<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I think the App Store route makes more sense then</div><div><br>On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">></span> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You know the answer to that: we don’t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy <br><b>Sent:</b> 04 June 2013 16:16<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven’t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don’t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can’t mix and match them. That’s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available – defaults to ‘All’ and you can untick ones you don’t want. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy <br><b>Sent:</b> 04 June 2013 13:44<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 June 2013 19:30<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that.<br><br>Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses?<br><br>The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec?<br> <br>Pgogy Webstuff <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""><br>----- Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">From:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">"For Xerte technical developers" <<a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">To:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">"For Xerte technical developers" <<a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Cc:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Sent:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Fri, 31 May 2013 10:01:53 +0100</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">Subject:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif"">[Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules<br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Good Morning everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron’s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ‘vote’ or ‘comment’ to a text wall. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn’t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g. ‘Yes/Agree’, No/Disagree,Comment/Question.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you’ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ‘stimulating question’ type of template.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kindest Regards,<br>Thomas<br>==========================================================<br>Thomas Rochford | e-Learning Advisor | Jisc RSC Eastern<br>Tel: 01223 564749 | Mobile: 07500 669002 | Skype: cambridge.serendipity<br>Email: <a href="mailto:thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk"><span style="color:#0563C1">thomas.rochford@jiscadvance.ac.uk</span></a> | Web: <a href="http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk/eastern</span></a> <br>Cambridge Serendipity, 35 Gough Way, Cambridge, CB3 9LN<br>For the full range of RSC UK events, resources and blog, visit <a href="http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://www.jiscrsc.ac.uk</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 May 2013 23:09<br><b>To:</b> For technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] New Modules</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile">https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">and</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree">https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. 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