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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>OK, the UoN xerte site now points to </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.xerte.org.uk/jdownloads/Xerte%20Online%20Toolkits/xertetoolkits_2.0.zip"><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://www.xerte.org.uk/jdownloads/Xerte%20Online%20Toolkits/xertetoolkits_2.0.zip</span></a> for the download. Let me know if that’s not correct…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>…and please build a zip!</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2013 15:06<br><b>To:</b> Alistair McNaught; Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk)<br><b>Cc:</b> Inge Donkervoort 12Change (i.donkervoort@12change.eu); 'Fay Cross' (Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk); Nuno Jorge (Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk)<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Community Website<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have got time next week and the week after to work on the community site if you want. I’d like to go through it and try and get all the typography consistent at least.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have made the 2.0 branch now, so you can check out <a href="https://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.0"><span style='color:#1F497D'>https://xerteonlinetoolkits.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.0</span></a> for any further changes / fixes etc to that. Keep working in the trunk for new stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have zipped up the files and put them on the web site as before, and made a few amendments to the text and so on there, and have referenced the community site on the community page. It’s still publishing so you might not see the changes just yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regarding the zip, I’m happy to point the link on the Xerte web site to the community site to pick up Tom’s automated builds: should the link be <a href="http://www.xerte.org.uk/jdownloads/Xerte%20Online%20Toolkits/xertetoolkits_2.0.zip"><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://www.xerte.org.uk/jdownloads/Xerte%20Online%20Toolkits/xertetoolkits_2.0.zip</span></a>? At the moment, it points directly to the zip, rather than the ‘create account to download’ stuff we talked about. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would prefer to direct people to both <a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte</a> and the community site in information about the release to the lists. There isn’t much on the community site about the new release at the moment? I can do this now (I’ve got about 90 minutes of today left) or can wait until Monday if you don’t want me to steal your thunder before tomorrow. I need to write some copy to post anyway, so I’ll crack on with that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Next week I can help with the community site – I’m out of the office tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alistair McNaught [<a href="mailto:Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk">mailto:Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2013 13:57<br><b>To:</b> Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers (<a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br><b>Cc:</b> Inge Donkervoort 12Change (<a href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a>); 'Fay Cross' (<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>); Nuno Jorge (<a href="mailto:Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk">Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Community Website<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>That’s very odd – I can’t replicate those issues (except the typography styles – that’s a consequence of things being written by different people at different times and not yet having evolved a style guide).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The whole point – to me – about a community site is that it will evolve. If we’re encouraging community wider contribution we’ll need to accept a level of stylistic difference. I’m not getting any jumping around of panels etc and I’m finding all the resources I expected to on the Resources page. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think the question of whether a community site is ready to be launched is a question for the community to decide and this little bit of the community in southern England feels the benefits of the site for new users far outweigh any current problems. What does the rest of the community feel? </span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We were planning on launching the site to the public tomorrow so a consensus (or at least a quorum) view would be welcome sooner rather than later!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alistair</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Julian Tenney [<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2013 13:41<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers (<a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br><b>Cc:</b> Alistair McNaught; Inge Donkervoort 12Change (<a href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a>); 'Fay Cross' (<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>); Nuno Jorge (<a href="mailto:Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk">Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> Community Website</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have to say, I’m not sure the community web site is ready for public consumption. If I go there now, the links are all inconsistent and wrap badly, the login box isn’t aligned, I couldn’t find the downloads, and I’m just not very happy with the way it looks. When you navigate around the pages, the panels jump about. There is inconsistent typography in headings, margins, line breaks and font sizes, the resources page doesn’t contain any resources, the resource panel is repeated on both the showcases and resources page, the FAQ page has styles all of its own and there’s a ton other stuff: it’s all just a bit of a mess if you ask me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not putting down the work that has gone into it, but I know we can do a lot better than this: it just doesn’t feel finished, and it doesn’t inspire me with confidence in the tools.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At the moment I would prefer to put v2.0 on the main Xerte web site and direct people there, and we can continue working on the community site now we’ve got this tranche of development work out of the way. We can re-visit the styling of the application as well at the same time, and make the two work together: Nuno applied the same set of styles to toolkits this week, and it didn’t work very well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So here’s my recommendation: we put v2.0 on the Xerte site as we always have done (or link directly from there to Tom’s zip, without letting the user see the community site if they follow the link from <a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte">www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte</a>: they just get the downloaded zip). Then we properly finish the community site, and re-skin toolkits in the next batch of work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>This email is confidential and may be privileged. 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