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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can we please keep the discussion in the open? I’d appreciate other’s points of view. Sometimes there is a good reason to take the discussion off list, but we ought to be discussing in the open otherwise. We
can’t function well as a community if people are not aware of what is being discussed and have an opportunity to contribute. If we would prefer to have a private list, rather than a public list for this then we can discuss that, but I don’t see what’s wrong
with discussing general developments in public. It shows people who are interested that activity is going on, and even provides the means for them to contribute. It is defined in our governance policy:
<a href="https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/wiki/6.-Decision-Making-Process">
https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/wiki/6.-Decision-Making-Process</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">From my point of view the confusing part is ‘Tree/Tracking label’. Users do not know what that means. They probably don’t know what tree we refer to. They may not be using, or interested, in tracking. They want
to make a quiz out of questions and answers, that’s the feedback I’m getting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders@tor.nl]
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<b>Sent:</b> 08 September 2017 10:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Tenney Julian <cczjrt@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte-dev] Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I think the confusing part is the A<br>
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So although I understand that we want to keep these texts short, I think we should change it to Answer - Tree/Tracking label, or if you prefer Answer label<br>
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Same holds for other similar labels like Q - Tree/Tracking label of course.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 8-9-2017 om 11:27 schreef Julian Tenney:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We’ve had some comments from users saying they don’t understand the ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’ string in the label field. I tend to agree this fails the FWS test. I don’t have any problem with the functionality as such, I can see it’s useful,
but I think we need to change the string in the label field. ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’ is not intuitive, and I’ve had some ‘huh?’ emails from some reasonably adept users about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the past we had ‘question’ and ‘option’, which led to the tree view like…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Question<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Option<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Having the ability to control how the tree looks is an improvement on this, although we now have the same situation (albeit editable) where you produce this:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q - Tree/Tracking label<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>A - Tree/Tracking label<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Q - Tree/Tracking label<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt">etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This in my view is worse than what we had before. People know what a ‘question’ and an ‘option’ are. They haven’t the faintest idea what ‘A - Tree/Tracking label’ means, so I would favour taking it back to ‘question’ and ‘option’.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Better would be if we could auto-increment the items as they are added so you get<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question1<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Option1<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt">etc<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">…but I don’t think we have that functionality anywhere in the editor at present. If we added a property to the xwd to say <blah… …increment=”true”/> presumably it wouldn’t be too difficult to add that functionality, and just add n to the
end of the string based on a count of the children.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Julian<o:p></o:p></p>
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