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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes to projects, I was already doing that a bit: I wanted to tidy up the text / presentation in the central panel and had used the word ‘projects’ in there, not files. I was just going to have another crack at
it actually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 14:11<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">No strong argument here either especially as we've always had that create pnale on the right.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not unrelated to all this I've had some suggestions that the language used is inconsistent e.g. in different areas of text in the workspace and properties panels we refer to
</span><span style="color:red">Projects</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> (or LO's as we know them) as
</span><span style="color:red">Projects</span><span style="color:#1F497D">, </span>
<span style="color:red">Files</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> and </span><span style="color:red">Templates</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> e.g. see everything in red in the list below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My suggestion is that we make everything in red say project. In some case this will need to take account of singular or plural e.g.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">People who subscribe to the feeds will see new
</span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> as it as added to the feeds.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Would need to change to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">People who subscribe to the feeds will see new
</span><span style="color:red">projects</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> as </span>
<span style="color:red">they are</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> added to the feeds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tom: I'm assuming this is best done via the translation tool?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I'm happy to undertake this if we agree and you can provide me with access.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In workspace:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">Project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> name: my test<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> was created on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> was modified on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is currently set as Private<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is not shared<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To allow other people to access this
</span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D">…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This code will allow you to embed your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> into a web page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is currently using…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Via properties:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">Project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> name<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> was created…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> was modified…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To allow other people to access this file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This code will allow you to embed your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> into a web page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is currently using 0.49 MB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">file</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is currently set as Public<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The </span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> will be visible to anyone on the internet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The </span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> will be visible to people with an account on this system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Using this setting restricts access to your
</span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D">. Your </span>
<span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> will only be visible to people following links to your
</span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> from the site you provide. This makes your
</span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> visible to editors only.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To share this </span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> with some one, please type their name here. The user must have an account on the site to appear in this search.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This </span><span style="color:red">template</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is not shared<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Include this </span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the RSS Feeds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Including </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the export feed allows other users to download your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> and make changes to it themselves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please add a useful description for your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the box below and press the Save button.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">You can include this </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the site's RSS feeds. People who subscribe to the feeds will see new
</span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> as it as added to the feeds. There are several feeds available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This includes all </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> marked for inclusion from the site's users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This only includes the </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> you have marked for inclusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As you organise </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in folders, each folder has it's own RSS feed. This provides a convenient way to include only some of your
</span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in a feed. See the folder properties for more details, and the link to that folder's feed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Including </span><span style="color:red">content</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the export feed allows other users to download your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> and make changes to it themselves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This tab allows you to include to
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the site's open courseware list. Open Courseware is a set of learning materials that institutions have made publically available for any one to use. The address for this site's syndicated
content is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Include this </span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> in the Open Courseware Feed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please choose a category for your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please choose a licence for your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please provide a description for your
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please provide a list of comma separated keywords for this
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">There are several ways to export a
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D">. An exported
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> is packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export
all of the </span><span style="color:red">project's</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> files, or just those files used by the
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In this section you can set up the peer review for one of your
</span><span style="color:red">projects</span><span style="color:#1F497D">. This allows you to send a password protected link to staff, allowing them to access a
</span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D">, and then giving them the facility to email you feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To give this </span><span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> to someone, please type their name here. The user must have an account on the site to appear in this search<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In this section you can set up the XML Sharing for one of your
</span><span style="color:red">projects</span><span style="color:#1F497D">. Your </span>
<span style="color:red">project</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> must be published for this to work. This allows your work to be used in other systems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 13:11<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I would layout the panels in the opposite direction but for the same reason as you... when you log in for the first time what do you want to do? Create a project - so that
should be on the left. You can only edit projects once you've already created some.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I don't think it's all particularly confusing the way it is now though so aren't going to argue too hard for this!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 13:00<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do we want to address this layout stuff before the release?
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Personally I would like to. I think we can improve on what we have. But this is rapidly growing arms and legs as a problem, and based on my experience this morning, I am not going to be the best person to work
it all through.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">For what it’s worth, I prefer the new projects stuff on the right, because in the left-to-right information flow, the user’s projects are presented to the user first, which is most likely what they want. The
workspace is generally more important to me than the create panel. This is holy war stuff though, I appreciate that!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:45<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I think it would make sense to have create new project stuff on the left instead</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:41<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">While we're talking about possible changes it occurred to me there might be a more radical change that sort of follows the workflow…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Step 1. Create a new project goes to the left</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Step 2. Manage/edit projects goes center</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Step 3. Project info goes right and is collapsible</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Probably too radical given what we've always had but just a thought!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Also by coincidence copied an old install from one server to another yesterday and was reminded what we used to have and now looks ancient!...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="726" height="630" id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:29<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Or, if one of the problems is that the left panel has to be quite wide to fit the buttons on, could we use icons for buttons like in the editor (delete, duplicate, publish...)
