From mattewens at rsc-south-west.ac.uk Fri Apr 1 08:45:12 2011 From: mattewens at rsc-south-west.ac.uk (Matt Ewens) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:45:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Unsubscribe Message-ID: <5C5EC47B3EE3BF4FAA7304072E3A169C870CA360FF@ILS131.uopnet.plymouth.ac.uk> Hi there, Please can I be unsubscribed from the list. Many thanks, Matt Ewens Do you have a potential case study you think could make a good example for other providers? Please contact me to discuss the potential and the chance to have a published study on the Excellence Gateway website. 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Tom (Thanks Tom!) has tested on his Moodle install and it works as expected. The hosting service I am loading to uses Moodle 1.9.11. I do not think the version is the issue. Is it possible to disable specific data elements? Since suspend_data is one of the few places you can dump stuff on the LMS, maybe they disabled for security reasons? Dave Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:21:58 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls I tried it on a quiz in moodle 2 (Moodle 2.0.2 (Build: 20110221)) It works (as long as you do not start a new attempt). Than suspend_data gets erased. I am happy to test your file. Regards, Tom Op 31-3-2011 19:08, Dave Burnett schreef: Anyone have Moodle access? I have a barebones 150K zip with nothing but a set/get pair. Could this hosting service have killed the stored proc for suspend_data or something? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:49:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls it ought to commit onUnload of the web apge, I think, if it hasn't already. But there's no need to: that's all handled by the js. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 17:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can't suss it. alert("api var " + api); [object object] setValue alert(name); //cmi.suspend_data alert(value); //3 No errors getValue alert(value); //null No errors Do I need to force a commit or something? How do I call that from Xerte? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:49:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls never n eeded to in the tset stuite: the suite should tell you whether things are initalising or not? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 15:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can I turn on debugging for the API intialization? I set var _Debug = true; in apiwrapper.js but get nothing. Does that necessarily mean it setting up OK? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls check the manual cmi.core.suspend_data? //but I think you're right cmi.suspend_data? What happens in the test suite? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Moodle and cmi calls Any reason for this to not work in Moodle? _level0.setValue('cmi.suspend_data', 'some text'); and _level0.getValue('cmi.suspend_data'); getValue returns null, setValue seems to do nothing. No API adapter errors come up. Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 12:02:28 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:02:28 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D8C8816.9090702@tor.nl>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D4CC4782@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D4CC485A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D4CC48EC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D4B78368@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E91D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E921@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E930@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <4D94FE86.6060305@tor.nl>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E941@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Did all that. In the wrapper, debugging true , alerts all the way through the process. No errors, but it just returns null on this system. Original system developed on (not Moodle) - works. Tom's Moodle 2 - works Tom's Moodle 1.9 - works The fact that it is returning null leads me to believe it is reading the LMS. But set is doing nothing. Has to be something in this particular setup. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:48:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls then it wouldn't comply. I suppose it's possible but I don't think that's the right tree to bark up. How far through the process can you prove things are working? You can run alerts, or get evidence all the way through the javascript fucntion calls? Does data appear to be being set from api wrapper? If you can, the problem lies on the moodle side of things. You can see the api is found and initialised? Do you have access yourself so you can try stepping through it all? I'd try and get to the point where you can prove it's not your problem to solve... Tried another package you know to be ocmpliant? I think the ADL site had some lab rats you could use. Try and get Xerte / Flash out of the picture and see what happens? That will make it easier to prove... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 April 2011 10:46 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls The plot thickens. Tom (Thanks Tom!) has tested on his Moodle install and it works as expected. The hosting service I am loading to uses Moodle 1.9.11. I do not think the version is the issue. Is it possible to disable specific data elements? Since suspend_data is one of the few places you can dump stuff on the LMS, maybe they disabled for security reasons? Dave Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:21:58 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls I tried it on a quiz in moodle 2 (Moodle 2.0.2 (Build: 20110221)) It works (as long as you do not start a new attempt). Than suspend_data gets erased. I am happy to test your file. Regards, Tom Op 31-3-2011 19:08, Dave Burnett schreef: Anyone have Moodle access? I have a barebones 150K zip with nothing but a set/get pair. Could this hosting service have killed the stored proc for suspend_data or something? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:49:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls it ought to commit onUnload of the web apge, I think, if it hasn't already. But there's no need to: that's all handled by the js. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 17:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can't suss it. alert("api var " + api); [object object] setValue alert(name); //cmi.suspend_data alert(value); //3 No errors getValue alert(value); //null No errors Do I need to force a commit or something? How do I call that from Xerte? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:49:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls never n eeded to in the tset stuite: the suite should tell you whether things are initalising or not? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 15:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can I turn on debugging for the API intialization? I set var _Debug = true; in apiwrapper.js but get nothing. Does that necessarily mean it setting up OK? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls check the manual cmi.core.suspend_data? //but I think you're right cmi.suspend_data? What happens in the test suite? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Moodle and cmi calls Any reason for this to not work in Moodle? _level0.setValue('cmi.suspend_data', 'some text'); and _level0.getValue('cmi.suspend_data'); getValue returns null, setValue seems to do nothing. No API adapter errors come up. Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Martin pointed me to a brilliant little free tool - ProddingSCO You just mount it on the LMS and it lets you do all sorts of diagnostics: Sample log from my test: LMSInitialize("") returns "true" LMSSetValue("cmi.core.score.raw","1") Returns "true" LMSGetValue("cmi.core.score.raw") Returns "" You tell me. No error messages, no red lights, no alerts. And no return value. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:47:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls is it your problem then? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 April 2011 12:02 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Did all that. In the wrapper, debugging true , alerts all the way through the process. No errors, but it just returns null on this system. Original system developed on (not Moodle) - works. Tom's Moodle 2 - works Tom's Moodle 1.9 - works The fact that it is returning null leads me to believe it is reading the LMS. But set is doing nothing. Has to be something in this particular setup. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:48:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls then it wouldn't comply. I suppose it's possible but I don't think that's the right tree to bark up. How far through the process can you prove things are working? You can run alerts, or get evidence all the way through the javascript fucntion calls? Does data appear to be being set from api wrapper? If you can, the problem lies on the moodle side of things. You can see the api is found and initialised? Do you have access yourself so you can try stepping through it all? I'd try and get to the point where you can prove it's not your problem to solve... Tried another package you know to be ocmpliant? I think the ADL site had some lab rats you could use. Try and get Xerte / Flash out of the picture and see what happens? That will make it easier to prove... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 April 2011 10:46 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls The plot thickens. Tom (Thanks Tom!) has tested on his Moodle install and it works as expected. The hosting service I am loading to uses Moodle 1.9.11. I do not think the version is the issue. Is it possible to disable specific data elements? Since suspend_data is one of the few places you can dump stuff on the LMS, maybe they disabled for security reasons? Dave Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:21:58 +0200 From: reijnders at tor.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls I tried it on a quiz in moodle 2 (Moodle 2.0.2 (Build: 20110221)) It works (as long as you do not start a new attempt). Than suspend_data gets erased. I am happy to test your file. Regards, Tom Op 31-3-2011 19:08, Dave Burnett schreef: Anyone have Moodle access? I have a barebones 150K zip with nothing but a set/get pair. Could this hosting service have killed the stored proc for suspend_data or something? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:49:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls it ought to commit onUnload of the web apge, I think, if it hasn't already. But there's no need to: that's all handled by the js. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 17:06 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can't suss it. alert("api var " + api); [object object] setValue alert(name); //cmi.suspend_data alert(value); //3 No errors getValue alert(value); //null No errors Do I need to force a commit or something? How do I call that from Xerte? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:49:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls never n eeded to in the tset stuite: the suite should tell you whether things are initalising or not? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 15:21 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls Can I turn on debugging for the API intialization? I set var _Debug = true; in apiwrapper.js but get nothing. Does that necessarily mean it setting up OK? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls check the manual cmi.core.suspend_data? //but I think you're right cmi.suspend_data? What happens in the test suite? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2011 12:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Moodle and cmi calls Any reason for this to not work in Moodle? _level0.setValue('cmi.suspend_data', 'some text'); and _level0.getValue('cmi.suspend_data'); getValue returns null, setValue seems to do nothing. No API adapter errors come up. Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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See attached word doc containing screenshots and descriptions/comments. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 30 March 2011 18:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta install for toolkits next version Hello all, This is the beta install for the next version of toolkits - this (bar a few changes) is likely to be the supported version soon. Please don't install over an existing one, but if you could test locally on xampp or on a server we'd be extremely grateful for your support as always. Download it from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xerteonlinetoolkits_beta.zip Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Regards, Tom Op 30-3-2011 19:50, Patrick Lockley schreef: > Hello all, > > This is the beta install for the next version of toolkits - this (bar a few changes) is likely to be the supported version soon. > > Please don't install over an existing one, but if you could test locally on xampp or on a server we'd be extremely grateful for your support as always. > > Download it from > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xerteonlinetoolkits_beta.zip > > > Pat Lockley > IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus > > ext 68882 > 0115 84 68882 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From hcoachmd at gmail.com Sun Apr 3 18:59:52 2011 From: hcoachmd at gmail.com (Kevin Henderson) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:59:52 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle Message-ID: Do u have a special install for Moodle? Kevin On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Patrick Lockley < Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Hello all, > > This is the beta install for the next version of toolkits - this (bar a few > changes) is likely to be the supported version soon. > > Please don't install over an existing one, but if you could test locally on > xampp or on a server we'd be extremely grateful for your support as always. > > Download it from > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xerteonlinetoolkits_beta.zip > > > Pat Lockley > IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus > > ext 68882 > 0115 84 68882 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 09:00:40 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:00:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The moodle install is the default install, which when finished a patch is applied too. The link for the patch is recorded somewhere in the archives (it's not supported officially). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kevin Henderson Sent: 03 April 2011 19:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle Do u have a special install for Moodle? Kevin On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Patrick Lockley > wrote: Hello all, This is the beta install for the next version of toolkits - this (bar a few changes) is likely to be the supported version soon. Please don't install over an existing one, but if you could test locally on xampp or on a server we'd be extremely grateful for your support as always. Download it from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xerteonlinetoolkits_beta.zip Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName("myProtoPageName") than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave ________________________________ From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?myProtoPageName?) than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have :the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PMSubject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentationHi, I am very new in Xerte.I am trying to understand the simple presentation template.I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons.However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages.What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any helpPatricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:10:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 11:16:22 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:16:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation In-Reply-To: References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Use getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName("myProtoPageName") than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave ________________________________ From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 11:39:10 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 06:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Unleash the hounds on whoever built that template. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:16:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentationUse getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?myProtoPageName?) than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have :the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PMSubject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentationHi, I am very new in Xerte.I am trying to understand the simple presentation template.I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons.However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages.What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any helpPatricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patricia at e-w-i.nl Mon Apr 4 12:17:29 2011 From: patricia at e-w-i.nl (Patricia Heijmen) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway> Thank you, but still it doesn't work. I tried both in the origanal template without the entryframe: icon.parentnode.getChildByID("proto").duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); (I gave the icon an ID "proto" icon.parentNode.getChildByName("protoPage").duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); I only get the first page with correct text. But there are 3 pages. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Use getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName("myProtoPageName") than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 12:31:20 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:31:20 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation In-Reply-To: <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway> References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway> Message-ID: You have to address the specific parent/sibling structure. Julian was giving an example. Look at the layout. icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); parentNode of makePages = Learning Object Does Learning Object have a direct child called 'protoPage'? No. Try this: icon.nextSibling.getChildByName('protoPage').duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Because the makePages nextSibling (Interface) has a direct child named protoPage So your pages will be duplicated. But other things will appear undefined as they are also making relative position assumptions that no longer hold. Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you, but still it doesn't work. I tried both in the origanal template without the entryframe: icon.parentnode.getChildByID("proto").duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); (I gave the icon an ID "proto" icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); I only get the first page with correct text. But there are 3 pages. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Use getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?myProtoPageName?) than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patricia at e-w-i.nl Mon Apr 4 13:14:43 2011 From: patricia at e-w-i.nl (Patricia Heijmen) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:14:43 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway> Message-ID: <3A72FBD54624440E8D7C015343C6437F@Eway> Thank you, thank you, Now I understand. Now it works. Best regards, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to address the specific parent/sibling structure. Julian was giving an example. Look at the layout. icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); parentNode of makePages = Learning Object Does Learning Object have a direct child called 'protoPage'? No. Try this: icon.nextSibling.getChildByName('protoPage').duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Because the makePages nextSibling (Interface) has a direct child named protoPage So your pages will be duplicated. But other things will appear undefined as they are also making relative position assumptions that no longer hold. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you, but still it doesn't work. I tried both in the origanal template without the entryframe: icon.parentnode.getChildByID("proto").duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); (I gave the icon an ID "proto" icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); I only get the first page with correct text. But there are 3 pages. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Use getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?myProtoPageName?) than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? 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From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:14:43 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you, thank you, Now I understand. Now it works. Best regards, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to address the specific parent/sibling structure. Julian was giving an example. Look at the layout. icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); parentNode of makePages = Learning Object Does Learning Object have a direct child called 'protoPage'? No. Try this: icon.nextSibling.getChildByName('protoPage').duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Because the makePages nextSibling (Interface) has a direct child named protoPage So your pages will be duplicated. But other things will appear undefined as they are also making relative position assumptions that no longer hold. Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you, but still it doesn't work. I tried both in the origanal template without the entryframe: icon.parentnode.getChildByID("proto").duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); (I gave the icon an ID "proto" icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?protoPage?).duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); I only get the first page with correct text. But there are 3 pages. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Julian Tenney To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You can also use getChildByID() ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation And then make sure not to change any names. ;-) From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Use getChildByName() to avoid having to know the structure / number of children. Much better to say icon.parentNode.getChildByName(?myProtoPageName?) than to say icon.nextSibling() etc where if the structure changes, so does your code, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 04 April 2011 09:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation Thank you Dave, I am a bit further now. But still have some trouble. Now I have : the make pages icon, then the interface icon, the interface icon contains an entry frame, and the protopage. So I addes only an entry frame. I made 3 pages with the template I changed the code in the makepagesicon into: icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); icon.nextSibling.attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].name; //set the page titles for (i = 0; i < templateData.presentation[0].page.length; i++){ icon.nextSibling.childNodes[i].attributes.title = templateData.presentation[0].page[i].name; } If I preview the presentation and I got only one page: Page 2. It contains the right text and picture but there should be 3 pages. Then I changed icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); into icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1].duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); Then with previewing I got 3 pages, it doesn't show page 1, then it shows page 2 and 3 (with correct pictures and text) and then it shows a page undefined. I should think icon.nextSibling.childNodes[2] is the protoPage? But why doesn't that work? and why do I get some result with icon.nextSibling.childNodes[1]? And why I don't get page 1 then? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burnett To: Xerte list Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:21 PM Subject: [Xerte] Re: simple presentation You have to be very careful around template architecture. You see the script icon above the Interface icon called makePages? Open it up and look at the first line of code. icon.nextSibling.firstChild.duplicate(templateData.presentation[0].page.length - 1); That is making the pages of your presentation: icon = here, this icon nextSibling = next icon downward firstChild = next icon rightward duplicate = duplicate So it is saying, duplicate the protoPage icon x number of times. When you insert your entry pane on to the Interface page, you have inserted a sibling between makePages and the target, protoPage. So the relative logic is destroyed and the piece is not being built. You would have to adjust all the relative references in the piece to take into account the added entrypane icon. HTH Dave From: patricia at e-w-i.nl To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] simple presentation Hi, I am very new in Xerte. I am trying to understand the simple presentation template. I would like to ad an entry frame to the interface icon and then add som cusom buttons. However, when I insert an entry frame, the application doesn't work correctly anymore. The text icon shows 'undefined' and I cannot go through the pages. What I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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I would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, such as the schwa. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From simonbarne at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 15:51:16 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:51:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something you're not telling me? On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > To: xerte > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, such > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 15:58:36 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:58:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something you're not telling me? On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > To: xerte > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, such > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 16:14:38 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:14:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something you're not telling me? On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > To: xerte > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, such > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 16:26:25 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:26:25 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] erasing a component? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: glosscompid.erase(); Nothing. 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Try escaping the \ like \\u > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > you're not telling me? > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > To: xerte > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > such > > as the schwa. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 16:27:57 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:27:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> removeMovieClip() you in AW mode? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 16:26 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] erasing a component? glosscompid.erase(); Nothing. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 16:44:56 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:44:56 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Usage iconID.erase() Just not for a component? The component has an ID, so I thought it was fair game. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:27:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? removeMovieClip() you in AW mode? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 16:26 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] erasing a component? glosscompid.erase(); Nothing. Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 16:46:02 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:46:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Debug(iconID.erase) - is there a function there? It might not be an ICON. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 16:45 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? Usage iconID.erase() Just not for a component? The component has an ID, so I thought it was fair game. ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:27:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? removeMovieClip() you in AW mode? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 04 April 2011 16:26 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] erasing a component? glosscompid.erase(); Nothing. Dave This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 16:59:19 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:59:19 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: erasing a component? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: From simonbarne at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 17:07:41 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:07:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. Is that the reason? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT It's got to be in an expression, I think: {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > you're not telling me? > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > To: xerte > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > such > > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 4 17:08:54 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:08:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: Try this one: (c) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. Is that the reason? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT It's got to be in an expression, I think: {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > you're not telling me? > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > To: xerte > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > such > > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Mon Apr 4 17:14:16 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> Message-ID: What I wrote worked for me in desktop Xerte. All of the text in the text icon must be within the curly braces and must be quoted. > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:08 AM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am > using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > > > Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > > > Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > > you're not telling me? > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > > > ? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > > To: xerte > > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > > such > > > as the schwa. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message > in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please > do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From simonbarne at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 17:55:37 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:55:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. Any more ideas? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: Try this one: (c) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. Is that the reason? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT It's got to be in an expression, I think: {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > you're not telling me? > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > To: xerte > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > such > > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:01:00 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] List component .fla stuff In-Reply-To: <3A72FBD54624440E8D7C015343C6437F@Eway> References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, ,,, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway>, , <3A72FBD54624440E8D7C015343C6437F@Eway> Message-ID: I have a list component that loads up some glossary .xml to populate. When the user clicks an entry in the left pane listing, the definition appears in the right. On setup It would be nice to have the default selectedIndex at 0, but I can't get it to do that. Any ideas? function init(initObject){ for (i = 0; i < initObject.glossData.PAGE.length; i++) { glosslist.addItem({label:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].TITLE[0], def:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].QUES[0]}); } } glosslist.selectedIndex = 0; //Create listener object. var listListener:Object = new Object(); listListener.change = function (evt_obj:Object) { def_string = "" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.label + "
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" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.def; deffield.htmlText = def_string; } //Add listener. glosslist.addEventListener("change", listListener); stop(); -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 08:15:25 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:15:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: List component .fla stuff In-Reply-To: References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, ,,, ,,, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway>, , <3A72FBD54624440E8D7C015343C6437F@Eway>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E945@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 08:16:08 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:16:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. Any more ideas? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: Try this one: (c) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. Is that the reason? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT It's got to be in an expression, I think: {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something > you're not telling me? > > > > On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD > > > > ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- > bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 > > To: xerte > > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT > > > > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I > > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, > such > > as the schwa. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 09:31:49 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:31:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 09:50:15 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:50:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 09:41:23 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:41:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D893FF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Not in the flash player... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 09:53:20 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:53:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There is some serious voodoo in doing that: it's the same process for loading up resources.swf. That would be one way to go. Compile a resources.swf with the font in you want to include, and then modify the template to load that as the default font. I have a suspicion you won't find a font with all the glyphs in you need. Play around with standalone Xerte until you think you've got a solution. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 09:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:02:12 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:02:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If you replace resources.swf with your own - what rules are there to follow? I am thinking for people who might need different fonts to support more diverse UK languages (gujerati, urdu, Cyrillic fonts?) amongst userbases? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 09:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT There is some serious voodoo in doing that: it's the same process for loading up resources.swf. That would be one way to go. Compile a resources.swf with the font in you want to include, and then modify the template to load that as the default font. I have a suspicion you won't find a font with all the glyphs in you need. Play around with standalone Xerte until you think you've got a solution. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 09:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 10:04:28 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:04:28 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:05:47 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:05:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89448@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> thanks From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF379.08A38E40] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:05:50 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:05:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89449@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> None. It will load the resources.swf it finds. The default one is empty. If you compile one yourself, it will use that, but you need to set the default font in the styles / properties to the one you've embedded. You can include as many fonts as you like, but the resources.swf will get big, and will decrease start up time. It has to load before the engine can load and parse the xml. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If you replace resources.swf with your own - what rules are there to follow? I am thinking for people who might need different fonts to support more diverse UK languages (gujerati, urdu, Cyrillic fonts?) amongst userbases? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 09:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT There is some serious voodoo in doing that: it's the same process for loading up resources.swf. That would be one way to go. Compile a resources.swf with the font in you want to include, and then modify the template to load that as the default font. I have a suspicion you won't find a font with all the glyphs in you need. Play around with standalone Xerte until you think you've got a solution. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 09:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:13:41 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:13:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF37A.22FFF2F0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 10:21:48 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:21:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Do most computers have Arial Unicode installed? If I change the font in the Xerte player to Arial Unicode or Lucida Sans Unicode, everything appears correctly. It would just mean telling the user to do this. On 5 April 2011 09:50, Patrick Lockley wrote: > Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? > > That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... > > > On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: >> you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. >> >> Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. >> >> Any more ideas? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: >> >> Try this one: >> >> (c) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. >> Is that the reason? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson >> Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> It's got to be in an expression, I think: >> >> {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >>> you're not telling me? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >>> > >>> > ? >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >>> > To: xerte >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >>> > >>> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >>> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >>> such >>> > as the schwa. >>> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:14:10 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:14:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89449@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89449@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: So after resources.swf loads it's just a CSS question? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 10:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT None. It will load the resources.swf it finds. The default one is empty. If you compile one yourself, it will use that, but you need to set the default font in the styles / properties to the one you've embedded. You can include as many fonts as you like, but the resources.swf will get big, and will decrease start up time. It has to load before the engine can load and parse the xml. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 10:02 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT If you replace resources.swf with your own - what rules are there to follow? I am thinking for people who might need different fonts to support more diverse UK languages (gujerati, urdu, Cyrillic fonts?) amongst userbases? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 09:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT There is some serious voodoo in doing that: it's the same process for loading up resources.swf. That would be one way to go. Compile a resources.swf with the font in you want to include, and then modify the template to load that as the default font. I have a suspicion you won't find a font with all the glyphs in you need. Play around with standalone Xerte until you think you've got a solution. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 09:50 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: > you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. > > Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. > > Any more ideas? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: > > Try this one: > > (c) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. > Is that the reason? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson > Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > It's got to be in an expression, I think: > > {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >> you're not telling me? >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >> > >> > ? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >> > To: xerte >> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >> > >> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >> such >> > as the schwa. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:22:25 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:22:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: That's probably a google question - am guessing it comes with windows? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Do most computers have Arial Unicode installed? If I change the font in the Xerte player to Arial Unicode or Lucida Sans Unicode, everything appears correctly. It would just mean telling the user to do this. On 5 April 2011 09:50, Patrick Lockley wrote: > Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? > > That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... > > > On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: >> you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. >> >> Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. >> >> Any more ideas? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: >> >> Try this one: >> >> (c) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. >> Is that the reason? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson >> Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> It's got to be in an expression, I think: >> >> {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >>> you're not telling me? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >>> > >>> > ? >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >>> > To: xerte >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >>> > >>> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >>> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >>> such >>> > as the schwa. >>> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:25:54 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:25:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8948E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You'll need to make some judgement. It didn't come with Win95, but that's not a problem these days (is it?). You'll also have to look for a font that is on Macs and PCs, and then see how many of your users meet the requirements you set: you cannot do if Mac do this font else do this other font. You won't get 100%. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT That's probably a google question - am guessing it comes with windows? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 10:22 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT Do most computers have Arial Unicode installed? If I change the font in the Xerte player to Arial Unicode or Lucida Sans Unicode, everything appears correctly. It would just mean telling the user to do this. On 5 April 2011 09:50, Patrick Lockley wrote: > Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? > > That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... > > > On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: >> you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. >> >> Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. >> >> Any more ideas? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: >> >> Try this one: >> >> (c) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. >> Is that the reason? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson >> Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> It's got to be in an expression, I think: >> >> {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >>> you're not telling me? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >>> > >>> > ? >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >>> > To: xerte >>> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >>> > >>> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >>> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >>> such >>> > as the schwa. >>> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:27:14 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:27:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Re: Youtube Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D89495@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Did you resolve this? Sounds like a server setup thing? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 30 March 2011 15:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] FW: Re: Youtube Issues Hey guys, Below is an off list discussion with Pat regarding Youtube videos not working in an install of Toolkits, if Julian or anyone can shed any further light onto this subject I'd be very grateful. Many thanks Adam On 24/03/2011 14:48, "Patrick Lockley" wrote: >Might need to go back to the list - I only do the web side - not the xml >stuff > >-----Original Message----- >From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >Sent: 24 March 2011 14:46 >To: Patrick Lockley >Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues > >What is it that crafts the URL? I can see that the Youtube.rlm gets the >video id and passes it off somewhere but I don't see where it presents >that id to make it play the video. > >Ad > >On 24/03/2011 12:28, "Patrick Lockley" >wrote: > >>Must be something making screwy URLS..... >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>Sent: 24 March 2011 12:28 >>To: Patrick Lockley >>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >> >>The plot thickens. >> >>On the same un-accessible from the internet server as my XOT install >>resides, I have a Moodle install. I have just successfully used the same >>embed code that is failing in Xerte in Moodle and the embed works. >> >>Confusion reigns! >> >>Ad >> >>On 24/03/2011 10:58, "Patrick Lockley" >>wrote: >> >>>When I access youtube from my pc, it often says "lots of people have >>>accesses youtube from this ip address" so it must do some checking.... >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>Sent: 24 March 2011 10:58 >>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>> >>>Yep... Oh I see your thinking. Hmm >>> >>>I'll investigate! >>> >>>Ad >>> >>>On 24/03/2011 10:46, "Patrick Lockley" >>> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Is your VLE accessible from outside your network? >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>Sent: 24 March 2011 10:39 >>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>> >>>>Hey, I just tried embedding the same embed code within our VLE and it >>>>works... So it can't want something back. >>>> >>>>The plot thickens... >>>> >>>>Adam >>>> >>>>On 23/03/2011 16:22, "Patrick Lockley" >>>> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>The url might be broken as it's private and google wants a ping back? >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:30 >>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>Yup, so do I. >>>>> >>>>>That's the same response as I get if I paste the URL into a browser >>>>>and >>>>>open the file it downloads in a text editor. >>>>> >>>>>So this is the broken URL: >>>>> >>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el=em >>>>>b >>>>>e >>>>>d >>>>>d >>>>>ed&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk% >>>>>2 >>>>>F >>>>>x >>>>>e >>>>>rtetoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US >>>>> >>>>>And it gives this repsonse: >>>>> >>>>>status=fail&errorcode=2&reason=Invalid+parameters. >>>>> >>>>>BUT >>>>>If I change the URL to: >>>>> >>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU&rel=0&el=em >>>>>b >>>>>e >>>>>d >>>>>d >>>>>ed&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk% >>>>>2 >>>>>F >>>>>x >>>>>e >>>>>rtetoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US>>>>o >>>>>u >>>>>t >>>>>u >>>>>be.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el=embedded&ps=chrome >>>>>l >>>>>e >>>>>s >>>>>s >>>>>&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Euk%2Fxertetoolkits% >>>>>2 >>>>>F >>>>>p >>>>>r >>>>>eview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US> >>>>> >>>>>I.e. Replacing the 2nd ? With an &, I get this response: (I won't >>>>>paste >>>>>it all, it's horrid) >>>>> >>>>>status=ok&ttsurl=... >>>>> >>>>>So the URL is broken, but I dunno where from... >>>>> >>>>>Ad >>>>> >>>>>From: Patrick Lockley >>>>>>>>>. >>>>>u >>>>>k >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:18:17 +0000 >>>>>To: Adam Salem > >>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>[cid:image001.jpg at 01CBE96D.894EC8E0] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Click on the url, then click on textview in the bottom left - I get >>>>>invalid parameters? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:13 >>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Can't, it's on an internal private server, have attached it though, >>>>>see >>>>>if still behaves the same... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 23/03/2011 15:05, "Patrick Lockley" >>>>>>>>>. >>>>>u >>>>>k >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Nah - can you send me a play link I can hit :) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 15:05 >>>>> >>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>> >>>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>This is a paste from Fiddler's right hand pane: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Request Count: 1 >>>>> >>>>>>Bytes Sent: 669 (headers:669; body:0) >>>>> >>>>>>Bytes Received: 558 (headers:508; body:50) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>ACTUAL PERFORMANCE >>>>> >>>>>>-------------- >>>>> >>>>>>ClientConnected: 15:03:23.453 >>>>> >>>>>>ClientBeginRequest: 15:03:23.968 >>>>> >>>>>>ClientDoneRequest: 15:03:23.968 >>>>> >>>>>>Gateway Determination: 15ms >>>>> >>>>>>DNS Lookup: 0ms >>>>> >>>>>>TCP/IP Connect: 0ms >>>>> >>>>>>HTTPS Handshake: 0ms >>>>> >>>>>>ServerConnected: 15:02:58.328 >>>>> >>>>>>FiddlerBeginRequest: 15:03:23.984 >>>>> >>>>>>ServerGotRequest: 15:03:23.984 >>>>> >>>>>>ServerBeginResponse: 15:03:24.109 >>>>> >>>>>>ServerDoneResponse: 15:03:24.109 >>>>> >>>>>>ClientBeginResponse: 15:03:24.109 >>>>> >>>>>>ClientDoneResponse: 15:03:24.109 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Overall Elapsed: 00:00:00.1406250 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>RESPONSE CODES >>>>> >>>>>>-------------- >>>>> >>>>>>HTTP/200: 1 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>RESPONSE BYTES (by Content-Type) >>>>> >>>>>>-------------- >>>>> >>>>>> ~headers~: 508 >>>>> >>>>>>application/x-www-form-urlencoded: 50 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>ESTIMATED WORLDWIDE PERFORMANCE >>>>> >>>>>>-------------- >>>>> >>>>>>The following are VERY rough estimates of download times when hitting >>>>> >>>>>>servers based in WA, USA. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>US West Coast (Modem - 6KB/sec) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.10s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.10s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Japan / Northern Europe (Modem) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.15s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.15s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>China (Modem) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.45s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.45s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>US West Coast (DSL - 30KB/sec) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.10s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.10s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Japan / Northern Europe (DSL) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.15s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.15s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>China (DSL) >>>>> >>>>>>--------------- >>>>> >>>>>>Round trip cost: 0.45s >>>>> >>>>>>Elapsed Time: 0.45s >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>================ >>>>> >>>>>>Learn more about HTTP performance at >>>>> >>>>>>http://www.fiddler2.com/redir/?id=HTTPPERF >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>From: Patrick Lockley [mailto:Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:44 >>>>> >>>>>>To: Adam Salem >>>>> >>>>>>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>It returns me some text - if you click on the url fiddler should show >>>>> >>>>>>you some text in the bottom right panel? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:43 >>>>> >>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>200 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>But I assume that's just because it gets a page back and doesn?t fail >>>>> >>>>>>at a HTTP level. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On 23/03/2011 14:28, "Patrick Lockley" >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>c >>>>>>. >>>>>>u >>>>>>k >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Yep, but then why would it fail only with you - what does fiddler >>>>>>>show >>>>> >>>>>>>as the response from youtube? >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 14:24 >>>>> >>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Correct, but all I'm adding in the LO is the Embed code from >>>>>>>Youtube, >>>>> >>>>>>>XOT must create this request somewhere. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Ad >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>On 23/03/2011 14:15, "Patrick Lockley" >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>c >>>>>>>. >>>>>>>u >>>>>>>k>> >>>>> >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>If I strip it back to >>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>It works? >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>>>Sent: 23 March 2011 13:07 >>>>> >>>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>Hey Patrick, >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>I think the URL that gets sent to Youtube is malformed... It >>>>>>>>contains >>>>> >>>>>>>>2 ?'s. >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=rnudVK2MYfU?rel=0&el >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>e >>>>> >>>>>>>>mbe >>>>> >>>>>>>>d >>>>> >>>>>>>>d >>>>> >>>>>>>>e >>>>> >>>>>>>>d&ps=chromeless&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Filtdev%2Estaff%2Ewortech%2Eac%2Eu >>>>>>>>k >>>>>>>>% >>>>> >>>>>>>>2Fx >>>>> >>>>>>>>e >>>>> >>>>>>>>r >>>>> >>>>>>>>t >>>>> >>>>>>>>etoolkits%2Fpreview%2Ephp%3Ftemplate%5Fid%3D18&hl=en_US >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>This generates a failed request from YT. >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>I guess this URL is constructed within the RLM somewhere? If so, >>>>>>>>how >>>>> >>>>>>>>can we/I fix it? >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>Cheers >>>>> >>>>>>>>Adam >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>On 22/03/2011 15:51, "Patrick Lockley" >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>c >>>>>>>>. >>>>>>>>uk>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Works here? >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>You got fiddler / charles installed? >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>From: Adam Salem [mailto:asalem at wortech.ac.uk] >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sent: 22 March 2011 15:42 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>To: Patrick Lockley >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Unlisted video so don't want the link on the main list >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>But here it is for you : >>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnudVK2MYfU >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cheers >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Adam >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 22/03/2011 15:10, "Patrick Lockley" >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>m >>>>>>>>>. >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>c >>>>>>>>>.uk>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Can you link to the clip? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>From: >>>>>>>>>>xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>>>>>>>>o >>>>>>>>>>t >>>>>>>>>>t >>>>>>>>>>i >>>>>>>>>>ngham.ac.uk> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Salem >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: 22 March 2011 15:09 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>To: Xerte discussion list >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I'm currently having an issue with the Youtube page type in XOT. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I'm using the latest .rlm from the SVN and it's not functioning. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I paste in an embed code from youtube and when viewing the page >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>video doesn't play nor does it have a preview, upon clicking play >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the time stamp is -00:01/-00:01. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Adam >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>- >>>>>>>>>>- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>--- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. 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Thank you. >>>>> >>>>>Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. >>>>>Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >>>>> >>>>>Don't just standby, Switch Off! >>>>> >>>>>Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>- >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 10:27:40 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:27:40 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF37C.6AC28BA0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 10:33:26 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:33:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: To answer my own question, Arial Unicode comes with Microsoft Office and Mac OS X v10.5 or later, while Lucida Sans Unicode is pre-installed with Windows and a font called Lucida Grande comes with the Mac (according to Wikipedia). Another way that seems to work is to put the text in HTML font face tags and hope that the user has one of these fonts. On 5 April 2011 10:22, Patrick Lockley wrote: > That's probably a google question - am guessing it comes with windows? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 05 April 2011 10:22 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > Do most computers have Arial Unicode installed? If I change the font > in the Xerte player to Arial Unicode or Lucida Sans Unicode, > everything appears correctly. It would just mean telling the user to > do this. > > > On 5 April 2011 09:50, Patrick Lockley wrote: >> Can you hardcode the glyphs into a swf and load them into a XOT piece? >> >> That?s not a question to you, more a too the list thought out load >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >> Sent: 05 April 2011 09:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >> >> But all the characters appear normally in emails, web pages, etc... >> >> >> On 5 April 2011 08:16, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> you'll need a font with the characters in it on the end user's system. >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:55 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> Thank you both for your help. Some characters appear OK after pasting - e.g. ????? - but most - e.g. ?????????? - appear only as little empty squares. >>> >>> Paul's line works fine in desktop Xerte but not in Toolkits, where it appears as code, with the curly brackets showing, etc. >>> >>> Any more ideas? >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 5:09 PM >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> If you can copy and apste the caharcetr from somewhere, it should work: >>> >>> Try this one: >>> >>> (c) >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 17:08 >>> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> None of these methods seem to work, I'm afraid. It is Toolkits I am using. >>> Is that the reason? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson >>> Sent: 04 April 2011 4:36 PM >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>> >>> It's got to be in an expression, I think: >>> >>> {'Here is some plain text with this \u2192 Unicode in it.'} >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:15 AM >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>>> >>>> Or paste in the character itself from somewhere? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:59 >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>>> >>>> Dunno it ought to work. Try escaping the \ like \\u >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>>> Sent: 04 April 2011 15:51 >>>> To: Xerte discussion list >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT >>>> >>>> If I put that in a XOT text box, I just get \uAABBCCDD. Something >>>> you're not telling me? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2011 15:00, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> > They should work, yes, \uAABBCCDD >>>> > >>>> > ? >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte- >>>> bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne >>>> > Sent: 04 April 2011 11:34 >>>> > To: xerte >>>> > Subject: [Xerte] Special characters in XOT >>>> > >>>> > Is there any way of using special (Unicode?) characters in Xerte? I >>>> > would like to use the IPA symbols for transcribing pronunciation, >>>> such >>>> > as the schwa. >>>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 10:37:04 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:37:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Toolkits Beta Test [was: Error on login to xerteonline] In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D6190E75@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Everyone, please, if you have ten minutes to spare today: Download the latest XAMPP and install it http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html Set up the toolkits beta in it from the beta zip file http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xerteonlinetoolkits_beta.zip The instructions are unchanged from those on the website, or as shown in the video http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/manual/installingToolkits.swf Tell us any problems. If you have a little bit longer, access to a web server, and sufficient privileges to try setting it up for real, that would be even better. Many thanks, J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 10:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF37D.502E8A40] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... 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And apparently you need to manually dispatch the change as well in order to display the result as if it had been clicked: For the archives: list component selected selection index set function init(initObject){ for (i = 0; i < initObject.glossData.PAGE.length; i++) { glosslist.addItem({label:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].TITLE[0], def:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].QUES[0]}); } glosslist.selectedIndex = 0; glosslist.dispatchEvent({type:"change", target:glosslist}); } Cheers, Dave From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:15:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: List component .fla stuff I think you are setting the selected index before the init function runs. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2011 20:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] List component .fla stuff I have a list component that loads up some glossary .xml to populate. When the user clicks an entry in the left pane listing, the definition appears in the right. On setup It would be nice to have the default selectedIndex at 0, but I can't get it to do that. Any ideas? function init(initObject){ for (i = 0; i < initObject.glossData.PAGE.length; i++) { glosslist.addItem({label:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].TITLE[0], def:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].QUES[0]}); } } glosslist.selectedIndex = 0; //Create listener object. var listListener:Object = new Object(); listListener.change = function (evt_obj:Object) { def_string = "" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.label + "
