<div dir="ltr">My mind says for bulk data entry I'd prefer a CSV ingestor rather than pasting in the data to a XOT form?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Smith, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk" target="_blank">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Totally agree… would anyone go to the bother of creating this in Flash (even if it is possible) now though since we are moving towards HTML5 deployment and
ultimately an HTML5 editor…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m not so familiar with the hooks used in the current editor for opening for example the drawing window but could someone look into the feasibility of making
a similar link open a plain webpage and what information (and how) it would need to pass back to the flash editor for now? That way we could add in these types js/jQuery applications that could do this…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Does that make sense?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="im">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John Smith<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Learning Technologist<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">School of Health & Life Sciences<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Glasgow Caledonian University<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 04, 2013 3:14 PM</span></p><div class="im"><br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Graphs and pies in 1.9<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">A visualisation editor would have tonnes of potential, or a CSV upload to pretty maker<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Smith, John <<a href="mailto:J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk" target="_blank">J.J.Smith@gcu.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">D3 looks pretty straightforward; very similar to jQuery, but a lot more powerful than we need. If
we migrate the editor over to HTML5 though this year then it would give us instant support for many more chart types…</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For the current chart model I simply ported the flash code over just now to get the chart working
in most browsers although IE8 and below will always be a problem. Even D3 won’t work properly in IE8 without using the AIGHT library to shim IE8 up to bare minimum of HTML5 compatibility… It might be worth looking into adding in AIGHT anyway as I have already
had to add in several bits of alternative code targeted at IE browsers only… </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John Smith</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Learning Technologist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">School of Health & Life Sciences</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Glasgow Caledonian University</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 04, 2013 2:44 PM</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cc:</b> John Horton<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Graphs and pies in 1.9<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">D3 is complicated as anything early on, but once you get the logic it makes sense (a little)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Fay Cross <<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">John Horton’s also been looking into a few other javascript libraries for drawing graphs
as he’s done quite complicated ones in Flash which need looking at again. I’ll pass the link onto him.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">(it was John Smith on the list who did the page model btw not the John here)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 January 2013 14:32</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"> [Xerte-dev] Re: Graphs and pies in 1.9</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Ah ok, I have been experimenting with D3 (<a href="http://d3js.org/" target="_blank">http://d3js.org/</a>) and feel relatively confident I can make it draw basic graphs, wondered if that'd be useful</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Nothing as complicated as that page shows though</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Fay Cross <<a href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">John wrote the new page model – I think he used jQuery and drew the shapes on a canvas.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-GB">We were going to look into whether there was something else we could use for more complicated graphs but what he did works well for the simple ones used on the charts
page</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 January 2013 14:26<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Graphs and pies in 1.9</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Hello,<br>
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In 1.9 what draws the graphs and pie charts?<br>
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Pat</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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