instead of traditional buttons?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:20<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I was wondering if the centre panel could be merged with the left one some how rather than being separate
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:14<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorting the layout is still problematic.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m starting to think the central panel is creating more layout issues than the usability it resolves. Should we consider either rethinking where you get the summary information from, and losing that central
panel?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would like to be able to </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Put the buttons in the header of the left panel; put the sort and search in the footer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Insist that the left panel can never get to narrow to display those correctly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Perhaps the project templates panel should always be a fixed width, let the projects pane take the rest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is this worth talking through and getting some agreement before we start changing anything else? Time is running through my fingers here and I’m not achieving very much.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 12:03<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Duh.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:58<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Has to be caching. It fires for me.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 17-7-2015 om 12:56 schreef Julian Tenney:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Which is where I’ve worked my way to, but still can’t get this alert to fire</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="711" height="283" id="_x0000_i1031" src="cid:image003.png@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:52<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Strange, because it's really called on line 609<br>
Caching?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 17-7-2015 om 12:48 schreef Julian Tenney:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:47<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yeah, I found it, not sure what happened there. If I make the first line of that function an alert(“setting”); it never fires (at least I never see the alert).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Where do I set the initial sizes / percentages, and a minimum width?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:44<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Line 618?<br>
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Some of the static values set in setupMainLayout are overridden by dynamicResize()<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 17-7-2015 om 12:41 schreef Julian Tenney:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If I search for ‘dynamicResize’ in that file, nothing is found.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">There appear to be a load of settings for initialising the layout, but changing them doesn’t appear to make any difference to anything, in setupMainLayout().</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:35<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Look at dynamicResize in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 17-7-2015 om 12:14 schreef Ron Mitchell:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">While you're searching ;-) try to find where the extra slash is added which breaks the bootstrap media links
<a href="https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352" target="_blank">
https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:06<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is where time just disappears for me trying to do this stuff, I have to resort to searching for class names in all the files to find references, and then try and unpick what’s doing what and all I want to
do is set three minimum widths and three initial widths. That should be six lines of code, preferably in the same place, and it should take two minutes to change. Here I am an hour later…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 11:04<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I don't think anything's minified (but I also don't know my way around the workspace stuff to advise where to change stuff either)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fair dos.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m not sure whether the jquery layout stuff has source files, and then a minified runtime file? I can find some setup info, but changing anything doesn’t change anything.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 10:59<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not sure without looking. Busy with something more urgent right now but can have a look later if you haven't found it by then.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Want to test Fay's additions too but non-xerte stuff to finish first. :-(</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 10:50<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do you know how to set the initial width of the panels?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can we apply a minimum width to prevent folk making it too narrow? (less important)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 10:36<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Aside from closing the 6 issues we currently have on github flagged as v3 release personally I think the most important thing with this is getting a panel of logos complete with links in the footer somewhere.
I don't think your solution of adding the OSI logo alongside the Apereo logo top right is the right solution for 2 reasons:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1. The vast majority of organisations using Xerte that I know of (and I'm sure Tom echos this) want their own logo either top right or top left. We have a built-in solution for that but it means one or other
of the 'official' logos get removed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">2. Ideally I think we want each of the logos to also link off to the relevant site pages.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The CSS isn't right, especially the logos, but something like this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="910" height="578" id="_x0000_i1034" src="cid:image005.jpg@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2015 09:16<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not sure authoring on phones is viable though? My Asus transformer has 800 px width; the iPad 750, which ought to be plenty. Do we want to progress looking at this before we release the code? I’m happy to do
the work, but find it a bit slow picking through the code / implications for languages, and I’m a bit time limited over the next few weeks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Perhaps make it a 3.1 thing and get concentrate on getting v3.0 out the door</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 17:06<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">> How wide is portrait view on a tablet?<</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What tablet? ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Attached is a screenshot from my iPad - appears to be 1536px wide in Portrait view. But I suspect the lowest common denominator is less than that. e.g.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/" target="_blank">http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 16:01<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This looks nicer I think (I haven’t managed to sort the search box styles yet). Presumably we can fix a minimum width for the panel? Things get screwy when it is smaller than about 540 pixels. How wide is portrait
view on a tablet?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I know these are small issues compared to a lot of things we’ve worked through lately, but for some users, the look and feel is really important and sometimes it’s just a few small things that really make the
difference.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 15:38<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not wedded to the search box being at the top.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Although I wondered about the How to, feedback and site links etc being in an orange menu to the right of the Sort menu and then leaving space for a centered logo panel in the footer.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shouldn't the heading you've added by My Projects and left aligned?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Agree the middle panel should be wider by default and the left panel narrower to accommodate that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Something like this mock up?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="1153" height="576" id="_x0000_i1037" src="cid:image008.png@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 14:54<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I was thinking it makes sense to have similar things in proximity. Both the search and the sort are to do with the workspace items, it makes sense to me to put these controls together.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Also this is a consistency thing: some tabs have titles, some don’t. Either let’s give them all titles, or let’s lose the big header on the tabs altogether maybe: if it’s not serving any purpose, why use the
space? Also with this, the headers create a division / barrier between the projects and the controls to edit / properties etc. Previously these controls were much more clearly associated with the list of projects in the workspace. Could we put those buttons
in the header perhaps? It does make sense that they are more closely associated with the project list, as the projects are the things they control.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">By default the project details tab, the central one, doesn’t look very nice as it’s very narrow.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is what we have now, which I like a lot: it’s clean / FWS etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="907" height="751" id="_x0000_i1038" src="cid:image009.png@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And this is what we have in x3 which looks nice, but could still do with a few tweaks to make it really lovely:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="833" height="548" id="_x0000_i1039" src="cid:image010.jpg@01D0C09C.7DD0C710"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 14:44<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would leave the search box where it is but make it less wide and put the title to the left. It seems more inuititive to have the search at the top rather than the bottom.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2015 14:31<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers (<a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you think of the idea of moving the search box down next to the ‘Sort your files’ drop down, and then we can give all three tabs titles:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Your Projects, Project Details, Project Templates<o:p></o:p></p>
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