Correct, I think you chaps have done a great job of making toolkits much more 'user friendly'.
:)
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:59
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
We take the same view. Toolkits is designed to take away some decisions that you don't want to put in the hands of your users - you can add to styles.css on your server if you want. End users can't change styles because I think the results would generally be poor, or incompatible with all the accessibility stuff.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:57 PM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
I could but I thinking about scalability. The cool thing about XOT is it unlocks the power of Xerte for the whole campus, rather than having to worry about the standalone version everywhere.
it's not a major issue as not many people here would be competent enough to create their own stylesheets.
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Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:49
To: Xerte list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
Could you not just add your styles to the default sheet the LO is using?
Dave
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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:41:16 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
Ah I see, I'll give that a miss, I'll just end up breaking it!
What is an "icon" then? I presume we're not talking the fluffy little boxes on my desktop?!
It might be a nice feature to be able to import additional styles in toolkits to let us web developers make things look pretty :) - surely if css is coded to w3 standard the accessibility stuff should still work?
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:33
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
The icon property doesn't load a stylesheet. It, er, loads an icon...
If you want to load stylesheet in toolkits, I think you'll have to modify the Nottingham.rlt file and put it on the LO icon in there. Use the 'stylesheet' property.
Beware what this will do to all the accessibility options in the bottom of the interface...
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:31 PM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
The only difference I can see is that my stylesheet isn't called style.css (but I presume this makes no difference?...if it does I'll sulk in the corner).
[cid:image001.jpg at 01CA735D.8069A380]
I remoted into the server just to check the css file is in the media dir - it is.
[cid:image002.jpg at 01CA735D.8069A380]
produces:
[cid:image003.png at 01CA735D.8069A380]
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Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:16
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
You're doing something wrong, as your example works for me - see attached.
Do you have FileLocation + 'styles.css' on the LO icon? Can't really see what else it could be.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:12 PM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
Hi Dave
Adding a space after the colon doesn't make any difference. Just to check I copied the example css from the wiki:
link
{
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
size: 12px;
color: #00DDFF;
}
and then linked this to my LO using the icon property on the root learning object page
on an introduction page tried using <link>this is some styled text</link>
publish/view = no style
:(
any other suggestions?
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 12:22
To: Xerte list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
Think you need that space after the colon.
Also, this helps:
display: inline;
Otherwise if tags are nested you get a line break.
Paul discovered that one.
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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:14:55 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
OK, so I've created a CSS file with
niceText
{
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:#009999;
font-size:40px;
}
Located it using the Learning Object icon resource.
In a text area I coded:
bla bla bla <niceText>testing the style</niceText> bla bla bla
published and viewed but the style hasn't changed. Am I doing something obviously wrong?
(I tried #niceText in css and lowercase variations to no avail - I also tried <span class="niceText"> a la xhtml syntax but that didn't work either).
Adam
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 11:52
To: Xerte list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
You can also create your own tags in the stylesheet.
Check the archives for the discussion recently.
Dave
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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:47:53 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
Lovely stuff, thanks
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 11:44
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml
There is. Its in the helpfile:
You can format text with html tags. The HTML tags supported are <a>, <b>, <br> <font> <i> <li> <p> <span><u>. You can also specify a style sheet for the learning object on the Learning Object icon's properties.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:41 AM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] xhtml
Is there any documentation outlining what xhtml tags Xerte will understand? It seems to work with some tags (e.g. <li>) but not others.
Thanks
Adam
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Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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