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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That’s fine Tom but I agree with Ron when he says we need to make it more obvious what the label field is for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Every single time I create a quiz page I write the question and options in the label fields (as the default text in these boxes says ‘question’ & ‘option’) and then when I preview I
just see ‘Here is a prompt’ & lots of ‘here is an option’. I know I should have learnt by now that this is not what to do but for some reason my brain does not accept that the question doesn’t get written where it says question! I’m sure lots of new users
must get confused by this too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 08:54<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers' <xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Tracking and the use of labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yeah hope the trip to Philly has proved worthwhile!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’d make the following comments about labels…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sounds like a good plan to have plain text only labels for tracking etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Obviously needs to work with existing projects without needing loads of manual edits e.g. authors should only need to edit/rename when they want the management/tracking benefits of doing so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ideally we should have a way of visually showing in the tree/editor what icons/fields aren’t shown on the pages of the LO and only used for tree clarity and tracking purposes etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Does this have implications for the other project templates too? I know we don’t have tracking etc in those but for consistency/clarity e.g. new users are often confused about the icons/fields in
the other templates and which are tree only and which appear on pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">
xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 07:47<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Tracking and the use of labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">I don't see any problem with that Tom. I hope you guys are having a good time at the conference!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> <<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>> on behalf of Tom Reijnders <<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl">reijnders@tor.nl</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 02:41<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Tracking and the use of labels/names in sub-pages like questions and options</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Hi all,<br>
<br>
There are some inconsistencies and I think misunderstandings about the <br>
usefullness of labels to name items in the page tree of the Nottingham <br>
template. I want us to agree on the use of those, before I go over all <br>
the interactivities again to add them.<br>
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1. First of all, these labels were added to make authoring/maintenance <br>
easier, i.e. to give a label to the tree nodes of the tree. So if you <br>
have a quiz with 5 questions, you can quickly identify the questions by <br>
labeling them.<br>
2. I noticed that for the tracking code, it's also very usefull to have <br>
these labels in place, and to use these instead of for eaxmple the <br>
questions and/or option texts themselves. There are two reasons for that:<br>
- The questions and options (and other elements) can be html5 <br>
formatted, and SCORM and xAPI do not particularly like html5 formatted <br>
texts.<br>
- Sometimes thte questions and/or options (or any other elements) <br>
consist of only an image, and I cannot use that for tracking.<br>
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So I would like to propose to add labels to facilitate authoring (or <br>
more specifically make maintenance of the content easier) and also use <br>
these labels in the tracking code.<br>
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Any comments/additions/objections/alternatives are very welcome!<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tom<br>
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