<div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; ">Absolutely Ron.<div><br></div><div>And my apologies... I think I misread your email (too many threads happening at once). As a means of channelling funding JISC might well be the answer. ELN or LPI would definitely not be!</div><div><br></div><div>As a means of promoting a conference, JISC is less relevant to corporates.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry about that.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div></div>
<div><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>Mark Berthelemy</div><div>Managing Director - <span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Wyver Solutions Ltd</span></div><div>Tel:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>01773 318 962</div><div>Mob:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>07922 146 761</div><div>Web:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>www.wyversolutions.co.uk</div><div><br></div></div>
<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:02, Ron Mitchell wrote:</p>
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There's a lot to unpick here Mark and it clearly depends on the main objectives and these are obviously different for different people. But I think there's lots to consider and lots of potential implications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; "><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin: 0px; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 16:46<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p style="margin: 0px; "><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Sorry to disagree Ron, but JISC has, in practice, no relevance to corporate L&D. Their resources are just not used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Better to work through the Elearning Network or the Learning & Performance Institute.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">Mark Berthelemy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">Managing Director - <span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wyver Solutions Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">Tel:<span> </span>01773 318 962<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">Mob:<span> </span>07922 146 761<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; ">Web:<span> </span><a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; "><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p><span style="color:#A0A0A8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:42, Ron Mitchell wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I'm thinking out loud but one possibility might be JISC or JISC Techdis especially as they do a lot of work with publishers and accessibility so that would also fit with the additional corporate focus. There's some overlap with other projects too. I'm sure there are options.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 16:33<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Can I just ask how the attendance costs would feed into future developments?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">What organisation would receive the money and distribute it?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Sorry to be picky… but good governance and structures are pretty important IMO.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mark Berthelemy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Managing Director - <span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wyver Solutions Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Tel: 01773 318 962<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mob: 07922 146 761<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Web: <a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style="color:#A0A0A8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:31, Ron Mitchell wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Likewise I think if we made it known that some of the attendance cost would be contributing to new developments there are a lot of people who would support that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 16:17<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a>; For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net">xerte.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Count me in on that one. If we could make sure there was a stream that wasn't university/academic/education focussed - I'm sure we could get a lot of takers from the corporate world. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mark Berthelemy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Managing Director - <span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wyver Solutions Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Tel: 01773 318 962<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mob: 07922 146 761<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Web: <a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style="color:#A0A0A8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:09, Pat @ Pgogy wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I was mumbling yesterday to 2 elearning people from London Unis about a XOT conference<o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Organise one, charge 50 quid per head more than costs, 100 people come, quids in<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Smith, John <<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk" target="_blank">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’ve discussed this before but you could probably make some money from merchandising; how much I don’t know but the opportunity is there… again though it’s dependent on the use of the trademark and the ownership – there doesn’t seem much point registering the trademark and then not doing anything with it…</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2013 2:55 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With the foundation stuff, we were thinking about whether the University should hand ownership off to it, rather than keep it, but unbeknown to me the University has registered a trademark against ‘Xerte’, to be managed in much the same way Moodle manage theirs. Ultimately the problem we came up against in the sustainability conversations was that no one seemed very keen to leave this job to pursue it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 14:39<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Or another way of looking at it is: if things carry on just as they are; with a focus on institutions that will fund development, what is the viability of Xerte in the medium/long term?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">BTW. You don't have to set up a Foundation. You could easily create a company for much less cost...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mark Berthelemy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Managing Director - <span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wyver Solutions Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Tel: 01773 318 962<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mob: 07922 146 761<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Web: <a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk" target="_blank">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style="color:#A0A0A8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:07, Julian Tenney wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Probably depends on how ambitious we want to be. We are in a very good place right now, and we can just carry on as we are, but there is a limit to how far we can go, I think, when we all have day jobs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 12:55<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">If I was playing with my MBA (no sniggering, I do genuinely have one) I would say we are at the "growth wall", which is a point at which SMEs decide to how expand (new markets, more staff etc. etc) <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">It is inevitably the big risk they face (if you discount starting in the first place) and is when bad things happen.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">It would seem logical that we all half agree some funding is required to go anywhere<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">So, where? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Kickstarter? Indiegogo? Shuttleworth? Hewlett?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We considered setting up a foundation, but it fell over when we discovered it would cost £5k or £10k a year and would take quite a bit of work to do. It could be resurrected as a discussion though.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 11:48</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">FYI. 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