<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Kinda prefer the dynamic loading option in terms of expansion and development</div><div><br>On 16 May 2013, at 12:47, "Smith, John" <<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I’ve added a list on the LO icon where you can add the libraries you want, also a stylesheet, so then you can easily define <div id=”chart” class=”ChartClass”/> in the piece by hand, and use script
to set it up:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2013 12:02<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That would be fine – I thought this was more for end users<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Have a dropdown with the libraries prepopulated and for each supported one, an array or sources for fallback. If you get a 200 you move on, if you get something else you try the next in the array…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">You can also do it this way and execute the callback when the script has loaded to use it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Smith, John<br>
Sent: 16 May 2013 07:28<br>
To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">D3 is probably the ultimate in charting tools and is HUGE i agree but a lot of that is the data manipulation routines, cross browser, legacy browser support stuff... Don't we potentially want all them too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Making it a jquery plugin doesn't actually have that much overhead but i think they could/should further split the sections into sub plugins so that you can pick and choose which you require...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Its only 135kb minified though - not much or any bigger than 1 decent sized image - what we need to do in xenith is enable on-demand loading/background pre-fetching of these libraries i think and then there isn't an
issue...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">See here though for others <a href="http://techslides.com/50-javascript-charting-and-graphics-libraries/">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://techslides.com/50-javascript-charting-and-graphics-libraries/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I was actually wondering whether we should just make the editor code into jquery plugins which leverage the power of jquery chaining and oop in a sense, so something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">$('#treemenu :nth-child(6)').insertBranch('...').bind('click', function().... Etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Easy to do, maintain and read...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">School of Health and Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">"Pat @ Pgogy" <<a href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">It is a plugin, but you could link the raw GitHub stuff to save space.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I think the jquery in XOT could be moved into a library into which D3 could be added<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I've got two D3 plugins half developed, but I've just bundled the JS in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">On 15 May 2013, at 15:44, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">There are some really nice examples on their site. I think it’s abit more than I need: it seems to be a whole jquery like plugin, rather than just the charting stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">This is one example where being to load libraries from a CDN would be good, because then people can choose. I don’t know if you can make the charting setup FWS for anything but the simplest charts, which we already
have.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">After equations though, academics would make a lot of use of charts. I suppose they can do them as images, but it’s a bit of a hassle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">From: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>]
On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Sent: 15 May 2013 15:33<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">To: For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Charting Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">D3 is pretty standard and jquery like<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">On 15 May 2013, at 15:17, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk%3cmailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">The ability to show a range of charts would be a good addition to the site template, and the toolkit, it would complement the MathJax stuff nicely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Does anyone have any recommendations?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009.<br>
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Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners.<br>
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