<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Not misunderstood more the joys of doing this over email</div><div><br></div><div>I wouldn't let the average academic have the XML address either<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><div>Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality</div></div><div><br>On 12 Apr 2013, at 15:48, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oh, OK, sorry I was thinking you wanted to add XML as an option to the runtime dropdown. I don’t think that’s the right place for it, but I might have misunderstood,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2013 14:19<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Well the tab is there for everyone, the only difference is the URL changes from<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Xml_560 to<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Play_xml_560<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Apr 2013, at 13:49, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Getting xml out. I think that’s what you mean, anyway? I think that’s something for developers to get at, rather than end users to get confused about,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2013 12:58<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">The first or second bit<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Apr 2013, at 11:37, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This sounds like a rabbit hole for now,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2013 11:03<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">The play URL is now a sort of API<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So rather than <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">play.php?template_id=1&method=flash<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">You could have <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">play.php?template_id=1&method=XML<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Which just returns the XML<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So you cold retire the XML page from the root folder (over time)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Now where this could get interesting is you could make an XML remote method to change the file locations and host a single engine at site x, and dynamically bring in content that way. A sort of xpert shop window<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Apr 2013, at 10:08, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is that something end users would need to see, or is this tech stuff for an API call?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2013 08:22<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">At the moment XML is a link option for XOT files, but all it does is return the XML.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As we now have different methods for displaying content for a module, XML could be one of those?<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com"><span style="color:purple">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Apr 2013, at 07:32, Tom Reijnders <<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl"><span style="color:purple">reijnders@tor.nl</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ehmmm... could you be a bit more specific? Last time I checked I still wasn't a mind reader.... :-)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Op 12-4-2013 0:28, Pat @ Pgogy schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tom,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts on making XML into a play option?<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com"><span style="color:purple">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 11 Apr 2013, at 21:52, Tom Reijnders <<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl"><span style="color:purple">reijnders@tor.nl</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yes definitely. Added function upgrade_4()<br><br>Tom<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron Mitchell schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Was the correct upgrade definitely in the patch?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If it was my applying of the patch didn't work because that's not in the patched or exported code yet it is in basic.sql</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 14:33<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Strange.<br><br>Upgrade should give you an extra column on templatedetails called extra_flags.<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ron Mitchell <<a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk"><span style="color:purple">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</span></a>> schreef:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers got it!<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet but not quite working for me...<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">1. Applied patch to local copy of svn code<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">2. Exported patched version<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">3. Dropped over a localhost test install<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I can see new options in the properties panel e.g. what is the default engine to use for this project with Javascript (a.k.a. HTML5) ticked<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But I can't untick that or tick the flash option<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">When following the flash and html5 links I get an empty wondow<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">and when trying to create a new LO I get an empty window with failed to create new template<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I ran upgrade.php but there doesn't seem to be anything new in there?<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">HTH<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 13:10<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I’ve just sent it on…<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 12:29<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Didn't want to send It to the list . Julian has it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ron Mitchell <<a href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk"><span style="color:purple">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</span></a>> schreef:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Happy to test and feedback but where do I get the patch? 752 looks like Fay's update.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 11:08<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am off-line the rest of the day. I'll send the patch to Julian.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom Reijnders schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">As an addition:<br><br>Now you can just use play.php&template_id=4 (or play_4). It will show :<br>1. if the template_frame=xerte in the engine set by the user<br>2. if the template_frame is site using modules/site/play.php<br><br>Also, you can use play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash or play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript to force a specific engine.<br><br>Some is true for preview.<br><br>You can also use engine=other (this is used by the wizard when Ctlr+Play is pressed)<br><br>I have to do the same for peer.php, but first would like some feedback ;-)<br><br>Tom<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:38, Tom Reijnders schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Almost finished.<br><br>I didn't change anything yet to modularize the properties page<br><br>- Changed play.php (root) and modules/xerte/play.php and preview<br>- Made play_html5.php (root) redirect to new play<br>- Make use of the same template files as export does for the play and preview<br>- Make wizard toggle the engine on Ctrl-click<br>- Move site to its own module dir<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Xerte-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev"><span style="color:purple">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)"><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Xerte-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Xerte-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Xerte-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Xerte-dev mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>