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Yes definitely. Added function upgrade_4()<br>
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Tom<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron Mitchell
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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the correct upgrade definitely in the patch?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
it was my applying of the patch didn't work because that's
not in the patched or exported code yet it is in basic.sql<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 14:33<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:windowtext">Strange.<br>
<br>
Upgrade should give you an extra column on templatedetails
called extra_flags.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ron
Mitchell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>>
schreef:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers got it!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure if anyone else has tried
this yet but not quite working for me...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Applied patch to local copy of svn
code<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Exported patched version<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Dropped over a localhost test install<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can see new options in the properties
panel e.g. what is the default engine to use for this
project with Javascript (a.k.a. HTML5) ticked<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But I can't untick that or tick the flash
option<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When following the flash and html5 links
I get an empty wondow<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">and when trying to create a new LO I get
an empty window with failed to create new template<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I ran upgrade.php but there doesn't seem
to be anything new in there?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">HTH<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 13:10<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve just sent it on…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 12:29<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:windowtext">Didn't want to send It to the
list . Julian has it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ron
Mitchell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk">ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk</a>>
schreef:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy to test and feedback but where
do I get the patch? 752 looks like Fay's update.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2013 11:08<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
htaccess<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am
off-line the rest of the day. I'll send the patch to
Julian.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom Reijnders
schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an addition:<br>
<br>
Now you can just use play.php&template_id=4 (or
play_4). It will show :<br>
1. if the template_frame=xerte in the engine set by
the user<br>
2. if the template_frame is site using
modules/site/play.php<br>
<br>
Also, you can use
play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash or
play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript to
force a specific engine.<br>
<br>
Some is true for preview.<br>
<br>
You can also use engine=other (this is used by the
wizard when Ctlr+Play is pressed)<br>
<br>
I have to do the same for peer.php, but first would
like some feedback ;-)<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 11-4-2013 11:38, Tom Reijnders
schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Almost
finished.<br>
<br>
I didn't change anything yet to modularize the
properties page<br>
<br>
- Changed play.php (root) and modules/xerte/play.php
and preview<br>
- Made play_html5.php (root) redirect to new play<br>
- Make use of the same template files as export does
for the play and preview<br>
- Make wizard toggle the engine on Ctrl-click<br>
- Move site to its own module dir<br>
- Changed basic.sql<br>
- updates upgrade.php<br>
<br>
Not thoroughly tested yet, not committed yet<br>
<br>
Patch is not attached but available. (from svn 752)<br>
<br>
It's about 2.2Mb<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 10-4-2013 23:39, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a>
schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for delay - travelling
home from a conference.... again<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The properties page is at
present not modular - as it is the same code for
each module. At present only Xerte Online
Toolkits modules will have more than one URL,
hence it needs some "Module" work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think I could see a case
for giving XOT modules a new tab on properties
which is HTML access - beca use in theory some
of the projects are to become HTML5 projects.
This tab could explain the process and give the
preview and default setting options?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This way the main properties
tab with the links in could remain as is (for
now) and as the XOT stuff is migrated then we
could remove the tab<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OR<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You could modularise part of
the properties page and give each module a URL
_return function like what exists at present<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I sort of prefer the top
version, but am not fussed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-templatecanvas">https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-templatecanvas</a> exists
as well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peer.php doesn't exist for
all projects, you can turn it on in the .info
file should you want too<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">REMEMBER<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">if you add a new module you
need to add the new language files as well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom how do you want to divide
the work on this? I don't feel it's fair for you
to do it all given how much I've moaned about
this :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
Pgogy Webstuff <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Makers of Web things of a
fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4">"For
Xerte technical developers" <a
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href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>To:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"For Xerte technical
developers" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Sent:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:29:49
+0200<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">[Xerte-dev]
Re: Modules and htaccess<br>
<br>
<br>
There are some subtle differences:<br>
<br>
Yes, the user could delivery options in the
property page, but you need to realise that the
proerty page is also modular, the form is
generated from the modules/<framework> php
code. So... only xerte LO's would get that
option.<br>
<br>
And then the URLs that would be provided will
NOT be different, but the way the URL behaves,
i.e. in the module play.php the DB is inquired
to see which engine to use.<br>
<br>
I think that I go ahead and show you how
everything is pieces nicely together.<br>
<br>
As an example, your 'site' stuff needs to have
'site' (or whetever you want to call it) in the
originaltemplatesdetails table in the
'framework' column, and the play_site.php,
preview_site.php and perhaps export_site.php
should move to a f older modules/site and be
called play.php, preview.php and perhaps
export.php.<br>
<br>
Then you can use the regular 'root' play.php and
'root' preview.php... and even peer.php<br>
<br>
Right Pat?<br>
<br>
I am working on it, and provide you with a patch
so you can test. Once you understand what is
reuired, it is rather straightforward. <br>
<br>
If we're committing this, I'll will also write
an article of how this works.<br>
<br>
Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Op 10-4-2013 17:05, Julian
Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'd
prefer to say, finish your stuff, then I'll
mangle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mangle
away… this obviously has links to the
propertie s panel and URLs for each piece as
we discussed earlier in the week. To
summarise the discussions, here’s where I
thought we’d got to:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
user would select the delivery option from
the properties panel;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Different
URLs would provide access to the content –
so the flash / html URLs would actually be
available<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Principle:
authors test and check rather than
auto-conversion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
setting in the properties panel would drive
the URLs in the various feeds etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Principle:
existing links continue to work <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="mson">Workaround: we can leave the
