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    Ok. I can understand that. So...<br>
    <br>
    - I cannot change the name of the option (anymore) as this would
    break older LO's, otherwise we should call it 'label' in stead of
    'name'<br>
    - The attribute 'name' is currently always put as the first field in
    the wizard form, as this used to be the title<br>
    <br>
    I created a prototype where I make a distinction between 'name'
    fields with wysiwyg enabled and 'name'  fields with wysiwyg disabled
    and I changed the default text inside of those fields:<br>
    <br>
     - So the Label field will no longer be the first field on the form<br>
     - It states it's a tree/tracking label<br>
    <br>
    What do you think?<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 7-6-2017 om 11:20 schreef Fay Cross:<br>
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            style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That’s fine
            Tom but I agree with Ron when he says we need to make it
            more obvious what the label field is for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Every
            single time I create a quiz page I write the question and
            options in the label fields (as the default text in these
            boxes says ‘question’ & ‘option’) and then when I
            preview I just see ‘Here is a prompt’ & lots of ‘here is
            an option’. I know I should have learnt by now that this is
            not what to do but for some reason my brain does not accept
            that the question doesn’t get written where it says
            question! I’m sure lots of new users must get confused by
            this too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 08:54<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers' <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Tracking and the use of
                labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yeah
            hope the trip to Philly has proved worthwhile!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’d
            make the following comments about labels…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sounds
            like a good plan to have plain text only labels for tracking
            etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Obviously
            needs to work with existing projects without needing loads
            of manual edits e.g. authors should only need to edit/rename
            when they want the management/tracking benefits of doing so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ideally
            we should have a way of visually showing in the tree/editor
            what icons/fields aren’t shown on the pages of the LO and
            only used for tree clarity and tracking purposes etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Does
            this have implications for the other project templates too?
            I know we don’t have tracking etc in those but for
            consistency/clarity e.g. new users are often confused about
            the icons/fields in the other templates and which are tree
            only and which appear on pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-US"> <a
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 07:47<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a
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                <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Tracking and the use of
                labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p><span style="color:black">I don't see any problem with that
              Tom. I hope you guys are having a good time at the
              conference!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p><span style="color:black">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    on behalf of Tom Reijnders <<a
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                    <b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 02:41<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a
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                    <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Tracking and the use of
                    labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options</span><span
                    style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Hi all,<br>
                  <br>
                  There are some inconsistencies and I think
                  misunderstandings about the <br>
                  usefullness of labels to name items in the page tree
                  of the Nottingham <br>
                  template. I want us to agree on the use of those,
                  before I go over all <br>
                  the interactivities again to add them.<br>
                  <br>
                  1. First of all, these labels were added to make
                  authoring/maintenance <br>
                  easier, i.e. to give a label to the tree nodes of the
                  tree. So if you <br>
                  have a quiz with 5 questions, you can quickly identify
                  the questions by <br>
                  labeling them.<br>
                  2. I noticed that for the tracking code, it's also
                  very usefull to have <br>
                  these labels in place, and to use these instead of for
                  eaxmple the <br>
                  questions and/or option texts themselves. There are
                  two reasons for that:<br>
                        - The questions and options (and other elements)
                  can be html5 <br>
                  formatted, and SCORM and xAPI do not particularly like
                  html5 formatted <br>
                  texts.<br>
                        - Sometimes thte questions and/or options (or
                  any other elements) <br>
                  consist of only an image, and I cannot use that for
                  tracking.<br>
                  <br>
                  So I would like to propose to add labels to facilitate
                  authoring (or <br>
                  more specifically make maintenance of the content
                  easier) and also use <br>
                  these labels in the tracking code.<br>
                  <br>
                  Any comments/additions/objections/alternatives are
                  very welcome!<br>
                  <br>
                  Regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  Tom<br>
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