[Xerte] Re: FW: Re: Youtube Issues

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Tue Apr 5 10:27:14 BST 2011


Did you resolve this? Sounds like a server setup thing?

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem
Sent: 30 March 2011 15:59
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] FW: Re: Youtube Issues

Hey guys,

Below is an off list discussion with Pat regarding Youtube videos not
working in an install of Toolkits, if Julian or anyone can shed any
further light onto this subject I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks
Adam

On 24/03/2011 14:48, "Patrick Lockley" <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:

>Might need to go back to the list - I only do the web side - not the xml
>stuff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>Sent: 24 March 2011 14:46
>To: Patrick Lockley
>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>
>What is it that crafts the URL? I can see that the Youtube.rlm gets the
>video id and passes it off somewhere but I don't see where it presents
>that id to make it play the video.
>
>Ad
>
>On 24/03/2011 12:28, "Patrick Lockley" <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Must be something making screwy URLS.....
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>Sent: 24 March 2011 12:28
>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>
>>The plot thickens.
>>
>>On the same un-accessible from the internet server as my XOT install
>>resides, I have a Moodle install. I have just successfully used the same
>>embed code that is failing in Xerte in Moodle and the embed works.
>>
>>Confusion reigns!
>>
>>Ad
>>
>>On 24/03/2011 10:58, "Patrick Lockley" <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>When I access youtube from my pc, it often says "lots of people have
>>>accesses youtube from this ip address" so it must do some checking....
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>Sent: 24 March 2011 10:58
>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>
>>>Yep... Oh I see your thinking. Hmm
>>>
>>>I'll investigate!
>>>
>>>Ad
>>>
>>>On 24/03/2011 10:46, "Patrick Lockley"
>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is your VLE accessible from outside your network?
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>Sent: 24 March 2011 10:39
>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>
>>>>Hey, I just tried embedding the same embed code within our VLE and it
>>>>works... So it can't want something back.
>>>>
>>>>The plot thickens...
>>>>
>>>>Adam
>>>>
>>>>On 23/03/2011 16:22, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The url might be broken as it's private and google wants a ping back?
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:30
>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>Yup, so do I.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's the same response as I get if I paste the URL into a browser
>>>>>and
>>>>>open the file it downloads in a text editor.
>>>>>
>>>>>So this is the broken URL:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el=em
>>>>>b
>>>>>e
>>>>>d
>>>>>d
>>>>>ed&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk%
>>>>>2
>>>>>F
>>>>>x
>>>>>e
>>>>>rtetoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US
>>>>>
>>>>>And it gives this repsonse:
>>>>>
>>>>>status=fail&errorcode=2&reason=Invalid+parameters.
>>>>>
>>>>>BUT
>>>>>If I change the URL to:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU&rel=0&el=em
>>>>>b
>>>>>e
>>>>>d
>>>>>d
>>>>>ed&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk%
>>>>>2
>>>>>F
>>>>>x
>>>>>e
>>>>>rtetoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US<http://www.y
>>>>>o
>>>>>u
>>>>>t
>>>>>u
>>>>>be.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el=embedded&ps=chrome
>>>>>l
>>>>>e
>>>>>s
>>>>>s
>>>>>&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk%2Fxertetoolkits%
>>>>>2
>>>>>F
>>>>>p
>>>>>r
>>>>>eview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US>
>>>>>
>>>>>I.e. Replacing the 2nd ? With an &, I get this response: (I won't
>>>>>paste
>>>>>it all, it's horrid)
>>>>>
>>>>>status=ok&ttsurl=...
>>>>>
>>>>>So the URL is broken, but I dunno where from...
>>>>>
>>>>>Ad
>>>>>
>>>>>From: Patrick Lockley
>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac
>>>>>.
>>>>>u
>>>>>k
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:18:17 +0000
>>>>>To: Adam Salem <asalem at wortech.ac.uk<mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk>>
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[cid:image001.jpg at 01CBE96D.894EC8E0]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Click on the url, then click on textview in the bottom left - I get
>>>>>invalid parameters?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:13
>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Can't, it's on an internal private server, have attached it though,
>>>>>see
>>>>>if still behaves the same...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 23/03/2011 15:05, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac
>>>>>.
>>>>>u
>>>>>k
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nah - can you send me a play link I can hit :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:05
>>>>>
>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is a paste from Fiddler's right hand pane:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Request Count:     1
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bytes Sent:     669    (headers:669; body:0)
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bytes Received: 558    (headers:508; body:50)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ACTUAL PERFORMANCE
>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>ClientConnected:    15:03:23.453
>>>>>
>>>>>>ClientBeginRequest:    15:03:23.968
>>>>>
>>>>>>ClientDoneRequest:    15:03:23.968
>>>>>
>>>>>>Gateway Determination:    15ms
>>>>>
>>>>>>DNS Lookup:         0ms
>>>>>
>>>>>>TCP/IP Connect:        0ms
>>>>>
>>>>>>HTTPS Handshake:    0ms
>>>>>
>>>>>>ServerConnected:    15:02:58.328
>>>>>
>>>>>>FiddlerBeginRequest:    15:03:23.984
>>>>>
>>>>>>ServerGotRequest:    15:03:23.984
>>>>>
>>>>>>ServerBeginResponse:    15:03:24.109
>>>>>
>>>>>>ServerDoneResponse:    15:03:24.109
>>>>>
>>>>>>ClientBeginResponse:    15:03:24.109
>>>>>
>>>>>>ClientDoneResponse:    15:03:24.109
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Overall Elapsed:    00:00:00.1406250
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>RESPONSE CODES
>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>HTTP/200:     1
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type)
>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>                        ~headers~:    508
