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Progress indeed, <br>
<br>
So... playing works if you manage to get the right entry in the db?<br>
<br>
Please check whether <br>
1. play.php?template_id=## <br>
works as expected, i.e. with the flasg in the db<br>
2. play.php?template_id=##&engine=flash <br>
always plays in flash regardless of db entry<br>
3. play.php?template_id=##&engine=javascript <br>
always plays in html5/javascript regardless of db entry<br>
<br>
4. preview.php?template_id=##&engine=other<br>
plays in engine oposite that in the DB<br>
<br>
I'll send you the files involved in the property management, i.e.
toggling the flags.<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 12-4-2013 10:12, Ron Mitchell
schreef:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
patch I got from Julian is 2,327 but progress of sorts...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Has
anyone else got this working?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
copied the modular_play.diff file again from the email
received to file system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Selected
TortoiseSVN > Apply patch and selected that file then
Patch all items<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Check
upgrade.php it now has the function upgrade_4() - no idea
why it didn't previously following exact same process<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">TortoiseSVN
> Export to a new empty folder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Copy
that code over existing working localhost install<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Visit
upgrade.php<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
has now added the extra_flags column and set engine=flash
for existing projects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Existing
projects play via Flash but...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
can't change engine via properties - can't change ticks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can't
create new LO's based on any of the templates - get failed
to create template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
I change an LO to engine=javascript direct in the db it
plays via html5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2013 07:34<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The patch
should be 2.382.324 bytes in size.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron Mitchell schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Was
the correct upgrade definitely in the patch?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
it was my applying of the patch didn't work because that's
not in the patched or exported code yet it is in basic.sql</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 14:33<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:windowtext">Strange.<br>
<br>
Upgrade should give you an extra column on templatedetails
called extra_flags.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ron
Mitchell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>>
schreef:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers got it!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure if anyone else has tried
this yet but not quite working for me...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Applied patch to local copy of svn
code<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Exported patched version<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Dropped over a localhost test
install<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can see new options in the properties
panel e.g. what is the default engine to use for this
project with Javascript (a.k.a. HTML5) ticked<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But I can't untick that or tick the
flash option<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When following the flash and html5
links I get an empty wondow<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">and when trying to create a new LO I
get an empty window with failed to create new template<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I ran upgrade.php but there doesn't
seem to be anything new in there?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">HTH<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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m 0cm
0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 13:10<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve just sent it on…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 12:29<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:windowtext">Didn't want to send It to the
list . Julian has it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ron
Mitchell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>>
schreef:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Happy to test and feedback but
where do I get the patch? 752 looks like Fay's update.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 11:08<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am
off-line the rest of the day. I'll send the patch to
Julian.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom Reijnders
schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an addition:<br>
<br>
Now you can just use play.php&template_id=4 (or
play_4). It will show :<br>
1. if the template_frame=xerte in the engine set by
the user<br>
2. if the template_frame is site using
modules/site/play.php<br>
<br>
Also, you can use
play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash or
play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript to
force a specific engine.<br>
<br>
Some is true for preview.<br>
<br>
You can also use engine=other (this is used by the
wizard when Ctlr+Play is pressed)<br>
<br>
I have to do the same for peer.php, but first would
like some feedback ;-)<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:38, Tom
Reijnders schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Almost
finished.<br>
<br>
I didn't change anything yet to modularize the
properties page<br>
<br>
- Changed play.php (root) and
modules/xerte/play.php and preview<br>
- Made play_html5.php (root) redirect to new play<br>
- Make use of the same template files as export
does for the play and preview<br>
- Make wizard toggle the engine on Ctrl-click<br>
- Move site to its own module dir<br>
- Changed basic.sql<br>
- updates upgrade.php<br>
<br>
Not thoroughly tested yet, not committed yet<br>
<br>
Patch is not attached but available. (from svn
752)<br>
<br>
It's about 2.2Mb<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Op 10-4-2013 23:39, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a>
schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for delay -
travelling home from a conference.... again<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The properties page is at
present not modular - as it is the same code
for each module. At present only Xerte Online
Toolkits modules will have more than one URL,
hence it needs some "Module" work.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think I could see a case
for giving XOT modules a new tab on properties
which is HTML access - beca use in theory some
of the projects are to become HTML5 projects.
