<div dir="ltr">I was mumbling yesterday to 2 elearning people from London Unis about a XOT conference<div><br></div><div>Organise one, charge 50 quid per head more than costs, 100 people come, quids in</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Smith, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk" target="_blank">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We’ve discussed this before but you could probably make some money from merchandising; how much I don’t know but the opportunity is there… again though it’s
dependent on the use of the trademark and the ownership – there doesn’t seem much point registering the trademark and then not doing anything with it…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John Smith<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2013 2:55 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">With the foundation stuff, we were thinking about whether the University should hand ownership off to it, rather than keep it, but unbeknown to
me the University has registered a trademark against ‘Xerte’, to be managed in much the same way Moodle manage theirs. Ultimately the problem we came up against in the sustainability conversations was that no one seemed very keen to leave this job to pursue
it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 14:39<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Or another way of looking at it is: if things carry on just as they are; with a focus on institutions that will fund development, what is the viability of
Xerte in the medium/long term?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">BTW. You don't have to set up a Foundation. You could easily create a company for much less cost...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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01773 318 962<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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07922 146 761<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Web:<span> </span>
<a href="http://www.wyversolutions.co.uk" target="_blank">www.wyversolutions.co.uk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:07, Julian Tenney wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Probably depends on how ambitious we want to be. We are in a very good place right now, and we can just carry on as we are,
but there is a limit to how far we can go, I think, when we all have day jobs.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 12:55<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a></span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">If I was playing with my MBA (no sniggering, I do genuinely have one) I would say we are at the "growth wall", which is a point at which SMEs decide to how expand (new markets, more staff etc. etc) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">It is inevitably the big risk they face (if you discount starting in the first place) and is when bad things happen.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">It would seem logical that we all half agree some funding is required to go anywhere<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">So, where? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Kickstarter? Indiegogo? Shuttleworth? Hewlett?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We considered setting up a foundation, but it fell over when we discovered it would cost £5k or £10k a year and would take
quite a bit of work to do. It could be resurrected as a discussion though.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Berthelemy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2013 11:48</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: <a href="http://xerte.net" target="_blank">xerte.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">FYI. I did consider setting up a paid service for another open source project, but decided against it as the project had no formal entity through which I could feed back payments.
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-GB">If Xerte did have some sort of formal body it would give people confidence to start investing in it…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 11:43, Ron Mitchell wrote:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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