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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Check lines 560-568 of the textDrawing.html model as I had to do similar to play nicely in IE. jQuery will quite happily turn text to XML for other browsers though…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> var xml;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> if (jQuery.browser.msie) { // Had to add this in to get IE to parse <shapes> correctly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> var xmlDoc = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM");<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 9:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">There’s some funky stuff with IE and ajax in jQuery when you set the dataType to ‘xml’. I did have it set to ‘text’, it’s a known thing and I’ll figure it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2013 16:14<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I updated a test install but then re-installed over the top so that your template installed in the database so at some point the relevant sql will need to be added to upgrade.php
but I'm sure you're aware of that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">On this test install when viewing properties of either a bootstrap project or an xot project only the flash play.php shows now in the properties window.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">play_bootstrap.php doesn't seem to play very nicely in IE whereas I'm sure
<a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/boostrapLO">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/boostrapLO</a> did but that's now showing as forbidden. play_bootstrap.php plays ok in Chrome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2013 11:48<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I got it working, you can check it out and do an xampp install for a quick preview of what’s there so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Few observations on hooking it up:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">- Ages ago, Pat, we talked about firing the data at an ad-hoc page – there is code in the wizard that posts it to wizard.runtime if set, so we did do it. Before I realised
this, I set a property called runtime and used it to point the preview to preview_bootstrap.php. I can’t remember if anyone is actually using .runtime to use a different playout or not (I have vague memories of GEM doing this for their PBL stuff?). I could
have just posted the data to a page, but then you lose all the security stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">- There is much the same code in the various play_, play_html5, play_bootstrap files that we ought to tidy up at some point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">- I’ve put my own set of .js libraries etc in the /common folder, so that duplicates some things like jQuery, so it would be better to load common libraries from a central
place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">- I have no idea how hard it is to get appropriate urls showing in the properties tab for the play_, export, etc and have all that working when the template isn’t Nottingham.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">- Otherwise it’s pretty straightforward to add new tools, especially if you can work with the xwd / wizard for an editor, and jQuery makes it really easy to pick up the
xml and drive the content. Once this penny drops I can see other people wanting to build their own templates and add them in, so it would be worth smoothing out some time. I can do that probably, but I’m not so sure what needs to be in place to make the properties
panel more flexible?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2013 09:15<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Preview and play differ in terms of logged in access and password protection - but the display code should be in a library function.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Agree your code base should be shared - wondering if modules could share that. In theory you could add a play parameter to the info file and then probably share the rest of the code?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">That might work better?<br>
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Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 8 Feb 2013, at 09:04, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Well, it’s more that we have the same code in several places, and things like being able to get the runtime url in the wizard. I added a property to the wizard ‘runtime’
to point to my booststrap.php page. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">A related question: is there anything different between preview and play, or could I just use the same file for both?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2013 17:51<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">I would assume we accordion the templates list?<br>
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Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span lang="EN-GB">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Yeah, that’s pretty much what I’m doing. It will work and that’s fine, just wondering about the situation where there loads of these things…</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat @ Pgogy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2013 15:47<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modular Play and New Templates</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Duplicate the modules xerte folder into modules new template name<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Keep the edit php file as it is still xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Mangle play and preview to present the HTML<br>
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Pgogy Webstuff - <a href="http://www.pgogywebstuff.com">http://www.pgogywebstuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 7 Feb 2013, at 09:46, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Question for Pat I think:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">With the html5 playout, Fay has added play_html5.php that does the work, that’s all fine. I’ve got a new template I’d like to build in that produces this stuff:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/boostrapLO">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/boostrapLO</a>. The editor is a standard xerte wizard / xwd thing, but it uses its own html page to
parse the xml and create the content.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">So I could add another html page to the folder and repeat what Fay has done for html5, but that seems a bit messy to sustain if, one day, we have loads of runtimes doing different things, I wondered
if your modular stuff handled this in a more graceful way?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">There’s another difference here: Fay’s html5 code plays existing content – so you have two alternative urls for the same piece, ultimately we’ll switch toolkits to use the html5 one as the default,
and the old one will remain as a legacy. In my case, it doesn’t work like that, these projects will always only use their html page: so that needs to be the url to display in properties for the project, and I guess that’s what needs to export as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">What do you think is the best thing to do?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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