[Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

Alistair McNaught Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk
Fri Aug 19 15:39:57 BST 2011


Looks really interesting. Could I tab my way into the content from Xerte or is it mouse dependent?

A

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 August 2011 15:06
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

The nerd part of me said straight away you could send feedback (some google docs form?).

Twasn't a lot of code.
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Well worth doing that one: now you can embed any web based content, either via embed or object code, or by a url directly into the learning object: could refine it a bit to allow choice of size, layout, etc, but really good for integrating all sorts of things that were clumsy to do before. Cheers Pat.



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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 August 2011 13:33
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit



delete



var close_pop_up = document.createElement("P");

close_pop_up.innerHTML = '<a

href="javascript:document.getElementById("popup_parent").removeChild(this.parentNode.parentNode)>X</a>';

create_div.appendChild(close_pop_up);



I'd create a 2d array in the JS and then when a page loads send a

message to a function which then displays all popups registered in the

array - and an array_pop to the function above to handle GC





On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Julian Tenney

<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

> Yes, I'm sort of finding out the issues: got a working proto on my desktop now. First thing needed was a killPopup function... and I can add stuff to say 'if (we have a popup) kill it before making a new one,

>

> Cheers, should be able to take it from here,

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley

> Sent: 19 August 2011 11:10

> To: Xerte discussion list

> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>

> seems fine to me, but this will create multiple pop ups (might need to

> be a hard-coded - click to close) option else when you move pages.....

>

> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney

> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>> Does this make sense Pat?

>>

>> function makePopUp(type,x,y,width,height,bgColour,borderColour,src)

>> {

>>        //make the div and style it (we always do this)...

>>        var create_div = document.createElement("DIV");

>>        create_div.style.height = height + "px";

>>        create_div.style.width = width + "px";

>>        create_div.style.position = "absolute";

>>        create_div.style.top = x + "px";

>>        create_div.style.left = y + "px";

>>        create_div.style.background = bgColour;

>>        create_div.style.border = "1px solid " + borderColour;

>>

>>        //if we make a div, set the innerHTML

>>        if (type == 'div')

>>        {

>>                create_div.innerHTML = src;

>>        }

>>

>>        //else we make an iframe, so set the URL

>>        if(type == 'iframe')

>>        {

>>                var iframe_create_div = document.createElement("IFRAME");

>>                iframe_create_div.src = src;

>>                iframe_create_div.style.height = height + "px";

>>                iframe_create_div.style.width = width + "px";

>>                create_div.appendChild(iframe_create_div);

>>        }

>>

>>        //we're done: append the finished div

>>        document.getElementById("popup_parent").appendChild(create_div);

>> }

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley

>> Sent: 17 August 2011 18:40

>> To: Xerte discussion list

>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>

>> In zip modified preview_xerte_top - including fixed link for testing (and functions and slight HTML mods)

>>

>> and modfied rloobject.js (wmode = opaque) to allow for zindex pops up above the flash.

>>

>> DO NOT ADD TO YOUR SITE THESE ARE DEVELOPMENT VERSIONS

>>

>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com<mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:

>>> i was more thinking text focus on pop up?

>>>

>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Julian Tenney

>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>> We can scale the div based on the stage size when the function is called, but resizing it if the stage is resized afterwards would be pain. Let's get a basic version working, then we can figure out the other bits and pieces.

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat

>>>> Lockley

>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 11:03

>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>

>>>> Yeah, I would make it dynamically this way you could create multiple

>>>> pop ups. And it would solve the "why can't it take this format issue".

>>>> Then I'd recode media + quota to allow for a JS pop up code block as

>>>> well?

>>>>

>>>> Might mess with the accessibility though.

>>>>

>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Julian Tenney

>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>>> What happens when Joe User changes the size of the stage?

>>>>>

>>>>> Can you easily code me a makeDiv() function?

>>>>>

>>>>> makeDiv(x,y,w,h,src,draggable);

>>>>>

>>>>> x: x coord of the div;

>>>>> y: y coord of the div

>>>>> w: width of the div

>>>>> h: height of the div

>>>>> src: either the html for the div, or a url for the iframe: the

>>>>> function can decide which it is [if (src.substr(0,1) == '<' or

>>>>> similar]

>>>>> draggable: whether to all the div to be draggable or not - default

>>>>> false

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat

>>>>> Lockley

>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 10:26

>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>>

>>>>> yeah, perhaps a "draggable" and or / an 'src' option which could do an iframe?

