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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Ok.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:38:16 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">It would be.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 May 2014 12:38<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">If the attribute is enclosed in double quotes.</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="ecxstopSpelling"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:35:05 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">They are about things like < > “, but I would have thought ‘ would be OK?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 May 2014 12:34<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Not positive, but I thought attributes were picky.</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:20:39 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Apostrophes should be OK in either CDATA or in an xml attribute, yes?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 May 2014 12:15<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;background:white;">>after I included a further sub-menu connector</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;background:white;">I take it the connectors have names?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;background:white;">Wonder if apostrophes are escaped.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:08:26 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: Further Xerte Data Loss</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">I guys, I need to get to the bottom of this issue: I have a fairly advanced user who has been periodically losing data: the email below explains the problem. A couple of weeks ago it happened and we lost 40 slides, now it has happened again. In the file I looked at, the broken file ended with the characters</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";"><cMen</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">i.e. an incomplete tag, which I believe should be <cMenuConnector params=”etc”></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Does this ring any bells with anyone? Anyone experienced it before elsewhere? I don’t think the menu connectors are used much, which is why we haven’t come across it before?</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">I have a feeling it is something to do with escaping characters as data is being saved, or as it is being read back to the editor. Anyone have any other bright ideas how we can troubleshoot it? See below…</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Thanks a lot,</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Julian </span></p><div style="border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">I've experienced further data loss again this morning, this time on a completely different Xerte project (<a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10189" target="_blank"><span style="color:#7F7F7F;text-decoration:none;">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10189</span></a>). </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">I initially produced this resource using the Flash Xerte engine, but the academic I'm working with was keen for me to transfer the data over into HTML5. I made a direct duplicate copy of the Flash project, ticked the HTML5 engine and then set about reproducing the slides - no problem.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">Everything was absolutely fine (after working on the project for most of Friday) until around 10:30am this morning, when I lost around 10-15 slides (including my review quiz with 20 MCQs). I'm now beginning to strongly suspect that the Xerte Menu Connector templates might be having something to do with this persistent problem? </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">I have been using multiple connector menus in both my Grasslands and Meat Science packages. In both I have a dominant 'Main Menu' at the start, which then 'connects' via tabs to several sub-menus (of the same Connector template type) dotted throughout the resource. In each of the sub-menus I link back to the Main Menu.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">My last actions before the slides were lost today, happened after I included a further sub-menu connector (at around slide 70) and then linked this to this from the 'Main Menu' (slide 2) via the drop-down selector menu. I then published the changes. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;">With that being said, I've attempted to recreate the problem using a dummy file, but I have so far failed to do it.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><br>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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