play_html5.php page in place as it’s not
only Ron who is already putting content
‘live’ this way<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
need to accommodate the site template as
well (which I’m going to have to rename for
political reasons here, otherwise M&C
will kill it. Learning Module?)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is
there anything else? If we have a good list,
we’ll only have to do the work once…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
Tom and Pat for picking this up,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Julian<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> <a
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href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2013 12:13<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical
developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re:
Modules and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
didn't make the changes last time (as
sorry to sound like a stuck record) as I
didn't think we'd agreed on it / added it
to the road map. So I didn't want to waste
a day of Fay's time in changing stuff.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
felt xenith was important and so I didn't
want to screw it up with the wrong sort of
changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You
could place a header redirect in
playhtml5.php to redirect the URL to
another link, thus old links could be
maintained - albeit as a work round.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'd
prefer to say, finish your stuff, then
I'll mangle<br>
<br>
Pgogy Webstuff - <a
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href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Makers
of web things of a fair to middling
quality<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>On
10 Apr 2013, at 11:24, Julian Tenney
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Is
there any way we can do both things,
i.e. leave the existing stuff in place
so things don’t break, but build a new
modular play engine that handles the
modular stuff much better? When I put
the site template in it was obvious
that it was a bit of a pain, as you
say having to add new files to the
root folder is bad news, and having to
modify other files in the root folder
is also not so plug and play: there is
specific (if (thisSortOfTemplate) do
this else do that) code in ther e,
which shouldn’t be there really.<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>We
wanted to put a new zip out on 26<sup>th</sup>
April, a tentative deadline. I don’t
mind waiting a few more weeks, but we
really need to get this out there so
that it can be installed in places
before the summer – so those who want
to build materials for next year can
use it over the summer. The end of May
would be about as far as I’d want to
wait I think.<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>What
do others think?<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From: <a
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href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Behalf Of <a
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href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a><br>
Sent: 10 April 2013 11:19<br>
To: For Xerte technical
developers<br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
and htaccess</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>True,
and happy to shut up<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>But
I first raised this in November - <a
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href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html">http://listsnottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html</a> -
but it didn't go anywhere<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>-----
Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4"><b>From:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:#E4E4E4"><b>"For
Xerte technical developers" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>To:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>"For
Xerte technical developers" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Cc:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Sent:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Wed,
10 Apr 2013 09:41:32 +0100<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Subject:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>[Xert
e-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess<br>
<br>
<br>
Always we seem to hit something
fundamental right before we're due
to finish the work. There is a
degree of frustration here with two
things:<br>
<br>
- we have already worked through
this twice: Fay has worked through
it once with Pat to get the html5
links working, and I have worked
through it with Pat to get the site
template working. Now we want to do
it differently?<br>
- if you take pre-release code and
it changes, well, that's sometimes
life. Play_html5 was always intended
as a way of beta testing the
templates, rather than anything
else.<br>
<br>
At this stage of things, I think we
should go with what we have, and
Tom's database solution solution,
and get this phase of work done, and
then address it later when we have a
new cycle underway. I appreciate the
issues, but there is no point in
getting hung about functionality
that no one is using yet
(modularity), at the expense of
functionality that everyone wants to
use (htm l5 delivery). <br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>
Sent: 09 April 2013 18:15<br>
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
htaccess<br>
<br>
For me the basic principal must be
whatever we want to be defaults for
any new solution mustn't break
existing links or require people to
duplicate or re-write any code to
maintain that compatibility. The
vast majority will not have the
time, skills or inclination to do
that. So...<br>
<br>
/play.php?template_id=123 and
/play_123 including the embed code
links should continue to play
existing LO's via Flash likewise<br>
/play_html5.php?template_id=123 and
/play_html5_123 should continue to
work even if that's no longer the
default for new html 5, 6 or 7 LO's.<br>
<br>
I can see the point about not
referring to html5 and keeping it
more future proofed and again I
can't see a problem with changes
like this or the new defaults being
Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML
as long as existing links aren't
broken. But what would be the
Apache/htaccess version of that? <br>
<br>
Over time JISC Techdis and other
organisations and individuals have
shared many links to LO's they have
made public with the community, with
their learners, with colleagues and
this includes sharing of the
play_html5 links. Rightly or wrongly
that's what we've had since the 1.8
release so obviously we shouldn't
break those links if we can possibly
avoid it.<br>
<br>
HTH<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Smith, John<br>
Sent: 09 April 2013 17:25<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
htaccess<br>
<br>
Howdy<br>
<br>
I personally think you need to run
everything through the same page,
with parameters Its the only way you
can prevent worsening the situation
12 months down the line where we
have many deployed play urls which
have to be maintained.. Plan to
deprecate play_html5 and then people
can rewrite that page to your main
play.php page with method=html or
even duplicate the main play.php
file as play_html5 if they must.<br>
<br>
Begs the question - should we drop
references to html5 and just call it
html - what happens if they release
html6 in a few years?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
John Smith<br>
Learning Technologist<br>
School of Health and Life Sciences<br>
<br>
Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Pat @ Pgogy" <<a
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href="mailto:xerte@pgogywebstuff.com">xerte@pgogywebstuff.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Could we use the following URL
structure?<br>
<br>
Can the play URL be<br>
<br>
Play.php?template_id=560<br>
And<br>
Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML<br>
<br>
And not playhtml.php?<br>
<br>
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<pre><b>--<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>Chopinlaan 27<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>5242HM Rosmalen<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>--<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<p><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<pre><b>Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>Chopinlaan 27<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>5242HM Rosmalen<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>Tel: 073 5226191<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<p><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<pre><b>Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>Chopinlaan<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>5242HM<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>Tel: 073 5226191<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>--<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<p><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<pre><b>Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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