>>>>>

>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Julian Tenney

>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>> I'd wondered about a hack I'd seen somewhere else, where you can position the div with the funny content in it over the flash movie at a place / size of your choosing, making it appear part of the flash content itself: then you could put up a whitepanel type page, and pop, say, a windows media player control over the top of it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> How would we do it? With a new page type?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Preview_xerte_top is the place for any js functions that xerte

>>>>>> calls: adding

>>>>>>

>>>>>> makeDiv(x,y,w,h,htmlSource) //does that sound the right approach?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Would be easy enough...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat

>>>>>> Lockley

>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:58

>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>>>

>>>>>> J, hows about this.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> A bit of JS you can trigger inside the play screen which pops up a

>>>>>> div within the window itself?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'd guess it wouldn't be a lot to code (i'd offer) and it'd mean

>>>>>> the people with non-content would have an answer

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Julian Tenney

>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>> This will update all the templates stuff: I'm just trying to

>>>>>>> unpick from the svn logs the various changes / dependencies etc.

>>>>>>> Then you can update your templates to those in 1.6, and leave the rest of the application as it is.

>>>>>>> Bear with me...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Matt

>>>>>>> Lingard

>>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:29

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Wow, thanks Julian.  We've not upgraded to 1.6 yet, presumably

>>>>>>> we'd need to as well.

>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>> Matt

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Julian Tenney

>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You'll need to update some files: bear with me and I'll make a zip

>>>>>>> for you,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Matt

>>>>>>> Lingard

>>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:27

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks Julian.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> We are using the Online Toolkit and my understanding was that

>>>>>>> newWindow is not an option in this version?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by svn - I'm new to Xerte

>>>>>>> and have limited technical knowledge (not just of xerte!)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Matt

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Julian Tenney

>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In the newWindow page there is an optional 'html' property. If you

>>>>>>> add that property, you can write HTML for the webpage that will

>>>>>>> open, so put your embed code in there, and it will be passed to

>>>>>>> the new window to become the newWindow's source.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Then you can embed whatever you want, and there's no need to move

>>>>>>> the media from its home.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You might need an updated newWindow model from the svn.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>

>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat

>>>>>>> Lockley

>>>>>>> Sent: 16 August 2011 17:59

>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list

>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> <a href="url" target="_blank">link text</a> is the only option

>>>>>>> short of media converting

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> depends on what else you'd want to do, the xerte code lives inside

>>>>>>> a div, so you could write a popup div block of code. Inside that

>>>>>>> DIV is an iframe. Use javascript to set that iframe SRC and show the div.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That might be a feature worth coding.....

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Matt Lingard <mattlingard at gmail.com<mailto:mattlingard at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Thanks Pat. That's good to know.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> In this case, we were hoping to keep the media on it's existing

>>>>>>>> server rather than having to copy it to our xerte server. Not

>>>>>>>> possible I'm guessing.

>>>>>>>> Matt

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Pat Lockley

>>>>>>>> <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com<mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You can use the media and quota tab in properties to upload any

>>>>>>>>> file, it'll then give you the HTML <a> tag for that file. Still

>>>>>>>>> a target="_blank" in there and it should open in a new window anyways.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Matt Lingard

>>>>>>>>> <mattlingard at gmail.com<mailto:mattlingard at gmail.com>>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> > Hi everyone,

>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>> > From browsing back through various messages I'm pretty certain

>>>>>>>>> > the answer is "no", but just wanted to be 100% certain that

>>>>>>>>> > I'm understanding Xerte (as a newbie).

>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>> > I want to be able to embed some video in a template created

>>>>>>>>> > with the online toolkit.  The code I've been supplied with is

>>>>>>>>> > an <embed> and the files are mp4. Am I correct that this is a

>>>>>>>>> > non starter? And is this because Xerte is Flash rather than

>>>>>>>>> > HTML?

>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>> > And finally, I've seen a few 'new window' solutions... is this

>>>>>>>>> > a feature of the desktop version rather than the online

>>>>>>>>> > toolkit?

>>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>>> > Regards,

>>>>>>>>> > Matt

>>>>>>>>> >

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>>>>>>>>> > LSE

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