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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ok I’ve tracked the problem with this… seems the network debug tool not showing upload.php firing was a red herring… it only shows in Mac Chrome but not in
either Firefox or Safari…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The problem with Safari is simply the flash cookie bug so simply testing for firefox or safari and restarting the session in upload (now that we know how) seems
to fix it… will commit once I’ve tested that Moodle auth works in Safari also…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Mac Safari browser bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do you need to set an encoding type in the flash?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 11 Jun 2013, at 15:48, "Smith, John" <<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anyone out there with the ability to debug the wizard who is using a Mac?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This bug has been floating around now for a while now and I thought it was related to the Firefox Cookie bug but it doesn’t appear to be… and ii’ve been able
to reproduce it here…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anyway, when you try to upload media in any browser other than Safari the file is POSTed to the script upload.php and this php file tries to write the data
to server disk… If you monitor the Network in the Developer Tools or Firebug then you see the file upload.php appear…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you try to do this in Safari though then upload.php never appears so doesn’t appear to be POSTed to… if you press the little magnifying glass to preview
the image then file_exists.php fires in both Safari and every other browser… strangely enough - if the file is very large then you get the progress bar which gradually increases as if the data is being sent….</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anyone have any idea why the wizard doesn’t appear to POST to upload.php in Safari?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Graham Bell [<a href="mailto:graham@editeur.org">mailto:graham@editeur.org</a>]
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<b>To:</b> Smith, John<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] FW: Xerte (nice example and a browser bug report)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi John -- not sure how I find the version of Xerte -- it's provided to us by Alastair. I'll take a look at the console when I get a chance (next week, as I'm travelling at the moment).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Graham
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<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Smith, John<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When using Safari (version 5.1.9), all goes as expected except that the upload progress happens too quickly. The filename appears, but clicking on the image inspector icon does not display the image -- it gives you an error that says 'you
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Just following up on Alistair's email as I didn't get a reply, but I sent it back to the list...<br>
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I'll investigate this for you, I don't often use Safari but haven't noticed any issues when i have, although this hasn't been recently.<br>
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Can you tell me if its the upload button in the Flash wizard or the media upload button in the properties panel? And what is it that doesn't work? Do you get the file system popup? Can you choose a file? What happens once you've selected the file?<br>
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I suspect it might be session related, similar to the Firefox/Flash bug that took us a while to fix, but if it is this then it should be easy to implement a fix for Safari.<br>
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Alistair McNaught <<a href="mailto:Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk">Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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A colleague of mine has been working on this metadata LO –<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281">http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_281</a><br>
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From: Graham Bell [<a href="mailto:graham@editeur.org">mailto:graham@editeur.org</a>]<br>
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Just another quick report on Xerte for the developers. I found the upload functionality for images and audio does not work in Safari -- but does work in Chrome on my Mac.<br>
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