: the erase setting kills the narration response). So I've moved onInit to it's own interaction icon in the entry frame. As it only fires once, and does some one time stuff it shouldn't have any impact elsewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 February 2011 22:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hi Julian I've got a similar issue with narration on my compareAnswer page in that if it's the first page in an LO the narration doesn't show until going to the next page and then back again e.g the same as what happens with the title page. But I can't spot what makes these different to other page types. Is it because as text pages without images and image loaders that they are loading too fast and moving on before the narration player can load? What's the difference/fix? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 February 2011 14:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it. Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 23 11:50:27 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:50:27 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5870AB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64A72@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64AA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <011001cbbd6d$f6a82250$e3f866f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64B5B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <014c01cbbd76$6987d010$3c977030$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCA64BB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CCAD703A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CDD2AA20@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5870AB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for your help once again. Once I used https, rather than http, the examples folder put in an appearance :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 22 February 2011 16:47, Julian Tenney wrote: > I?ve checked out https://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ > > > > [note https] > > > > I did get the examples folder. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 February 2011 17:12 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > I have checked out (using tortoise svn) > http://xerte3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ > > > > This has resulted in the first level of folders > > > > mdmswc > > xerte3 > > xerte3air > > Xerte3Editor > > xerte3sample > > xerte35 > > > > Maybe I am just not looking in the right place, but I cannot find the > examples / caption folder that you mention above. > > > > Have I downloaded from the wrong location, and if so what location should I > download from to obtain the closed caption example? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 31 January 2011 09:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I uploaded a fresh build of Xerte 3.0 on Friday: it has the timed text > component in it. In Xerte 3.0 you can create your own icons by writing > classes. This is good example of one. Any class put in the org/xerte/ > folder is shown as an icon on the components menu: you can then set its > public properties using properties of the icon. This means it is really easy > to extend Xerte 3.0 to do specific things ? a bit of work remains to get the > public properties to show up on the icon?s properties after inserting, right > now, you need to know what they are. > > > > In the svn is also an example in the examples/captions folder showing this > in use. For fun I made a google translate icon, for translating between > languages, and used it with the timed text component to show the timed text > as subtitles in the usual way, but also to present a drop down list of > languages, and then show the translation of the subtitles into the chosen > language as the movie plays. > > > > It would be great to have developers contribute classes for the component > menu. I use FlashDevelop for writing the AS3.0. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 28 January 2011 21:06 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Is the Xerte 3.0 timed text caption component available for testing in > Xerte 3 yet? > > > > The following url > > > > > http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player/jw-player-for-flash-v5/22/making-video-accessible > > > > discusses closed captioning for the JWFLV player and it looks like this is > using timed text, so I am assuming the process I used to use for creating > closed captions for the JWFLV player should work with your timed text > component. There is a link from the above url to a location where you can > download a converter that will allow you to create your closed captions in > subtitle workshop and then export them as timed text files. > > > > If the timed text component is available for testing I don't mind testing > it for you. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 28 January 2011 12:41, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Thanks. > > > > This is all for Xerte 3.0, so all that is possible. I?ve made a component > for Timed Text captions: I?m hoping other formats can be converted to timed > text somehow. > > > > J > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 27 January 2011 19:21 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > I don't know if any of the following will help. > > For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and > flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to > play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can > turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for > use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free. > > > > I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I > found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the > subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file > compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted > something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using > closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a > none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close > captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run > time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted > subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file > before converting to an flv. > > > > If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file > that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video > files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close > caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they > are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light > in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil) > > > > This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close > caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-) > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > No flv support? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:31 > > > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Magpie? > http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 16:14 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > It?s not free and there?s no demo? Not an encouraging start? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:30 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate? > http://www.buraks.com/captionate/ > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 15:02 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support > multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert > between formats. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:54 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Timed Text > > > > I?ve used a free bit of software called ?Subtitle Workshop? to make a timed > caption file for youtube videos ( > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub > Viewer file). > > > > Let?s you output in a few different formats, although XML isn?t a default > option. Txt file might be an option? > > > > Adam > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney > *Sent:* 26 January 2011 14:33 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Timed Text > > > > Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text > xml files? > > > > I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that > by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of > wonderful tools for producing timed text? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 56263 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 23 14:04:35 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:04:35 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 Page Wizards - Raptivity Message-ID: Since the last update to the Page Wizards it seems that two new page types have become available in Xerte - Model Answer and Raptivity. I am now looking to update the Page Wizards to provide wizards for these two new page types. Can anyone help me out by posting to this list a simple example of a Raptivity file as I don't have access to an installation of Raptivity and have never used the software. This will enable me to test the new Raptivity wizard prior to release. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 14:44:06 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:44:06 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 Page Wizards - Raptivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874BB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I did it for someone out in the world somewhere: I don't have one From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 23 February 2011 14:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 Page Wizards - Raptivity Since the last update to the Page Wizards it seems that two new page types have become available in Xerte - Model Answer and Raptivity. I am now looking to update the Page Wizards to provide wizards for these two new page types. Can anyone help me out by posting to this list a simple example of a Raptivity file as I don't have access to an installation of Raptivity and have never used the software. This will enable me to test the new Raptivity wizard prior to release. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 23 14:54:26 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:54:26 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004d01cbd369$934a2d90$b9de88b0$@co.uk> Thanks Julian this seems to fix the issue e.g. both my compare answer and the title page now show the narration even if those page types are the first page. I haven't found anything this breaks although obviously haven't tested every conceivable combination etc. I take it you'll make this part of the download at some point. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard No, it's not the page types that are the issue. It's the order events fire when the piece kicks up. Try the attached: tell me if it breaks anything else. The logic is like this: Piece loads, loads all the model xml and builds the xml fr the piece, the first page initialises. If there is narration on it, it fires the 'showAudio' event. After the piece has initialised, rootIcon broadcasts 'onInit', which is used to handle some other stuff. Because onInit fires after showAudio, it erases the narration as they share an interaction. If you set erase to false, the narration doesn't hide when turning pages (which is handled by the interaction icon responding to an 'onClosePage' event from rootIcon: the erase setting kills the narration response). So I've moved onInit to it's own interaction icon in the entry frame. As it only fires once, and does some one time stuff it shouldn't have any impact elsewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 February 2011 22:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hi Julian I've got a similar issue with narration on my compareAnswer page in that if it's the first page in an LO the narration doesn't show until going to the next page and then back again e.g the same as what happens with the title page. But I can't spot what makes these different to other page types. Is it because as text pages without images and image loaders that they are loading too fast and moving on before the narration player can load? What's the difference/fix? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 February 2011 14:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it. Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 14:55:59 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:55:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard In-Reply-To: <004d01cbd369$934a2d90$b9de88b0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE586FA9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00a201cbd2de$3401d8a0$9c0589e0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58726B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004d01cbd369$934a2d90$b9de88b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874D5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, we need to update the download soon, and make sure it gets tested out there on a few different systems. It would be good to bring all the various changes together, and get things as close as we can to our own version of things. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 14:54 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Thanks Julian this seems to fix the issue e.g. both my compare answer and the title page now show the narration even if those page types are the first page. I haven't found anything this breaks although obviously haven't tested every conceivable combination etc. I take it you'll make this part of the download at some point. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard No, it's not the page types that are the issue. It's the order events fire when the piece kicks up. Try the attached: tell me if it breaks anything else. The logic is like this: Piece loads, loads all the model xml and builds the xml fr the piece, the first page initialises. If there is narration on it, it fires the 'showAudio' event. After the piece has initialised, rootIcon broadcasts 'onInit', which is used to handle some other stuff. Because onInit fires after showAudio, it erases the narration as they share an interaction. If you set erase to false, the narration doesn't hide when turning pages (which is handled by the interaction icon responding to an 'onClosePage' event from rootIcon: the erase setting kills the narration response). So I've moved onInit to it's own interaction icon in the entry frame. As it only fires once, and does some one time stuff it shouldn't have any impact elsewhere... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 22 February 2011 22:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hi Julian I've got a similar issue with narration on my compareAnswer page in that if it's the first page in an LO the narration doesn't show until going to the next page and then back again e.g the same as what happens with the title page. But I can't spot what makes these different to other page types. Is it because as text pages without images and image loaders that they are loading too fast and moving on before the narration player can load? What's the difference/fix? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 22 February 2011 14:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Issues with Xerte Template Wizard I can fix the narration thing, but for now, make the first page the second: add a tile page before it... Is the second issue a mime types thing? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 22 February 2011 14:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Issues with Xerte Template Wizard Hello, I am using the Xerte Template Wizard and I am not a coder. Is there a different list I should be posting on? In case I am in the right place, I have two issues with my first Xerte exercise: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2038 1. There is narration on the first page but it doesn't show up when the exercise loads. If you flick to the second page and then back again the narration plays. 2. The exercise fails to load in Internet Explorer (tried on several versions) but behaves fine in Firefox and Google Chrome. With many thanks in advance. Deborah Delin This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Wed Feb 23 15:15:39 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:15:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Message-ID: Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 15:16:39 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:16:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Feb 23 22:24:21 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:24:21 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 09:40:45 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:40:45 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5876E6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'm going to wind it back then. Had a quick look and can't see what's going on. If you get any further with it, let me know. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 09:43:21 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:43:21 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5876F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hang on. Are you sure this was as a result of what we did to the narration? The full screen thing appears to have broken on the old file as well - can you confirm that please? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 09:55:47 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:55:47 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Alright, try this. I know I had tried to fix this at some point in the past, and not managed it, which is why I was asking for you guys to test it. This is the version with the perpetual setting, and the two interactions to handle events. I cannot see why it wouldn't work, my tests show it works, just unsure whether there are any banana skins in there, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: template.rlt Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5642 bytes Desc: template.rlt URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:14:29 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:14:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 10:15:46 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:15:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58775A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Does it work standalone when you run the htm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:14:29 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:14:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410B@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 10:18:41 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:18:41 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410B@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410B@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Feb 24 10:21:17 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:21:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <4D66311D.6090006@tor.nl> Is Moodle running on a Windows server IIS server? Did you add the required mime types? Op 24-2-2011 11:14, Nigel Irwin schreef: > Hi > Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched > archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have > exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm > activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with > interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? > > *Regards, Nigel Irwin* > *IT Training and Support Co-ordinator* > > Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South > Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR > > Website:__ > Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 > Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 > If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address > is:_nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk_ > > Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, > West Sussex RH16 4LR > Registered in England No. 3421136 > > *_IMPORTANT NOTICE_* > > *Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but > please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be > liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on.* > > *If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, > telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate > communications with you.* > > *The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is > addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised.* > > > *If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you > should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or > any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is > expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our > clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement > with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any > doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you > are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 > 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to > administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk .* > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:22:41 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:22:41 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58775A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410C@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> I Get the following messages appear if I run the ScormRLO.htm Unable to find API adapter Unable to locate LMS's API Implementation. LMS Initialize was not successful I am able to run the LO as normal after that. The LO will run ok if I link from moodle to the appropriate URL, but will need to be able to track scores at some point. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle Does it work standalone when you run the htm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:24:31 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:24:31 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <4D66311D.6090006@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410D@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> No Moodle is running on a Windows server but under Apache. XOT also integrated with Moodle and everything else runs fine, just the SCORM package. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 24 February 2011 10:21 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle Is Moodle running on a Windows server IIS server? Did you add the required mime types? Op 24-2-2011 11:14, Nigel Irwin schreef: Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 10:26:24 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:26:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410C@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410A@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58775A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410C@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: Brain is now recalling have you set a default window size on the first page of the LO? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:23 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle I Get the following messages appear if I run the ScormRLO.htm Unable to find API adapter Unable to locate LMS's API Implementation. LMS Initialize was not successful I am able to run the LO as normal after that. The LO will run ok if I link from moodle to the appropriate URL, but will need to be able to track scores at some point. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:16 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle Does it work standalone when you run the htm? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 10:27:49 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:27:49 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410B@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587782@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:44:29 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:44:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587782@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410B@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587782@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk> It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 24 10:51:03 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:51:03 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> Yes as I said it seems like changing the Narration handler to perpetual and keeping the separate innit interaction as it was in the version you sent to the list was working fine and allowing the default display mode to work. My comment/question about not sure if this causes any other problems was just a bit of caution. I've been testing this with an LO that I'm using at an event tomorrow and did spot an odd intermittent bug with that and the theme changing but that may be due to other code I have in the .rlt so I'll do some further testing and report back later. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 09:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Alright, try this. I know I had tried to fix this at some point in the past, and not managed it, which is why I was asking for you guys to test it. This is the version with the perpetual setting, and the two interactions to handle events. I cannot see why it wouldn't work, my tests show it works, just unsure whether there are any banana skins in there, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmannion63 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 24 11:00:55 2011 From: jmannion63 at yahoo.com (JOHN MANNION) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 03:00:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. ? I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT ? Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can?t remember the solution: it?s down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT ? Memory reminds me it?s something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT ? Hi ? Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? ? ? ? ? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures.? We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy.? If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk . ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.???Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 11:09:42 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:09:42 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk> <479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We don?t have moodle here to test, but obviously we?d like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I?m guessing you used the most up to date zip ? so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we?ve not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can?t remember the solution: it?s down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it?s something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 11:46:55 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:46:55 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587856@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It beats me why making the final interaction perpetual makes any difference to leaving it non-perpetual... Let's see what happens, I might add a comment, because it's the sort of thing I might 'tidy up' later... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 24 February 2011 10:51 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Yes as I said it seems like changing the Narration handler to perpetual and keeping the separate innit interaction as it was in the version you sent to the list was working fine and allowing the default display mode to work. My comment/question about not sure if this causes any other problems was just a bit of caution. I've been testing this with an LO that I'm using at an event tomorrow and did spot an odd intermittent bug with that and the theme changing but that may be due to other code I have in the .rlt so I'll do some further testing and report back later. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 09:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Alright, try this. I know I had tried to fix this at some point in the past, and not managed it, which is why I was asking for you guys to test it. This is the version with the perpetual setting, and the two interactions to handle events. I cannot see why it wouldn't work, my tests show it works, just unsure whether there are any banana skins in there, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 12:14:10 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:14:10 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don't have moodle here to test, but obviously we'd like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I'm guessing you used the most up to date zip - so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we've not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 12:49:10 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:49:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5878F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> What's the doctype at the top of both htm files? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don't have moodle here to test, but obviously we'd like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I'm guessing you used the most up to date zip - so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we've not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Thu Feb 24 13:31:48 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:31:48 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5878F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4110@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Looking in both ScormRLO.HTM I cannot see any doctype mentioned Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 12:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT What's the doctype at the top of both htm files? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don't have moodle here to test, but obviously we'd like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I'm guessing you used the most up to date zip - so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we've not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 13:33:56 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:33:56 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4110@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5878F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4110@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587959@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hmm. You need one of the moodlers to help: we haven't got it here, so I can't really test anything, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 13:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Looking in both ScormRLO.HTM I cannot see any doctype mentioned Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 12:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT What's the doctype at the top of both htm files? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don't have moodle here to test, but obviously we'd like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I'm guessing you used the most up to date zip - so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we've not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can't remember the solution: it's down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it's something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 24 14:42:49 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:42:49 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587959@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5878F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4110@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587959@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004501cbd431$1dedf090$59c9d1b0$@co.uk> Ok this might help but is going to make this a long message! I've stripped out Adam's sig's to make it slightly shorter. This is an old sent item I have in my Outlook from when we discussed all this before. I'm sure it can be found in the archives too but don't have time. It's obviously the top message that's most relevant but the thread gives the background. HTH Ron BTW not sure if the .js attachement ever got through because my sent item says it was blocked. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From: RonM [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 04 March 2010 23:07 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works in Moodle too! Also fixes the example shared by Adam earlier! Also fixes LO?s I?d tested in Moodle previously just by replacing the flash.js file! So to summarise: Problem only happened with LO?s set to full screen or fill window exported as scorm and imported into Moodle. Which is what made it seem so intermittent. None of the changes today to scormRLO.htm fixed this without causing the firefox problem. Checking flash.js and replacing the following: document.writeln('
    '); document.writeln('
    '); with the following document.writeln('
    '); fixed it offline and in Moodle. .js file attached for anyone with the disappearing problem to try. I think we got there! Cheers ? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 22:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Good. Now it's Moodle's problem... and the question will be 'what happens in the ADL test suite' if anything's wrong ;-) apiwrapper.js is pretty much the ADL supplied wrapper, so there oughtn't to be issues there. flash.js is my own flash embedding code - Pat found a problem in there earlier fixed it. I'll update all the downloads tomorrow so at least we have a good step forward. I know it works in WebCT, so I'd say there's a good chance it will work in another LMS... ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 22:41 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing. So then copied scormRLO.htm to my XOT test file - same old disappearing problem. So out of curiosity copied apiwrapper.js and flash.js from your LO to mine: Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing! So then copied the .js files one by one to another copy of my LO. apiwrapper.js no difference. flash.js fixes problem. So then compared differences between the two .js files Mine had: document.writeln('
    '); document.writeln('
    '); as lines 1 and 2 Yours has: document.writeln('
    '); as line 1 replacing 1 replacing line 1 and 2 in mine with 1 from yours seems to fix the problem Off to test in Moodle! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Confirm for me what happens when you take the zip fie at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip Unzip those files into a folder... run the .htm. It works? Or not? Don't mix any of these files with any of your own. We need to get to a place where we have one set of working files - I was thinking maybe you are taking just the .htm and dropping it into your own project - I need to know these files work or not as they work for me at work, and they work for me at home. I could see your flash.js was different to mine, so lets take it a step at a time, J ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 17:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle No idea! I downloaded your zip, extracted it and tried it ? vanishes locally woks fine in FF. Add the doc type woks fine in IE but squishes in FF. Not going anywhere near moodle with it yet. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 17:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Something is different between your files and mine. What is it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:45 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle It aint the cache and btw the link in your message containing: ?Let?s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files.? To quote ?That example doesn?t have the doctype at the top of the file.?! ;-) So I added the doc type and it fixes the disappearing problem in IE but creates the squishing problem in Firefox. Adding the docype to your example does the same thing. Please try the attached not another non XOT LO. So just to make it 100% clear. The disappearing problem only happens in IE with LO?s set to full screen or fill window. Using the new scormRLO.htm file with doctype added fixes that problem but introduces a problem of squishing vertically in Firefox. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That ought to work then ? clear your cache? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:57 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That does work in both browsers but... 1. Something must have changed because your previous version wasn?t displaying full screen. 2. It would help if we were all using an XOT created LO rather than a local file because... 3. Given that this one worked I copied scormRLO.htm pasted in the folder of the test LO I sent to the list and changed the line pointing to test.rlo to point to learingobject.rlo result ? back to the same problem ? flashes and disappears! Doesn?t work = flashes and disappears! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I think we all have. Let?s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files. Delete all the clutter from todays messing. Download this: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip Run it locally in any browser ? it should work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:20 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I?ve lost track of this a bit! The scorm example that Julian linked us up with works in both IE and FF but doesn?t fill the screen. ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: 04 March 2010 15:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That?s because I created that particular example before you sent that revision. However I?m sure I?ve tried that with the same result. If you add the doctype does it work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That example doesn?t have the doctype at the top of the file. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Well it doesn?t display full screen or filling the window for me. Try the attached ? just view in IE locally. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 14:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle It is ? code in the page calls rootIcon.setDisplayMode, just the way it is in toolkits. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle As far as I can see that isn?t set to full screen or fill window so yes it works. This issue seems to happen in IE 7 or 8 when exported as scrorm and set to anything but default size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle See attached ? works fine locally in IE8 and Firefox and Opera. Does this not work locally for anyone? Works in WebCT as a SCORM module in IE8, FireFox and Opera. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I dunno. I have a piece working fine locally in both IE and firefox. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:33 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Same here IE fine Firefox squished vertically! ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 13:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works fine in IE now, Error! Filename not specified. however it?s broken in Firefox! Seems to load really small: Error! Filename not specified. ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 13:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Right, got it now: - Add the doctype; - Close the head tag (oops) - Add the style info to the html tag as well SCO Example
    From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:58 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Ah, I have it now, in IE. Firefox is OK, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:55 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle But actually it disappears when viewing locally too. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: 04 March 2010 12:45 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Sorry been dealing with other things but just tested and NO ? your LO does the same as before ? flashes and then disappears. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Sorry modded scorm zip here: http://ls.net.marjon.ac.uk/bbcswebdav/xid-309080_1 Adam ___________________________________ Adam Read From: Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Definitely doesn?t fix my problem. Deleted everything from Moodle, re-downloaded the scorm RLO, unzipped, edited scormRLO.htm with the two new body/div tags, saved, re-zipped, added to moodle using scorm activity or IMS ? still briefly appears then breaks. Here?s my modded scorm package ? does this work on your Moodle? ? ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 11:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle modules/xerte/scorm It will of course make it?s way into the zip file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:22 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Just finished testing and Yes it does seem to fix it for me! However I made the change locally and then re-imported so as you say there may be some caching going on in Adam?s case. This is great Julian (and Adam) thanks! ? it?s cropped up many times but I?ve never seen the error Adam reported so never associated it with the default screen size. A lot of people will be very happy! ;-) Presumably you will add this to the downloads at some point? Also I can find it but to save a few minutes where does the scormRLO.htm sit in the XOT directory or is it created dynamically? Would be good to be able to replace a file so that it?s fixed on existing installations. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 11:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Hmm. Well it did break in webct before and it doesn?t now, so I don?t have anything more to go at? Might just check with an entirely new object so there?s no caching to the old file (clutching at straws a bit I know) Does it fix it for you Ron? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:05 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Still breaks in Moodle for me after making those changes to scormRLO.htm ? ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 10:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Got it: It was the styles thing: make these changes to the html: specifically body and div tags:
    J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:40 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I posted about this issue previously (see subject: scorm object white screen) but hadn?t discovered that it was the default size option that was causing the problem. Thanks Adam! At least knowing that?s the conflict provides a short term solution e.g. set size to default. This has actually cropped up many times but has seemed intermittent ? it now seems clear that the difference is the default size setting. I?ve just tested the same LO I was using previously to test the problem and as soon as that?s set to default rather than full screen or full window the LO works when imported as a scorm. However as Adam says when imported as a normal zip the fill window works too. It seems likely that there?s some incompatibility between the Moodle scorm code and the full screen fill window code. You?re right Julian ? given that the only interaction tracked at the moment is the Quiz page type there?s few advantages and many disadvantage exporting and importing as scorm. I usually recommend that people either link to and use the moodle quiz for quizzes or separate LO?s so that only LO?s using the quiz page are exported and imported and the others are just linked or embedded. It would be good to identify where the code conflict lies and fix it at some point because dynamic sizing is definitely desirable but I simply don?t have time to explore that at the moment. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle The dark grey box is just the background: don?t worry about that. So it works locally. It doesn?t work in Moodle. So what does Moodle do to it to break it? Any other moodlers got any insight? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:48 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I actually didn?t think of just linking to it in XOT. Of course then we can?t use any grading stuff which scorm allows. >> Does it fail even when the package is just run locally, and you?ve clicked through the API errors to run the piece? The scorm package loads locally but has some weird size: big grey box underneath the RLO and weird behaviour on changing size? Error! Filename not specified. Cheers Adam ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle The problem needs looking into. I think it is something to do with the styles in the html. Compare the code in scormRLO.htm to the code in a normal index.htm ?that might help track it down. But why export it anyway? Why not just link to the resource from moodle? That way you can easily edit and update the resource from toolkits, copy it, give it, duplicate it and adapt it - and all that good stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:38 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Hi all Been experimenting with Moodle using some Xerte RLOs and uncovered a problem. Exporting a XOT RLO as scorm and importing into Moodle using the ?add an IMS package? works fine and runs as should. However, setting the ?default size? in XOT for the RLO to either Full Screen or Fill Screen breaks the RLO in Moodle ? it completely disappears and leaves the following error : Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; chromeframe; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MJStf; InfoPath.2; MJStf) Timestamp: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:28:37 UTC Message: Object expected Line: 82 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/file.php/13/moddata/resource/52/scormRLO.htm If I export the RLO as a zip package and then link to the index.htm page it displays fine from Moodle with the screen default size set. Any ideas why this might be? I?d prefer it if we could use the full screen option so that the RLO resizes to match the users browser window ? and still import as scorm (most our students will use laptops which chop off the bottom of the default sized RLO) Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hmm. You need one of the moodlers to help: we haven?t got it here, so I can?t really test anything, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 13:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Looking in both ScormRLO.HTM I cannot see any doctype mentioned Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 12:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT What?s the doctype at the top of both htm files? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don?t have moodle here to test, but obviously we?d like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I?m guessing you used the most up to date zip ? so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we?ve not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can?t remember the solution: it?s down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it?s something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Feb 24 14:47:29 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:47:29 -0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! In-Reply-To: <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <004a01cbd431$c702b300$55081900$@co.uk> Ok have thoroughly tested now (famous last words!) and can't find any problems caused by this version. So making the narration handler interaction perpetual and separating the innit interaction seems to have done the trick. The intermittent bug I mentioned wasn't related (at least I don't think so) and only applied to my bleeding image page anyway and I've fixed that now too. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 24 February 2011 10:51 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Yes as I said it seems like changing the Narration handler to perpetual and keeping the separate innit interaction as it was in the version you sent to the list was working fine and allowing the default display mode to work. My comment/question about not sure if this causes any other problems was just a bit of caution. I've been testing this with an LO that I'm using at an event tomorrow and did spot an odd intermittent bug with that and the theme changing but that may be due to other code I have in the .rlt so I'll do some further testing and report back later. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 09:56 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Alright, try this. I know I had tried to fix this at some point in the past, and not managed it, which is why I was asking for you guys to test it. This is the version with the perpetual setting, and the two interactions to handle events. I cannot see why it wouldn't work, my tests show it works, just unsure whether there are any banana skins in there, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 23 February 2011 22:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Looks like we spoke slightly too soon! :-( Just noticed that although the narration problem is fixed moving the innit appears to have resulted in a different problem... Now if an LO's default display mode is set to full screen or fill window it doesn't take effect. Changing by the user still works but not onload. I had a look and it seems changing the narration handlers interaction to perpetual fixes this but I'm not sure if that introduces any other problems? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 23 February 2011 15:17 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration Issue - fix works! Good. I expect that if a piece with a few pages continues to function as usual, then the changes don't have any ill effects, thanks, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 23 February 2011 15:16 To: Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Hi Julian, The new template works great! Narration shows up on first page when exercise loads and nothing else seems to be broken. Thank you so much. Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 15:05:39 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:05:39 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT In-Reply-To: <004501cbd431$1dedf090$59c9d1b0$@co.uk> References: <007801cbd40f$d2a68f00$77f3ad00$@co.uk><479171.48388.qm@web114719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A410E@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5878F7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A4110@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587959@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <004501cbd431$1dedf090$59c9d1b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587BCC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The fix suggested below is in my current set of files, so the current zip ought to be OK? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 24 February 2011 14:43 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Ok this might help but is going to make this a long message! I've stripped out Adam's sig's to make it slightly shorter. This is an old sent item I have in my Outlook from when we discussed all this before. I'm sure it can be found in the archives too but don't have time. It's obviously the top message that's most relevant but the thread gives the background. HTH Ron BTW not sure if the .js attachement ever got through because my sent item says it was blocked. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From: RonM [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: 04 March 2010 23:07 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works in Moodle too! Also fixes the example shared by Adam earlier! Also fixes LO?s I?d tested in Moodle previously just by replacing the flash.js file! So to summarise: Problem only happened with LO?s set to full screen or fill window exported as scorm and imported into Moodle. Which is what made it seem so intermittent. None of the changes today to scormRLO.htm fixed this without causing the firefox problem. Checking flash.js and replacing the following: document.writeln('
    '); document.writeln('
    '); with the following document.writeln('
    '); fixed it offline and in Moodle. .js file attached for anyone with the disappearing problem to try. I think we got there! Cheers ? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 22:44 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Good. Now it's Moodle's problem... and the question will be 'what happens in the ADL test suite' if anything's wrong ;-) apiwrapper.js is pretty much the ADL supplied wrapper, so there oughtn't to be issues there. flash.js is my own flash embedding code - Pat found a problem in there earlier fixed it. I'll update all the downloads tomorrow so at least we have a good step forward. I know it works in WebCT, so I'd say there's a good chance it will work in another LMS... ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 22:41 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing. So then copied scormRLO.htm to my XOT test file - same old disappearing problem. So out of curiosity copied apiwrapper.js and flash.js from your LO to mine: Works in IE no disappearing and no FF squishing! So then copied the .js files one by one to another copy of my LO. apiwrapper.js no difference. flash.js fixes problem. So then compared differences between the two .js files Mine had: document.writeln('
    '); document.writeln('
    '); as lines 1 and 2 Yours has: document.writeln('