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" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.def; deffield.htmlText = def_string; } //Add listener. glosslist.addEventListener("change", listListener); stop(); This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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(as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 10:59:29 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:59:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: In case anyone is interested, there is an online Unicode phonemic typewriter, which lets you copy and paste the symbols together with the Arial Unicode and Lucida Sans Unicode font tags into XOT text boxes: http://davidbrett.uniss.it/phonemicTypewriter/phonemicTypewriter.html From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 11:02:40 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:02:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: List component .fla stuff In-Reply-To: References: <8E979BC733E545B6A4873B454869D41F@Eway>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88F60@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D88FFA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <8BDE931560B94A45A5B9B2426E924072@Eway>, , , , <3A72FBD54624440E8D7C015343C6437F@Eway>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E945@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D6190EBA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, a bit more AS3, and that will seem quite naturally the right thing to do! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 05 April 2011 10:46 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: List component .fla stuff Right you are. And apparently you need to manually dispatch the change as well in order to display the result as if it had been clicked: For the archives: list component selected selection index set function init(initObject){ for (i = 0; i < initObject.glossData.PAGE.length; i++) { glosslist.addItem({label:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].TITLE[0], def:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].QUES[0]}); } glosslist.selectedIndex = 0; glosslist.dispatchEvent({type:"change", target:glosslist}); } Cheers, Dave ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:15:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: List component .fla stuff I think you are setting the selected index before the init function runs. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2011 20:01 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] List component .fla stuff I have a list component that loads up some glossary .xml to populate. When the user clicks an entry in the left pane listing, the definition appears in the right. On setup It would be nice to have the default selectedIndex at 0, but I can't get it to do that. Any ideas? function init(initObject){ for (i = 0; i < initObject.glossData.PAGE.length; i++) { glosslist.addItem({label:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].TITLE[0], def:initObject.glossData.PAGE[i].QUES[0]}); } } glosslist.selectedIndex = 0; //Create listener object. var listListener:Object = new Object(); listListener.change = function (evt_obj:Object) { def_string = "" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.label + "
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" + evt_obj.target.selectedItem.def; deffield.htmlText = def_string; } //Add listener. glosslist.addEventListener("change", listListener); stop(); This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 11:05:51 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:05:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: "In case anyone is interested, there is an online Unicode phonemic typewriter" Possibly the best sentence ever - or is it a hitchhikers quote? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 10:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In case anyone is interested, there is an online Unicode phonemic typewriter, which lets you copy and paste the symbols together with the Arial Unicode and Lucida Sans Unicode font tags into XOT text boxes: http://davidbrett.uniss.it/phonemicTypewriter/phonemicTypewriter.html _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 11:23:10 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:23:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D891DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8925D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D8927D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00f001cbf2e2$6e488c10$4ad9a430$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5D892F1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <010701cbf2e9$207177c0$61546740$@gmail.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E946@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Online Unicode phonemic typewriters may be strange to you, but for some of us they are our bread and butter. On 5 April 2011 11:05, Patrick Lockley wrote: > "In case anyone is interested, there is an online Unicode phonemic typewriter" > > Possibly the best sentence ever - or is it a hitchhikers quote? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 05 April 2011 10:59 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Special characters in XOT > > In case anyone is interested, there is an online Unicode phonemic > typewriter, which lets you copy and paste the symbols together with > the Arial Unicode and Lucida Sans Unicode font tags into XOT text > boxes: > > http://davidbrett.uniss.it/phonemicTypewriter/phonemicTypewriter.html > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 12:13:59 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matthew Terentjev) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:13:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Copy to clipboard script. Message-ID: <001201cbf382$90b28df0$b217a9d0$@gmail.com> Dear all, I am just wondering if anyone had a script written for a button which on press will allow to copy text with the given ID into a clipboard? If someone has, I will be very grateful if you could share it.. Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 12:18:57 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:18:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix - so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that's the one I downloaded and installed... (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used... http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF380.9978DEF0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 12:19:37 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:19:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 Message-ID: All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 12:27:51 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:27:51 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix - so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that's the one I downloaded and installed. (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. Please assist. Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 12:28:57 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:28:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Should work fine - email back (the list) if not :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix - so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that's the one I downloaded and installed... (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used... http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF38D.08BCF290] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel... Please assist... Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 12:37:04 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:37:04 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <011201cbf385$cb42e570$61c8b050$@tfsband.com> Will do - thanks pat! From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine - email back (the list) if not J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix - so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that's the one I downloaded and installed. (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. Please assist. Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 12:45:14 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:45:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy to clipboard script. In-Reply-To: <001201cbf382$90b28df0$b217a9d0$@gmail.com> References: <001201cbf382$90b28df0$b217a9d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D6190FB4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> System.setClipboard("some text here"); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Matthew Terentjev Sent: 05 April 2011 12:14 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Copy to clipboard script. Dear all, I am just wondering if anyone had a script written for a button which on press will allow to copy text with the given ID into a clipboard? If someone has, I will be very grateful if you could share it.... Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 13:26:39 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:26:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 12:19, Patrick Lockley wrote: > All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier > > Download the new version (beta) from > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip > > Please :) > > Pat Lockley > IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus > > ext 68882 > 0115 84 68882 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Once the new version of Xerte On-line Toolkits is finalised will there be a release of the desktop version of xerte to provide comparable updates to the templates available? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 12:19, Patrick Lockley > wrote: All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 13:41:44 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:41:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte2 - Page templates does not disable Navigation buttons In-Reply-To: <4D8C8816.9090702@tor.nl> References: <4D8C8816.9090702@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D6191024@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I just checked in a more updated fix: yours doesn't position the help button correctly under the 'menu with page controls' option. We'll have a completely up to date set of files by the end of the week, J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 March 2011 12:19 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Xerte2 - Page templates does not disable Navigation buttons L.S., The Page Templates (of the standalone version) does not disable the navigation buttons as intended. - In the setup script I changed the following line: if (templateData.learningObject[0].navigation.indexOf('Menu') != -1 || templateData.learningObject[0].navigation != undefined ){ into if (templateData.learningObject[0].navigation.indexOf('Menu') != 0){ - I added the help button the other two sections: if (templateData.learningObject[0].nfo != undefined){ rootIcon.helpBtn._visible = true; rootIcon.helpBtn._x = 690; } Regards, Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 13:53:59 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:53:59 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine - email back (the list) if not J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix - so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that's the one I downloaded and installed. (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail - it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql - but the next screen is blank - with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 131659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 14:02:13 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matthew Terentjev) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:02:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Copy to clipboard script. Message-ID: <000001cbf391$af5bfd40$0e13f7c0$@gmail.com> Thank you, Julian! It's perfect. But. when I try to add a custom swf for a button in swf properties : FileLocation + 'media/copy.swf'. the new look button appears, however when I click on it nothing happens, script doesn't seems to be running . But the default button works great, without swf parameter! So it's not very important, but if there is a solution. on your mind ..!? =) Thank you a lot, Matthew From: Matthew Terentjev [mailto:matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:14 PM To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: Copy to clipboard script. Dear all, I am just wondering if anyone had a script written for a button which on press will allow to copy text with the given ID into a clipboard? If someone has, I will be very grateful if you could share it.. Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:07:29 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:07:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 14:28:51 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matthew Terentjev) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:28:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] FW: Copy to clipboard script. Message-ID: <000001cbf395$67c3c130$374b4390$@gmail.com> Sorry for my previous e-mail. Sorted it. Opened original button in Flash and swapped original button bmp with my new button. all works! Once again thank you! From: Matthew Terentjev [mailto:matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:02 PM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: RE: Copy to clipboard script. Thank you, Julian! It's perfect. But. when I try to add a custom swf for a button in swf properties : FileLocation + 'media/copy.swf'. the new look button appears, however when I click on it nothing happens, script doesn't seems to be running . But the default button works great, without swf parameter! So it's not very important, but if there is a solution. on your mind ..!? =) Thank you a lot, Matthew From: Matthew Terentjev [mailto:matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:14 PM To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: Copy to clipboard script. Dear all, I am just wondering if anyone had a script written for a button which on press will allow to copy text with the given ID into a clipboard? If someone has, I will be very grateful if you could share it.. Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 14:30:59 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:30:59 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:32:33 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:32:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910A4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you hit the xampp option, you should go straight into the workspace? Is this a clean setup under that option? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:34:32 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:34:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:35:53 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:35:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> Message-ID: The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From simonbarne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 14:44:58 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:44:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] HTML font tag in Xerte Online Toolkits Message-ID: I've only just discovered that you can use the HTML font tag (with color, face and size attributes) in XOT text boxes. Forgive me if this is a daft question, but as the tag is deprecated in HTML, is it something that could cause problems in Xerte now or later? From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 14:47:00 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:47:00 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> The thing is I don't mind if it is no authentication for now. What I am asking is why does it not allow me in directly to the workspace in this case? I mean if there is no authentication? Matthew mentioned something along those lines... Did I install it incorrectly? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:47:02 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:47:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: HTML font tag in Xerte Online Toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If the flash player supports it, it should be ok. Adobe might opt to depreciate it, but seems unlikely. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 14:45 To: xerte Subject: [Xerte] HTML font tag in Xerte Online Toolkits I've only just discovered that you can use the HTML font tag (with color, face and size attributes) in XOT text boxes. Forgive me if this is a daft question, but as the tag is deprecated in HTML, is it something that could cause problems in Xerte now or later? _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:52:09 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:52:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: HTML font tag in Xerte Online Toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910C4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It won't stop working. In the more recent Flash stuff there are newer shinier ways of doing things. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 05 April 2011 14:45 To: xerte Subject: [Xerte] HTML font tag in Xerte Online Toolkits I've only just discovered that you can use the HTML font tag (with color, face and size attributes) in XOT text boxes. Forgive me if this is a daft question, but as the tag is deprecated in HTML, is it something that could cause problems in Xerte now or later? _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 14:54:53 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:54:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You should probably delete the one when you did full install, and set it up again using the xampp option, then when you navigate to localhost/xertetoolkits/ you'll drop straight in. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The thing is I don't mind if it is no authentication for now. What I am asking is why does it not allow me in directly to the workspace in this case? I mean if there is no authentication? Matthew mentioned something along those lines... Did I install it incorrectly? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 15:00:06 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:00:06 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <015c01cbf399$c6488b60$52d9a220$@tfsband.com> Will try that tomorrow... Thanks... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 03:55 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline You should probably delete the one when you did full install, and set it up again using the xampp option, then when you navigate to localhost/xertetoolkits/ you'll drop straight in. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The thing is I don't mind if it is no authentication for now. What I am asking is why does it not allow me in directly to the workspace in this case? I mean if there is no authentication? Matthew mentioned something along those lines... Did I install it incorrectly? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 15:04:25 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:04:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: It does not allow you directly into the workspace as it has no way of knowing this is what you want. We only support LDAP authentication, and as such only provide support for that during the install. There is support for authentication to services in the zip itself, but as we only have LDAP here, and we assume LDAP. So we can't know what people's intent is, and as they may install toolkits on a webserver, offering an unauthenticated option as default is incredibly dangerous. Taken from page 2 of the installer ---------------------------------- "Xerte Online Toolkits has been build around LDAP authentication - you can however not use this is you prefer." The PHP "LDAP" Settings - Please see PHP's own guide for more details. If you don't want to use LDAP you could write your own authentication code, or refer to the readme.txt in the main install folder on how to run an LDAP free version of the code. Taken from page 4 of the installer ---------------------------------- The PHP "LDAP" Settings - Please see PHP's own guide for more details. If you don't want to use LDAP you could write your own authentication code, or refer to the readme.txt in the main install folder on how to run an LDAP free version of the code. The test of this page would also return an error because it checks for LDAP functions The install guides have pages 13 and 14 cover the part of the process you are looking for Page 34 of the install guides (Titled "Authentication in Xerte Online Toolkits") covers other forms of authentication. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The thing is I don't mind if it is no authentication for now. What I am asking is why does it not allow me in directly to the workspace in this case? I mean if there is no authentication? Matthew mentioned something along those lines... Did I install it incorrectly? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 5 15:07:24 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:07:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Message-ID: Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 15:09:12 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:09:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 15:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 5 15:20:49 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:20:49 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <00b801cbf370$79d59bc0$6d80d340$@tfsband.com> <00d001cbf373$b76cf1b0$2646d510$@tfsband.com> <00e201cbf376$9200af40$b6020dc0$@tfsband.com> <010601cbf384$824eb520$86ec1f60$@tfsband.com> , <014201cbf390$8a5668b0$9f033a10$@tfsband.com> <015401cbf395$b509b4e0$1f1d1ea0$@tfsband.com> <015b01cbf397$f1cee330$d56ca990$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <016901cbf39c$ab26de10$01749a30$@tfsband.com> I did this and it works perfectly! Thanks so much... I am not installing it on a web server as yet - I just wanted to test it... I have it on my p.c. now and used XAMMP people install and am sorted... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 05 April 2011 03:55 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline You should probably delete the one when you did full install, and set it up again using the xampp option, then when you navigate to localhost/xertetoolkits/ you'll drop straight in. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:47 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The thing is I don't mind if it is no authentication for now. What I am asking is why does it not allow me in directly to the workspace in this case? I mean if there is no authentication? Matthew mentioned something along those lines... Did I install it incorrectly? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:35 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Because you might want to install authentication we don't support / you might want to set it later. Lots of reasons. The install guides have instructions in on how to use other authentication methods and are in the zip -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 14:31 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Ok... that is still fine then, how would I then use the system it still asks for a login and password? If there is no authentication why is there still the "option" to log in and which username password do I use then? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 03:07 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, If you've installed the beta then one of the test pages checks to see if you have ldap installed (as part of PHP). This will happen as a warning during the install, and is mentioned as a requirement on the second and fourth pages of the installer. If you opt for the xampp option during the install it will remove authentication from the system, and allow one individual to use the system. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover [g at tfsband.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi, I re-installed XAMPP and xertetoolkit Beta on my p.c. and I get the following error when attempting to log in: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ldap_connect() in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\website_code\php\login_library.php on line 355 Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:29 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Should work fine ? email back (the list) if not ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 12:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Thanks pat, I am in the process of downloading the beta version now? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 01:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Two Options These errors are stuff the new release will fix ? so as a short term measure. Edit config.php and put the line below before $xerte_toolkits_site ini_set("error_reporting",0); Or Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline The most recent one I can find is 1.7.4 and that?s the one I downloaded and installed? (as per the word doc in the zip folder from xertetoolkit download) Sorry I forgot to add the web path I used to download in the previous mail ? it is http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:30 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline And the most up to date xampp? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:28 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hi Pat, I downloaded the xerte toolkits v1.5 as a zipped file off the website. This is the web path I used? http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 11:14 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: Error on login to xerteonline Hello, Did you download the beta version, or the zip from the website? Thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 05 April 2011 10:04 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] FW: Error on login to xerteonline Importance: High Hi, I am trying to login to start using the authoring tool but the following error lists at the top of my web browser: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Notice: Undefined variable: form_string in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\index.php on line 39 [cid:image001.png at 01CBF3A1.4A8D75A0] After I use my username and password as allocated in mysql ? but the next screen is blank ? with the following errors: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\database.php on line 14 Appache and Mysql is running on the XAMMP control panel? Please assist? Regards, Grover Abrahams This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 15:50:09 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:50:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 15:51:21 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:51:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> Message-ID: The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 17:38:11 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:38:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> Message-ID: <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 17:41:43 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:41:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 18:03:10 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:03:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 18:04:51 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:04:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 18:17:01 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:17:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 18:18:08 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:18:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 5 18:49:52 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:49:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 5 21:18:32 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:18:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> Message-ID: Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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I would like to disable the next button when entering the last page of the framework. Patricia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 10:15:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:15:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework In-Reply-To: <2379903184CD4BE3BFF1ACF2BFEAFA12@Eway> References: <2379903184CD4BE3BFF1ACF2BFEAFA12@Eway> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61912E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> fwIcon.hideControls() ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 06 April 2011 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] disable buttons in default framework Hi, Is it possible to disable (or hide) the next and previous button in the default interface of a framework icon? I would like to disable the next button when entering the last page of the framework. Patricia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 10:27:36 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:27:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and Latex update Message-ID: A colleague has contacted me about LateX support in Xerte - I know there were some discussions a couple of years back in the Beta version of XOT. Is there an update on this? I know there's loads of stats resources I've seen from UoN but not sure if they are based on images only or 'Readable' images with Latex. A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? 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A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 10:46:20 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:46:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and Latex update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No pressure then.. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 06 April 2011 10:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and Latex update I'll see what I can get done tomorrow..... ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:27 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and Latex update A colleague has contacted me about LateX support in Xerte - I know there were some discussions a couple of years back in the Beta version of XOT. Is there an update on this? I know there's loads of stats resources I've seen from UoN but not sure if they are based on images only or 'Readable' images with Latex. A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 06 April 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and Latex update A colleague has contacted me about LateX support in Xerte - I know there were some discussions a couple of years back in the Beta version of XOT. Is there an update on this? I know there's loads of stats resources I've seen from UoN but not sure if they are based on images only or 'Readable' images with Latex. A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So it's not very important, but if there is a solution... on your mind ....!? =) Thank you a lot, Matthew From: Matthew Terentjev [mailto:matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:14 PM To: 'xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk' Subject: Copy to clipboard script. Dear all, I am just wondering if anyone had a script written for a button which on press will allow to copy text with the given ID into a clipboard? If someone has, I will be very grateful if you could share it.... Kindest Regards Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stepiko14 at inbox.lv Wed Apr 6 11:32:45 2011 From: stepiko14 at inbox.lv (Janis Ozols) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:32:45 +0300 Subject: [Xerte] Button - http link? Message-ID: <1302085965.4d9c414d2aad0@mail.inbox.lv> Hello! I am just wondering if Xerte Button can work as a http link to a web page? 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Regards Colin Loughlin ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: 06 April 2011 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: youtube embed fix >From the svn at code.google.com/p/xerte From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Loughlin, Colin Sent: 06 April 2011 11:33 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] youtube embed fix Hi - I've read in the lists about a fix for the youtube embed fix which mentions an .rlo file. Can someone tell me where I could get hold of that file? Thanks Colin Loughlin Academic Development Centre Kingston University c.loughlin at kingston.ac.uk +44 (0) 208 417 2764 This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 06 April 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and Latex update A colleague has contacted me about LateX support in Xerte ? I know there were some discussions a couple of years back in the Beta version of XOT. Is there an update on this? I know there?s loads of stats resources I?ve seen from UoN but not sure if they are based on images only or ?Readable? images with Latex. A Alistair McNaughtSenior Advisor JISC TechDisC/O The Higher Education Academy BuildingInnovation WayYork Science ParkYORKYO10 5BR 07870567659Skype: alistair_techdishttp://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for your help. It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data). > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Hello Xerte team, > > > > As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property > lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before > > > > In an xwd file I have the optional property > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added > and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined > to "" > > If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value > as "On page load". > > Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to > "pageLoad". > > > > The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is > to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" > and then to select "On page load" > > > > What am I missing here? > > What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it > receives the default value of "pageLoad"? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 6 15:35:58 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:35:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework In-Reply-To: <4D9C32B0.6000703@tor.nl> References: <2379903184CD4BE3BFF1ACF2BFEAFA12@Eway> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61912E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D9C32B0.6000703@tor.nl> Message-ID: If you are using Page Wizards or your own bespoke pages in the desktop version of Xerte then you may find the simpleNavigation.rlm model useful. You can download it from the Page Wizard page of the Xerte Wiki. This provides a set of navigation buttons that can be used as an alternative to the Xerte Navigation. Either for standard pages, or for pages contained within a framework. It includes a queue based back button that will enable the user to retrace their steps through a set of pages even when their selections have not followed the standard next page progression. Each of the buttons in the navigation can be turned on or off easily. Kind regards Johnathan On 6 April 2011 10:30, Tom Reijnders wrote: > That will hide all buttons... > > rootIcon.nextBtn._visible = false, will hide the next button. Probably > rootIcon.nextBtn._enable =false should disable it. > > However, from a template point of view (assuming you're still working with > templates) it takes some figuring out if you're on the last page or not. > > > > Op 6-4-2011 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: > > fwIcon.hideControls() > > > > ? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Patricia Heijmen > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 08:55 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] disable buttons in default framework > > > > Hi, > > > > Is it possible to disable (or hide) the next and previous button in the > default interface of a framework icon? > > I would like to disable the next button when entering the last page of the > framework. > > > > Patricia > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 16:13:55 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:13:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and Latex update In-Reply-To: References: , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D6191344@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915D4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Didn't we fix that? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 06 April 2011 12:47 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte and Latex update Reminded me of this one sent a while back, don't know if it went in the bugbase =============== If I try to use here is a bullet point It gets superceded by We use an external latex rendering service which we have been trying to implement in-house to robustify it. There are several services, so we ca always switch if one disappears, but ideally we'd have it running at notts. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 06 April 2011 10:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte and Latex update A colleague has contacted me about LateX support in Xerte - I know there were some discussions a couple of years back in the Beta version of XOT. Is there an update on this? I know there's loads of stats resources I've seen from UoN but not sure if they are based on images only or 'Readable' images with Latex. A Alistair McNaught Senior Advisor JISC TechDis C/O The Higher Education Academy Building Innovation Way York Science Park YORK YO10 5BR 07870567659 Skype: alistair_techdis http://www.jisctechdis.ac.uk Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development? See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice information and taster resource. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 16:21:04 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:21:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can do that, yes, if it doesn't already work? I know some controls take default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. //add optional properties addPropListener = new Object(); addPropListener.click = function(obj){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue != undefined){ tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; } else { tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" } tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); } addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Thanks for your help. It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 15:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patricia at e-w-i.nl Wed Apr 6 16:29:46 2011 From: patricia at e-w-i.nl (Patricia Heijmen) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:29:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework References: <2379903184CD4BE3BFF1ACF2BFEAFA12@Eway><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61912E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D9C32B0.6000703@tor.nl> Message-ID: <593D8715E75F4B9B88BE707BBF1948C2@Eway> Sounds good, I will try. Where can I find all these functions/variables? Patr. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Reijnders To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework That will hide all buttons... rootIcon.nextBtn._visible = false, will hide the next button. Probably rootIcon.nextBtn._enable =false should disable it. However, from a template point of view (assuming you're still working with templates) it takes some figuring out if you're on the last page or not. Op 6-4-2011 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: fwIcon.hideControls() ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 06 April 2011 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] disable buttons in default framework Hi, Is it possible to disable (or hide) the next and previous button in the default interface of a framework icon? I would like to disable the next button when entering the last page of the framework. Patricia This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Patr. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Reijnders To: Xerte discussion list Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework That will hide all buttons... rootIcon.nextBtn._visible = false, will hide the next button. Probably rootIcon.nextBtn._enable =false should disable it. However, from a template point of view (assuming you're still working with templates) it takes some figuring out if you're on the last page or not. Op 6-4-2011 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: fwIcon.hideControls() ? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patricia Heijmen Sent: 06 April 2011 08:55 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] disable buttons in default framework Hi, Is it possible to disable (or hide) the next and previous button in the default interface of a framework icon? I would like to disable the next button when entering the last page of the framework. 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I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for a null value. Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just kept the testing simpler. My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box specifying an optional property 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : property value = "" 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = "second option value" 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option selected : property value = "first option value" Kind regards Johnathan On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can do that, yes, if it doesn?t already work? I know some controls take > default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it > adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard > suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. > > > > //add optional properties > > addPropListener = new Object(); > > addPropListener.click = function(obj){ > > > > if > (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue > != undefined){ > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; > > } else { > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" > > } > > tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); > > } > > addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 15:29 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to > returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. > > > > Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I > guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the > xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part > of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a > combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd > file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the > first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data). > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Hello Xerte team, > > > > As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property > lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before > > > > In an xwd file I have the optional property > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added > and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined > to "" > > If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value > as "On page load". > > Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to > "pageLoad". > > > > The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is > to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" > and then to select "On page load" > > > > What am I missing here? > > What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it > receives the default value of "pageLoad"? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 19:24:06 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:24:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> I've managed to install it on SiteGround. (As with the previous version, the root and setup folders need 0755 permissions, contrary to the installation instructions.) With the exception of YouTube embedding, the few things I've tried so far work OK - including the QR Code, which should impress my boss. Is there anything you'd especially like us to test? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 6 20:50:20 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:50:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: General usage stuff, anything really. 755 or 777 are fine - we have to do 777 as we don't create our site with the main web user account. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne [simonbarne at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:24 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 I've managed to install it on SiteGround. (As with the previous version, the root and setup folders need 0755 permissions, contrary to the installation instructions.) With the exception of YouTube embedding, the few things I've tried so far work OK - including the QR Code, which should impress my boss. Is there anything you'd especially like us to test? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Apr 6 21:46:55 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework In-Reply-To: <593D8715E75F4B9B88BE707BBF1948C2@Eway> References: <2379903184CD4BE3BFF1ACF2BFEAFA12@Eway><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61912E3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D9C32B0.6000703@tor.nl> <593D8715E75F4B9B88BE707BBF1948C2@Eway> Message-ID: <4D9CD13F.9070801@tor.nl> See the help on rootIcon, there you see that you can also call rootIcon.hideNext() Another good way to inspect what items are exposed is calling inspect of an object in one of the scripts, for example inspect(rootIcon) It will show you all exposed items of the rootIcon object. And of course look at exmaples. I myself learned most by looking at the models in the Page Templates (or looking at how the Page Wizards worked) You can look at the the models by double clicking on the .rlm file, it will open the model in Xerte. Groetjes, Tom Op 6-4-2011 17:29, Patricia Heijmen schreef: > Sounds good, I will try. > Where can I find all these functions/variables? > Patr. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tom Reijnders > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:30 AM > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: disable buttons in default framework > > That will hide all buttons... > > rootIcon.nextBtn._visible = false, will hide the next button. > Probably rootIcon.nextBtn._enable =false should disable it. > > However, from a template point of view (assuming you're still > working with templates) it takes some figuring out if you're on > the last page or not. > > > > Op 6-4-2011 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef: >> >> fwIcon.hideControls() >> >> ? >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of >> *Patricia Heijmen >> *Sent:* 06 April 2011 08:55 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] disable buttons in default framework >> >> Hi, >> >> Is it possible to disable (or hide) the next and previous button >> in the default interface of a framework icon? >> >> I would like to disable the next button when entering the last >> page of the framework. >> >> Patricia >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Thu Apr 7 11:58:17 2011 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 10:58:17 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 7 11:59:53 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:59:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> , <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Martyn, Xerte online toolkits uses solely the template feature of Xerte 2 to allow users to create materials online easily (or hopefully easily). Developers can use Xerte 2 desktop to make new templates which can then be uploaded into XOT and used. XOT also could support other templates from outside Xerte, as it has a modular structure. Xerte 3 doesn't have any template functionality yet (it is still under development) but I think it remains a "developer tool". I'm never one to assume other people's abilities, but Nottingham have had a lot of academic use of the Online Toolkits, but also allowing people to use Xerte desktop if they feel confident in doing so. Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask further questions. Pat ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) [mlynch at glam.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:58 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Thu Apr 7 12:55:18 2011 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:55:18 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> , <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BAA5@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Thanks for the clarification. So going forward, if I want to start modifying and creating templates should I use Xerte 2.0 or 3.0? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 07 April 2011 12:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Hi Martyn, Xerte online toolkits uses solely the template feature of Xerte 2 to allow users to create materials online easily (or hopefully easily). Developers can use Xerte 2 desktop to make new templates which can then be uploaded into XOT and used. XOT also could support other templates from outside Xerte, as it has a modular structure. Xerte 3 doesn't have any template functionality yet (it is still under development) but I think it remains a "developer tool". I'm never one to assume other people's abilities, but Nottingham have had a lot of academic use of the Online Toolkits, but also allowing people to use Xerte desktop if they feel confident in doing so. Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask further questions. Pat ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) [mlynch at glam.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:58 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 7 13:45:09 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 13:45:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BAA5@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> , <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> , <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BAA5@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Xerte 2 for modifying existing templates, Xerte 3 will be separate and doesn't have templates at the moment (i think) ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) [mlynch at glam.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:55 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Thanks for the clarification. So going forward, if I want to start modifying and creating templates should I use Xerte 2.0 or 3.0? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 07 April 2011 12:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Hi Martyn, Xerte online toolkits uses solely the template feature of Xerte 2 to allow users to create materials online easily (or hopefully easily). Developers can use Xerte 2 desktop to make new templates which can then be uploaded into XOT and used. XOT also could support other templates from outside Xerte, as it has a modular structure. Xerte 3 doesn't have any template functionality yet (it is still under development) but I think it remains a "developer tool". I'm never one to assume other people's abilities, but Nottingham have had a lot of academic use of the Online Toolkits, but also allowing people to use Xerte desktop if they feel confident in doing so. Hope this helps. Please feel free to ask further questions. Pat ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) [mlynch at glam.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:58 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Apr 7 19:10:26 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:10:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Sorry I can't provide more helpful detail, but I have no idea what is going on. From andrew.molloy at acns-group.com Fri Apr 8 09:15:05 2011 From: andrew.molloy at acns-group.com (Andrew Molloy) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:15:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley In-Reply-To: <4D9EB817.8060704@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E94D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4D9EB817.8060704@tor.nl> Message-ID: <002a01cbf5c5$10ead920$32c08b60$@molloy@acns-group.com> Good luck Pat. J AC&S Ltd Creating Excellence Together Andrew Molloy Multimedia Developer AC&S LTD 37 Victoria Road East Thornton-Cleveleys Lancashire FY5 5BU UK andrew.molloy at acns-group.com www.acns-group.com tel: fax: mobile: +44 1253 855 997 (ext.108) +44 870 762 6818 +44 796 919 8220 From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 08 April 2011 08:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley Hi Pat, I really think you shouldn't make such a sacrifice to convince Oxford to use Xerte... ;-) I wish you all the best! Tom Op 8-4-2011 9:08, Julian Tenney schreef: Hi, It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught Sent: 08 April 2011 08:15 To: Xerte discussion list; A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits Subject: [Xerte] Pat Lockley's last day at Nottingham JISC TechDis would like to formally acknowledge that Pat Lockley Rocks . and wish him every success in his new life as a southerner. Alistair McNaught and the JISC TechDis team This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 25 March 2011 11:34 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Upload template to Xerte Toolkits Ehmm... see attached Op 25-3-2011 9:46, Tom Reijnders schreef: Julian, Patrick, I think I finally figured out how to import a template into Xerte Toolkits using the importer. There are (I think) two bugs in the import_template.php: Before line 318 (the loop that copies the models) there should be a line to set up the loop copy_loop($xerte_toolkits_site->import_path . $this_dir . "models"); And the lines that copy the template.rlt, the template.xwd and the template.xml should be before the loop that cleans up the import area..., so I moved them to line delete_loop($xerte_toolkits_site->import_path . $this_dir); (line 332 of the original file) Can you please verify? I included my version and a diff. Regards, Tom Op 24-3-2011 13:54, Tom Reijnders schreef: I still can't manage to upload a template to XOT. I retrived the Nottingham template to my local PC - renamed data.xwd and data.xml to template.* - edit the template in Xerte Standalone Now... how do I get this in a template package to be uploaded using the management.php I already figured out that I need to zip the folder above the files. So now I have: template\Example.rlt template\data.xwd template\data.xml template\common\* template\media\* template\models\* template\thumbs\* in a zip file, and the management.php says the structure is mad, but in XOT itself, I can't see the template (and yes, I renamed the template in the xml) Regards, Tom _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 8 09:54:39 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:54:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] XOT upgrade and moodle patch Message-ID: <004801cbf5ca$9a083860$ce18a920$@co.uk> Hi Pat sorry to pose various questions on your last day at Nottingham but this will obviously be of interest to others too... 1. I'm aware there are additions to the database in the xerte beta so the usual method of upgrading by simply updating the files and folders won't add anything to the database. Is there an upgrade process which does update the database or will just updating the files and folders suffice without breaking anything? 2. Are you aware that the current beta download contains additional templates in the parent_templates and templates folders which aren't accessible by the XOT workspace or management page but are in the folders? 3. Are there any key changes to the files duplicated in the moodle patch? e.g. session.php management.php index.php \website_code\php\scorm\export.php I can update the moodle patch but I'm wondering if moving session stuff to the database will have caused any problems with the moodle patch? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joanne.shirley at snc.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 10:44:43 2011 From: joanne.shirley at snc.ac.uk (Joanne Shirley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:44:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte background image In-Reply-To: <004801cbf5ca$9a083860$ce18a920$@co.uk> References: <004801cbf5ca$9a083860$ce18a920$@co.uk> Message-ID: <311ED7080A145C47A11D45765F1505F37996BD3EB0@wbmail-01.snc.ac.uk> When creating a LO I want to add our logo as a background image - what size/ ratio should the image be to it does not distort?? 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Dave From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:08:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] ANN: Pat Lockley Hi, It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. 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I forget what causes this... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 08 April 2011 09:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 I am now having problems (in Firefox 4, IE7 and IE9) with opening projects. In the My Projects window some projects are hidden until I click Sort - but then I can't select them. The editing window is usually blank and the properties window says " Sorry you do not have rights to this template". A few times I have had this message in the editing window: Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/scrapsof/public_html/xerte_beta/modules//edit.php' (include_path='.:/usr/local/php52/pear') in /home/scrapsof/public_html/xerte_beta/edit.php on line 218 (Something to do with the double slash?) The previous version on the same server is behaving normally. Sorry I can't provide more helpful detail, but I have no idea what is going on. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From asalem at wortech.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:32:23 2011 From: asalem at wortech.ac.uk (Adam Salem) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:32:23 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Best wishes in your new ventures Pat! Adam From: Dave Burnett > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:22:18 -0400 To: Xerte list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley I will miss out twisted banter Pat. :-) All the best! Dave ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:08:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] ANN: Pat Lockley Hi, It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Don't just standby, Switch Off! Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:38:15 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:38:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Pat Lockley In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E94D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E94D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: All, It's been fun (and if you're desperate for your last memory of me to be me naked with a kitten, then please follow Ron's link), and I am grateful to you all for making it so rewarding and helping move the project forward in so many new ways. If anyone ever doubts the benefits of open source I think this list provides evidence of a community that has grown to be much more than a "group of people". I've subscribed to the list from my personal email address so I will still be around to help people - but probably a little slower (but hey, there is no SLA), and I maybe slightly more angry with you if you insist on not reading the manual before emailing :) With thanks Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 08 April 2011 08:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] ANN: Pat Lockley Hi, It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:39:16 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:39:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. Don't just standby, Switch Off! Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:40:32 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:40:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: It might be your session has died? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 08 April 2011 09:14 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 I am now having problems (in Firefox 4, IE7 and IE9) with opening projects. In the My Projects window some projects are hidden until I click Sort - but then I can't select them. The editing window is usually blank and the properties window says " Sorry you do not have rights to this template". A few times I have had this message in the editing window: Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/scrapsof/public_html/xerte_beta/modules//edit.php' (include_path='.:/usr/local/php52/pear') in /home/scrapsof/public_html/xerte_beta/edit.php on line 218 (Something to do with the double slash?) The previous version on the same server is behaving normally. Sorry I can't provide more helpful detail, but I have no idea what is going on. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:40:02 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:40:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT upgrade and moodle patch In-Reply-To: <004801cbf5ca$9a083860$ce18a920$@co.uk> References: <004801cbf5ca$9a083860$ce18a920$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ron, I will send out some instructions later re this. Pat From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 09:55 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] XOT upgrade and moodle patch Hi Pat sorry to pose various questions on your last day at Nottingham but this will obviously be of interest to others too... 1. I'm aware there are additions to the database in the xerte beta so the usual method of upgrading by simply updating the files and folders won't add anything to the database. Is there an upgrade process which does update the database or will just updating the files and folders suffice without breaking anything? 2. Are you aware that the current beta download contains additional templates in the parent_templates and templates folders which aren't accessible by the XOT workspace or management page but are in the folders? 3. Are there any key changes to the files duplicated in the moodle patch? e.g. session.php management.php index.php \website_code\php\scorm\export.php I can update the moodle patch but I'm wondering if moving session stuff to the database will have caused any problems with the moodle patch? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Apr 8 11:56:17 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:56:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D9EE9D1.7090702@tor.nl> I think that even the latest version of the rlm, is not always working, depending on the checkboxes you choose when creating the embed code, i.e. if you change the defaults it doesn't always work, because it adds an optional parameter which confuses the code. But... this is by heart, and I didn't check the very latest .rlm Op 8-4-2011 12:31, Adam Salem schreef: > Hey guys, > > I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. > > I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. > > The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. > > Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > > Manu thanks > Adam > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From r.layden at bradfordcollege.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 12:00:36 2011 From: r.layden at bradfordcollege.ac.uk (Richard Layden) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:00:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT References: Message-ID: My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. Now here's the odd bit If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) Rich -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. Don't just standby, Switch Off! 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 11:46:46 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:46:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Import_template fix Message-ID: HI all, Tom's fix has been added to the SVN (so will be in the next zip). Tom I have added you in as an author for that code to acknowledge your work. Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 12:08:57 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:08:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat From asalem at wortech.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 12:27:13 2011 From: asalem at wortech.ac.uk (Adam Salem) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:27:13 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The plot thickens indeed... Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? Adam On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" wrote: >My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I >haven't had time to look into it in detail. > >We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and >the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes >in-house.. >The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks >ago. > >My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own >external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. > >If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers >it does not play. > >Now here's the odd bit > >If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server >to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. > >The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We >are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well > >I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at >it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see >that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) > >Rich > > >-----Original Message----- >From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick >Lockley >Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > >As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >- it might not let the video play. > >If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits >that'd be handy. > >Cheers > >-----Original Message----- >From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >To: Xerte discussion list >Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT > >Hey guys, > >I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with >Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still >having issues. > >I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the >latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the >svn today. > >The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on >isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the >video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same >video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. > >Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, >exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL >being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually >change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it >works. > >Any ideas what could be causing this? > >Manu thanks >Adam >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may >contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to >be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific >authorisation has been given by the sender. 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You are right Open Source is a great idea and Xerte in all its forms is a wonderful example of an Open Source project. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 April 2011 11:32, Adam Salem wrote: > Best wishes in your new ventures Pat! > > Adam > > From: Dave Burnett >> > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:22:18 -0400 > To: Xerte list xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley > > I will miss out twisted banter Pat. :-) > > All the best! > > Dave > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:08:41 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] ANN: Pat Lockley > > Hi, > > It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. > After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will > be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. > > Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, > developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a > unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the > software over the last few years. 