<html><head></head><body>Would you like me to try to attend as well?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> schreef:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">I can do either as well. I think timings are to give time for Sven to get here from Brighton, and to have a 'working' lunch, so 11 - 3 if we need that long? I'd imagine the conversations could easily fill that time.<br /><hr /><br />From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk]<br />Sent: 21 October 2013 10:45<br />To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><br /><br />At the moment I can make either of those dates but would be good to confirm<br />asap. What about setting up a quick Doodle or Meetomatic to assess the best<br />date/time? I guess an idea of start and finish time would help everyone too.<br /><br />-----Original Message-----<br />From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br />[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br />Sent: 21 October 2013
10:28<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><br /><br />20 or 22 of November have been suggested, any good? Others are welcome too.<br /><hr /><br />From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br />[xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy<br />[mberthelemy@wyversolutions.co.uk]<br />Sent: 20 October 2013 22:47<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Cc: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><br /><br />Hi Julian,<br /><br />I know Sven quite well, and was at the Adapt launch event earlier this year.<br /><br />What they've got currently is a clever framework built on Bootstrap that<br />allows a Dev to build a simple json file that gets read by the framework to<br />build a one page site at run time.<br /><br />At the moment, there's no authoring tool, and very limited interactions.<br />But, what they do
have
is a strong governance setup and people who are<br />working on the bits and pieces around the development, ie. those good things<br />like marketing and documentation.<br /><br />IMO There could be potential for XOT to be the (or an) authoring tool for<br />Adapt, once the Json structure has been documented and "standardized"<br /><br />I would very much like to be at the meeting with Sven in Nottingham. Let me<br />know when it is and I'll try to book it in the diary. Just not in the next<br />two weeks I'm afraid.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Mark<br /><br />-----<br />Mark Berthelemy<br />07922 146 761<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On 20 Oct 2013, at 22:30, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk><br /></blockquote>wrote:<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">This is all
interesting conversation, thanks. SCratch your own itch goes<br /></blockquote>so far. That might be as far as we want to go, but there are opportunities.<br />I'm grateful for Mark B's contributions here, you are bringing some good<br />perspectives, thanks. I believe you also know Sven Laux, and his 'Adapt'<br />project - I spoke to him last week, and I'm keen to find how we can all work<br />together, they are building something very similar to XOT. His group are<br />much more concerned with the corporate world. We are much further on, but it<br />has struck me that the corporate stuff, and the education stuff are very<br />different. I think there could be a fruitful alliance. Sven is going to come<br />to Nottngham, and if any of you guys could come along, I think we could have<br />a very intersting discussion, we are looking for some dates... please read<br />up on 'Adapt', be interested in thoughts.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1e
x
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm off this week, so apologies for any delay in response.<br /><hr /><br />From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br />[xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John<br />[J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk]<br />Sent: 18 October 2013 18:53<br />To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><br /><br />Oh meant to say too that coding is just a small part of the equation - i<br /></blockquote>only used that as an example as that's what i'm most familiar with...<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">I'd like to see documentation, translations, roadshows, workshops etc<br /></blockquote>being funded too.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Regards<br /><br />John Sm
ith<br
/>Learning Technologist<br />School of Health and Life Sciences<br /><br />Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<br /><br /><br /><br />"Smith, John" <J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk> wrote:<br /><br /><br />Ah... Was about to 'slightly' disagree with you Mark and then saw your<br /></blockquote>reply...<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">I think Jisc or JiscTechdis would be the ideal people to hold the purse -<br /></blockquote>assuming they are happy to do that.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">But... Then i think you still need the 'foundation' approach or at least<br /></blockquote>the governance part - who decides what bit of work gets funded?<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">For example i have a job but
also
occasionally do some consultancy coding.<br /></blockquote>My contribution to Xerte is largely gratis, but with that i really work to<br />my own agenda, prioritising things that interest me... With paid work you<br />obviously work to someone else's agenda.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Julian's 'scratch your own itch' model kinda falls into this but sometimes<br /></blockquote>falls down as we are seeing with the impending mysql depreciation. That<br />NEEDS done otherwise we stall.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">We have 20odd issues on Github some largish projects and some 1 hour jobs.<br /></blockquote>And probably a few 'needs doing' that haven't been logged.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-lef
t:
1ex;">I just wonder who will decide and prioritise how any money is spent, while<br /></blockquote>taking into consideration the views of those donating the money, ie the<br />conference participants, companies, etc...<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Regards<br /><br />John Smith<br />Learning Technologist<br />School of Health and Life Sciences<br /><br />Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<br /><br /><br /><br />Mark Berthelemy <mberthelemy@wyversolutions.co.uk> wrote:<br /><br /><br />Absolutely Ron.<br /><br />And my apologies... I think I misread your email (too many threads<br /></blockquote>happening at once). As a means of channelling funding JISC might well be the<br />answer. ELN or LPI would definitely not be!<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">As a means of promoting a conferen
ce,
JISC is less relevant to corporates.<br /><br />Sorry about that.<br /><br />Mark<br /><br />--<br />Mark Berthelemy<br />Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd<br />Tel: 01773 318 962<br />Mob: 07922 146 761<br />Web: <a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a>><br /><br /><br />On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:02, Ron Mitchell wrote:<br /><br />There's a lot to unpick here Mark and it clearly depends on the main<br /></blockquote>objectives and these are obviously different for different people. But I<br />think there's lots to consider and lots of potential implications.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br />[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark<br />Berthelemy<br />Sent: 18 Octobe
r 2013