>>>>>
>>>>>>application/x-www-form-urlencoded:    50
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ESTIMATED WORLDWIDE PERFORMANCE
>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>The following are VERY rough estimates of download times when hitting
>>>>>
>>>>>>servers based in WA, USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>US West Coast (Modem - 6KB/sec)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.10s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.10s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Japan / Northern Europe (Modem)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.15s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.15s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>China (Modem)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.45s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.45s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>US West Coast (DSL - 30KB/sec)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.10s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.10s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Japan / Northern Europe (DSL)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.15s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.15s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>China (DSL)
>>>>>
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.45s
>>>>>
>>>>>>Elapsed Time:     0.45s
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>================
>>>>>
>>>>>>Learn more about HTTP performance at
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.fiddler2.com/redir/?id=HTTPPERF
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Patrick Lockley [mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:44
>>>>>
>>>>>>To: Adam Salem
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It returns me some text - if you click on the url fiddler should show
>>>>>
>>>>>>you some text in the bottom right panel?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:43
>>>>>
>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>200
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>But I assume that's just because it gets a page back and doesn¹t fail
>>>>>
>>>>>>at a HTTP level.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 23/03/2011 14:28, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>>>
>>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.a
>>>>>>c
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>u
>>>>>>k
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yep, but then why would it fail only with you - what does fiddler
>>>>>>>show
>>>>>
>>>>>>>as the response from youtube?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:24
>>>>>
>>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Correct, but all I'm adding in the LO is the Embed code from
>>>>>>>Youtube,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>XOT must create this request somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ad
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 23/03/2011 14:15, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>>>
>>>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>c
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>u
>>>>>>>k>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I strip it back to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It works?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 13:07
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think the URL that gets sent to Youtube is malformed... It
>>>>>>>>contains
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2 ?'s.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>e
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mbe
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>d
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>d
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>e
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>d&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Eu
>>>>>>>>k
>>>>>>>>%
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2Fx
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>e
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>r
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>t
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>etoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This generates a failed request from YT.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I guess this URL is constructed within the RLM somewhere? If so,
>>>>>>>>how
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>can we/I fix it?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 22/03/2011 15:51, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>>>
>>>>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>c
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>uk>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Works here?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You got fiddler / charles installed?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: 22 March 2011 15:42
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Unlisted video so don't want the link on the main list
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But here it is for you :
>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnudVK2MYfU
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 22/03/2011 15:10, "Patrick Lockley"
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingha
>>>>>>>>>m
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>c
>>>>>>>>>.uk>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Can you link to the clip?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>From:
>>>>>>>>>>xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.n
>>>>>>>>>>o
>>>>>>>>>>t
>>>>>>>>>>t
>>>>>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>>ngham.ac.uk>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Salem
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: 22 March 2011 15:09
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm currently having an issue with the Youtube page type in XOT.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm using the latest .rlm from the SVN and it's not functioning.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I paste in an embed code from youtube and when viewing the page
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>video doesn't play nor does it have a preview, upon clicking play
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the time stamp is -00:01/-00:01.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
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