<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Two works for play and peer, though someone will need to write peer html5 and so on</div><div><br></div><div>It won't work for rss, syndicate - and it messes with the API ideas</div><div><br></div><div>And a lot of other stuff - embed codes, links - will need to be duplicated and the difference explained?</div><div><br>On 4 Apr 2013, at 10:05, Fay Cross <<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Two. Unless that will cause problems?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 April 2013 09:24<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">So are we going with the two urls or the one URL approach?<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><br>On 28 Mar 2013, at 15:04, Tom Reijnders <<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl">reijnders@tor.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Op 28-3-2013 15:37, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brilliant. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">Exporting seems to cause people a lot of problems, but I guess they do seem to use it (rightly or wrongly). I’d prefer to have options to export the various types of zip for either html5 or flash, I think. I have no idea how hard this is to do? I’d love to drop this functionality because it just seems to cause a lot of unnecessary problems, I’m not sure people really need to export content as much as they do – but there are some valid reasons to do it, so I suppose we’re stuck with it. Tom adapted the original exporting code, would this be something that is easy for Tom to look at? Or reassure me that I can adapt your code easily to use different paths / folders etc?</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">I'll look into this. I need to anyways, because of SCORM.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">The play_html5_1234 is a good idea, yes, for consistency. On installs where this works, does the </span><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D">play_html5.php?template_id=</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> work as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">yes the other URL will work as well.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes, everything should default to the html5 output. Peer review needs a new URL as well. CTRL-Click can launch the flash version instead from the wizard. I’m not sure we need browser detection: people should use the URL they built it for; however, we should probably put something in place for older browsers to say ‘upgrade your browser’ or similar? I’m guessing the paths are easy to amend in the php?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">What else do we need to look at before we can release this? This morning we tentatively agreed to have it all ready for <b>FRIDAY 26<sup>th</sup> APRIL. </b>Do we need a list of open issues that need resolving before the release? I’m thinking of the Firefox security thing in particular, though it sounds like you’re getting close John? Also the thing with the buttons staying greyed out that appeared recently? If Tom’s SCORM work isn’t ready by then, I’m not sure it’s a big problem? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">No, I don't think SCORM is a show stopper (but I'll do my utmost!)<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve made a titanpad here for a list of things to do: <a href="http://titanpad.com/xottwopointoh">http://titanpad.com/xottwopointoh</a>. I want to concentrate on finishing existing work, rather than starting anything new just now, but please add any bugs to it as well, and we’ll fix as many as we can.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">An aside, is it worth starting to think about when / where we do another AGM? If we do it outside of teaching time, we can do it in rooms here at no cost. Maybe sometime in July? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m off next week, but will have some time after that to help out with getting this finished,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Julian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 March 2013 17:17<br><b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] HTML5</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hello all<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">As you should know the HTML5 work is nearly complete and there are only a couple of page types for me to complete before we can release a new version of Toolkits with the HTML5 interface as the default view. I have a few things that I could do with some help on before the release so if anyone can give me a hand with them or just give your opinions it would be much appreciated...<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Exporting HTML projects:<br>The files that would need to be in the zip would be more or less the same as for the Flash version but using the common_html5 and models_html5 folders instead of common/models.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Abbreviated link:<br>Possibly something Ron can help with as I’ve noticed it’s working on his install. Can abbreviated links be made to work e.g. <a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5_560">www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5_560</a> rather than using the full url?<br>(Apologies Pat, I think you partly answered this for me previously but I can’t find it)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Play / Preview links:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Links in project properties, preview button in workspace and preview in wizard need to be updated to go to the HTML5 version.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->In the wizard should Ctrl-Click bring up the Flash version when clicking normally is changed to HTML5?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Do you think there needs to be some browser detection that decides which version people see? The problem I can see with this is that if we start adding new features or pages to the HTML5 version then by sending them to the Flash version instead they may miss out on some content. Not many of the page types in the HTML5 version actually use HTML5 tags if that makes sense – probably just the handful where the canvas tag is used (textDrawing, charts etc.) so there might not be many instances where there will be problems if you’re on an older browser anyway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Page models:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->John – is the flickr page finished?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Johnathan – I’ve emailed you off list about a few queries I’ve got with the connector pages, I hope this is ok – I didn’t want to bother everyone else with them<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->SCORM – this isn’t working at the moment but I can’t quite remember what’s missing. I’ll email with more details of what help I might need when I’ve looked back at it<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Fay<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">Xerte-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">Tom Reijnders<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">TOR Informatica<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">Chopinlaan 27<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">5242HM Rosmalen<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">Tel: 073 5226191<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">Fax: 073 5226196<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></pre><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">_______________________________________________<br>Xerte-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Xerte-dev mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">Xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>