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Pat has been very responsive to the >> community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - >> thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. >> >> Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, >> >> J >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > From reijnders at tor.nl Fri Apr 8 13:18:12 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> Just to confirm my previous remarks: Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux This one works: And this one does not: The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. Two solutions: 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. Hope this helps. Tom Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: > The plot thickens indeed... > > Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. > > So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... > > Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try > to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 > ?'s in it? > > Adam > > On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" > wrote: > > >> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I >> haven't had time to look into it in detail. >> >> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and >> the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes >> in-house.. >> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks >> ago. >> >> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own >> external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. >> >> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers >> it does not play. >> >> Now here's the odd bit >> >> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server >> to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. >> >> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We >> are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well >> >> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at >> it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see >> that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) >> >> Rich >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick >> Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >> - it might not let the video play. >> >> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits >> that'd be handy. >> >> Cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with >> Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still >> having issues. >> >> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the >> latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the >> svn today. >> >> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on >> isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the >> video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same >> video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. >> >> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, >> exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL >> being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually >> change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it >> works. >> >> Any ideas what could be causing this? >> >> Manu thanks >> Adam >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may >> contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to >> be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific >> authorisation has been given by the sender. 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I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: [cid:image002.png at 01CBF5F0.F903C0C0] Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From asalem at wortech.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 14:14:40 2011 From: asalem at wortech.ac.uk (Adam Salem) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:14:40 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> Message-ID: What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. Thanks Tom Adam From: Tom Reijnders > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT Just to confirm my previous remarks: Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux This one works: [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] And this one does not: [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. Two solutions: 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. Hope this helps. Tom Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: The plot thickens indeed... Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? Adam On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" wrote: My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. Now here's the odd bit If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) Rich -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? 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I don't see any option to change date_uploaded. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 15:18:52 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:18:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: Errrrr. Yes :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: [cid:image001.png at 01CBF600.4466C5D0] Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Don't see an option to change date_uploaded. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page If you click on reveal or show by the template name? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 14:05 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page Hi Pat sounds great but where do we see the option to change date_uploaded? Also I found and updated \website_code\scripts\management.js and \website_code\php\management\site.php and site_details_management.php Is that correct? I don't see any option to change date_uploaded. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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[cid:image001.jpg at 01CBF603.9D036010] -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page If you click on reveal or show by the template name? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 14:05 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page Hi Pat sounds great but where do we see the option to change date_uploaded? Also I found and updated \website_code\scripts\management.js and \website_code\php\management\site.php and site_details_management.php Is that correct? I don't see any option to change date_uploaded. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38371 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 8 15:48:02 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:48:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 41656 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 15:49:08 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:49:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <010b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: [cid:image001.png at 01CBF604.7F024B70] Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 41656 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 8 15:53:52 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:53:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page In-Reply-To: References: <00d201cbf5ed$8a4764a0$9ed62de0$@co.uk> <010501cbf5fb$0af1b440$20d51cc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012c01cbf5fc$c9096170$5b1c2450$@co.uk> now we're cooking - works great thanks. I'll do a screencast at some point about how the import, setting access and sorting works. I'll assume management.js was correct and needed unless you report back otherwise. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page Argh wrong files Templates and template_details_management Apols From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:41 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page Do you mean view? Don't see an option to change date_uploaded. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page If you click on reveal or show by the template name? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 14:05 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Date uploaded on Management page Hi Pat sounds great but where do we see the option to change date_uploaded? Also I found and updated \website_code\scripts\management.js and \website_code\php\management\site.php and site_details_management.php Is that correct? I don't see any option to change date_uploaded. Cheers Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 12:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Date uploaded on Management page Hi all, Three new changes in the SVN to allow for setting date_uploaded (changes the order templates display). Look for website_code/javascript/management.js website_code/php/management/site* Three files in all. Hope this helps Pat _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 8 16:24:15 2011 From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk (Patrick Lockley) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:24:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> Message-ID: Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: [cid:image001.png at 01CBF609.67431820] Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Apr 8 16:48:39 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:48:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> , <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> Message-ID: <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! What was the cause/solution? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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The new installer is hopefully relatively foolproof, and every question has helped with that On 8 Apr 2011, at 18:55, "KnowledgeWare" wrote: > Thanks for answering all my dumb questions Pat, good luck to you! > > RonM2 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. > > > > Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. > > > > Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, > > > > J > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Take care!! > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. >> >> >> >> Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. >> >> >> >> Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Draffan) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:14:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E94D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <015801cbf629$8280eb10$8782c130$@emptech.info> Pat have fun with your new job and as you are getting nearer to us in the south we hope to see you around! Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pete Pretorius Sent: 08 April 2011 20:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: ANN: Pat Lockley Best wishes, Pat. Take care!! On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: Hi, It's Pat's last day with Learning Technology team at Nottingham today. After four years or so, Pat has decided to move on to pastures new, and will be taking up a role at Oxford University's Computing Services next week. Pat, obviously, has played an instrumental role in the Xerte Project, developing Xerte Online Toolkits and the Xpert repository, and has brought a unique creative flair to the work which has been key to the success of the software over the last few years. Pat has been very responsive to the community, and many of you will have benefited from his support. Pat - thanks, it's been a real pleasure, and we will miss you. Please join me in wishing Pat every success in his new role, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Sat Apr 9 13:45:47 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:45:47 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> Message-ID: There was a stray whitespace character. The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. I will list the changes made later on. On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. > > Where else could it be? > > > > Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp > > and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if > > that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that > > error. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the > > ini_set at the top. > > > > The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the > > session_start in session.php and it should work fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below > > rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. > > > > I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with > > previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded > > the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer > > get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. > > > > Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's > > changed in the following files from the moodle patch? > > http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch > > session.php > > management.php > > index.php ( > > export.php > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 > > > > All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier > > > > Download the new version (beta) from > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip > > > > Please :) > > > > Pat Lockley > > IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus > > > > ext 68882 > > 0115 84 68882 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xt4mhz at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 16:31:11 2011 From: xt4mhz at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm9zw6kgR3JlZ29yaW8gRMOtYXogVW5kYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:31:11 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Tech VC Message-ID: <899405164-1302363072-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-439979984-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Hi people. Before anything, thanks to Pat doing this excelent contribution to the free software community. To promote new contributors to this project, I think american universities could be a great scenario to empowers xerte and xot projects. Is it possible to schedule a video conference via wiziq or evo2 to explain latin americans programmers and other groups how to start working as a developer for xerte project? I know there are docs about it but many of them are in english. We could do simultaneous translations to spanish in the videoconference and give a little push to our developers. What do you think? Jos? Gregorio. Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 11:00:08 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:00:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, even if you don't touch the drop down at all. No? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 17:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data)." I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for a null value. Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just kept the testing simpler. My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box specifying an optional property 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : property value = "" 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = "second option value" 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option selected : property value = "first option value" Kind regards Johnathan On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can do that, yes, if it doesn't already work? I know some controls take default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. //add optional properties addPropListener = new Object(); addPropListener.click = function(obj){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue != undefined){ tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; } else { tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" } tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); } addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Thanks for your help. It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 15:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 12:34:49 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:34:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 There was a stray whitespace character. The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. I will list the changes made later on. On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! What was the cause/solution? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 13:09:30 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the changes in moving session start into config will be the cause Pat On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. > > Where else could it be? > > > > Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp > > and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if > > that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that > > error. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the > > ini_set at the top. > > > > The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the > > session_start in session.php and it should work fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below > > rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. > > > > I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with > > previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded > > the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer > > get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. > > > > Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's > > changed in the following files from the moodle patch? > > http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch > > session.php > > management.php > > index.php ( > > export.php > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 > > > > All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier > > > > Download the new version (beta) from > > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip > > > > Please :) > > > > Pat Lockley > > IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus > > > > ext 68882 > > 0115 84 68882 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte mailing list > > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 13:11:40 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:11:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <8A09B37A-9972-4839-A65E-293BD4B08E60@googlemail.com> The session stuff is only moved into the database if you chose it to be, and for moodle should not be as the toolkit code piggybacks the moodle session On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. > > Where else could it be? > > > > Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp > > and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if > > that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that > > error. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the > > ini_set at the top. > > > > The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the > > session_start in session.php and it should work fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below > > rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. > > > > I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with > > previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded > > the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer > > get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. > > > > Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 13:42:06 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:42:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first get: Then if I click OK If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the changes in moving session start into config will be the cause Pat On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 There was a stray whitespace character. The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. I will list the changes made later on. On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! What was the cause/solution? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 15:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error can't be that - ini_set on line 23 is already commented. Where else could it be? Can't easily check the session error now because have already updated xampp and it was only happening with the previous xampp. But I do worry a bit if that means the latest toolkits also needs a xampp upgrade to avoid that error. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 14:36 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The first error is caused by a debug line in config.php - comment out the ini_set at the top. The session error comes from session.php (I think) - so comment out the session_start in session.php and it should work fine. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 13:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat attached is the latest errors I get using your download from the link below rather than the beta link Julian sent earlier. I tested first with my previous version of xampp which always worked with previous versions of XOT but now gives the session errors. I then upgraded the xampp to the latest version and installed and tested again. No longer get the session errors but do get the strict error - see doc. Once these errors are fixed I need to test with the moodle patch. What's changed in the following files from the moodle patch? http://tinyurl.com/moodlepatch session.php management.php index.php ( export.php HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 12:20 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Beta version 2 All reported fixes are in, and some changes to make some things prettier Download the new version (beta) from http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczpl/xerte/xertetoolkits.zip Please :) Pat Lockley IS Learning Technology, Kings Meadow Campus ext 68882 0115 84 68882 _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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I have a series of buttons which I would like to provide a visual focus for; I'm able to script a dropshadow effect for each button and stop it rendering more than once using a loop... but I can't seem to work out if/how to remove a drop shadow. There are some similar flash related questions I found via google but couldn't find an answer. Kind Regards, Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 11 15:10:31 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:10:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Given the xwd file content as If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback has a value of undefined If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has a value of "" Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by the user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually give narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select first the option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), then select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of "userRequest") If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter is optional this is not appropriate. I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" but this did not do anything. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the > property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, > even if you don?t touch the drop down at all. > > > > No? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 17:28 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data)." > > > > I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that > rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should > include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for > a null value. > > > > Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between > playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order > of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. > Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and > selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas > selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just > kept the testing simpler. > > > > My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box > specifying an optional property > > 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. > > 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : > property value = "" > > 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" > > 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = > "second option value" > > 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option > selected : property value = "first option value" > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can do that, yes, if it doesn?t already work? I know some controls take > default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it > adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard > suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. > > > > //add optional properties > > addPropListener = new Object(); > > addPropListener.click = function(obj){ > > > > if > (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue > != undefined){ > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; > > } else { > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" > > } > > tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); > > } > > addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 15:29 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to > returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. > > > > Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I > guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the > xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part > of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a > combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd > file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the > first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data). > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Hello Xerte team, > > > > As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property > lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before > > > > In an xwd file I have the optional property > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added > and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined > to "" > > If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value > as "On page load". > > Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to > "pageLoad". > > > > The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is > to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" > and then to select "On page load" > > > > What am I missing here? > > What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it > receives the default value of "pageLoad"? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 16:05:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Removing Drop shadows on the Fly In-Reply-To: <6CDCBD388966F740A611412F8B9405AF042DA31116@Alperton.xbwh.nhs.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <6CDCBD388966F740A611412F8B9405AF042DA31116@Alperton.xbwh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE413@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes it is, iconID.clearFilters(); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Rainger Sent: 11 April 2011 15:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Removing Drop shadows on the Fly Is is possible to remove a dropshadow through scripting once placed on button or image? I have a series of buttons which I would like to provide a visual focus for; I'm able to script a dropshadow effect for each button and stop it rendering more than once using a loop... but I can't seem to work out if/how to remove a drop shadow. There are some similar flash related questions I found via google but couldn't find an answer. Kind Regards, Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 16:03:07 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:03:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You need to add the default value to the value in options, not data. So in this case default="On user request" From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 April 2011 15:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Given the xwd file content as If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback has a value of undefined If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has a value of "" Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by the user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually give narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select first the option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), then select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of "userRequest") If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter is optional this is not appropriate. I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" but this did not do anything. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, even if you don't touch the drop down at all. No? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 17:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data)." I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for a null value. Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just kept the testing simpler. My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box specifying an optional property 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : property value = "" 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = "second option value" 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option selected : property value = "first option value" Kind regards Johnathan On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can do that, yes, if it doesn't already work? I know some controls take default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. //add optional properties addPropListener = new Object(); addPropListener.click = function(obj){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue != undefined){ tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; } else { tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" } tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); } addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Thanks for your help. It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 15:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 16:09:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Looks like it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 16:14:34 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:14:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> Message-ID: <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. *checks GPS* Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 16:28:14 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:28:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Tech VC In-Reply-To: <899405164-1302363072-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-439979984-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <899405164-1302363072-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-439979984-@bda2850.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Hello, I've never done any il8n stuff before, but happy to help out where I can. Pat 2011/4/9 Jos? Gregorio D?az Unda : > Hi people. > > Before anything, thanks to Pat doing this excelent contribution to the free software community. > > To promote new contributors to this project, I think american universities could be a great scenario to empowers xerte and xot projects. > > Is it possible to schedule a video conference via wiziq or evo2 to explain latin americans programmers and other groups how to start working as a developer for xerte project? > > I know there are docs about it but many of them are in english. > > We could do simultaneous translations to spanish in the videoconference and give a little push to our developers. > > What do you think? > > Jos? Gregorio. > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry? de Digitel. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 16:46:52 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:46:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. Thanks Tom Adam From: Tom Reijnders > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT Just to confirm my previous remarks: Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux This one works: [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] And this one does not: [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. Two solutions: 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. Hope this helps. Tom Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: The plot thickens indeed... Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? Adam On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" wrote: My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. Now here's the odd bit If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) Rich -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. Don't just standby, Switch Off! 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Don't just standby, Switch Off! Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 16:56:51 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:56:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere? Is the ID not always in the URL? So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs. (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot for my punt though). On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. > > I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. > > We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. > > Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. > > Thanks Tom > > Adam > > From: Tom Reijnders > > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > Just to confirm my previous remarks: > > Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux > > This one works: > > [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] > > > > And this one does not: > [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] > > The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. > > The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. > > Two solutions: > 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. > > > Hope this helps. > > Tom > > > Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: > > The plot thickens indeed... > > Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. > > So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... > > Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? > > Adam > > On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" > wrote: > > > > My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. > > We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. ?To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. > The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. > > My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. > > If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. > > Now here's the odd bit > > If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. > > The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. ?We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well > > I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) > > Rich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL > - it might not let the video play. > > If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. > > Cheers > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT > > Hey guys, > > I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. > > I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. > > The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. > > Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > > Manu thanks > Adam > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. > Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 16:59:17 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:59:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE480@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The format changes. So the rules change. So your previous assumptions on how to break up the url change. Do they serve tea and scones at 4.00? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 16:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere? Is the ID not always in the URL? So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs. (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot for my punt though). On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. > > I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. > > We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. > > Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. > > Thanks Tom > > Adam > > From: Tom Reijnders > > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > Just to confirm my previous remarks: > > Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux > > This one works: > > [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] > > > > And this one does not: > [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] > > The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. > > The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. > > Two solutions: > 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. > > > Hope this helps. > > Tom > > > Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: > > The plot thickens indeed... > > Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. > > So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... > > Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? > > Adam > > On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" > wrote: > > > > My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. > > We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. ?To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. > The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. > > My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. > > If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. > > Now here's the odd bit > > If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. > > The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. ?We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well > > I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) > > Rich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL > - it might not let the video play. > > If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. > > Cheers > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT > > Hey guys, > > I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. > > I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. > > The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. > > Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > > Manu thanks > Adam > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. > Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 17:05:42 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:05:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <010 b01cbf5fb$f83720f0$e8a562d0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> If I view the two alerts in fiddler the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ and for the second file_path=undefined *re invoicing* you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. *checks GPS* Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first get: Then if I click OK If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the changes in moving session start into config will be the cause Pat On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer works. :-( I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we can fix this. Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 There was a stray whitespace character. The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev site. Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some whitespace remover and ie is now fine. I will list the changes made later on. On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor pop-up on create in IE8 but... with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor pop up on create now works even in IE8! What was the cause/solution? Cheers Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and look for template_management.js From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll be a session problem somewhere. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so confused now :-( From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Errrrr. Yes J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I comment out the ini_set. At the bottom of config.php I have /*require_once("session_handler.php"); $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); session_set_save_handler( array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ session_start(); $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); } So isn't that already commented out? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Hi Pat it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an LO: Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the strict error regarding database.php: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. Does this help identify the cause/solution? HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get it to work for firefox in the early days ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and Firefox. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 why? Isn't that a .js issue? I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 So that's php dying - fiddler? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version 8.0.7600.16385 Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an error pop-up on create: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC Message: Invalid argument. Line: 1187 Char: 4 Code: 0 URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database abstraction too. I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF or IE or chrome here (ie7). -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 ah ok you meant un-comment? That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't exist or just isn't being reported? I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. -----Original Message----- F _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 17:06:11 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:06:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE480@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE480@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: But if the URL is a get array (i.e a series of & and =) then this can be jumbled into a store and the most ID like thing found (9 random letters and numbers?) Well the sun went in at 2, and sadly, this means the University sundial stops working, so it means we can go home. Will advise on vegan scone availability when I stay at work till 4. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > The format changes. So the rules change. So your previous assumptions on how to break up the url change. > > Do they serve tea and scones at 4.00? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:57 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere? > > Is the ID not always in the URL? > > So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs. > > (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to > myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot > for my punt though). > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. >> >> I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. >> >> We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. >> >> Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. >> >> Thanks Tom >> >> Adam >> >> From: Tom Reijnders > >> Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Just to confirm my previous remarks: >> >> Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux >> >> This one works: >> >> [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] >> >> >> >> And this one does not: >> [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] >> >> The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. >> >> The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. >> >> Two solutions: >> 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: >> >> The plot thickens indeed... >> >> Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. >> >> So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... >> >> Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? >> >> Adam >> >> On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" >> wrote: >> >> >> >> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. >> >> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. ?To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. >> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. >> >> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. >> >> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. >> >> Now here's the odd bit >> >> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. >> >> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. ?We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well >> >> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) >> >> Rich >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >> - it might not let the video play. >> >> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. >> >> Cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. >> >> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. >> >> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. >> >> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. >> >> Any ideas what could be causing this? >> >> Manu thanks >> Adam >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. >> >> Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >> >> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >> >> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 11 17:07:44 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:07:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE480@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE486@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Don't you have to turn out for a roast swan and a 500 year old bottle of port later on? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:06 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT But if the URL is a get array (i.e a series of & and =) then this can be jumbled into a store and the most ID like thing found (9 random letters and numbers?) Well the sun went in at 2, and sadly, this means the University sundial stops working, so it means we can go home. Will advise on vegan scone availability when I stay at work till 4. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > The format changes. So the rules change. So your previous assumptions on how to break up the url change. > > Do they serve tea and scones at 4.00? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:57 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere? > > Is the ID not always in the URL? > > So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs. > > (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to > myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot > for my punt though). > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. >> >> I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. >> >> We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. >> >> Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. >> >> Thanks Tom >> >> Adam >> >> From: Tom Reijnders > >> Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Just to confirm my previous remarks: >> >> Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux >> >> This one works: >> >> [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] >> >> >> >> And this one does not: >> [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] >> >> The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. >> >> The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. >> >> Two solutions: >> 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: >> >> The plot thickens indeed... >> >> Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. >> >> So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... >> >> Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? >> >> Adam >> >> On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" >> wrote: >> >> >> >> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. >> >> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. ?To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. >> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. >> >> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. >> >> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. >> >> Now here's the odd bit >> >> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. >> >> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. ?We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well >> >> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) >> >> Rich >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >> - it might not let the video play. >> >> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. >> >> Cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. >> >> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. >> >> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. >> >> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. >> >> Any ideas what could be causing this? >> >> Manu thanks >> Adam >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. >> >> Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >> >> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >> >> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 17:11:04 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:11:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE486@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE480@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE486@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: No such thing as vegan Swan yet - Cambridge are supposed to have developed it, but sadly they keep developing vegan turkeys (or boat race crews, as we Cherwellians call them). On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Don't you have to turn out for a roast swan and a 500 year old bottle of port later on? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:06 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > But if the URL is a get array (i.e a series of & and =) then this can > be jumbled into a store and the most ID like thing found (9 random > letters and numbers?) > > Well the sun went in at 2, and sadly, this means the University > sundial stops working, so it means we can go home. Will advise on > vegan scone availability when I stay at work till 4. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> The format changes. So the rules change. So your previous assumptions on how to break up the url change. >> >> Do they serve tea and scones at 4.00? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:57 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere? >> >> Is the ID not always in the URL? >> >> So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs. >> >> (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to >> myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot >> for my punt though). >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. >>> >>> I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. >>> >>> We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. >>> >>> Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >>> Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >>> >>> What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. >>> >>> Thanks Tom >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> From: Tom Reijnders > >>> Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >>> >>> Just to confirm my previous remarks: >>> >>> Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux >>> >>> This one works: >>> >>> [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] >>> >>> >>> >>> And this one does not: >>> [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] >>> >>> The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. >>> >>> The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. >>> >>> Two solutions: >>> 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: >>> >>> The plot thickens indeed... >>> >>> Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. >>> >>> So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... >>> >>> Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. >>> >>> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. ?To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. >>> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. >>> >>> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. >>> >>> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. >>> >>> Now here's the odd bit >>> >>> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. >>> >>> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. ?We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well >>> >>> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >>> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >>> >>> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >>> - it might not let the video play. >>> >>> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >>> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. >>> >>> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. >>> >>> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. >>> >>> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. >>> >>> Any ideas what could be causing this? >>> >>> Manu thanks >>> Adam >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. 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Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >>> >>> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >>> >>> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 17:12:57 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:12:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> Message-ID: i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for ?the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with ?//ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > ?????????????? $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > ?????????????? session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > ?????????????? session_start(); > > > > ?????????????? $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 18:02:56 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:02:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for ?the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with ?//ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > ?????????????? $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > ?????????????? session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > ?????????????? session_start(); > > > > ?????????????? $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 19:22:35 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:22:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> Message-ID: <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't reporting the same issue? I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the zip download. So... Is anyone else testing the beta? Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for ?the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with ?//ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > ?????????????? $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > ?????????????? session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > ?????????????? session_start(); > > > > ?????????????? $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 20:07:55 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:07:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> Message-ID: <447341AA-2D26-4774-B5EA-A5E1456571CB@googlemail.com> Not that I recall. I get the update message? Hmmmm. Link me? On 11 Apr 2011, at 19:22, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same > problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't > reporting the same issue? > > I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the > zip download. So... > > Is anyone else testing the beta? > Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? > > I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and > latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get > these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm > using demo.php for testing. > > Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is > reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an > online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than > a Windows box. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. > > If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid > then please invoice him. > > I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> If I view the two alerts in fiddler >> >> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php >> >> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php >> >> >> >> fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ >> >> and for the second file_path=undefined >> >> >> >> *re invoicing* >> >> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. >> >> >> >> *checks GPS* >> >> >> >> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems >> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with >> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. >> >> >> >> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported >> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click > publish, >> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first >> get: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then if I click OK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens > on >> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. >> >> >> >> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much > been >> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the >> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. >> >> >> >> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no > longer >> works. :-( >> >> >> >> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With > the >> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to > toolkits >> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE >> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the >> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more >> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like >> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until > we >> can fix this. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> There was a stray whitespace character. >> >> >> >> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev >> site. >> >> >> >> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some >> whitespace remover and ie is now fine. >> >> >> >> I will list the changes made later on. >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no > editor >> pop-up on create in IE8 but... >> >> >> >> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor >> pop up on create now works even in IE8! >> >> >> >> What was the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok, new files in the SVN ? make sure you?ve a session.php in the root and >> look for template_management.js >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use >> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test > the >> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> It?s the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it?ll >> be a session problem somewhere. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so >> confused now :-( >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Errrrr. Yes J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I >> comment out the ini_set. >> >> >> >> At the bottom of config.php I have >> >> >> >> /*require_once("session_handler.php"); >> >> >> >> >> >> $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); >> >> >> >> session_set_save_handler( >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ >> >> >> >> >> >> session_start(); >> >> >> >> $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> So isn't that already commented out? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file >> >> >> >> I bet it?s sessions ? so for now ? comment out the session code at the >> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused >> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and >> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the >> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same >> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting > an >> LO: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the >> strict error regarding database.php: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor > window >> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> >> >> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old >> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get >> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', > 0); >> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. >> >> >> >> Does this help identify the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the >> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to > get >> it to work for firefox in the early days >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and >> >> Firefox. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an > error >> >> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> why? Isn't that a .js issue? >> >> >> >> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? >> >> >> >> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So that's php dying - fiddler? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. >> >> >> >> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version >> >> 8.0.7600.16385 >> >> >> >> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got > an >> >> error pop-up on create: >> >> >> >> Webpage error details >> >> >> >> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR >> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) >> >> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Invalid argument. >> >> Line: 1187 >> >> Char: 4 >> >> Code: 0 >> >> URI: > http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language >> >> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. >> >> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). > When >> >> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database >> >> abstraction too. >> >> >> >> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF >> >> or IE or chrome here (ie7). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> ah ok you meant un-comment? >> >> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't >> >> exist or just isn't being reported? >> >> >> >> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create >> >> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still >> >> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot > template, >> >> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser > and >> >> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. >> >> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari > and >> >> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? >> >> >> >> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> F >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 11 22:42:01 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:42:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have tried both and The result is the same in both cases, the default is ignored. As described earlier. When the optional parameter is added it receives a value of "" . Selection of the first option leaves the value at "". Once any option other than the first option is selected the matching value in the data list is assigned. After that point selection of the first option results in the correct value for the first option being assigned. I have tested this with the page's xml file open in Flash Develop and watched the contents of the xml file change as the wizard is closed after each test action in the wizard. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 16:03, Julian Tenney wrote: > You need to add the default value to the value in options, not data. > > > > So in this case default=?On user request? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 11 April 2011 15:11 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Given the xwd file content as > > > > > > > > > > > > options="Small,Medium,Large,Full" width="100"/> > > > optional="true"/> > > > > > > > > If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback > has a value of undefined > > > > If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has > a value of "" > > > > Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by the > user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually give > narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select first the > option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), then > select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of > "userRequest") > > > > If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in > the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter > is optional this is not appropriate. > > > > I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" but > this did not do anything. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the > property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, > even if you don?t touch the drop down at all. > > > > No? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 17:28 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data)." > > > > I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that > rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should > include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for > a null value. > > > > Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between > playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order > of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. > Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and > selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas > selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just > kept the testing simpler. > > > > My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box > specifying an optional property > > 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. > > 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : > property value = "" > > 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" > > 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = > "second option value" > > 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option > selected : property value = "first option value" > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can do that, yes, if it doesn?t already work? I know some controls take > default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it > adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard > suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. > > > > //add optional properties > > addPropListener = new Object(); > > addPropListener.click = function(obj){ > > > > if > (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue > != undefined){ > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; > > } else { > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" > > } > > tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); > > } > > addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 15:29 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to > returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. > > > > Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I > guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the > xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part > of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a > combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd > file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the > first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data). > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Hello Xerte team, > > > > As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property > lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before > > > > In an xwd file I have the optional property > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added > and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined > to "" > > If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value > as "On page load". > > Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to > "pageLoad". > > > > The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is > to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" > and then to select "On page load" > > > > What am I missing here? > > What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it > receives the default value of "pageLoad"? