<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>So are we going with the two urls or the one URL approach?<br><br>Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><div>Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality</div></div><div><br>On 28 Mar 2013, at 15:04, Tom Reijnders <<a href="mailto:reijnders@tor.nl">reijnders@tor.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 28-3-2013 15:37, Julian Tenney
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brilliant. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Exporting seems
to cause people a lot of problems, but I guess they do seem
to use it (rightly or wrongly). I’d prefer to have options
to export the various types of zip for either html5 or
flash, I think. I have no idea how hard this is to do? I’d
love to drop this functionality because it just seems to
cause a lot of unnecessary problems, I’m not sure people
really need to export content as much as they do – but there
are some valid reasons to do it, so I suppose we’re stuck
with it. Tom adapted the original exporting code, would this
be something that is easy for Tom to look at? Or reassure me
that I can adapt your code easily to use different paths /
folders etc?</span></p>
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I'll look into this. I need to anyways, because of SCORM.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">The
play_html5_1234 is a good idea, yes, for consistency. On
installs where this works, does the </span><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D">play_html5.php?template_id=</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> work as well?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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yes the other URL will work as well.<br>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes, everything
should default to the html5 output. Peer review needs a new
URL as well. CTRL-Click can launch the flash version instead
from the wizard. I’m not sure we need browser detection:
people should use the URL they built it for; however, we
should probably put something in place for older browsers to
say ‘upgrade your browser’ or similar? I’m guessing the
paths are easy to amend in the php?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What else do we
need to look at before we can release this? This morning we
tentatively agreed to have it all ready for <b>FRIDAY 26<sup>th</sup>
APRIL. </b>Do we need a list of open issues that need
resolving before the release? I’m thinking of the Firefox
security thing in particular, though it sounds like you’re
getting close John? Also the thing with the buttons staying
greyed out that appeared recently? If Tom’s SCORM work isn’t
ready by then, I’m not sure it’s a big problem? </span></p>
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No, I don't think SCORM is a show stopper (but I'll do my utmost!)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve made a
titanpad here for a list of things to do: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://titanpad.com/xottwopointoh">http://titanpad.com/xottwopointoh</a>.
I want to concentrate on finishing existing work, rather
than starting anything new just now, but please add any bugs
to it as well, and we’ll fix as many as we can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">An aside, is it
worth starting to think about when / where we do another
AGM? If we do it outside of teaching time, we can do it in
rooms here at no cost. Maybe sometime in July? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m off next
week, but will have some time after that to help out with
getting this finished,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Fay Cross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 March 2013 17:17<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] HTML5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As you should know the HTML5 work is nearly
complete and there are only a couple of page types for me to
complete before we can release a new version of Toolkits with
the HTML5 interface as the default view. I have a few things
that I could do with some help on before the release so if
anyone can give me a hand with them or just give your opinions
it would be much appreciated...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Exporting HTML projects:<br>
The files that would need to be in the zip would be more or
less the same as for the Flash version but using the
common_html5 and models_html5 folders instead of
common/models.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Abbreviated link:<br>
Possibly something Ron can help with as I’ve noticed it’s
working on his install. Can abbreviated links be made to work
e.g. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5_560">www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5_560</a>
rather than using the full url?<br>
(Apologies Pat, I think you partly answered this for me
previously but I can’t find it)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Play / Preview links:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Links in project properties, preview button
in workspace and preview in wizard need to be updated to go to
the HTML5 version.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>In the wizard should Ctrl-Click bring up
the Flash version when clicking normally is changed to HTML5?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Do you think there needs to be some browser
detection that decides which version people see? The problem
I can see with this is that if we start adding new features or
pages to the HTML5 version then by sending them to the Flash
version instead they may miss out on some content. Not many
of the page types in the HTML5 version actually use HTML5 tags
if that makes sense – probably just the handful where the
canvas tag is used (textDrawing, charts etc.) so there might
not be many instances where there will be problems if you’re
on an older browser anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Page models:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>John – is the flickr page finished?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Johnathan – I’ve emailed you off list about
a few queries I’ve got with the connector pages, I hope this
is ok – I didn’t want to bother everyone else with them<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level2 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>SCORM – this isn’t working at the moment
but I can’t quite remember what’s missing. I’ll email with
more details of what help I might need when I’ve looked back
at it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fay<o:p></o:p></p>
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