[Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to spanish.

Fri Nov 26 17:28:10 GMT 2010

Hi Jose,

I've no prior experience of doing multiple language support. So at the moment the site is hard coded with English.

If you are happy to work this way, perhaps you could translate a page at a time in a document (with the English above and the Spanish below - highlighting links for example).

Then we could take it from there?

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jose Diaz
Sent: 26 November 2010 17:10
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to spanish.

Hi Pat,

Excelent! ... now I'm pretty clear about who is the right person to talk with :-)

About the XOT Translation:

Can you guide me on to start the translation process of XOT to spanish?

Is there something like .po files to create new language package?

How can I start the translation process?

I can send you "the work" to make it available to your spanish speakers community.

Thanks a lot Pat.

José.

P.D.: How is used to read this mail list often or is it better to contact him via email?

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--- El Vie 26/11/10, Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk> escribió:

> De: Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> Asunto: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to spanish.
> Para: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Fecha: Viernes 26 de Noviembre de 2010, 11:59
> Hi Jose,
>
> I agree with you completely, just keen to make it happen
> even if it means some decentralization.
>
> I'm one of the XOT developers so I am helped to make a lot
> of the current documentation.
>
> Mark runs the Wiki.
>
> Pat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> On Behalf Of Jose Diaz
> Sent: 26 November 2010 16:57
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to spanish.
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I am not sure about using another services like google
> docs/groups because probably will decentralize the
> documentation process of XERTE's project.
>
> I received a reply via mail list from Mark Tomlinson ... is
> he the wiki/server administrator?
>
> Who can I talk with about this translation's efforts?
>
> Language is a big barrier to take projects to another
> countries and the spanish community is very active about
> educative technology.
>
> If definitively is not possible to offer multilanguage from
> wiki.xerte.net, I will try to enable another wiki eith the
> the same info but we need to ask permissions to
> "wiki.xerte.net" content's owners.
>
> The idea is to work collaboratively.
>
> what do you think?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> José Gregorio.
>
> --
> Lic. José Gregorio Díaz Unda.
> Asesor de Tecnologías de Información y Comunicación.
> Tel.: 58.0412.5518085
> Skype: xt4mhz
> Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com
>
>
> --- El Vie 26/11/10, Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> escribió:
>
> > De: Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > Asunto: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to
> spanish.
> > Para: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> > Fecha: Viernes 26 de Noviembre de 2010, 11:25
> > Hi Jose,
> >
> > Sorry but I don't run the Wiki so I can't make the
> changes
> > there.
> >
> > So perhaps a google doc or group works best?
> >
> > I am really keen to progress this as I'd agree that a
> > version in another language would help us no end.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> > On Behalf Of Jose Diaz
> > Sent: 26 November 2010 16:23
> > To: Xerte discussion list
> > Subject: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to
> spanish.
> >
> > Hey Patrick, no problem and thanks for your answer.
> >
> > I think enabling multilanguage support at
> "wiki.xerte.net"
> > would not be a big deal.
> >
> > Take a look to this page:
> >
> > http://wikieducator.org/Main_Page
> >
> > At the bottom left, you will see a small box which
> says "In
> > other languages". Those are links to translations of
> english
> > contents to other languages.
> >
> > Wikieducator uses "sub-domains" for each language. I
> our
> > case could be:
> >
> > - http://es.wiki.xerte.net/ (spanish Xerte's wiki)
> > - http://it.wiki.xerte.net/ (italian Xerte's wiki)
> > - ... and so on.
> >
> > I think this improvement will do a wide visibility to
> the
> > XERTE's project and will enable it to be used not only
> by
> > english speakers.
> >
> > By the other hand, we are interested in publish a
> sandbox
> > of XOT to our faculties but we need to translate it
> to
> > spanish in January 2011.
> >
> > Our university (Universidad Simón Bolívar, located
> in
> > Caracas, Venezuela, South America. www.usb.ve) can
> help a
> > lot with both goals.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > José
> >
> > --
> > Lic. José Gregorio Díaz Unda.
> > Asesor de Tecnologías de Información y
> Comunicación.
> > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085
> > Skype: xt4mhz
> > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > --- El Vie 26/11/10, Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > De: Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > Asunto: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to
> > spanish.
> > > Para: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > Fecha: Viernes 26 de Noviembre de 2010, 11:04
> > > Hi Jose,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the non-reply to my email. I've been
> really
> > busy
> > > putting a site back together again.
> > >
> > > Does the Wiki at present support what you'd like?
> If
> > not,
> > > perhaps a google group / doc? Maybe the google
> code
> > site?
> > >
> > > I'd also say focus on the text for now, and once
> it
> > gets
> > > done I'll have a look at making language packs.
