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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tooltips can be very useful for ALL users by displaying additional context, explanation, instruction etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would think having a single option for tooltips like we have now but perhaps in the code using whatever is entered as both a title and alt tag might be a useful compromise? Although I guess that means a change to all models? Also I'm not sure if that's accepted practice or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The other aspect of this is that I think once the new version is offcially released users are going to quickly switch to adding images via the wysiswg editor and for instance the plain text page rather than a graphics and sound page etc. I know the editor has an option for Alt text and it seems like that's used as Alt text and not title text as it doesn't show on hover. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 March 2015 08:56<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Tooltips / Alt text (title vs. alt attributes)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I did that, and indeed in response to issue #104.<br><br>Please Alistair, any comments on what Fay mentions? It does make sense to me. And I don't like tool tips anyway.<br><br>I must say, a lot of people were complaining that they didn't work. That's another reason I made the change. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fay Cross schreef op 20-3-2015 om 9:51:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve noticed that a change has been made to lots of page types so that alt attributes on images are now title attributes. This seems to be in response to a bug on GitHub (<a href="https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/104">https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/104</a>) where tooltips were said to not work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not sure that changing all alt to title really solves the problem and really it’s a wording problem on the editor rather than a problem to be fixed in the LOs. I thought that the main use of tooltip fields in the editor was to add a description of the image to screen readers. Previously these descriptions added as alt attributes did mean that a tooltip appeared when the image was hovered over but this no longer seems to happen in most browsers. Using the title attribute instead does force a tooltip to appear but I don’t think it’s ideal for screen readers (<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html/dom.html#the-title-attribute">http://www.w3.org/TR/html/dom.html#the-title-attribute</a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What does everyone think about this? Should the wording in the editor be changed from ‘Tooltip’ to ‘Description’ or ‘Alt text’ or do you think that it’s more important for it to stay as tooltip and keep the hover functionality even if this might be more fiddly for users of screen readers?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Fay<o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and may contain confidential information. If you have received this<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>message or in any attachment. 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