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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’ll set up the GItHub repo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 August 2013 13:36<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So the first step is get the Xot code on GitHub... and integrate with the Xerte tree and close down googlecode<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 5-8-2013 14:33, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So we can do it later. I think the key thing will be start making tickets for everything we do. Trac might do more than we need just now, but I reckon best to take the simplest solution and see if it works rather than add a load of stuff just because we can,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 August 2013 13:24<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ok. <br><br>Trac can be intergrated with GitHub, but I don't know about the other way around...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 5-8-2013 14:15, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tell you what then, let’s see how we get on with github and the issue tracker there, and see what we think,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 August 2013 12:52<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Julian wondered ( in the previous thread):<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Do you think github does enough with tickets for us to manage a SCRUM like workflow?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Honestly, I don't know. I don't mind installing trac, just to be able to play with it, and github, and figure this out before we make a definite choice.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 5-8-2013 12:56, Smith, John schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes, I think combining would be a good step since both wizards are intertwined… we also have a shedload of duplicate code…</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>John Smith</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Learning Technologist</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>School of Health & Life Sciences</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Glasgow Caledonian University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 05, 2013 11:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I also would like us to combine the source trees of toolkits and xerte, and/or make xot leading....<br><br>Ehmm, and I'll wait a bit for installing trac then? It lloks like going to github and using as much as we can of github is the most sensible thing to do.<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 5-8-2013 12:21, Smith, John schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><b>We should really start a new thread for this discussion...</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>That “Improve this doc” allows you to Fork->Change-> Submit Pull Request<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><img border=0 width=953 height=323 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CE91E0.E985B980"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>John Smith<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:54 AM<br>To: Xerte discussion list<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes, public is fine for us. I'll set it up later, then we can hook Trac up to it. I've got a bit to learn about how the two will work together...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>We are looking to standardise development processes here across a few developers groups that all do things differently, and I'd like our project to inform the choices we make: my idea, in nutshell, is git + Trac + SCRUM,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Smith, John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: 05 August 2013 10:48<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Public means that they are publicly accessible...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From my understanding, anyone can Fork the repository and make their own local copy and make changes - they then submit a pull request and if we like it we can pull their changes back into the main repo... This is where we benefit from the community...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>John Smith<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:31 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To git (i.e. local to trac on the community server)? or to github?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Difference, as far as I can tell, is that you can host public git<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>repositories for free, and private ones cost money. It's not entirely<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>clear to me what 'public' means. Publically accessible, like googlecode,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>or that anyone can commit. I think that last 'feature' is undesirable,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>and honestly I can't believe that's the case, but haven't had the time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>to make sure what it is.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I'll start setting up trac.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Op 5-8-2013 11:19, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> OK, let's go for it. And move the code over to GitHub?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: 05 August 2013 10:09<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I was waiting for you to decide where to set it up... :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I don't mind setting it up on the community server at all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Op 5-8-2013 10:47, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> This is something that would be good to log on Trac or similar: Tom, did you think any more about setting Trac up?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474<br><br>Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009.<br><a href="http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html">http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html</a><br><br>Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career 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