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E955@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Apr 12 03:03:53 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 04:03:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4DA3B309.1060006@tor.nl> Yes, I was wondering about that... why you don't just ask for the video ID... It's fine by me, but then again, I know what to look for. So I am probably not the best guy to ask.... Op 11-4-2011 17:46, Julian Tenney schreef: > I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. > > I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. > > We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. > > Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. > > Thanks Tom > > Adam > > From: Tom Reijnders> > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list> > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 > To: Xerte discussion list> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > Just to confirm my previous remarks: > > Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux > > This one works: > > [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] > > > > And this one does not: > [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] > > The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. > > The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. > > Two solutions: > 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. > > > Hope this helps. > > Tom > > > Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: > > The plot thickens indeed... > > Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. > > So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... > > Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? > > Adam > > On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" > wrote: > > > > My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. > > We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. > The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. > > My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. > > If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. > > Now here's the odd bit > > If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. > > The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well > > I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) > > Rich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT > > As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL > - it might not let the video play. > > If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. > > Cheers > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem > Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT > > Hey guys, > > I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. > > I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. > > The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. > > Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > > Manu thanks > Adam > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. 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Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. > > Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. > > Don't just standby, Switch Off! > > Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Apr 12 06:13:09 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:13:09 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The text is displaying correctly until this line executes: words = mainText.breakApart(3,7,false, false); From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. ? I wouldn?t have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. ? I wouldn?t have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 12 06:57:54 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 06:57:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: <4DA3B309.1060006@tor.nl> References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE471@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4DA3B309.1060006@tor.nl> Message-ID: <8F64BAA7-B7FC-44AE-BEA5-B9EE7DAFCBA2@googlemail.com> Online tkits can take the Id, run a check, if it fails 'this is not the I'd you are looking for?' error message. Worth doing if only for that error message. On 12 Apr 2011, at 03:03, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, I was wondering about that... why you don't just ask for the video ID... > > It's fine by me, but then again, I know what to look for. So I am probably not the best guy to ask.... > > Op 11-4-2011 17:46, Julian Tenney schreef: >> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache. >> >> I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code. >> >> We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that. >> >> Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. >> >> Thanks Tom >> >> Adam >> >> From: Tom Reijnders> >> Reply-To: Xerte discussion list> >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 >> To: Xerte discussion list> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Just to confirm my previous remarks: >> >> Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux >> >> This one works: >> >> [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] >> >> >> >> And this one does not: >> [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] >> >> The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. >> >> The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. >> >> Two solutions: >> 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: >> >> The plot thickens indeed... >> >> Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. >> >> So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... >> >> Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? >> >> Adam >> >> On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" >> wrote: >> >> >> >> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. >> >> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. >> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. >> >> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. >> >> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. >> >> Now here's the odd bit >> >> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. >> >> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well >> >> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) >> >> Rich >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL >> - it might not let the video play. >> >> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. >> >> Cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem >> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. >> >> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. >> >> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. >> >> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. >> >> Any ideas what could be causing this? >> >> Manu thanks >> Adam >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. >> >> Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. >> Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >> >> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >> >> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. >> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. >> >> Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >> >> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >> >> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.ukhttp://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachmentmay still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. >> >> Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. >> >> Don't just standby, Switch Off! >> >> Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From aread at marjon.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 09:16:52 2011 From: aread at marjon.ac.uk (Adam Read) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:16:52 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] SCORM & Moodle (again?) Message-ID: Hi all I've just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I've enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I've added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I've also renamed "APIWrapper.js" to "apiwrapper.js" as mentioned in a previous post. I've uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 12 09:27:44 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:27:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Download the adl test suite? On 12 Apr 2011, at 09:16, Adam Read wrote: > Hi all > > > > I?ve just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I?ve enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. > > > > I?ve added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I?ve also renamed ?APIWrapper.js? to ?apiwrapper.js? as mentioned in a previous post. > > > > I?ve uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip > > > > Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. > > > > Thanks, Adam > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Adam Read > e-Learning Technologist > Learning and Quality Unit > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John > > > > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 09:52:57 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:52:57 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 12 09:58:31 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:58:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E955@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E955@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Taking the spaces out of the combo box options makes no difference. The data values already contain no spaces in my example. I will be unavailable to reply to further emails for a few hours, but will check in again later today. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 23:08, Julian Tenney wrote: > out of interest, does it work if there are no spaces in the values? > > I'll have a look as well. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > *Sent:* 11 April 2011 22:42 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > I have tried both > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > and > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > The result is the same in both cases, the default is ignored. As > described earlier. When the optional parameter is added it receives a value > of "" . Selection of the first option leaves the value at "". Once any > option other than the first option is selected the matching value in the > data list is assigned. After that point selection of the first option > results in the correct value for the first option being assigned. > > I have tested this with the page's xml file open in Flash Develop and > watched the contents of the xml file change as the wizard is closed after > each test action in the wizard. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 11 April 2011 16:03, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> You need to add the default value to the value in options, not data. >> >> >> >> So in this case default=?On user request? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 11 April 2011 15:11 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? >> >> >> >> Given the xwd file content as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > options="Small,Medium,Large,Full" width="100"/> >> >> >> > optional="true"/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback >> has a value of undefined >> >> >> >> If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has >> a value of "" >> >> >> >> Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by >> the user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually >> give narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select >> first the option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), >> then select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of >> "userRequest") >> >> >> >> If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in >> the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter >> is optional this is not appropriate. >> >> >> >> I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" >> but this did not do anything. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the >> property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, >> even if you don?t touch the drop down at all. >> >> >> >> No? >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 06 April 2011 17:28 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? >> >> >> >> "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad >> (the data)." >> >> >> >> I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was >> that rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should >> include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for >> a null value. >> >> >> >> Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between >> playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order >> of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. >> Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and >> selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas >> selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just >> kept the testing simpler. >> >> >> >> My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box >> specifying an optional property >> >> 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. >> >> 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value >> : property value = "" >> >> 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" >> >> 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = >> "second option value" >> >> 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option >> selected : property value = "first option value" >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Can do that, yes, if it doesn?t already work? I know some controls take >> default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it >> adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard >> suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. >> >> >> >> //add optional properties >> >> addPropListener = new Object(); >> >> addPropListener.click = function(obj){ >> >> >> >> if >> (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue >> != undefined){ >> >> tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = >> wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; >> >> } else { >> >> tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = >> "" >> >> } >> >> tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); >> >> } >> >> addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 06 April 2011 15:29 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to >> returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. >> >> >> >> Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I >> guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the >> xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part >> of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a >> combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd >> file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the >> first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad >> (the data). >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? >> >> >> >> Hello Xerte team, >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property >> lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before >> >> >> >> In an xwd file I have the optional property >> >> >> >> > width="150" optional="true"/> >> >> When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added >> and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined >> to "" >> >> If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value >> as "On page load". >> >> Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to >> "pageLoad". >> >> >> >> The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is >> to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" >> and then to select "On page load" >> >> >> >> What am I missing here? >> >> What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it >> receives the default value of "pageLoad"? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:03:38 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:03:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E955@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's defaultValue="value" not default="value" Sorry. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 12 April 2011 09:59 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Taking the spaces out of the combo box options makes no difference. The data values already contain no spaces in my example. I will be unavailable to reply to further emails for a few hours, but will check in again later today. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 23:08, Julian Tenney > wrote: out of interest, does it work if there are no spaces in the values? I'll have a look as well. ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 11 April 2011 22:42 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? I have tried both and The result is the same in both cases, the default is ignored. As described earlier. When the optional parameter is added it receives a value of "" . Selection of the first option leaves the value at "". Once any option other than the first option is selected the matching value in the data list is assigned. After that point selection of the first option results in the correct value for the first option being assigned. I have tested this with the page's xml file open in Flash Develop and watched the contents of the xml file change as the wizard is closed after each test action in the wizard. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 16:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: You need to add the default value to the value in options, not data. So in this case default="On user request" From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 11 April 2011 15:11 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Given the xwd file content as If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback has a value of undefined If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has a value of "" Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by the user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually give narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select first the option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), then select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of "userRequest") If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter is optional this is not appropriate. I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" but this did not do anything. Kind regards Johnathan On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, even if you don't touch the drop down at all. No? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 17:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data)." I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for a null value. Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just kept the testing simpler. My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box specifying an optional property 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : property value = "" 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = "second option value" 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option selected : property value = "first option value" Kind regards Johnathan On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: Can do that, yes, if it doesn't already work? I know some controls take default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. //add optional properties addPropListener = new Object(); addPropListener.click = function(obj){ if (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue != undefined){ tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; } else { tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" } tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); } addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 06 April 2011 15:29 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Thanks for your help. It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad (the data). From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2011 15:07 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? Hello Xerte team, As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before In an xwd file I have the optional property When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined to "" If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value as "On page load". Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to "pageLoad". The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" and then to select "On page load" What am I missing here? What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it receives the default value of "pageLoad"? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... [cid:image001.png at 01CBF8F9.0432BBD0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:05:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, run it in the test suite. That?s the definitive ?yes, this scorm package works fine? test. This keeps cropping up: be good to identify why it keeps rearing its head. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 12 April 2011 09:28 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) Download the adl test suite? On 12 Apr 2011, at 09:16, Adam Read > wrote: Hi all I?ve just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I?ve enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I?ve added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I?ve also renamed ?APIWrapper.js? to ?apiwrapper.js? as mentioned in a previous post. I?ve uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Hi all I've just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I've enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I've added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I've also renamed "APIWrapper.js" to "apiwrapper.js" as mentioned in a previous post. I've uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: has the file actually uploaded? If you go properties / media and quota - does it appear? On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Julian Tenney < Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Grover > *Sent:* 12 April 2011 09:53 > > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can > preview it. > > > > Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online > and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can > comment on? > > > > *From:* Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] > *Sent:* 12 April 2011 10:19 AM > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Cc:* g at tfsband.com > *Subject:* Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. > > > > Hi there, > > > > I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the > tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this > error? Even when I try to import a background? > > > > Please assist? > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Cheers From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 10:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) Downloaded your zip, imported into my moodle, took the quiz and scored 100% ;-) [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBF8FA.8761FF10] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 12 April 2011 09:17 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] SCORM & Moodle (again?) Hi all I've just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I've enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I've added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I've also renamed "APIWrapper.js" to "apiwrapper.js" as mentioned in a previous post. I've uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Adam Read wrote: > That?s encouraging ? thanks Ron. > > > > Must be something to do with our Moodle setup ? will investigate. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell > *Sent:* 12 April 2011 10:06 > *To:* 'Xerte discussion list' > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) > > > > Downloaded your zip, imported into my moodle, took the quiz and scored 100% > ;-) > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read > *Sent:* 12 April 2011 09:17 > *To:* Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) > *Subject:* [Xerte] SCORM & Moodle (again?) > > > > Hi all > > > > I?ve just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a > title page, quiz and then final text page. I?ve enabled scorm tracking on > the quiz. > > > > I?ve added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student > account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I?ve also > renamed ?APIWrapper.js? to ?apiwrapper.js? as mentioned in a previous post. > > > > I?ve uploaded my scorm zip here: > http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip > > > > Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? > That way I can rule out Xerte. > > > > Thanks, Adam > > --------------------------------------------------- > > *Adam Read > * e-Learning Technologist > Learning and Quality Unit > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John > > > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH > > Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk > > Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 > > University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee > > of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 15225 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:17:04 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:17:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) In-Reply-To: References: <003401cbf8f0$dcae96e0$960bc4a0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE616@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Run it in the test suite anyway: it's illuminating for exactly what's going on with the scorm instantiation and subsequent data exchange. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 12 April 2011 10:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) That's encouraging - thanks Ron. Must be something to do with our Moodle setup - will investigate. Cheers From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 10:06 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: SCORM & Moodle (again?) Downloaded your zip, imported into my moodle, took the quiz and scored 100% ;-) [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBF8FA.C535F030] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 12 April 2011 09:17 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] SCORM & Moodle (again?) Hi all I've just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I've enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I've added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I've also renamed "APIWrapper.js" to "apiwrapper.js" as mentioned in a previous post. I've uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------------------------- Adam Read e-Learning Technologist Learning and Quality Unit University College Plymouth St Mark & St John University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840 University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Downloaded your zip, imported into my moodle, took the quiz and scored 100% ;-) [cid:image001.jpg at 01CBF8FB.05A8A810] From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read Sent: 12 April 2011 09:17 To: Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk) Subject: [Xerte] SCORM & Moodle (again?) Hi all I've just creating a basic learning object using XOT that consists of a title page, quiz and then final text page. I've enabled scorm tracking on the quiz. I've added it to a Moodle course and attempted it using a dummy student account. No details of the LO are tracked in the Moodle gradebook. I've also renamed "APIWrapper.js" to "apiwrapper.js" as mentioned in a previous post. I've uploaded my scorm zip here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/scorm_quiz.zip Is anyone with Moodle able to test it to see if tracking works for them? That way I can rule out Xerte. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 15225 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:18:17 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:18:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that aren't in the zip file. Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the hidden .svn stuff. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't reporting the same issue? I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the zip download. So... Is anyone else testing the beta? Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:14:51 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:14:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE612@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It splits on spaces. So you might get this but not this From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 06:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Replacing the line breaks with
doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. - I wouldn't have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 12 10:49:54 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:49:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so I'll summarise what I've found so far: 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict standards error 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to be commented e.g. //session_start(); 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more testing and report back if I find anything. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that aren't in the zip file. Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the hidden .svn stuff. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't reporting the same issue? I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the zip download. So... Is anyone else testing the beta? Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 12 10:53:01 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:53:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: File paths maybe? See if the installer is putting the right file paths in (this has been windows proofed i hope) On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. > This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so > I'll summarise what I've found so far: > > 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line > 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is > supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict > standards error > > 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to > be commented e.g. //session_start(); > > 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and > closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to > close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are > showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't > getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on > my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well > as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new > localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more > testing and report back if I find anything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that > aren't in the zip file. > > Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the > hidden .svn stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same > problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't > reporting the same issue? > > I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the > zip download. So... > > Is anyone else testing the beta? > Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? > > I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and > latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get > these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm > using demo.php for testing. > > Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is > reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an > online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than > a Windows box. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. > > If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid > then please invoice him. > > I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> If I view the two alerts in fiddler >> >> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php >> >> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php >> >> >> >> fiddler text view for ?the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ >> >> and for the second file_path=undefined >> >> >> >> *re invoicing* >> >> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. >> >> >> >> *checks GPS* >> >> >> >> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems >> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with >> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. >> >> >> >> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported >> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click > publish, >> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first >> get: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then if I click OK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens > on >> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. >> >> >> >> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much > been >> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the >> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. >> >> >> >> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no > longer >> works. :-( >> >> >> >> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With > the >> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to > toolkits >> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE >> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the >> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more >> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like >> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until > we >> can fix this. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> There was a stray whitespace character. >> >> >> >> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev >> site. >> >> >> >> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some >> whitespace remover and ie is now fine. >> >> >> >> I will list the changes made later on. >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> with ?//ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no > editor >> pop-up on create in IE8 but... >> >> >> >> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor >> pop up on create now works even in IE8! >> >> >> >> What was the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and >> look for template_management.js >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use >> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test > the >> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll >> be a session problem somewhere. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so >> confused now :-( >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Errrrr. Yes J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I >> comment out the ini_set. >> >> >> >> At the bottom of config.php I have >> >> >> >> /*require_once("session_handler.php"); >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?session_set_save_handler( >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?session_start(); >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> So isn't that already commented out? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file >> >> >> >> I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the >> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused >> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and >> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the >> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same >> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting > an >> LO: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the >> strict error regarding database.php: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor > window >> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> >> >> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old >> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get >> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', > 0); >> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. >> >> >> >> Does this help identify the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the >> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to > get >> it to work for firefox in the early days >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and >> >> Firefox. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an > error >> >> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> why? Isn't that a .js issue? >> >> >> >> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? >> >> >> >> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So that's php dying - fiddler? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. >> >> >> >> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version >> >> 8.0.7600.16385 >> >> >> >> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got > an >> >> error pop-up on create: >> >> >> >> Webpage error details >> >> >> >> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR >> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) >> >> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Invalid argument. >> >> Line: 1187 >> >> Char: 4 >> >> Code: 0 >> >> URI: > http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language >> >> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. >> >> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). > When >> >> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database >> >> abstraction too. >> >> >> >> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF >> >> or IE or chrome here (ie7). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> ah ok you meant un-comment? >> >> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't >> >> exist or just isn't being reported? >> >> >> >> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create >> >> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still >> >> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot > template, >> >> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser > and >> >> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. >> >> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari > and >> >> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? >> >> >> >> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> F >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 10:57:23 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:57:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE66B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Xerte 3.0 is a Flex compiler, using the Flex SDK. It's a developer focused tool. Users will create Flash applications from the ground up, with a rich set of components, can extend it with their own components easily and will be coders, possibly with a grasp of OOP. It aims to make it easier to get into Flex development for coders without the more hardcode OOP skills, and will probably act as a gateway for some developers between other tools and IDEs like FlashDevelop or FlashBuilder. The code is ActionScript 3.0, so skills have a lot of currency: developers familiar with Flash / AS3 Flex can pick it up right away. There are a ton of resources already out there to help, and the code you write can be edited / compiled in other IDEs. Flex 4.5 will be released soon, with options for mobile application development for Android and iOS, so Xerte 3.0 will be able to create iPhone apps. Xerte Online Toolkits is aimed at non-techies, teachers, educators, etc. It doesn't rely on any technical skills. Content is developed by filling in forms and uploading media. A wide range of 'page types' are available with support for all sorts of different interactivity, media, third party services, etc. Developer can extend it's functionality by creating new templates, or by including flash movies in the piece. The two tools are not compatible, although a toolkits piece could link to and open a window containing xerte 3.0 flash movie, with, say, a 3D model in it, so the two can work together to an extent. Does that help? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 07 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 11:08:25 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:08:25 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 11:03:48 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE676@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 1 will be the way we ship it to suppress those errors. Folk can turn it on if they like. 2. instructions need to be included in the moodle patch docs. 3. I'll check that as well. Now we are all more dispersed, we ought to use a bug / issue tracker? Worried things will get missed, however we ought to have a developer in place later this year. Maybe we need a xerte_developers list? Not everyone wants / needs to read all this. Would like to introduce a quarterly update cycle as briefly discussed, with phases for wish list, prioritisation, development, testing and delivery. We need some online tools we can all write to to support that - any suggestions or thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so I'll summarise what I've found so far: 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict standards error 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to be commented e.g. //session_start(); 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more testing and report back if I find anything. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that aren't in the zip file. Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the hidden .svn stuff. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't reporting the same issue? I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the zip download. So... Is anyone else testing the beta? Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 12 11:15:26 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:15:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE676@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE676@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: bug tracking via the google repo? Happy to do that. Xerte dev isn't really install issues? Maybe a forum? But agree a more techie list would help. Pat On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > 1 will be the way we ship it to suppress those errors. Folk can turn it on if they like. > 2. instructions need to be included in the moodle patch docs. > 3. I'll check that as well. > > Now we are all more dispersed, we ought to use a bug / issue tracker? Worried things will get missed, however we ought to have a developer in place later this year. > > Maybe we need a xerte_developers list? Not everyone wants / needs to read all this. > > Would like to introduce a quarterly update cycle as briefly discussed, with phases for wish list, prioritisation, development, testing and delivery. We need some online tools we can all write to to support that - any suggestions or thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. > This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so > I'll summarise what I've found so far: > > 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line > 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is > supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict > standards error > > 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to > be commented e.g. //session_start(); > > 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and > closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to > close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are > showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't > getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on > my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well > as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new > localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more > testing and report back if I find anything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that > aren't in the zip file. > > Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the > hidden .svn stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same > problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't > reporting the same issue? > > I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the > zip download. So... > > Is anyone else testing the beta? > Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? > > I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and > latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get > these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm > using demo.php for testing. > > Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is > reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an > online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than > a Windows box. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. > > If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid > then please invoice him. > > I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> If I view the two alerts in fiddler >> >> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php >> >> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php >> >> >> >> fiddler text view for ?the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ >> >> and for the second file_path=undefined >> >> >> >> *re invoicing* >> >> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. >> >> >> >> *checks GPS* >> >> >> >> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems >> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with >> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. >> >> >> >> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported >> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click > publish, >> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first >> get: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then if I click OK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens > on >> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. >> >> >> >> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much > been >> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the >> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. >> >> >> >> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no > longer >> works. :-( >> >> >> >> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With > the >> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to > toolkits >> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE >> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the >> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more >> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like >> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until > we >> can fix this. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> There was a stray whitespace character. >> >> >> >> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev >> site. >> >> >> >> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some >> whitespace remover and ie is now fine. >> >> >> >> I will list the changes made later on. >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> with ?//ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no > editor >> pop-up on create in IE8 but... >> >> >> >> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor >> pop up on create now works even in IE8! >> >> >> >> What was the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and >> look for template_management.js >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use >> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test > the >> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll >> be a session problem somewhere. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so >> confused now :-( >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Errrrr. Yes J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I >> comment out the ini_set. >> >> >> >> At the bottom of config.php I have >> >> >> >> /*require_once("session_handler.php"); >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?session_set_save_handler( >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?session_start(); >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> So isn't that already commented out? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file >> >> >> >> I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the >> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused >> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and >> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the >> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same >> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting > an >> LO: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the >> strict error regarding database.php: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor > window >> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> >> >> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old >> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get >> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', > 0); >> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. >> >> >> >> Does this help identify the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the >> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to > get >> it to work for firefox in the early days >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and >> >> Firefox. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an > error >> >> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> why? Isn't that a .js issue? >> >> >> >> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? >> >> >> >> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So that's php dying - fiddler? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. >> >> >> >> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version >> >> 8.0.7600.16385 >> >> >> >> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got > an >> >> error pop-up on create: >> >> >> >> Webpage error details >> >> >> >> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR >> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) >> >> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Invalid argument. >> >> Line: 1187 >> >> Char: 4 >> >> Code: 0 >> >> URI: > http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language >> >> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. >> >> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). > When >> >> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database >> >> abstraction too. >> >> >> >> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF >> >> or IE or chrome here (ie7). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> ah ok you meant un-comment? >> >> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't >> >> exist or just isn't being reported? >> >> >> >> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create >> >> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still >> >> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot > template, >> >> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser > and >> >> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. >> >> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari > and >> >> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? >> >> >> >> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> F >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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I think I will add an optional property 'youtubeID' that if present, trumps the embed code and allows you to specify just the ID if you want to. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. Thanks Tom Adam From: Tom Reijnders > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT Just to confirm my previous remarks: Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux This one works: [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] And this one does not: [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. Two solutions: 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. Hope this helps. Tom Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: The plot thickens indeed... Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? Adam On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" wrote: My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. Now here's the odd bit If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) Rich -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. Don't just standby, Switch Off! 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Don't just standby, Switch Off! Worcester College of Technology EcoCampus Group. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 11:08:20 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:08:20 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT In-Reply-To: References: <4D9EFD04.2070407@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE681@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Duh. Attached this time. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL. Thanks Tom Adam From: Tom Reijnders > Reply-To: Xerte discussion list > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200 To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT Just to confirm my previous remarks: Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux This one works: [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl] And this one does not: [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl] The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url. The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark. Two solutions: 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct. Hope this helps. Tom Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef: The plot thickens indeed... Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5. So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here... Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it? Adam On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" wrote: My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail. We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show. To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house.. The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago. My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play. If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play. Now here's the odd bit If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server. The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux. We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look) Rich -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL - it might not let the video play. If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT Hey guys, I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues. I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today. The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT. Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works. Any ideas what could be causing this? Manu thanks Adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain confidential or sensitive information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee unless specific authorisation has been given by the sender. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise us of any errors in transmission. Thank you. Save paper, only print this email if really necessary and think green. Please turn off PC's and lights when not in use. Don't just standby, Switch Off! 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:14:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy It splits on spaces. So you might get this but not this From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 06:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Replacing the line breaks with
doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingyLooks like it. Have no idea why. ? I wouldn?t have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 11:43 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy No
________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:14:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy It splits on spaces. So you might get this but not this From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 06:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Replacing the line breaks with
doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. - I wouldn't have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 12 12:20:45 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:20:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 12:24:08 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:24:08 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> Message-ID: <009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com> The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 12:35:30 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:35:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE676@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE746@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I give up. How do you change the status of an issue on the google code page? I've been here before and given up, which is why all the issues are marked as new. How do you mark them as resolved? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 12 April 2011 11:15 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 bug tracking via the google repo? Happy to do that. Xerte dev isn't really install issues? Maybe a forum? But agree a more techie list would help. Pat On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > 1 will be the way we ship it to suppress those errors. Folk can turn it on if they like. > 2. instructions need to be included in the moodle patch docs. > 3. I'll check that as well. > > Now we are all more dispersed, we ought to use a bug / issue tracker? Worried things will get missed, however we ought to have a developer in place later this year. > > Maybe we need a xerte_developers list? Not everyone wants / needs to read all this. > > Would like to introduce a quarterly update cycle as briefly discussed, with phases for wish list, prioritisation, development, testing and delivery. We need some online tools we can all write to to support that - any suggestions or thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. > This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so > I'll summarise what I've found so far: > > 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line > 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is > supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict > standards error > > 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to > be commented e.g. //session_start(); > > 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and > closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to > close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are > showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't > getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on > my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well > as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new > localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more > testing and report back if I find anything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that > aren't in the zip file. > > Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the > hidden .svn stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same > problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't > reporting the same issue? > > I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the > zip download. So... > > Is anyone else testing the beta? > Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? > > I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and > latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get > these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm > using demo.php for testing. > > Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is > reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an > online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than > a Windows box. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. > > If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid > then please invoice him. > > I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> If I view the two alerts in fiddler >> >> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php >> >> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php >> >> >> >> fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ >> >> and for the second file_path=undefined >> >> >> >> *re invoicing* >> >> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. >> >> >> >> *checks GPS* >> >> >> >> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems >> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with >> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. >> >> >> >> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported >> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click > publish, >> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first >> get: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then if I click OK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens > on >> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. >> >> >> >> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much > been >> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the >> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. >> >> >> >> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no > longer >> works. :-( >> >> >> >> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With > the >> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to > toolkits >> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE >> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the >> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more >> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like >> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until > we >> can fix this. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> There was a stray whitespace character. >> >> >> >> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev >> site. >> >> >> >> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some >> whitespace remover and ie is now fine. >> >> >> >> I will list the changes made later on. >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no > editor >> pop-up on create in IE8 but... >> >> >> >> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor >> pop up on create now works even in IE8! >> >> >> >> What was the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and >> look for template_management.js >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use >> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test > the >> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll >> be a session problem somewhere. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so >> confused now :-( >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Errrrr. Yes J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I >> comment out the ini_set. >> >> >> >> At the bottom of config.php I have >> >> >> >> /*require_once("session_handler.php"); >> >> >> >> >> >> $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); >> >> >> >> session_set_save_handler( >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ >> >> >> >> >> >> session_start(); >> >> >> >> $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> So isn't that already commented out? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file >> >> >> >> I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the >> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused >> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and >> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the >> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same >> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting > an >> LO: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the >> strict error regarding database.php: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor > window >> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> >> >> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old >> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get >> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', > 0); >> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. >> >> >> >> Does this help identify the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the >> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to > get >> it to work for firefox in the early days >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and >> >> Firefox. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an > error >> >> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> why? Isn't that a .js issue? >> >> >> >> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? >> >> >> >> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So that's php dying - fiddler? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. >> >> >> >> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version >> >> 8.0.7600.16385 >> >> >> >> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got > an >> >> error pop-up on create: >> >> >> >> Webpage error details >> >> >> >> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR >> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) >> >> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Invalid argument. >> >> Line: 1187 >> >> Char: 4 >> >> Code: 0 >> >> URI: > http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language >> >> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. >> >> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). > When >> >> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database >> >> abstraction too. >> >> >> >> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF >> >> or IE or chrome here (ie7). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> ah ok you meant un-comment? >> >> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't >> >> exist or just isn't being reported? >> >> >> >> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create >> >> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still >> >> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot > template, >> >> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser > and >> >> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. >> >> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari > and >> >> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? >> >> >> >> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> F >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Apr 12 12:37:54 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:37:54 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE612@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE612@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: 2 icon file dave



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doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingyLooks like it. Have no idea why. ? I wouldn?t have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 12 12:43:41 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:43:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> <009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 12:38:32 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE0BEA61@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEE8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA71D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA730@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE1FA76F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02CE00EEF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE419@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE612@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE74D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Debug it through the engine and see what's happening. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy 2 icon file dave



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doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. - I wouldn't have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Debug it through the engine and see what?s happening. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy 2 icon file dave



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 //displays as expected //until this added below fred.breakApart(3,7,false,false); All html formatting is voided. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:14:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingyIt splits on spaces. So you might get this but not this From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 06:24 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Replacing the line breaks with
doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingyLooks like it. Have no idea why. ? I wouldn?t have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 12:56:25 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:56:25 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. In-Reply-To: <00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> <009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com> <00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com> I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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It manipulates .txt. Read the code in the engine. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 12:52 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Should breakApart be operating on textid or textid.txt? ________________________________ From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Debug it through the engine and see what's happening. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 12 April 2011 12:38 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy 2 icon file dave



