[Xerte] Wiki

[E.A. Draffan]

We evaluated Wikipedia run on Mediawiki, so if you want to get the ups and
downs of its accessibility it is on Web2access
http://web2access.org.uk/product/6/

Best wishes E.A.

> Apparently Mediawiki is :  "almost accessible for blind users"
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> http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Mediawiki_and_Accessibility
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> The main issue I believe centres around the use of Captcha.  The one I
> integrated does not use the visual verification method, but asks the user
> to
> solve a simple maths problem.  I would assume that a screen reader could
> read this, but I have not tested it.
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> Mark
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
> McNaught
> Sent: 28 April 2009 21:09
> To: Julian Tenney; ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk; Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> Hi all
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> Just catching up with this thread.
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> I agree that a collaborative area for creating support materials is a
> great
> idea but I think we ought to exercise some caution before making any
> single
> place the centre of the universe J
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> My main concerns are
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> 1)      Vandalism /spamming etc. We love Xerte but if I was a commercial
> developer making a tidy income from selling overpriced underfeatured
> software I might not love the threat Xerte provided to my income. I
> suggest
> that some sort of 'trusted status' should be applied for access to the
> main
> support materials.
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> 2)      Horses for courses - MediaWiki is fine and dandy for coders but if
> we wanted to set up an area where teaching practitioners could share
> ideas,
> applications, examples, simple questions etc we'd need a much simpler
> system. I'm an experienced Tiddlywiki user but looking at the help pages
> on
> formatting and conventions made me think. I can't be bothered. I haven't
> got
> time to remember some obscure code convention for placing an image on the
> page or italicising text.
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> 3)      Accessibility - it would be embarrassing if the much vaunted (by
> us
> at any rate) accessibility features of Xerte were documented on an
> inaccessible wiki page. I've not yet had a chance to get a screenreader
> user
> to test the page but I certainly wouldn't want to push this out before
> having done so. There are 14 tests for assessing the accessibility of web2
> services (see www.web2access.org.uk) and I'd want to be sure we could meet
> most of them before putting my name to a Xerte centre of the universe.
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> Certainly the wiki could be invaluable at putting together the
> specifications for training and support materials - and it may well be
> appropriate for hosting the materials themselves but I think there needs
> to
> be rather more debate on the matter and this might be the sort of thing
> that
> is thrashed out in relation to the XPERT project meeting in May.
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> Alistair
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> From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 28 April 2009 12:22
> To: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk; Alistair McNaught
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> I think we should concentrate on making wiki.xerte.net the centre of the
> known universe. We need all the documentation - from us, from the xpert
> project, from other contributers to live in one place where it can easily
> be
> updated and maintained.
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:11 PM
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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>
> Apologies if this comes through twice but I sent this at 10.40 this
> morning
> and it hasn't appeared on the list yet. L
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> Hi Julian
>
> Apologies for not responding sooner - was delivering Toolkits training all
> day yesterday.
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>
> When we were discussing the use of a wiki off-list recently I was thinking
> that would be for developing the spec for the support material rather than
> the actual support material. But as has been suggested subsequently an
> installation of MediaWiki might do both
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki as an example a lot of the moodle
> documentation is provided via MediaWiki
> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Main_Page
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> Ron
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 28 April 2009 10:49
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> I did quite a bit on www.installationwiki.org re toolkits guidance, and
> then
> some spammer wrecked it and all my work got deleted.
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Tomlinson
> Sent: 28 April 2009 10:49
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> I'll see what I can do..
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 28 April 2009 10:38
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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>
> I made an account as well, but my inner pedant says Captcha?
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Tomlinson
> Sent: 28 April 2009 09:44
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> Jules
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> I think people can simply create their own accounts??
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> Anyone an expert on media wiki on the list??
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> Mark
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 27 April 2009 21:25
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> I think there needs to be documentation for people developing the
> software,
> and documentation for people using the software. It could be in the same
> place, or in different places as the two groups will have quite different
> requirements. Googlecode happened to have a convenient wiki which is what
> Pat has started to use today. Sourceforge have also just approved my
> project
> request, so now is a good time for us to decide google code or sourceforge
> once and for all. I might set up a project on soirceforge anyway adn then
> we
> can vote or something. You can see the google code pages already. I like
> the
> simplicity a lot - it fits well with our FWS design principles for the
> software itself.
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>
> Mark - how would we add users to the wiki you set up? That (or something
> similar) should probably host the bulk of the user docs, and be the one
> place for info on using Xerte in its various forms. I would love it if
> someone were to step forward and take on managing that space.
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> We have several people primed to start creating documentation and I'm keen
> it doesn't become fragmented.
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> Alistair and Ron: would a wiki meet your needs? wiki.xerte.net in
> particular.
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> J
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 19:10
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
>
> 10 repositories.
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> 1 for those that speak binary, 1 for those that don't - or grom my take so
> far on the installs of XOT, we have the sysadmin types who would want the
> scope to do whatever they wanted, and the dabblers who want something a
> little more light.
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett
> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 17:22
> To: Xerte list
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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> Totally your call, but I'm not sure about the facility of splitting
> locations...
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>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
>> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:09:40 +0100
>> From: Patrick.Lockley at nottingham.ac.uk
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>
>> Can do both - I see the google one as the trouble shooter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark
>> Tomlinson
>> Sent: 27 April 2009 17:06
>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki
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>> I spoke to Julian about this a while back and I did set one up then on:
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>> http://wiki.xerte.net
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>> I never got round to publicising it though :-(
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 27 April 2009 17:01
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Wiki
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>> http://code.google.com/p/xerte/w/list
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>> Your wish is our command, if your wishes are based primarily on wikis
>> that is :)
>>
>> Patrick Lockley
>> IS Learning Team
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