<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ok, but that's loading the scripts even if not needed? So not on actually demand but possible demand?</div><div><br>On 17 May 2013, at 08:33, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think that’s why I added that lsit to the LO root icon, so they could be loaded before parsing the content. Maybe we should add that to the other template as well?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2013 16:42<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Well I develop new page scriptygoodness<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">How do I make sure XOT loads my script for my page?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 16 May 2013, at 15:45, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What do you mean?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2013 13:31<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kinda prefer the dynamic loading option in terms of expansion and development<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 16 May 2013, at 12:47, "Smith, John" <<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Looks good…</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Smith</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve added a list on the LO icon where you can add the libraries you want, also a stylesheet, so then you can easily define <div id=”chart” class=”ChartClass”/> in the piece by hand, and use script to set it up:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><image002.png><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><image003.png><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, John<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2013 12:02<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That would be fine – I thought this was more for end users</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Have a dropdown with the libraries prepopulated and for each supported one, an array or sources for fallback. If you get a 200 you move on, if you get something else you try the next in the array…</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Smith</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">You can also do it this way and execute the callback when the script has loaded to use it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><image004.png><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Smith, John<br>Sent: 16 May 2013 07:28<br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">D3 is probably the ultimate in charting tools and is HUGE i agree but a lot of that is the data manipulation routines, cross browser, legacy browser support stuff... Don't we potentially want all them too?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Making it a jquery plugin doesn't actually have that much overhead but i think they could/should further split the sections into sub plugins so that you can pick and choose which you require...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Its only 135kb minified though - not much or any bigger than 1 decent sized image - what we need to do in xenith is enable on-demand loading/background pre-fetching of these libraries i think and then there isn't an issue...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">See here though for others <a href="http://techslides.com/50-javascript-charting-and-graphics-libraries/"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://techslides.com/50-javascript-charting-and-graphics-libraries/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">I was actually wondering whether we should just make the editor code into jquery plugins which leverage the power of jquery chaining and oop in a sense, so something like:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">$('#treemenu :nth-child(6)').insertBranch('...').bind('click', function().... Etc<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Easy to do, maintain and read...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">John Smith<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">School of Health and Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">"Pat @ Pgogy" <<a href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">It is a plugin, but you could link the raw GitHub stuff to save space.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">I think the jquery in XOT could be moved into a library into which D3 could be added<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">I've got two D3 plugins half developed, but I've just bundled the JS in<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">On 15 May 2013, at 15:44, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">There are some really nice examples on their site. I think it’s abit more than I need: it seems to be a whole jquery like plugin, rather than just the charting stuff.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">This is one example where being to load libraries from a CDN would be good, because then people can choose. I don’t know if you can make the charting setup FWS for anything but the simplest charts, which we already have.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">After equations though, academics would make a lot of use of charts. I suppose they can do them as images, but it’s a bit of a hassle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Sent: 15 May 2013 15:33<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">To: For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">D3 is pretty standard and jquery like<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">On 15 May 2013, at 15:17, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">The ability to show a range of charts would be a good addition to the site template, and the toolkit, it would complement the MathJax stuff nicely.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Does anyone have any recommendations?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Xerte-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span 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