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doesn't work as the tags are ignored. Is that correct? no html tags in gapfill text? Thought I saw something about using hyperlinks in gapfills? Too much coffee? From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: desktop gapfill comma thingy Looks like it. Have no idea why. - I wouldn't have expected that either. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett Sent: 11 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] desktop gapfill comma thingy Source: Display: first gap word: |alpha| , second gap word: |bravo| , third gap word: |charlie| ]]> The paragraphs must be in an array() right? And it's pulling the whole array, commas included instead of indexes? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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In-Reply-To: <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com> <008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk> <009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: Send it to me offline at alistair at techdis.ac.uk and I'll see if it uploads in the JISC TechDis sandpit if you like? A From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\med ia) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 13:51:26 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:51:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE7B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I don't see 3 either. 1 is fixed in the svn now. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so I'll summarise what I've found so far: 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict standards error 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to be commented e.g. //session_start(); 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more testing and report back if I find anything. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that aren't in the zip file. Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the hidden .svn stuff. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't reporting the same issue? I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the zip download. So... Is anyone else testing the beta? Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm using demo.php for testing. Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than a Windows box. HTH Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid then please invoice him. I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If I view the two alerts in fiddler > > the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php > > the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php > > > > fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ > > and for the second file_path=undefined > > > > *re invoicing* > > you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. > > > > *checks GPS* > > > > Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems > fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with > that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. > > > > I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported > before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click publish, > close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first > get: > > > > > > > > Then if I click OK > > > > > > > > If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens on > the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. > > > > That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much been > depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the > changes in moving session start into config will be the cause > > > > Pat > > On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. > > > > One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no longer > works. :-( > > > > I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With the > patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to toolkits > but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE > but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the > moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more > importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like > anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until we > can fix this. > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > There was a stray whitespace character. > > > > The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev > site. > > > > Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some > whitespace remover and ie is now fine. > > > > I will list the changes made later on. > > On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: > > with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no editor > pop-up on create in IE8 but... > > > > with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor > pop up on create now works even in IE8! > > > > What was the cause/solution? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and > look for template_management.js > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use > browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test the > beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll > be a session problem somewhere. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so > confused now :-( > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Errrrr. Yes J > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I > comment out the ini_set. > > > > At the bottom of config.php I have > > > > /*require_once("session_handler.php"); > > > > > > $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); > > > > session_set_save_handler( > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), > > > array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ > > > > > > session_start(); > > > > $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); > > > > > > } > > > > So isn't that already commented out? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file > > > > I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the > bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Hi Pat > > it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused > this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and > even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the > problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same > older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting an > LO: > > > > > > > > Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the > strict error regarding database.php: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor window > with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: > > Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in > C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 > > > > If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old > installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get > the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', 0); > in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. > > > > Does this help identify the cause/solution? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the > values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to get > it to work for firefox in the early days > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and > > Firefox. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an error > > that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > why? Isn't that a .js issue? > > > > I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? > > > > Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > So that's php dying - fiddler? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. > > > > The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version > > 8.0.7600.16385 > > > > Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got an > > error pop-up on create: > > > > Webpage error details > > > > User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; > > Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR > > 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) > > Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC > > > > > > Message: Invalid argument. > > Line: 1187 > > Char: 4 > > Code: 0 > > URI: http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language > > change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. > > not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). When > > I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database > > abstraction too. > > > > I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF > > or IE or chrome here (ie7). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > > Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 > > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > ah ok you meant un-comment? > > That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't > > exist or just isn't being reported? > > > > I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create > > and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still > > exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot template, > > give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser and > > then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. > > However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari and > > Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley > > Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > > > The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? > > > > Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > F > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Tue Apr 12 13:56:40 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:56:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\med ia) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 14:13:23 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:13:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs. The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible. G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Tue Apr 12 14:19:29 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:19:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com><00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk><00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E7@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi G Xerte uploads the image from where you browsed to to a media folder associated with the project. Changing the extension doesn't change the format. Open the original picture in any picture editor and resave as jpeg. Could you add image as attachment and I'll see if it works on my copy of XOT Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:13 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs... The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible... G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\med ia) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 14:27:00 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:27:00 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E7@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com><00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk><00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E7@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <010101cbf915$52eb68a0$f8c239e0$@tfsband.com> Hi Nigel, No - I opened it in paint and saved it as a jpeg. I didn't just rename it. J see attached. Thanks G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 03:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi G Xerte uploads the image from where you browsed to to a media folder associated with the project. Changing the extension doesn't change the format. Open the original picture in any picture editor and resave as jpeg. Could you add image as attachment and I'll see if it works on my copy of XOT Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:13 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs. The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible. G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: double.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1708 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk Tue Apr 12 14:36:09 2011 From: Nigel.Irwin at rewards-trc.co.uk (Nigel Irwin) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:36:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it.- Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s)list error in the subject - Found word(s) list error in the subject References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com><00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk><00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local><00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E7@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <010101cbf915$52eb68a0$f8c239e0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E8@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Hi G Sorry, I hadn't fully read your email. OK I have added that image in as a hotspot in both Xerte 2 and XOT without any problem both as a jpg and a png Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it.- Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s)list error in the subject - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi Nigel, No - I opened it in paint and saved it as a jpeg... I didn't just rename it... J see attached... Thanks G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 03:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi G Xerte uploads the image from where you browsed to to a media folder associated with the project. Changing the extension doesn't change the format. Open the original picture in any picture editor and resave as jpeg. Could you add image as attachment and I'll see if it works on my copy of XOT Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:13 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs... The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible... G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\med ia) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From g at tfsband.com Tue Apr 12 14:46:14 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:46:14 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it.- Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s)list error in the subject - Found word(s) list error in the subject In-Reply-To: <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E8@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com><00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk><00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local><00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E7@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <010101cbf915$52eb68a0$f8c239e0$@tfsband.com> <4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E8@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> Message-ID: <011401cbf917$ffe40a10$ffac1e30$@tfsband.com> Thanks Nigel, Then it is a setting or access issue.I will test it at home tonight. G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 03:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it.- Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s)list error in the subject - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi G Sorry, I hadn't fully read your email. OK I have added that image in as a hotspot in both Xerte 2 and XOT without any problem both as a jpg and a png Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:27 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it.- Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s)list error in the subject - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi Nigel, No - I opened it in paint and saved it as a jpeg. I didn't just rename it. J see attached. Thanks G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 03:19 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi G Xerte uploads the image from where you browsed to to a media folder associated with the project. Changing the extension doesn't change the format. Open the original picture in any picture editor and resave as jpeg. Could you add image as attachment and I'll see if it works on my copy of XOT Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 14:13 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body - Found word(s) list error in the subject Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs. The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible. G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mlynch at glam.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 15:53:01 2011 From: mlynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch M (LCSS)) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:53:01 +0000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE66B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE66B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD00117E1@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Julian Yes that does help So Xerte online toolkit is a place for creating, storing and linking to simple objects, Xerte 3 is for making more complex, bespoke objects (which could be incorporated into an online piece but can't be kept in the online space?) and Xerte 2 at the moment is for making custom pieces and templates for the online toolkit. Have I got that right? If the two tools are incompatible why are they both called Xerte? Martin Lynch -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Xerte 3.0 is a Flex compiler, using the Flex SDK. It's a developer focused tool. Users will create Flash applications from the ground up, with a rich set of components, can extend it with their own components easily and will be coders, possibly with a grasp of OOP. It aims to make it easier to get into Flex development for coders without the more hardcode OOP skills, and will probably act as a gateway for some developers between other tools and IDEs like FlashDevelop or FlashBuilder. The code is ActionScript 3.0, so skills have a lot of currency: developers familiar with Flash / AS3 Flex can pick it up right away. There are a ton of resources already out there to help, and the code you write can be edited / compiled in other IDEs. Flex 4.5 will be released soon, with options for mobile application development for Android and iOS, so Xerte 3.0 will be able to create iPhone apps. Xerte Online Toolkits is aimed at non-techies, teachers, educators, etc. It doesn't rely on any technical skills. Content is developed by filling in forms and uploading media. A wide range of 'page types' are available with support for all sorts of different interactivity, media, third party services, etc. Developer can extend it's functionality by creating new templates, or by including flash movies in the piece. The two tools are not compatible, although a toolkits piece could link to and open a window containing xerte 3.0 flash movie, with, say, a 3D model in it, so the two can work together to an extent. Does that help? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 07 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 16:20:59 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:20:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 In-Reply-To: <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD00117E1@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> References: , <013401cbf487$d1eaf630$75c0e290$@gmail.com> <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD0BA4B@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE66B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <82C3647724C334408324FFA5950B4CD00117E1@MailDB1.uni.glam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE8E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, more of less right. They are very similar. When we started work on Xerte 2, Flex cost $20k per server, so we set out to write our own mash-up of that and Authorware for Flash. Now, the Flex SDK is free, and means we can build the application we always wanted to build to start with... We debated the pros and cons of the name on the list a while ago: the consensus was to stay with Xerte. It's a bit like ActionScript 2 and ActionScript 3 are incompatible, but they are both called actionscript. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 12 April 2011 15:53 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Julian Yes that does help So Xerte online toolkit is a place for creating, storing and linking to simple objects, Xerte 3 is for making more complex, bespoke objects (which could be incorporated into an online piece but can't be kept in the online space?) and Xerte 2 at the moment is for making custom pieces and templates for the online toolkit. Have I got that right? If the two tools are incompatible why are they both called Xerte? Martin Lynch -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 10:57 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 Xerte 3.0 is a Flex compiler, using the Flex SDK. It's a developer focused tool. Users will create Flash applications from the ground up, with a rich set of components, can extend it with their own components easily and will be coders, possibly with a grasp of OOP. It aims to make it easier to get into Flex development for coders without the more hardcode OOP skills, and will probably act as a gateway for some developers between other tools and IDEs like FlashDevelop or FlashBuilder. The code is ActionScript 3.0, so skills have a lot of currency: developers familiar with Flash / AS3 Flex can pick it up right away. There are a ton of resources already out there to help, and the code you write can be edited / compiled in other IDEs. Flex 4.5 will be released soon, with options for mobile application development for Android and iOS, so Xerte 3.0 will be able to create iPhone apps. Xerte Online Toolkits is aimed at non-techies, teachers, educators, etc. It doesn't rely on any technical skills. Content is developed by filling in forms and uploading media. A wide range of 'page types' are available with support for all sorts of different interactivity, media, third party services, etc. Developer can extend it's functionality by creating new templates, or by including flash movies in the piece. The two tools are not compatible, although a toolkits piece could link to and open a window containing xerte 3.0 flash movie, with, say, a 3D model in it, so the two can work together to an extent. Does that help? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Lynch M (LCSS) Sent: 07 April 2011 11:58 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] New to Xerte - Online toolkits vs Xerte 3.0 We're dipping our toe in the Xerte pool.. I intend to run a pilot in our University of Xerte and I'd like some advice. I'd like to get a better understanding of the difference between the Xerte online Toolkit and Xerte 3 and typical usage scenarios around each tool. I'm looking for a tool to provide all academic staff with a way of creating learning objects and deploying them in learning material (Blackboard, powerpoint, whatever) I've arranged for an install of Xerte online toolkit and I imagine this is how most of our academic staff would go about creating learning objects. What can Xerte 3 do that online can't (and vice versa) and do they work together and if so how? Thanks Martin Lynch Team leader Multimedia Services University of Glamorgan 01443 483764 mlynch at glam.ac.uk _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 12 17:18:00 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:18:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61910DB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D61915E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE149@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE40C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D5F7E955@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yep, That gets it working correctly. Thanks for seeing things through to a solution. Kind regards Johnathan On 12 April 2011 10:03, Julian Tenney wrote: > It?s defaultValue=?value? > > > > not > > > > default=?value? > > > > Sorry. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 12 April 2011 09:59 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Taking the spaces out of the combo box options makes no difference. The > data values already contain no spaces in my example. > > > > I will be unavailable to reply to further emails for a few hours, but will > check in again later today. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 April 2011 23:08, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > out of interest, does it work if there are no spaces in the values? > > > > I'll have a look as well. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > *Sent:* 11 April 2011 22:42 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > I have tried both > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > and > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > The result is the same in both cases, the default is ignored. As described > earlier. When the optional parameter is added it receives a value of "" . > Selection of the first option leaves the value at "". Once any option other > than the first option is selected the matching value in the data list is > assigned. After that point selection of the first option results in the > correct value for the first option being assigned. > > > > I have tested this with the page's xml file open in Flash Develop and > watched the contents of the xml file change as the wizard is closed after > each test action in the wizard. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 April 2011 16:03, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > You need to add the default value to the value in options, not data. > > > > So in this case default=?On user request? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 11 April 2011 15:11 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Given the xwd file content as > > > > > > > > > > > > options="Small,Medium,Large,Full" width="100"/> > > > optional="true"/> > > > > > > > > If the optional parameter Narration Playback is not added then narPlayback > has a value of undefined > > > > If the optional parameter Narration Playback is added then narPlayback has > a value of "" > > > > Only once a combo box option other than the first option is selected by the > user does narPlayback get a value from the data list. So to actually give > narPlayback a value of "userRequest" the user would have to select first the > option "On page load" (giving narPlayback a value of "pageLoad"), then > select the option "On user request" (giving narPlayback the value of > "userRequest") > > > > If the parameter was not an optional one then a value could be supplied in > the xml file which would then act as the default value. Since the parameter > is optional this is not appropriate. > > > > I tried adding a parameter to the xwd declaration default="userRequest" but > this did not do anything. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 11 April 2011 11:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you add the default value in the .xwd then that should be the value the > property is instantiated in the xml as. You should always get a valid value, > even if you don?t touch the drop down at all. > > > > No? > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 17:28 > > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > "I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data)." > > > > I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that what you were saying here was that > rather than trying to pass a default value from the xwd file, I should > include in the script that received the data e.g. getPageID code to test for > a null value. > > > > Since I was setting up a combo box to allow a user to select between > playing narration on page load or on user request I simply changed the order > of the options around so that playing on page load was the second option. > Action only needed to be taken if the second option was selected and > selecting the second option always returned the same value (whereas > selecting the first option might return "" or "onUserRequest". So it just > kept the testing simpler. > > > > My experience during testing was that with respect to a combo box > specifying an optional property > > 1. No optional property added : property value = undefined. > > 2. Optional property added and wizard closed without selection of a value : > property value = "" > > 3. Optional property added and first option selected : property value = "" > > 4. Optional property added and second option selected : property value = > "second option value" > > 5. Optional property added and second option selected then first option > selected : property value = "first option value" > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 6 April 2011 16:21, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Can do that, yes, if it doesn?t already work? I know some controls take > default values, precisely because when an optional attribute is added, it > adds a null value: did you try what I suggested? This code from the wizard > suggest all optional properties will handle a default value. > > > > //add optional properties > > addPropListener = new Object(); > > addPropListener.click = function(obj){ > > > > if > (wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue > != undefined){ > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = > wizard.nfoObject.wizard[tree.selectedNode.nodeName][optProps.selectedItem.data].defaultValue; > > } else { > > tree.selectedNode.attributes[optProps.selectedItem.data] = "" > > } > > tree.dispatchEvent({target:tree, type: "change"}); > > } > > addProp.addEventListener('click', addPropListener); > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 06 April 2011 15:29 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > It seems strange to me that a combo box / drop down menu should default to > returning "" rather than the value of the first element in the list. > > > > Since the xwd file provides the data for the construction of the wizard, I > guess the behaviour of the wizard is governed by the code that processes the > xwd file and presents the wizard form to the user, and that this is a part > of the core Xerte code. Would it be possible to update the code so that a > combo box when run could have either a default value specified in the xwd > file or alternatively that it just defaulted to returning the value of the > first item in the list unless one of the other items had been selected? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 5 April 2011 15:09, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I think default should be On Page Load (the label) rather than pageLoad > (the data). > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2011 15:07 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2 : Combo box value is defaulting to "" why? > > > > Hello Xerte team, > > > > As far as I can tell this line is set up like many other optional property > lines and I don't recall hitting this problem before > > > > In an xwd file I have the optional property > > > > width="150" optional="true"/> > > When the page wizard is opened and the Narration Playback property added > and the page wizard closed, the value of narPlayback changes from undefined > to "" > > If the page wizard is re-opened the combo box displays the selected value > as "On page load". > > Clicking on the value "On page load" does not change the value from "" to > "pageLoad". > > > > The only way I can actually set the value of narPlayback to "pageLoad" is > to select the alternative option from the combo box i.e. "On user request" > and then to select "On page load" > > > > What am I missing here? > > What do I need to do to ensure that when the optional property is added it > receives the default value of "pageLoad"? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Apr 12 18:13:01 2011 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:13:01 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE7B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <006201cbf38c$b8cd89c0$2a689d40$@co.uk> <00f401cbf3a0$c4b3b660$4e1b2320$@co.uk> <011f01cbf3af$dec1a490$9c44edb0$@co.uk> <012601cbf3b3$59ab86a0$0d0293e0$@co.uk> <012701cbf3b5$49878740$dc9695c0$@co.uk> <013001cbf3b9$e03aa470$a0afed50$@co.uk> <006401cbf54f$145b9980$3d12cc80$@co.uk> <00c301cbf5eb$8b0f0c50$a12d24f0$@co.uk> <013801cbf5fd$875e3420$961a9c60$@co.uk> <016301cbf604$7060df50$51229df0$@co.uk> <003401cbf83c$79d04690$6d70d3b0$@co.uk> <32517315-D4D7-41F2-9956-39D4C93BC3CA@googlemail.com> <006001cbf845$e06b4770$a141d650$@co.uk> <097A927E-ABD4-42E9-8382-29B8716610A2@googlemail.com> <00f501cbf862$51629610$f427c230$@co.uk> <010601cbf86a$58af0cc0$0a0d2640$@co.uk> <010a01cbf875$707d8f10$5178ad30$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE61D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007f01cbf8f7$0b3f75f0$21be61d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE7B4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20110412191301.52384idtfuqtzkm5@server.tor.nl> I had 3. in the first beta. Haven't had the time to check the latest. Will try to do that later this week. Citeren Julian Tenney : > I don't see 3 either. 1 is fixed in the svn now. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too. > This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so > I'll summarise what I've found so far: > > 1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line > 23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is > supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict > standards error > > 2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to > be commented e.g. //session_start(); > > 3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and > closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to > close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are > showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't > getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on > my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well > as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new > localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more > testing and report back if I find anything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that > aren't in the zip file. > > Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the > hidden .svn stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same > problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't > reporting the same issue? > > I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the > zip download. So... > > Is anyone else testing the beta? > Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues? > > I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and > latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get > these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm > using demo.php for testing. > > Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is > reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an > online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than > a Windows box. > > HTH > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 > > i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back. > > If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid > then please invoice him. > > I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford. > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> If I view the two alerts in fiddler >> >> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php >> >> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php >> >> >> >> fiddler text view for the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/ >> >> and for the second file_path=undefined >> >> >> >> *re invoicing* >> >> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-) >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace. >> >> >> >> *checks GPS* >> >> >> >> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems >> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with >> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line. >> >> >> >> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported >> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click > publish, >> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first >> get: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then if I click OK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens > on >> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved. >> >> >> >> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much > been >> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the >> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that. >> >> >> >> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no > longer >> works. :-( >> >> >> >> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With > the >> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to > toolkits >> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE >> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the >> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more >> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like >> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until > we >> can fix this. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> There was a stray whitespace character. >> >> >> >> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev >> site. >> >> >> >> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some >> whitespace remover and ie is now fine. >> >> >> >> I will list the changes made later on. >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" wrote: >> >> with //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no > editor >> pop-up on create in IE8 but... >> >> >> >> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor >> pop up on create now works even in IE8! >> >> >> >> What was the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and >> look for template_management.js >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use >> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test > the >> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll >> be a session problem somewhere. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so >> confused now :-( >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Errrrr. Yes J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I >> comment out the ini_set. >> >> >> >> At the bottom of config.php I have >> >> >> >> /*require_once("session_handler.php"); >> >> >> >> >> >> $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler(); >> >> >> >> session_set_save_handler( >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'), >> >> >> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/ >> >> >> >> >> >> session_start(); >> >> >> >> $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id(); >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> So isn't that already commented out? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file >> >> >> >> I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the >> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start() >> >> >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10 >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused >> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and >> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the >> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same >> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting > an >> LO: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the >> strict error regarding database.php: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor > window >> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window: >> >> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in >> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14 >> >> >> >> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old >> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get >> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting', > 0); >> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE. >> >> >> >> Does this help identify the cause/solution? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the >> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to > get >> it to work for firefox in the early days >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and >> >> Firefox. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an > error >> >> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> why? Isn't that a .js issue? >> >> >> >> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8? >> >> >> >> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> So that's php dying - fiddler? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation. >> >> >> >> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version >> >> 8.0.7600.16385 >> >> >> >> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got > an >> >> error pop-up on create: >> >> >> >> Webpage error details >> >> >> >> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR >> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C) >> >> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: Invalid argument. >> >> Line: 1187 >> >> Char: 4 >> >> Code: 0 >> >> URI: > http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language >> >> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e. >> >> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it). > When >> >> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database >> >> abstraction too. >> >> >> >> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF >> >> or IE or chrome here (ie7). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38 >> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list' >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> ah ok you meant un-comment? >> >> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't >> >> exist or just isn't being reported? >> >> >> >> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create >> >> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still >> >> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot > template, >> >> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser > and >> >> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears. >> >> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari > and >> >> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration? >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley >> >> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51 >> >> To: Xerte discussion list >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2 >> >> >> >> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ? >> >> >> >> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> F >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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From Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk Tue Apr 12 20:15:10 2011 From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk (Alistair McNaught) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:15:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body Message-ID: <01D89872-B9F6-4BC2-8F99-D9A8CF6013AA@techdis.ac.uk> Oddly it worked fine for me using your images. Sorry not to get back earlier: forgot charger, ran out of battery then returned home to BT engineer explaining lack of Internet in our road! Have a look at http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_7876 The images didn't all lend themselves to interactive pages but I just wanted to check they uploaded ok. Alistair Sent from my phone: Alistair McNaught 07870567659 On 12 Apr 2011, at 14:15, "Grover" wrote: > Hi nigel, > > > > I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the > same error occurs. > > The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. > dc.jpeg. > > I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these > images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP > directory? I see media folders in there? > > > > I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most > technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible. > > > > G > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin > Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview > it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body > > > > Hi > > > > Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do > not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, > get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked > fine. PNG file is also fine. > > > > Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect > file format. > > > > Regards, Nigel > IT Training and Support Co-ordinator > > 01444 884906 > > > > > > _____ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover > Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview > it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body > > I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. > > > > I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate > install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a > rights issue on the folders by default at work. > > > > Regards, > > Grover > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file > names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc > > > > Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific > image. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover > Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to > create a hotspot image. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover > Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) > on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not > able to see where the error is? > > Please help? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover > Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM > To: 'Xerte discussion list' > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > I have already tried that. > > I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media > folders > (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) > there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is > another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover > Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview > it. > > > > Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online > and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can > comment on? > > > > From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] > Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Cc: g at tfsband.com > Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. > > > > Hi there, > > > > I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the > tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this > error? Even when I try to import a background. > > > > Please assist. > > > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Tue Apr 12 20:36:24 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:36:24 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body In-Reply-To: <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: "The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg." The path should be FileLocation + 'media/[filename]' ... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:13 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs... The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible... G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 ________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\med ia) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear... From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background... Please assist... This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 123603 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From g at tfsband.com Wed Apr 13 06:58:13 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:58:13 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body In-Reply-To: References: <000c01cbf8ea$4e7669d0$eb633d70$@tfsband.com> <001501cbf8ef$07a2c0d0$16e84270$@tfsband.com><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EE5F0@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <006301cbf8f9$91810cd0$b4832670$@tfsband.com><008101cbf902$24709580$6d51c080$@tfsband.com> <00a301cbf903$ad631100$08293300$@co.uk><009901cbf904$25fb4240$71f1c6c0$@tfsband.com><00c401cbf906$e13c3350$a3b499f0$@co.uk> <00c001cbf908$a7f22530$f7d66f90$@tfsband.com><4A9077E7F0788F41805B8FBE3B6A9476011A41E5@MOTHER.rewardstrc.local> <00ef01cbf913$6944c300$3bce4900$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <000f01cbf99f$c8a146c0$59e3d440$@tfsband.com> Thanks Paul, It was a typo on my side. It does say FileLocation. I am more convinced today that it is an access or rights thing on my work p.c. At home it works fine with all the media. I tested it last night. I am not going to fiddle with it too much as I am getting a new laptop in the next 2 weeks and will rather do the full install there and see if this error persists. I will then send a new mail on the forum. Thanks for all the help though, G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Swanson Sent: 12 April 2011 09:36 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body "The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg." The path should be FileLocation + 'media/[filename]' . From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:13 AM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: Youneed toselect media before you can preview it. - Foundword(s) list error in the Text body Hi nigel, I have tried to change the extension, and have resaved it as a jpeg but the same error occurs. The path is weird though it shows Filedirectory + media/[filename] i.e. dc.jpeg. I have no folder called media where I am importing this from? Do these images need to be relocated to the xertetoolkits folder in the XAMMP directory? I see media folders in there? I dn't see how that could make a difference - but I am not the most technical person around so I am trying to be as pedantic as possible. G From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nigel Irwin Sent: 12 April 2011 02:57 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hi Have upload a jpg into Hotspot and works fine for me. I have tried .bmp, do not get a message but picture doesn't appear either under preview or edit, get a collapsed box. Trued same photo converted to .jpeg and that worked fine. PNG file is also fine. Have come across this once before and that turned out to be an incorrect file format. Regards, Nigel IT Training and Support Co-ordinator 01444 884906 _____ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:56 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need toselect media before you can preview it. - Found word(s) list error in the Text body I have tried a couple of images and still does the same. I will try it tonight on my personal p.c. at home - I have a separate install there and will email all tomorrow. If it works I assume there is a rights issue on the folders by default at work. Regards, Grover From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:44 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. ok worth checking - sometimes people fall foul of special characters in file names or trying to use .bmp or .eps etc Perhaps try another image just to check it's not a problem with the specific image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:24 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. The file name Is dc and it is a png. Its just an image - I am trying to create a hotspot image. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 12 April 2011 01:21 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. What's the file name and file type of the image you have uploaded? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:10 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Is there a particular environment (I,e, java) or setting (enable macromedia) on the webpage I need to have in order to view/upload this? I am still not able to see where the error is? Please help? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. I have already tried that. I am importing this from a personal folder and it is showing in the media folders (C:\xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\USER-FILES\6-guest2-mediaInteractions\media) there is still the same error. What I was asking was whether there is another reason. Apologies I was not very clear. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 12 April 2011 11:05 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Maybe you need to change the rights on your folders? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 12 April 2011 09:53 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Apparently this is a rights issue on my personal folders? I searched online and found a previous comment. Is there a way to get around this that you can comment on? From: Grover [mailto:g at tfsband.com] Sent: 12 April 2011 10:19 AM To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: g at tfsband.com Subject: Error: You need to select media before you can preview it. Hi there, I am trying to add a hotspot image to a learning object. I am following the tutorial step by step and whenever I try to import media it gives me this error? Even when I try to import a background. Please assist. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 14 09:16:10 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:16:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots In-Reply-To: <000001cbfa7b$1d20c780$57625680$@tfsband.com> References: <000001cbfa7b$1d20c780$57625680$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEEAA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Flash doesn't trap those events. Right click always brings up the flash sub-menu. There is no double click event: though there are workarounds. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hot spots Hi all, I am working on a systems module and am using the hot spot interactive option. My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hot spots Hi all, I am working on a systems module and am using the hot spot interactive option. My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Can you advise on the workarounds? And if text can be incorporated as well. i.e. if I say enter "specific word" Yes, into Cell A1 and once done correctly moves on? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 10:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Flash doesn't trap those events. Right click always brings up the flash sub-menu. There is no double click event: though there are workarounds. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hot spots Hi all, I am working on a systems module and am using the hot spot interactive option. My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From g at tfsband.com Thu Apr 14 09:51:48 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:51:48 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEF0B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <000001cbfa7b$1d20c780$57625680$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEEAA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001101cbfa7e$98d1f130$ca75d390$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEF0B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002201cbfa81$3519f590$9f4de0b0$@tfsband.com> Only xerte toolkits, and alas I am not a developer and cannot write code. I assume this is a problem. No problem in this case . J From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 10:42 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Are you using xerte? Or xerte online toolkits? Do you write code? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Can you advise on the workarounds? And if text can be incorporated as well. i.e. if I say enter "specific word" Yes, into Cell A1 and once done correctly moves on? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 10:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Flash doesn't trap those events. Right click always brings up the flash sub-menu. There is no double click event: though there are workarounds. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hot spots Hi all, I am working on a systems module and am using the hot spot interactive option. My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 14 11:36:34 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:36:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots In-Reply-To: <002201cbfa81$3519f590$9f4de0b0$@tfsband.com> References: <000001cbfa7b$1d20c780$57625680$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEEAA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001101cbfa7e$98d1f130$ca75d390$@tfsband.com> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D62EEF0B@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <002201cbfa81$3519f590$9f4de0b0$@tfsband.com> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D7310@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> There is no support in the templates for double click hotspots, or text entry hotspots, so those would need developing. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:52 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Only xerte toolkits, and alas I am not a developer and cannot write code. I assume this is a problem... No problem in this case ... :) From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 10:42 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Are you using xerte? Or xerte online toolkits? Do you write code? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:33 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Can you advise on the workarounds? And if text can be incorporated as well. i.e. if I say enter "specific word" Yes, into Cell A1 and once done correctly moves on? From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 10:16 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Hot spots Flash doesn't trap those events. Right click always brings up the flash sub-menu. There is no double click event: though there are workarounds. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Grover Sent: 14 April 2011 09:08 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Hot spots Hi all, I am working on a systems module and am using the hot spot interactive option. My question here is if xerte has the following additions to the hot spot features: "Double-Click, Right-click, enter specific text or values" in order to go through the course? All I see currently is left click. Regards G This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Thu Apr 14 13:00:24 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:00:24 +0300 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs Message-ID: Thanks for the quick reply. That's such a pity - matching pictures and words is so useful in language teaching. Just wondering if anyone else has created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 13:18:10 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:18:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply. ?That's such a pity - matching pictures and > words is so useful in language teaching. ?Just wondering if anyone else has > created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 14 13:23:13 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:23:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D73FC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hey, that's great stuff you've done there, it looks really good. The audience are adults, with English as a foreign language? My kids would enjoy doing that. J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 14 April 2011 13:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply. ?That's such a pity - matching pictures and > words is so useful in language teaching. ?Just wondering if anyone else has > created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From g at tfsband.com Thu Apr 14 13:35:18 2011 From: g at tfsband.com (Grover) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:35:18 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D73FC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D73FC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004501cbfaa0$6b8fab00$42af0100$@tfsband.com> Wow - great templates! -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 14 April 2011 02:23 PM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs Hey, that's great stuff you've done there, it looks really good. The audience are adults, with English as a foreign language? My kids would enjoy doing that. J -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne Sent: 14 April 2011 13:18 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply. ?That's such a pity - matching pictures > and words is so useful in language teaching. ?Just wondering if anyone > else has created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. = From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Apr 14 13:40:17 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:40:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006901cbfaa1$1e555aa0$5b000fe0$@co.uk> With a bit of perseverance you can cheat this a bit and achieve what I think you want by using html img tags. I've covered this during training sessions and have an example here: http://www.learningapps.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play.php?template_id=8 Originally this was just an example using the categories interaction but I just tested if the same principle works with the matching pairs and it does. I moved that to be the first page and would add two comments: 1. The hit area doesn't cover the whole box so you need to add a relevant instruction to drag the labels to the top of the box. 2. To fit the images to the boxes you may need to add some
tags. 3. Below is an example of what I added to one of the Target fields:





HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 14 April 2011 13:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs Thanks for the quick reply. That's such a pity - matching pictures and words is so useful in language teaching. Just wondering if anyone else has created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Apr 14 13:54:32 2011 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:54:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: <006901cbfaa1$1e555aa0$5b000fe0$@co.uk> References: <006901cbfaa1$1e555aa0$5b000fe0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <007401cbfaa3$1bc54f00$534fed00$@co.uk> Slight correction - it was only after my message reached the list that I viewed the public link and realised the target boxes were too big and off the bottom of the screen so I removed 3 of the
tags in each target field e.g. now


You may need to refresh to see the corrected version. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 14 April 2011 13:40 To: 'Xerte discussion list' Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs With a bit of perseverance you can cheat this a bit and achieve what I think you want by using html img tags. I've covered this during training sessions and have an example here: http://www.learningapps.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play.php?template_id=8 Originally this was just an example using the categories interaction but I just tested if the same principle works with the matching pairs and it does. I moved that to be the first page and would add two comments: 1. The hit area doesn't cover the whole box so you need to add a relevant instruction to drag the labels to the top of the box. 2. To fit the images to the boxes you may need to add some
tags. 3. Below is an example of what I added to one of the Target fields:





HTH Ron From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Deborah Delin Sent: 14 April 2011 13:00 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs Thanks for the quick reply. That's such a pity - matching pictures and words is so useful in language teaching. Just wondering if anyone else has created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 14:23:28 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:23:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D73FC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F02D63D73FC@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: You're both too kind - I'm blushing. These examples are mainly for elementary level adult EFL students. I like Ron's matching pairs example. I hadn't thought of doing it that way. On 14 April 2011 13:23, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hey, that's great stuff you've done there, it looks really good. The audience are adults, with English as a foreign language? My kids would enjoy doing that. > > J > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Barne > Sent: 14 April 2011 13:18 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs > > These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: > > Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 > Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 > Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 > Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ > > They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with > hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. > > > On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: >> Thanks for the quick reply. ?That's such a pity - matching pictures and >> words is so useful in language teaching. ?Just wondering if anyone else has >> created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From admin at strivney.com Thu Apr 14 16:06:51 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:06:51 +0300 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs Message-ID: Wow thanks Ron and Simon - I'm glad I asked! Of course drag and drop hot spot can be used to achieve a pairs exercise! Why didn't I think of that? And I didn't know you could use a URL to add graphics - I can think of other instances where that could be useful. I see one just needs to use one's imagination! Thanks so much. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at southcom.com.au Fri Apr 15 00:43:29 2011 From: john at southcom.com.au (John Doubleday) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:43:29 +1000 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon, Yes an excellent job. I have been wanting to use the Drag and drop, hot spot tools in Xerte for a long time now. I have been waiting for the software to become stable. I am interested in your experience with Xerte. Which Xerte tool did you use for your projects. Was there any coding involved? And finally,...yes its coming, was their many software issues? Thanks for the post. Cheers johnD Digital Teacher-Super Tech On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Simon Barne wrote: > These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: > > Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 > Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 > Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 > Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ > > They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with > hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. > > > On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: > > Thanks for the quick reply. That's such a pity - matching pictures and > > words is so useful in language teaching. Just wondering if anyone else > has > > created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simonbarne at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 08:56:34 2011 From: simonbarne at gmail.com (Simon Barne) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:56:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used Xerte Online Toolkits. There wasn't any coding required. (For the phonemic symbols in text areas, I did use the HTML font tag.) I don't remember any software issues. It was all quite straightforward, I think. The main hassle was working out the maximum image sizes for each page type. I have made a simple guide to these - http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=36. On 15 April 2011 00:43, John Doubleday wrote: > Hi Simon, > Yes an excellent job. I have been wanting to use the Drag and drop, hot > spot?tools in Xerte for a long time now. I have been waiting for the > software to become stable. I am interested in your experience with > Xerte.?Which Xerte tool?did you use for your projects.?Was there any coding > involved? And finally,...yes its coming, was their many software issues? > Thanks for the post. > Cheers > johnD > Digital Teacher-Super Tech > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Simon Barne wrote: >> >> These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: >> >> Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 >> Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 >> Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 >> Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ >> >> They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with >> hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. >> >> >> On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: >> > Thanks for the quick reply. ?That's such a pity - matching pictures and >> > words is so useful in language teaching. ?Just wondering if anyone else >> > has >> > created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Apr 15 09:08:55 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:08:55 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Graphics in Matching Pairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71BE86EE-680B-4331-9455-404536D3ED3E@googlemail.com> Cheers for this. Be good to get some links to this into the wiki. Simon if you'd not seen xpert before, perhaps some of your content could go into that? Pat On 15 Apr 2011, at 08:56, Simon Barne wrote: > I used Xerte Online Toolkits. There wasn't any coding required. (For > the phonemic symbols in text areas, I did use the HTML font tag.) I > don't remember any software issues. It was all quite straightforward, > I think. > > The main hassle was working out the maximum image sizes for each page > type. I have made a simple guide to these - > http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=36. > > > > On 15 April 2011 00:43, John Doubleday wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> Yes an excellent job. I have been wanting to use the Drag and drop, hot >> spot tools in Xerte for a long time now. I have been waiting for the >> software to become stable. I am interested in your experience with >> Xerte. Which Xerte tool did you use for your projects. Was there any coding >> involved? And finally,...yes its coming, was their many software issues? >> Thanks for the post. >> Cheers >> johnD >> Digital Teacher-Super Tech >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Simon Barne wrote: >>> >>> These are a few experimental ones I've made for English language learners: >>> >>> Time: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=29 >>> Pronunciation: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=32 >>> Relatives: http://www.intouea.com/xerte/play.php?template_id=28 >>> Objects: http://intouea.com/elearning/objects/ >>> >>> They're not brilliant, but they show the sort of thing you can do with >>> hotspots and drag and drop, for instance. >>> >>> >>> On 14 April 2011 13:00, Deborah Delin wrote: >>>> Thanks for the quick reply. That's such a pity - matching pictures and >>>> words is so useful in language teaching. Just wondering if anyone else >>>> has >>>> created word/picture exercises in Xerte in a way I might have missed? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Apr 15 09:12:35 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:12:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Friday, Friday, friday Message-ID: Hello all, I'd like to document up and start on adding to the manuals for the new version. To do this we really need to get some feedback on the new release. It's by enlarge the same code, but with a few features added and a new installer. As its Friday perhaps you could take half an hour this afternoon to do an install and chip in with any bugs or suggestions. Ta Pat From lgoni at grupogureak.com Tue Apr 19 11:51:34 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:51:34 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] pagewizards Message-ID: hello, i'm bad with english so sorry for the faults. i found page wizards for xerte, i saw that they are like xerte online toolkit, i would like to know if they are some like media interactions, or if i can use somehow the code i found in the source code with the name media interactions i'm using xerte 2.1, with the latest version page wizars don't work thank you very much -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Go?i Corral, Leire Sent: 19 April 2011 11:52 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] pagewizards hello, i'm bad with english so sorry for the faults. i found page wizards for xerte, i saw that they are like xerte online toolkit, i would like to know if they are some like media interactions, or if i can use somehow the code i found in the source code with the name media interactions i'm using xerte 2.1, with the latest version page wizars don't work thank you very much -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The desktop version of Xerte has a number of project wide templates these are Case Study, Media Interactions, Menu, Page Templates, Presentation. Project wide templates provide an easy to use interface for none technical users, very similar to that provided in Xerte On-line toolkits. However project wide templates take over the Xerte interface by providing their own project wizard in which you select build a project by selecting page templates from those available in that particular project template. As a result of the above you can use the desk top version of Xerte to make separate projects based on different project templates but you cannot combine pages from different project templates in to one project. Nor can you access the pages in a project template from the xerte icon based page building interface that you are presented with when Xerte first opens. Page Wizards are an attempt to overcome some of these restrictions so that users who would like to learn more about how Xerte works can develop projects in the default icon based page building environment whilst also having access to a large number of pre-built page templates. The Page Wizards at present only include pages that exist in the Page Templates project wide template, plus some additional page templates that are unique to the Page Wizards. I hope at some future time to be able to include additional pages from some of the other project wide templates e.g. Media Interactions though my main focus is to keep the Page Wizards up to date with developments in the Page Templates project wide template. One problem in introducing new pages from other project wide templates is that whilst most of the time the code to enable a page to work is stored in the .rlm file, it can be that code that might be used by several different pages might be built into the project file (effectively the .rlt file that you get when you first create a project based on a project wide template and before you add any pages to it). An example of this is the code that supports the narration feature in the Page Templates project wide template. This is resolved when using Page Wizards by adding the narration.rlm model file to the Page Wizards project. This is discussed further in the Xerte Wiki. If you want to have projects that contain pages from different project wide templates then you have the following options. 1. Create several separate projects each using a different project wide template. 2. Get used to using the Page Wizards, learn how the various files (.xwd, .xml and .rlm files) work together to deliver a page wizard. To get you started look at a simple page such as a title page. 3. Try building your own Page Wizard for a page that you would like to have. Creating your own page wizards is discussed in the documentation I have produced for page wizards, down-loadable from the xerte wiki. Remember you can use this email list to ask questions to help you in your learning. I will do my best to help you to understand how Page Wizards work and how to go about creating your own Page Wizards from existing project wide template pages. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 12:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > You can use the media interaction template in Xerte. It?s in the latest > version on the website. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Go?i Corral, Leire > *Sent:* 19 April 2011 11:52 > *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > *Subject:* [Xerte] pagewizards > > > > hello, i'm bad with english so sorry for the faults. i found page wizards > for xerte, i saw that they are like xerte online toolkit, i would like to > know if they are some like media interactions, or if i can use somehow the > code i found in the source code with the name media interactions > > i'm using xerte 2.1, with the latest version page wizars don't work > > thank you very much > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Tue Apr 19 14:47:15 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:47:15 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: thank you, i think i understand how it works the problem with page wizards, i try to use them with xerte 2.15, but it didn't work, i install xerte 2.1 and it works, i put the folders in xerte/wizards both times ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Kemp Johnathan Enviado el: martes, 19 de abril de 2011 14:54 Para: Xerte discussion list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards Just before I try to clarify for you the differences between project wide templates and Page Wizards can you let me know what exactly you are describing when you say "Page Wizards don't work"? As far as I know they work reliably, and are being used by a number of developers, so if you have found a fault or problem with them I would appreciate as much detail as possible so that I can correct the problem. The desktop version of Xerte has a number of project wide templates these are Case Study, Media Interactions, Menu, Page Templates, Presentation. Project wide templates provide an easy to use interface for none technical users, very similar to that provided in Xerte On-line toolkits. However project wide templates take over the Xerte interface by providing their own project wizard in which you select build a project by selecting page templates from those available in that particular project template. As a result of the above you can use the desk top version of Xerte to make separate projects based on different project templates but you cannot combine pages from different project templates in to one project. Nor can you access the pages in a project template from the xerte icon based page building interface that you are presented with when Xerte first opens. Page Wizards are an attempt to overcome some of these restrictions so that users who would like to learn more about how Xerte works can develop projects in the default icon based page building environment whilst also having access to a large number of pre-built page templates. The Page Wizards at present only include pages that exist in the Page Templates project wide template, plus some additional page templates that are unique to the Page Wizards. I hope at some future time to be able to include additional pages from some of the other project wide templates e.g. Media Interactions though my main focus is to keep the Page Wizards up to date with developments in the Page Templates project wide template. One problem in introducing new pages from other project wide templates is that whilst most of the time the code to enable a page to work is stored in the .rlm file, it can be that code that might be used by several different pages might be built into the project file (effectively the .rlt file that you get when you first create a project based on a project wide template and before you add any pages to it). An example of this is the code that supports the narration feature in the Page Templates project wide template. This is resolved when using Page Wizards by adding the narration.rlm model file to the Page Wizards project. This is discussed further in the Xerte Wiki. If you want to have projects that contain pages from different project wide templates then you have the following options. 1. Create several separate projects each using a different project wide template. 2. Get used to using the Page Wizards, learn how the various files (.xwd, .xml and .rlm files) work together to deliver a page wizard. To get you started look at a simple page such as a title page. 3. Try building your own Page Wizard for a page that you would like to have. Creating your own page wizards is discussed in the documentation I have produced for page wizards, down-loadable from the xerte wiki. Remember you can use this email list to ask questions to help you in your learning. I will do my best to help you to understand how Page Wizards work and how to go about creating your own Page Wizards from existing project wide template pages. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 12:11, Julian Tenney wrote: You can use the media interaction template in Xerte. It's in the latest version on the website. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Tue Apr 19 15:13:39 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:13:39 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: sorry the other version was Xerte 2.5.7.1, no 1.5 ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Kemp Johnathan Enviado el: martes, 19 de abril de 2011 14:54 Para: Xerte discussion list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards Just before I try to clarify for you the differences between project wide templates and Page Wizards can you let me know what exactly you are describing when you say "Page Wizards don't work"? As far as I know they work reliably, and are being used by a number of developers, so if you have found a fault or problem with them I would appreciate as much detail as possible so that I can correct the problem. The desktop version of Xerte has a number of project wide templates these are Case Study, Media Interactions, Menu, Page Templates, Presentation. Project wide templates provide an easy to use interface for none technical users, very similar to that provided in Xerte On-line toolkits. However project wide templates take over the Xerte interface by providing their own project wizard in which you select build a project by selecting page templates from those available in that particular project template. As a result of the above you can use the desk top version of Xerte to make separate projects based on different project templates but you cannot combine pages from different project templates in to one project. Nor can you access the pages in a project template from the xerte icon based page building interface that you are presented with when Xerte first opens. Page Wizards are an attempt to overcome some of these restrictions so that users who would like to learn more about how Xerte works can develop projects in the default icon based page building environment whilst also having access to a large number of pre-built page templates. The Page Wizards at present only include pages that exist in the Page Templates project wide template, plus some additional page templates that are unique to the Page Wizards. I hope at some future time to be able to include additional pages from some of the other project wide templates e.g. Media Interactions though my main focus is to keep the Page Wizards up to date with developments in the Page Templates project wide template. One problem in introducing new pages from other project wide templates is that whilst most of the time the code to enable a page to work is stored in the .rlm file, it can be that code that might be used by several different pages might be built into the project file (effectively the .rlt file that you get when you first create a project based on a project wide template and before you add any pages to it). An example of this is the code that supports the narration feature in the Page Templates project wide template. This is resolved when using Page Wizards by adding the narration.rlm model file to the Page Wizards project. This is discussed further in the Xerte Wiki. If you want to have projects that contain pages from different project wide templates then you have the following options. 1. Create several separate projects each using a different project wide template. 2. Get used to using the Page Wizards, learn how the various files (.xwd, .xml and .rlm files) work together to deliver a page wizard. To get you started look at a simple page such as a title page. 3. Try building your own Page Wizard for a page that you would like to have. Creating your own page wizards is discussed in the documentation I have produced for page wizards, down-loadable from the xerte wiki. Remember you can use this email list to ask questions to help you in your learning. I will do my best to help you to understand how Page Wizards work and how to go about creating your own Page Wizards from existing project wide template pages. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 12:11, Julian Tenney wrote: You can use the media interaction template in Xerte. It's in the latest version on the website. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Go?i Corral, Leire Sent: 19 April 2011 11:52 To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] pagewizards hello, i'm bad with english so sorry for the faults. i found page wizards for xerte, i saw that they are like xerte online toolkit, i would like to know if they are some like media interactions, or if i can use somehow the code i found in the source code with the name media interactions i'm using xerte 2.1, with the latest version page wizars don't work thank you very much This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 19 17:46:24 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:46:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Following on from your last email I have downloaded the version of desktop Xerte currently available from the main Xerte web site, which is described as version 2.15. I have deleted my current installation of Xerte, installed this version, created a project based on the Page Templates project wide template and compared all the files this generated with the files generated by performing the same task with the previous version. This is my standard process for identifying changes in versions and the comparison reveals no changes in the two sets of project files. I have also installed page wizards in this new version and tested a couple of them (title page and model answer) both worked correctly. I am not sure what has happened in your installation. Page Wizards only work with Xerte 2.n (that is they don't work with Xerte On-line toolkits), but I can confirm they work with the current version of Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 15:13, Go?i Corral, Leire wrote: > sorry the other version was Xerte 2.5.7.1, no 1.5 > > ------------------------------ > *De:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *En nombre de *Kemp Johnathan > *Enviado el:* martes, 19 de abril de 2011 14:54 > *Para:* Xerte discussion list > *Asunto:* [Xerte] Re: pagewizards > > Just before I try to clarify for you the differences between project wide > templates and Page Wizards can you let me know what exactly you are > describing when you say "Page Wizards don't work"? As far as I know they > work reliably, and are being used by a number of developers, so if you have > found a fault or problem with them I would appreciate as much detail as > possible so that I can correct the problem. > > The desktop version of Xerte has a number of project wide templates these > are Case Study, Media Interactions, Menu, Page Templates, Presentation. > Project wide templates provide an easy to use interface for none technical > users, very similar to that provided in Xerte On-line toolkits. However > project wide templates take over the Xerte interface by providing their own > project wizard in which you select build a project by selecting page > templates from those available in that particular project template. > > As a result of the above you can use the desk top version of Xerte to make > separate projects based on different project templates but you cannot > combine pages from different project templates in to one project. Nor can > you access the pages in a project template from the xerte icon based page > building interface that you are presented with when Xerte first opens. > > Page Wizards are an attempt to overcome some of these restrictions so that > users who would like to learn more about how Xerte works can develop > projects in the default icon based page building environment whilst also > having access to a large number of pre-built page templates. The Page > Wizards at present only include pages that exist in the Page Templates > project wide template, plus some additional page templates that are unique > to the Page Wizards. > > I hope at some future time to be able to include additional pages from some > of the other project wide templates e.g. Media Interactions though my main > focus is to keep the Page Wizards up to date with developments in the Page > Templates project wide template. > > One problem in introducing new pages from other project wide templates is > that whilst most of the time the code to enable a page to work is stored in > the .rlm file, it can be that code that might be used by several different > pages might be built into the project file (effectively the .rlt file that > you get when you first create a project based on a project wide template and > before you add any pages to it). An example of this is the code that > supports the narration feature in the Page Templates project wide template. > This is resolved when using Page Wizards by adding the narration.rlm model > file to the Page Wizards project. This is discussed further in the Xerte > Wiki. > > If you want to have projects that contain pages from different project wide > templates then you have the following options. > > 1. Create several separate projects each using a different project wide > template. > 2. Get used to using the Page Wizards, learn how the various files (.xwd, > .xml and .rlm files) work together to deliver a page wizard. To get you > started look at a simple page such as a title page. > 3. Try building your own Page Wizard for a page that you would like to > have. Creating your own page wizards is discussed in the documentation I > have produced for page wizards, down-loadable from the xerte wiki. Remember > you can use this email list to ask questions to help you in your learning. > > I will do my best to help you to understand how Page Wizards work and how > to go about creating your own Page Wizards from existing project wide > template pages. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 19 April 2011 12:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> You can use the media interaction template in Xerte. It?s in the latest >> version on the website. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Go?i Corral, Leire >> *Sent:* 19 April 2011 11:52 >> *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> *Subject:* [Xerte] pagewizards >> >> >> >> hello, i'm bad with english so sorry for the faults. i found page wizards >> for xerte, i saw that they are like xerte online toolkit, i would like to >> know if they are some like media interactions, or if i can use somehow the >> code i found in the source code with the name media interactions >> >> i'm using xerte 2.1, with the latest version page wizars don't work >> >> thank you very much >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >> permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 19 17:54:03 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:54:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Message-ID: Hello all desktop Xerte 2 users, I have just posted to the Xerte wiki the latest version of the Xerte Page Wizards. This version includes the Model Answer and Raptivity pages (Please note the Raptivity page should work as it uses the same code as the Page Templates version of the page, but as I don't have access to Raptivity I cannot test it further). This release also includes some changes to a variety of pages to keep them in-line with updates to the Page Templates project wide template pages. e.g. the fix for the You Tube page, addition of distractor words to the Gap Fill page as well as optional parameters to allow the user to specify if narration should start automatically on page load. When I have more time I will add the optional parameter for automating narration play on page load to the other page wizards that offer narration. I will be waiting on the next release of Xerte 2 before further updates to the Page Wizards. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com Tue Apr 19 18:01:56 2011 From: Paul.Swanson at harlandfs.com (Paul Swanson) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:01:56 -0700 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The confusion on the version is probably due to the method of checking. If I right-click Xerte.exe, select Properties and then the Version tab, it tells me the version is 2.5.0.33. I'm pretty sure I'm using Xerte v2.15. The file date on Xerte.exe is April 8th, 2009, but XMLEngine.swf is dated January 25th, 2011. Some updates involve changing XMLEngine.swf without touching Xerte.exe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:46 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards Following on from your last email I have downloaded the version of desktop Xerte currently available from the main Xerte web site, which is described as version 2.15. I have deleted my current installation of Xerte, installed this version, created a project based on the Page Templates project wide template and compared all the files this generated with the files generated by performing the same task with the previous version. This is my standard process for identifying changes in versions and the comparison reveals no changes in the two sets of project files. I have also installed page wizards in this new version and tested a couple of them (title page and model answer) both worked correctly. I am not sure what has happened in your installation. Page Wizards only work with Xerte 2.n (that is they don't work with Xerte On-line toolkits), but I can confirm they work with the current version of Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 15:13, Go?i Corral, Leire wrote: sorry the other version was Xerte 2.5.7.1, no 1.5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 20 09:48:26 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:48:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the info regarding version numbering. I had not come across that method of version checking before. I have just checked the details for my installations of Xerte, both on my main PC and my laptop on which I did the re-installation of the version of Xerte that I down-loaded yesterday and they both provide the same version and dates as you describe in your email. So for anyone having problems getting the Page Wizards to work I recommend that they down-load the current version of Xerte from the link on the home page of the Xerte web site and install that. Then download the Page Wizards from the Xerte Wiki Page Wizards Page. This should provide a desktop Xerte installation in which Page Wizards will work correctly. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 18:01, Paul Swanson wrote: > The confusion on the version is probably due to the method of checking. If > I right-click Xerte.exe, select Properties and then the Version tab, it > tells me the version is 2.5.0.33. I?m pretty sure I?m using Xerte v2.15. The > file date on Xerte.exe is April 8th, 2009, but XMLEngine.swf is dated > January 25th, 2011. Some updates involve changing XMLEngine.swf without > touching Xerte.exe. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:46 AM > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: pagewizards > > > > Following on from your last email I have downloaded the version of desktop > Xerte currently available from the main Xerte web site, which is described > as version 2.15. > > > > I have deleted my current installation of Xerte, installed this version, > created a project based on the Page Templates project wide template and > compared all the files this generated with the files generated by performing > the same task with the previous version. > > > > This is my standard process for identifying changes in versions and the > comparison reveals no changes in the two sets of project files. > > > > I have also installed page wizards in this new version and tested a couple > of them (title page and model answer) both worked correctly. > > > > I am not sure what has happened in your installation. Page Wizards only > work with Xerte 2.n (that is they don't work with Xerte On-line toolkits), > but I can confirm they work with the current version of Xerte. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 19 April 2011 15:13, Go?i Corral, Leire wrote: > > sorry the other version was Xerte 2.5.7.1, no 1.5 > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 20 09:50:34 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:50:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86B5A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1E86E26@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> When you click help - about you get the actual version number based on changes to the software. If you right click the exe and get properties, the version number there is the version number of the .exe when zinc built it. The same exe has been used for lots of 'versions'. Help - about is the way to know. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 20 April 2011 09:48 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards Thanks for the info regarding version numbering. I had not come across that method of version checking before. I have just checked the details for my installations of Xerte, both on my main PC and my laptop on which I did the re-installation of the version of Xerte that I down-loaded yesterday and they both provide the same version and dates as you describe in your email. So for anyone having problems getting the Page Wizards to work I recommend that they down-load the current version of Xerte from the link on the home page of the Xerte web site and install that. Then download the Page Wizards from the Xerte Wiki Page Wizards Page. This should provide a desktop Xerte installation in which Page Wizards will work correctly. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 18:01, Paul Swanson > wrote: The confusion on the version is probably due to the method of checking. If I right-click Xerte.exe, select Properties and then the Version tab, it tells me the version is 2.5.0.33. I'm pretty sure I'm using Xerte v2.15. The file date on Xerte.exe is April 8th, 2009, but XMLEngine.swf is dated January 25th, 2011. Some updates involve changing XMLEngine.swf without touching Xerte.exe. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:46 AM To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: pagewizards Following on from your last email I have downloaded the version of desktop Xerte currently available from the main Xerte web site, which is described as version 2.15. I have deleted my current installation of Xerte, installed this version, created a project based on the Page Templates project wide template and compared all the files this generated with the files generated by performing the same task with the previous version. This is my standard process for identifying changes in versions and the comparison reveals no changes in the two sets of project files. I have also installed page wizards in this new version and tested a couple of them (title page and model answer) both worked correctly. I am not sure what has happened in your installation. Page Wizards only work with Xerte 2.n (that is they don't work with Xerte On-line toolkits), but I can confirm they work with the current version of Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 19 April 2011 15:13, Go?i Corral, Leire > wrote: sorry the other version was Xerte 2.5.7.1, no 1.5 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Wed Apr 20 11:20:38 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:20:38 +0300 Subject: [Xerte] . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Drury at port.ac.uk Thu Apr 21 09:41:58 2011 From: John.Drury at port.ac.uk (John Drury) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:41:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] LDAP Settings Message-ID: <4DAFFBE6020000C50002EC43@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> HI I have xerte up and running using LDAP non ssl to port 389. My problem is when I try to use ssl and port 636, I enter a user name and password and get returned to login screen. Something is not right possibly in PHP but what. Regards John Drury MBE IS Service Delivery Team Lion Gate Building Lion Gate Portsmouth PO1 3DJ 023 9284 2235 07540 783291 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 21 09:44:06 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:44:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: LDAP Settings In-Reply-To: <4DAFFBE6020000C50002EC43@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> References: <4DAFFBE6020000C50002EC43@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: What error do you get on screen? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:41 AM, John Drury wrote: > HI > I have xerte up and running using LDAP non ssl to port 389. My problem > is when I try to use ssl and port 636, I enter a user name and password > and get returned to login screen. Something is not right possibly in PHP > but what. > > > Regards > John Drury MBE > IS Service Delivery Team > Lion Gate Building > Lion Gate > Portsmouth > PO1 3DJ > > 023 9284 2235 > 07540 783291 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 21 11:31:44 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:31:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an > optional parameter to specify automatic narration! > > Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and > replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning > objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to > re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a > new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler > to the rlo? > > Thanks in advance for your reply. > > -- > Deborah > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 21 11:35:33 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:35:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic That's probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try and comment them. If there is no comment it's usually a smaller bug fix rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you'll see the files that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be aware of, and can't see what's changed then send me a mail. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Drury at port.ac.uk Thu Apr 21 11:53:34 2011 From: John.Drury at port.ac.uk (John Drury) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:53:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] LDAP Settings Message-ID: <4DB01ABE020000C50002EC73@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> Hi OK, Error is: Sorry that password combination was not correct. Yet using the same details in non ssl mode it works. Regards John Drury MBE IS Service Delivery Team Lion Gate Building Lion Gate Portsmouth PO1 3DJ 023 9284 2235 07540 783291 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 21 11:56:25 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:56:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: LDAP Settings In-Reply-To: <4DB01ABE020000C50002EC73@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> References: <4DB01ABE020000C50002EC73@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: So problem solved? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John Drury wrote: > Hi > OK, Error is: > Sorry that password combination was not correct. Yet using the same > details in non ssl mode it works. > > > Regards > John Drury MBE > IS Service Delivery Team > Lion Gate Building > Lion Gate > Portsmouth > PO1 3DJ > > 023 9284 2235 > 07540 783291 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From John.Drury at port.ac.uk Thu Apr 21 12:04:33 2011 From: John.Drury at port.ac.uk (John Drury) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:04:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] LDAP Settings Message-ID: <4DB01D52020000C50002EC77@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> Hi No, I need to get it to work in ssl mode. The information held by LDAP is correct as shown by the none ssl login, so its something to do with ssl yes? Regards John Drury MBE IS Service Delivery Team Lion Gate Building Lion Gate Portsmouth PO1 3DJ 023 9284 2235 07540 783291 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 21 12:11:03 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:11:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: LDAP Settings In-Reply-To: <4DB01D52020000C50002EC77@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> References: <4DB01D52020000C50002EC77@gw-gwia1.iso.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: Never done it with SSL - can you watch the request somehow? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:04 PM, John Drury wrote: > Hi > No, I need to get it to work in ssl mode. The information held by LDAP > is correct as shown by the none ssl login, so its something to do with > ssl yes? > > > Regards > John Drury MBE > IS Service Delivery Team > Lion Gate Building > Lion Gate > Portsmouth > PO1 3DJ > > 023 9284 2235 > 07540 783291 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 21 14:00:01 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:00:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place available in a new release of the Page Wizards. My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be up to date. I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page wizards. I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in achieving this. // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] .dragDropLabel[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); } The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards use I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the rest of the code could stand unchanged. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney wrote: > Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? > > > > http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic > > > > That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try > and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix > rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files > that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be > aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > Hello Deborah, > > > > Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I > will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next > release. > > > > I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may > be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet > the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no > changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the > PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release > then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. > > > > New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page > Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create > a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page > Wizards. > > > > The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic > narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the > xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the > getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that > implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. > > > > *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* > > If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your > projects then this would be a simple 2 step process > > > > Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply > open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use > FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional > parameter, then save your change. > > > > > > Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. > Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId > script icon. > > > > // Old page version - no auto narration option > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > } > > > > // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != > undefined && > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == > "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > } > > > > The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers > narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard > name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown > earlier would become > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > == "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > > } > > That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first > two lines shown above are actually all one long line. > > > > *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* > > > > If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features > in a Page wizard then you could try the following. > > > > Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder > pages / currentPage > > > > 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its > files to pages / newPage > > > > this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's > .xml, .xwd and .rlm files > > > > 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml > > > > 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage > > > > This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new > code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings > of your original page. > > > > But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page > wizards, one thing could cause a problem. > > > > If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are > NOT optional. > > > > If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter > that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. > To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to > orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be > copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. > > > > Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes > that the new wizard introduces. > > > > Hope this helps to answer your questions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification > if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. > > > > > > > > > > On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an > optional parameter to specify automatic narration! > > > > Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and > replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning > objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to > re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a > new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler > to the rlo? > > > > Thanks in advance for your reply. > > -- > > Deborah > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 21 14:04:24 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:04:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You don't have to have in your xml though. You have separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not Or am I missing something? We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we'll go ahead. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 14:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place available in a new release of the Page Wizards. My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be up to date. I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page wizards. I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in achieving this. // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); } The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards use I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the rest of the code could stand unchanged. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic That's probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try and comment them. If there is no comment it's usually a smaller bug fix rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you'll see the files that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be aware of, and can't see what's changed then send me a mail. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 21 15:09:33 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of Page Wizards. I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages in it set up without in the xml then things started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have > separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not > > > > > Or am I missing something? > > > > We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we?ll > go ahead. > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a > little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects > being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good > idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait > until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place > available in a new release of the Page Wizards. > > > > My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made > officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I > keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line > for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which > highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. > > > > I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to > implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem > is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as > this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. > This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates > and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. > > > > What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken > place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be > updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be > up to date. > > > > I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line > toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in > anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page > wizards. > > > > I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into > how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share > the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance > burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in > achieving this. > > > > // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] > .dragDropLabel[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > nar.play(); > } > > The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards > use > > > > I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for > the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project > wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. > > > > Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page > Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not > need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so > this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the > rest of the code could stand unchanged. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? > > > > http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic > > > > That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try > and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix > rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files > that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be > aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > Hello Deborah, > > > > Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I > will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next > release. > > > > I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may > be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet > the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no > changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the > PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release > then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. > > > > New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page > Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create > a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page > Wizards. > > > > The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic > narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the > xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the > getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that > implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. > > > > *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* > > If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your > projects then this would be a simple 2 step process > > > > Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply > open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use > FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional > parameter, then save your change. > > > > > > Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. > Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId > script icon. > > > > // Old page version - no auto narration option > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > } > > > > // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != > undefined && > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == > "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > } > > > > The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers > narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard > name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown > earlier would become > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > == "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > > } > > That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first > two lines shown above are actually all one long line. > > > > *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* > > > > If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features > in a Page wizard then you could try the following. > > > > Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder > pages / currentPage > > > > 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its > files to pages / newPage > > > > this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's > .xml, .xwd and .rlm files > > > > 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml > > > > 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage > > > > This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new > code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings > of your original page. > > > > But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page > wizards, one thing could cause a problem. > > > > If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are > NOT optional. > > > > If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter > that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. > To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to > orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be > copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. > > > > Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes > that the new wizard introduces. > > > > Hope this helps to answer your questions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification > if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. > > > > > > > > > > On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an > optional parameter to specify automatic narration! > > > > Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and > replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning > objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to > re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a > new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler > to the rlo? > > > > Thanks in advance for your reply. > > -- > > Deborah > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE8D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I remember that, it always seemed a solvable problem, maybe I'm wrong, From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 15:10 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of Page Wizards. I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages in it set up without in the xml then things started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney > wrote: You don't have to have in your xml though. You have separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not Or am I missing something? We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we'll go ahead. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 14:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place available in a new release of the Page Wizards. My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be up to date. I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page wizards. I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in achieving this. // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); } The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards use I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the rest of the code could stand unchanged. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic That's probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try and comment them. If there is no comment it's usually a smaller bug fix rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you'll see the files that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be aware of, and can't see what's changed then send me a mail. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin > wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Apr 21 15:45:54 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:45:54 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of Page Wizards. I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages in it set up without in the xml then things started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not Or am I missing something? We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we?ll go ahead. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 14:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place available in a new release of the Page Wizards. My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be up to date. I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page wizards. I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in achieving this. // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); }The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards use I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the rest of the code could stand unchanged. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney wrote:Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } }That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 21 16:22:51 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:22:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have just performed a few tests. I took the following Page Wizards Summary Image Viewer Quiz For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove the learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with "." so that lines such as align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; became align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; The xwd files were not altered in any way. The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and the wizards used in a new Xerte project. The summary page appeared to work correctly. The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz item was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in the right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When the question option was selected in the left panel the question properties were displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was displayed, there was no link to add a new question. The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of > Page Wizards. > > I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, > though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project > worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages > in it set up without in the xml then things started to go > wrong. There was some conflict taking place. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > > You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have > separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not > > > > > Or am I missing something? > > > > We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we?ll > go ahead. > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a > little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects > being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good > idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait > until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place > available in a new release of the Page Wizards. > > > > My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made > officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I > keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line > for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which > highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. > > > > I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to > implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem > is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as > this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. > This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates > and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. > > > > What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken > place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be > updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be > up to date. > > > > I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line > toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in > anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page > wizards. > > > > I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into > how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share > the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance > burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in > achieving this. > > > > // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] > .dragDropLabel[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > nar.play(); > } > > The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards > use > > > > I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for > the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project > wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. > > > > Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page > Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not > need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so > this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the > rest of the code could stand unchanged. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? > > > > http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic > > > > That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try > and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix > rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files > that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be > aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > Hello Deborah, > > > > Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I > will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next > release. > > > > I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may > be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet > the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no > changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the > PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release > then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. > > > > New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page > Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create > a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page > Wizards. > > > > The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic > narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the > xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the > getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that > implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. > > > > *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* > > If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your > projects then this would be a simple 2 step process > > > > Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply > open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use > FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional > parameter, then save your change. > > > > > > Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. > Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId > script icon. > > > > // Old page version - no auto narration option > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > } > > > > // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != > undefined && > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == > "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > } > > > > The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers > narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard > name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown > earlier would become > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > == "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > > } > > That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first > two lines shown above are actually all one long line. > > > > *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* > > > > If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features > in a Page wizard then you could try the following. > > > > Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder > pages / currentPage > > > > 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its > files to pages / newPage > > > > this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's > .xml, .xwd and .rlm files > > > > 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml > > > > 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage > > > > This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new > code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings > of your original page. > > > > But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page > wizards, one thing could cause a problem. > > > > If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are > NOT optional. > > > > If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter > that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. > To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to > orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be > copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. > > > > Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes > that the new wizard introduces. > > > > Hope this helps to answer your questions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification > if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. > > > > > > > > > > On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an > optional parameter to specify automatic narration! > > > > Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and > replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning > objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to > re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a > new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler > to the rlo? > > > > Thanks in advance for your reply. > > -- > > Deborah > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: For .rml file referred to above read ".rlm" file Perhaps playing a chromatic button accordion is messing up my touch typing! JK On 21 April 2011 16:22, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > I have just performed a few tests. > > I took the following Page Wizards > Summary > Image Viewer > Quiz > > For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove the > learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by > performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with > "." > > so that lines such as > > align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; > > became > > align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; > > The xwd files were not altered in any way. > > The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and the > wizards used in a new Xerte project. > > The summary page appeared to work correctly. > > The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz item > was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in the > right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When the > question option was selected in the left panel the question properties were > displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was > displayed, there was no link to add a new question. > > The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard > appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear > in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. > > I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they > appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I > create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new > question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the > same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: > >> >> Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of >> Page Wizards. >> >> I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, >> though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project >> worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages >> in it set up without in the xml then things started to go >> wrong. There was some conflict taking place. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have >> separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not >> >> >> >> >> Or am I missing something? >> >> >> >> We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, >> we?ll go ahead. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> >> >> I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a >> little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects >> being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good >> idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait >> until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place >> available in a new release of the Page Wizards. >> >> >> >> My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made >> officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I >> keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line >> for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which >> highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. >> >> >> >> I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to >> implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem >> is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as >> this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. >> This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates >> and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. >> >> >> >> What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has >> taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not >> be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not >> be up to date. >> >> >> >> I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line >> toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in >> anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page >> wizards. >> >> >> >> I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into >> how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share >> the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance >> burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in >> achieving this. >> >> >> >> // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> >> //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] >> .dragDropLabel[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards >> use >> >> >> >> I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for >> the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project >> wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. >> >> >> >> Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page >> Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not >> need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so >> this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the >> rest of the code could stand unchanged. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? >> >> >> >> http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic >> >> >> >> That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try >> and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix >> rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files >> that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be >> aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> >> >> Hello Deborah, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, >> I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next >> release. >> >> >> >> I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may >> be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet >> the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no >> changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the >> PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release >> then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. >> >> >> >> New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page >> Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create >> a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page >> Wizards. >> >> >> >> The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic >> narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the >> xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the >> getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that >> implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. >> >> >> >> *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* >> >> If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your >> projects then this would be a simple 2 step process >> >> >> >> Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply >> open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use >> FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional >> parameter, then save your change. >> >> >> >> >> >> Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. >> Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId >> script icon. >> >> >> >> // Old page version - no auto narration option >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> } >> >> >> >> // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != >> undefined && >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == >> "pageLoad"){ >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers >> narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard >> name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown >> earlier would become >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >> != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >> == "pageLoad"){ >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> >> } >> >> That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the >> first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. >> >> >> >> *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* >> >> >> >> If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new >> features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. >> >> >> >> Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder >> pages / currentPage >> >> >> >> 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its >> files to pages / newPage >> >> >> >> this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's >> .xml, .xwd and .rlm files >> >> >> >> 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml >> >> >> >> 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage >> >> >> >> This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new >> code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings >> of your original page. >> >> >> >> But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page >> wizards, one thing could cause a problem. >> >> >> >> If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are >> NOT optional. >> >> >> >> If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter >> that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. >> To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to >> orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be >> copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. >> >> >> >> Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes >> that the new wizard introduces. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps to answer your questions. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification >> if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: >> >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> >> >> Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an >> optional parameter to specify automatic narration! >> >> >> >> Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and >> replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning >> objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to >> re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a >> new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler >> to the rlo? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for your reply. >> >> -- >> >> Deborah >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , Message-ID: Just being odious. Did you do a global search for learningObject after? I have found to my chagrin that something.more and something[0].more will both work in some cases, but in others you get strange results (array vs array index I guess). Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:22:51 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) I have just performed a few tests. I took the following Page WizardsSummaryImage ViewerQuiz For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove the learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with "." so that lines such as align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; became align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; The xwd files were not altered in any way. The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and the wizards used in a new Xerte project. The summary page appeared to work correctly. The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz item was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in the right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When the question option was selected in the left panel the question properties were displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was displayed, there was no link to add a new question. The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of Page Wizards. I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages in it set up without in the xml then things started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not Or am I missing something? We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we?ll go ahead. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 14:00 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place available in a new release of the Page Wizards. My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be up to date. I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page wizards. I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in achieving this. // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]); //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); }The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards use I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the rest of the code could stand unchanged. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney wrote:Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 21 April 2011 11:32 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) Hello Deborah, Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next release. I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page Wizards. The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your projects then this would be a simple 2 step process Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional parameter, then save your change. Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId script icon. // Old page version - no auto narration option if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); } // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown earlier would become if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } }That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder pages / currentPage 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its files to pages / newPage this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's .xml, .xwd and .rlm files 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings of your original page. But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page wizards, one thing could cause a problem. If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are NOT optional. If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes that the new wizard introduces. Hope this helps to answer your questions. Kind regards Johnathan PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an optional parameter to specify automatic narration! Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler to the rlo? Thanks in advance for your reply. -- Deborah This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 21 17:46:49 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:46:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Must be a new usage of the word odious, never used it as an alternative to "helpful" before. Just checked, not so much as a sniff (to keep things in like vein) I wondered if it might be something to do with the code that processes the xwd and xml files to generate and populate the wizard. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 16:37, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Just being odious. > > Did you do a global search for learningObject after? > > I have found to my chagrin that > something.more and something[0].more > will both work in some cases, but in others you get strange results (array > vs array index I guess). > > > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:22:51 +0100 > > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > I have just performed a few tests. > > I took the following Page Wizards > Summary > Image Viewer > Quiz > > For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove the > learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by > performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with > "." > > so that lines such as > > align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; > > became > > align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; > > The xwd files were not altered in any way. > > The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and the > wizards used in a new Xerte project. > > The summary page appeared to work correctly. > > The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz item > was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in the > right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When the > question option was selected in the left panel the question properties were > displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was > displayed, there was no link to add a new question. > > The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard > appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear > in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. > > I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they > appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I > create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new > question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the > same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of > Page Wizards. > > I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I think, > though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a project > worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard based pages > in it set up without in the xml then things started to go > wrong. There was some conflict taking place. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: > > You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have > separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not > > > Or am I missing something? > > We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, we?ll > go ahead. > > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a > little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects > being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good > idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait > until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place > available in a new release of the Page Wizards. > > > > My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made > officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I > keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line > for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which > highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. > > > > I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to > implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem > is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as > this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. > This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates > and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. > > > > What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has taken > place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not be > updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not be > up to date. > > > > I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line > toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in > anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page > wizards. > > > > I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into > how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share > the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance > burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in > achieving this. > > > > // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard > > > > pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); > //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]); > //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); > pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); > > //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] > .dragDropLabel[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > nar.play(); > } > > The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards > use > > > > I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for > the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project > wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. > > > > Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page > Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not > need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so > this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the > rest of the code could stand unchanged. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? > > > > http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic > > > > That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try > and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix > rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files > that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be > aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. > > > > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > > > Hello Deborah, > > > > Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, I > will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next > release. > > > > I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may > be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet > the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no > changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the > PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release > then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. > > > > New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page > Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create > a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page > Wizards. > > > > The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic > narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the > xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the > getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that > implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. > > > > *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* > > If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your > projects then this would be a simple 2 step process > > > > Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply > open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use > FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional > parameter, then save your change. > > > > > > Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. > Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId > script icon. > > > > // Old page version - no auto narration option > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > } > > > > // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != > undefined && > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == > "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > } > > > > The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers > narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard > name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown > earlier would become > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != > undefined){ > narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; > rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); > > > > if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback > == "pageLoad"){ > nar.play(); > } > > > } > > That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the first > two lines shown above are actually all one long line. > > > > *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* > > > > If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new features > in a Page wizard then you could try the following. > > > > Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder > pages / currentPage > > > > 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its > files to pages / newPage > > > > this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's > .xml, .xwd and .rlm files > > > > 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml > > > > 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage > > > > This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new > code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings > of your original page. > > > > But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page > wizards, one thing could cause a problem. > > > > If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are > NOT optional. > > > > If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter > that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. > To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to > orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be > copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. > > > > Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes > that the new wizard introduces. > > > > Hope this helps to answer your questions. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification > if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. > > > > > > > > > > On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. Great to have an > optional parameter to specify automatic narration! > > > > Sorry if this is a silly question: I have downloaded the new release and > replaced the files in my Xerte folder, but, in order for existing learning > objects to be affected by the changes in the new release, do I have to > re-create the learning objects from scratch? The release didn't contain a > new narration handler - wouldn't I need to add an updated narration handler > to the rlo? > > > > Thanks in advance for your reply. > > -- > > Deborah > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Apr 22 08:21:50 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:21:50 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 23 10:02:52 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:02:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Deborah, You are most welcome. Kind regards Johnathan On 21 April 2011 20:24, Deborah Delin wrote: > Jonathan thanks so much for your answers to all my questions and for the > great instructions for adding automatic narration. Your help is really > appreciated. > > Deborah > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 23 10:21:56 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:21:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I am not sure I can relate what you are saying here to a potential solution for achieving a single .rlm file for page wizards and project wide templates. The project wide xwd and xml files that are used in conjunction with an rlt file use learningObject tags. My recent tests suggest that the biggest issue for Page Wizards is the need to include learningObject tags in the xml and xwd files as they then have to be included in any statements in the .rlm file that access the xml data. However leaving out the learningObject tags causes the xwd file (and the xml file?) to fail to deliver the wizard form correctly in two out of the three Page Wizards tested. Is the solution likely to lie with some change to the xwd and / or xml file or is the solution likely to lie in a modification to the file that processes the xwd file and xml file in order to display the wizard? If the latter is the case then there is not much I can do to resolve this. At present I can only produce reliable wizards if I include the learningObject tags with the resulting knock on effect for the .rlm file. There was some discussion last year regarding promoting the user development of new templates for On-line toolkits. One thought at the time was that Page Wizards might provide a route to this, particularly if they could share the same models as those used for Project Wide templates. Has there been any further considerations towards facilitating greater template contributions from the wider community? Kind regards Johnathan On 22 April 2011 08:21, Julian Tenney wrote: > something.else and something[0].else are the same, but not exactly the > same, if there is one something. THey are arrays. if myArr = ['jules']; then > debug (myArray); gives jules, which is myArr[0], but myArr[0] is better, > because it addresses the item, not the array. When things use strings for > properties both work. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > *Sent:* 21 April 2011 17:46 > > *To:* Xerte discussion list > *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) > > Must be a new usage of the word odious, never used it as an alternative > to "helpful" before. > > Just checked, not so much as a sniff (to keep things in like vein) > > I wondered if it might be something to do with the code that processes > the xwd and xml files to generate and populate the wizard. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 21 April 2011 16:37, Dave Burnett wrote: > >> >> Just being odious. >> >> Did you do a global search for learningObject after? >> >> I have found to my chagrin that >> something.more and something[0].more >> will both work in some cases, but in others you get strange results (array >> vs array index I guess). >> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:22:51 +0100 >> >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> I have just performed a few tests. >> >> I took the following Page Wizards >> Summary >> Image Viewer >> Quiz >> >> For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove >> the learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by >> performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with >> "." >> >> so that lines such as >> >> align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; >> >> became >> >> align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; >> >> The xwd files were not altered in any way. >> >> The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and >> the wizards used in a new Xerte project. >> >> The summary page appeared to work correctly. >> >> The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz >> item was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in >> the right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When >> the question option was selected in the left panel the question properties >> were displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was >> displayed, there was no link to add a new question. >> >> The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard >> appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear >> in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. >> >> I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they >> appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I >> create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new >> question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the >> same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >> >> Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 >> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of >> Page Wizards. >> >> I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I >> think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a >> project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard >> based pages in it set up without in the xml then things >> started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >> You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have >> separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not >> >> >> Or am I missing something? >> >> We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, >> we?ll go ahead. >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> >> >> I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a >> little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects >> being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good >> idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait >> until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place >> available in a new release of the Page Wizards. >> >> >> >> My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made >> officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I >> keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line >> for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which >> highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. >> >> >> >> I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to >> implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem >> is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as >> this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. >> This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates >> and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. >> >> >> >> What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has >> taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not >> be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not >> be up to date. >> >> >> >> I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line >> toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in >> anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page >> wizards. >> >> >> >> I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into >> how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share >> the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance >> burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in >> achieving this. >> >> >> >> // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard >> >> >> >> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >> //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >> pgOffset]); >> //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >> >> //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] >> .dragDropLabel[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page Wizards >> use >> >> >> >> I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for >> the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project >> wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. >> >> >> >> Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page >> Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not >> need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so >> this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the >> rest of the code could stand unchanged. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? >> >> >> >> http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic >> >> >> >> That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try >> and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix >> rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files >> that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be >> aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> >> >> Hello Deborah, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, >> I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next >> release. >> >> >> >> I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may >> be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet >> the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no >> changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the >> PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release >> then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. >> >> >> >> New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a Page >> Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to create >> a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page >> Wizards. >> >> >> >> The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic >> narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the >> xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the >> getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that >> implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. >> >> >> >> *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* >> >> If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your >> projects then this would be a simple 2 step process >> >> >> >> Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply >> open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use >> FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional >> parameter, then save your change. >> >> >> >> >> >> Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. >> Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId >> script icon. >> >> >> >> // Old page version - no auto narration option >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> } >> >> >> >> // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != >> undefined && >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == >> "pageLoad"){ >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers >> narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard >> name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown >> earlier would become >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >> undefined){ >> narration = >> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >> >> >> >> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >> != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >> == "pageLoad"){ >> nar.play(); >> } >> >> >> } >> >> That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the >> first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. >> >> >> >> *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* >> >> >> >> If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new >> features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. >> >> >> >> Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder >> pages / currentPage >> >> >> >> 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its >> files to pages / newPage >> >> >> >> this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's >> .xml, .xwd and .rlm files >> >> >> >> 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml >> >> >> >> 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage >> >> >> >> This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new >> code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings >> of your original page. >> >> >> >> But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page >> wizards, one thing could cause a problem. >> >> >> >> If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that are >> NOT optional. >> >> >> >> If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter >> that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. >> To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to >> orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be >> copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. >> >> >> >> Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes >> that the new wizard introduces. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps to answer your questions. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> PS. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Sat Apr 23 13:23:25 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:23:25 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Narration oddness In-Reply-To: References: , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Don't use XOT much, so this may be obvious or has been talked about. Start new proj, add Orientation page. Add narration. Run. Nothing. Add Title page in front of Orientation page. Run. Narration. Maybe narration not available on initial pages? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 23 22:20:42 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:20:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sometimes in quiet moments, or when your mind is distracted by other things, new insights or an answer to a long-standing problem can just bubble up out of your unconscious mind. Which is how it was about half an hour after I posted my last comments. Out of know where I realized what you were pointing me towards. I think I now have the answer to how the Page Wizards and Page Templates / Toolkits can share the same .rlm files. So please ignore my previous posting and read on. The xwd Page Wizard files keep their tags so that the wizards continue to work. The rlm files open with the first few lines shown below ************************************************************* wrote: > I am not sure I can relate what you are saying here to a potential solution > for achieving a single .rlm file for page wizards and project wide > templates. > > The project wide xwd and xml files that are used in conjunction with an rlt > file use learningObject tags. > > My recent tests suggest that the biggest issue for Page Wizards is the need > to include learningObject tags in the xml and xwd files as they then have to > be included in any statements in the .rlm file that access the xml data. > However leaving out the learningObject tags causes the xwd file (and the xml > file?) to fail to deliver the wizard form correctly in two out of the three > Page Wizards tested. > > Is the solution likely to lie with some change to the xwd and / or xml file > or is the solution likely to lie in a modification to the file that > processes the xwd file and xml file in order to display the wizard? If the > latter is the case then there is not much I can do to resolve this. > > At present I can only produce reliable wizards if I include the > learningObject tags with the resulting knock on effect for the .rlm file. > > There was some discussion last year regarding promoting the user > development of new templates for On-line toolkits. One thought at the time > was that Page Wizards might provide a route to this, particularly if they > could share the same models as those used for Project Wide templates. Has > there been any further considerations towards facilitating greater template > contributions from the wider community? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 22 April 2011 08:21, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> something.else and something[0].else are the same, but not exactly the >> same, if there is one something. THey are arrays. if myArr = ['jules']; then >> debug (myArray); gives jules, which is myArr[0], but myArr[0] is better, >> because it addresses the item, not the array. When things use strings for >> properties both work. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ >> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ >> johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] >> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 17:46 >> >> *To:* Xerte discussion list >> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >> >> Must be a new usage of the word odious, never used it as an alternative >> to "helpful" before. >> >> Just checked, not so much as a sniff (to keep things in like vein) >> >> I wondered if it might be something to do with the code that processes >> the xwd and xml files to generate and populate the wizard. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 21 April 2011 16:37, Dave Burnett wrote: >> >>> >>> Just being odious. >>> >>> Did you do a global search for learningObject after? >>> >>> I have found to my chagrin that >>> something.more and something[0].more >>> will both work in some cases, but in others you get strange results >>> (array vs array index I guess). >>> >>> >>> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:22:51 +0100 >>> >>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >>> >>> I have just performed a few tests. >>> >>> I took the following Page Wizards >>> Summary >>> Image Viewer >>> Quiz >>> >>> For each one I unzipped the page wizard, edited the .xml file to remove >>> the learning object tags and any leading spaces, edited the .rml file by >>> performing a search and replace on ".learningObject[0]." replacing it with >>> "." >>> >>> so that lines such as >>> >>> align = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].quiz[0].align; >>> >>> became >>> >>> align = pageIcon.templateData.quiz[0].align; >>> >>> The xwd files were not altered in any way. >>> >>> The modified files were then rezipped into Page Wizard .xcp files and >>> the wizards used in a new Xerte project. >>> >>> The summary page appeared to work correctly. >>> >>> The quiz page wizard failed to perform correctly in that when the quiz >>> item was selected in the left panel, the quiz properties were displayed in >>> the right panel but the link to add a new question was not displayed. When >>> the question option was selected in the left panel the question properties >>> were displayed in the right panel but only the link to add a new option was >>> displayed, there was no link to add a new question. >>> >>> The image viewer wizard failed to display properly - whilst the wizard >>> appears to work correctly, when the wizard is opened spurious entries appear >>> in the left panel as shown in the attached jpg file. >>> >>> I have no idea what could be causing these side effects, however they >>> appear to be consistent across each page wizard. That is to say that if I >>> create two quiz pages, they both fail to offer the link to add a new >>> question. If I create additional image summary pages they each display the >>> same strange entries in the left panel of the wizard. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> On 21 April 2011 15:45, Dave Burnett wrote: >>> >>> >>> Maybe a tag hiding out in an .rlm or something? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:33 +0100 >>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com >>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >>> >>> We looked at leaving out in the xml in the early days of >>> Page Wizards. >>> >>> I can't remember the details fully but I know it caused problems. I >>> think, though could be wrong on this, that one Page Wizard based page in a >>> project worked fine, but once you had a project with several Page Wizard >>> based pages in it set up without in the xml then things >>> started to go wrong. There was some conflict taking place. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 21 April 2011 14:04, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> >>> You don?t have to have in your xml though. You have >>> separate xml files for each model? Then make the root the page node, not >>> >>> >>> Or am I missing something? >>> >>> We are probably due a zip of things. Unless we get any more feedback, >>> we?ll go ahead. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 14:00 >>> >>> *To:* Xerte discussion list >>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >>> >>> >>> >>> I am always a bit wary of changes in subversions in that things may be a >>> little volatile, something being modified may then lead to side effects >>> being found and then further changes resulting. Or alternatively one good >>> idea leads to another and further improvements are made. I prefer to wait >>> until things are stable and then make all the changes that have taken place >>> available in a new release of the Page Wizards. >>> >>> >>> >>> My standard procedure is to take a new release of Xerte when it is made >>> officially available and to create an empty Page Templates based project. I >>> keep a similar project from the previous version and use this as a base line >>> for comparison. I then compare both project folders using win merge which >>> highlights all the changes for me in each individual file. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can then update the relevant page wizard files one file at a time to >>> implement the changes I see in the latest Xerte release. The biggest problem >>> is likely to occur when a significant change to the .rlt file is made as >>> this will reflect code that many different page templates may call upon. >>> This is why thus far I have limited the Page Wizards to the Page Templates >>> and not extended them to cover any of the other project wide templates. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I find difficult sometimes is to identify when a new release has >>> taken place as sometimes the last update date on the Xerte web site may not >>> be updated, or version numbers displayed in the version information may not >>> be up to date. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read in the mailing list of a forthcoming release of Xerte On-line >>> toolkits and am bracing myself now for a new release of desktop Xerte, in >>> anticipation that it may create a fair bit of maintenance for the page >>> wizards. >>> >>> >>> >>> I recall a while back there being some discussion regarding looking into >>> how the PageTemplates project wide template and the Page Wizards could share >>> the same set of files, this would significantly reduce the maintenance >>> burden of the Page Wizards. The sample code below shows the key issues in >>> achieving this. >>> >>> >>> >>> // code from getPageId from a typical page wizard >>> >>> >>> >>> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip(); >>> //myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - >>> pgOffset]); >>> //pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject(); >>> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject(); >>> >>> //rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name); >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dragDropLabel[0].narration >>> != undefined){ >>> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0] >>> .dragDropLabel[0].narration; >>> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >>> nar.play(); >>> } >>> >>> The blue code is needed for PageTemplates use and the red for Page >>> Wizards use >>> >>> >>> >>> I would have thought it might be possible to cover everything except for >>> the inclusion of ".learningObject[0]" insertions by some kind of project >>> wide flag and an if else block that tested the flag condition. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there any way that pageIcon.templateData could be defined for Page >>> Wizards so that it included the ".learningObject[0]" so that it does not >>> need to be referenced every time a call to external xml data is made? If so >>> this could then be included in the above mentioned if else block and the >>> rest of the code could stand unchanged. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 21 April 2011 11:35, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Do you watch the subversion rss feeds? >>> >>> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/feeds/p/xerte/updates/basic >>> >>> >>> >>> That?s probably the best way of being kept in the loop of changes. I try >>> and comment them. If there is no comment it?s usually a smaller bug fix >>> rather than a change. If you keep your svn synched up you?ll see the files >>> that have changed on each update. If it looks like something you ought to be >>> aware of, and can?t see what?s changed then send me a mail. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 21 April 2011 11:32 >>> *To:* Xerte discussion list >>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: . Xerte 2.n - Page Wizards (April 2011 release) >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Deborah, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the idea of adding the optional automatic narration parameter, >>> I will aim to add it to all the page wizards that use narration in the next >>> release. >>> >>> >>> >>> I remember some discussion on the mail list that suggested that there may >>> be some changes to the code that is used to implement narration, but as yet >>> the current version of Xerte still uses the same code. Hence I have made no >>> changes to narrationHandler.rlm. Should there be any changes to how the >>> PageTemplates project wide template delivers narration in a future release >>> then there may be an update to narrationHandler.rlm. >>> >>> >>> >>> New Page Wizards cannot update existing pages in Xerte projects, as a >>> Page Wizard is only used as a source of information by Xerte from which to >>> create a new page, so existing pages are unaffected by an update to the Page >>> Wizards. >>> >>> >>> >>> The changes to a Page Wizard that provide support for optional automatic >>> narration are all within the code of the page wizard (an extra line in the >>> xwd file to implement the optional parameter and a small change to the >>> getPageId code block that adds an extra "if" condition to the section that >>> implements narration) so no change to the narrationHandler is required. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Adding auto Narration to any existing page that offers narration* >>> >>> If you wanted to add auto Narration to an existing page in one of your >>> projects then this would be a simple 2 step process >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 1 - add the optional parameter "narPlayback" to the xwd file. Simply >>> open the xwd file in your favourite editor (not a word processor) - I use >>> FlashDevelop and insert the line below, after the narration optional >>> parameter, then save your change. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 2 - add an additional "if" block to the narration code in getPageId. >>> Do this in Xerte by expanding the page structure and selecting the getPageId >>> script icon. >>> >>> >>> >>> // Old page version - no auto narration option >>> >>> >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >>> undefined){ >>> narration = >>> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >>> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >>> } >>> >>> >>> >>> // sample version from new version of gapFill Page Wizard >>> >>> >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != >>> undefined){ >>> narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; >>> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != >>> undefined && >>> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == >>> "pageLoad"){ >>> nar.play(); >>> } >>> >>> } >>> >>> >>> >>> The bit shown in blue above could be added to any page wizard that offers >>> narration, you would just need to edit the references to the page wizard >>> name to match the current page wizard, e.g. for modelAnswer code shown >>> earlier would become >>> >>> >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration != >>> undefined){ >>> narration = >>> pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].modelAnswer[0].narration; >>> rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); >>> >>> >>> >>> if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >>> != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0]. modelAnswer [0].narPlayback >>> == "pageLoad"){ >>> nar.play(); >>> } >>> >>> >>> } >>> >>> That should give your page auto narration option capability. Note the >>> first two lines shown above are actually all one long line. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Updating an existing page to use the new version of a Page Wizard* >>> >>> >>> >>> If you wanted to update a learning object to take advantage of new >>> features in a Page wizard then you could try the following. >>> >>> >>> >>> Given an existing page called currentPage with its files saved in folder >>> pages / currentPage >>> >>> >>> >>> 1 . Create a new page using the new version of the Page Wizard saving its >>> files to pages / newPage >>> >>> >>> >>> this would give you a folder pages / newPage containing the Page Wizard's >>> .xml, .xwd and .rlm files >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Rename the .xml file to something like orig.xml >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. Copy the .xml file from pages / currentPage to pages / newPage >>> >>> >>> >>> This should give you a new copy of your original page that uses the new >>> code for the page, has the new xwd file but benefits from all the settings >>> of your original page. >>> >>> >>> >>> But a word of warning. This should work in most instances of new page >>> wizards, one thing could cause a problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the new Version of the page wizard includes any new parameters that >>> are NOT optional. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the new version of the Page Wizard includes a non-optional parameter >>> that did not exist in the previous version then the wizard may malfunction. >>> To resolve the malfunction look in the original xml file (renamed to >>> orig.xml above and identify the missing parameters. These will need to be >>> copied into the active xml file i.e the copy from your original page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Whether it is worth updating a page will probably depend on the changes >>> that the new wizard introduces. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps to answer your questions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> PS. Don't worry about asking silly questions - just ask for clarification >>> if my answers are not adequate to meet your needs. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20 April 2011 11:20, Deborah Delin wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks very much for the new Page Wizards release. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 23 22:28:13 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:28:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBD46@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C21BBE1D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBEE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have a funny feeling that this issue was discussed recently and that some changes to the code that handles narration may have been tried out, though I don't know if these changes have been finalised and made available in the current release. I have not experienced this problem with Page Wizard based projects so I have left the Page Wizard narrationHanlers.rlm model file unchanged. However I will be reviewing this situation once the next release Xerte and the PageTemplates files are made public. Kind regards Johnathan On 23 April 2011 13:23, Dave Burnett wrote: > Don't use XOT much, so this may be obvious or has been talked about. > > Start new proj, add Orientation page. > Add narration. > > Run. Nothing. > > Add Title page in front of Orientation page. > Run. Narration. > > Maybe narration not available on initial pages? > > Dave > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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I think you said you were going to wait and see if it was stable before implementing the change in Wizards. I just tried to test in Wizards to see if there is the same "narration oddness" and observed the following. - Narration shows up on first page load, but after advancing to another page and then returning, the narration disappears. See: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2042 (please use guest access) - I am not sure if it is me - I am new at this - or if there is a bug but I can't get narration to show up consistently on subsequent pages. Can you please confirm I only need one narration handler for as many Page Wizards as I want? Please see attached screenshot. I tried putting narration handlers in various places and got very random results. Although I added narration to all the pages, sometimes it appeared and sometimes not (when tested in browser and not just preview). Thanks very much in advance. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: template.rlt Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5642 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: narration.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 41972 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 25 12:04:31 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:04:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness (Wizards) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think Julian may be issuing a new version of Xerte to bring the project templates up to date with the impending update to Online Toolkits in the near future. There are likely to be some significant changes to Page Wizards as I think I have found a way for Page Wizards and PageTemplates to share a set of common .rlm files which will mean it will be relatively easy in future to create a page as a Page Wizard and then to port it across to Online Toolkits or into the PageTemplates project wide template. If all goes to plan this will all get packaged up into the next release of Page Wizards and I will pick up on Narration Issues at the same time. However in the mean time I will try to test out what you say and if I can duplicate it I will see if I can implement Julian's fix in the narrationHandler.rlm. There should only be one narrationHandler.rlm in a Page Wizards project, that is then called by every page that uses Narration. I took a quick look at your website, but was not sure which exercise to open. I will put a bit more time into trying to sort the narration out as soon as I can, but at present time may be short for a day or two. Kind regards Johnathan On 24 April 2011 13:47, Deborah Delin wrote: > Yes, Jonathan, your funny feeling is right: I pointed out this problem > with the desktop version in and Julian was kind enough to send a fix (see > attached) which was subsequently tested by a couple of us and worked. I > think you said you were going to wait and see if it was stable before > implementing the change in Wizards. I just tried to test in Wizards to see > if there is the same "narration oddness" and observed the following. > > - Narration shows up on first page load, but after advancing to another > page and then returning, the narration disappears. See: > > http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2042 (please use guest > access) > > - I am not sure if it is me - I am new at this - or if there is a bug but I > can't get narration to show up consistently on subsequent pages. Can you > please confirm I only need one narration handler for as many Page Wizards as > I want? Please see attached screenshot. I tried putting narration handlers > in various places and got very random results. Although I added narration to > all the pages, sometimes it appeared and sometimes not (when tested in > browser and not just preview). > > Thanks very much in advance. > > Deborah > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 25 21:48:25 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:48:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness (Wizards) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have now tested narration performance for a few pages based on Page Wizards and the only problem I have found with narration is that narration will not auto play on page load when using Opera 11.10. Hence I am unable to duplicate the issues that you have described. *Details of the test* I created a simple test project consisting of a desktop xerte project, with an Entry Frame, a title page, a summary page, a dialog page and a gapfill page. Each page being generated from the latest version of the Page Wizard. I have modified slightly the Title Page, Summary Page and Dialogue Pages by adding the line nar.play(); to force narration to auto run on page load. rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); nar.play(); I tested the project by previewing it in Xerte, and by publishing it and then viewing it in Internet Explorer V8 64 bit and Opera 11.10 . The test consisted of navigating through the pages in order using the next arrow button, and then using the previous arrow button to back track through the project. Finally I moved backwards and forwards between pages. I also used the menu button to select pages in sequences that selected pages that were not next to each other. Narration played automatically on every page whichever way it was accessed in both Preview and Internet Explorer. Auto play failed in Opera, occasionally the narration would start to play and then stop almost as soon as it had started. However clicking the narration play button always resulted in the narration playing. In all viewing environments, for all pages, whatever the route to the page the narration bar was displayed on the page and the play button responded when clicked on by playing the narration file. I then removed the nar.play(); line and tested again. Other than pages that had nar.play() removed no longer auto playing the narration on page load the test results were consistent with the first batch of tests. Kind regards Johnathan On 25 April 2011 12:04, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > I think Julian may be issuing a new version of Xerte to bring the project > templates up to date with the impending update to Online Toolkits in the > near future. > > There are likely to be some significant changes to Page Wizards as I think > I have found a way for Page Wizards and PageTemplates to share a set of > common .rlm files which will mean it will be relatively easy in future to > create a page as a Page Wizard and then to port it across to Online Toolkits > or into the PageTemplates project wide template. > > If all goes to plan this will all get packaged up into the next release of > Page Wizards and I will pick up on Narration Issues at the same time. > > However in the mean time I will try to test out what you say and if I can > duplicate it I will see if I can implement Julian's fix in the > narrationHandler.rlm. > > There should only be one narrationHandler.rlm in a Page Wizards project, > that is then called by every page that uses Narration. > > I took a quick look at your website, but was not sure which exercise to > open. > > I will put a bit more time into trying to sort the narration out as soon as > I can, but at present time may be short for a day or two. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 24 April 2011 13:47, Deborah Delin wrote: > >> Yes, Jonathan, your funny feeling is right: I pointed out this problem >> with the desktop version in and Julian was kind enough to send a fix (see >> attached) which was subsequently tested by a couple of us and worked. I >> think you said you were going to wait and see if it was stable before >> implementing the change in Wizards. I just tried to test in Wizards to see >> if there is the same "narration oddness" and observed the following. >> >> - Narration shows up on first page load, but after advancing to another >> page and then returning, the narration disappears. See: >> >> http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2042 (please use guest >> access) >> >> - I am not sure if it is me - I am new at this - or if there is a bug but >> I can't get narration to show up consistently on subsequent pages. Can you >> please confirm I only need one narration handler for as many Page Wizards as >> I want? Please see attached screenshot. I tried putting narration handlers >> in various places and got very random results. Although I added narration to >> all the pages, sometimes it appeared and sometimes not (when tested in >> browser and not just preview). >> >> Thanks very much in advance. >> >> Deborah >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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I think my problem may be a version thing because the script that you mentioned on the getPageID which relates to narration: *if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration != undefined){* * * * narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration;* * * * rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio');* * nar.play();* *}* doesn't appear in the getPageID script on the learning object I create on my desktop. I confirm that I downloaded the latest version of wizards which you posted to the Wiki on 19/4/11. This is the script on my getPageID: *pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();* * * *//myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]);* * * *//pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();* * * *pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();* * * * * * * *//rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);* * * * * * * * * * * *ts = STYLES.inputSize;* * * * * * * *//icon.parentNode.getChildByName('passage').attributes.textSize = ts;* * * *//icon.parentNode.getChildByName('lbls').attributes.textSize = ts;* * * * * * * *panelWidth = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].panelWidth; * * * *if (panelWidth == "Small"){* * * * panelW = 300;* * * * textW = 440;* * * *} else if (panelWidth == "Medium"){* * * * panelW = 450;* * * * textW = 290;* * * *} else if (panelWidth == "Large"){* * * * panelW = 600;* * * * textW = 150;* * * *} else {* * * * panelW = 760;* * * * textW = 0;* * * *}* If I add the script pertaining to narration to my script, the narration still doesn't show up. Where am I going wrong? Many thanks in advance for your help. Deborah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 26 11:09:07 2011 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:09:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Xerte online toolkit - templates issue Message-ID: Hi I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the feedback option is missing, could it be added? Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. Andy Davidson Centre for Applied Linguistics Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 26 20:17:44 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:17:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness (Wizards) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Deborah, Is there an optional property in your wizard that offers narration? If not, then you can add it to the xwd file in the page's folder (each Page Wizard based page has its own folder. Inside that folder are the xml and xwd files for the page and changes to these will affect your page. Remember changing the .rlm file will do nothing to your page as Xerte only uses that file as information to enable it to build the icon structure for the page in the .rlo file) You can check what needs to be added to the xwd file and where by comparing your xwd file to that from one of my pages in the sample project. If you use my gapFill page as the example to copy from then you should see the code for the autoNarration property as well. Once you have a narration property in the wizard and have added it and assigned a file to it then you can turn your attention to the getPageID script for your page in the icon structure of the Xerte project. Pretty much the last section of that script will be the narration block. You need to copy the block from my page to your page. Best way to do this is to open my project in Xerte. Select my gapFill page and then select the getPageID script and look at the code. Copy the code for the complete Narration section into notepad, just as a temporary measure. Then close my project, open your own Project and then open your page's getPageID script. Then paste in my narration block. Below is an example of the block. The gapFill page with the option to have narration auto play is slightly different with an if { } block around the nar.play(); statement. *if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration != undefined){* * * * narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration;* * * * rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio');* * nar.play();* *}* Note that the blue bits must match the page you are pasting this into. I think for the gapFill page they will read "gapFill" and not "dialog". You can tell what they should be as the code will be riddled with pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].pageType[0] statements, where pageType will be dependent on the Page Wizard used for the page. That should just about do it. All narration needs to work is 1. The narrationHandler.rlm model on the entryFrame as in the demo project. 2. The xwd file to have the narration option so that the user can add the narration property and select a file to be narrated. 3. Code in getPageID to action narration if the wizard has a narration property defined. Use my project as a model to guide you. The Page Wizards are based on pages in PageTemplates. I am not sure if all of them offer narration. If a page in PageTemplates does not offer narration then it is likely that narration has not been included in the Page Wizard equivalent. However even then the above information should enable you to add narration. If you still cannot get your project to work if you want to email me a zipped up example of what you are doing I will try to figure out what it is that is tripping everything up. Kind regards Johnathan On 26 April 2011 11:13, Deborah Delin wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > Thank you for sending me the narration test to try out - I can confirm that > it works as expected when tested. But I am unable to re-create correct > narration on my desktop............ > > I think my problem may be a version thing because the script that you > mentioned on the getPageID which relates to narration: > > *if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration != > undefined){* > * > * > * narration = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].dialog[0].narration;* > * > * > * rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio');* > * nar.play();* > *}* > > doesn't appear in the getPageID script on the learning object I create on > my desktop. I confirm that I downloaded the latest version of wizards which > you posted to the Wiki on 19/4/11. This is the script on my getPageID: > > *pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();* > * > * > *//myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - > pgOffset]);* > * > * > *//pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();* > * > * > *pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();* > * > * > * > * > * > * > *//rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);* > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > *ts = STYLES.inputSize;* > * > * > * > * > * > * > *//icon.parentNode.getChildByName('passage').attributes.textSize = ts;* > * > * > *//icon.parentNode.getChildByName('lbls').attributes.textSize = ts;* > * > * > * > * > * > * > *panelWidth = > pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].panelWidth;* > * > * > *if (panelWidth == "Small"){* > * > * > * panelW = 300;* > * > * > * textW = 440;* > * > * > *} else if (panelWidth == "Medium"){* > * > * > * panelW = 450;* > * > * > * textW = 290;* > * > * > *} else if (panelWidth == "Large"){* > * > * > * panelW = 600;* > * > * > * textW = 150;* > * > * > *} else {* > * > * > * panelW = 760;* > * > * > * textW = 0;* > * > * > *}* > > If I add the script pertaining to narration to my script, the narration > still doesn't show up. Where am I going wrong? > > Many thanks in advance for your help. > > Deborah > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Because unlike other pages that had an option in the form to add a hot-spot to an image, this page worked differently. Hot-spots were added using Xerte's drawing capabilities. Some form of help file that I could have accessed whilst completing the page's wizard form could have explained this to me, showing me how to complete the wizard. This would have been really useful. The issue of helpfiles became even more significant to me the other day. I have been looking recently into how PageTemplates (and presumably therefore On-line Toolkits) and the Page Wizards can share a common set of .rlm files. I think I have found a way of avoiding the need in Page Wizard .rlm files to have the "learningObject[0]" addition to data calls that currently forces the Page Wizard's .rlm files to be so different from the PageTemplates .rlm files. This should result in it being relatively simple to develop a new Page Wizard and to then port it across to PageTemplates or On-line Toolkits, thus making the Page Wizards a valuable platform for the community to use to develop new pages. To demonstrate this I have been working on converting the Inventory Page Wizard for inclusion in a PageTemplates issue (At present the Inventory Page is unique to Page Wizards). It was this that raised the issue (opportunity) once again of having a help file. The Inventory Page lets you define a series of group titles e.g. Auditory, Visual, Kinesthetic. It then allows you to define a series of questions in which each answer option can be allocated to one of the groups. Thus as users answer the questions they build up scores in each of the groups. On completion of the Inventory the user is presented with a graph or pie chart that displays their scores for each group, either as an absolute number or as a percentage. E.g. It might in the above example show the user as 20% Visual, 30% Auditory and 50% Kinesthetic. To achieve the above the wizard form that supports the page has a number of options that take a little explaining. This is achieved in the Page Wizard by having a "read me" script block that does nothing in terms of how the page functions but just contains commented text that tells the page designer how to use the form. This can work in a Page Wizard as users of Page Wizards can access the underlying structure of the page. But as a solution it is a bit crude and not particularly user friendly. More critical is that this method cannot work in a PageTemplates / On-line Toolkit environment, because access to the underlying page structure is not available. Page Templates and On-line Toolkits have a nice feature that is not available to Page Wizards and that is the display of a thumb-print image of the page, to help the user select the right page. This is achieved by having an image file for each page present in a "thumbs" folder. The appropriate file is referenced in the xwd file for each page. I believe it would be useful and helpful to users if we could have another folder perhaps called "help" which contained a simple help file that described how to use each page template's wizard form? The vision I have is that on opening the page's wizard form that the form would provide a link to the help file and that on clicking the link the help file would open in a separate window so that you could refer to it whilst completing the form. If the wizard form was closed then the help window would close as well. What would be even better is if this system could also work for the Page Wizard version so that the same help was available to Page Wizard users. There is already support in Page Wizards for the inclusion of files in a common folder that are then copied to the project's common folder if they are not already present. The Page Wizards could deliver their help file in a similar way. It would be even better if support could also be provided in Page Wizards for the use of thumbnail images, but I realise that this feature is triggered before a wizard form is opened so may be impractical to implement for Page Wizards. So what do people think? Would a help-file for each page would be useful? >From a technical point of view, if the idea is perceived as worthwhile, is it achievable? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards Johnathan On 27 April 2011 14:29, Dave Burnett wrote: > > If you have the .fla open on the menu bar Window > Library or Common > Libraries > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:25:42 +0200 > > From: lgoni at grupogureak.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text > > > no, i'm new with this program and i am trying to understand the code, too > much for me i guess, where are the libraries? can i modify them with flash? > > ------------------------------ > *De:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *En nombre de *Dave Burnett > *Enviado el:* mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 > *Para:* Xerte list > *Asunto:* [Xerte] Re: modify text > > Have you checked the library(s)? > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 > From: lgoni at grupogureak.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] modify text > > I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them in > the XMLEngine.fla > For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words like > try again in some games of toolkits. > wich document do i have to modify? > thank you > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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For right items I used the following script if (myInt.objectDropped == symbol1, symbolx, ...) { feedback.setText("I agree"); ] and for the wrong if (myInt.objectDropped ==symbol2, ....) { f.setText("Try again"); symbol2.animate(x,y,10, 'linearTween'); .... It works fine.... but the problem is - what is wrong for some target areas is right for others and when user arranged all right labels... and was mistaken in one... all right symbols will return on it's place because for this target area the symbols are wrong... Any ideas how I can separate different target areas with multiple draggable symbols? Or just not to animate wrong drag is easier? Thank you Matt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 14:37:38 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matvejs Terentjevs) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:37:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Drag and Drop - Multiple_Items and Mult_Targets Message-ID: Dear all, I am wondering if anyone tackled same problem? I have created several target areas, every with different script for wrong and right dragged items. In the target area dragItems property I typed symbols ( symbol1~leave~0 ) in one target area all right in another all wrong. For right items I used the following script if (myInt.objectDropped == symbol1, symbolx, ...) { feedback.setText("I agree"); ] and for the wrong if (myInt.objectDropped ==symbol2, ....) { f.setText("Try again"); symbol2.animate(x,y,10, 'linearTween'); .... It works fine.... but the problem is - what is wrong for some target areas is right for others and when user arranged all right labels... and was mistaken in one... all right symbols will return on it's place because for this target area the symbols are wrong... Any ideas how I can separate different target areas with multiple draggable symbols? Or just not to animate wrong drag is easier? Thank you Matt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 15:22:36 2011 From: matvejs.terentjevs at gmail.com (Matvejs Terentjevs) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:22:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Fwd: Drag and Drop - Multiple_Items and Mult_Targets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Solved! I think. Just doing "if dropped " function for every symbol separately... sorry for spam. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matvejs Terentjevs Date: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:50 PM Subject: Fwd: Drag and Drop - Multiple_Items and Mult_Targets To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk So basically, is it possible to return on it's place only object which was dragged right now... and not all others which are wrong for this target area? =) Sorry, I think my previous e-mail was a bit crazy ) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matvejs Terentjevs Date: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:37 PM Subject: Drag and Drop - Multiple_Items and Mult_Targets To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Dear all, I am wondering if anyone tackled same problem? I have created several target areas, every with different script for wrong and right dragged items. In the target area dragItems property I typed symbols ( symbol1~leave~0 ) in one target area all right in another all wrong. For right items I used the following script if (myInt.objectDropped == symbol1, symbolx, ...) { feedback.setText("I agree"); ] and for the wrong if (myInt.objectDropped ==symbol2, ....) { f.setText("Try again"); symbol2.animate(x,y,10, 'linearTween'); .... It works fine.... but the problem is - what is wrong for some target areas is right for others and when user arranged all right labels... and was mistaken in one... all right symbols will return on it's place because for this target area the symbols are wrong... Any ideas how I can separate different target areas with multiple draggable symbols? Or just not to animate wrong drag is easier? Thank you Matt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at strivney.com Wed Apr 27 15:31:44 2011 From: admin at strivney.com (Deborah Delin) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:31:44 +0300 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness (Wizards) Message-ID: Hi Johnathan, Well I've done quite a lot of testing of this narration issue and there definitely are some problems. You might like to skip over my testing notes below to the final summary of problems at the bottom. I am going to send you a zip file of my test as it does behave differently to yours and I don't know why that is. You recently made changes to narration on the gap fill and I am wondering if the file you posted to the Wiki might be different to the one you are working with? *Testing Notes* Yes there is an optional property in my Wizard that offers narration but not the added option of Narration Playback>On Page Load as in your wizard. I added narPlayback="pageLoad" to the xml file of my gapfill, as you have in yours, but the added option still does not show up. When I added just the block of code about narration to the getPageID script of the gap fill page, narration still failed to show up but when I deleted all the code on that page and replaced it with all the code on your gap fill page the narration showed up. When I create a new gapfill page the narration script is not there but in the drag and drop labeling and categories pages, the only other types of pages I tested, the narration script is included in the getPageId script. When I add narPlayback="pageLoad" to the gapfill page, the audio file plays on load. When I add it to drag and drop and categories pages the narration does not play on load, but narration control does show up. I tested both your and my narration test in 3 different browsers with varying results. (Sorry there were access problems in the last link I sent but the following will definitely take you directly to the exercises): JK Test: http://www.strivney.com/file.php/58/JK_Test/index.htm Deborah Test: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2043 *Google Chrome:* * * *Johnathan Test: Narration shows up but on page 4 gapfill doesn't auto load on first load but when returning to it it plays then cuts off after a couple of seconds.* *Deborah Test*: Narration shows up but doesn't auto-load (in Google Chrome on desktop narration on gapfill auto-loads but cuts off after couple of seconds) * * *IE8:* * * *Johnathan Test: *As in Google Chrome but sound doesn't cut off when returning to page 4. *Deborah Test: *Narration doesn't show up. *Firefox:* * * *Johnathan Test: *Narration shows up but no auto load on P4. *Deborah Test*: Narration shows up, doesn't auto load and is speeded up and squeaky. * * To summarise the issues I found: - No narration script in getPageID on my gap fill exercise, but narration script on getPageID of other interactive page scripts. - Unable to get narration to auto load on pages other than gap fill, even after adding narPlayback="pageLoad" to XML file - Unable to get added option of Narration Playback>On Page Load in Wizard. 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On the PC you installed Xerte on, doubleclick on the .rlm files and translate any text you find in the Properties, Scripts etc. You can also try to open the .rlm files in a text editor or a XML editor and translate it that way. I think you have to have a grasp of how Xerte works before trying to translate things.... But, judging from the fact that you managed to translate the engine, you should be able to figure this out. Regards, Tom Op 27-4-2011 15:39, Go?i Corral, Leire schreef: > sorry, i only found php libraries, i saw in the code onloadlibrary and > else, aghh qu? dif?cil se hace esto, sorry, i am bad with english, i > will try again > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *En nombre de *Dave Burnett > *Enviado el:* mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:30 > *Para:* Xerte list > *Asunto:* [Xerte] Re: modify text > > > If you have the .fla open on the menu bar Window > Library or Common > Libraries > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:25:42 +0200 > From: lgoni at grupogureak.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text > > no, i'm new with this program and i am trying to understand the code, > too much for me i guess, where are the libraries? can i modify them > with flash? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *En nombre de *Dave Burnett > *Enviado el:* mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 > *Para:* Xerte list > *Asunto:* [Xerte] Re: modify text > > Have you checked the library(s)? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 > From: lgoni at grupogureak.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] modify text > > I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them > in the XMLEngine.fla > For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words > like try again in some games of toolkits. > wich document do i have to modify? > thank you > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text Have you checked the library(s)? Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] modify text I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them in the XMLEngine.fla For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words like try again in some games of toolkits. wich document do i have to modify? thank you This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:54:44 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text i found them, i have the program in spanish, that was the problem, i looked every button, all of them, i didn't found where to change this type of words. De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:30 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text If you have the .fla open on the menu bar Window > Library or Common Libraries Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:25:42 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text no, i'm new with this program and i am trying to understand the code, too much for me i guess, where are the libraries? can i modify them with flash? De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text Have you checked the library(s)? Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] modify text I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them in the XMLEngine.fla For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words like try again in some games of toolkits. wich document do i have to modify? thank you This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 27 17:16:33 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:16:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: Narration oddness (Wizards) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well that gave me a chuckle :-) I downloaded and ran your project and for some reason that I don't know the answer too, when I previewed your xerte project, your audio files narrated at super speed, so I was treated to some chipmunk dialogue. Funny thing is when I opened the files separately in vlc portable they played at the correct speed. What baud rate were they saved at? When I first created the page wizards I based them on the xml, xwd and .rml data from the PageTemplates project wide template. If I remember correctly there were some pages that had narration in the xwd file i.e. the wizard form would offer an optional parameter of narration, but the .rlm file had no code to handle narration. At the time I was just seeking to achieve a set of Page Wizards that were comparable to the page templates in PageTemplates. This will mean that both in Page Wizards and PageTemplates there are some page designs that do not out of the box support narration. For narration to work, as a minimum there must be 1. The narration optional property in the xwd file 2. Code in the getPageID file to support narration (the blue bit is my addition to implement auto play and is not standard to most Page Wizards at this time, nor is it found in PageTemplates pages.). if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration != undefined){ narration = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narration; rootIcon.broadcast('showAudio'); if (pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback != undefined && pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0].gapFill[0].narPlayback == "pageLoad"){ nar.play(); } } 3. PageTemplates includes code in the main project file to action the narration. Page Wizard based projects need the narrationHandler model to be added to an Entry Frame of the project. There seem to be two main problems that you have raised. A. Consistent support in the PageTemplates and Page Wizards for narration i.e. points 1 and 2 above. With respect to the Page Wizards I will be revisiting narration for all the Pages on the next upgrade to add autoPlay optional properties to the xwd files and to modify the narration code to support autoplay. This will result in those pages that have no narration code being provided with narration code in their getPageID scripts. That is unless for some reason the inclusion of narration compromises the page running. The Xerte team manage the PageTemplates and On-line tookits files and I am sure will be interested in the above observations. B) Inconsistencies in performance within different browsers. The PageTemplates do not support autoPlay of narration at this point in time. The addition of nar.play(); to the narration code block, in order to force the narration to play on page opening, may need reviewing. This feature is only currently included in the latest version of the gapFill page wizard, for anyone who would like to test it out. I would welcome Julian's input here. I wonder if for example there might be an issue of timing and a need to ensure that the file or page has loaded before playing starts. I would like to include the ability to have narration auto play if so selected in the wizard. So if my solution for achieving this is part of the problem then I welcome any input that can improve the implementation. I cannot comment further on this. I am not a flash player expert and I am guessing that it may be differences between the versions of flash player that are resulting in the differences in performance. There did not appear to be any problem with narration playing in any of the browsers, only in it auto playing at the opening of the page. The narration play bar appeared present for all pages that had narration coded for in the .rlm file and a narration file specified in the xwd wizard. If there are any changes to the narration code in the next version of Xerte then I will seek to include the changes in the narrationHandler model.rlm file used by the Page Wizards. footnote for Deborah. To provide your wizard with the auto playback option you need to add a line to the xwd file. This will add the optional property to the form. When you add the optional property using the form, this will add the property and your selected value for the property to the xml file. Adding the value directly to the xml makes the value available to your project but does not include it in the form so that you can modify it. Kind regards Johnathan On 27 April 2011 15:31, Deborah Delin wrote: > Hi Johnathan, > > Well I've done quite a lot of testing of this narration issue and there > definitely are some problems. You might like to skip over my testing notes > below to the final summary of problems at the bottom. I am going to send > you a zip file of my test as it does behave differently to yours and I don't > know why that is. You recently made changes to narration on the gap fill > and I am wondering if the file you posted to the Wiki might be different to > the one you are working with? > > > *Testing Notes* > Yes there is an optional property in my Wizard that offers narration but > not the added option of Narration Playback>On Page Load as in your wizard. > I added narPlayback="pageLoad" to the xml file of my gapfill, as you have > in yours, but the added option still does not show up. > > When I added just the block of code about narration to the getPageID script > of the gap fill page, narration still failed to show up but when I deleted > all the code on that page and replaced it with all the code on your gap fill > page the narration showed up. > > When I create a new gapfill page the narration script is not there but in > the drag and drop labeling and categories pages, the only other types of > pages I tested, the narration script is included in the getPageId script. > > When I add narPlayback="pageLoad" to the gapfill page, the audio file > plays on load. When I add it to drag and drop and categories pages the > narration does not play on load, but narration control does show up. > > I tested both your and my narration test in 3 different browsers with > varying results. (Sorry there were access problems in the last link I sent > but the following will definitely take you directly to the exercises): > > JK Test: http://www.strivney.com/file.php/58/JK_Test/index.htm > Deborah Test: http://www.strivney.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=2043 > > *Google Chrome:* > * > * > *Johnathan Test: Narration shows up but on page 4 gapfill doesn't auto > load on first load but when returning to it it plays then cuts off after a > couple of seconds.* > *Deborah Test*: Narration shows up but doesn't auto-load (in Google Chrome > on desktop narration on gapfill auto-loads but cuts off after couple of > seconds) > * > * > *IE8:* > * > * > *Johnathan Test: *As in Google Chrome but sound doesn't cut off when > returning to page 4. > > *Deborah Test: *Narration doesn't show up. > > *Firefox:* > * > * > *Johnathan Test: *Narration shows up but no auto load on P4. > > *Deborah Test*: Narration shows up, doesn't auto load and is speeded up > and squeaky. > * > * > To summarise the issues I found: > > - No narration script in getPageID on my gap fill exercise, but narration > script on getPageID of other interactive page scripts. > > - Unable to get narration to auto load on pages other than gap fill, even > after adding narPlayback="pageLoad" to XML file > > - Unable to get added option of Narration Playback>On Page Load in Wizard. > > Narration issues in various browsers, both with JK and Deborah's tests. > > Phew! I do hope this is all clear...........? Thanks very much in advance > for your patience. > > Deborah > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Thu Apr 28 07:26:53 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:26:53 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06580@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <4DB82F40.8010503@tor.nl> Message-ID: i change some worlds into spanish in the dialog.rlm, i put the new one in the folder modules...nottingham/models/ but when i open the xertetoolkits, the worlds are in english, i try erasing the... "memory navigation?" of google chrome, but it still doesn't work. ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Tom Reijnders Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 16:59 Para: Xerte discussion list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text I assume you're working with Xerte Toolkits (as you are talking about .php) I also assume that you want to translate some texts od the templates 1. Download and install Xerte Standalone, the Windows executable 2. Get access to the Xerte Toolkits installation and find the modules/xerte/parent_templates folder 3. In that folder you find all the available templates 4. For the Nottingham Templates, go to Nottingham/models 5. download the .rlm files 6. On the PC you installed Xerte on, doubleclick on the .rlm files and translate any text you find in the Properties, Scripts etc. You can also try to open the .rlm files in a text editor or a XML editor and translate it that way. I think you have to have a grasp of how Xerte works before trying to translate things.... But, judging from the fact that you managed to translate the engine, you should be able to figure this out. Regards, Tom Op 27-4-2011 15:39, Go?i Corral, Leire schreef: sorry, i only found php libraries, i saw in the code onloadlibrary and else, aghh qu? dif?cil se hace esto, sorry, i am bad with english, i will try again ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:30 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text If you have the .fla open on the menu bar Window > Library or Common Libraries ________________________________ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:25:42 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text no, i'm new with this program and i am trying to understand the code, too much for me i guess, where are the libraries? can i modify them with flash? ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text Have you checked the library(s)? ________________________________ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] modify text I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them in the XMLEngine.fla For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words like try again in some games of toolkits. wich document do i have to modify? thank you This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Thu Apr 28 07:41:17 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:41:17 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06580@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <4DB82F40.8010503@tor.nl> Message-ID: it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you very much ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Tom Reijnders Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 16:59 Para: Xerte discussion list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text I assume you're working with Xerte Toolkits (as you are talking about .php) I also assume that you want to translate some texts od the templates 1. Download and install Xerte Standalone, the Windows executable 2. Get access to the Xerte Toolkits installation and find the modules/xerte/parent_templates folder 3. In that folder you find all the available templates 4. For the Nottingham Templates, go to Nottingham/models 5. download the .rlm files 6. On the PC you installed Xerte on, doubleclick on the .rlm files and translate any text you find in the Properties, Scripts etc. You can also try to open the .rlm files in a text editor or a XML editor and translate it that way. I think you have to have a grasp of how Xerte works before trying to translate things.... But, judging from the fact that you managed to translate the engine, you should be able to figure this out. Regards, Tom Op 27-4-2011 15:39, Go?i Corral, Leire schreef: sorry, i only found php libraries, i saw in the code onloadlibrary and else, aghh qu? dif?cil se hace esto, sorry, i am bad with english, i will try again ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:30 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text If you have the .fla open on the menu bar Window > Library or Common Libraries ________________________________ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:25:42 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: modify text no, i'm new with this program and i am trying to understand the code, too much for me i guess, where are the libraries? can i modify them with flash? ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Dave Burnett Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 27 de abril de 2011 15:18 Para: Xerte list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: modify text Have you checked the library(s)? ________________________________ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:12:56 +0200 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] modify text I am trying to change some words into spanish, but i can't found them in the XMLEngine.fla For example in the slideshow, slide 1 of 1, or the feedbacks, or words like try again in some games of toolkits. wich document do i have to modify? thank you This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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On 27 April 2011 18:23, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > What baud rate were they saved at? > > gads I haven't heard baud rate since I jettisoned my USR modem 15 years > ago. > > Are you working in Dr. Evil's lab or something? > Spinning tape reels on front of a Univac? > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Thu Apr 28 08:09:11 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:09:11 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] categories References: , , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06580@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <4DB82F40.8010503@tor.nl> Message-ID: Does someone know how to do this? i am working with the toolkits, with the categories.rlm archive. i want to change the height of the grey rectangle and put it more on the top, i take a look to the archive, and they are a lot of h, w, x, y, and i am not sure which one modify, and well, i am quit scared to do something really bad. the catcount, desc and the worlds like this give me a big headache. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 28 08:16:14 2011 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:16:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06580@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4DB82F40.8010503@tor.nl> Message-ID: You might like to install the desktop version of Xerte and then use the Page Wizards. The Page Wizards expose the contents of the .rlm files. This would make it relatively easy to play around with changes to the pages and then when you have found what works you could make those changes to your on-toolkits .rlm page. One word of caution though. At present the Page Wizard code has an additional "learningObject[0]" inserted in many of the statements to make them work in a page based environment, so you would not be able to copy and paste changes across from the Page Wizard to the On-line toolkit .rlm file. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 April 2011 08:09, Go?i Corral, Leire wrote: > Does someone know how to do this? > i am working with the toolkits, with the categories.rlm archive. i want > to change the height of the grey rectangle and put it more on the top, i > take a look to the archive, and they are a lot of h, w, x, y, and i am not > sure which one modify, and well, i am quit scared to do something really > bad. the catcount, desc and the worlds like this give me a big headache. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From lgoni at grupogureak.com Thu Apr 28 09:28:49 2011 From: lgoni at grupogureak.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Go=F1i_Corral=2C_Leire?=) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:28:49 +0200 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C1FACBF1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06580@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk><4DB82F40.8010503@tor.nl> Message-ID: i found it, i think i changed all the numbers i saw, but i finally found it. it was a good advice to try all the change in page wizards, it was faster. thank you very much ________________________________ De: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] En nombre de Kemp Johnathan Enviado el: jueves, 28 de abril de 2011 9:16 Para: Xerte discussion list Asunto: [Xerte] Re: categories You might like to install the desktop version of Xerte and then use the Page Wizards. The Page Wizards expose the contents of the .rlm files. This would make it relatively easy to play around with changes to the pages and then when you have found what works you could make those changes to your on-toolkits .rlm page. One word of caution though. At present the Page Wizard code has an additional "learningObject[0]" inserted in many of the statements to make them work in a page based environment, so you would not be able to copy and paste changes across from the Page Wizard to the On-line toolkit .rlm file. Kind regards Johnathan On 28 April 2011 08:09, Go?i Corral, Leire wrote: Does someone know how to do this? i am working with the toolkits, with the categories.rlm archive. i want to change the height of the grey rectangle and put it more on the top, i take a look to the archive, and they are a lot of h, w, x, y, and i am not sure which one modify, and well, i am quit scared to do something really bad. the catcount, desc and the worlds like this give me a big headache. 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In the display page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the feedback option is missing, could it be added? Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. Andy Davidson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xerte issues - Andy.doc Type: application/msword Size: 337920 bytes Desc: xerte issues - Andy.doc URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 28 13:37:54 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:37:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andy, There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a whirl). Does Warwick have a XOT install? I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well Pat On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi > > > > I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to > construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity > option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display > page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the > construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to > add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the > feedback option is missing, could it be added? > > > > Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. > > > > Andy Davidson > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 14:36:10 2011 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:36:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Hi Andy, There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a whirl). Does Warwick have a XOT install? I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well Pat On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi > > > > I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to > construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity > option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display > page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the > construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to > add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the > feedback option is missing, could it be added? > > > > Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. > > > > Andy Davidson > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 28 15:43:02 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:43:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andy, Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the number of right / wrong answers? Pat P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button ?- not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hi Andy, > > There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. > > There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work > if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". > > Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the > categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a > whirl). > > Does Warwick have a XOT install? > > I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well > > Pat > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> >> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >> >> >> >> Andy Davidson >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 16:00:16 2011 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:00:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. Perspective: blah blah blah Product: blah blah Practices: blah blah How did you do? With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. Best Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Hi Andy, Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the number of right / wrong answers? Pat P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button ?- not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hi Andy, > > There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. > > There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work > if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". > > Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the > categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a > whirl). > > Does Warwick have a XOT install? > > I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well > > Pat > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> >> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >> >> >> >> Andy Davidson >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 28 16:54:53 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:54:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if you like into OER repositories such as Xpert (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore it twice. Most academics are new to OER :) Pat On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: > > We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. > > Perspective: blah blah blah > Product: blah blah > Practices: blah blah > > How did you do? > > > With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. > > Best > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hi Andy, > > Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. > > I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give > it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the > number of right / wrong answers? > > Pat > > P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button ?- not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! >> >> Andy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. >> >> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work >> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". >> >> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the >> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a >> whirl). >> >> Does Warwick have a XOT install? >> >> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well >> >> Pat >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >>> >>> >>> >>> Andy Davidson >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 17:03:48 2011 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk (Davidson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. Appreciate this. Sounds like you all do this for not even a free cup of tea. Admirable. From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 28 17:12:44 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:12:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's cool - it's the open source way of doing things (no point building stuff if you don't help people who are keen to use it). Though if you're offering payment in tea, I can send invoices. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Thanks. Appreciate this. Sounds like you all do this for not even a free > cup of tea. Admirable. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 19:20:34 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:20:34 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like: 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah' I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken, J ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Hello, So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if you like into OER repositories such as Xpert (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore it twice. Most academics are new to OER :) Pat On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: > > We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. > > Perspective: blah blah blah > Product: blah blah > Practices: blah blah > > How did you do? > > > With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. > > Best > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hi Andy, > > Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. > > I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give > it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the > number of right / wrong answers? > > Pat > > P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! >> >> Andy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. >> >> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work >> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". >> >> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the >> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a >> whirl). >> >> Does Warwick have a XOT install? >> >> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well >> >> Pat >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >>> >>> >>> >>> Andy Davidson >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 28 19:30:33 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:30:33 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'll leave it for you then :) Unless it's worth me having a look as an experiment in coding (i.e is this a good place to start?) On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like: > > 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah' > > I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken, > > J > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hello, > > So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. > > Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if > you like into OER repositories such as Xpert > (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you > might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your > students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one > has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for > XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this > part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore > it twice. > > Most academics are new to OER :) > > Pat > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: >> >> We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. >> >> Perspective: blah blah blah >> Product: blah blah >> Practices: blah blah >> >> How did you do? >> >> >> With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. >> >> Best >> >> Andy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. >> >> I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give >> it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the >> number of right / wrong answers? >> >> Pat >> >> P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew >> wrote: >>> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button ?- not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >>> >>> Hi Andy, >>> >>> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. >>> >>> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work >>> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". >>> >>> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the >>> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a >>> whirl). >>> >>> Does Warwick have a XOT install? >>> >>> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew >>> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >>>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >>>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >>>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >>>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >>>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >>>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andy Davidson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 21:24:31 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:24:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 19:30 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits I'll leave it for you then :) Unless it's worth me having a look as an experiment in coding (i.e is this a good place to start?) On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like: > > 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah' > > I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken, > > J > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > Hello, > > So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. > > Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if > you like into OER repositories such as Xpert > (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you > might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your > students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one > has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for > XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this > part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore > it twice. > > Most academics are new to OER :) > > Pat > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew > wrote: >> Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: >> >> We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. >> >> Perspective: blah blah blah >> Product: blah blah >> Practices: blah blah >> >> How did you do? >> >> >> With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. >> >> Best >> >> Andy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 >> To: Xerte discussion list >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. >> >> I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give >> it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the >> number of right / wrong answers? >> >> Pat >> >> P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew >> wrote: >>> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 >>> To: Xerte discussion list >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >>> >>> Hi Andy, >>> >>> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. >>> >>> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work >>> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". >>> >>> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the >>> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a >>> whirl). >>> >>> Does Warwick have a XOT install? >>> >>> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew >>> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to >>>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity >>>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display >>>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the >>>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to >>>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the >>>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andy Davidson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte mailing list >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte mailing list >>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte mailing list >> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 28 21:24:42 2011 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:24:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A0658A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Andrew - you too can contribute to the project :-) ________________________________________ From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 17:12 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits It's cool - it's the open source way of doing things (no point building stuff if you don't help people who are keen to use it). Though if you're offering payment in tea, I can send invoices. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Davidson, Andrew wrote: > Thanks. Appreciate this. Sounds like you all do this for not even a free > cup of tea. Admirable. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte mailing list > Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte mailing list Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 21:32:55 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:32:55 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: >You could measure, and give it the maximum available.. e.g. figure out what is drawing the columns and then trap the _ytile value of that last column. Use that _ytile + 10 as the y of the drawn feedback panel. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:24:31 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. > > Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. > > Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 28 April 2011 19:30 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > I'll leave it for you then :) > > Unless it's worth me having a look as an experiment in coding (i.e is > this a good place to start?) > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like: > > > > 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah' > > > > I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken, > > > > J > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > > Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > > > Hello, > > > > So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. > > > > Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if > > you like into OER repositories such as Xpert > > (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you > > might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your > > students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one > > has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for > > XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this > > part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore > > it twice. > > > > Most academics are new to OER :) > > > > Pat > > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew > > wrote: > >> Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: > >> > >> We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. > >> > >> Perspective: blah blah blah > >> Product: blah blah > >> Practices: blah blah > >> > >> How did you do? > >> > >> > >> With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >> Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > >> > >> Hi Andy, > >> > >> Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. > >> > >> I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give > >> it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the > >> number of right / wrong answers? > >> > >> Pat > >> > >> P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew > >> wrote: > >>> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! > >>> > >>> Andy > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >>> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > >>> > >>> Hi Andy, > >>> > >>> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. > >>> > >>> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work > >>> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". > >>> > >>> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the > >>> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a > >>> whirl). > >>> > >>> Does Warwick have a XOT install? > >>> > >>> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well > >>> > >>> Pat > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew > >>> wrote: > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to > >>>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity > >>>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display > >>>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the > >>>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to > >>>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the > >>>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Andy Davidson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > >>>> > >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Xerte mailing list > >>>> Xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte > >>>> > >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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So how they are drawn might be a consideration - right now they might use values you aren't able to work out yet (i.e. at the point when they are being drawn) to do it dynamically. Might need to switch some stuff around... it's doable though - anything is doable. From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 21:32 To: Xerte list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits >You could measure, and give it the maximum available.. e.g. figure out what is drawing the columns and then trap the _ytile value of that last column. Use that _ytile + 10 as the y of the drawn feedback panel. > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:24:31 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. > > Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. > > Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. > > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > Sent: 28 April 2011 19:30 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > I'll leave it for you then :) > > Unless it's worth me having a look as an experiment in coding (i.e is > this a good place to start?) > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like: > > > > 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah' > > > > I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken, > > > > J > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com] > > Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54 > > To: Xerte discussion list > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > > > Hello, > > > > So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code. > > > > Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if > > you like into OER repositories such as Xpert > > (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you > > might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your > > students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one > > has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for > > XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this > > part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore > > it twice. > > > > Most academics are new to OER :) > > > > Pat > > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew > > wrote: > >> Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following: > >> > >> We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task. > >> > >> Perspective: blah blah blah > >> Product: blah blah > >> Practices: blah blah > >> > >> How did you do? > >> > >> > >> With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >> Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43 > >> To: Xerte discussion list > >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > >> > >> Hi Andy, > >> > >> Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me. > >> > >> I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give > >> it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the > >> number of right / wrong answers? > >> > >> Pat > >> > >> P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW? > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew > >> wrote: > >>> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is! > >>> > >>> Andy > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > >>> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38 > >>> To: Xerte discussion list > >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > >>> > >>> Hi Andy, > >>> > >>> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop. > >>> > >>> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work > >>> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs". > >>> > >>> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the > >>> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a > >>> whirl). > >>> > >>> Does Warwick have a XOT install? > >>> > >>> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well > >>> > >>> Pat > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew > >>> wrote: > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to > >>>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity > >>>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display > >>>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the > >>>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to > >>>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the > >>>> feedback option is missing, could it be added? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Andy Davidson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > >>>> attachment. 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In using this page I would assume users just need the following scripting option: Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Fri Apr 29 13:19:05 2011 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:19:05 -0400 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, Message-ID: Is anyone taking a crack at this already? I was going to take a peek but don't want to reinvent the wheel. Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:33:18 +0100 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Message body Ah, I see the problem now - feedback box covering up original page. Ummm, I think that just a bit more room would suffice - though can't provide dimensions. In using this page I would assume users just need the following scripting option: Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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In using this page I would assume users just need > the following scripting option: > > Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: > Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... > Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... > Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... > > > So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney > Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the > trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need > to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for > the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to > put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't > do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a > panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can > see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it > restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could > measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the > measuring mght be tricky. > > Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type > TextArea height 50. > > Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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I could do free cups of tea if that would > suffice... I doubt it would, though. More seriously, I will certainly > contribute to xpert and as I use Xerte I will certainly be offering > suggestions for development. It's a very valuable tool indeed. So, > thank you Xerte developers. > Just letting people know about Xerte and Xpert is as valid a contribution as anything else. If you need any pointers just email the list. Cheers Pat (just made his own cup of tea - can you send me a cost centre?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:33:18 +0100 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Message body Ah, I see the problem now - feedback box covering up original page. Ummm, I think that just a bit more room would suffice - though can't provide dimensions. In using this page I would assume users just need the following scripting option: Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Apr 29 13:59:02 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:59:02 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , <4DBAB449.6070202@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DBAB616.8030809@googlemail.com> categories.rlm nottingham.rlt data.xwd would be the three i would start with - but i would suspect the rlm is where most of the work will be, and just a text entry in the xwd On 29/04/2011 13:54, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Haven't fiddled with XOT for a while. > What 2 (I assume) files am I looking for? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:51:21 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > She is all yours :) > > On 29/04/2011 13:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > Is anyone taking a crack at this already? > > I was going to take a peek but don't want to reinvent the wheel. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:33:18 +0100 > From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > > Ah, I see the problem now - feedback box covering up original > page. Ummm, I think that just a bit more room would suffice - > though can't provide dimensions. In using this page I would assume > users just need the following scripting option: > > Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: > Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... > Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... > Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... > > > So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > on behalf of Julian > Tenney > Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the > trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns > need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave > room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will > be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is > probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't > put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is > important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't > want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the > interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum > available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. > > Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. > Type TextArea height 50. > > Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some > criteria met. > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. 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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:59:02 +0100 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits categories.rlm nottingham.rlt data.xwd would be the three i would start with - but i would suspect the rlm is where most of the work will be, and just a text entry in the xwd On 29/04/2011 13:54, Dave Burnett wrote: Haven't fiddled with XOT for a while. What 2 (I assume) files am I looking for? Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:51:21 +0100 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits She is all yours :) On 29/04/2011 13:19, Dave Burnett wrote: Is anyone taking a crack at this already? I was going to take a peek but don't want to reinvent the wheel. Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:33:18 +0100 From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits Message body Ah, I see the problem now - feedback box covering up original page. Ummm, I think that just a bit more room would suffice - though can't provide dimensions. In using this page I would assume users just need the following scripting option: Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc ...................... So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback Andy -----Original Message----- From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 To: Xerte discussion list Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50. Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Apr 29 14:14:26 2011 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:14:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06588@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F03C3A06589@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , <4DBAB449.6070202@googlemail.com>, , <4DBAB616.8030809@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DBAB9B2.1070701@googlemail.com> Note that i can think of - the quiz has one, but it just appears as text - it might make sense for the text to be above the white flex swf (if there) On 29/04/2011 14:08, Dave Burnett wrote: > > Is there an archetypical feedback box used elsewhere? > Might as well maintain look/feel. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:59:02 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > categories.rlm > nottingham.rlt > data.xwd would be the three i would start with - but i would suspect > the rlm is where most of the work will be, and just a text entry in > the xwd > > On 29/04/2011 13:54, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > Haven't fiddled with XOT for a while. > What 2 (I assume) files am I looking for? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:51:21 +0100 > From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > She is all yours :) > > On 29/04/2011 13:19, Dave Burnett wrote: > > > Is anyone taking a crack at this already? > > I was going to take a peek but don't want to reinvent the wheel. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:33:18 +0100 > From: Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk > > To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > > Ah, I see the problem now - feedback box covering up original > page. Ummm, I think that just a bit more room would suffice - > though can't provide dimensions. In using this page I would > assume users just need the following scripting option: > > Check your answers against the recommended answers given below: > Category 1: Item 2, Item 5 etc etc .......................... > Category 2: Item 1, Item 3, etc etc ....................... > Category 3: Item 4, Item 6, Item 7, etc > ...................... > > > So, just enough room for revealing four lines of feedback > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > on behalf of > Julian Tenney > Sent: Thu 28/04/2011 21:24 > To: Xerte discussion list > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits > > It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, > the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the > columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the > screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based > on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make > them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much > room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over > the interaction, because it is important the learner can see > both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise > it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. > You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more > complex, as the measuring mght be tricky. > > Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic > properties. Type TextArea height 50. > > Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some > criteria met. > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this message in error, please send it back to > me, and immediately delete it. 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