This tab could explain the process and give
the preview and default setting options?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This way the main
properties tab with the links in could remain
as is (for now) and as the XOT stuff is
migrated then we could remove the tab<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">OR<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">You could modularise part
of the properties page and give each module a
URL _return function like what exists at
present<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I sort of prefer the top
version, but am not fussed<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-templatecanvas">https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-templatecanvas</a> exists
as well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Peer.php doesn't exist for
all projects, you can turn it on in the .info
file should you want too<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">REMEMBER<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">if you add a new module you
need to add the new language files as well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom how do you want to
divide the work on this? I don't feel it's
fair for you to do it all given how much I've
moaned about this :)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
Pgogy Webstuff <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Makers of Web things of a
fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:#E4E4E4"><b>From:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:#E4E4E4">"For Xerte
technical developers" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>To:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">"For Xerte technical
developers" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cc:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Sent:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:29:49
+0200<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">[Xerte-dev] Re:
Modules and htaccess<br>
<br>
<br>
There are some subtle differences:<br>
<br>
Yes, the user could delivery options in the
property page, but you need to realise that
the proerty page is also modular, the form is
generated from the modules/<framework>
php code. So... only xerte LO's would get that
option.<br>
<br>
And then the URLs that would be provided will
NOT be different, but the way the URL behaves,
i.e. in the module play.php the DB is inquired
to see which engine to use.<br>
<br>
I think that I go ahead and show you how
everything is pieces nicely together.<br>
<br>
As an example, your 'site' stuff needs to have
'site' (or whetever you want to call it) in
the originaltemplatesdetails table in the
'framework' column, and the play_site.php,
preview_site.php and perhaps export_site.php
should move to a f older modules/site and be
called play.php, preview.php and perhaps
export.php.<br>
<br>
Then you can use the regular 'root' play.php
and 'root' preview.php... and even peer.php<br>
<br>
Right Pat?<br>
<br>
I am working on it, and provide you with a
patch so you can test. Once you understand
what is reuired, it is rather straightforward.
<br>
<br>
If we're committing this, I'll will also write
an article of how this works.<br>
<br>
Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Op 10-4-2013 17:05,
Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'd
prefer to say, finish your stuff, then
I'll mangle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mangle
away… this obviously has links to the
propertie s panel and URLs for each piece
as we discussed earlier in the week. To
summarise the discussions, here’s where I
thought we’d got to:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
user would select the delivery option from
the properties panel;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Different
URLs would provide access to the content –
so the flash / html URLs would actually be
available<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Principle:
authors test and check rather than
auto-conversion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
setting in the properties panel would
drive the URLs in the various feeds etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Principle:
existing links continue to work <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="mson">Workaround: we can leave the
play_html5.php page in place as it’s not
only Ron who is already putting content
‘live’ this way<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
need to accommodate the site template as
well (which I’m going to have to rename
for political reasons here, otherwise
M&C will kill it. Learning Module?)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is
there anything else? If we have a good
list, we’ll only have to do the work once…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
Tom and Pat for picking this up,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Julian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.acuk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2013 12:13<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical
developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re:
Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
didn't make the changes last time (as
sorry to sound like a stuck record) as I
didn't think we'd agreed on it / added
it to the road map. So I didn't want to
waste a day of Fay's time in changing
stuff.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
felt xenith was important and so I
didn't want to screw it up with the
wrong sort of changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You
could place a header redirect in
playhtml5.php to redirect the URL to
another link, thus old links could be
maintained - albeit as a work round.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'd
prefer to say, finish your stuff, then
I'll mangle<br>
<br>
Pgogy Webstuff - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Makers
of web things of a fair to middling
quality<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>On
10 Apr 2013, at 11:24, Julian Tenney
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Is
there any way we can do both things,
i.e. leave the existing stuff in
place so things don’t break, but
build a new modular play engine that
