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<font size="-1">Hi,<br>
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Katrien from Belgium has the suggestion that there could be also a
symbol for share LO's?<br>
She also likes the symbols on eacht row and not only on the
selected item.<br>
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Bye,<br>
Inge<br>
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Op 29-10-2013 14:51, Pat @ Pgogy schreef:
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<div dir="ltr">I agree, I felt like it was heading into user
settings territory....</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ron
Mitchell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">and
toggle off by default… ;-)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Seriously
though - I really like the functionality John and
would find it very useful personally - especially if
the icons can actually link to those sections of
properties at some point. I don't think the icons
themselves can just be a toggle e.g. public/private
because there are obviously more options to set than
just on/off. But in a way that's the point - if all
they do is give a basic idea of the properties for a
given LO without providing more value than that then
you still have to select the LO then select
properties and I know lots of users including those
responsible for supporting staff and students in
their organisations that would say it's unecessary
clutter. That's certainly not a criticism of what
you've added John but a bit like moodle you only see
all the edit icons when you turn editing on so the
toggle would be the equivalent. The alternative but
a much longer term discussion/wishlist might be
default and user profile settings. Perhaps that's
3.2! ;-)</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HTH</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 October 2013 12:10</span></p>
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<div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons
in Workspace</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">OK, smaller icons and toggle…</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">John Smith</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Learning Technologist</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">School of Health & Life
Sciences</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Glasgow Caledonian University</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:54
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible
icons in Workspace</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">No, in my opinion you should just
show them. <br>
<br>
Really, people are used to icons.<br>
<br>
If we need to accommodate people who would hate
those icons, then Ron's proposal is best:
provide a global toggle <br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">"Smith,
John" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk"
target="_blank">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>>
schreef:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">I was thinking of toggle buttons
and of Ron’s question about really long LO
names and thought of having the selected LO
expand to 2 rows and having the icons
underneath and toggleable…</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">It almost makes the initial
driver pointless though since you need to
select each LO to see the icons… perhaps a
tick box or a show button that toggles or
shows icons that then fade out again…</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">John Smith</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Learning Technologist</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">School of Health & Life
Sciences</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Glasgow Caledonian University</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:42
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons
in Workspace</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The
moodle off grey icons might make sense as
they'll blend better with any theme?</span></p>
<div>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">I think the icons make
sense, but should they be toggle buttons?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I
could see a case that the interface could
be tweaked a little - the properties panel
isn't really properties anymore (it's more
properties and do lots of important
stuff).</span></p>
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<div>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2.2
makes sense, but I think the icons make
the interface easier to use - would they
confuse a new user - probably, but they
might also demonstrate some of the
features the system has which people have
missed (or is that atypical techie talk)</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Julian
Tenney <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As
well as 'is shared, be good to see 'is a
share' (i.e. I'm sharing someone else's
project).<br>
<br>
Can we leave this until 2.2?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi
all,<br>
<br>
So from my conversation with Pat, I
have taken a look at the feasibility
of adding icons to Workspace to
show-at-a-glance certain statuses:<br>
<br>
Private/Public<br>
Flash vs Javascript<br>
RSS syndicated<br>
Shared with a collaborator<br>
(there may be others we can do that
i'm not aware of)<br>
<br>
I have rewritten the SQL query for
Workspace to gather the required data
and implemented the icons but as you
can imagine Workspace soon gets
cluttered (see image XOT_Icons_All). I
have also been playing with the idea
of only showing the images for the row
that is selected (XOT_Icons_Selected)
- but then I know you can select more
than 1 row so not sure how to handle
that...<br>
<br>
What do you think? I'm looking for
ideas...<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
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