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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Why not just append the language code to the URL (new website) and mod rewrite the url. If there is a language file that matches send that, otherwise send the
English one…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: use of info tag in xwd forms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What about languages? You might want help in several languages. But we can cope with multi lingual wizards, so why not multi lingual help?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The form is a bit of a pain because now we have advanced / language options, redrawing the form is a bit of a pain, so thinking differently might
be a good idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 March 2013 10:02<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: use of info tag in xwd forms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">What I would like to be able to achieve is a means of providing a link to a pdf file that the author can access to provide additional information to support the use of the page type. My original
need was to support the connector pages and the inventory page with more information about how the page worked and how, in the case of connector pages they could be used in conjunction with other pages. However the help file could provide other stuff such
as examples of use or pedagogical information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">How that link is made available to the author I don't have a strong view on. It just seemed that the <info> tag already provided the functionality (except for this frustrating glitch). If resolving
the glitch was a simple matter then the <info> tag might be a convenient way of doing this without involving much time input. If however the glitch is difficult to pin down then a different approach might be appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">By putting the link in the xwd file it keeps everything about the page in one place. However it does have the disadvantage of making it difficult to change the location of the help files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">Perhaps an approach that assumed the help file would use the same stem as the model file but have a pdf extension (e.g. quiz.rlm and quiz.pdf), would allow a Xerte or XOT project to define a single
folder location for all the help files. The specific help file for a page type would then be accessed by combining the single folder address with the model name and a pdf extension.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">This would allow help files to be either located on a remote server or on a local server, or even in a desktop Xerte installation folder e.g. Xerte\pages\help\. It would also make it easier to
change the locations of the help files as there would be only one path to change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">On 6 March 2013 07:50, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe we should tackle this differently: rather than trying to display the <info> on the form, why not pop it up in a message or show it somewhere else?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 March 2013 17:53<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: use of info tag in xwd forms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The most recent version of the desktop would ensure you have the latest version of wizard.swf, but if you can see the Show Language Options I think that should be enough to demonstrate the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The "here is the help" text is the text contained in the info tag.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you click in the Show Language Options check box you will see that some additional fields are displayed in the form but that there is an expanse of blank grey form before the "here is the help" text is displayed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you mouse over the grey area above the "here is the help" text you will see the mouse pointer change as it hovers over where the text entry boxes for the hidden language options are positioned.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you click on the Quiz2 page to open its xwd form the effect is clear as none of the fields are flagged as language options so as soon as the form opens you see that the display of labels and fields ends abruptly and then there is again
the grey expanse of blank form before the "here is the help" text is displayed. You have noticed, in your second post that the entry below "single answer wrong" is cut short vertically. There are also more fields below this which are not displaying at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you edit the quiz.xwd file in the page002 folder to remove the "info" tag then all the fields defined in the form are displayed correctly. So it is the "info" tag that is causing the display issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 5 March 2013 10:43, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">What version of desktop is required?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt">The only language related object I have showing is "Show Language Options" in the bottom bar.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">(I do see "Here is the help" in blue near the bottom).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:23:23 +0000<br>
From: <a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: use of info tag in xwd forms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you include the info tag in an xwd form it can result in the none display of the last entries in the form.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The info tag displays at the bottom of the form with a blank area of form above it where the missing fields and field labels should be displayed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">If you move the mouse pointer over the blank area of the form then the mouse pointer will change indicating that the fields are there - you just can't see them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">The easiest way to explain what is happening is for you to see it for yourself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I have attached a simple demo. The demo is a standard Xerte project (not a "Pages" type project - I have manually set up the xwd links for the pages) in which I have set up two copies of the Quiz page. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">1.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">Open this project in Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">2.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">Double click on the Quiz page to open the xwd form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">3.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">Click on the language tab to display the language fields<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">4.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">Scroll down the form - you will see the blank area where the hidden language fields should appear and the blue info comment at the bottom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">5.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">The language tag is not significant to this issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">6.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span lang="EN-GB">Double click on the Quiz2 page, you will see the same effect without the use of the language tag (I deleted them from this pages xwd file)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I don't know if the cause is to do with layers or visibility settings. I don't know what happens when the info tag is actioned in the code. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">I hope this makes the effect clear (if not the cause :-( )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On 5 March 2013 09:40, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What’s the problem in a nutshell?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 March 2013 22:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] use of info tag in xwd forms</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">On the 4th December I posted to the developer list an issue with the xwd forms relating to the use of the "info" tag.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">The inclusion of an info tag in the xwd form can result in space being allocated above the info tag for the display of the last few properties in the xwd form definition, but the properties are not visible in
the form. You can however confirm their "presence" as the mouse pointer responds to them if moved over the input fields. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">You can test this out in Xerte (or XOT) by creating a page using one of the Connector page types. The info tag has been used in these pages to link to a pdf help file that is hosted on the Xerte community web
site, but the "language" flagged form properties are no longer all editable, due to the presence of the info tag.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">This is a pity as the info tag could be used to provide a link to an external document that gives the Author useful additional information to assist them in making the best use of that page type. e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">Information about what the page is designed to do<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">Instructions on what the properties in the form are to help in completing the form created by the xwd file;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">examples of actual uses of that page type in real projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">examples of combining this page type with other page types to achieve a particular pedagogical approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">guidance as to how accessible the page is with respect to particular types of user, or what features the page has as optional properties to provide additional accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">However at present if the "info" tag is used then the ability to edit the language flagged elements of the page is compromised.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Is this something that is intended to be addressed before the next release of Xerte / XOT?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Sorry to be a nuisance, but it seems such a potentially useful feature it seems a shame not to be able to use it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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