> > >
> > > This is for XOT.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your patience and energy, sorry if I
> have
> > > annoyed.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> > > On Behalf Of Jose Diaz
> > > Sent: 26 November 2010 16:02
> > > To: Xerte discussion list
> > > Subject: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation to
> > spanish.
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > Is it possible to translate XOT and XERTE to
> another
> > > languages?
> > >
> > > How can I focus this effort in the right place to
> make
> > make
> > > it available for others?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > José Gregorio.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lic. José Gregorio Díaz Unda.
> > > Asesor de Tecnologías de Información y
> > Comunicación.
> > > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085
> > > Skype: xt4mhz
> > > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- El Mié 24/11/10, Jose Diaz <xt4mhz at yahoo.com>
> > > escribió:
> > >
> > > > De: Jose Diaz <xt4mhz at yahoo.com>
> > > > Asunto: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 - Translation
> to
> > > spanish.
> > > > Para: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > > Fecha: Miércoles 24 de Noviembre de 2010,
> 10:17
> > > > Hi Patrick and no problem with the
> > > > accent ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Some years ago I did some work with eXe
> Learning
> > team
> > > to
> > > > help de translations to spanish. Mainly, I
> did a
> > > tutorial to
> > > > spanish community to enable them to use
> eXe.
> > > >
> > > > I have not started to use XERTE deeply, but
> I
> > would
> > > like to
> > > > initiate the process translating the
> software
> > and
> > > learn how
> > > > to use it in the process.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think if we setup some online
> space
> > to
> > > start
> > > > this translation process. I dont know how
> the
> > > multilanguage
> > > > support is implemented in XERTE, but
> depending on
> > it,
> > > we can
> > > > find a web-based system to translate it
> > > collaboratively.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen how Webgui (CMS) is doing it
> here:
> > > >
> > > > http://i18n.webgui.org/
> > > >
> > > > Or with "gettext":
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_gettext
> > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
> > > >
> > > > This way, I can invite others to participate
> in
> > the
> > > > translation process and will reduce the
> time.
> > Besides,
> > > you
> > > > will able to use the translations in a
> format
> > which
> > > would
> > > > require less modifications to implement
> them.
> > > >
> > > > I am not a AIR/Flex programmer but I read
> this
> > > article:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/flex/articles/localizing_flex_air_apps.html
> > > >
> > > > And found this help:
> > > >
> > > > http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=l10n_1.html
> > > >
> > > > Both of them to localize AIR/Flex apps.
> > > >
> > > > Bu the other hand, if you have a "Faculty
> Manual
> > of
> > > Xerte"
> > > > I can translate it to spanish. Probably the
> best
> > way
> > > to do
> > > > it is in a Wiki environment or something.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > José.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lic. José Gregorio Díaz Unda.
> > > > Asesor de Tecnologías de Información y
> > > Comunicación.
> > > > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085
> > > > Skype: xt4mhz
> > > > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- El Mié 24/11/10, Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > De: Patrick Lockley <Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > > > Asunto: RE: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 -
> Translation
> > to
> > > > spanish.
> > > > > Para: "Xerte discussion list" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> > > > > Fecha: Miércoles 24 de Noviembre de
> 2010,
> > 6:10
> > > > > Hi Jose (excuse the lack of accent on
> > > > > the e),
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think anyone has started a
> > translation
> > > to
> > > > Spanish
> > > > > (we may have had Dutch and Japanese at
> some
> > > point?).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would suggest sending me the
> translations,
> > and
> > > I'll
> > > > look
> > > > > into making language packs when we do a
> new
> > > version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that ok.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks for your interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > > > > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Jose Diaz
> > > > > Sent: 24 November 2010 04:19
> > > > > To: XERTE XERTE
> > > > > Subject: [Xerte] XERTE 2.15 -
> Translation
> > to
> > > spanish.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm interested in translate to latam
> > spanish
> > > XERTE
> > > > for
> > > > > desktop (Setup.exe) and Online
> Toolkits
> > > > (xertetoolkits.zip)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone started it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is the better way to start this
> > process in
> > > both
> > > > > cases?
> > > > >
> > > > > Even I can publish the translations to
> > > Google-Code
> > > > space
> > > > > but I dont know where and how.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > José Gregorio.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Lic. José Gregorio Díaz Unda.
> > > > > Asesor de Tecnologías de Información
> y
> > > > Comunicación.
> > > > > Tel.: 58.0412.5518085
> > > > > Skype: xt4mhz
> > > > > Web: www.usb.ve - jgdu.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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