16:46<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />Sorry to disagree Ron, but JISC has, in practice, no relevance to<br /></blockquote>corporate L&D. Their resources are just not used.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Better to work through the Elearning Network or the Learning & Performance<br /></blockquote>Institute.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Mark<br /><br /><br /><br />--<br /><br />Mark Berthelemy<br /><br />Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd<br /><br />Tel: 01773 318 962<br /><br />Mob: 07922 146 761<br /><br />Web:<br /></blockquote><a
href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso</a><br /><a href="http://lutions.co.uk">lutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a>/>><br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:42, Ron Mitchell wrote:<br /><br />I'm thinking out loud but one possibility might be JISC or JISC Techdis<br /></blockquote>especially as they do a lot of work with publishers and accessibility so<br />that would also fit with the additional corporate focus. There's some<br />overlap with other projects too. I'm sure there are options.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left:
1ex;">From:<br />xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@list<br /><a href="http://s.nottingham.ac.uk">s.nottingham.ac.uk</a>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<br />On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy<br />Sent: 18 October 2013 16:33<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />Can I just ask how the attendance costs would feed into future<br /></blockquote>developments?<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">What organisation would receive the money and distribute it?<br /><br /><br /><br />Sorry to be picky. but good governance and structures are pretty important<br /></blockquote>IMO.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px
solid
#729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Mark<br /><br /><br /><br />--<br /><br />Mark Berthelemy<br /><br />Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd<br /><br />Tel: 01773 318 962<br /><br />Mob: 07922 146 761<br /><br />Web:<br /></blockquote><a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso</a><br /><a href="http://lutions.co.uk">lutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a>/>><br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:31, Ron Mitchell wrote:<br /><br />Likewise I think if we made it known that some of the attendance cost<br /></blockquote>would be contributing to new developments there are a lot of people who<br />would support that.<br /><br /><br /
><br
/><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">From:<br />xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@list<br /><a href="http://s.nottingham.ac.uk">s.nottingham.ac.uk</a>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<br />On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy<br />Sent: 18 October 2013 16:17<br />To: xerte@pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com>; For Xerte<br />technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />Count me in on that one. If we could make sure there was a stream that<br /></blockquote>wasn't university/academic/education focussed - I'm sure we could get a lot<br />of takers from the corporate world.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left:
1ex;">Mark<br /><br /><br /><br />--<br /><br />Mark Berthelemy<br /><br />Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd<br /><br />Tel: 01773 318 962<br /><br />Mob: 07922 146 761<br /><br />Web:<br /></blockquote><a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso</a><br /><a href="http://lutions.co.uk">lutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a>/>><br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:09, Pat @ Pgogy wrote:<br /><br />I was mumbling yesterday to 2 elearning people from London Unis about<br />a XOT conference<br /><br /><br /><br />Organise one, charge 50 quid per head more than costs, 100 people<br />come, quids in<br /><br /><br /><br />O
n Fri,
Oct 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Smith, John<br /><</blockquote>J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">We've discussed this before but you could probably make some money<br />from merchandising; how much I don't know but the opportunity is<br />there. again though it's dependent on the use of the trademark and the<br />ownership - there doesn't seem much point registering the trademark<br />and then not doing anything with it.<br /><br /><br /><br />Regards,<br /><br /><br /><br />John Smith<br /><br />Learning Technologist<br /><br />School of Health & Life Sciences<br /><br />Glasgow Caledonian University<br /><br /><br /><br />From:<br />xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@list<br /><a href="http://s.nottingham.ac.uk">s.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br
/>[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-boun<br />ces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br />Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:55 PM<br /><br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />With the foundation stuff, we were thinking about whether the University<br /></blockquote>should hand ownership off to it, rather than keep it, but unbeknown to me<br />the University has registered a trademark against 'Xerte', to be managed in<br />much the same way Moodle manage theirs. Ultimately the problem we came up<br />against in the sustainability conversations was that no one seemed very keen<br />to leave this job to pursue it.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">From:<br
/>xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@list<br /><a href="http://s.nottingham.ac.uk">s.nottingham.ac.uk</a>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<br />On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy<br />Sent: 18 October 2013 14:39<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />Or another way of looking at it is: if things carry on just as they are;<br /></blockquote>with a focus on institutions that will fund development, what is the<br />viability of Xerte in the medium/long term?<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">BTW. You don't have to set up a Foundation. You could easily create a<br /></blockquote>company for much less cost...<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0
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1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Mark<br /><br /><br /><br />--<br /><br />Mark Berthelemy<br /><br />Managing Director - Wyver Solutions Ltd<br /><br />Tel: 01773 318 962<br /><br />Mob: 07922 146 761<br /><br />Web:<br /></blockquote><a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk/<http://www.wyverso</a><br /><a href="http://lutions.co.uk">lutions.co.uk</a><<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a>/>><br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:07, Julian Tenney wrote:<br /><br />Probably depends on how ambitious we want to be. We are in a very good<br /></blockquote>place right now, and we can just carry on as we are, but there is a limit t
o<br
/>how far we can go, I think, when we all have day jobs.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">From:<br />xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@list<br /><a href="http://s.nottingham.ac.uk">s.nottingham.ac.uk</a>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<br />On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy<br />Sent: 18 October 2013 12:55<br />To: For Xerte technical developers<br />Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><<a href="http://xerte.net">http://xerte.net</a>/><br /><br /><br /><br />If I was playing with my MBA (no sniggering, I do genuinely have one)<br />I would say we are at the "growth wall", which is a point at which<br />SMEs decide to how expand (new markets, more staff etc. etc)<br /><br /><br /><br />It is inevitably the big risk they face (if you discount starting in the<br /></blockquote>first place) a
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