handles the modular stuff much
better? When I put the site template
in it was obvious that it was a bit
of a pain, as you say having to add
new files to the root folder is bad
news, and having to modify other
files in the root folder is also not
so plug and play: there is specific
(if (thisSortOfTemplate) do this
else do that) code in ther e, which
shouldn’t be there really.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>We
wanted to put a new zip out on 26<sup>th</sup>
April, a tentative deadline. I don’t
mind waiting a few more weeks, but
we really need to get this out there
so that it can be installed in
places before the summer – so those
who want to build materials for next
year can use it over the summer. The
end of May would be about as far as
I’d want to wait I think.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>What
do others think?</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div
style="border:none;border-top:solid
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
On Behalf Of <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a><br>
Sent: 10 April 2013 11:19<br>
To: For Xerte technical
developers<br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re:
Modules and htaccess</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>True,
and happy to shut up</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>But
I first raised this in November - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html">http://listsnottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html</a> -
but it didn't go anywhere</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>-----
Original Message -----</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4"><b>From:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4"><b>"For
Xerte technical developers"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>To:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>"For
Xerte technical developers" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Cc:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Sent:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Wed,
10 Apr 2013 09:41:32 +0100</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Subject:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>[Xert
e-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<br>
<br>
<br>
Always we seem to hit something
fundamental right before we're due
to finish the work. There is a
degree of frustration here with
two things:<br>
<br>
- we have already worked through
this twice: Fay has worked through
it once with Pat to get the html5
links working, and I have worked
through it with Pat to get the
site template working. Now we want
to do it differently?<br>
- if you take pre-release code and
it changes, well, that's sometimes
life. Play_html5 was always
intended as a way of beta testing
the templates, rather than
anything else.<br>
<br>
At this stage of things, I think
we should go with what we have,
and Tom's database solution
solution, and get this phase of
work done, and then address it
later when we have a new cycle
underway. I appreciate the issues,
but there is no point in getting
hung about functionality that no
one is using yet (modularity), at
the expense of functionality that
everyone wants to use (htm l5
delivery). <br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
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On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>
Sent: 09 April 2013 18:15<br>
To: 'For Xerte technical
developers'<br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
and htaccess<br>
<br>
For me the basic principal must be
whatever we want to be defaults
for any new solution mustn't break
existing links or require people
to duplicate or re-write any code
to maintain that compatibility.
The vast majority will not have
the time, skills or inclination to
do that. So...<br>
<br>
/play.php?template_id=123 and
/play_123 including the embed code
links should continue to play
existing LO's via Flash likewise<br>
/play_html5.php?template_id=123
and /play_html5_123 should
continue to work even if that's no
longer the default for new html 5,
6 or 7 LO's.<br>
<br>
I can see the point about not
referring to html5 and keeping it
more future proofed and again I
can't see a problem with changes
like this or the new defaults
being
Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML
as long as existing links aren't
broken. But what would be the
Apache/htaccess version of that? <br>
<br>
Over time JISC Techdis and other
organisations and individuals have
shared many links to LO's they
have made public with the
community, with their learners,
with colleagues and this includes
sharing of the play_html5 links.
Rightly or wrongly that's what
we've had since the 1.8 release so
obviously we shouldn't break those
links if we can possibly avoid it.<br>
<br>
HTH<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Smith, John<br>
Sent: 09 April 2013 17:25<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
and htaccess<br>
<br>
Howdy<br>
<br>
I personally think you need to run
everything through the same page,
with parameters Its the only way
you can prevent worsening the
situation 12 months down the line
where we have many deployed play
urls which have to be maintained..
Plan to deprecate play_html5 and
then people can rewrite that page
to your main play.php page with
method=html or even duplicate the
main play.php file as play_html5
if they must.<br>
<br>
Begs the question - should we drop
references to html5 and just call
it html - what happens if they
release html6 in a few years?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
John Smith<br>
Learning Technologist<br>
School of Health and Life Sciences<br>
<br>
Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Pat @ Pgogy" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Could we use the following URL
structure?<br>
<br>
Can the play URL be<br>
<br>
Play.php?template_id=560<br>
And<br>
Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML<br>
<br>
And not playhtml.php?<br>
<br>
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<pre><b>Chopinlaan 27</b><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><b>Tel: 073 5226191</b><o:p></o:p></pre>
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