    '); as line 1 replacing 1 replacing line 1 and 2 in mine with 1 from yours seems to fix the problem Off to test in Moodle! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 22:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Confirm for me what happens when you take the zip fie at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip Unzip those files into a folder... run the .htm. It works? Or not? Don't mix any of these files with any of your own. We need to get to a place where we have one set of working files - I was thinking maybe you are taking just the .htm and dropping it into your own project - I need to know these files work or not as they work for me at work, and they work for me at home. I could see your flash.js was different to mine, so lets take it a step at a time, J ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 17:36 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle No idea! I downloaded your zip, extracted it and tried it ? vanishes locally woks fine in FF. Add the doc type woks fine in IE but squishes in FF. Not going anywhere near moodle with it yet. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 17:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Something is different between your files and mine. What is it? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:45 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle It aint the cache and btw the link in your message containing: ?Let?s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files.? To quote ?That example doesn?t have the doctype at the top of the file.?! ;-) So I added the doc type and it fixes the disappearing problem in IE but creates the squishing problem in Firefox. Adding the docype to your example does the same thing. Please try the attached not another non XOT LO. So just to make it 100% clear. The disappearing problem only happens in IE with LO?s set to full screen or fill window. Using the new scormRLO.htm file with doctype added fixes that problem but introduces a problem of squishing vertically in Firefox. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That ought to work then ? clear your cache? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:57 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That does work in both browsers but... 1. Something must have changed because your previous version wasn?t displaying full screen. 2. It would help if we were all using an XOT created LO rather than a local file because... 3. Given that this one worked I copied scormRLO.htm pasted in the folder of the test LO I sent to the list and changed the line pointing to test.rlo to point to learingobject.rlo result ? back to the same problem ? flashes and disappears! Doesn?t work = flashes and disappears! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:21 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I think we all have. Let?s wipe our minds and get on a common set of files. Delete all the clutter from todays messing. Download this: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/scormTest.zip Run it locally in any browser ? it should work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:20 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I?ve lost track of this a bit! The scorm example that Julian linked us up with works in both IE and FF but doesn?t fill the screen. ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: 04 March 2010 15:15 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That?s because I created that particular example before you sent that revision. However I?m sure I?ve tried that with the same result. If you add the doctype does it work? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 15:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle That example doesn?t have the doctype at the top of the file. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Well it doesn?t display full screen or filling the window for me. Try the attached ? just view in IE locally. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 14:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle It is ? code in the page calls rootIcon.setDisplayMode, just the way it is in toolkits. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle As far as I can see that isn?t set to full screen or fill window so yes it works. This issue seems to happen in IE 7 or 8 when exported as scrorm and set to anything but default size. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 13:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle See attached ? works fine locally in IE8 and Firefox and Opera. Does this not work locally for anyone? Works in WebCT as a SCORM module in IE8, FireFox and Opera. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I dunno. I have a piece working fine locally in both IE and firefox. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:33 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Same here IE fine Firefox squished vertically! ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 13:22 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Works fine in IE now, Error! Filename not specified. however it?s broken in Firefox! Seems to load really small: Error! Filename not specified. ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 13:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Right, got it now: - Add the doctype; - Close the head tag (oops) - Add the style info to the html tag as well SCO Example
    From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:58 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Ah, I have it now, in IE. Firefox is OK, right? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:55 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle But actually it disappears when viewing locally too. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: 04 March 2010 12:45 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Sorry been dealing with other things but just tested and NO ? your LO does the same as before ? flashes and then disappears. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Sorry modded scorm zip here: http://ls.net.marjon.ac.uk/bbcswebdav/xid-309080_1 Adam ___________________________________ Adam Read From: Adam Read Sent: 04 March 2010 11:39 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Definitely doesn?t fix my problem. Deleted everything from Moodle, re-downloaded the scorm RLO, unzipped, edited scormRLO.htm with the two new body/div tags, saved, re-zipped, added to moodle using scorm activity or IMS ? still briefly appears then breaks. Here?s my modded scorm package ? does this work on your Moodle? ? ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 11:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle modules/xerte/scorm It will of course make it?s way into the zip file? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:22 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Just finished testing and Yes it does seem to fix it for me! However I made the change locally and then re-imported so as you say there may be some caching going on in Adam?s case. This is great Julian (and Adam) thanks! ? it?s cropped up many times but I?ve never seen the error Adam reported so never associated it with the default screen size. A lot of people will be very happy! ;-) Presumably you will add this to the downloads at some point? Also I can find it but to save a few minutes where does the scormRLO.htm sit in the XOT directory or is it created dynamically? Would be good to be able to replace a file so that it?s fixed on existing installations. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 11:08 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Hmm. Well it did break in webct before and it doesn?t now, so I don?t have anything more to go at? Might just check with an entirely new object so there?s no caching to the old file (clutching at straws a bit I know) Does it fix it for you Ron? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:05 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Still breaks in Moodle for me after making those changes to scormRLO.htm ? ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 10:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Got it: It was the styles thing: make these changes to the html: specifically body and div tags:
    J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:40 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I posted about this issue previously (see subject: scorm object white screen) but hadn?t discovered that it was the default size option that was causing the problem. Thanks Adam! At least knowing that?s the conflict provides a short term solution e.g. set size to default. This has actually cropped up many times but has seemed intermittent ? it now seems clear that the difference is the default size setting. I?ve just tested the same LO I was using previously to test the problem and as soon as that?s set to default rather than full screen or full window the LO works when imported as a scorm. However as Adam says when imported as a normal zip the fill window works too. It seems likely that there?s some incompatibility between the Moodle scorm code and the full screen fill window code. You?re right Julian ? given that the only interaction tracked at the moment is the Quiz page type there?s few advantages and many disadvantage exporting and importing as scorm. I usually recommend that people either link to and use the moodle quiz for quizzes or separate LO?s so that only LO?s using the quiz page are exported and imported and the others are just linked or embedded. It would be good to identify where the code conflict lies and fix it at some point because dynamic sizing is definitely desirable but I simply don?t have time to explore that at the moment. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 10:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle The dark grey box is just the background: don?t worry about that. So it works locally. It doesn?t work in Moodle. So what does Moodle do to it to break it? Any other moodlers got any insight? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:48 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle I actually didn?t think of just linking to it in XOT. Of course then we can?t use any grading stuff which scorm allows. >> Does it fail even when the package is just run locally, and you?ve clicked through the API errors to run the piece? The scorm package loads locally but has some weird size: big grey box underneath the RLO and weird behaviour on changing size? Error! Filename not specified. Cheers Adam ___________________________________ Adam Read From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 March 2010 09:41 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle The problem needs looking into. I think it is something to do with the styles in the html. Compare the code in scormRLO.htm to the code in a normal index.htm ?that might help track it down. But why export it anyway? Why not just link to the resource from moodle? That way you can easily edit and update the resource from toolkits, copy it, give it, duplicate it and adapt it - and all that good stuff? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:38 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle Hi all Been experimenting with Moodle using some Xerte RLOs and uncovered a problem. Exporting a XOT RLO as scorm and importing into Moodle using the ?add an IMS package? works fine and runs as should. However, setting the ?default size? in XOT for the RLO to either Full Screen or Fill Screen breaks the RLO in Moodle ? it completely disappears and leaves the following error : Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; chromeframe; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MJStf; InfoPath.2; MJStf) Timestamp: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:28:37 UTC Message: Object expected Line: 82 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/file.php/13/moddata/resource/52/scormRLO.htm If I export the RLO as a zip package and then link to the index.htm page it displays fine from Moodle with the screen default size set. Any ideas why this might be? I?d prefer it if we could use the full screen option so that the RLO resizes to match the users browser window ? and still import as scorm (most our students will use laptops which chop off the bottom of the default sized RLO) Adam From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 13:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hmm. You need one of the moodlers to help: we haven?t got it here, so I can?t really test anything, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 13:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Looking in both ScormRLO.HTM I cannot see any doctype mentioned Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 12:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT What?s the doctype at the top of both htm files? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 12:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Sorry folks, was caught up with other technical issues. Patrick, this is the latest download from the website, interestingly, when I export an LO from original install of XOT and export that as Scorm and play within moodle no problem. So maybe something missing from the zip file on site? Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 11:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT We don?t have moodle here to test, but obviously we?d like to make it work (for everyone, first time). Nigel I?m guessing you used the most up to date zip ? so wondering if we have some JS somewhere we?ve not added in. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of JOHN MANNION Sent: 24 February 2011 11:01 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT I had a similar issue with a scorm package in moodle and it was resolved by setting the Theme Selector in Moodle to the 'standard' theme. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Ron Mitchell wrote: From: Ron Mitchell Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT To: "'Xerte discussion list'" Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 10:44 It should all be documented in the archives and yes the simple solution is to set the default display mode to default rather than full screen or fill window and then play with the moodle frame settings so that it fits nicely in the SCORM window. I can't recall either if we fixed this with newer html/js but I think we did. Too busy with something else right now to track back or check. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Yeah, this has echoes in the further reaches of my mind, but I can?t remember the solution: it?s down to the div getting resized to 0,0 if I recall correctly? Try the other screen settings? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 24 February 2011 10:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm and Moodle - XOT Memory reminds me it?s something to do with a bug in either moodle or one of the toolkit window size options not playing nicely with moodle? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 24 February 2011 10:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Scorm and Moodle - XOT Hi Not sure if this has been covered before or not, have searched archives but was unable to find anything. I have an LO and have exported it as a scorm package. I imported into Moodle as a Scorm activity, when I run it the Title Page briefly appears along with interface then all I get is a blank page. Any ideas? Regards, Nigel Irwin IT Training and Support Co-ordinator Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy, Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Website: Voice: +44 (0) 1444 884906 Fax: +44 (0) 845 638 4916 If you would like to contact me personally by email, my address is: nigel.irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Registered Office: Victoria Gate, 119-127 South Road, Haywards Heath, West Sussex RH16 4LR Registered in England No. 3421136 IMPORTANT NOTICE Any attachment(s) to this message has been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus checker and procedures. We will not be liable for the consequences of any virus that is passed on. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name, address, telephone/fax numbers and e-mail address in our database to facilitate communications with you. The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. Access by anyone else to this e-mail is unauthorised. If you are not the person to whom this e-mail is addressed, you should be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution of it or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is expressly prohibited and may be unlawful. In e-mails addressed to our clients, any information given is subject to the terms of engagement with Rewards Training Recruitment Consultancy. If you are in any doubt about the relevance thereto, you should contact the person you are most accustomed to dealing with at Rewards TRC on +44(0) 1444 413745 or by fax to +44(0) 1444 440113 or e-mail to administrator at rewards-trc.co.uk >. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 15:16:59 2011 From: P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk (Catherall, Paul) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:16:59 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Quizes - restarting In-Reply-To: <004a01cbd431$c702b300$55081900$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> <004a01cbd431$c702b300$55081900$@co.uk> Message-ID: <053CA92A2147D84AB7B468455E05FF433E8661C627@STAFFMBX2.livad.liv.ac.uk> Hi We?ve found that if a Quiz is restarted we get a blank screen/ odd behaviour, just wondering if anyone knows a work around or thinks we might have a configuration problem somewhere? I?ve shown an example of what I mean below and at http://xerte.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=164 Rgds Paul This is how a quiz displays when visiting the side for the 1st time (i.e. normally) and sequentially (so we progressed from slide 5 to 6 where the quiz resides): [cid:image002.png at 01CBD435.E1AFEF70]] But if we go forward a slide (to 7) then back again the quiz is shown as taken: [cid:image004.png at 01CBD435.E1AFEF70] If we try to re-take the quiz (restart) we get this kind of effect ? I had to click restart a few times to get to this screen. I found I could however restart the quiz by refreshing the browser. [cid:image007.png at 01CBD435.E1AFEF70] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 11951 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image004.png Type: image/png Size: 18746 bytes Desc: image004.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image007.png Type: image/png Size: 14046 bytes Desc: image007.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 15:22:09 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:22:09 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Quizes - restarting In-Reply-To: <053CA92A2147D84AB7B468455E05FF433E8661C627@STAFFMBX2.livad.liv.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> <004a01cbd431$c702b300$55081900$@co.uk> <053CA92A2147D84AB7B468455E05FF433E8661C627@STAFFMBX2.livad.liv.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Restarting the quiz just resets the page: by navigating to itself, essentially 'go to the current page'. It's not a config thing. Are these files the files on your system? Back up your existing files before switching them over, you need to be able to go back if this messes anything else up, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 24 February 2011 15:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Cc: Rhodes, Carole Subject: [Xerte] Quizes - restarting Hi We've found that if a Quiz is restarted we get a blank screen/ odd behaviour, just wondering if anyone knows a work around or thinks we might have a configuration problem somewhere? I've shown an example of what I mean below and at http://xerte.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=164 Rgds Paul This is how a quiz displays when visiting the side for the 1st time (i.e. normally) and sequentially (so we progressed from slide 5 to 6 where the quiz resides): [cid:image001.png at 01CBD436.9A4E8230]] But if we go forward a slide (to 7) then back again the quiz is shown as taken: [cid:image002.png at 01CBD436.9A4E8230] If we try to re-take the quiz (restart) we get this kind of effect - I had to click restart a few times to get to this screen. I found I could however restart the quiz by refreshing the browser. [cid:image003.png at 01CBD436.9A4E8230] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 11951 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 18746 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 14046 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: quiz.rlm Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9210 bytes Desc: quiz.rlm URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Nottingham.rlt Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5642 bytes Desc: Nottingham.rlt URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XMLEngine.swf Type: application/x-shockwave-flash Size: 144847 bytes Desc: XMLEngine.swf URL: From P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 15:52:08 2011 From: P.Catherall at liverpool.ac.uk (Catherall, Paul) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:52:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Quizes - restarting In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5874F8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00bb01cbd3a8$725fab70$571f0250$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE58771E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <008301cbd410$bd750840$385f18c0$@co.uk> <004a01cbd431$c702b300$55081900$@co.uk> <053CA92A2147D84AB7B468455E05FF433E8661C627@STAFFMBX2.livad.liv.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE587BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <053CA92A2147D84AB7B468455E05FF433E8661C62E@STAFFMBX2.livad.liv.ac.uk> Many thanks Seems to have fixed it as far as I can see, just testing wil let you know how it goes... Paul From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 24 February 2011 15:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Quizes - restarting Restarting the quiz just resets the page: by navigating to itself, essentially ?go to the current page?. It?s not a config thing. Are these files the files on your system? Back up your existing files before switching them over, you need to be able to go back if this messes anything else up, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Catherall, Paul Sent: 24 February 2011 15:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Cc: Rhodes, Carole Subject: [Xerte] Quizes - restarting Hi We?ve found that if a Quiz is restarted we get a blank screen/ odd behaviour, just wondering if anyone knows a work around or thinks we might have a configuration problem somewhere? I?ve shown an example of what I mean below and at http://xerte.liv.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=164 Rgds Paul This is how a quiz displays when visiting the side for the 1st time (i.e. normally) and sequentially (so we progressed from slide 5 to 6 where the quiz resides): [cid:image001.png at 01CBD43A.CA7D1DA0]] But if we go forward a slide (to 7) then back again the quiz is shown as taken: [cid:image002.png at 01CBD43A.CA7D1DA0] If we try to re-take the quiz (restart) we get this kind of effect ? I had to click restart a few times to get to this screen. I found I could however restart the quiz by refreshing the browser. [cid:image003.png at 01CBD43A.CA7D1DA0] This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 11951 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 18746 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 14046 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 24 23:05:46 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:05:46 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] drawing stuff conundrum Message-ID: //onPress erase0 exit 0 //{icon.parentNode.index()} User clicks on an object, the event is triggered and the text icon is displayed. The scr draws a line on the text object the first time it is clicked. icon.previousSibling.clip().lineTo(end_x, end_y); The second time it is clicked, the text persists but the drawn line disappears. ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Fri Feb 25 05:52:40 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:52:40 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Narration Issue - fix works! Message-ID: Sorry for tardy reply. I did not observe the problems that Ron described with the first template Julian sent; I was able to control the size of the windows via the template. The second template works slightly differently for me in terms of the narration: First template: Narration plays when LO loads Second template: Narration is visible but plays only when play is selected. Actually it is very useful to have both options :-) Thank you. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk Fri Feb 25 08:43:10 2011 From: EPPSA at bridgwater.ac.uk (Andy Epps) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:43:10 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Useful site for XERTE examples? Message-ID: Hi All Pretty simple one this for most of you I?m sure. I am running a Xerte session with some staff today and I would like to show them some good examples. Do any of you know a website or a source of Xerte LO?s that I can show them? Thanks Andy ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/images/logo.jpg] Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk [http://www.bridgwater.ac.uk/sites/images/enviroment.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 25 08:54:04 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (RonM) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:54:04 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Useful site for XERTE examples? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Search delicious.com for tag xerteexamples Sent from my iPhone On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:43, Andy Epps wrote: > Hi All > > > > Pretty simple one this for most of you I?m sure. I am running a Xerte session with some staff today and I would like to show them some good examples. Do any of you know a website or a source of Xerte LO?s that I can show them? > > > > Thanks > > Andy > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. > > Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Feb 25 09:17:02 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:17:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Useful site for XERTE examples? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D67738E.1040000@tor.nl> And also look at page 24 of one of Ron's presentations ;-) http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_5384 Op 25-2-2011 9:43, Andy Epps schreef: > > Hi All > > Pretty simple one this for most of you I?m sure. I am running a Xerte > session with some staff today and I would like to show them some good > examples. Do any of you know a website or a source of Xerte LO?s that > I can show them? > > Thanks > > Andy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are > addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and > do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are > not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please delete it together > with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has > been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that > Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and > outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of > illegal or serious misuse of facilities. > > Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 > 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Feb 25 17:28:36 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:28:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Useful site for XERTE examples? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> This is a link to an LO I used at a NIACE event today and contains links to lots of other LO's too. Be interested in what you think particularly about the accessibility benefits? Cheers Ron Sent from my iPad On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:54, RonM wrote: > Search delicious.com for tag xerteexamples > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:43, Andy Epps wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> >> >> Pretty simple one this for most of you I?m sure. I am running a Xerte session with some staff today and I would like to show them some good examples. Do any of you know a website or a source of Xerte LO?s that I can show them? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Bridgwater College. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it together with any attachment and contact the sender. This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please note that Bridgwater College reserves the right to monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications, especially if there is some evidence of illegal or serious misuse of facilities. >> >> Bridgwater College, Bath Road, Bridgwater, Somerset, TA6 4PZ | 01278 455464 | enquiries at bridgwater.ac.uk >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Feb 25 17:42:47 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:42:47 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] accented characters In-Reply-To: <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: I'm pulling in text via an xml file Some of the characters (they are within CDATA tags) have accents, ie the a in vis-a-vis has grav. I've tried vis-à-vis and vis-U+00E0-vis, but get the literals showing up in the text icon. What's the trick? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Feb 25 18:06:37 2011 From: Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk (Fred Riley) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:06:37 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: accented characters In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <8AA7B8784A0F1F47BF149647419A54EB3D3C08CFB2@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I'm pulling in text via an xml file > Some of the characters (they are within CDATA tags) have accents, ie > the a in vis-a-vis has grav. > I've tried vis-à-vis and vis-U+00E0-vis, but get the literals > showing up in the text icon. > > What's the trick? Numeric entities? I'm just guessing here, but perhaps à might work (good HTML character ref at http://www.alanwood.net/demos/ent4_frame.html). A search for "xml diacritics" might find you something useful - the top hit is a Stack Overflow page (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1485955/a-in-xml-file-is-valid-or-not). Cheers Fred ---- This email represents my own personal views and is not at all reflective of policy or opinions at my institution. So there. ---- From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Fri Feb 25 19:54:23 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:54:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Bugs in the flash video (flv) page of the PageTemplates project wide template Message-ID: There are a couple of bugs in the page that displays flv files (textVideo.rlm. 1. the movie does not resize and position itself correctly. When you click the zoom button the movie expands to fill the display space whilst remaining in proportion. But when you click the zoom button again to shrink the movie to its original size the movie covers the right border as it is not set to the correct width. This fault is caused by an error in the script that is hanging off the button icon that initiates the zoom. Line 81 of file textVideo.rlm reads movie.setSize(initWidth, initH); this should be movie.setSize(initW, initH); 2. If you add a transcript the page does not display the transcript. I have played around a bit trying to get this working. If you move the transcript interaction before the untitled interaction that implements the zoom feature, and change the transcript interaction to perpetual = 1 then the transcript will display and expand and close, but I have hit problems positioning the transcript button and also dealing with ghost displays of scroll bars. I want to fix these bugs in the Page Wizard but I want to avoid the code and structure of the Page Wizard becoming significantly different to the PageTemplates version of the page. So rather than continuing to solve the display problems can I refer it back to the Xerte team to fix? Then I can base the new version of the Page Wizard on the fix that you implement. If this is acceptable then perhaps you could attach a fixed version of the .rlm file that will be included in future downloads of Xerte that I can then use to build my new wizard. I would like to include this fix in the next update of the page wizards if possible. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Fri Feb 25 20:03:39 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:03:39 -0800 Subject: [Xerte] Re: accented characters References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: Try \u00E0 ______________________________ Paul Swanson Instructional Designer Harland Financial Solutions 800.274.7280 Ext. 2462 Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com ______________________________ ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett Sent: Fri 2/25/2011 9:42 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] accented characters I'm pulling in text via an xml file Some of the characters (they are within CDATA tags) have accents, ie the a in vis-a-vis has grav. I've tried vis-à-vis and vis-U+00E0-vis, but get the literals showing up in the text icon. What's the trick? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 4372 bytes Desc: not available URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 26 00:26:52 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: accented characters In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , Message-ID: Thanks Paul. Had tried that. I was making a tyro mistake. My version of UltraEdit was so old if I opened a utf-8 it saved out as ASCII. Duh. Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:03:39 -0800 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: accented characters Try \u00E0 ______________________________ Paul Swanson Instructional Designer Harland Financial Solutions 800.274.7280 Ext. 2462 Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com ______________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett Sent: Fri 2/25/2011 9:42 AM To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] accented characters I'm pulling in text via an xml file Some of the characters (they are within CDATA tags) have accents, ie the a in vis-a-vis has grav. I've tried vis-à-vis and vis-U+00E0-vis, but get the literals showing up in the text icon. What's the trick? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Sat Feb 26 10:32:52 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:32:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: accented characters In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EF07@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From southman at internode.on.net Sat Feb 26 11:08:48 2011 From: southman at internode.on.net (Peter Snowball) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:08:48 +1100 Subject: [Xerte] Print2flash - go to fist page after opening Message-ID: <4D68DF40.9030704@internode.on.net> We use Print2Falsh(pro) extensively with great success. However when it loads a multi page document it always seems to finish on the last page. I cant see on the P2Flash interface where to set it to open on the first page. In the P2Flash Action script 2 API it suggest you can use the setCurrentPage(page) method to force the opening on a particular page. Has any one done this and any clues as to how we would go about this in Xerte script. eg movie icon id = fp fp.setCurrentPage(1); http://print2flash.com/help/DocumentAPIFunctions.php -- Peter Snowball Dept Of Economic Development Tasmania -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 26 12:16:01 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:16:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 - Raptivity.rlm file name property Message-ID: Just to make you aware that this is currently set to "Captivate" in the .rlm file. Probably doesn't matter though as I think the Name property will only be visible to a user in the Page Wizard version of the file (in which I have updated the name). Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 27 15:58:45 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] hotspots In-Reply-To: <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 27 17:38:08 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, Message-ID: hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Sun Feb 27 18:19:55 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:19:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Adding Audio and Graphics to Interactive Elements Message-ID: Hi, I create interactive exercises for language teaching. I have just discovered Xerte and am so impressed but find I am limited by not being able to add audio and graphics to the interactive elements such as the categories, timeline/matching pairs, dialogue, gapfill and audio to the quiz options. I am using the Template Wizard. My coding skills are limited. Would it be the template.xml and rloObject.js files I would have to modify? Are there any tutorials for modifying the files in this way or is there anyone who has done this type of thing who would be kind enough to send me some examples? Many thanks in advance. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 27 18:48:54 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:48:54 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , Message-ID: Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 11:40:36 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn't. Don't know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 11:50:07 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:50:07 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn?t. Don?t know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback).The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 12:09:17 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn't. Don't know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 12:15:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:15:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots In-Reply-To: References: , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF00@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You will hit the same problem. The answer is to get a generic mouse down to tell you where the mouse is, and then run over an array of objects and call hitTest() on each one, passing hitTest() the mouse coords, rather than another object. You might need to mess with globalToLocal / localToGlobal so the mouse cords are in the same space as the object's coords., From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 15:59 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hotspots Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 12:31:48 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:31:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: drawing stuff conundrum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF35@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Call clear() first. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 24 February 2011 23:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] drawing stuff conundrum //onPress erase0 exit 0 //{icon.parentNode.index()} User clicks on an object, the event is triggered and the text icon is displayed. The scr draws a line on the text object the first time it is clicked. icon.previousSibling.clip().lineTo(end_x, end_y); The second time it is clicked, the text persists but the drawn line disappears. ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 12:34:51 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:34:51 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF00@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF00@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The transparent button thing seems to be working pretty well. I leave the first frame empty and have the transparent core with the edgework in the second frame. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:15:24 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots You will hit the same problem. The answer is to get a generic mouse down to tell you where the mouse is, and then run over an array of objects and call hitTest() on each one, passing hitTest() the mouse coords, rather than another object. You might need to mess with globalToLocal / localToGlobal so the mouse cords are in the same space as the object?s coords., From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 15:59 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] hotspots Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 12:36:59 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: drawing stuff conundrum In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF35@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDF35@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I was being an idiot. I added a wait and the text is indeed cleared as well. I moved the target draw object to a persistent position and that did it. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:31:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: drawing stuff conundrum Call clear() first. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 24 February 2011 23:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] drawing stuff conundrum //onPress erase0 exit 0 //{icon.parentNode.index()} User clicks on an object, the event is triggered and the text icon is displayed. The scr draws a line on the text object the first time it is clicked. icon.previousSibling.clip().lineTo(end_x, end_y); The second time it is clicked, the text persists but the drawn line disappears. ?? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 28 12:40:12 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:40:12 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adding Audio and Graphics to Interactive Elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When you say you are using the Template Wizard are you referring to having created a Xerte Project by selecting the "Page Templates" project wide template from the Xerte Templates menu? If you are using the standalone version of Xerte (i.e. you are not using Xerte Online Toolkits) then you may find the Page Wizards give you easier access to the structure of the pages, if you want to add your own features, modify how a page functions, or even create your own bespoke pages. Page Wizards are defined in a file with a .xcp extension. They are a zipped archive that contains a common folder and three files. The common folder contains any flash objects that are shared across several page wizards e.g. buttons, panels. The three files are as follows. The .rlm file defines the icon structure of the page. The .xwd file defines the wizard form that the end user completes to populate the page with data e.g. text and data files (graphics, sound, videos) The .xml file contains the data entered in the wizard form. You can learn all about the Page Wizards in the Xerte Wiki which is accessible from the Community Page of the Xerte web site. Their main advantage is that they give you full access to the Xerte icon based development environment whilst also enabling you to take advantage of the large number of pre-built Xerte pages that are available in the "Page Templates" project wide template. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 February 2011 18:19, Deborah Delin wrote: > Hi, > > I create interactive exercises for language teaching. I have just > discovered Xerte and am so impressed but find I am limited by not being able > to add audio and graphics to the interactive elements such as the > categories, timeline/matching pairs, dialogue, gapfill and audio to the quiz > options. > > I am using the Template Wizard. My coding skills are limited. Would it be > the template.xml and rloObject.js files I would have to modify? Are there > any tutorials for modifying the files in this way or is there anyone who has > done this type of thing who would be kind enough to send me some examples? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Deborah > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 12:54:32 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:54:32 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , ,,<7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Have your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn?t. Don?t know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback).The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 13:43:46 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , , , ,,<7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, ,,, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I'd draw the button with code. Never used that 9 scale slicing: not sure you can define it with code in AS2.0 - maybe in AS3.0 you can, unsure. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 12:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Have your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn't. Don't know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 13:53:24 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:53:24 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Isn't that what simple.fla is using? import flash.geom.Rectangle; function setSize(w,h){ this.button.scale9Grid = new Rectangle(10,10,90,10); //x,y,w,h of sclable region - other regions don't scale this.button._width = w; this.button._height = h; } From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks I?d draw the button with code. Never used that 9 scale slicing: not sure you can define it with code in AS2.0 ? maybe in AS3.0 you can, unsure. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 12:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folksHave your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn?t. Don?t know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually.From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback).The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 13:54:08 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:54:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , <7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , , , , ,,, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFDF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Ah. Yes, forgotten about that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 13:53 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Isn't that what simple.fla is using? import flash.geom.Rectangle; function setSize(w,h){ this.button.scale9Grid = new Rectangle(10,10,90,10); //x,y,w,h of sclable region - other regions don't scale this.button._width = w; this.button._height = h; } ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks I'd draw the button with code. Never used that 9 scale slicing: not sure you can define it with code in AS2.0 - maybe in AS3.0 you can, unsure. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 12:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Have your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn't. Don't know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 13:58:27 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFDF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , ,,, , , ,,<7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , ,,, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFDF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: So I just need the scalable area set to alpha=0 That's what I don't know how to do. When it comes to graphic stuff, I have trouble drawing stick men. :-) My car goes real fast, but has been painted with a roller... From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:54:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ah. Yes, forgotten about that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 13:53 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Isn't that what simple.fla is using? import flash.geom.Rectangle; function setSize(w,h){ this.button.scale9Grid = new Rectangle(10,10,90,10); //x,y,w,h of sclable region - other regions don't scale this.button._width = w; this.button._height = h; } From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folksI?d draw the button with code. Never used that 9 scale slicing: not sure you can define it with code in AS2.0 ? maybe in AS3.0 you can, unsure. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 12:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folksHave your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself.From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn?t. Don?t know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually.From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots.The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback).The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 14:00:14 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:00:14 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks In-Reply-To: References: , , , , ,,, , , ,,<7ACC70DC-EEE1-4215-8C89-2C188BFF80C2@mitchellmedia.co.uk>, , , ,,, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDE9B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDEEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFBD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFDF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE5FDFF5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you set the line to 2 pixels wide, fill to alpha = 0, then drawRect 90,0,w,h), and then define the9slice rect as 1,1,width-2,height-2 you get there? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 13:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks So I just need the scalable area set to alpha=0 That's what I don't know how to do. When it comes to graphic stuff, I have trouble drawing stick men. :-) My car goes real fast, but has been painted with a roller... ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:54:08 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ah. Yes, forgotten about that. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 13:53 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Isn't that what simple.fla is using? import flash.geom.Rectangle; function setSize(w,h){ this.button.scale9Grid = new Rectangle(10,10,90,10); //x,y,w,h of sclable region - other regions don't scale this.button._width = w; this.button._height = h; } ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks I'd draw the button with code. Never used that 9 scale slicing: not sure you can define it with code in AS2.0 - maybe in AS3.0 you can, unsure. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 12:55 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks OK, I see what you mean with simple.fla. I'm just not familiar enough with library symbols etc to figure out how to core out the scalable area and set it's alpha to 0 Like I don't seem to have a select rectangle tool. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Have your code reach up to the xml for params, and then draw the button to suit, the button template should point the way? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 28 February 2011 11:50 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks If it could be self-contained within the button, that would be handy. I'm not very good with Flash itself. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks 9 slice scaling allows you define a movie clip with a central area that scales normally, and a border, that doesn't. Don't know how / if you can do it in code. I would have the button draw itself at the size required. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 27 February 2011 18:49 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: hotspots - Flash folks Ok, if I fill the button with anything and set that alpha to 0, it acts just like a button. (If I left the center unfilled, only the outer pixel frame was active) So the real kicker is this: The outer frame resizes (of course) when I change the button w,h in Xerte. e.g. the frame that was 1 pixel thick is now 3 pixels or whatever thick. Is there any trickery that will vector the button while leaving that outer frame the same thickness? Dave From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:38:08 -0500 hey, a preliminary test indicates the transparent button thing might work. Any of you Flash graphic wizzes out there that can whip up a transparent button with some sort of shadow around the outer pixels that won't blow up when resized? Even a pixel or 2 black on bottom/right, white on top/left. Just needs over and down states (and they can be identical actually. ________________________________ From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: hotspots Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:58:45 -0500 Is there any sort of precedence I can set up that will allow overlapped HS to both function? Or do I need another architecture? Issue: I have a graphic with multiple hotspots. The hs areas need to both react when they are rolled over, (draw a shadow effect to indicate user over hs) and when they are clicked (show feedback). The feedback also needs to erase on rollout. (This is a proto, so I can't use a button, unless it's transparent. Hmm there's a thought). If over a spot I lay 2 hotspots (1 click=0, another click=1) then no matter how I order them in the flow, the hs higher in the tree blocks anything below it from functioning. Also, if I lay a catchall in there, it block everything else. I suspect I'm using a hammer when I should be using a saw. Is the transparent button feasible? Maybe a transparent png hot object? (or do i run into the same precedence issue?) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Mon Feb 28 14:34:27 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:34:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adding Audio and Graphics to Interactive Elements Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Yes, I am using the standalone version of Xerte and the project wide template. Thank you very much for the information about the Page Wizards. I looked at your demo,.....wow! I installed your Page Wizards but when I try to access them I get the message "you can only add page templates to the interface or framework icons". The link to the "Guide to installing and using Page Wizards.pdf" is broken: http://wiki.xerte.net/images/d/d7/Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf Can you please direct me to some instructions for using the Page Wizards? Thanks again. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 16:43:48 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:48 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Changes in Javascript security Message-ID: Hi all, Our install of toolkits can be accessed (by Nottingham staff only) at http://www/toolkits/ , which is the same as http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/ I tend to use the short hand - as it's well, shorter. I noticed today that the shorter version has stopped working, and on checking the JS - it dies when it tries to access the new window object in javascript. I assume that a change has occurred where www does not translate as www.nottingham.ac.uk Has anyone else noticed something similar? Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Feb 28 17:53:22 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:53:22 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Adding Audio and Graphics to Interactive Elements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Deborah, Sorry about the link to the Page Wizard instruction file. Not sure what has happened there. If you go to the Page Wizards page of the Xerte Wiki and then follow the link to the guide to using Page Wizards, but instead of selecting the current version you select the one before it dated 4th July 2010 you will be able to download the guide in pdf format. The only difference between the July and October releases of the Guide will be that a couple of new Page Wizards were added in October that won't be described in the July release. There have been a few modifications to the pages in the PageTemplates project wide template, which I am playing catchup with at the moment. So I will be releasing an updated version of the Page Wizards in the next few weeks. At that time I will release an update to the guide, which should fix the broken link. In the mean time don't let this put you off trying out the Page Wizards. Because Page Wizards reveal their structure to you, they are an excellent way to learn to use Xerte because each page is a worked example that you can play with. Have fun, and if you have any questions about Page Wizards just fire away! Kind regards Johnathan On 28 February 2011 14:34, Deborah Delin wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > Yes, I am using the standalone version of Xerte and the project wide > template. > > Thank you very much for the information about the Page Wizards. I looked > at your demo,.....wow! I installed your Page Wizards but when I try to > access them I get the message "you can only add page templates to the > interface or framework icons". > > The link to the "Guide to installing and using Page Wizards.pdf" is > broken: > > http://wiki.xerte.net/images/d/d7/Guide_to_installing_and_using_Page_Wizards.pdf > > > Can you please direct me to some instructions for using the Page Wizards? > > Thanks again. > > Deborah > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: